Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren z Ema Comedy from the home
Speaker 1: office in Austin, Texas today to talk about something that
Speaker 1: I didn't think would be that controversial, but apparently it is.
Speaker 1: As we open up the playbook on taking the last
Speaker 1: name of your significant other, of your spouse, changing your
Speaker 1: last name when you get married, is it right? Is
Speaker 1: it wrong? Should you do it? Is it just an
Speaker 1: old tradition that nobody really knows why we continue to
Speaker 1: do it? Elsie, that's what we're talking about today.
Speaker 2: You're so right that I did not expect this to
Speaker 2: be so controversial.
Speaker 3: So this kind of started because.
Speaker 2: I went on my Instagram and I keep getting these
Speaker 2: emails from the wedding website the notot no shade to
Speaker 2: the knot. Look, they're doing their job, they know I'm
Speaker 2: a bride. They're sending me stuff. But I keep getting
Speaker 2: these things that are kind of cracking me up because
Speaker 2: they're sort of stressful emails. I got an email, you know,
Speaker 2: like you get an email blast. And I got an
Speaker 2: email the other day that said, you should really consider.
Speaker 3: A destination wedding.
Speaker 2: Lauren, and I'm like it's a bit like for that.
Speaker 2: I got one that said, in the subject line changing
Speaker 2: your name, let's change your name? How the not can
Speaker 2: help you save time when changing your name? And I
Speaker 2: posted this on my Instagram because I thought it. You know,
Speaker 2: it's just so interesting to me because here's what that
Speaker 2: email says to me. That email blast says to me.
Speaker 2: The assumption, the commonality is still that a woman marrying
Speaker 2: a man is going to take is likely going to
Speaker 2: take that man's last name, or at least it will
Speaker 2: be like a strong consideration and a discussion point. Will
Speaker 2: the woman take the man's last name? Is she going
Speaker 2: to do it? Changing your name?
Speaker 3: Question mark?
Speaker 2: And I went on Instagram and said, you know, why
Speaker 2: are we not yet at the point where we're discussing, well,
Speaker 2: would the man potentially take that last name?
Speaker 3: Would you know, how do we feel about changing your
Speaker 3: last name at all? And it was very polarizing.
Speaker 2: You got some really strong opinions, So I got I
Speaker 2: did a little poll, I said how do we feel
Speaker 2: about last name changing? And the options that I gave
Speaker 2: were one, women should take men's last names. Two it
Speaker 2: needs to be more equal, meaning like maybe a man
Speaker 2: should take a woman's last name, and three, no one
Speaker 2: should change their last names. Fifty one percent of the
Speaker 2: responders at press time here said women should take men's
Speaker 2: last names. They didn't even choose the option. It needs
Speaker 2: to be more equal, and that was interesting to me.
Speaker 2: I got a couple strong responses. One woman told me
Speaker 2: that she thought my way of thinking was quote disgusting.
Speaker 3: She called me disgusting.
Speaker 2: She said that men are women's protectors, and so women
Speaker 2: should take men's last names. Another woman told me, if
Speaker 2: you wanted him to ask him to marry you, then
Speaker 2: you should take his last name. I thought that was
Speaker 2: interesting and actually sort of a valid point because we
Speaker 2: also still many of us assume at this point that
Speaker 2: the man should ask the woman to marry him.
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you, I've probably never said this
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like I loved you asking me to
Speaker 2: marry you. And I knew that, like well, I knew
Speaker 2: that you were kind of a not old school but
Speaker 2: like a romantic in that way, and I knew you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I knew you'd want to ask me, but I didn't
Speaker 2: need you to ask me. Like if we'd I so
Speaker 2: would have married you if it was I'm not sure
Speaker 2: I ever would have asked you because I think you
Speaker 2: wouldn't have liked that or something.
Speaker 1: Right, But well, then how would we have ever gotten married.
Speaker 3: Well, that's part of the problem. Somebody's got to do it.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: We could have discussed it one day. I don't know
Speaker 2: that like, but I loved you asking to marry me.
Speaker 3: And here's the thing. I want to make it clear.
Speaker 2: I don't have hate for people taking somebody's last name.
Speaker 2: My point here is why is it not more of
Speaker 2: a discussion. Why is it not more of a consideration
Speaker 2: instead of just me getting this email with the assumption
Speaker 2: that I, Lauren am thinking about changing my last thing.
Speaker 1: I definitely did not get that email.
Speaker 3: You didn't get that email.
Speaker 1: I did not get that email from the not or
Speaker 1: anybody else.
Speaker 2: And if you're being honest, let me ask you. Did
Speaker 2: you at any point think maybe I'll take Lauren's last name.
Speaker 1: Well, we've joked about it because I think zemails.
Speaker 3: People have asked me, are you taking Chris's last name?
Speaker 1: Anybody legitimately has asked me, would you take Lauren's last name?
Speaker 2: It's not a point of discussion for straight men. In
Speaker 2: straight relationships.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, so I know people listen to
Speaker 1: these podcasts out of order at times. But earlier in
Speaker 1: the week, I had a sit down with Madison Prewitt Trout.
Speaker 1: Madison Prewitt, of course, was on The Bachelor, on Peter
Speaker 1: season The Bachelor, and she just got married to this guy,
Speaker 1: Grant Trout, and she took his name, and we started
Speaker 1: the podcast out by talking about that, and for her
Speaker 1: it was kind of interesting. She wasn't that strongly opinionated
Speaker 1: about it, like, oh my gosh, you have to do this.
Speaker 1: She it was important to her because of her faith
Speaker 1: and valuing and.
Speaker 2: I got several messages from people saying it's rooted in
Speaker 2: the Bible.
Speaker 3: That's why it's important.
Speaker 2: To do well.
Speaker 1: You can find that, yes, you can about honoring your
Speaker 1: spouse and becoming one. And that's what Maddie and I
Speaker 1: talked about it. It's becoming one apart from your family,
Speaker 1: you're now a unit with this person. And so I
Speaker 1: get the biblical sense. I'm a faith driven person and
Speaker 1: so I understand that part. And so I think you
Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head though. Something very important
Speaker 1: we and I'll just speak for myself. I am not
Speaker 1: against doing that, like someone taking their spouse's name. I
Speaker 1: want to make it very clear, we're fine with that.
Speaker 3: It's just.
Speaker 1: What about the opposite and those that don't. Is that
Speaker 1: a bad thing? Is that really an abomination?
Speaker 2: Oh? You're asking if it's a bad thing to not
Speaker 2: for nobody to change their name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for some time.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, I get if you want to change your
Speaker 1: name and it's something that's you, you know. For Maddie,
Speaker 1: it's her first marriage. It's something she's been thinking about,
Speaker 1: and that's awesome. I love that. I love that for you.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying we're broken. I'm not saying that. You know,
Speaker 1: we're beaten and bruised. But Laura and I have done
Speaker 1: this before. We have been down this path. We've been married.
Speaker 1: My first wife changed her name. She got remarried and
Speaker 1: she took it so she hyphenated again. So actually now
Speaker 1: she has kind of my last name and spouse's name.
Speaker 3: And she probably did that in part business.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, it was because she's a real estate agent,
Speaker 1: and so she wanted to keep that because the signs
Speaker 1: and all that. And Maddie even said, which was interesting, I.
Speaker 2: Assumed with your exit. It was also maybe keeping the
Speaker 2: same last name as her kids at that point. I
Speaker 2: heard that from some people and I get that too,
Speaker 2: I mean, especially so you get divorced, You're like, well,
Speaker 2: I didn't want to confuse people not have the same
Speaker 2: last name as my kids.
Speaker 1: I get out of business stuff, you know, in this
Speaker 1: day and age of social media. Maddie was like, well,
Speaker 1: I kept Maddie Prue on my Instagram because that's how
Speaker 1: people know me, and she has millions.
Speaker 3: Wait, is there really a question?
Speaker 2: Is it in the Bible that it's an abomination if
Speaker 2: you don't take the person's last name forgive my religious
Speaker 2: wise well text ignorance.
Speaker 1: Well, and I don't want to kick over in an
Speaker 1: hill that we don't need to kick over. But with
Speaker 1: many things in the Bible, it's really left up to interpretation.
Speaker 1: Many things in the Bible are lessons, parables, what have you.
Speaker 1: And then you have to figure out how you're going
Speaker 1: to apply those to your life and to modern life,
Speaker 1: by the way, and to modern life, because you know
Speaker 1: we can.
Speaker 2: I mean again, listen, and this is I love people
Speaker 2: having faith. I think spirituality is such an important part
Speaker 2: of life, whatever your faith may be. So this is
Speaker 2: no shade or anything. It's just that, you know, I
Speaker 2: also think about, Okay, we're living in modern times when
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people want, for example, their
Speaker 2: son to marry a woman who's like very well educated
Speaker 2: and has a career of her own. So that's very
Speaker 2: different than it was in biblical times. So we got
Speaker 2: to continue to update, is all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Right, I think that the devotion and the word and
Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff has remained the same. And
Speaker 1: I think you know, many people listening who are of faith,
Speaker 1: no matter what that faith is, would say, the crazier
Speaker 1: things get, the more we need to lean back into that,
Speaker 1: into those traditions and stuff. So I understand both sides.
Speaker 1: I really do. If it means something to you, then
Speaker 1: God bless you. I'm all for it. It's just I'm
Speaker 1: not a big fan of ever saying, especially when things
Speaker 1: come out of the Bible, it's my way or the highway.
Speaker 1: The black and white of it all always got me.
Speaker 1: When you're not hurting anybody. If Lauren decides to do this,
Speaker 1: it's not an abomination. If that's how we love and
Speaker 1: respect each other, that's our choice. And if you decide
Speaker 1: to change your name, hyphen eate whatever, that's that's your choice.
Speaker 1: It's all on totally.
Speaker 2: And I said that on Instagram too. I said, look, ultimately,
Speaker 2: do whatever's happy for the whatever makes the two of
Speaker 2: you happy. But I am an advocate for and I
Speaker 2: do think again, it should be a discussion. I don't
Speaker 2: think it should be an assumption that a woman is
Speaker 2: going to take her husband's last name. And another thing
Speaker 2: I said on Instagram this really, I won't back off
Speaker 2: on this. This drives me nuts. And I've seen it
Speaker 2: happen at weddings. You've just gotten married. Yeah, the officiant
Speaker 2: has finished the ceremony, and the two of you turn
Speaker 2: around to the audience, and the officiant says.
Speaker 1: For the first time ever as announce.
Speaker 2: As a married couple, mister and missus Chris Harrison. And
Speaker 2: the woman has no name at all. It's not even
Speaker 2: I've seen this, I've been at weddings. It's not even
Speaker 2: mister and missus Harrison or mister and missus Chris and
Speaker 2: Lauren Harrison. It's just mister and missus Chris Harrison.
Speaker 1: The woman has lost her identity all the time.
Speaker 2: Suddenly, and I think it's meaningful. I don't think it's
Speaker 2: a small thing. It suddenly we've completed this ceremony, she's married,
Speaker 2: and she's disappeared into him.
Speaker 3: Her existence is through him.
Speaker 2: Now, that's what that says to me, And it bothers me,
Speaker 2: because yeah, I can't whatever the Bible might say, I
Speaker 2: can't get. And I'm not saying the two are related
Speaker 2: in any marriage, no matter what, no matter what faith,
Speaker 2: no matter what. A marriage is a partnership. To me,
Speaker 2: these are two human beings in a partnership. And that's
Speaker 2: I don't like what that communicates that it's all his name.
Speaker 1: Now. Well, like that woman said to you in the
Speaker 1: message she sent you about protection, and if you know,
Speaker 1: if you're seeking protection, if you're seeking to honor whatever,
Speaker 1: you should take his name. And I think you can
Speaker 1: do all those things without changing the name on your checkbook.
Speaker 3: By Oh you know what, that's funny.
Speaker 2: A lot of people messaged me and said, I've been
Speaker 2: married thirty years. I never changed my name because logistically
Speaker 2: it was too annoying. I got several messages like that,
Speaker 2: like a woman who said, I just never changed it.
Speaker 2: It's passports and social Security cards and driver's licenses.
Speaker 1: And all that streaming services and well, and then a lot.
Speaker 2: Of people messaged me and said that they'd changed I
Speaker 2: actually got some messages about husbands changing their last names
Speaker 2: because the wife's last name, Like this was a point
Speaker 2: I made. Also, why isn't it a discussion purely for
Speaker 2: logistical reasons? Like one, if somebody has a business, like
Speaker 2: say you and a woman get married and that woman
Speaker 2: has like an incredibly successful business.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Zema's flooring if I was in the flooring business, and
Speaker 2: you know, I really need to keep it for that reason.
Speaker 2: Maybe you even change your name because maybe you're going
Speaker 2: to come in on.
Speaker 3: The business with me.
Speaker 2: Why aren't you discussing it from is does the guy
Speaker 2: have a really long last name? And maybe you should
Speaker 2: take the woman's last name because it's just shorter and easier.
Speaker 3: And then so I got.
Speaker 2: Some really funny messages from people who said that the
Speaker 2: man had taken the woman's last name because the man
Speaker 2: had like an embarrassing name, or the woman's name was embarrassing,
Speaker 2: so she happily was ready to get married and change
Speaker 2: her name, like somebody had the last name. But I
Speaker 2: got a message from someone that they knew someone with
Speaker 2: the last name Boob Bob, and so that person was
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, let's change the name.
Speaker 3: I'm ready. I get that.
Speaker 2: And then I got some interesting dms from people who
Speaker 2: said that both parties man or woman in a relationship
Speaker 2: actually because of like family trauma or not being close
Speaker 2: with their family, had wanted to start a new married
Speaker 2: chapter and take their spouse's last name.
Speaker 3: So that was interesting too.
Speaker 2: It really drove home for me this is very If
Speaker 2: some people might consider it no big deal, but for
Speaker 2: some people it's very emotional and significant.
Speaker 1: Well, I think the most important thing to realize with
Speaker 1: any of this stuff is it's personal. It's personal to you.
Speaker 1: Like everybody listening right now has a feeling, a pretty
Speaker 1: strong feeling about what we're talking about, and you might
Speaker 1: be thinking to yourself, like we are so off base here,
Speaker 1: and you're not wrong. Maybe I don't know, but it's
Speaker 1: it's a very when you get into things like the
Speaker 1: subjects like this. That's why I love talking about it
Speaker 1: is when things get personal, it gets very emotional, and
Speaker 1: we get very you have these visceral reactions. And so
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to bring bring in Kendall because
Speaker 1: she is younger.
Speaker 3: Than us yes, producer Kendall.
Speaker 1: Producer Kendall who has Kendall? Am I correct? And you've
Speaker 1: never been married?
Speaker 3: No, so yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Just want to make sure something I didn't know about you.
Speaker 1: But so you've never been married. Have you thought about this?
Speaker 1: And because you're you're much younger than we are and
Speaker 1: you are on that path of you're gonna fall in
Speaker 1: love and have that first marriage.
Speaker 2: Hopefully only have you ever thought about whether you would
Speaker 2: change your name if or when you get married.
Speaker 4: Yeah? This has been actually a fight between my boyfriend
Speaker 4: and I. As you know, he'd been for like almost
Speaker 4: six years now. We like talk about marriage, but I'm
Speaker 4: in no rush at all, but I personally don't want
Speaker 4: to change my last name and he gets really frustrated
Speaker 4: by that, and he really wants me to have his
Speaker 4: last name if we were to get married. So I
Speaker 4: guess we'll see what happens. But also, like our names
Speaker 4: together hyphenated would not sound good in my opinion, so
Speaker 4: we shall have to see what happens.
Speaker 1: Well, I wonder what his reasonings are.
Speaker 2: I was going to say if you asked him, like,
Speaker 2: why does he get frustrated?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's because he feels that it's a
Speaker 4: unique last name that he is proud of, which I
Speaker 4: totally get, and my last name's Cohen, which everybody has
Speaker 4: the last name Cohen. So it's like, why would you
Speaker 4: want to keep that and not have a unique last
Speaker 4: name like I'm proud of where it came from.
Speaker 3: Doesn't he realized that?
Speaker 2: Like, but it sounds like you want to keep your
Speaker 2: last name because you feel emotionally connected to your last
Speaker 2: name too, So if you both have the same reasoning,
Speaker 2: why doesn't he respect your reasoning?
Speaker 4: You know, that's a good point to definitely tell him that,
Speaker 4: But I guess I don't know. We're so young and
Speaker 4: we try to talk it through, and maybe we're not
Speaker 4: mature enough yet to get each other's like point of
Speaker 4: views on it. But I guess just something we're gonna
Speaker 4: have to figure out.
Speaker 1: The fact that you're even having that conversation in the
Speaker 1: first place is mature and it's smart, and you know,
Speaker 1: it just made me think of another layer to this
Speaker 1: that l Z and I are not going to have
Speaker 1: most likely, and that is kids. So you get married,
Speaker 1: you're young, and you have kids, you don't change your name. Okay,
Speaker 1: who what last name are your kids?
Speaker 3: Taking m H.
Speaker 2: That is a difficult There are just logistics in our
Speaker 2: society that make this a difficult question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so kinda like, And I don't want to put
Speaker 1: you on the spot, but I'm sure that's where your
Speaker 1: mind goes. And so if and when you had kids
Speaker 1: and you were blessed with that, would they take his
Speaker 1: last name? Would you want them to have your last
Speaker 1: name or hyphenate it?
Speaker 4: I guess take his like that.
Speaker 3: I don't mind.
Speaker 4: I just feel like for myself, like I am who
Speaker 4: I am, and I like the sound of it, and
Speaker 4: I don't want to change that.
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you, Kendall.
Speaker 2: I look, I completely agree with you, and this was
Speaker 2: a point of issue in my first marriage. And I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to scare you, but I no, I just
Speaker 2: it's something where obviously there were many other issues. I
Speaker 2: just mean I didn't want to take his last name.
Speaker 2: And by the way, my reasons now are the same
Speaker 2: as they were then. I and you and I we've
Speaker 2: never even really talked about this because I think we've
Speaker 2: both been using our names professionally for so long it
Speaker 2: wasn't even a question, like neither of us I've been
Speaker 2: using Lauren Zima for a decade publicly and professionally, like
Speaker 2: there was no question of am I going to give
Speaker 2: that up? But in my first marriage it was also
Speaker 2: a similar reason, which was, you know, I lost my dad,
Speaker 2: and to me, my last name is a connection to
Speaker 2: my father that I don't want to give up.
Speaker 3: It's my father's last name.
Speaker 2: So they're actually, you know, I'm glad that my mom
Speaker 2: had us kids take my dad's last name because now
Speaker 2: it really helps me feel connected to my father's no
Speaker 2: longer here, and so that's really beautiful. Like the name
Speaker 2: taking thing, I don't want to I don't want to say.
Speaker 2: I don't think it can't be so beautiful and emotional important. Again,
Speaker 2: I'm just wanting it to be a discussion. But the
Speaker 2: issue with my first husband was he'd like, I mean,
Speaker 2: I told him it's about my connection to my dad,
Speaker 2: and he no matter what he saw it as like
Speaker 2: somehow that I wasn't committing to him, that I wouldn't
Speaker 2: take his name or something, And again I would say, well,
Speaker 2: then why do I have to prove that to you
Speaker 2: in that way show your commitment to me take my
Speaker 2: last name?
Speaker 3: Then why can't it go both ways?
Speaker 1: Well, what's interesting is anybody's argument that says it's so
Speaker 1: important to me, it's important to me that you do this,
Speaker 1: you need to consider it. Well if it's just as important,
Speaker 1: like the what you're talking about is one hundred percent
Speaker 1: about how important it is to you. Of why you
Speaker 1: wanted to keep your dad's last name. It's not that
Speaker 1: you wanted to keep your mom's maide name or whatever
Speaker 1: like that is what I find important in this. Listening
Speaker 1: to your significant other, listening to your spouse, why, why
Speaker 1: do you know? Why does Lauren Zima want to keep
Speaker 1: her name? Yes, there's the practicality of it. She's been
Speaker 1: known worldwide is Lauren Zema.
Speaker 2: And I think it's always a little bit of a
Speaker 2: red flag.
Speaker 3: Other thanks for the worldwide.
Speaker 1: Worldwide, you're international, babe.
Speaker 2: I think it's a red flag if the person isn't
Speaker 2: open to it going the other way, like if I
Speaker 2: then turn the question around and say, okay, well would
Speaker 2: you be open to taking my last name? And if
Speaker 2: it's an immediate no, well that's a red flag to me.
Speaker 2: If in partnership, why aren't you open to going both
Speaker 2: ways with it?
Speaker 1: And the traditions and again we go back to the
Speaker 1: church and maybe we'll have to have somebody on and
Speaker 1: really talk more at length about this.
Speaker 3: But well, but what's interesting too.
Speaker 2: I got some dms from people about out cultural differences,
Speaker 2: like you know, we're only thinking about the American version
Speaker 2: of this. I don't want to quote this wrong, but
Speaker 2: I think because I don't know it, but I think
Speaker 2: I got a DM from someone who was like, well,
Speaker 2: in Latino culture, there's like so many more, there's so
Speaker 2: much more to it, like this we're only talking about
Speaker 2: American culture or somebody's A lot of people told me
Speaker 2: they had seen people like create whole new names, that
Speaker 2: that's not unusual in other places of the world to
Speaker 2: just create a new name when you get married. Or
Speaker 2: if we're looking back at history, I got a DM
Speaker 2: from someone who was like, well, think about the origins
Speaker 2: of names, like you know, blacksmith or or goldsmith. Your
Speaker 2: last name was just made up by what your profession was, right,
Speaker 2: So you know, if we're going to draw from history
Speaker 2: or from faith or for you know, I'm just saying
Speaker 2: be open and aware too of that other cultures might
Speaker 2: do things differently, that there might be meaning in other ways.
Speaker 2: And again, what matters to you to how can you
Speaker 2: to create meaning with the choices that you're making, emotional
Speaker 2: connection with the choices that you're making. But to me,
Speaker 2: you just got to make sure your partners is hearing you,
Speaker 2: and if not, then that's I think that's an issue
Speaker 2: because this is clearly a big thing.
Speaker 3: It's your identity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's getting on the same page as having those conversations.
Speaker 1: And these conversations sometimes are so easy, Like the conversation
Speaker 1: between you and I was so easy. Well, in no
Speaker 1: way do I feel threatened or lesser than.
Speaker 3: As I'm thinking about it. Did we ever have the conversation?
Speaker 1: Not really. I mean we've talked about it, for sure,
Speaker 1: but it was never I just always knew where you stood.
Speaker 1: I think you always made it very clear where you
Speaker 1: stood on this, and I never had a problem with it,
Speaker 1: and so I never needed to have a deeper conversation
Speaker 1: of why how I mean, it makes sense to me
Speaker 1: where we are in our life, where we're headed. It
Speaker 1: just makes sense to me.
Speaker 2: If we were getting married when we were twenty three
Speaker 2: and we were going to have kids, would you have
Speaker 2: been open to taking my last name?
Speaker 1: Interesting?
Speaker 3: I don't think you would.
Speaker 1: I don't know, probably I don't know. Definitely not. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to think now, like twenty three year old me.
Speaker 3: No, that's what I mean.
Speaker 2: I think you were a little bit of a different
Speaker 2: person then, less mature, less probably less of a feminist,
Speaker 2: honestly true, and I mean not at all a feminist.
Speaker 2: I know you've always had such respect for your mother
Speaker 2: and your grandmother and their careers.
Speaker 1: Just as a twenty three year old male.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're different, more of an idiot and you're much
Speaker 3: more of a dude.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of places you can end
Speaker 1: up without just saying it's my way or the highway.
Speaker 1: And again I would go back and say, if you're
Speaker 1: listening to this and you are pounding your fist on
Speaker 1: the Bible and saying it's written right here, I'm not
Speaker 1: disagreeing with you. I am a man of faith. I
Speaker 1: believe in many things in the Bible, and I think
Speaker 1: there are some amazing lessons and things we take from it,
Speaker 1: and we should, in crazy times kind of harken back
Speaker 1: to some of the great traditions and things that made
Speaker 1: us a little more whole as a people. But I
Speaker 1: also think that times change, traditions can change people can change,
Speaker 1: and so I think it's okay to have these conversations.
Speaker 1: It's okay to push yourself to have these conversations.
Speaker 3: And I love hearing from everybody about it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we're going to on this one.
Speaker 2: I would love to hear more. I didn't the woman
Speaker 2: who told me she was disgusted with me. That was
Speaker 2: a little strong. But I loved the many fun stories
Speaker 2: about the different name changes, and I loved the emotional
Speaker 2: stories from people about it.
Speaker 1: What would our new last name be if we just
Speaker 1: forego both of our last names, it would be Lauren
Speaker 1: and Chris.
Speaker 3: Hair Azeema Harry Zeemas. Some people call us that, truly.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the thing some of our friends because they know,
Speaker 2: you know, you might say the Harrisons or the Johnson's
Speaker 2: are coming over, so our friends call us the Harry
Speaker 2: Zemas instead of Harrison, or we've gotten the Zema Sinsons.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The thing is, you couldn't take my last name because
Speaker 2: Chris Zema is too hard to say Chris Zeema.
Speaker 3: It sounds like one word.
Speaker 2: I don't love.
Speaker 1: It was like when I was dumb enough to put
Speaker 1: the bee in my name when I first got my
Speaker 1: social Instagram hands.
Speaker 3: Why did you do that?
Speaker 1: Because obviously Chris Harrison, pretty rare name, I believe it
Speaker 1: or not, was taken. This is like and this is
Speaker 1: like day two of Twitter, whatever the hell it is.
Speaker 1: And so you know, once your pop committed on that,
Speaker 1: you kind of just.
Speaker 2: Know with it.
Speaker 3: I luckily I grabbed Lauren Zema early on. There are
Speaker 3: a few other Lauren Zemas out there.
Speaker 1: There's a few Chris Harrison's.
Speaker 2: Also, Lauren Harrison is so long and there's like two
Speaker 2: uns in there.
Speaker 1: It puts me to sleep.
Speaker 3: Lauren Harrison, I just want to want I want you
Speaker 3: to just Okay, we don't want to put the people
Speaker 3: to sleep, So let's wrap up. Everybody, please dm us
Speaker 3: your thoughts.
Speaker 2: I love, by the way, how passionate people are about
Speaker 2: this topic, especially as we're getting close to getting married.
Speaker 2: I kind of love sharing these big marriage milestone moments
Speaker 2: and seeing how people feel because, you know, if there's
Speaker 2: one thing, and it's why we do this podcast that
Speaker 2: people get fired up about, it's love, it's relationships, it's marriage,
Speaker 2: it stands the.
Speaker 3: Test of time.
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting how many topics as we're heading, you know,
Speaker 1: towards walking down the aisle ourselves. How many topics are
Speaker 1: swept under the rug that really are a lightning lot
Speaker 1: of controversy, yet we're not talking about it. You never
Speaker 1: hear this conversation, and so clearly it's important, because clearly
Speaker 1: we've struck a nerve, and so I appreciate these conversations
Speaker 1: that we can have. I love it, and Kendall, I
Speaker 1: really hope that you can somehow work your way through
Speaker 1: this and stay together, Elsie, I appreciate it. On behalf
Speaker 1: of the Herozemas. Thank you, Thank you for listening. We
Speaker 1: enjoy these conversations and we will do it again next
Speaker 1: time because we have a lot more to talk about.
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