1 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,159 Speaker 1: Welcome to season two of Unsigned and Independent. We have 2 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: another episode and another season of this and Kevin kind 3 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: of restate your goal for why you started this show. 4 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: So the goal was when I first came into Nashville, 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: I saw these bands, artists that I thought were really good, 6 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: and I didn't understand why I've never heard of this 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: person or this group, and I wanted to get them 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: on to talk about, you know, the late nights of Broadway. 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm playing late, getting up early, and just the whole 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: grind of the industry without the backing of a label 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: or a record company, or a management team or which 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 1: all the things I hope to get right and want 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: to be coolest to see some of these some of 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: these folks develop into signed and not independent exactly because 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: when we started the Bobbycast a long time ago, that 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: was a deal. We had a lot of artists on 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: and songwriters that later became stars I met. I think 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: about Ryan Hurd, who was just a songwriter. We talked 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: to him, is all right, new guy heard? You know, 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: he would talk about how hard it was to write 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: songs get a publishing deal. But this is what you're doing. 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: Even a step farther back, it's like a prequel. He 23 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: had an early Bobby cast. And so who'd you talk 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: with this time? This is Tara Fister. Why Tara? Because 25 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: I met her through somebody I had on the first 26 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: season last year. Actually his name is Graham, and he 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: kind of told me about her, introduced me to her, 28 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: came across her stuff, and she had this presence about her, 29 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: has this presence about her. She's got bright hair, bright clothes, tattoos, 30 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: she's got this presence on stage where just like, I 31 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: need to know more about this girl. She good live, Yeah, 32 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: it's great. So you talk with her. She's from Saint Louis, 33 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: she's been here for ten years or so. Does she 34 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: have the frustration of, hey, why hasn't this happened for 35 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: me yet? No? She has such a good outlook on 36 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna do what I need to do 37 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: and everything else would kind of take care of itself. 38 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: She's had her frustrated days or her weeks, you know, 39 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: taking care of everything, funding everything, managing everything, but overall 40 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: she's got a good outlook on the bigger picture. All right. 41 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: Here we go, Unsigned and Independent with Kevin O'Connell aka 42 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: kick Off Kevin. Here is Tara Fister here on the 43 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: Bobby Cast in a special edition? By the way, is 44 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: this a new season? Yes? Oh I did Music to 45 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: My Ears season two, episode one of Unsigned and Independent. 46 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: Hey Tara, good to see you, Good to have you 47 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: in here. How long has it been since you moved 48 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: to Nashville. It'll be ten years this July, I believe. Wow, Yeah, Forest, 49 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: I moved down. Okay, I like literally pulled into town 50 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: as a fireworks are going off. Really yeah, so it's 51 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: a little it's a cute old story. That's awesome. I 52 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: saw the fireworks show here a couple of years ago, 53 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: and it's probably the best I've ever seen. Yeah, as 54 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: long as the smoke doesn't blur it out right? Yea, 55 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: that is true. What was your mindset coming in from 56 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: Saint Louis to Nashville? Where you like, oh my gosh, 57 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: I want to be all over the radio. I want to, 58 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, sign with this purse or this label and 59 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: do this and this or was it kind of just 60 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: a freelancing let's see what happens, let's move and just 61 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: chase a dream here. Yeah, well I had. I had 62 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: just turned twenty one. I worked at a Ford dealership, okay, 63 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: And I was coming to Nashville about once a month 64 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: to do a writer's round and try to create some 65 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: type of circle or community or just you know, get 66 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: my feet wet. And one night after a writer's round, 67 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: I was hanging out with a group of friends and 68 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: we were going to the Preds game. So we were 69 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: standing in Rippy's and just standing there, you know, taking 70 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: in the scene, and a guy on stage whose name 71 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: was Greg Humphrey. He just pointed me out in the 72 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: crowd and he was like, you're a singer. And at 73 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: that time I had had enough beverages where I was like, 74 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: hell yeah, I'm a singer. And he got me on 75 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: stage and I sang a couple of songs and he 76 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: through the tip jog at me and he was like, 77 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: if you can come back with this tip jugful, I'll 78 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: have a job for you. I was like deal. So 79 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: I ran the tip jar and I came back and 80 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: I gave him my card and he called me. Two 81 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: weeks later. I went to the game, went back to 82 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: Saint Louis, you know, went about my life, and he 83 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: called me about two weeks later and he was like, 84 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: what are you doing for cmafest And I was like, 85 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: whatever you tell me, I'm doing. So he's like, oh, 86 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: why don't you come down you can play with my band, 87 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: blahlah blah. So I came down two weeks later, played 88 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: with this band, went back home, and then he called 89 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: me again about two weeks later and said, if you 90 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: want to move, you have a job. Wow. So I 91 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: packed up everything, which was like a bag of shoes, 92 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: a bag of clothes, my guitar, a microphone in my 93 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: car and moved like a week later and slept on 94 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: one of my girlfriend's couches for a couple of weeks, 95 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 1: and then segued into somebody's apartment that the roommate situation 96 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: didn't work out, and then into a house. And here 97 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: I am ten years later. Do you like the idea 98 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: that it was just so sudden and like you had 99 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: to make a decision right then and there, almost as 100 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: if you didn't have to maybe build up too and 101 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: think about it too much, or just like, you know what, 102 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: why not, let's do it? Well, to be if I 103 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: was being honest with myself, I would say that I 104 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: always knew, even when I was aty biddy, like when 105 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: people would ask me when I was little, you know, 106 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: what do you want to do? I would always answer, 107 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: I want to be the girl in music videos, and 108 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: I meant the singer, like, you know, the not the 109 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: main character, but me watching like rebuff on the TV 110 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: or whatever. Okay, I want to be the girl in 111 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: music videos. And so I think there was no really 112 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: thinking having to be done. I've always known in my 113 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: core that no matter what I was doing, it would 114 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: be revolved around music. What surprises me the most about 115 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: it is my parents just looked at me and you're like, okay, 116 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: see you later. I was that. When I think about it, 117 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh. I was so naive. I 118 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: had never lived out in my house. I had never 119 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: paid bills, Like even when I was in college, I 120 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: was going to a university right on the road, so 121 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: I had lived with my parents. Like there was never 122 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: any I just looked at my parents, was like, I 123 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: think when we move Nashville. My mom was like, great, 124 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: we'll see you later. Like, oh, okay, bye. Were you 125 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: did you think she might have be a little reluctant 126 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: to it, either of your parents like, oh, I don't know, 127 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: this is such a good idea. You don't know if 128 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna really make it or are they always been 129 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,119 Speaker 1: that supportive? They've always been really supportive. I was. I'd 130 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: like to think that I was always pretty straightforward with 131 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: them too. I wasn't a big head like. I wasn't 132 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: a you know, I wasn't sneaking out and lying and 133 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: do whatever. So and they've known, you know, my first 134 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 1: job was working in a music store, and I started 135 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: taking piano lessons when I was itty bitty and took 136 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: every lesson you can think of from there on out, 137 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: and it just I think it was a very natural 138 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: segue into where I am at now. Was music always 139 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: a big thing for you? Yes, it's um a little 140 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: bit of everything. So I have a My dad is 141 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: one of six and all of his all of his sisters. 142 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: He's there's three boys and three girls, all of them saying. 143 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: My grandma plays killer piano. I just have vivid memories 144 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: of show tunes when dinner was over in washing dishes, 145 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: and all of my aunts would split into harmonies and 146 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: sing Oklahoma or Carousel or whatever was in their mind 147 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: that day. UM so kind of started there, and I 148 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: just my mom always joked about that, I kind of 149 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: came out singing my brother was in theater. My sister 150 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: was a big rockhead. My dad loved the rat Pack, 151 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: my mom was into country so and I was the youngest. 152 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: So I was just kind of a little a little 153 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: melting pot. Oh wow, okay, yeah, youngest, just a brother 154 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: and a sister. Okay, so youngest of three? Are you 155 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: the only artist in the I guess you guys all 156 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: have some musical talent involved. My brother does. So it's 157 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: my sister Lee, my brother Stephen, and myself, and I'm 158 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: Stephen is a theater kid, so he did it, you know, 159 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: an adult as well. And he's phenomenal. He's one of 160 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: those guys that, like, they always told him that his 161 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: biggest challenge and I would be deciding if he wants 162 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: to build and paint the stage or be on it. Wow. Yeah, 163 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: he can do anything. Wow. That's awesome. So you're not 164 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: the most talented in the family, or are you equally talented? 165 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: I'd like to say equally talented, different tastes. It's like 166 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: apples and oranges. You know, we're still we're still the 167 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: same things. You mentioned Reebo. You'd watch her on TV 168 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: growing up. Who are some of your other idols or musicians? 169 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: Bands that you looked up to and maybe still look 170 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: up to well when I was little. It's interesting I 171 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: was kind of forced. Sounds harsh, but it wasn't harsh. 172 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: I just I wasn't allowed to watch MTV, so really 173 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: the only thing I could watch was CMT that had 174 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: music involved, you know. So, um, Lean Walmock was huge 175 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: for me. Leon Womack was kind of my like my lady. 176 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: She's still my lady crush, but at this point in 177 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: my life, I think someone who has a huge phone 178 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: over me. I love the Food Fighters, I love Billy 179 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: Joel Um. Those two are kind of my main like 180 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: they can and honestly, I'm am a pretty huge John 181 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: Mayer fan. And I know people can talk all sorts 182 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: of smack, but I really do enjoy his guitar playing 183 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: like I just love his tone. Anything he does, I'm like, yeah, 184 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm there, I'm right there with you. He has an 185 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: album that kind of changed the way that I started 186 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: playing that I started singing um just listening to him 187 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: The Search for Everything, and I had to still feel 188 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: like a man. Um. I love that whole album, so 189 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: that's awesome. I've never seen him. I would love to 190 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: see him he's fantastic. He really is. My friend. Garrett 191 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: and I went Garrett throwing. He's a fellow artist as well, 192 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: um Wisconsin guy. But we made the agreement going in. 193 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: I was like, neither of us is going to talk 194 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: like at all, and he was like, I agree. So 195 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: we literally just went in there and like stood next 196 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: to each other and just like consumed the entire show 197 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: in silence. It was great and soaked at all and 198 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: stoked at all. I mean, yeah, that's a great idea. 199 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't think you've ever even thought about doing something 200 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: like that. But it's almost like one of these we're like, 201 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to live in the moment 202 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: right now, right here. I don't want to talk to you. 203 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't, Yeah, I just want to act like I'm 204 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: sitting in my car listening to them by myself or 205 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: something like that. Well, and I've learned that the older 206 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: I get and the more I can kind of like 207 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: sit and reflect on myself and who I am and 208 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: how I've grown, I've noticed that I just I really 209 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: cannot concentrate if there's music in the room, Like if 210 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: there's music going on, if it's if even if it's 211 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: a bar downtown and people are trying to talk or 212 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,599 Speaker 1: have conversations and you know, mingle my brain. I'm just 213 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: watching the music. I'm just I'm like, you know. So 214 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: it's nice to have concert buddies that kind of have 215 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: the same mindset. You just go in. They're like, Okay, 216 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: we're both going to thoroughly enjoy this standing next to 217 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: each other, and that's it. And as an arty talk later, 218 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: are you, like, are you watching or listening? I should say, 219 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: more than anything listening and thinking? Are you are you 220 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: hearing everything going on? Like you're not just hearing a song? 221 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: If that makes sense? Are you kind of breaking it 222 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: down in your head? Oh yeah, I think yeah, because 223 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: you have an ear for it and you're in it 224 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: like I'm not. I don't play any I'm not musically 225 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: talented at all. Yeah, so I wouldn't understand like I 226 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: would some other things like you would with it. So 227 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: it's just interesting to me. If you sit there and 228 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: listen to it, you're probably listening to a whole different 229 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: sound then say, I would be, Um, yeah, I think 230 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: that's a fair statement. But I also think, you know, 231 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: with this being what I do, it's also nice to 232 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: watch other people, you know, even the visuals. You look 233 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, well, you know, like how am 234 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: I consuming this? Like well, obviously like auditorian visual, So 235 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: how would I've done that? Would I have put that 236 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: piano there? Would I have set the stage that way? 237 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: Would I have these lights at this time? Was that 238 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: confetti on point? You know? Like whatever it is you're doing, 239 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: big or small, I just like to like research how 240 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: other people present their passion. Do you find yourself It's 241 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: funny and bring that up because I'll do that with 242 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: like TV shows or radio shows, you know, working in 243 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: the industry, and I'll be like, well, where is the producer? 244 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: Why isn't he telling this person to do this or whatever? 245 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: That with movies all the time, now I'm like, oh, 246 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: look at this shot. I'm like, no, Tara, I get 247 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: consumed exactly. You're not enjoying the movie now, you're just 248 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: looking at the background. So that's what I was going 249 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: to ask. Can you do you think it like kind 250 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: of hinders your enjoyment of a show or no? Is 251 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: it more of an art to you that you're just 252 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: trying to figure out your mind? I think it's more 253 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: of an art, and I think something else. So I've 254 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: made my New Year's resolution was to see one show 255 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: a month, because I think when you're a creator, when 256 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: you're making music constantly, you forget to go get it, 257 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: like you forget to go get it in your in 258 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: your blood again, and you kind of forget, you know, 259 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,599 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I've got to play that night, Like 260 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go see this show, you know, 261 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: But every time I leave a concert, I'm always so 262 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: happy I did that. I'm always like, oh man, I 263 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: needed that. Like I think as an artist, you forget, 264 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, you're like giving, giving, giving, but you forget 265 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: that when you go to the concert that artist is 266 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: giving to you, like you fill your cut back up, 267 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: and you forget that you can do that at concerts, 268 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: even in small venues. You know, there's so many great 269 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: stages in Nashville that are itty bitty that you can 270 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: just go and you're like, oh man, I didn't even 271 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: know I needed that. You just walk out of there 272 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: going like I feel different than I did walking in. 273 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: You have a very profound look to you where it's 274 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: like you walk in and you have this bright hair 275 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: and these tattoos and a lot of your outfits are 276 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: very bright and colorful. Yeah, And is that something that 277 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: you have always done throughout your life? Like growing up 278 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: as a teenager, did you always have different How many 279 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: hair color shade have you had? Do you think probably 280 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: most of them? Is that something that you dive into 281 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: and you just really enjoy just bringing out your personality 282 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: with it, whether it's your tattoos or your outfits or 283 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: your hair because I love it. I mean you walk 284 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: in and you just scream confidence. Oh yeah, so it 285 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: just that's what Okay, So maybe it's just a front 286 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: and then no, I think with each passing year, I 287 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: definitely settle more and more into it. I think it's 288 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: who I've always been. I think as a teenager, you 289 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: know you're always you don't really I don't think majority 290 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: of us know exactly who we are as teenagers. We 291 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: have a vague outline, right, yes, but m yeah, No, 292 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: the colors have always been part of me. I enjoy colors. 293 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: I don't have. I like a nice solid black dress 294 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: every once in a while, but other than matt, I'm 295 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: whatever catches my eye that day is going on. So 296 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: and a lot of times I don't think they really 297 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: make a whole lot of sense, but my friends tell 298 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: me I look cool, So that's great. Thanks. Since you 299 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: moved to Nashville and you started playing music right away, 300 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: has this always been your source of income for you? 301 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: Or have you had to have multiple jobs at some points? Like? 302 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: What's that been like for you? Um, there was about 303 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: a year where I bartended, but um, that was mostly 304 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: because I wanted to bartend. I'd never bartended before and 305 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: I just woke up and was like, I want to 306 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: dry bartending one day. So I did that for about 307 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: a year and um no, But other than that, IVE 308 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: always been music full time since I was twenty one. Okay, 309 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: do you think that's pretty rare for you too? Because 310 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: I talk to some people and they'll be like, yeah, 311 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: I've had to serve for a year, like had to 312 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: serve or had to barten, or had to do another 313 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: job during the day and then perform at night. So 314 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: do you find yourself pretty lucky are you? Or do 315 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: you find other people as well who can come here 316 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: and make a living just doing music from the get go? 317 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: I think it really depends on your personality. Depends on 318 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: your personality and your work ethic, and you're honestly your 319 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: ability to live at a lower income at moments in 320 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: your life, like if you have the ability to go like, Okay, 321 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: well you know my bank account is has four dollars 322 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: in it, but I know I'm going to work tonight, 323 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: and I know I'm working this weekend, and so I 324 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: just have to make four dollars. I have to not 325 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: freak out at having four dollars. If you can have 326 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: the wherewithal to just like chill yourself out, you'll be fine. 327 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: I've always eaten. My dad has a great saying of 328 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: like what did He always used to tell some real 329 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: It was something along the lines of like you may 330 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: never have excess, but somehow you will always have enough. 331 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's like a blind faith 332 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: thing or if it's just like a you know, you 333 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: get what you put out. But I have always had enough, 334 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: and there's been moments of like, you know, holy that 335 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: was a big paycheck. So I'd like more of those. 336 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: Anybody's listening, Yeah, Universe, if you're out there, I'd like 337 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: some more of those places. If you get into existence, yes, 338 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm here, show me which door to walk through when 339 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: you hit those low moments, whether it's monetarily or professionally. 340 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: Have you had a moment where you're like, I don't 341 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: know if this is what I want to do anymore? No, 342 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: you've never gotten there. No, I've had moments of like, 343 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: I may have moments of going like, man, what am 344 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: I doing with my life? But it always resolves to 345 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: exactly what you're supposed to be doing, and it's just 346 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: not easy. So you're gonna be uncomfortable. You are human, 347 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: You're gonna be uncomfortable. You're gonna have self doubt, You're 348 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: going to compare yourself set time, you know, to those 349 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: around you and wonder why you didn't get that call 350 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: or you know, oh my gosh, there's so much you know, 351 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: thinking someone's better than you are, but no one can 352 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: do it like I can do it, and I can't 353 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: do it like they can do it. Do you play 354 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: downtown a lot or no? Um, I played down there 355 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: when I'm in town like Monday through Wednesday, and then 356 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: you're traveling on the weekend. Traveling on the weekends, Yeah, 357 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: you are? You like on tour right now or you 358 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: I did a little tour last year. As of right now, 359 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: my next thing I think is in Uh, I'm going 360 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: to Oregon I haven't done like a tour, like a 361 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: drive by drive mine or more like flight dates. I 362 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: guess you'd say, are you filling in kind of thing 363 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: or is it like a band that you're with. It's 364 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: kind of about half and half. Okay, so half of 365 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: them will be acoustic dates and half of them will 366 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: be band dates. Okay, yeah, okay, you got a pretty 367 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: busy year coming up, or I hope. So, yeah, it's 368 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: I've got a couple of dates I'm supposed to be playing, 369 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: and I think it's October. I'm going over to Switzerland 370 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: to play a festivals called Bottom Part, so that'll be 371 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm excited for that one. They have like a ten 372 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: day festival where the whole city shuts down, and I've 373 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: been over there a couple of times, I think three 374 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: or four times now, So shout out to Bottom Switzerland, 375 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: high guys looking forward to that. Do you pay for 376 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: all this out of pocket? Everything I've ever done is 377 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: out of my own pocket? What's that like for you? 378 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: Trying to You're booking your own stuff, You're paying your 379 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: your your own everything, right, correct, So what is that 380 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: entail overwhelming for you? There are moments where, especially last 381 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: year and I feel going into this year where I'm like, Okay, 382 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: I understand why this takes a team, because sometimes I 383 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: just kind of look around. I'm like, ah, there's a 384 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: lot of things I need to do right now. But 385 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: I think it's also I'm I'm grateful for it now 386 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: because I think when the time comes that I'm able 387 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: to afford to have that team, I will be understanding 388 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: of their situations. You know, it won't be so expected. 389 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: It'll be more like a, Okay, it happens that, Yeah 390 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: that was weird. Let's you know, segue this way or 391 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: whatever we have to do. And it's allowed me to 392 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: just learn the business, you know five Like what do 393 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: they call it? Baptism by fire? So um, yeah, that's 394 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: an interesting perspective. So if anything goes wrong in the 395 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: future and you have a team, you're like, well, I've 396 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: been there, I understand. Here's how we can either fix it, 397 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: or you can understand and not just yell at them 398 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: right within reason, or I have my feelings hurt or 399 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: be frustrated. You know, it's like frustration can only get 400 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: you so far, and then it's like you just have 401 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: to do something about it, you know, right, right, So 402 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: but it's so the last two years I've been in 403 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: the studio making my second album, and everything I have 404 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: has been put into this album, financially, emotionally, musically, anything, sonically, whatever, 405 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: you know, everything I have has gone into this album. 406 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: And just within this past month are they like cherry 407 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: on top being sent to mix master. And it's been 408 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: such an enjoyable process. And you know, the creating part 409 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: is always the fun part is always the that's you know, 410 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: why I'm here. It's like why the souls in this 411 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: body doing what I'm doing. But now it's coming down 412 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: to the business part where I'm going to have to 413 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: present this to investor or you know, shot myself around 414 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: whatever it is. And I have my ideas of how 415 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: I want to do it in but I'm looking now 416 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: for those people to help me execute, and I am 417 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm just really excited to see what happens. Do you 418 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: have a date set or a time frame set for 419 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: the launch? I mean, honestly, you're promoted here. What's the 420 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: album called? What do you think? In the mic? Is 421 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: all your floors all yours? Oh? Well, thank you? I'm 422 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: going to So I've got ten songs. I'm going to 423 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: release them single for single to get my wear and 424 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: tear out of it. But I've also told myself with 425 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: this project because my first experience recording my first album, 426 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: I was so like deadline, deadline, deadline, which I was 427 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: only doing to myself. Nobody was doing this to me. 428 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: I was just gonna like, no, I want it by 429 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: this time. I want to do it, dear. And and 430 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: I've learned that listening back to those songs, I'm like, 431 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: those things that bothered me. Even though I was like, oh, 432 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: it's not a big deal, I was like, they still 433 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: bother me. Till this day. I listened to those songs 434 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: and all I hear are the parts that bother me. 435 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: So I've told myself that I'm allowing myself to take 436 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: as much time as this is where I know that 437 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: it is exactly what I want. And although it's more 438 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: money and it's more time and it's time's not real, right, 439 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Clocks are made up. This is 440 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: actually a time podcast. Yeah. So yeah, I'm just I'm 441 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: trying to allow myself grace and like, let my OCD 442 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: just rest for a second anytime. I'm like, I want 443 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: to now. And the guy that I'm working with my 444 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: He's one of my very good friends. His name is Jaycott's. 445 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: He plays bass for Randy Houser. He's helped me produce 446 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: this whole thing. And he's always like, hey, remember, you've 447 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: got to like, I know you want to do it. 448 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: I know you want to I know we want to 449 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: push this forward. He's like, but let's live with it, 450 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: give it a couple of days, let your ears come 451 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: in and out of it, and let's see how we 452 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: attack it from here. And he's always right, I'm like, no, 453 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: let's you know, like, I think this is great, let's 454 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: move where. He's like, just give it a couple of days. 455 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: You know. You're like, and I'm so grateful for him 456 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: talking me off the ledge all the time. It's hard 457 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: to be patient though. It's like that old saying where 458 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: if you go buy a car or a house or something, 459 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: the first one you look like like, oh I love this, 460 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: I want to get this, and you're like, well, no, 461 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: let's look at a couple of other ones for yeah, 462 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: and if you still like that one, then we'll come 463 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: back to that one, right. Yeah. It's kind of like 464 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: that same mentality where you're like, you can't just jump 465 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: on something and then just get it out there or 466 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: buy it, purchase it and then be like, well, I 467 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: probably should have thought about this little hard Yeah, and 468 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: that previous album you're talking about is your self titled 469 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: debut album? Correct? It was? Yeah, twenty nine years of learning. 470 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: That's just how I described it, Okay. Yeah, I was 471 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: just self titled. I was Tarilyn Pisto. Okay, And that's 472 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: that pretty much self explanatory. Twenty nine years of learning 473 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: and stuff you learned over the years, and yeah, have 474 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: a lot of fun and a lot of it was 475 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: just that was kind of a coming of age album. 476 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: I think those songs are even when I play them now, 477 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: although a few of them have kind of evolved for 478 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: me in my mind, but m or like change meaning 479 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, not what they once were. I thought it 480 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: was interesting because they're three songs, are Hell raisor Scars 481 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: at Home. All three to me were totally different than 482 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, Like you had your the hell raisors 483 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: like this old almost like a blues old, like your 484 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: raising hell kind of girl, I'm a badass girl kind 485 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: of thing, and then the Scars kind of had like 486 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: the rock feel to it, and then Home is like 487 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: this homeie feel to it, So yeah, I thought it 488 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: was interesting, and all three are great, by the way. 489 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: So if you're listening to this, go stream that. Go 490 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: check it out now. And is that something that you 491 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: aim for is to is it a song that comes 492 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: to you and whatever however it comes out. You're not 493 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: really aiming at a certain genre or a certain feel 494 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: to it. It's just like this is how I listen 495 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: to it, is that I hear it and it comes 496 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: out yeah, okay, Yeah, I've I stand firmly on the 497 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: ground of like a good song as a good song period. 498 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: And if I feel as if I were to create 499 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: music to fit in a certain genre, I would be 500 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: denying myself. As I explained to you earlier, I grew 501 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: up around everything. So I feel like if I tried 502 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: to whether I go like, oh, this is just gonna 503 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: be a rock album, or this is just going to 504 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: be a country album, or this is just going to 505 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: be a roots album, or you know, however it would go. 506 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: And maybe I can talk to someone who knows more 507 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: than I am that or more than I do that 508 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: can kind of help me, you know, round out the edges. 509 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: But I just try to live by a good song 510 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: as a good song, and if you can play an 511 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: acoustic and it stands on its own, it's a good song. 512 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: So whether it's country or it's rock, I'm going to 513 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: put it out, you know, because somewhere down the line 514 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: someone's going to listen to it and go like I 515 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: needed that today. Thanks. I like it. I like the versatility, 516 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: thank you, And I want to close out with this. 517 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: I try to ask everybody this, what advice because moving 518 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: in all chasing the dream, live in a life that 519 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: doesn't really there's not much security in it. Everyone knows 520 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: it for the love of it, right, Yeah, So what 521 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: what advice would you give somebody listen to this that's like, Hey, 522 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, I have a job that I hate and 523 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: I really want to kind of try this, but I 524 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna work out that are on 525 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: the ropes or whatever it might be. Do you have 526 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: any advice for advice for somebody that maybe sitting there? 527 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: Do it? Just do it, and you don't have to 528 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: know what it looks like, and you don't have to 529 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: know what it tastes like or feels like or what 530 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: room you're in. But if you are sincerely doing something, 531 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: every day that is not feeding your soul or making 532 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: you grow as a human being. Stop. Don't do that. 533 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: Whether you have to live with your parents for another 534 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: year or however, you have to figure it out, find 535 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: what makes you tick and go for it. Jump do it, 536 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: take the leap. Yeah, I get Tara. Thank you so 537 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: much for coming on. Where can you find you on 538 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: social media? Everything? My handles at I am pister, my 539 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: last name F I S T E R. Okay, go 540 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: check her out. Check out our music that self titled 541 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: debut album, Hell Raiser, Scars and Home and the three 542 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: songs are awesome. Check it out, terras or anything else 543 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: you'd like the sex. Thanks for having me, of course, 544 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: have a beer a thank you