Speaker 1: Welcome to season two of Unsigned and Independent. We have
Speaker 1: another episode and another season of this and Kevin kind
Speaker 1: of restate your goal for why you started this show.
Speaker 1: So the goal was when I first came into Nashville,
Speaker 1: I saw these bands, artists that I thought were really good,
Speaker 1: and I didn't understand why I've never heard of this
Speaker 1: person or this group, and I wanted to get them
Speaker 1: on to talk about, you know, the late nights of Broadway.
Speaker 1: I'm playing late, getting up early, and just the whole
Speaker 1: grind of the industry without the backing of a label
Speaker 1: or a record company, or a management team or which
Speaker 1: all the things I hope to get right and want
Speaker 1: to be coolest to see some of these some of
Speaker 1: these folks develop into signed and not independent exactly because
Speaker 1: when we started the Bobbycast a long time ago, that
Speaker 1: was a deal. We had a lot of artists on
Speaker 1: and songwriters that later became stars I met. I think
Speaker 1: about Ryan Hurd, who was just a songwriter. We talked
Speaker 1: to him, is all right, new guy heard? You know,
Speaker 1: he would talk about how hard it was to write
Speaker 1: songs get a publishing deal. But this is what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Even a step farther back, it's like a prequel. He
Speaker 1: had an early Bobby cast. And so who'd you talk
Speaker 1: with this time? This is Tara Fister. Why Tara? Because
Speaker 1: I met her through somebody I had on the first
Speaker 1: season last year. Actually his name is Graham, and he
Speaker 1: kind of told me about her, introduced me to her,
Speaker 1: came across her stuff, and she had this presence about her,
Speaker 1: has this presence about her. She's got bright hair, bright clothes, tattoos,
Speaker 1: she's got this presence on stage where just like, I
Speaker 1: need to know more about this girl. She good live, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's great. So you talk with her. She's from Saint Louis,
Speaker 1: she's been here for ten years or so. Does she
Speaker 1: have the frustration of, hey, why hasn't this happened for
Speaker 1: me yet? No? She has such a good outlook on
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna do what I need to do
Speaker 1: and everything else would kind of take care of itself.
Speaker 1: She's had her frustrated days or her weeks, you know,
Speaker 1: taking care of everything, funding everything, managing everything, but overall
Speaker 1: she's got a good outlook on the bigger picture. All right.
Speaker 1: Here we go, Unsigned and Independent with Kevin O'Connell aka
Speaker 1: kick Off Kevin. Here is Tara Fister here on the
Speaker 1: Bobby Cast in a special edition? By the way, is
Speaker 1: this a new season? Yes? Oh I did Music to
Speaker 1: My Ears season two, episode one of Unsigned and Independent.
Speaker 1: Hey Tara, good to see you, Good to have you
Speaker 1: in here. How long has it been since you moved
Speaker 1: to Nashville. It'll be ten years this July, I believe. Wow, Yeah, Forest,
Speaker 1: I moved down. Okay, I like literally pulled into town
Speaker 1: as a fireworks are going off. Really yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: a little it's a cute old story. That's awesome. I
Speaker 1: saw the fireworks show here a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: and it's probably the best I've ever seen. Yeah, as
Speaker 1: long as the smoke doesn't blur it out right? Yea,
Speaker 1: that is true. What was your mindset coming in from
Speaker 1: Saint Louis to Nashville? Where you like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I want to be all over the radio. I want to,
Speaker 1: you know, sign with this purse or this label and
Speaker 1: do this and this or was it kind of just
Speaker 1: a freelancing let's see what happens, let's move and just
Speaker 1: chase a dream here. Yeah, well I had. I had
Speaker 1: just turned twenty one. I worked at a Ford dealership, okay,
Speaker 1: And I was coming to Nashville about once a month
Speaker 1: to do a writer's round and try to create some
Speaker 1: type of circle or community or just you know, get
Speaker 1: my feet wet. And one night after a writer's round,
Speaker 1: I was hanging out with a group of friends and
Speaker 1: we were going to the Preds game. So we were
Speaker 1: standing in Rippy's and just standing there, you know, taking
Speaker 1: in the scene, and a guy on stage whose name
Speaker 1: was Greg Humphrey. He just pointed me out in the
Speaker 1: crowd and he was like, you're a singer. And at
Speaker 1: that time I had had enough beverages where I was like,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, I'm a singer. And he got me on
Speaker 1: stage and I sang a couple of songs and he
Speaker 1: through the tip jog at me and he was like,
Speaker 1: if you can come back with this tip jugful, I'll
Speaker 1: have a job for you. I was like deal. So
Speaker 1: I ran the tip jar and I came back and
Speaker 1: I gave him my card and he called me. Two
Speaker 1: weeks later. I went to the game, went back to
Speaker 1: Saint Louis, you know, went about my life, and he
Speaker 1: called me about two weeks later and he was like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing for cmafest And I was like,
Speaker 1: whatever you tell me, I'm doing. So he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: why don't you come down you can play with my band,
Speaker 1: blahlah blah. So I came down two weeks later, played
Speaker 1: with this band, went back home, and then he called
Speaker 1: me again about two weeks later and said, if you
Speaker 1: want to move, you have a job. Wow. So I
Speaker 1: packed up everything, which was like a bag of shoes,
Speaker 1: a bag of clothes, my guitar, a microphone in my
Speaker 1: car and moved like a week later and slept on
Speaker 1: one of my girlfriend's couches for a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: and then segued into somebody's apartment that the roommate situation
Speaker 1: didn't work out, and then into a house. And here
Speaker 1: I am ten years later. Do you like the idea
Speaker 1: that it was just so sudden and like you had
Speaker 1: to make a decision right then and there, almost as
Speaker 1: if you didn't have to maybe build up too and
Speaker 1: think about it too much, or just like, you know what,
Speaker 1: why not, let's do it? Well, to be if I
Speaker 1: was being honest with myself, I would say that I
Speaker 1: always knew, even when I was aty biddy, like when
Speaker 1: people would ask me when I was little, you know,
Speaker 1: what do you want to do? I would always answer,
Speaker 1: I want to be the girl in music videos, and
Speaker 1: I meant the singer, like, you know, the not the
Speaker 1: main character, but me watching like rebuff on the TV
Speaker 1: or whatever. Okay, I want to be the girl in
Speaker 1: music videos. And so I think there was no really
Speaker 1: thinking having to be done. I've always known in my
Speaker 1: core that no matter what I was doing, it would
Speaker 1: be revolved around music. What surprises me the most about
Speaker 1: it is my parents just looked at me and you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: see you later. I was that. When I think about it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh. I was so naive. I
Speaker 1: had never lived out in my house. I had never
Speaker 1: paid bills, Like even when I was in college, I
Speaker 1: was going to a university right on the road, so
Speaker 1: I had lived with my parents. Like there was never
Speaker 1: any I just looked at my parents, was like, I
Speaker 1: think when we move Nashville. My mom was like, great,
Speaker 1: we'll see you later. Like, oh, okay, bye. Were you
Speaker 1: did you think she might have be a little reluctant
Speaker 1: to it, either of your parents like, oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: this is such a good idea. You don't know if
Speaker 1: you're gonna really make it or are they always been
Speaker 1: that supportive? They've always been really supportive. I was. I'd
Speaker 1: like to think that I was always pretty straightforward with
Speaker 1: them too. I wasn't a big head like. I wasn't
Speaker 1: a you know, I wasn't sneaking out and lying and
Speaker 1: do whatever. So and they've known, you know, my first
Speaker 1: job was working in a music store, and I started
Speaker 1: taking piano lessons when I was itty bitty and took
Speaker 1: every lesson you can think of from there on out,
Speaker 1: and it just I think it was a very natural
Speaker 1: segue into where I am at now. Was music always
Speaker 1: a big thing for you? Yes, it's um a little
Speaker 1: bit of everything. So I have a My dad is
Speaker 1: one of six and all of his all of his sisters.
Speaker 1: He's there's three boys and three girls, all of them saying.
Speaker 1: My grandma plays killer piano. I just have vivid memories
Speaker 1: of show tunes when dinner was over in washing dishes,
Speaker 1: and all of my aunts would split into harmonies and
Speaker 1: sing Oklahoma or Carousel or whatever was in their mind
Speaker 1: that day. UM so kind of started there, and I
Speaker 1: just my mom always joked about that, I kind of
Speaker 1: came out singing my brother was in theater. My sister
Speaker 1: was a big rockhead. My dad loved the rat Pack,
Speaker 1: my mom was into country so and I was the youngest.
Speaker 1: So I was just kind of a little a little
Speaker 1: melting pot. Oh wow, okay, yeah, youngest, just a brother
Speaker 1: and a sister. Okay, so youngest of three? Are you
Speaker 1: the only artist in the I guess you guys all
Speaker 1: have some musical talent involved. My brother does. So it's
Speaker 1: my sister Lee, my brother Stephen, and myself, and I'm
Speaker 1: Stephen is a theater kid, so he did it, you know,
Speaker 1: an adult as well. And he's phenomenal. He's one of
Speaker 1: those guys that, like, they always told him that his
Speaker 1: biggest challenge and I would be deciding if he wants
Speaker 1: to build and paint the stage or be on it. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he can do anything. Wow. That's awesome. So you're not
Speaker 1: the most talented in the family, or are you equally talented?
Speaker 1: I'd like to say equally talented, different tastes. It's like
Speaker 1: apples and oranges. You know, we're still we're still the
Speaker 1: same things. You mentioned Reebo. You'd watch her on TV
Speaker 1: growing up. Who are some of your other idols or musicians?
Speaker 1: Bands that you looked up to and maybe still look
Speaker 1: up to well when I was little. It's interesting I
Speaker 1: was kind of forced. Sounds harsh, but it wasn't harsh.
Speaker 1: I just I wasn't allowed to watch MTV, so really
Speaker 1: the only thing I could watch was CMT that had
Speaker 1: music involved, you know. So, um, Lean Walmock was huge
Speaker 1: for me. Leon Womack was kind of my like my lady.
Speaker 1: She's still my lady crush, but at this point in
Speaker 1: my life, I think someone who has a huge phone
Speaker 1: over me. I love the Food Fighters, I love Billy
Speaker 1: Joel Um. Those two are kind of my main like
Speaker 1: they can and honestly, I'm am a pretty huge John
Speaker 1: Mayer fan. And I know people can talk all sorts
Speaker 1: of smack, but I really do enjoy his guitar playing
Speaker 1: like I just love his tone. Anything he does, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm there, I'm right there with you. He has an
Speaker 1: album that kind of changed the way that I started
Speaker 1: playing that I started singing um just listening to him
Speaker 1: The Search for Everything, and I had to still feel
Speaker 1: like a man. Um. I love that whole album, so
Speaker 1: that's awesome. I've never seen him. I would love to
Speaker 1: see him he's fantastic. He really is. My friend. Garrett
Speaker 1: and I went Garrett throwing. He's a fellow artist as well,
Speaker 1: um Wisconsin guy. But we made the agreement going in.
Speaker 1: I was like, neither of us is going to talk
Speaker 1: like at all, and he was like, I agree. So
Speaker 1: we literally just went in there and like stood next
Speaker 1: to each other and just like consumed the entire show
Speaker 1: in silence. It was great and soaked at all and
Speaker 1: stoked at all. I mean, yeah, that's a great idea.
Speaker 1: I don't think you've ever even thought about doing something
Speaker 1: like that. But it's almost like one of these we're like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to live in the moment
Speaker 1: right now, right here. I don't want to talk to you.
Speaker 1: I don't, Yeah, I just want to act like I'm
Speaker 1: sitting in my car listening to them by myself or
Speaker 1: something like that. Well, and I've learned that the older
Speaker 1: I get and the more I can kind of like
Speaker 1: sit and reflect on myself and who I am and
Speaker 1: how I've grown, I've noticed that I just I really
Speaker 1: cannot concentrate if there's music in the room, Like if
Speaker 1: there's music going on, if it's if even if it's
Speaker 1: a bar downtown and people are trying to talk or
Speaker 1: have conversations and you know, mingle my brain. I'm just
Speaker 1: watching the music. I'm just I'm like, you know. So
Speaker 1: it's nice to have concert buddies that kind of have
Speaker 1: the same mindset. You just go in. They're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're both going to thoroughly enjoy this standing next to
Speaker 1: each other, and that's it. And as an arty talk later,
Speaker 1: are you, like, are you watching or listening? I should say,
Speaker 1: more than anything listening and thinking? Are you are you
Speaker 1: hearing everything going on? Like you're not just hearing a song?
Speaker 1: If that makes sense? Are you kind of breaking it
Speaker 1: down in your head? Oh yeah, I think yeah, because
Speaker 1: you have an ear for it and you're in it
Speaker 1: like I'm not. I don't play any I'm not musically
Speaker 1: talented at all. Yeah, so I wouldn't understand like I
Speaker 1: would some other things like you would with it. So
Speaker 1: it's just interesting to me. If you sit there and
Speaker 1: listen to it, you're probably listening to a whole different
Speaker 1: sound then say, I would be, Um, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's a fair statement. But I also think, you know,
Speaker 1: with this being what I do, it's also nice to
Speaker 1: watch other people, you know, even the visuals. You look
Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, well, you know, like how am
Speaker 1: I consuming this? Like well, obviously like auditorian visual, So
Speaker 1: how would I've done that? Would I have put that
Speaker 1: piano there? Would I have set the stage that way?
Speaker 1: Would I have these lights at this time? Was that
Speaker 1: confetti on point? You know? Like whatever it is you're doing,
Speaker 1: big or small, I just like to like research how
Speaker 1: other people present their passion. Do you find yourself It's
Speaker 1: funny and bring that up because I'll do that with
Speaker 1: like TV shows or radio shows, you know, working in
Speaker 1: the industry, and I'll be like, well, where is the producer?
Speaker 1: Why isn't he telling this person to do this or whatever?
Speaker 1: That with movies all the time, now I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: look at this shot. I'm like, no, Tara, I get
Speaker 1: consumed exactly. You're not enjoying the movie now, you're just
Speaker 1: looking at the background. So that's what I was going
Speaker 1: to ask. Can you do you think it like kind
Speaker 1: of hinders your enjoyment of a show or no? Is
Speaker 1: it more of an art to you that you're just
Speaker 1: trying to figure out your mind? I think it's more
Speaker 1: of an art, and I think something else. So I've
Speaker 1: made my New Year's resolution was to see one show
Speaker 1: a month, because I think when you're a creator, when
Speaker 1: you're making music constantly, you forget to go get it,
Speaker 1: like you forget to go get it in your in
Speaker 1: your blood again, and you kind of forget, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I've got to play that night, Like
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go see this show, you know,
Speaker 1: But every time I leave a concert, I'm always so
Speaker 1: happy I did that. I'm always like, oh man, I
Speaker 1: needed that. Like I think as an artist, you forget,
Speaker 1: you know, you're like giving, giving, giving, but you forget
Speaker 1: that when you go to the concert that artist is
Speaker 1: giving to you, like you fill your cut back up,
Speaker 1: and you forget that you can do that at concerts,
Speaker 1: even in small venues. You know, there's so many great
Speaker 1: stages in Nashville that are itty bitty that you can
Speaker 1: just go and you're like, oh man, I didn't even
Speaker 1: know I needed that. You just walk out of there
Speaker 1: going like I feel different than I did walking in.
Speaker 1: You have a very profound look to you where it's
Speaker 1: like you walk in and you have this bright hair
Speaker 1: and these tattoos and a lot of your outfits are
Speaker 1: very bright and colorful. Yeah, And is that something that
Speaker 1: you have always done throughout your life? Like growing up
Speaker 1: as a teenager, did you always have different How many
Speaker 1: hair color shade have you had? Do you think probably
Speaker 1: most of them? Is that something that you dive into
Speaker 1: and you just really enjoy just bringing out your personality
Speaker 1: with it, whether it's your tattoos or your outfits or
Speaker 1: your hair because I love it. I mean you walk
Speaker 1: in and you just scream confidence. Oh yeah, so it
Speaker 1: just that's what Okay, So maybe it's just a front
Speaker 1: and then no, I think with each passing year, I
Speaker 1: definitely settle more and more into it. I think it's
Speaker 1: who I've always been. I think as a teenager, you
Speaker 1: know you're always you don't really I don't think majority
Speaker 1: of us know exactly who we are as teenagers. We
Speaker 1: have a vague outline, right, yes, but m yeah, No,
Speaker 1: the colors have always been part of me. I enjoy colors.
Speaker 1: I don't have. I like a nice solid black dress
Speaker 1: every once in a while, but other than matt, I'm
Speaker 1: whatever catches my eye that day is going on. So
Speaker 1: and a lot of times I don't think they really
Speaker 1: make a whole lot of sense, but my friends tell
Speaker 1: me I look cool, So that's great. Thanks. Since you
Speaker 1: moved to Nashville and you started playing music right away,
Speaker 1: has this always been your source of income for you?
Speaker 1: Or have you had to have multiple jobs at some points? Like?
Speaker 1: What's that been like for you? Um, there was about
Speaker 1: a year where I bartended, but um, that was mostly
Speaker 1: because I wanted to bartend. I'd never bartended before and
Speaker 1: I just woke up and was like, I want to
Speaker 1: dry bartending one day. So I did that for about
Speaker 1: a year and um no, But other than that, IVE
Speaker 1: always been music full time since I was twenty one. Okay,
Speaker 1: do you think that's pretty rare for you too? Because
Speaker 1: I talk to some people and they'll be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've had to serve for a year, like had to
Speaker 1: serve or had to barten, or had to do another
Speaker 1: job during the day and then perform at night. So
Speaker 1: do you find yourself pretty lucky are you? Or do
Speaker 1: you find other people as well who can come here
Speaker 1: and make a living just doing music from the get go?
Speaker 1: I think it really depends on your personality. Depends on
Speaker 1: your personality and your work ethic, and you're honestly your
Speaker 1: ability to live at a lower income at moments in
Speaker 1: your life, like if you have the ability to go like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well you know my bank account is has four dollars
Speaker 1: in it, but I know I'm going to work tonight,
Speaker 1: and I know I'm working this weekend, and so I
Speaker 1: just have to make four dollars. I have to not
Speaker 1: freak out at having four dollars. If you can have
Speaker 1: the wherewithal to just like chill yourself out, you'll be fine.
Speaker 1: I've always eaten. My dad has a great saying of
Speaker 1: like what did He always used to tell some real
Speaker 1: It was something along the lines of like you may
Speaker 1: never have excess, but somehow you will always have enough.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's like a blind faith
Speaker 1: thing or if it's just like a you know, you
Speaker 1: get what you put out. But I have always had enough,
Speaker 1: and there's been moments of like, you know, holy that
Speaker 1: was a big paycheck. So I'd like more of those.
Speaker 1: Anybody's listening, Yeah, Universe, if you're out there, I'd like
Speaker 1: some more of those places. If you get into existence, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm here, show me which door to walk through when
Speaker 1: you hit those low moments, whether it's monetarily or professionally.
Speaker 1: Have you had a moment where you're like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if this is what I want to do anymore? No,
Speaker 1: you've never gotten there. No, I've had moments of like,
Speaker 1: I may have moments of going like, man, what am
Speaker 1: I doing with my life? But it always resolves to
Speaker 1: exactly what you're supposed to be doing, and it's just
Speaker 1: not easy. So you're gonna be uncomfortable. You are human,
Speaker 1: You're gonna be uncomfortable. You're gonna have self doubt, You're
Speaker 1: going to compare yourself set time, you know, to those
Speaker 1: around you and wonder why you didn't get that call
Speaker 1: or you know, oh my gosh, there's so much you know,
Speaker 1: thinking someone's better than you are, but no one can
Speaker 1: do it like I can do it, and I can't
Speaker 1: do it like they can do it. Do you play
Speaker 1: downtown a lot or no? Um, I played down there
Speaker 1: when I'm in town like Monday through Wednesday, and then
Speaker 1: you're traveling on the weekend. Traveling on the weekends, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you are? You like on tour right now or you
Speaker 1: I did a little tour last year. As of right now,
Speaker 1: my next thing I think is in Uh, I'm going
Speaker 1: to Oregon I haven't done like a tour, like a
Speaker 1: drive by drive mine or more like flight dates. I
Speaker 1: guess you'd say, are you filling in kind of thing
Speaker 1: or is it like a band that you're with. It's
Speaker 1: kind of about half and half. Okay, so half of
Speaker 1: them will be acoustic dates and half of them will
Speaker 1: be band dates. Okay, yeah, okay, you got a pretty
Speaker 1: busy year coming up, or I hope. So, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: I've got a couple of dates I'm supposed to be playing,
Speaker 1: and I think it's October. I'm going over to Switzerland
Speaker 1: to play a festivals called Bottom Part, so that'll be
Speaker 1: I'm excited for that one. They have like a ten
Speaker 1: day festival where the whole city shuts down, and I've
Speaker 1: been over there a couple of times, I think three
Speaker 1: or four times now, So shout out to Bottom Switzerland,
Speaker 1: high guys looking forward to that. Do you pay for
Speaker 1: all this out of pocket? Everything I've ever done is
Speaker 1: out of my own pocket? What's that like for you?
Speaker 1: Trying to You're booking your own stuff, You're paying your
Speaker 1: your your own everything, right, correct, So what is that
Speaker 1: entail overwhelming for you? There are moments where, especially last
Speaker 1: year and I feel going into this year where I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I understand why this takes a team, because sometimes I
Speaker 1: just kind of look around. I'm like, ah, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of things I need to do right now. But
Speaker 1: I think it's also I'm I'm grateful for it now
Speaker 1: because I think when the time comes that I'm able
Speaker 1: to afford to have that team, I will be understanding
Speaker 1: of their situations. You know, it won't be so expected.
Speaker 1: It'll be more like a, Okay, it happens that, Yeah
Speaker 1: that was weird. Let's you know, segue this way or
Speaker 1: whatever we have to do. And it's allowed me to
Speaker 1: just learn the business, you know five Like what do
Speaker 1: they call it? Baptism by fire? So um, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: an interesting perspective. So if anything goes wrong in the
Speaker 1: future and you have a team, you're like, well, I've
Speaker 1: been there, I understand. Here's how we can either fix it,
Speaker 1: or you can understand and not just yell at them
Speaker 1: right within reason, or I have my feelings hurt or
Speaker 1: be frustrated. You know, it's like frustration can only get
Speaker 1: you so far, and then it's like you just have
Speaker 1: to do something about it, you know, right, right, So
Speaker 1: but it's so the last two years I've been in
Speaker 1: the studio making my second album, and everything I have
Speaker 1: has been put into this album, financially, emotionally, musically, anything, sonically, whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, everything I have has gone into this album.
Speaker 1: And just within this past month are they like cherry
Speaker 1: on top being sent to mix master. And it's been
Speaker 1: such an enjoyable process. And you know, the creating part
Speaker 1: is always the fun part is always the that's you know,
Speaker 1: why I'm here. It's like why the souls in this
Speaker 1: body doing what I'm doing. But now it's coming down
Speaker 1: to the business part where I'm going to have to
Speaker 1: present this to investor or you know, shot myself around
Speaker 1: whatever it is. And I have my ideas of how
Speaker 1: I want to do it in but I'm looking now
Speaker 1: for those people to help me execute, and I am
Speaker 1: I'm just really excited to see what happens. Do you
Speaker 1: have a date set or a time frame set for
Speaker 1: the launch? I mean, honestly, you're promoted here. What's the
Speaker 1: album called? What do you think? In the mic? Is
Speaker 1: all your floors all yours? Oh? Well, thank you? I'm
Speaker 1: going to So I've got ten songs. I'm going to
Speaker 1: release them single for single to get my wear and
Speaker 1: tear out of it. But I've also told myself with
Speaker 1: this project because my first experience recording my first album,
Speaker 1: I was so like deadline, deadline, deadline, which I was
Speaker 1: only doing to myself. Nobody was doing this to me.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna like, no, I want it by
Speaker 1: this time. I want to do it, dear. And and
Speaker 1: I've learned that listening back to those songs, I'm like,
Speaker 1: those things that bothered me. Even though I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal, I was like, they still
Speaker 1: bother me. Till this day. I listened to those songs
Speaker 1: and all I hear are the parts that bother me.
Speaker 1: So I've told myself that I'm allowing myself to take
Speaker 1: as much time as this is where I know that
Speaker 1: it is exactly what I want. And although it's more
Speaker 1: money and it's more time and it's time's not real, right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Clocks are made up. This is
Speaker 1: actually a time podcast. Yeah. So yeah, I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: trying to allow myself grace and like, let my OCD
Speaker 1: just rest for a second anytime. I'm like, I want
Speaker 1: to now. And the guy that I'm working with my
Speaker 1: He's one of my very good friends. His name is Jaycott's.
Speaker 1: He plays bass for Randy Houser. He's helped me produce
Speaker 1: this whole thing. And he's always like, hey, remember, you've
Speaker 1: got to like, I know you want to do it.
Speaker 1: I know you want to I know we want to
Speaker 1: push this forward. He's like, but let's live with it,
Speaker 1: give it a couple of days, let your ears come
Speaker 1: in and out of it, and let's see how we
Speaker 1: attack it from here. And he's always right, I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: let's you know, like, I think this is great, let's
Speaker 1: move where. He's like, just give it a couple of days.
Speaker 1: You know. You're like, and I'm so grateful for him
Speaker 1: talking me off the ledge all the time. It's hard
Speaker 1: to be patient though. It's like that old saying where
Speaker 1: if you go buy a car or a house or something,
Speaker 1: the first one you look like like, oh I love this,
Speaker 1: I want to get this, and you're like, well, no,
Speaker 1: let's look at a couple of other ones for yeah,
Speaker 1: and if you still like that one, then we'll come
Speaker 1: back to that one, right. Yeah. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: that same mentality where you're like, you can't just jump
Speaker 1: on something and then just get it out there or
Speaker 1: buy it, purchase it and then be like, well, I
Speaker 1: probably should have thought about this little hard Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that previous album you're talking about is your self titled
Speaker 1: debut album? Correct? It was? Yeah, twenty nine years of learning.
Speaker 1: That's just how I described it, Okay. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: just self titled. I was Tarilyn Pisto. Okay, And that's
Speaker 1: that pretty much self explanatory. Twenty nine years of learning
Speaker 1: and stuff you learned over the years, and yeah, have
Speaker 1: a lot of fun and a lot of it was
Speaker 1: just that was kind of a coming of age album.
Speaker 1: I think those songs are even when I play them now,
Speaker 1: although a few of them have kind of evolved for
Speaker 1: me in my mind, but m or like change meaning
Speaker 1: you know, not what they once were. I thought it
Speaker 1: was interesting because they're three songs, are Hell raisor Scars
Speaker 1: at Home. All three to me were totally different than
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, Like you had your the hell raisors
Speaker 1: like this old almost like a blues old, like your
Speaker 1: raising hell kind of girl, I'm a badass girl kind
Speaker 1: of thing, and then the Scars kind of had like
Speaker 1: the rock feel to it, and then Home is like
Speaker 1: this homeie feel to it, So yeah, I thought it
Speaker 1: was interesting, and all three are great, by the way.
Speaker 1: So if you're listening to this, go stream that. Go
Speaker 1: check it out now. And is that something that you
Speaker 1: aim for is to is it a song that comes
Speaker 1: to you and whatever however it comes out. You're not
Speaker 1: really aiming at a certain genre or a certain feel
Speaker 1: to it. It's just like this is how I listen
Speaker 1: to it, is that I hear it and it comes
Speaker 1: out yeah, okay, Yeah, I've I stand firmly on the
Speaker 1: ground of like a good song as a good song period.
Speaker 1: And if I feel as if I were to create
Speaker 1: music to fit in a certain genre, I would be
Speaker 1: denying myself. As I explained to you earlier, I grew
Speaker 1: up around everything. So I feel like if I tried
Speaker 1: to whether I go like, oh, this is just gonna
Speaker 1: be a rock album, or this is just going to
Speaker 1: be a country album, or this is just going to
Speaker 1: be a roots album, or you know, however it would go.
Speaker 1: And maybe I can talk to someone who knows more
Speaker 1: than I am that or more than I do that
Speaker 1: can kind of help me, you know, round out the edges.
Speaker 1: But I just try to live by a good song
Speaker 1: as a good song, and if you can play an
Speaker 1: acoustic and it stands on its own, it's a good song.
Speaker 1: So whether it's country or it's rock, I'm going to
Speaker 1: put it out, you know, because somewhere down the line
Speaker 1: someone's going to listen to it and go like I
Speaker 1: needed that today. Thanks. I like it. I like the versatility,
Speaker 1: thank you, And I want to close out with this.
Speaker 1: I try to ask everybody this, what advice because moving
Speaker 1: in all chasing the dream, live in a life that
Speaker 1: doesn't really there's not much security in it. Everyone knows
Speaker 1: it for the love of it, right, Yeah, So what
Speaker 1: what advice would you give somebody listen to this that's like, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I have a job that I hate and
Speaker 1: I really want to kind of try this, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna work out that are on
Speaker 1: the ropes or whatever it might be. Do you have
Speaker 1: any advice for advice for somebody that maybe sitting there?
Speaker 1: Do it? Just do it, and you don't have to
Speaker 1: know what it looks like, and you don't have to
Speaker 1: know what it tastes like or feels like or what
Speaker 1: room you're in. But if you are sincerely doing something,
Speaker 1: every day that is not feeding your soul or making
Speaker 1: you grow as a human being. Stop. Don't do that.
Speaker 1: Whether you have to live with your parents for another
Speaker 1: year or however, you have to figure it out, find
Speaker 1: what makes you tick and go for it. Jump do it,
Speaker 1: take the leap. Yeah, I get Tara. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for coming on. Where can you find you on
Speaker 1: social media? Everything? My handles at I am pister, my
Speaker 1: last name F I S T E R. Okay, go
Speaker 1: check her out. Check out our music that self titled
Speaker 1: debut album, Hell Raiser, Scars and Home and the three
Speaker 1: songs are awesome. Check it out, terras or anything else
Speaker 1: you'd like the sex. Thanks for having me, of course,
Speaker 1: have a beer a thank you