WEBVTT - Two Jersey Js: Saying Goodbye to Housewives 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:06.040 Hey, everyone, Welcome back to another episode of Two Jersey Jays. 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:10.640 I'm Jackie Jennifer, and today we are discussing something very 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:14.040 timely and interesting and it's something that I've been wanting 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:17.560 to talk about because basically, no one knows what's going 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:18.960 on with Jersey that's true. 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:21.360 Yes, that's I don't know. I can promise you that. 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:22.040 Yeah. 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:23.920 I don't think they get just all the time. No, no, no, 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:28.880 none of us. Now everyone has their theories, but basically 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:31.200 I think that a lot of us are at a 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.840 point where we're starting to think about what life might 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:39.120 look like without the show. And something about the show 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.960 is that it really kind of in a good way. 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:43.239 I mean, it could be a good way or a 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:45.239 bad way, but it like really like takes over your 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:47.800 life if you let it, which it has for most 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:48.240 of us. 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:51.519 It kind of like you have so much going on. 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.360 It's like every day there's something, whether you're planning something 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.400 or attending something, or talking about the show, or like 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:59.120 filming the show or watching the show. 0:00:59.320 --> 0:00:59.520 Yeah. 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:01.959 Yeah, So it's not like a three month gig, right, 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:05.880 It definitely is, from my experience, takes up more time 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:07.720 than three months months out of the year. 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:08.480 Yeah, for sure. 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.720 And you know, for some house I've you know, on 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:15.119 other franchises, suddenly that rug gets pulled out from under 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:19.119 them and they don't have time to even think about 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.399 what would my life look like without the show. And 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:25.920 of course, like most of us have beautiful lives. It's 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:29.040 not like anyone's going to go like live in poverty 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:33.560 or like not have anything. But it is a lot 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:35.720 to adjust from. 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.360 I would think every year that you're on is a 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:40.520 year more you have to adjust afterwards. I don't know, 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:42.000 I'm just making that up, but I would think that 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:44.880 it's harder for someone like you, Jack than it would 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.360 be for me, just simply because of the fact that I. 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:49.520 Haven't been on as long. I'm not well, I don't. 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.200 Know about that, because after my second year on the show, 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.000 I was way more like obsessed with it than I 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.760 am now. Really, yeah, like after my second year, I 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:59.680 was like more and more like I couldn't get enough. 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:03.680 I want all of it, like every extra activity, And 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.280 now I'm kind of like I feel very fortunate, like 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.480 I would like to come back if the show comes back, 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.240 but like I feel very fortunate that I had like 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.880 almost seven years of like excitement and like I feel 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:17.799 like I could do something with those open doors now, 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.399 you know, like I wouldn't be as devastated I think 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.040 now as I would have been. 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.640 If it all got taken away after two years. 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.320 That's so interesting because I think about not just from 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.120 our cast, but you know, ogs from all of the 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:34.040 casts and have been lived a certain way for let's say, 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:37.200 over ten years. Well, I think it's really person specific 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.320 now even how it's sort of like how it all resonates, 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:41.359 how it pans out. 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:45.160 Yeah, you know, like I think there's some like longtime housewives, 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:48.000 so I could just read on them that they're like 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.840 okay with moving on. Yeah, like that maybe it doesn't 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.680 fit their life anymore, you know what I'm saying. I mean, 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:56.519 it's certainly listen, it's all encompassing. 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.320 It's not this is not the kind of gig where 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.200 you don't not thinking about you know, work once you 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:03.079 once you go home. 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:04.040 It's not a nine to five. 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:08.040 So yeah, I mean, obviously things changed dramatically, and I 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:11.680 think there's probably such an emotional toll to that. Yeah, 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.440 I haven't experienced it yet. Could be that I'm about to, 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.560 could be that I am not. Who knows, you know 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:19.079 how it's going to go. But it's going to end 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:21.640 one way or another. It's not this is not going 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:23.960 to be you know, my my trajectory on the show 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:25.200 is not going to be all right. 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.160 It's going to end for everybody at some point, Like 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.720 we're not going to be in our seventies on the show, right. So, 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.800 but but it is interesting that we are in the 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:39.160 unique position to get like almost some time to like contemplate, 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:42.320 well what it could feel like and to prepare for that, 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.400 you know, so that by the time it comes and 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:47.880 who knows, who knows what they're going to do, like 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:49.960 I have, I have seen Bravo. 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.760 Like so, Jen and I are not. 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.800 Going to be talking about specific people or mentioning specific 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.720 names today because there's no reason to do that. But 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:00.000 we're going to talk in generality. 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:04.960 But I have seen. I just think it's interesting that 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:06.320 we get like that. 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:10.040 Time to prepare, whereas some people just get it old 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:12.600 pulled out potomac. 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:13.080 Yeah. 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.359 Well, also just in terms of I just want you 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:20.239 guys to know that, like we obviously, you know, we 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.480 go back and forth with specifics and what do you 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:24.440 think about not just our show, we talk about you know, 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.599 all the different franchises, Like do you think this person's 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:26.880 going to go? 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:28.400 Is this We're going to say? What is this person 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:28.920 doing now? 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.840 But because we are, we're talking and we try to 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:33.560 talk to you guys each week about stuff that's going 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.680 on outside of Housewives and stuff that we're dealing with, 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:41.720 you know, at our ages and going through these crazy 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:43.920 life changes. But I feel I feel like this is 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.960 you know, it's not just sounds specific to anyone housewife, 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.240 Like what happens in your life when something you've been 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.880 so devoted to, something that has sort of like taken 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:57.680 over and something that has formed your identity is now 0:04:58.279 --> 0:04:59.279 no longer? Right? 0:04:59.440 --> 0:04:59.880 Like what do you? 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:01.320 Where do you go from there? Is there a way 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:05.640 to prepare? Is your mental health affected? I'm sure that 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:09.359 it is good and bad right specifically like with the Housewives, 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.240 I'm sure good things and bad things happen on. 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:13.840 So how are like if it ended? 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:16.680 So you know, That's why I said to you, I 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:18.600 feel like it would be harder if I had been 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:22.279 on longer for me, and also because I've been in 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.640 this friend of role. I'm not saying it won't be 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.080 hard and I can't I can tell you right now oh, 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:28.560 I'll be fine. But the truth is, like when I 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:29.960 found out I was going to be a friend of 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:33.280 instead of a full time housewife, my ego was just 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.839 so bent out of shape. So if I picture a 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.400 scenario where I get told listen, Jen, we're going on 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:43.080 without you, you know, thank you for coming, and you know, 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.520 see you never that, I think that my ego would 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:46.360 be very bruised. 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.440 So I have a question, Yes, do you think it 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:51.239 would be different the way your ego would feel if 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.440 the whole show got rebooted versus some people staying in, 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:56.240 some people going yes, it would be different. 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:57.080 Yeah, I agree. 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:58.599 I mean that's just the truth, and I think that 0:05:58.680 --> 0:05:59.800 everyone would feel that way. 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:05.120 I mean, I I know for a fact that my 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.720 life is not just this show, because I've had a 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.600 long life. I had fifty three years before I got 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.640 onto The Housewives of New Jersey, and I will have 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.120 not that many, but hopefully a lot more, you know, 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.599 years after. And I know that I have a lot 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:22.359 of people in my life and things in my life 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.320 and things and people that I care about, and I 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.039 life will go on, and who knows, who knows what 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.719 the future holds, who knows what twists and turns my 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:34.560 ego will be separate from what my life looks like. 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.800 I know that I'm very blessed. I have a great life. 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.800 I have struggles, I have heartache, I have you know, 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.400 happy times, all of it. But I think it'll be 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.240 an ego problem for me. That's the biggest thing. And 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.520 I think I can overcome that though, right Like, it'll 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.600 be a while of how dare you? And was I? 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.440 Or was I not good enough? Or you know, why me? 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.240 And depending on how it all pans out, and then 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.240 I think my life will move on and I'll be 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.599 a hopefully you know, I'll be Jen Fessler and I 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.120 was happy before and fulfilled and I'll be happy and 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:09.880 fulfilled after. 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:11.840 Yeah, so I feel the same way. 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:16.080 Do you feel like your life potentially it could get 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:19.440 better once the show if you're not on the show, Like, 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:23.480 do you feel like there's do you see a path 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.760 where all of a sudden you're even more fulfilled and 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:27.880 you've it's easier than you thought to let go? 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.040 Well, you know, I think it's it's hard right now 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:35.360 because I didn't have a great season, and so coming 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.640 off of a season where I felt like it was 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.280 just I think anyone on our cast would tell you 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.480 that this season did not feel happy. There was no 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.960 joy in this season. There was no laughing. There was 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.080 so if you asked me a few years ago when 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.000 we all had a great time even after Ireland, like 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.400 the best time, I would have. 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:52.040 Been really sad. 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.440 Right now, I felt like I went through a lot 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.760 this season. I wasn't happy. I you know, I even 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:00.800 had to get rid of social media for a little while. 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.960 Social media was very mean to me. So right now 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:05.760 I'm at a little bit of a different place. But 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:10.440 that being said, I would like to I would like 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:12.280 to change. 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.360 Like where I left off. Do you know, like I 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:14.920 want one. 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.560 More season to like change that, you know, because I 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.960 feel like whatever, Like that's not me what people ended 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:25.600 up seeing, you know. So, but there are things that 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.440 I would have more time to put my if I'm 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:32.480 being honest, Like, my happiest thing is writing. I love writing, 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:34.640 and so obviously i'd have more time for writing. But 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.559 do I want to write full time? There's I think 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.319 that the true answer is there are a lot of 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.240 things I would miss and a lot of things I 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:43.120 wouldn't miss. 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:46.280 Interesting, I think I wonder how it's different like in 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:50.680 terms of reality stars versus celebrities. Right, So, like, let's 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:52.439 say a celebrity gets canceled. 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:54.959 I think that must be done. I wonder, I wonder, 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:56.560 I mean getting canceled. I don't. 0:08:56.720 --> 0:09:01.400 I can't imagine anything worse than everyone suddenly thinking that 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:02.240 you're horrible. 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:06.079 It's different, Right, So let's say if you go somebody's 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.280 off of reality show. That doesn't make necessarily mean that 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.439 everyone thinks that that that person is horrible. It's not 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.760 the same as getting canceled. But I wonder if you know, 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:15.520 even not celebrity, but but when something that you've been 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:19.440 doing for a long time you're so passionate about, everything ends, right, Jack, 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.280 Like doesn't matter what it is like at some point, 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.920 Jeff Wessler is not going to and that's his passion 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:28.120 is I don't know why, but it's being a corporate attorney. 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.880 So that's what turns him on. And you know, the 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.120 man is sixty two, and I guess at some point 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:35.800 if he doesn't leave, they're going to push him out. 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:36.240 He's not going to. 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.000 I don't see him being a seventy eight year old 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.280 corporate attorney. And then what does that look like? 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:40.680 Right? 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.280 And that's I mean, that's we're talking about retirement, but 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.439 also like how do you how does life change and 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.880 your identity and how much of identity. I've only been 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.840 doing this for two years. I can feel my identity 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.760 getting very wrapped up in it. Right. There's so much 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.920 now just in terms of being out in the world 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:00.520 and people recognizing me or fabulous opportunity and getting to 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.520 meet people that I would have never I don't been 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:02.839 able to. 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.880 That necessarily ends, to be honest with you, I think 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:07.720 once a housewife, always a house life. 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:08.800 Yeah for sure. 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:10.599 I mean, if like you ran into Bethany not to 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:12.959 mention any news, but like you wouldn't be like, oh, 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.480 the ex house Like she's just like you're a housewife. 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:16.600 You're a housewife, you know. 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:17.240 Yeah, But I don't. 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.000 And that's not even it's not like that's the app 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:20.960 I mean, that is so flattering an ice when people 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.840 recognize you. But I guess it's just you know, feeling 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.960 like you're just part of something and I don't know, 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.719 I don't know that adventure of it coming to an end. 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:31.920 But again, like we're talking about, there's bad stuff that 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:34.800 comes along with it too. It's that it's the brutal 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.880 social media of it all right, and it is, it 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:38.760 can be really brutal. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:40.960 It was, I know how horrible it's been. Even when 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.720 you feel like you're probably loved, I think that you 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:45.840 get a ton of hate. 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.800 Oh yeah, yeah, everybody gets a ton of hate. 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:49.400 Yeah. 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.640 Yeah, it's really sometimes that's really hard. That's one thing 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.480 I would not miss. But yeah, there are things that 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.880 I would miss. But I do also think with Bravo, 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.960 they love their own, do you know what I'm saying. 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.040 Like they're always bringing in new people, but I feel 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:08.079 like once you're a part of this world, they like recycled. 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.520 Yeah yeah, I mean there's there's. 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.400 Always there's other Bravo stuff, right, like one of I 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:15.040 know you've been through to a lot of them, but 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:19.559 this was my first Bravo con. It was completely surreal, 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.240 you know, and it was like just for me. First 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.800 of all, it was meeting these these women that I've 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:26.720 been watching for so many that's just the women. I mean, 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.079 I met, you know, the cast from I don't know, 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.520 Summer House or whatever, but like, meeting these people was 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:36.599 so crazy. And then all of a sudden, and I'm 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:38.280 sorry you guys, because I think I just say it 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.120 all the time. It's probably getting so boring. But for me, 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:44.000 everything is with this comes with like oh my god 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:48.640 at my age, because I think that it's extraordinary at 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:50.240 least it feels like that for me that at age 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:54.560 fifty three I had this, I've had this experience. But 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.040 you know, like so like the Bravo con of it 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.360 all or I don't know if Ultimate Girls Trip is 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.560 out even still a thing, but they do seem to 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.040 be bringing you know, a lot of the Bravo lebs 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.199 back in and they are getting other opportunities from traders 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:11.599 to villains to dance the bridge. Yeah right, try anybody, 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:15.040 try and keep your corporate lawyer in the office exactly. 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.520 But I think that's the you know what's interesting about 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.800 our podcast as we talk about middle aged women stuff, 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:24.200 so like to be a middle aged woman and to 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:28.679 suddenly have to shift your life career wise, right, yes, 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:32.319 you know it's different than when you're thirty two years 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:37.000 old like some of the newer housewives and like maybe 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:37.880 this doesn't pan out. 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.320 Okay, Well, you have babies at home, You're busy with 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.000 the babies. You know, like you could do. 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.800 Anything you got, you know, seventy years ahead of right, 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:46.520 it's different. 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.160 You're right, Well, that's yeah, that makes actually that is 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:54.880 actually feels very right ontography because I talk to my 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.280 kids and I talk to their friends, a lot of 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.440 their friends. Actually that are they'll come to me, I'm 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.439 looking for a job. Do you know anybody? Because everything 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.079 seemed feels like it's networking these days, right, and these 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.720 kids are so intense, and they've left college and right now, 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.840 you know, it's harder than ever. And I see these 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:14.600 distraught twenty somethings and I say to them, like, it's 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.320 all good. Like you are in your twenties, this is 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.440 the time for you to not have a job, find 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.400 a job, get fired from a job, get hired for 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:26.600 a new job, wait tables, bartend, find your dreach dream job, 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.400 have it not work out, go back to school, whatever 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.719 it is, right like that is at least that's Those 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.320 are my thoughts that in your twenties it's okay to 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.920 not have it all figured out. But once you're a 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:44.280 middle aged woman who's been given this unbelievably unique opportunity, 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:49.280 and I guess harder to picture like, okay, well listen, 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:50.760 that came, but something else will come. 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.640 Yes, it's easy to think this is it and like 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.559 nothing else will come because we're older now and it's 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.400 that whole thing that we talked about a few months ago. 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:02.280 It's like that invisible woman when you get into your 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:05.520 middle aged, you know, metopause years, you've become invisible, yeah, 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:07.920 to society, and it's easy to think that this was, 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:10.560 you know, a one in a million opportunity and that 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.360 nothing like this will come again, and that you're just 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:14.000 I guess. 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:15.920 That's it, like that, you know, that's what I think. 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.120 Using the mister Clean magic pad on your cabinets. I 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.720 don't and yeah, I don't get I don't believe my cabinets. 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:23.640 I carefully love that mister Clean magic. 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:24.400 But I think. 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.200 That's that's probably what's in the back of a lot 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:29.360 if I'm guessing, because it feels like that's what in 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.720 the back what's in the back of mine, like of 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.120 our of our psyche sEH. 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:33.960 I don't think like that. 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:34.760 I don't. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.680 I just think I think that. I I mean, I 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:37.960 don't know. 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:39.960 I'm just like we're as we're talking it through, like 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:44.080 maybe it's that I find it unlikely and that's sad 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.000 and maybe really not true, but that I could get 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:51.000 another opportunity at my age that's going to be as 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:53.239 I mean, would you really want to do another reaction? 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.000 I'm not even saying a reality show. I'm saying an 0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:00.440 opportunity that moves me. Like, if you ask me would 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.880 I like to host a talk show? Would I or 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.720 not even host? I don't know what I like to 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.280 interview people on the red carpet? 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:09.000 Would I like to? 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.120 I mean, there's a million things, but I guess in 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:13.920 my mind, because of my age, it feels very unlikely. 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:14.320 Yeah. 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:15.520 Right, it doesn't feel like. 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.280 They're going to be knocking at my door to be 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.400 the next host of Dancing with the Stars. 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:22.600 It's just not going to happen. 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:25.000 Right, Just break up with Tom Sandoval. That's all you 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:26.040 need to do, right. 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.600 Exactly exactly So, I mean, so maybe that's part of 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.400 what's so hard, you know, And housewives are they come 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.760 I guess at all ages now, but but the ones 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:38.360 that are not so young. Maybe that's what's hard about 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:40.800 it is thinking, you know. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:44.440 Yeah, do you feel like people age out? Like I 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.800 know Karen on Potomac is in her sixties. I don't know, 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:49.320 is there anyone else in their sixties? 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.880 I don't know. Do people age out? I don't know. 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:54.520 I don't know the answer to that. I mean, I 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.720 think a great housewife is a grace. Is like a 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.760 great housewife? Right, Like nobody's right. 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:07.560 Yeah, you're totally right. 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.840 So we have a best guest today because this man 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.920 has literally spoken to every house since the beginning of time, 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.680 and I am very interested on his take on how 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:23.360 people's lives just moved forward after the show. So our 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.160 guest today is Dave Quinn. 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:28.760 So Dave is a senior editor at People and he 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:33.520 works all across entertainment lifestyle news. So now I am 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.840 reading off of his bio is he joined in twenty 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.280 sixteen as a writer reporter, where he became known for 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:43.560 his Bravaval and Broadway exclusives across print and digital. A 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:48.720 housewives expert. But we do know him obviously from People magazine. 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.800 We also know him from a book that if you 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:55.040 haven't read, I would suggest run, not walk, to your 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:59.880 local bookstore or ordered up on Amazon to order Dave's book, 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.440 which is I feel like everybody knows it not all 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.679 diamonds and Rose and it is a deep dive into 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:07.280 everything housewives. 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.600 I mean, he gets into the nitty gritty. 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:11.600 I don't have to push this book because I feel 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:13.399 like everyone already knows about it, but just in case, 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.960 please please pick it up. If you're especially if you're 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:18.800 a Housewives fan, you will freak. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.040 Let's welcome Dave Yay. 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:22.240 Hello. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:27.920 Hi, Oh you look so cute with your hands. Great cat. 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:29.680 Thank you? How are my friends? 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:31.000 Hi, Dave Quinn. 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.680 We're good, so grateful to have you here today. 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.120 So, Jenna and I were just discussing the fact that, 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.640 you know, with Jersey on ice and no one knows 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.119 what's going to happen, we have the unique ability to 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.240 have a few months to kind of think about what 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.840 life might look like afterwards instead of having the rug 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:49.960 pulled out from under. 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.800 Us, or we might prepare for it and then bes back. 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:56.199 So knows, right, but we're really curious to talk about, 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:59.680