1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren z Ema Comedy from the home 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: office in Austin, Texas today to talk about something that 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: I didn't think would be that controversial, but apparently it is. 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: As we open up the playbook on taking the last 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: name of your significant other, of your spouse, changing your 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: last name when you get married, is it right? Is 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: it wrong? Should you do it? Is it just an 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: old tradition that nobody really knows why we continue to 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: do it? Elsie, that's what we're talking about today. 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: You're so right that I did not expect this to 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: be so controversial. 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: So this kind of started because. 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: I went on my Instagram and I keep getting these 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: emails from the wedding website the notot no shade to 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 2: the knot. Look, they're doing their job, they know I'm 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: a bride. They're sending me stuff. But I keep getting 18 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: these things that are kind of cracking me up because 19 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: they're sort of stressful emails. I got an email, you know, 20 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: like you get an email blast. And I got an 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: email the other day that said, you should really consider. 22 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 3: A destination wedding. 23 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: Lauren, and I'm like it's a bit like for that. 24 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: I got one that said, in the subject line changing 25 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: your name, let's change your name? How the not can 26 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: help you save time when changing your name? And I 27 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: posted this on my Instagram because I thought it. You know, 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: it's just so interesting to me because here's what that 29 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: email says to me. That email blast says to me. 30 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 2: The assumption, the commonality is still that a woman marrying 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: a man is going to take is likely going to 32 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: take that man's last name, or at least it will 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: be like a strong consideration and a discussion point. Will 34 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: the woman take the man's last name? Is she going 35 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: to do it? Changing your name? 36 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: Question mark? 37 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: And I went on Instagram and said, you know, why 38 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: are we not yet at the point where we're discussing, well, 39 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: would the man potentially take that last name? 40 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 3: Would you know, how do we feel about changing your 41 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: last name at all? And it was very polarizing. 42 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: You got some really strong opinions, So I got I 43 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: did a little poll, I said how do we feel 44 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: about last name changing? And the options that I gave 45 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: were one, women should take men's last names. Two it 46 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: needs to be more equal, meaning like maybe a man 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: should take a woman's last name, and three, no one 48 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: should change their last names. Fifty one percent of the 49 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: responders at press time here said women should take men's 50 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: last names. They didn't even choose the option. It needs 51 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: to be more equal, and that was interesting to me. 52 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: I got a couple strong responses. One woman told me 53 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: that she thought my way of thinking was quote disgusting. 54 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 3: She called me disgusting. 55 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: She said that men are women's protectors, and so women 56 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: should take men's last names. Another woman told me, if 57 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: you wanted him to ask him to marry you, then 58 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: you should take his last name. I thought that was 59 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: interesting and actually sort of a valid point because we 60 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: also still many of us assume at this point that 61 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: the man should ask the woman to marry him. 62 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you, I've probably never said this 63 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: to you. 64 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like I loved you asking me to 65 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 2: marry you. And I knew that, like well, I knew 66 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: that you were kind of a not old school but 67 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: like a romantic in that way, and I knew you. Yeah, 68 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: I knew you'd want to ask me, but I didn't 69 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: need you to ask me. Like if we'd I so 70 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: would have married you if it was I'm not sure 71 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: I ever would have asked you because I think you 72 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't have liked that or something. 73 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: Right, But well, then how would we have ever gotten married. 74 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: Well, that's part of the problem. Somebody's got to do it. 75 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. 76 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: We could have discussed it one day. I don't know 77 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: that like, but I loved you asking to marry me. 78 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: And here's the thing. I want to make it clear. 79 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: I don't have hate for people taking somebody's last name. 80 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: My point here is why is it not more of 81 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: a discussion. Why is it not more of a consideration 82 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: instead of just me getting this email with the assumption 83 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: that I, Lauren am thinking about changing my last thing. 84 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: I definitely did not get that email. 85 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: You didn't get that email. 86 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: I did not get that email from the not or 87 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: anybody else. 88 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: And if you're being honest, let me ask you. Did 89 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: you at any point think maybe I'll take Lauren's last name. 90 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: Well, we've joked about it because I think zemails. 91 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: People have asked me, are you taking Chris's last name? 92 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: Anybody legitimately has asked me, would you take Lauren's last name? 93 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: It's not a point of discussion for straight men. In 94 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: straight relationships. 95 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: I think, you know, so I know people listen to 96 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: these podcasts out of order at times. But earlier in 97 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: the week, I had a sit down with Madison Prewitt Trout. 98 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: Madison Prewitt, of course, was on The Bachelor, on Peter 99 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: season The Bachelor, and she just got married to this guy, 100 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: Grant Trout, and she took his name, and we started 101 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: the podcast out by talking about that, and for her 102 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: it was kind of interesting. She wasn't that strongly opinionated 103 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: about it, like, oh my gosh, you have to do this. 104 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: She it was important to her because of her faith 105 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: and valuing and. 106 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: I got several messages from people saying it's rooted in 107 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: the Bible. 108 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: That's why it's important. 109 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 2: To do well. 110 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: You can find that, yes, you can about honoring your 111 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: spouse and becoming one. And that's what Maddie and I 112 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: talked about it. It's becoming one apart from your family, 113 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: you're now a unit with this person. And so I 114 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: get the biblical sense. I'm a faith driven person and 115 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: so I understand that part. And so I think you 116 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head though. Something very important 117 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: we and I'll just speak for myself. I am not 118 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: against doing that, like someone taking their spouse's name. I 119 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: want to make it very clear, we're fine with that. 120 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: It's just. 121 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: What about the opposite and those that don't. Is that 122 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: a bad thing? Is that really an abomination? 123 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: Oh? You're asking if it's a bad thing to not 124 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: for nobody to change their name. 125 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, for some time. 126 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 3: And that's the thing. 127 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: It's like, I get if you want to change your 128 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,559 Speaker 1: name and it's something that's you, you know. For Maddie, 129 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: it's her first marriage. It's something she's been thinking about, 130 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: and that's awesome. I love that. I love that for you. 131 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying we're broken. I'm not saying that. You know, 132 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: we're beaten and bruised. But Laura and I have done 133 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: this before. We have been down this path. We've been married. 134 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: My first wife changed her name. She got remarried and 135 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: she took it so she hyphenated again. So actually now 136 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: she has kind of my last name and spouse's name. 137 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: And she probably did that in part business. 138 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 1: Oh okay, it was because she's a real estate agent, 139 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: and so she wanted to keep that because the signs 140 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: and all that. And Maddie even said, which was interesting, I. 141 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: Assumed with your exit. It was also maybe keeping the 142 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: same last name as her kids at that point. I 143 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: heard that from some people and I get that too, 144 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: I mean, especially so you get divorced, You're like, well, 145 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 2: I didn't want to confuse people not have the same 146 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: last name as my kids. 147 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: I get out of business stuff, you know, in this 148 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: day and age of social media. Maddie was like, well, 149 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: I kept Maddie Prue on my Instagram because that's how 150 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: people know me, and she has millions. 151 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: Wait, is there really a question? 152 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: Is it in the Bible that it's an abomination if 153 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: you don't take the person's last name forgive my religious 154 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: wise well text ignorance. 155 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: Well, and I don't want to kick over in an 156 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: hill that we don't need to kick over. But with 157 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: many things in the Bible, it's really left up to interpretation. 158 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: Many things in the Bible are lessons, parables, what have you. 159 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: And then you have to figure out how you're going 160 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: to apply those to your life and to modern life, 161 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: by the way, and to modern life, because you know 162 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: we can. 163 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: I mean again, listen, and this is I love people 164 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: having faith. I think spirituality is such an important part 165 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: of life, whatever your faith may be. So this is 166 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: no shade or anything. It's just that, you know, I 167 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: also think about, Okay, we're living in modern times when 168 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people want, for example, their 169 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: son to marry a woman who's like very well educated 170 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: and has a career of her own. So that's very 171 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: different than it was in biblical times. So we got 172 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: to continue to update, is all I'm saying. 173 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: Right, I think that the devotion and the word and 174 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff has remained the same. And 175 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: I think you know, many people listening who are of faith, 176 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: no matter what that faith is, would say, the crazier 177 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: things get, the more we need to lean back into that, 178 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: into those traditions and stuff. So I understand both sides. 179 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: I really do. If it means something to you, then 180 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: God bless you. I'm all for it. It's just I'm 181 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: not a big fan of ever saying, especially when things 182 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: come out of the Bible, it's my way or the highway. 183 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: The black and white of it all always got me. 184 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: When you're not hurting anybody. If Lauren decides to do this, 185 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: it's not an abomination. If that's how we love and 186 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: respect each other, that's our choice. And if you decide 187 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: to change your name, hyphen eate whatever, that's that's your choice. 188 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: It's all on totally. 189 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: And I said that on Instagram too. I said, look, ultimately, 190 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: do whatever's happy for the whatever makes the two of 191 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: you happy. But I am an advocate for and I 192 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: do think again, it should be a discussion. I don't 193 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: think it should be an assumption that a woman is 194 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: going to take her husband's last name. And another thing 195 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: I said on Instagram this really, I won't back off 196 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: on this. This drives me nuts. And I've seen it 197 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: happen at weddings. You've just gotten married. Yeah, the officiant 198 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 2: has finished the ceremony, and the two of you turn 199 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: around to the audience, and the officiant says. 200 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: For the first time ever as announce. 201 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 2: As a married couple, mister and missus Chris Harrison. And 202 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: the woman has no name at all. It's not even 203 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: I've seen this, I've been at weddings. It's not even 204 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: mister and missus Harrison or mister and missus Chris and 205 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: Lauren Harrison. It's just mister and missus Chris Harrison. 206 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: The woman has lost her identity all the time. 207 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: Suddenly, and I think it's meaningful. I don't think it's 208 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: a small thing. It suddenly we've completed this ceremony, she's married, 209 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 2: and she's disappeared into him. 210 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 3: Her existence is through him. 211 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: Now, that's what that says to me, And it bothers me, 212 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: because yeah, I can't whatever the Bible might say, I 213 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: can't get. And I'm not saying the two are related 214 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: in any marriage, no matter what, no matter what faith, 215 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: no matter what. A marriage is a partnership. To me, 216 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 2: these are two human beings in a partnership. And that's 217 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: I don't like what that communicates that it's all his name. 218 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: Now. Well, like that woman said to you in the 219 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: message she sent you about protection, and if you know, 220 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: if you're seeking protection, if you're seeking to honor whatever, 221 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: you should take his name. And I think you can 222 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: do all those things without changing the name on your checkbook. 223 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: By Oh you know what, that's funny. 224 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: A lot of people messaged me and said, I've been 225 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 2: married thirty years. I never changed my name because logistically 226 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: it was too annoying. I got several messages like that, 227 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: like a woman who said, I just never changed it. 228 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: It's passports and social Security cards and driver's licenses. 229 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: And all that streaming services and well, and then a lot. 230 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 2: Of people messaged me and said that they'd changed I 231 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: actually got some messages about husbands changing their last names 232 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: because the wife's last name, Like this was a point 233 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 2: I made. Also, why isn't it a discussion purely for 234 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: logistical reasons? Like one, if somebody has a business, like 235 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: say you and a woman get married and that woman 236 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: has like an incredibly successful business. 237 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. 238 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: Zema's flooring if I was in the flooring business, and 239 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: you know, I really need to keep it for that reason. 240 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: Maybe you even change your name because maybe you're going 241 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 2: to come in on. 242 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 3: The business with me. 243 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: Why aren't you discussing it from is does the guy 244 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: have a really long last name? And maybe you should 245 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: take the woman's last name because it's just shorter and easier. 246 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: And then so I got. 247 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: Some really funny messages from people who said that the 248 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: man had taken the woman's last name because the man 249 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 2: had like an embarrassing name, or the woman's name was embarrassing, 250 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: so she happily was ready to get married and change 251 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: her name, like somebody had the last name. But I 252 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: got a message from someone that they knew someone with 253 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 2: the last name Boob Bob, and so that person was 254 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, let's change the name. 255 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 3: I'm ready. I get that. 256 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 2: And then I got some interesting dms from people who 257 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 2: said that both parties man or woman in a relationship 258 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: actually because of like family trauma or not being close 259 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: with their family, had wanted to start a new married 260 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: chapter and take their spouse's last name. 261 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 3: So that was interesting too. 262 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: It really drove home for me this is very If 263 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: some people might consider it no big deal, but for 264 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: some people it's very emotional and significant. 265 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: Well, I think the most important thing to realize with 266 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: any of this stuff is it's personal. It's personal to you. 267 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: Like everybody listening right now has a feeling, a pretty 268 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: strong feeling about what we're talking about, and you might 269 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: be thinking to yourself, like we are so off base here, 270 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: and you're not wrong. Maybe I don't know, but it's 271 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: it's a very when you get into things like the 272 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: subjects like this. That's why I love talking about it 273 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: is when things get personal, it gets very emotional, and 274 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: we get very you have these visceral reactions. And so 275 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to bring bring in Kendall because 276 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: she is younger. 277 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 3: Than us yes, producer Kendall. 278 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: Producer Kendall who has Kendall? Am I correct? And you've 279 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: never been married? 280 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: No, so yeah, I. 281 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: Just want to make sure something I didn't know about you. 282 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: But so you've never been married. Have you thought about this? 283 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: And because you're you're much younger than we are and 284 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: you are on that path of you're gonna fall in 285 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: love and have that first marriage. 286 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: Hopefully only have you ever thought about whether you would 287 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: change your name if or when you get married. 288 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? This has been actually a fight between my boyfriend 289 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 4: and I. As you know, he'd been for like almost 290 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: six years now. We like talk about marriage, but I'm 291 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 4: in no rush at all, but I personally don't want 292 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 4: to change my last name and he gets really frustrated 293 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 4: by that, and he really wants me to have his 294 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 4: last name if we were to get married. So I 295 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 4: guess we'll see what happens. But also, like our names 296 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 4: together hyphenated would not sound good in my opinion, so 297 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 4: we shall have to see what happens. 298 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: Well, I wonder what his reasonings are. 299 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: I was going to say if you asked him, like, 300 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: why does he get frustrated? 301 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's because he feels that it's a 302 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 4: unique last name that he is proud of, which I 303 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 4: totally get, and my last name's Cohen, which everybody has 304 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 4: the last name Cohen. So it's like, why would you 305 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 4: want to keep that and not have a unique last 306 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 4: name like I'm proud of where it came from. 307 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: Doesn't he realized that? 308 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: Like, but it sounds like you want to keep your 309 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: last name because you feel emotionally connected to your last 310 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: name too, So if you both have the same reasoning, 311 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: why doesn't he respect your reasoning? 312 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 4: You know, that's a good point to definitely tell him that, 313 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 4: But I guess I don't know. We're so young and 314 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 4: we try to talk it through, and maybe we're not 315 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 4: mature enough yet to get each other's like point of 316 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 4: views on it. But I guess just something we're gonna 317 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 4: have to figure out. 318 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: The fact that you're even having that conversation in the 319 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: first place is mature and it's smart, and you know, 320 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: it just made me think of another layer to this 321 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: that l Z and I are not going to have 322 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: most likely, and that is kids. So you get married, 323 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: you're young, and you have kids, you don't change your name. Okay, 324 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: who what last name are your kids? 325 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: Taking m H. 326 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: That is a difficult There are just logistics in our 327 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: society that make this a difficult question. 328 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so kinda like, And I don't want to put 329 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: you on the spot, but I'm sure that's where your 330 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: mind goes. And so if and when you had kids 331 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: and you were blessed with that, would they take his 332 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: last name? Would you want them to have your last 333 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: name or hyphenate it? 334 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 4: I guess take his like that. 335 00:15:59,000 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: I don't mind. 336 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 4: I just feel like for myself, like I am who 337 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 4: I am, and I like the sound of it, and 338 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 4: I don't want to change that. 339 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you, Kendall. 340 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: I look, I completely agree with you, and this was 341 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: a point of issue in my first marriage. And I'm 342 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: not trying to scare you, but I no, I just 343 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: it's something where obviously there were many other issues. I 344 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: just mean I didn't want to take his last name. 345 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: And by the way, my reasons now are the same 346 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: as they were then. I and you and I we've 347 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: never even really talked about this because I think we've 348 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: both been using our names professionally for so long it 349 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: wasn't even a question, like neither of us I've been 350 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: using Lauren Zima for a decade publicly and professionally, like 351 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: there was no question of am I going to give 352 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: that up? But in my first marriage it was also 353 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: a similar reason, which was, you know, I lost my dad, 354 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: and to me, my last name is a connection to 355 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: my father that I don't want to give up. 356 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: It's my father's last name. 357 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: So they're actually, you know, I'm glad that my mom 358 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 2: had us kids take my dad's last name because now 359 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: it really helps me feel connected to my father's no 360 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: longer here, and so that's really beautiful. Like the name 361 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 2: taking thing, I don't want to I don't want to say. 362 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: I don't think it can't be so beautiful and emotional important. Again, 363 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: I'm just wanting it to be a discussion. But the 364 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: issue with my first husband was he'd like, I mean, 365 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: I told him it's about my connection to my dad, 366 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: and he no matter what he saw it as like 367 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: somehow that I wasn't committing to him, that I wouldn't 368 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: take his name or something, And again I would say, well, 369 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: then why do I have to prove that to you 370 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 2: in that way show your commitment to me take my 371 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: last name? 372 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: Then why can't it go both ways? 373 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: Well, what's interesting is anybody's argument that says it's so 374 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: important to me, it's important to me that you do this, 375 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: you need to consider it. Well if it's just as important, 376 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: like the what you're talking about is one hundred percent 377 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: about how important it is to you. Of why you 378 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: wanted to keep your dad's last name. It's not that 379 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: you wanted to keep your mom's maide name or whatever 380 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: like that is what I find important in this. Listening 381 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: to your significant other, listening to your spouse, why, why 382 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: do you know? Why does Lauren Zima want to keep 383 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: her name? Yes, there's the practicality of it. She's been 384 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: known worldwide is Lauren Zema. 385 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 2: And I think it's always a little bit of a 386 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: red flag. 387 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: Other thanks for the worldwide. 388 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: Worldwide, you're international, babe. 389 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: I think it's a red flag if the person isn't 390 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: open to it going the other way, like if I 391 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: then turn the question around and say, okay, well would 392 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: you be open to taking my last name? And if 393 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: it's an immediate no, well that's a red flag to me. 394 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: If in partnership, why aren't you open to going both 395 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 2: ways with it? 396 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: And the traditions and again we go back to the 397 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: church and maybe we'll have to have somebody on and 398 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: really talk more at length about this. 399 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: But well, but what's interesting too. 400 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: I got some dms from people about out cultural differences, 401 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 2: like you know, we're only thinking about the American version 402 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: of this. I don't want to quote this wrong, but 403 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: I think because I don't know it, but I think 404 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 2: I got a DM from someone who was like, well, 405 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: in Latino culture, there's like so many more, there's so 406 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: much more to it, like this we're only talking about 407 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: American culture or somebody's A lot of people told me 408 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: they had seen people like create whole new names, that 409 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 2: that's not unusual in other places of the world to 410 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 2: just create a new name when you get married. Or 411 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: if we're looking back at history, I got a DM 412 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: from someone who was like, well, think about the origins 413 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 2: of names, like you know, blacksmith or or goldsmith. Your 414 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: last name was just made up by what your profession was, right, 415 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 2: So you know, if we're going to draw from history 416 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: or from faith or for you know, I'm just saying 417 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: be open and aware too of that other cultures might 418 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: do things differently, that there might be meaning in other ways. 419 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 2: And again, what matters to you to how can you 420 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: to create meaning with the choices that you're making, emotional 421 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: connection with the choices that you're making. But to me, 422 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 2: you just got to make sure your partners is hearing you, 423 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: and if not, then that's I think that's an issue 424 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: because this is clearly a big thing. 425 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: It's your identity. 426 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's getting on the same page as having those conversations. 427 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: And these conversations sometimes are so easy, Like the conversation 428 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: between you and I was so easy. Well, in no 429 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: way do I feel threatened or lesser than. 430 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: As I'm thinking about it. Did we ever have the conversation? 431 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: Not really. I mean we've talked about it, for sure, 432 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: but it was never I just always knew where you stood. 433 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: I think you always made it very clear where you 434 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: stood on this, and I never had a problem with it, 435 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: and so I never needed to have a deeper conversation 436 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: of why how I mean, it makes sense to me 437 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: where we are in our life, where we're headed. It 438 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: just makes sense to me. 439 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: If we were getting married when we were twenty three 440 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: and we were going to have kids, would you have 441 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: been open to taking my last name? 442 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: Interesting? 443 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 3: I don't think you would. 444 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, probably I don't know. Definitely not. I'm 445 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: just trying to think now, like twenty three year old me. 446 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 3: No, that's what I mean. 447 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: I think you were a little bit of a different 448 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: person then, less mature, less probably less of a feminist, 449 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: honestly true, and I mean not at all a feminist. 450 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: I know you've always had such respect for your mother 451 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: and your grandmother and their careers. 452 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: Just as a twenty three year old male. 453 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're different, more of an idiot and you're much 454 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 3: more of a dude. 455 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of places you can end 456 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: up without just saying it's my way or the highway. 457 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: And again I would go back and say, if you're 458 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: listening to this and you are pounding your fist on 459 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: the Bible and saying it's written right here, I'm not 460 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: disagreeing with you. I am a man of faith. I 461 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: believe in many things in the Bible, and I think 462 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: there are some amazing lessons and things we take from it, 463 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: and we should, in crazy times kind of harken back 464 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: to some of the great traditions and things that made 465 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: us a little more whole as a people. But I 466 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: also think that times change, traditions can change people can change, 467 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: and so I think it's okay to have these conversations. 468 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: It's okay to push yourself to have these conversations. 469 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: And I love hearing from everybody about it. 470 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I think we're going to on this one. 471 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 2: I would love to hear more. I didn't the woman 472 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 2: who told me she was disgusted with me. That was 473 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: a little strong. But I loved the many fun stories 474 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: about the different name changes, and I loved the emotional 475 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 2: stories from people about it. 476 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: What would our new last name be if we just 477 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: forego both of our last names, it would be Lauren 478 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: and Chris. 479 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: Hair Azeema Harry Zeemas. Some people call us that, truly. 480 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 2: Okay, that's the thing some of our friends because they know, 481 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: you know, you might say the Harrisons or the Johnson's 482 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 2: are coming over, so our friends call us the Harry 483 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: Zemas instead of Harrison, or we've gotten the Zema Sinsons. 484 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 485 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: The thing is, you couldn't take my last name because 486 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: Chris Zema is too hard to say Chris Zeema. 487 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: It sounds like one word. 488 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: I don't love. 489 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: It was like when I was dumb enough to put 490 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: the bee in my name when I first got my 491 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: social Instagram hands. 492 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 3: Why did you do that? 493 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: Because obviously Chris Harrison, pretty rare name, I believe it 494 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: or not, was taken. This is like and this is 495 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: like day two of Twitter, whatever the hell it is. 496 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: And so you know, once your pop committed on that, 497 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: you kind of just. 498 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: Know with it. 499 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 3: I luckily I grabbed Lauren Zema early on. There are 500 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: a few other Lauren Zemas out there. 501 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: There's a few Chris Harrison's. 502 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: Also, Lauren Harrison is so long and there's like two 503 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 2: uns in there. 504 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: It puts me to sleep. 505 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 3: Lauren Harrison, I just want to want I want you 506 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: to just Okay, we don't want to put the people 507 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 3: to sleep, So let's wrap up. Everybody, please dm us 508 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: your thoughts. 509 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: I love, by the way, how passionate people are about 510 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 2: this topic, especially as we're getting close to getting married. 511 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: I kind of love sharing these big marriage milestone moments 512 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: and seeing how people feel because, you know, if there's 513 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: one thing, and it's why we do this podcast that 514 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: people get fired up about, it's love, it's relationships, it's marriage, 515 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: it stands the. 516 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 3: Test of time. 517 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting how many topics as we're heading, you know, 518 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: towards walking down the aisle ourselves. How many topics are 519 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: swept under the rug that really are a lightning lot 520 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: of controversy, yet we're not talking about it. You never 521 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: hear this conversation, and so clearly it's important, because clearly 522 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: we've struck a nerve, and so I appreciate these conversations 523 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: that we can have. I love it, and Kendall, I 524 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: really hope that you can somehow work your way through 525 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: this and stay together, Elsie, I appreciate it. On behalf 526 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: of the Herozemas. Thank you, Thank you for listening. We 527 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: enjoy these conversations and we will do it again next 528 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: time because we have a lot more to talk about. 529 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Follow us on Instagram at the most 530 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: dramatic pod ever and make sure to write us a 531 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: review and leave us five stars. I'll talk to you 532 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: next time.