WEBVTT - EXCLUSIVE: NeNe Leakes Interview PT. 1

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King,

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<v Speaker 1>the King of Reality TV and one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten

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<v Speaker 1>years a production experience. Once a week from Reality with

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<v Speaker 1>the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows, every visit unforgettable

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<v Speaker 1>moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. This

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<v Speaker 1>has been years in the making. Yes, you have been

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<v Speaker 1>my most requested guest, so I started the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, people requested me everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Now everywhere, and I wanted to make sure it was

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<v Speaker 1>special when you came on the podcast. And one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate about you and I want the world to

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<v Speaker 1>know this MEMI is the one who said I want

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<v Speaker 1>to come on your podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I'm ready because you asked me in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I've asked in the past. She said, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>ready yet. And our friendship is not predicated on an

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<v Speaker 1>interview now at all. You mean the world to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Okay, don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I no, no, no, no, listen, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get this out before we start. You mean the world

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<v Speaker 1>to me. You really do and I can't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the emotional capacity to express to you right now

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<v Speaker 1>how much you mean to me. I adore you, I

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<v Speaker 1>love you. The first day we met, we clicked. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you had a quick weave and I had a ball faid.

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<v Speaker 1>We were both broke, but we were rich in happiness.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I used to say a happy day.

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<v Speaker 1>We were both struggling.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say broke because I was living in good

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<v Speaker 2>but we were making me was paycheck to paycheck, honey.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we were making It's me but all just aside.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say thank you for coming on reality

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<v Speaker 1>with the King. You made it on my list, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>no surprise, the number one greatest housewife of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>You built the Real Housewives franchise on your back, on

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<v Speaker 1>your eyelashes, your fingernail and your lace front. And at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, and I'm going to say

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<v Speaker 1>this publicly, there will not be a Real Housewives franchise

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<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't for you building the house that we

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<v Speaker 1>call the Real Housewives Atlanta. And you may not get

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<v Speaker 1>that every day, or you may not get that from

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who started day one with you. And I want

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<v Speaker 1>to use my platform to let the world know you

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<v Speaker 1>literally literally, you are the reason while we're able to

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy the franchise that we watched today. So I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>you to know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>She has manam Applaus for Lee. First question though, is this,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I am doing really well. I have come a long

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<v Speaker 2>ways because the first time you reached out to me

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<v Speaker 2>and asked me to come on the show, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not ready right now, I would have not been

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<v Speaker 2>good on the show. Today, I feel like I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>a very good place. I'm happy. I could always be happier,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm very happy, and I'm comfortable, and I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really okay.

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<v Speaker 1>No you, I bet you look good?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we start there?

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<v Speaker 2>Are well? Okay? I feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you look amazing, And I do want to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the first day we met. This was two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight. I left New York City. Yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine named Joy said, little girl, there's

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to go to Atlanta. My African was living

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta at the time, and she said it may

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<v Speaker 1>be called the Real Hospitals of Atlanta. Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do it? Because she knew I loved reality television,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, of course. And what people don't know

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<v Speaker 1>is as producers, you're a sign a reality star.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes who are?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was assigned you and Deshaun Snow, Yes you were.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first day I met you, I was enamored

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<v Speaker 1>with everything that you possessed. You were the quintessential star

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<v Speaker 1>and the first thing you said to me was Hey, bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>hag girl, Welcome to my house, bitch, and we instantly clicked.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that season that this show was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the biggest Bravo show that has ever been

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<v Speaker 1>on the network, and that you would be the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>star that Bravo has ever seen?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, I didn't know. I didn't even know what

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<v Speaker 2>we were doing, and I don't think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>us did, did you. I don't think we were just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like floating around. I remember, like three weeks

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<v Speaker 2>into filming, I said to myself at home, like I

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<v Speaker 2>just feel like I'm trying so hard and pushing and

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<v Speaker 2>not being myself that I am now gonna go on

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<v Speaker 2>camera and be me and be who I am. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's when everything took a turn. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like three weeks of shooting, and I said, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm being me. Like you know, I wasn't loose,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't myself. And I went home and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>the only way I'm gonna be able to do this

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<v Speaker 2>is that I just be nany leaks one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Just act like I act, talk the way I talk,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, do stuff the way I do it, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's the only way it's gonna work. And I just

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<v Speaker 2>came and started doing what I do and just talk

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<v Speaker 2>how I talk. And I was afraid to do that

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<v Speaker 2>because I thought people would be looking at me like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>she got a she's originally from Queens and luck we

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<v Speaker 2>see York with the Southern twain because I lived in

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia for so long since I was a kid, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought people wouldn't like the way that I

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<v Speaker 2>talked and all my southernness and just the things that

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<v Speaker 2>I would say.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you afraid that people call you ghetto?

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<v Speaker 3>I was never afraid of that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just that I just felt like I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have maybe the flare that some of the other girls had. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>these girls like Deshaun Snow was living in a fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>thousand square foot mansion.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm over here living in.

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<v Speaker 2>My little five thousand square foot place at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and charais living in a twelve thousand square foot house with.

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<v Speaker 1>A broken gate, Yeah, with a broken gate.

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<v Speaker 2>And Kim Zosiak was living off a big papa at

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<v Speaker 2>the time with all of her bracelets on. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like, well, dang, you know what am I

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<v Speaker 2>going to do? And I just decided that I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to just be me and we'll just see how

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<v Speaker 2>that works.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say this to you. The first day I knew

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<v Speaker 1>the show was a hit was we were at Charae's

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<v Speaker 1>house filming Chari's birthday party. Yes, and your arrived with

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<v Speaker 1>Kim after checking closed at the shell gas station and

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<v Speaker 1>we're filming, and you walked up to get in the house,

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<v Speaker 1>and the executive producer at the time, Kenny Hally, Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>Kenny, Hey Kenny.

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<v Speaker 1>You were like, hey, bitch, I got my little black

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<v Speaker 1>dress off, popping lips, buzzing. You walked up in the

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<v Speaker 1>house and got rejected from entering, and you broke the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth wall. You were the first person to break the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth wall. And you said, I'm a housewife. You see

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<v Speaker 1>these cameras following me, bitch, I need to be here,

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<v Speaker 1>and the security guard was like, I was told, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not on the list, you you could not come in.

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<v Speaker 1>And you went Ham and Cheese and then y'all went

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<v Speaker 1>to a restaurant called Twists afterwards, unless your ray have it.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a moment I knew this show was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a hit. Charay has admitted since then on

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<v Speaker 1>my podcast that she that she did purposely leave you

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<v Speaker 1>off the list.

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<v Speaker 2>I know she did.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that you know that, what would you like to

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<v Speaker 1>say to Chara?

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing, not a thing. Why would I give her any pointers?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? That's probably the best thing she did was

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<v Speaker 2>leave me off of the list, honestly, Like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>the show became like huge from that moment forward. But

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<v Speaker 2>I always knew she purposely left me off the list.

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<v Speaker 3>I always knew.

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<v Speaker 2>She purposely left me out the list. Now the question

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<v Speaker 2>would be why why leave me off the list? Honey?

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<v Speaker 2>Without me, there's no you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she said that you two weren't getting along at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and that she was, you know, following her

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<v Speaker 1>own reality. She was pressured by the producers to invite you,

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<v Speaker 1>and she felt like this is my home, I sanctuary

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<v Speaker 1>and if me and this girl are getting along, she

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<v Speaker 1>should not step up in my household.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a good thing that she was following her

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<v Speaker 2>own reality, which has taken her not far.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was the best thing she could have ever done.

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<v Speaker 2>Is left me off the list. I became bigger than ever.

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<v Speaker 2>So I appreciate that moment, Charay, Thank you. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>like Charain? You know, I don't dislike Charae, But for

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<v Speaker 2>some at one point, Sharay and I were like really

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<v Speaker 2>really good, like because we met before the cameras ever rolled.

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<v Speaker 2>I would hang out of her house, Greg and I

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<v Speaker 2>would go to the game with her, and Bob was

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<v Speaker 2>playing football at the time. For some reason, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>exactly sure what it is. It's like we haven't connected

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<v Speaker 2>or clicked in years, and I'm not as sure why.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really not sure why. I do feel like once

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<v Speaker 2>I started on the show, and I stayed on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was on and off the show for many seasons,

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<v Speaker 2>and the truth is I was the show and it

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<v Speaker 2>just felt like all of them just kind of turned

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<v Speaker 2>against me and we just a friendship just got lost

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<v Speaker 2>in the mix. But I think Charay is fun. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>when she wants to. We've had a good time together.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a Capricorn, I'm a Sagittarist. We always have gotten along,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in the past, before the cameras ever started rolling.

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<v Speaker 2>Once the camera started rolling, our friendship just became nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you surprised that fifteen years later, Charay is the

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<v Speaker 1>last standing og on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know about the last standing.

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<v Speaker 2>She's the last one they could get on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I mean there was nowhere else to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, it's the people that were the

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<v Speaker 2>stars of the show. You know, we're literally me and

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<v Speaker 2>Kim Zosia.

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<v Speaker 1>And you don't think Nini, Kim and Charae were the stars.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Charay play her role or play her part

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<v Speaker 2>in the show. I think I just don't think the

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<v Speaker 2>network of the production company really valued her that much.

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<v Speaker 2>They felt like, we don't really need her that much.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, she's not the most exciting person in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>but she has her little, you know parts that she

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<v Speaker 2>do on the show. That's whatever. But your question, again,

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<v Speaker 2>I have become very computer. What was the question.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's let's go back to season one. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you started off being the underdog.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the that's the word the underdogs. So it came

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<v Speaker 2>out together. Of course I was the underdog the first season.

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<v Speaker 2>I was the underdog. I wasn't sure if I would

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<v Speaker 2>be liked. I think Charae, along with Kim and the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the girls, thought, oh please, they're gonna love us,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and they're not gonna like her, and it

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't work like that.

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<v Speaker 3>They loved me and didn't like them.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you develop an ego after season one of their

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<v Speaker 1>housepots of Atlanta?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that people like to say like you've changed

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<v Speaker 2>over the years, where the thing is you're supposed to grow,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I every year you get older, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like I'm getting younger, and you learn from

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<v Speaker 2>your mistakes and you become more and more mature. And

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<v Speaker 2>also I think people try to say ego when the

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<v Speaker 2>cameras are watching you and all these people are pulling

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<v Speaker 2>you apart every single day, and you have no the

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<v Speaker 2>choice but to be like, oh my gosh, they just

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<v Speaker 2>pulled apart my wig, So now you go and try

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<v Speaker 2>to get the best wig, right, Oh my gosh, they

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<v Speaker 2>pulled apart my makeup. Now you're going to get the

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<v Speaker 2>best makeup artists. And then once you do all these things,

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<v Speaker 2>they say, change, What damn, you just pulled me completely apart.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to change in some ways, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. But I don't think there's an ego. You

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<v Speaker 2>just learn how to act, You learn what to say

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<v Speaker 2>and what not to say, that kind of stuff. But

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<v Speaker 2>I really worked hard on being myself because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like to be in situations where I can't be me.

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<v Speaker 2>When I'm not me, I'm not comfortable, you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>like to just be me, you know. And that's and

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm more liked when I'm being me.

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<v Speaker 2>I am less liked when I am like holding it

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<v Speaker 2>back and trying not to be Niini. So I just

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<v Speaker 2>I really sometimes I have to say to myself, like

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<v Speaker 2>be Nini now, you know, be Nini because Nini is

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<v Speaker 2>what people like.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think there's an ego.

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<v Speaker 2>I think with all of us girls, over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>we all change, we all get new eyes and new nose,

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<v Speaker 2>new tennies, new ass. I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we did it. People would be pulling us award literally,

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<v Speaker 2>be like she needs to get her body done and

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as you get it done, they're like, she

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<v Speaker 2>got her body done, what do you want me to do?

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<v Speaker 2>So you have to do something?

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<v Speaker 1>Is the When did you think things change on the

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<v Speaker 1>Real Housewives of Atlanta? Did you When did you feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>as an og we have the number one show as

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<v Speaker 1>Black Girls, which was a huge feat and I was

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<v Speaker 1>lucky to have a front row seat and that success.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you feel like the show was changing and

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<v Speaker 1>not what you started off as enjoying the show?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it started to really change probably like season

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<v Speaker 2>four for me. Season three is when they brought on

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<v Speaker 2>I think Cynthia and Phaedra, and I think Kenya think

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<v Speaker 2>came on or.

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<v Speaker 3>She came four.

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<v Speaker 1>Season three was faith okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, whenever Kenya came I was four or five. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what I think it changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Why, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think all these things started. So for instance, when

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<v Speaker 2>me and Lisa and Deshaun and Charie all of us started,

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<v Speaker 2>they were our real husbands and our real boyfriend. Charay

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<v Speaker 2>was really married to Bob and they really were going

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<v Speaker 2>through a divorce. DeShawn was really married to Eric and

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<v Speaker 2>they started to have their issues.

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<v Speaker 3>Lisa was really with what's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying at Hartwell at heartwell, I was really with Greg

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<v Speaker 2>and Kim was really with Big Papa. Our stories were real.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything we talked about and did was real. When we

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<v Speaker 2>had disagreements, they were real. We didn't pretend like we

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<v Speaker 2>had a boyfriend and we didn't have one. I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I think once Kenya came on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>saying that Kenya started it or did it, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying at that moment it was, it started to be

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<v Speaker 2>let's create our storyline. Well, we didn't create a storyline.

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<v Speaker 2>We just showed up to work and just was filming

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<v Speaker 2>and being who we are. They started having boyfriends and

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't really their boyfriends and they that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, changed the dynamic of the show. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>if you didn't have a boyfriend, you just didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a boyfriend, And that's how it should have been shot,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe now looking back as far as reality is concerned, like, shoot,

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<v Speaker 2>it is what it is like. Don't try to create

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<v Speaker 2>things like we want to see your dating life.

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't have a freaking date?

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<v Speaker 2>So then shoot that I don't have a day, opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to putting pressure on me to go out and find

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<v Speaker 2>some random dude that I'm really not dating. I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>not into just the police production. Why don't you guys

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<v Speaker 2>feel me looking for a date or talking on the

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<v Speaker 2>phone to some guy just been talking to it for

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks, rather than making me pretend I'm

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<v Speaker 2>out on a date with somebody. I thought things start

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<v Speaker 2>to change right about then? Can you go with us

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<v Speaker 2>to South Africa?

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<v Speaker 1>No? So that was the thing, sos No, that was

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<v Speaker 1>season five? So okay, season four was South Africa and

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<v Speaker 1>mar it was you, Charree, Cynthia, Phedra Candy. Yeah, mama

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<v Speaker 1>is saying anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>It was Marlow, Marlow went to Africa Marlow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then Kim Kim was sell on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>But she didn't go to ACA and go to Africa.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, you didn't go to any trips.

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<v Speaker 1>No, So you think Kenya changed the direction of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Show, I think, you know, I hate to say she

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<v Speaker 2>was the one that actually changes, but to me, that's

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<v Speaker 2>when things started to change, right about.

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<v Speaker 1>This in a negative way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I felt like people started to create storylines and

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<v Speaker 2>pretend to have boyfriends and all of those things. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, does not make for a good reality show.

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<v Speaker 2>I think reality shows are exactly what it says reality

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<v Speaker 2>what is really happening. And I think everybody started to

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<v Speaker 2>change then now prior to her, I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I may get some of my seasons mixed up. Prior

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<v Speaker 2>to her. I think Phaedra and Cynthia were on prior

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<v Speaker 2>to started to not want to show like you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she showed her.

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<v Speaker 2>Pregnancy because she was pregnant the whole time, but she

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't sure about how far along she was, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of those kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of things in the hood, we don't know who they're

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant by long.

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<v Speaker 2>They are exactly you said, So those things, to me

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<v Speaker 2>start to make the show not be what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought about it that way.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how I feel about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, you know, when we first started, all

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<v Speaker 2>the things we were doing were just for real. They

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<v Speaker 2>were just for real. What were happening in our lives

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<v Speaker 2>was really happening in our lives. Even on season two,

0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:53.000
<v Speaker 2>they were really happening in our lives. I think season

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<v Speaker 2>three we start to get a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>check because you know, the first two three season we

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<v Speaker 2>weren't getting nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Honey, how much did you make your first season of

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta house I think my.

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<v Speaker 2>First season on Housewives, I made ten thousand total total.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a second, you filmed for three months on the

0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.920
<v Speaker 1>first season of The Real Housewives Atlanta and you made

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I believe if I'm not mistaken, then I can

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<v Speaker 2>go back and check, cause it's sure.

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<v Speaker 3>New one twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>We did a reunion and I think they gave us

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand for the reunion. So we had very little money.

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<v Speaker 2>So for all the people, there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>that say a lot of stuff, they just don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what they're talking about. Season one, we didn't make any money.

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<v Speaker 2>We filmed that show and it was we knocked it

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<v Speaker 2>out the park and we didn't get anything. Season two

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't get anything. I want to say Season two

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<v Speaker 2>we got probably about maybe fifty thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Season two, Season two fifty and then season three is

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<v Speaker 1>when you see Season three.

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<v Speaker 2>We moved to an attorney. All of us came together,

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<v Speaker 2>got the same attorney, and we wanted to have favored nation,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think we got one hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>And you Chemischer made the same. Season three, Yeah, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 2>It was maybe at the most one point fifty we

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<v Speaker 2>started to make a bag season maybe four, season four, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>going back, but we knocked the show out the park.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you understand those first three years, Yes, and we

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<v Speaker 2>were not getting real money at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Now okay, yeah, wow, I didn't know that. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that. Do you think you getting underpaid was because

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<v Speaker 1>at that time you girls were so new to this

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<v Speaker 1>you just didn't know. Yes, just didn't know very much.

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<v Speaker 2>So and also when they say housewivese we all were

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<v Speaker 2>real housewise for real, none of us really worked. Our

0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:02.040
<v Speaker 2>husband's were the one that were working. We were really housewives,

0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:05.359
<v Speaker 2>stay at home moms with the kids. I think Charay

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<v Speaker 2>had a boutique at some point. Deshaun Lemy she had

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<v Speaker 2>her foundation or whatever it is, and she was doing

0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.680
<v Speaker 2>and whatever the little stuff was. But we were real housewives,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I think for us, we were just excited

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<v Speaker 2>to be out filming and doing something. That's what That's

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<v Speaker 2>how I felt about it. I was just happy to

0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.399
<v Speaker 2>be out doing something. So when you see all of

0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:27.760
<v Speaker 2>us dressing and all those events that we had, we

0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:29.280
<v Speaker 2>paid for those out of our pockets.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of our pockets.

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<v Speaker 1>Going back to season three, So the first two seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, ratings go lord, ratings increased, breaking records.

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<v Speaker 1>Season one, you guys were mentioned on Saturday Night Live.

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<v Speaker 1>This show was a pop culture Phenomenon season three came in,

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<v Speaker 1>you had Cynthia and Peter in addition to Phadrian Apollo.

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<v Speaker 1>You and Cynthia did not know each other, And correct

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<v Speaker 1>me if I'm wrong. You were told to hang out

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<v Speaker 1>with Cynthia to get to know her to bring her

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<v Speaker 1>in on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, So the producers showed me they were looking

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<v Speaker 2>at a new girl named is Cynthia.

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<v Speaker 3>They love for me to go out with her.

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<v Speaker 2>She and I decided to go out to like a

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<v Speaker 2>lunch or dinner or something, and I remember we went

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<v Speaker 2>to Papado's and I remember Cynthia being like super nervous, like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, oh my god, this is sneemy leaks,

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<v Speaker 2>and and we went to find Do you know who

0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:33.440
<v Speaker 2>she was? I did not. I'd never heard of her

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<v Speaker 2>before she was a supermodel. I still had not heard

0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:37.679
<v Speaker 2>of her. The only super misa I heard of was

0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Naomi and Tyra and maybe a couple of other black

0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:43.840
<v Speaker 2>girls Beverly, But I had never heard of Cynthia.

0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, she was on the Cosby Show too.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see it. Okay, y'all try it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you she saw.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the truth. I believe you.

0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:03.520
<v Speaker 1>So you so so. Cynthia Belly the supermodel. She was

0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:04.520
<v Speaker 1>star struck when she.

0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:08.159
<v Speaker 2>Met you and rightly so okay, So how did I

0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:08.320
<v Speaker 2>go on?

0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Papa does and Papa does?

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<v Speaker 3>We clicked.

0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I liked her. I think she liked me. I felt

0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.000
<v Speaker 2>like she was a little nervous. I didn't think that

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:23.199
<v Speaker 2>she was like housewife material, just being honest, and I

0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:25.040
<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, she's a little quiet, she's a

0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:27.040
<v Speaker 2>little this. I don't know that she is the one

0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:29.800
<v Speaker 2>that you guys are looking for. But I really enjoyed

0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:32.040
<v Speaker 2>her and I liked her. And that was before I

0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:32.520
<v Speaker 2>met Peter.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, when you met Peter, what do you think of him?

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<v Speaker 2>When I met Peter, I thought too much, too much,

0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:47.960
<v Speaker 2>he was doing it too much. I was like, oh, okay,

0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:51.080
<v Speaker 2>I see why y'all like Cynthia now because he was

0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:53.199
<v Speaker 2>turned up. You know, he had like a club in

0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:56.800
<v Speaker 2>downtown Atlanta, I think it's called Uptown or something like that,

0:22:57.400 --> 0:23:01.680
<v Speaker 2>and he was just extremely like aggressive to me and

0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:04.359
<v Speaker 2>just you know, loud, and I was just like, oh

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:07.640
<v Speaker 2>my god, like Cynthia is you know, this is her guy?

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, I got why they liked Cynthia because

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Peter was extra.

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:19.000
<v Speaker 1>If Cynthia was not with Peter Thomas, would she have

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<v Speaker 1>been a housewife.

0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:23.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so, I don't. I just don't think

0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:25.679
<v Speaker 2>not that she couldn't because I know Cynthia. I know

0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 2>the Cynthia in front of the camera, and I know

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Cynthia that's not on camera, and so I feel like,

0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:34.000
<v Speaker 2>definitely the Cynthia that's not on camera has the strength

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:37.879
<v Speaker 2>and she's vocal enough to be on the show for

0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:41.399
<v Speaker 2>sure without Peter. But on camera, I felt like she

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:44.880
<v Speaker 2>never really wanted to show that side of her because

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:50.040
<v Speaker 2>of listen, Cynthia can she can read and she can.

0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 3>Now I'm the one that told you.

0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Guys on camera, I said, no, no, no, no, no, no,

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Cynthia doesn't read honey. Cynthia reads honey. And so I

0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:02.120
<v Speaker 2>know Cynthia and I know what she does. So yes,

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Cynthia's pretty fire. And let me tell you, she put

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Peter in his place many days.

0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:09.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, I've been witness of that. She would cuss

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Peter out.

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes she would, and people would be like, oh, Peter,

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:15.560
<v Speaker 2>she just running over Cynthia. Cynthia, who that's not the

0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Citia we know?

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Pick him out the house.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Cynthia would get me the together.

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:22.959
<v Speaker 1>Yes, he had to sleep at bar one over, get

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:23.439
<v Speaker 1>him together.

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:25.040
<v Speaker 3>I know Cynthia very well.

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<v Speaker 1>When you saw Peter, this chocolate gorgeous man, were you

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 1>ever attracted to Peter?

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Never? Never attracted to Peter, never had any I don't

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:38.480
<v Speaker 2>think we. I think people wanted to think that Peter

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:40.720
<v Speaker 2>and I like had some sort of attraction. We never

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:44.120
<v Speaker 2>had anything. If anything. It was more like I don't

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:46.400
<v Speaker 2>like you and he was pretty much like I don't

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 2>like you. We kind of more like bumped heads more

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:52.919
<v Speaker 2>than like saw I to eye and we still do

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:53.439
<v Speaker 2>that today.

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Phaser came on this season with a poll up.

0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.800
<v Speaker 1>This is season three. Yes, did you think Faser was

0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:01.160
<v Speaker 1>good for the show starting out?

0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 2>But listen, I mean listen. It's not like they should

0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 2>listen to me. Honestly, you know I started on the

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 2>show not on day one. I shot the pilot for

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:14.479
<v Speaker 2>Real Housewives of Atlanta, So I feel like I shot

0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:17.159
<v Speaker 2>season one and then shot season one again. Because we

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:20.240
<v Speaker 2>actually shot a whole pilot shopped at which people have

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 2>never seen before, and then we started the season one

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 2>with new girls, which were it was Me, Charay and

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Kim always in the pilot, and then we started with

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Deshaun and Lisa, but in the pilot.

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 3>Deshon and Lisa.

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Were not in our pilot that we shot. So I

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 2>think that when you hear me talk about the show,

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:41.360
<v Speaker 2>I talk about the show in a more personal way

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:43.879
<v Speaker 2>because I feel more connected to it and I feel

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:46.879
<v Speaker 2>more like, you know, like it's my baby. And I

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 2>always from day one one to see the show win,

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:51.360
<v Speaker 2>and I wanted to see us succeed, and I wanted

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:53.639
<v Speaker 2>to see all of us make money and things like that.

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 2>So when certain people were coming around the show, obviously

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I had my personal opinions about it, and they were

0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:04.680
<v Speaker 2>just my opinions. I didn't make the decisions. No, when

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 2>I saw Phaede, I didn't think that she was right

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:10.200
<v Speaker 2>for the show. I had known favor from back in Athens,

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 2>and I felt some kind of way that she was

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 2>coming on the show. Why I just did again it

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 2>was my baby, and I just felt like, what is

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 2>she doing here?

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:21.879
<v Speaker 1>You didn't feel like she deserved to be a housewife

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:25.360
<v Speaker 1>because the Real Housewives of Atlanta, and let's really talk

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:30.920
<v Speaker 1>about this for real, the Real Housewives of Atlanta was

0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:33.680
<v Speaker 1>It was a privilege to be a part of that show,

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 1>and all of the girls in Atlanta wanted to be

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 1>a part of it. It did and a lot of yeah,

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:41.400
<v Speaker 1>this is no disrespect. There's a lot of thirsty people

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta, and when we were at parties and events,

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 1>they would fight for camera time. These people who never

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:52.399
<v Speaker 1>were even cast to be on the show. It was

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 1>very privileged to be a part of it. Do you

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>feel like Phaedra did not represent at that time what

0:26:58.880 --> 0:26:59.639
<v Speaker 1>the show was about.

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:03.199
<v Speaker 2>No, it wasn't even that. I think that back to

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 2>what you were saying, we were being talked about everywhere

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 2>with a lot of people don't understand when the Real

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Housewives of Atlanta are unsembled lunch.

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 3>There was no love and hip hop.

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.919
<v Speaker 2>There was no Basketball wives, no Hollywood exits, no Braxton shows,

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 2>no none of that. We were the first black ensemble

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 2>in a very long time that had hit television. You know.

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Prior to that, they had Flavor of Love and whatever.

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:29.400
<v Speaker 2>All those shows were those kind of shows. But those

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 2>shows had fizzled out. Those shows weren't on. The things

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 2>that were on were like the Osbournes.

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 3>And things like that.

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:39.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Hills, the Kardashians were not on yet, and

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I think that people really forget when they look back.

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 2>We launched that reality platform and held that door open

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 2>for all of these Black Unsemble shows to walk in

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:54.440
<v Speaker 2>that door. There was never any of them before there

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 2>was us. We were first and people everybody wanted to

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 2>be and we were shooting all over Atlanta. Everybody was

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 2>talking about us, from Ellen Degenereses to Oprah Winfree to

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:07.479
<v Speaker 2>Gail to everybody you can think of.

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy found They.

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:12.879
<v Speaker 2>All talked about fure Maxazine, I was everybody was talking

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:18.360
<v Speaker 2>about the Real Housewives of Atlanta. And so again, it

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 2>was a privilege to be on this show. And so

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I always felt some kind of way when certain girls

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 2>were like, oh, I want to be on Housewives, I

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, what's she coming over here for? Like,

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:30.360
<v Speaker 2>we worked so hard, you know, to We started out

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 2>with one van, and so we were so hard and

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:36.119
<v Speaker 2>we got multiple bands and camera crews. We didn't have

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 2>any of that stuff to start with.

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>And so I'm telling you we were a low budget production.

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 2>We were, and so when I saw Page, I was like,

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 2>she's from Athens, Like, what is she doing up here?

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm from Athenes. She don't come over here and try

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 3>to steal my thought.

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 2>I just felt like I was just protecting, you know,

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 2>my area and my space.

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>She was a high powered attorney, she was.

0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:00.080
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, I just didn't feel that way. I do know

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 2>that she's a high powered attorney. I know she's super funny.

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 2>I like Favor a lot, But I'm just saying at

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 2>that time, at that moment, I was just like, no,

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 2>she shouldn't be here.

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Obviously, Like you said earlier, you started out being real,

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>being yourself. You and Greg may he rest in peace.

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, I love him, call him dad all the time.

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Hey father, You guys gave so much to the show,

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 1>gave so much to it. You have Bryson and brand

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 1>you gave and your auntie who raised you. T T T.

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 3>Yes.

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you regret putting your family business on the show.

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm a reality show, I'm a TV personality, right and

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 2>I try to give everything I can give and I

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 2>just don't see no other way of doing it. But

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 2>there are certain things that I do regret. Okay, I

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 2>do regret. I disciplined. My son wants on camera that

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 2>everybody goes back and say over, no, you don't.

0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 3>Lost your damn mind. You know, like that really hurt.

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 2>My son's feelings, and I, you know, I don't want

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 2>to hurt my children in the process of doing something

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 2>that I want to do, so I wish I could

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 2>take that moment back. And I also when Greg and

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 2>I went through our divorce, I wish that we hadn't

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 2>put so much out there because we ended up getting

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 2>back together. And when we were getting back together, we

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 2>both were feeling kind of awkward, like, Okay, well we're

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 2>going to tell people that we back together because we

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 2>went through a whole divorce and you know, said all

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 2>kinds of shit. So yeah, there are certain things that

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 2>I wish I had not put out there, but they

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 2>out there that.

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:41.160
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0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the show. Bryceon was recently in the news yes with

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 1>alleged things of fentanyl, alleging that he got caught by

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>the cops and said his name was Brent Leaks. How

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 1>is Bryson doing.

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I spoke to him on the phone. I think he's

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 2>doing okay. He needs rehabilitation. He needs a lot of counseling.

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 2>Like many families out there, I have family members that

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 2>are struggling with drugs and certain addictions, and he has

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 2>an addiction. He's been struggling with it for years. He's

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 2>been in rehab for a couple of times and he

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 2>still have come back out and relapsed. I have a

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 2>brother that's an attic. I have a close cousin that's

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 2>an addict. So unfortunately for us, our family, there's just

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 2>been certain people that have been addicted to certain things

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 2>and it's a real struggle. And as a mom, just

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 2>to watch it is my hands are tied.

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 2>He is thirty one years old, he's an adult. He

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 2>has three children, three beautiful children who I adore. He

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 2>has a wife. It's not much that I can do

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 2>for people who have had children or family members that

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 2>have been on drugs.

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 3>They know that they have to be ready. They have

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 3>to simply be ready.

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, I've spent so much money on trying to

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 2>get Bryson, you know where he needs to be. But

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 2>every time I've sent him off, it is because I said,

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 2>you are getting your ass up and we are sending

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 2>you off. But I learned through canceling myself that he

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 2>has to say I am ready to go, not me

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:53.719
<v Speaker 2>making him go. So until Bryson is ready to make

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 2>a change.

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 3>It's nothing I can do as a mother.

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 2>I will never wash my hands of my child, right,

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 2>but I'm kind of numb to it because it's been

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 2>happening for so many years. I'm just really kind of

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 2>numb to the situation.

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:11.359
<v Speaker 1>And do you think so? I want to go deep

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>here in terms of kids being raised under the guise

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:22.359
<v Speaker 1>of television, whether it's acting, reality TV, singing. Obviously your

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 1>children were brought up on reality television, being famous because

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>their mom is famous. Yes, Do you think Bryson being

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 1>famous and dealing with being on television, all those things

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 1>affected his ability to be the adult you wanted him

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>to be. Did to contribute to the drug usage and

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>those things.

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't have to say I don't think

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 2>it helped, but I wouldn't say this the sole cause

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 2>of it. It certainly didn't help because we started on

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 2>television when Bryson was like in the eleventh or twelfth

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 2>grade and Brent was in third grade, And so they're

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 2>having to be in a light shine, a light shine

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 2>on them that they did not ask for. Like I

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 2>grew up in high school, I just grew up, and

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I made all my mistakes and I didn't have to

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 2>worry about people picking them apart. Well, they people are

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 2>picking them apart because of the job that I chose

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:22.280
<v Speaker 2>to do, and so I feel for them in that way.

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 2>But there's just issues that he has. And I don't

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 2>know addiction, because I don't have an addiction, you know,

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.400
<v Speaker 2>I just know from what people have said to me.

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think it has one hundred percent to

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 2>do with it, but it certainly does not help it

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 2>being in the public guide.

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Did being on TV affect your marriage to Greg?

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it affected my marriage to Greg, because again Greg

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 2>loved me for me and he knew me for who

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I was. And also my husband was the breadwinner. In

0:35:56.600 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 2>my case, I wasn't working and he made the money.

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:03.919
<v Speaker 2>And once I started to make more money than him,

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 2>he started looking at me like sideways, like oh, who

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 2>she thinks she is? Because I no longer had to

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:11.239
<v Speaker 2>ask him for money, I no longer had to ask

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:13.399
<v Speaker 2>him for anything. If I wanted to go and buy

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:15.839
<v Speaker 2>the lady's bag, I just going by the lady's bag.

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 2>And so I think that I pulled some of his

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 2>strength or his power or something. I don't know it,

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 2>just as a man It didn't make him feel great

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 2>that I was making more money than him.

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>No, it doesn't. The thing is this, and I want

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 1>to talk about how women who are the breadwinner become

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the bread winner after being married for so long. And

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the foundation was the man took care of me and

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the household. The rose reversed. It's difficult for a man

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:47.399
<v Speaker 1>to accept that, and we're seeing that on a lot

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 1>of reality TV shows and even with celebrities. Greg had

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>a very hard time dealing with the fact that you

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 1>no longer had to ask permission for stuff, and that

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 1>not only were you able to do your own thing,

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 1>you were able to do it in a grand scale,

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 1>which is very unique. Hindsight is twenty twenty. Do you think,

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 1>as you were going through this you are masculating him

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 1>in any way?

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:22.799
<v Speaker 2>I probably did. I probably did not intentionally, I probably did.

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, my mouth probably was smarter, you know, I

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.320
<v Speaker 2>probably was up in his face a little bit tougher

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 2>because you know, I could take care of myself. So

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I probably did in many ways.

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.799
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, yeah, one thing.

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 2>My husband, excuse me, Greg is from Atlanta, born and raised,

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 2>and he is the true definition of an og and

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 2>so he felt like his role as the husband and

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 2>the head of the household was to take care of

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 2>his family, and in a sense, I took some of

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 2>that role away from him.

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:55.280
<v Speaker 3>Greg is old school.

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 2>He's with opening up the door, and he's with all

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:00.879
<v Speaker 2>the things that allowed the old school guys would do.

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 3>He's here for, you know, help raising.

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:08.320
<v Speaker 2>His kids, and he's just an old school guy. And

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 2>me making more money than him and not needing him.

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I literally did not need him at one point to

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 2>not even put a light bulb up. I would just

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:17.720
<v Speaker 2>put it up myself where I called somebody to do it,

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 2>like I thought in my mind, I was just making

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:25.720
<v Speaker 2>our life easier. But I was taking things rolls away

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 2>from him, as you know, the man the head of

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 2>the household.

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 1>And listen, I may get a lot of flack for this,

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 1>but it's fine, but I would love to get your opinion.

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I do feel like when women start to make money,

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:44.760
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately they start to emasculate their man in a very

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 1>subtle way and sometimes unintentionally. Every man wants to feel

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.439
<v Speaker 1>like you need him, Yes they do. Every man wants

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 1>to feel wanted. Yes, I know a person who purposely

0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 1>pretends like she does know how to do certain things

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 1>because she wants her man to feel like, you know,

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:07.400
<v Speaker 1>oh you need me, and she makes more money than him,

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 1>but she does. You're like, oh my god, how do

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I I have to put my card and drive?

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how the time? Well, you know what

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:14.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:18.359
<v Speaker 1>It's certain things because she wants to feel like I

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>do need you. Do you feel like sometimes when a

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 1>woman makes more money than her man that they feel

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 1>they need to take on this boss role. And I'm

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:29.359
<v Speaker 1>a boss and I'm independent and I don't need no man.

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's what happens and men get upset.

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I felt that way. I honestly thought

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 2>I listen. I love love, I love a relationship. I

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:42.280
<v Speaker 2>love to make my man feel great. I just didn't

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:45.359
<v Speaker 2>know that I was taking those things away from him.

0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I wish I knew better. I just didn't know that

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 2>I was doing that. I do know better now, but

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 2>I did not know that I was doing that at all.

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 1>And when you were going through the divorce, I'll never

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 1>forget this. I was doing your interview. This is season four,

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 1>you and Greek are going through the divorce. A lot

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>of people assumed that Ninni got famous, she's rich, she's

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 1>on Celebrity Apprentice, she's doing it, and she wants to

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>see how the grass is green on the other side.

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna get that in a second. I remember

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 1>the day you on a life for a divorce and

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I was with you, devastated. You were devastated. You called

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 1>me to your bedroom, and if you know Nini leaks,

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 1>you are not allowed to go to her bedroom or

0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:38.240
<v Speaker 1>her closet. As we've seen on season eleven, I think

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:42.759
<v Speaker 1>she called me to her bedroom and you said Carlos

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>were divorced, and you were so sad, and you were devastated.

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 1>And I wanted people to know that, because you do

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>have this reputation of oh, she's this tough girl, very strong.

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:03.399
<v Speaker 1>You were devastated that your marriage came to an official end.

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:07.359
<v Speaker 1>And you said to me, do not tell anybody, and

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:10.439
<v Speaker 1>I said, I will never and you said, I will

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:13.759
<v Speaker 1>tell the producers myself. And you did it a week later.

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:16.240
<v Speaker 1>And I kept her a secret for a week because

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I knew that you have to allow a person to

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:24.719
<v Speaker 1>go through the motions. When you were going through that,

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:28.760
<v Speaker 1>what was going through your mind because people thought, Okay,

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 1>you're unhappy you're free, but you didn't feel free in

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:34.320
<v Speaker 1>that moment.

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:39.279
<v Speaker 2>I knew that people. I knew that people thought I

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.399
<v Speaker 2>was a strong one and that I was the one

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:43.919
<v Speaker 2>probably Boston Greg around, and I probably was the one

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 2>that was doing whatever it was. Greg and I relationship

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 2>is very much like Cynthia and Peter. Most people think

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 2>that it's Peter in any case with him and Cynthia,

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 2>and so most people thought it was me, But it

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:59.320
<v Speaker 2>was actually very the opposite Greg. Although it was very quiet,

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:04.240
<v Speaker 2>he was very strong, and people had no idea that Greg,

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 2>like Cynthia, could really gather you and get you really

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:09.719
<v Speaker 2>together and then turn right around and smiled and be

0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:12.360
<v Speaker 2>like a hi. He was very nice, nasty when he

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be, and he was like any other man.

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 2>He did things that me, being a wife, did not

0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:22.880
<v Speaker 2>appreciate her like. But I know everybody would think it

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 2>would be me. I was devastated getting a divorce. I

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 2>felt like I had to show Greg and teach him

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:30.439
<v Speaker 2>a lesson. And the only lesson that Greg was gonna

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>get it was for me to divorce him. And I

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:34.000
<v Speaker 2>was gonna have to carry it all the way through.

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 2>And when I carried it all the way through. I

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 2>would never forget. Greg called me on the phone. He said,

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:46.960
<v Speaker 2>you bitch, you divorced me. And I like, cause Greg

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 2>could get you good, baby, will get you right in

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:52.920
<v Speaker 2>a corner somewhere and gather you right up. He said,

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:57.359
<v Speaker 2>you bitch, you divorced me, and I was like, I

0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 2>had to show your ass. And so you know, our

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 2>relationship wasn't any different than any other couple. I was

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 2>devastated getting a divorce. I came from a home where

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have my mother or my father in my life,

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 2>and I really wanted to have my kids in the

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:13.080
<v Speaker 2>two parent household.

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 3>That's what I wanted.

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 2>But I also knew that I wanted to be happy,

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 2>and Greg and I were just at a crossroad where

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 2>we just couldn't see our way out of it at

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 2>the time.

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:25.800
<v Speaker 1>You then started dating John.

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:30.399
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I talked to John last night. Really, yes I did.

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:31.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh is he he's doing?

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 2>But he actually called me about Bryce. He said, I

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 2>heard what happened to Bryce, and I just want you

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 2>to know that I will put him in a rehabilitation

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 2>center in New York and I will pay for it.

0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:45.800
<v Speaker 1>And what did you say?

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:47.360
<v Speaker 3>Soon as he get.

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:52.720
<v Speaker 2>Out grabbing take him also, you know, not just saying John,

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but because we're talking about heim. But lamar

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Odam also called me and said that he would grab

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Bryce right away and send him to his place. He

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 2>has a rehabilitation place somewhere. So I've gotten calls from

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 2>people in support because you know, honestly, it's nothing I

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:09.719
<v Speaker 2>can do. My hands a tide. I don't know what

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 2>else to do. And so John Calladge called me last night.

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 2>I won't tell you everything he said, honey, but he

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 2>sure did tell me start off the conversation, my honey,

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 2>he will get gather Bryson. He will pay for it,

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:24.360
<v Speaker 2>all of it himself, and he will send bricon to

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 2>a place that he know in upstate New York.

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:28.959
<v Speaker 1>Please make that happen.

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think I got to go on a date

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 2>with him.

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 1>But okay, do you still have the rot you?

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 3>I sure do, I warn he today, I have it

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 3>in a dressing room.

0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, if you can break it off for a second.

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Place, No, we'll show it.

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, I haven't.

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:53.000
<v Speaker 1>What was it like dating John when you before the

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:55.759
<v Speaker 1>job thing? What was it like being single? Because you

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 1>you weren't you were married for so long.

0:44:58.640 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I was with Grant and my twins.

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:03.840
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing like dating again when you got money.

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's different.

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:05.720
<v Speaker 1>It is different.

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:08.360
<v Speaker 3>It is very different, and it's good it is.

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like the law of attraction. You start attracting people

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:15.480
<v Speaker 1>to you who may have the same things, are more

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 1>than you. Yes, and it feels fun and feel sexyes

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 1>between those girls. Did you enjoy it?

0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 2>You know it was? I would have to say for me, Carlos,

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:29.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm a relationship person, So I don't know many times

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 2>in my life where I've been just free and single.

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 3>Most men want me so.

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:38.759
<v Speaker 2>Right away I have been a relationship. I don't stay

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 2>sing along. So right after I got broken up with Greg,

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:46.879
<v Speaker 2>shortly after I met I went on Celebrity Apprentice, which

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:49.879
<v Speaker 2>is where I met John Collage and then we ended

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 2>up being in a relationship. I really am a relationship person.

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't get a chance to date that often. I

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 2>go right into it. I really want to know what

0:45:57.400 --> 0:45:59.880
<v Speaker 2>dating is like. I would love to do it. I

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 2>just don't think I've ever really had that happen in

0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 2>my life. In high school, I had a boyfriend. In college,

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 2>I had a boyfriend. Right out of college, I had

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 2>a boyfriend. And right after that I met Gray. Like

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 2>I've always been in a relationship.

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:12.839
<v Speaker 1>When you were dating John and figuring things out, did

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:15.360
<v Speaker 1>you think, Okay, I got a guy who wants to

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 1>buy me row Lexus and buy me red bottles and

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 1>buy me in the world.

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Maybe this is what I should have. Yeah, sure, I

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:26.759
<v Speaker 2>wanted to. I would love to date men who have

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 2>more money than me. And John had way more money

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:32.440
<v Speaker 2>than I had, and I didn't have to spend my money.

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I could spend all of his and he would not

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 2>even miss it because he had so much money. It

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 2>was ridiculous. And I thought, oh my god, this is

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 2>so fun. I get to buy anything I want to buy.

0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:42.720
<v Speaker 2>I get to do anything I want to do, travel

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 2>anywhere I want to travel. So it was fun, like

0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:49.440
<v Speaker 2>you for the moment, yes, but he didn't fulfill me

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 2>in all the other areas. But his pockets filled up

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:59.800
<v Speaker 2>my closet. I live honey for his shopping sprees.

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 1>It was fun.

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 2>There was no limit, pick up anything you and if

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 2>you were my friend and you were with me, he said,

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 2>you get you something too. It was amazing being with him.

0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 2>I loved it was like a fairy tale. It was

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 2>so fun. But other than that, after that, like we

0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 2>were like, what do we have? Yeah, we didn't have

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 2>anything though, Yeah, we had a lot of shopping. I

0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 2>would I you know, we had to get into my

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 2>dating life later. Go on.

0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 1>No, I was just gonna say, And just like me

0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and you, we got back together with our exes at

0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:34.760
<v Speaker 1>the same time you got married. I did your wedding special.

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 1>We got to we got to a fight moments before

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 1>she walked down the aisle. You remember that, I do,

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 1>so Nini was getting married. It was my first executive

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:54.920
<v Speaker 1>producer credit doing her wedding special, and Niini I stopped

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:57.160
<v Speaker 1>me and the producers and the camera people and said,

0:47:57.239 --> 0:47:58.080
<v Speaker 1>leave me alone.

0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 3>Yes, well I would say leave me alone, and.

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 1>We couldn't film her no more. And she locked the door,

0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:06.760
<v Speaker 1>closing on my face. Child.

0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, listen, I was having a wedding and I've been

0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 2>a bride prior too, and there was no cameras on

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 2>me like that, and I just needed a moment.

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:20.560
<v Speaker 3>I just needed a moment.

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 2>To just be like I was on camera the whole day.

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:25.200
<v Speaker 2>I just needed a moment, that's all. But I still

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:26.280
<v Speaker 2>loved you just the same.

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, we listen we made up and there

0:48:28.360 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 1>made up and it's a great wedding.

0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:35.600
<v Speaker 2>I just needed a moment.

0:48:35.800 --> 0:48:38.839
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a lot and we cried. Yes,

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I cried. Joy forced me to apologize to you. She said,

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 1>you will regret being mad at her before, she says,

0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I do. And I walked up to you. The cameras

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:53.400
<v Speaker 1>were rolling and I started to cry, and you said, bitch,

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:56.319
<v Speaker 1>you have a shew to produce. I love you too.

0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Got out of here, bitch. Yes, I want to ask

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:00.120
<v Speaker 1>you this because I want to use his the or

0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 1>the air. A lot of people have said one of

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:05.840
<v Speaker 1>your famous lines is close your legs to marry men. Yes,

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 1>and people said you ended up opening your legs up

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:11.040
<v Speaker 1>to one. How do you feel about that that? People

0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:13.800
<v Speaker 1>said you were dating a man who was married.

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:17.800
<v Speaker 2>I was dating a man who was legally married going

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:18.640
<v Speaker 2>through a divorce.

0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Like Kim and Big Papa.

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:24.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Big Papa went through a divorce. Yannie

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:28.719
<v Speaker 2>is divorced today as we sit here together. He is

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:32.120
<v Speaker 2>a divorce single man. And I don't think Big Papa

0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:35.320
<v Speaker 2>have ever been divorced. In fact, he's back with his wife.

0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I just saw him in Miami at this time. Hi

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:44.959
<v Speaker 2>Kim and Lee is his wife named Kim Kimberly. Big

0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Papa's wife name is Kim. Yes, you can't make this

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 2>shit up. You cannot Kimberly.

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, that was easy to remember.

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:58.680
<v Speaker 2>So yes, I said, close your legs to marry man

0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:02.839
<v Speaker 2>married men. When I met Yanni, he was a separated man.

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:04.880
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what he told me. Now, I don't know

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:07.880
<v Speaker 2>what he told his wife, who he was legally married

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:11.960
<v Speaker 2>to at the time. Today, as we said here, Yanni

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:15.280
<v Speaker 2>is a single, divorced man.

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Did you meet him before Greg passed away?

0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? Not one hundred percent. I think Yanni had been

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:28.120
<v Speaker 2>living in Atlanta maybe two months and I met him,

0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:31.400
<v Speaker 2>and my husband had probably been passed away maybe a

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:34.040
<v Speaker 2>month or so. And I met him in Atlanta at

0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Blue Martini, and we both have been very open and

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:42.719
<v Speaker 2>honest about our relationship. I met him. A lot of

0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 2>people said you didn't even grieve. Honestly, when I look back,

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:51.400
<v Speaker 2>I thank God for Yanni because I don't think I

0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:54.759
<v Speaker 2>could have made it. He kept my mind busy, he

0:50:54.880 --> 0:50:57.480
<v Speaker 2>kept me going. That's not saying that I didn't grieve.

0:50:57.800 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 2>I would grieve a lot. Grieving is very hard, and

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 2>how you grieve.

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:05.480
<v Speaker 3>And how you choose to grieve. No one knows.

0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:07.279
<v Speaker 2>I would have never known I would have met a

0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:10.840
<v Speaker 2>guy out just a month after my husband passed away.

0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:13.640
<v Speaker 2>And when we met, we were just friends, just talking.

0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:16.319
<v Speaker 2>He would invite me places, me and my friends and

0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:18.920
<v Speaker 2>we would go and hang out with him and that

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:23.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff, and me it wasn't serious. It got serious,

0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:25.800
<v Speaker 2>I think because so many people were talking about seeing

0:51:25.880 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 2>us together, so I feel like they made us serious

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:33.760
<v Speaker 2>when we weren't even trying to be serious. And today

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:34.880
<v Speaker 2>we're not serious.

0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Y'all aren't together today.

0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Today we are taking a break. We've been taking a break,

0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:48.560
<v Speaker 2>and it's just things. I'm not happy with, things he's

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:50.840
<v Speaker 2>not happy with. It's just not working at the moment.

0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:54.239
<v Speaker 2>He is single, So if any of the ladies out

0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:56.080
<v Speaker 2>there want to let him go, right ahead. But if

0:51:56.120 --> 0:52:03.399
<v Speaker 2>any other fellas honey only with a bag, Honey only

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:05.360
<v Speaker 2>with a bag, you cannot talk to me. My next

0:52:05.400 --> 0:52:07.720
<v Speaker 2>relationship will be absolutely private.

0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Really why, I just.

0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Don't want to be This was the most public I

0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:15.880
<v Speaker 2>think I've ever been in any relationship. It's more public

0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:20.279
<v Speaker 2>than Gregg's. And I just feel like it's just best

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:24.200
<v Speaker 2>to be private. Also, I know from dating Yanny, and

0:52:24.280 --> 0:52:29.319
<v Speaker 2>Yunny has a great career, he makes great money, sort

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:30.920
<v Speaker 2>of like what we were talking about earlier.

0:52:31.000 --> 0:52:32.400
<v Speaker 3>I just want my guy.

0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:34.560
<v Speaker 2>To make more money than me, I really do.

0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:38.160
<v Speaker 3>That's just gonna be best.

0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I need you to make more money than me.

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:42.959
<v Speaker 1>The best advice I was told is an inn a relationship,

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:45.640
<v Speaker 1>it needs to be one star per household.

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:48.360
<v Speaker 2>And I think, you know, being with somebody like Yanny,

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:51.319
<v Speaker 2>I think it will be a two star household. I

0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:54.120
<v Speaker 2>think that he would want to be more front and

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:56.360
<v Speaker 2>center and.

0:52:58.400 --> 0:52:59.400
<v Speaker 3>We just can't have that.

0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:05.240
<v Speaker 1>People have said that he was using you for fame.

0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that.

0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:14.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that he was using me for fame.

0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:15.759
<v Speaker 2>But he showed when Hay knowing that.

0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:22.960
<v Speaker 1>He liked taking the pictures, and of course, and that

0:53:23.080 --> 0:53:26.200
<v Speaker 1>was different because Greg never and I.

0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Also would always look at him like okay, yeah, it

0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:34.760
<v Speaker 2>felt different, And I agree it should be one star

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:37.920
<v Speaker 2>per household unless it's one of your kids.

0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah.

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:43.240
<v Speaker 3>But it was, Yeah, it was different.

0:53:43.360 --> 0:53:48.279
<v Speaker 2>I think. Honestly, I don't know if he was using

0:53:48.320 --> 0:53:51.200
<v Speaker 2>me or not. Honestly, I was just grieving. I don't

0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:52.919
<v Speaker 2>know what was happening I'm just going with the floor.

0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:54.279
<v Speaker 2>If he said get up and get dressed, I got

0:53:54.320 --> 0:53:56.000
<v Speaker 2>up and got dressed. He said, we leave in town.

0:53:56.040 --> 0:53:56.919
<v Speaker 2>I got up and left town.

0:53:57.400 --> 0:53:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Are you in love with him?

0:53:58.800 --> 0:53:58.960
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Were you? We're in love with him?

0:54:02.600 --> 0:54:06.399
<v Speaker 2>I love Ynny. I think when you say in love,

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I think those that is very different, and I'm not

0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:11.839
<v Speaker 2>sure that we are there.

0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:15.080
<v Speaker 3>I think we got very close.

0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you ever think you were experienced the type of

0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:21.840
<v Speaker 1>love you have with Greg with another man? I do not.

0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:24.600
<v Speaker 3>I think that again.

0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:28.600
<v Speaker 2>My love with Greg was the ultimate, and I feel

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:31.000
<v Speaker 2>like you just don't find love like that. I don't

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:34.919
<v Speaker 2>know that I'll ever find it again. I just don't.

0:54:35.560 --> 0:54:38.799
<v Speaker 1>Does that make you sad a little bit? Because you know,

0:54:38.840 --> 0:54:41.200
<v Speaker 1>you got all this energy, your gorgeous, You're young, and.

0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:44.359
<v Speaker 2>You know I think that I will find a guy, right, Yeah,

0:54:44.480 --> 0:54:51.680
<v Speaker 2>great guy to spend my life with. But Greg, he

0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:53.400
<v Speaker 2>was pretty up there. It's gonna be hard to get

0:54:53.480 --> 0:54:55.160
<v Speaker 2>up there. Greg was up there.

0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, Greg, Greg is the greatest love of your life.

0:54:58.560 --> 0:54:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:02.040
<v Speaker 3>He was great. He was great, and and I was

0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:02.239
<v Speaker 3>with you.

0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:04.239
<v Speaker 2>You have to understand I grew with Greg because I

0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:06.960
<v Speaker 2>was in my twenties and my thirties and my forties,

0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:10.160
<v Speaker 2>and so I was growing with Greg. So that was

0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:12.320
<v Speaker 2>just a different time and I don't think that I'll

0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:13.320
<v Speaker 2>ever have that again.

0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:15.880
<v Speaker 3>I hope that.

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I hope that I meet a great guy though, and

0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:27.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm open to all ethnicities. You gotta be one to travel.

0:55:27.160 --> 0:55:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Hoey have a bag.

0:55:28.520 --> 0:55:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I called Marlow.

0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:32.399
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think Marlow, you know, lock them in

0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:35.120
<v Speaker 2>like that, like I'm a relationship person and they usually

0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:35.600
<v Speaker 2>go with me.

0:55:35.680 --> 0:55:38.600
<v Speaker 3>I think Marlow goes on a date. We go years.

0:55:38.640 --> 0:55:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's what you want.

0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:42.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I'll go on a date two.

0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:44.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, I told you I never experienced dating before,

0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:46.680
<v Speaker 2>so I would like to date.

0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I want you to have a hall phase.

0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:54.400
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I want you to go out there and just

0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:59.799
<v Speaker 4>day meet Meg, get banged and get bags and yes,

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:05.640
<v Speaker 4>get bang bags and you know, billions.

0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:09.680
<v Speaker 2>That's the only one I'll be talking to. Honestly, I

0:56:09.719 --> 0:56:13.000
<v Speaker 2>can't do it. They have to be wealthier, yes, said

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:15.480
<v Speaker 2>to be wealthy. I don't want to talk, honestly, I

0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:17.759
<v Speaker 2>don't want to. I just don't want to deal with it.

0:56:18.120 --> 0:56:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to deal with having fights about you

0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:22.440
<v Speaker 2>think you're this or you're a fank you're that because

0:56:22.440 --> 0:56:23.799
<v Speaker 2>you can do this. I don't want to do it.

0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:28.600
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<v Speaker 1>Let's get back into the show. How do you feel

0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:02.200
<v Speaker 1>with people? I'll ask you, if you still have money,

0:58:02.320 --> 0:58:04.240
<v Speaker 1>if you're broke, are you struggling.

0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've ever been asked that question before.

0:58:08.840 --> 0:58:11.360
<v Speaker 2>If I'm struggling, if I'm broke, if I have money,

0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm not broke. That is not happening. Yeah, Lord Jesus,

0:58:20.600 --> 0:58:26.440
<v Speaker 2>please let that shit happened. But you know, that's the

0:58:26.480 --> 0:58:28.360
<v Speaker 2>only thing I can say is that, of course I'm

0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 2>not there.

0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:32.960
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so you're good. Yes, Well, let's get back

0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:38.120
<v Speaker 1>into season five. Keingya and Porsche came on the show. Okay,

0:58:38.680 --> 0:58:42.080
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, I'm gonna say something, and I'm

0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:46.320
<v Speaker 1>curious if you agree with me or not. I think

0:58:46.440 --> 0:58:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Kenyan Porsche saved the show.

0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:52.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:58:52.960 --> 0:58:54.880
<v Speaker 2>You have to take me back to that moment. Okay,

0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I know they were great additions.

0:58:56.760 --> 0:58:58.480
<v Speaker 1>They were so I didn't work on season five. I

0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:01.959
<v Speaker 1>was doing another show, and I remember season four. Season

0:59:02.040 --> 0:59:04.920
<v Speaker 1>four felt weird to me. It felt weird just in

0:59:05.000 --> 0:59:07.760
<v Speaker 1>terms of the dynamic it was. I agree with you

0:59:07.800 --> 0:59:10.920
<v Speaker 1>in terms of what is the show becoming and in

0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:13.760
<v Speaker 1>my opinion as somebody who did not work on season five.

0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I remember watching Kenya and Porsche and being like, these

0:59:18.880 --> 0:59:21.360
<v Speaker 1>are two new, great additions, and I felt like they

0:59:22.040 --> 0:59:26.439
<v Speaker 1>changed the temperature of the show. And I remember being

0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:29.720
<v Speaker 1>invited to your Shoe Dazzle event. This is when Kenya

0:59:29.760 --> 0:59:33.000
<v Speaker 1>came in pretending to be Phedro with the butt pass

0:59:33.000 --> 0:59:37.440
<v Speaker 1>and the fishing that outfit, and you were so tickled

0:59:38.320 --> 0:59:41.320
<v Speaker 1>by Kenya, and I was just sitting there as a

0:59:41.440 --> 0:59:44.480
<v Speaker 1>viewer at that point, like, what is this show like?

0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:49.120
<v Speaker 1>This show is what I'm accustomed to. I felt like

0:59:49.240 --> 0:59:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Kenya and Porsche saved it from becoming redundant, and I

0:59:53.520 --> 0:59:56.720
<v Speaker 1>felt like they brought something to the show that was needed.

0:59:57.680 --> 1:00:01.200
<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts on Kenya and Porsche coming on

1:00:01.280 --> 1:00:01.840
<v Speaker 1>season five.

1:00:03.360 --> 1:00:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember it the way that you do. They

1:00:06.440 --> 1:00:10.320
<v Speaker 2>were definitely great additions to the show. Obviously, we were

1:00:10.680 --> 1:00:14.040
<v Speaker 2>all excited about having Kenya because she had been Missed USA,

1:00:14.200 --> 1:00:16.480
<v Speaker 2>so we all knew her as Miss Usa. See I

1:00:16.480 --> 1:00:18.520
<v Speaker 2>didn't know her as an actress or anything. I just

1:00:18.600 --> 1:00:21.680
<v Speaker 2>knew her as the black Miss USA, and we thought

1:00:21.720 --> 1:00:24.840
<v Speaker 2>of her as a black Barbie doll. And I did

1:00:24.880 --> 1:00:28.320
<v Speaker 2>not know Portia at all. Now I knew her grandfather,

1:00:28.560 --> 1:00:31.680
<v Speaker 2>which was Hosea, and everybody in Atlanta know Josell Feed

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<v Speaker 2>the home rent and homeless, and so I was excited to.

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<v Speaker 3>Meet her as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't remember everything and how they may have

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<v Speaker 2>changed the show, but I do remember we went to Anguilla,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember her and Fhader started out as friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Kenya and Phager started out as I thought, cool in

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning, and then somehow it took a turn with

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<v Speaker 2>Apollo being involved, and I remember thinking that this is

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<v Speaker 2>a moment when King it just somehow just went into

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<v Speaker 2>twirl and twirl and twirl, And I was standing there

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<v Speaker 2>looking like, what the hell just happened, because it just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like came out of no when she was

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<v Speaker 2>just torn around, and I thought to him myself, what

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<v Speaker 2>damn just she's doing?

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<v Speaker 3>And so that was really different.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember I was the one sitting with Porsche

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<v Speaker 2>when she was her and King and never clicked from

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<v Speaker 2>the moment ago And I remember her telling me, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was two hundred and sixty five days a year,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh, I just thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for me, it was like what are we in?

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<v Speaker 3>These girls? Kenya is twirling and she.

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<v Speaker 2>Thinks it's two hundred and sixty five days and a year.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just really different for me. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>remember meeting her husband. Cordell was Porsia's husband at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't think that I felt like he held

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<v Speaker 2>Porsche back a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Fast forward, if you remember me and Candy and a

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<v Speaker 2>few of us. I remember the producers saying that after

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<v Speaker 2>this season they didn't want to really have Porsche back

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<v Speaker 2>because she started to go. They did not want to

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<v Speaker 2>have her back. And I often think that people forget,

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, but Porsche, I'm just saying that sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>I think people forget, they really forget.

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<v Speaker 3>The producer were really like, no to Porsche.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't confirm right now that Porsche is on the

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<v Speaker 1>chopping block.

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<v Speaker 2>She was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was brought back to produce season five reunion, just

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<v Speaker 1>the reunion, and I remember telling the producers I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>as a viewer. I like Porsche. I think she's great.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you guys should get rid of her.

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<v Speaker 1>Porsche was one hundred percent on the chopping block.

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<v Speaker 2>She was, and so Candy and I and I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember there was anyone that I know it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was Candy and I.

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<v Speaker 2>We called and talked to production and the network about

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<v Speaker 2>keeping Porsche because Porsche was going through a divorce and

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<v Speaker 2>we were like, you guys, can't get rid of her

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I mean, she really needs to show. Just

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<v Speaker 2>let us stay and see how it works. And we

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<v Speaker 2>went to full on beat for Porsche and your state

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. And you know, sometimes people forget who

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<v Speaker 2>goes for back for the money because that was a

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<v Speaker 2>bag because you were out.

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<v Speaker 1>No, she was on the topic block and now too.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was the executive producer season six, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like fighting for portion. I said, Porch is great,

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<v Speaker 1>we need her on the show. Season six is in

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<v Speaker 1>the Guinness Book of Rod Records for being the highest

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<v Speaker 1>rated season ever on Bravo. And we reach, bitch close

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<v Speaker 1>to five million viewers, which is insane. Season six had

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<v Speaker 1>five million.

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<v Speaker 2>What season was that?

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<v Speaker 1>Season six?

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<v Speaker 2>Season six? This is season what fifteen and a five hundred?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a different iniment. Wow, what a big difference. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>five million, five hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that in second, baby, So season six

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<v Speaker 1>is the highest rate, said, let's just sit there for

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<v Speaker 1>a second. Oh okay. On Carlos King Honey five millions

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<v Speaker 1>to five hundred. That's a new tack line. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was close to five million. Season six, we had Nini, Kenya, Candy, Phaedra,

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<v Speaker 1>portion Cynthia till this day. To this day, people said,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the best cast that the Real Housewives has ever seen,

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<v Speaker 1>those six housewives. Do you Marlow was a friend and

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<v Speaker 1>Marlow was a friend? Do you agree that when you

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<v Speaker 1>think about seasons one to the time you were on

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<v Speaker 1>that Season six cast was the strongest cast on the

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<v Speaker 1>Real Housewives of Atlanta?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree? Tell me why I think at that moment,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like all of First of all, we had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of conflict.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of freaking conflict, and everybody was speaking their opinion, everybody

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<v Speaker 2>was working. Everybody stepped up to their role. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the seasons went on, people start to not step up,

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<v Speaker 2>but those that season, I feel like everybody stepped up.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody had a storyline. It was just a great time

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<v Speaker 2>for all of us. It really was. No.

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<v Speaker 1>It was my first time being the EP of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>The show runner.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so oh I forgot and you were the EP. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's mainly why. Absolutely, listen, listen, I got the job.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the first executive producer who never had to interview

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<v Speaker 1>for the job.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the interview, I mean you worked your way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. They said to me, you knew all the girls.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew all the girls, and I knew I knew

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<v Speaker 1>the dynamics. And they all said to me, it is

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<v Speaker 1>your job to revolutionize this show. And I said, well, damn, bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to see if I'm able to like

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<v Speaker 1>twelve with Kenyon for a second chip. But I digress. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So Jesus is cavalong. I just finished your wedding special.

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<v Speaker 1>We all collectively said, we're going to bring it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say this, all of y'all were so happy

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<v Speaker 1>I was the EP, and y'all all said to me,

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<v Speaker 1>were also gonna make sure you look good, bitch, because

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<v Speaker 1>I was the first black man to EP the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all was like, bitch, oh we go, We're gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We all together made that season of success. You and

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<v Speaker 1>Kenya started off being cool and then some way, somehow

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<v Speaker 1>it became destructive. A lot of people, Nini, feel that

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<v Speaker 1>you were jealous of Kenya and that you were threatened

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<v Speaker 1>by her becoming the star of the show, or that

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<v Speaker 1>Kenya thought she was the star.

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<v Speaker 2>I have never thought Keny was to start of the show. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not even being shady, no, seriously, I mean I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean honestly, I've never thought she was to start

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<v Speaker 2>of the show ever.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not even playing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Kenya is great on the show, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think she is a great She was a great addition

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<v Speaker 2>to the show when she came on, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>the show needs Kenya, by the way, But I never

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<v Speaker 2>saw her as the star of Real Housewives of Atlanta ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not.

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't see her as the star of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and certainly she wasn't the star when I was there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just being for real, and I just never

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<v Speaker 2>I just never saw that. I just haven't. No, i

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<v Speaker 2>just haven't seen it. And I've never been threatened by

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<v Speaker 2>any of the girls. In fact, I would go as

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<v Speaker 2>far as to say, I believe I am one of

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<v Speaker 2>the girls. I don't know about all the rest of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I am one of the girls that felt like we

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<v Speaker 2>all need to work hard to make this show great

1:07:38.360 --> 1:07:41.080
<v Speaker 2>so that we can all get paid and get a check. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>there was many of them that didn't to me that

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<v Speaker 2>didn't feel that way. I felt like I needed to

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<v Speaker 2>come to work. I would try to figure out whatever

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<v Speaker 2>WHI y'all we need to need being I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>help y'all. I want to figure it out. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to show to succeed. Yeah, so I don't. I just

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<v Speaker 2>some of these girls come out. They don't have no plans,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have no nothing, They're not try trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do anything. They just kind of chilling. They getting a check.

1:08:02.760 --> 1:08:04.800
<v Speaker 2>And I feel some kind of way about any chick

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<v Speaker 2>that's on this show just getting a check when I

1:08:07.760 --> 1:08:10.120
<v Speaker 2>am giving the blood out of my veins to make

1:08:10.160 --> 1:08:14.960
<v Speaker 2>sure that this show is successful. So no shade to Kenya.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she's great on the show, and I think

1:08:16.560 --> 1:08:19.320
<v Speaker 2>she is much needed, but I've never seen her as

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<v Speaker 2>the star of the show. And I have never once

1:08:21.920 --> 1:08:24.599
<v Speaker 2>ever been threatened by not one woman they ever bring

1:08:24.600 --> 1:08:27.759
<v Speaker 2>on this show. If anything, they are threatened by my presence?

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<v Speaker 1>Was ken you threatened by your presence?

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<v Speaker 2>Very possible, because I won't be backing down to any

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<v Speaker 2>of these girls ever, not ever in life, on the show,

1:08:35.320 --> 1:08:38.040
<v Speaker 2>off the show, around the show, behind the show, anytime,

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<v Speaker 2>any place, anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm never going to be backing down.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happened on Pello Talk Pello Talk? Obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>and your neglige ay Yes was strung up and down

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel suite at the Intercontinental, and Kenya was late.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to break the fourth wall here. Kenya

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<v Speaker 1>was late and you were frustrated because I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>people know this. As the host of an event, the

1:09:06.920 --> 1:09:09.280
<v Speaker 1>pressure is on you to make sure the event is

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<v Speaker 1>good and let's be clear, to make sure that this

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<v Speaker 1>shit gonna be used. And you bitches are about to

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<v Speaker 1>embarrass me for my event, bitch, because I show up

1:09:17.520 --> 1:09:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to y'all's so you have this pressure on you. Kenya

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<v Speaker 1>was late, significantly late. She walked in her neglige ay

1:09:27.479 --> 1:09:31.679
<v Speaker 1>you slammed the door. She said, hey Nina. You said, hey, bitch,

1:09:32.400 --> 1:09:35.920
<v Speaker 1>She said you look good. You said you don't. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>always look good. You said, you really think you look good,

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<v Speaker 1>but you really don't. And then you're talking the butt.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the start of the decline of your friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>What frustrated you that day about Kenya being so late?

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<v Speaker 2>I have you, guys know a lot of these girls

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<v Speaker 2>are extremely late, not just Kenya, many of them are

1:10:00.400 --> 1:10:04.040
<v Speaker 2>and that's very frustrating. If we have to be somewhere

1:10:04.080 --> 1:10:06.559
<v Speaker 2>at four and everybody trickles in at six, it's just

1:10:06.760 --> 1:10:11.000
<v Speaker 2>very upsetting. So you may have arrived very happy and

1:10:11.040 --> 1:10:13.280
<v Speaker 2>ready to have a good time, but two hours later,

1:10:13.360 --> 1:10:15.320
<v Speaker 2>sitting there waiting on everybody to arrive, you're like this,

1:10:15.479 --> 1:10:18.160
<v Speaker 2>what's wrong with you? You know, I've been here since far,

1:10:18.439 --> 1:10:21.280
<v Speaker 2>so I think it was that kind of energy towards her.

1:10:21.640 --> 1:10:23.840
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not sure, but I can say this, I

1:10:23.880 --> 1:10:26.960
<v Speaker 2>don't think he and I ever like clicked like we

1:10:27.000 --> 1:10:29.680
<v Speaker 2>would like we like people think we should have. I

1:10:29.720 --> 1:10:31.439
<v Speaker 2>don't think we ever had like that moment where we

1:10:31.520 --> 1:10:35.679
<v Speaker 2>really like like uh, and when we did have times

1:10:35.720 --> 1:10:37.519
<v Speaker 2>when we were cool, like if you remember she was

1:10:37.560 --> 1:10:39.880
<v Speaker 2>living in like a hotel and I visited her and

1:10:40.160 --> 1:10:43.000
<v Speaker 2>do you remember not I think talked about her refrigerator

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<v Speaker 2>or this is the ghetto.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh honey child, this is the ghetto child.

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<v Speaker 1>White refrigerator.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so I think that was probably one of

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<v Speaker 2>the closest time we've ever been.

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<v Speaker 3>I've liked her.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw her recently too in Niema Marcus, and of

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<v Speaker 2>course I said, hi, like, I don't you know, did

1:10:59.479 --> 1:11:02.479
<v Speaker 2>y'all talk about nothing. We just high from Afar High High.

1:11:02.640 --> 1:11:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna go up and have a conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have. I mean, it wasn't like I wasn't

1:11:06.720 --> 1:11:09.200
<v Speaker 2>against you know, I don't have any problem with these girls.

1:11:09.520 --> 1:11:12.000
<v Speaker 2>But we just kind of said hey, and she went

1:11:12.000 --> 1:11:15.880
<v Speaker 2>on her way and I went on my way. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I don't think that we ever had the

1:11:19.400 --> 1:11:21.800
<v Speaker 2>chance to do that, because when she came on the

1:11:21.840 --> 1:11:24.439
<v Speaker 2>first season, I felt like she had an alliance with Phaedra,

1:11:25.320 --> 1:11:27.639
<v Speaker 2>so and me and Faedia were kind of like bumping

1:11:27.680 --> 1:11:29.559
<v Speaker 2>heads a little bit, but she was down with Phaedra,

1:11:29.800 --> 1:11:32.200
<v Speaker 2>and then her and Phaedra ended up bumping heads, and

1:11:32.240 --> 1:11:34.280
<v Speaker 2>then she started being a I'm not sure if it

1:11:34.320 --> 1:11:36.800
<v Speaker 2>was Candy or who was. She kind of played with

1:11:36.840 --> 1:11:38.519
<v Speaker 2>Candy a little bit but not a whole lot, and

1:11:38.520 --> 1:11:40.599
<v Speaker 2>then her Candy got close like later down the line,

1:11:40.720 --> 1:11:42.920
<v Speaker 2>and then she started coming from my best friend Cynthia,

1:11:43.240 --> 1:11:45.280
<v Speaker 2>and so I just feel like we just never got

1:11:45.280 --> 1:11:47.920
<v Speaker 2>a chance to like get like totally cool, like we

1:11:48.280 --> 1:11:49.320
<v Speaker 2>like most people think that.

1:11:49.280 --> 1:11:52.920
<v Speaker 1>We would have gotten what went wrong with you and

1:11:53.000 --> 1:12:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Cynthia's friendship. Do you think people thinking Cynthia was and

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<v Speaker 1>people saying you let Nini run over you. Yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even Peter allegedly may have said those things to her too.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think the destruction of your friendship with Cynthia

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<v Speaker 1>came because she let people get into her ear about you?

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<v Speaker 2>I think Cynthia definitely let people get in her head,

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of girls. Even Marlowe was even at

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<v Speaker 2>a point where she's like, oh, they think that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like you, you know, telling me what to

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<v Speaker 2>do about me around and you know. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>those girls wanted to have their own identity, which they did,

1:12:35.960 --> 1:12:37.960
<v Speaker 2>but they would always let people get in their head

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<v Speaker 2>like Nini is running this, Ninie is. And it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>even like that. It was like, we're friends and you

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<v Speaker 2>know what our friendship is. Don't let somebody get in

1:12:45.160 --> 1:12:46.800
<v Speaker 2>your head like you know, we cool. You know, I'm

1:12:46.800 --> 1:12:50.160
<v Speaker 2>not running you. But I think they felt in their

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<v Speaker 2>heart they need to prove it somehow. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that I loved Cynthia like she was my sister,

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<v Speaker 2>had a great friendship, and I think people watching us

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<v Speaker 2>probably felt like I may have been more of the

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<v Speaker 2>leader in the friendship, or I may have been more

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<v Speaker 2>of something. They just don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Sensia, Who is Cynthia behind the scenes that you wish

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<v Speaker 1>people would see.

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<v Speaker 2>Cynthia is quite different than she is on the scene. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that kid Cynthia is. She's not gonna let

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<v Speaker 2>you run over her. So that's not possible for people

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that she's being ran over, or for people thinking

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<v Speaker 2>that she's quiet. She's very opinionated. She has a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to say, and she stands up for herself.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think she didn't want to show that

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<v Speaker 1>from the camera, that's who she is.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of these girls that come on the

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<v Speaker 2>show and they don't show who they are. Remember I

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<v Speaker 2>made a conscious decision season one to just be who

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<v Speaker 2>I am, right, and some of these girls come on

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<v Speaker 2>and they just I don't know, they play with their head.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, I don't want to be seen that way,

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<v Speaker 2>or my family would die if I was seeing that way,

1:14:02.920 --> 1:14:04.640
<v Speaker 2>or my husband doesn't want me to do this. My

1:14:04.680 --> 1:14:07.160
<v Speaker 2>boyfriend said, I can't do that, and so they just

1:14:07.280 --> 1:14:11.080
<v Speaker 2>create some character. And I just think that Cynthia never

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<v Speaker 2>wanted people to really see her be as she liked

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<v Speaker 2>to say, fifty cents, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you miss Cynthia?

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<v Speaker 2>I missed the friendship that we had, because I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like we had a really good friendship and I cherished

1:14:30.439 --> 1:14:34.439
<v Speaker 2>my friendships, and I feel like, you know, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to find really good friends and it's unfortunate

1:14:40.000 --> 1:14:41.040
<v Speaker 2>what happened to our friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, why can't you guys rekindle?

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<v Speaker 2>Then?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that will ever be possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Why Because I just know some of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>she has done behind the scenes that I just could

1:14:52.320 --> 1:14:57.479
<v Speaker 2>never ever ever respect. Now that now I can't respect them.

1:14:57.520 --> 1:14:59.320
<v Speaker 2>But that doesn't mean I couldn't work with her. I

1:14:59.320 --> 1:15:01.760
<v Speaker 2>could work with her, but I can't respect some of

1:15:01.760 --> 1:15:03.960
<v Speaker 2>the stuff that I know for searching that she did.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she try to stop your bag as.

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<v Speaker 3>Much as she was on camera saying I'm trying.

1:15:08.280 --> 1:15:12.000
<v Speaker 2>To stop hers, She was definitely trying to stop mine.

1:15:12.439 --> 1:15:16.519
<v Speaker 2>From Bravo, of course, from Bravo. I know a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things she did, honey. She was in an alliance too, honey.

1:15:19.960 --> 1:15:21.880
<v Speaker 1>With producers or housewives.

1:15:21.920 --> 1:15:25.360
<v Speaker 2>She was an alliance with housewives and behind the scene

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<v Speaker 2>with producers.

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<v Speaker 1>In network to get you off the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe she tried.

1:15:30.160 --> 1:15:31.760
<v Speaker 2>I think she had a hand in trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>it done, really.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, But what would how would that benefit her?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think that some of these girls

1:15:46.600 --> 1:15:50.840
<v Speaker 2>they feel like maybe if they do certain things, maybe

1:15:50.840 --> 1:15:54.400
<v Speaker 2>they'll stay on the show longer, maybe they'll get other opportunities.

1:15:54.680 --> 1:15:57.400
<v Speaker 2>But for me, I feel like where I think these

1:15:57.400 --> 1:16:00.439
<v Speaker 2>group of girls go wrong at is if we all

1:16:00.439 --> 1:16:02.760
<v Speaker 2>stuck together and held hands together so that we can

1:16:02.840 --> 1:16:05.320
<v Speaker 2>all work and all eat together, we would all be

1:16:05.320 --> 1:16:08.120
<v Speaker 2>better together. I feel like trying to push this person

1:16:08.160 --> 1:16:10.360
<v Speaker 2>off the store show and push that person out for

1:16:10.400 --> 1:16:12.960
<v Speaker 2>the show. Obviously, when we go places, people ask us

1:16:13.040 --> 1:16:14.800
<v Speaker 2>who do you think should be on the show or

1:16:14.800 --> 1:16:16.640
<v Speaker 2>who do you think shouldn't be on the show, and

1:16:16.680 --> 1:16:19.080
<v Speaker 2>we all give our opinions. I mean, and we have

1:16:19.160 --> 1:16:21.600
<v Speaker 2>the right to do that. But that's not saying I

1:16:21.600 --> 1:16:23.679
<v Speaker 2>don't want the show to be successful and I don't

1:16:23.720 --> 1:16:26.040
<v Speaker 2>want you to be successful. I might just be saying

1:16:26.080 --> 1:16:27.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you're doing what you should be doing

1:16:27.960 --> 1:16:31.040
<v Speaker 2>on the show, because we know together like who comes

1:16:31.040 --> 1:16:33.479
<v Speaker 2>on the show and who's really doing something, who's really

1:16:33.479 --> 1:16:35.720
<v Speaker 2>trying to put an event together, who's really trying to

1:16:35.760 --> 1:16:37.960
<v Speaker 2>push the show forward. You guys have a lot of

1:16:37.960 --> 1:16:40.800
<v Speaker 2>girls who are lacking, but the audience don't know that

1:16:40.880 --> 1:16:43.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. They're just looking at the show like, oh,

1:16:43.240 --> 1:16:45.040
<v Speaker 2>we like her and Nini's again star.

1:16:45.280 --> 1:16:47.360
<v Speaker 3>That's when it's like, that's that's one. It's just not

1:16:47.520 --> 1:16:47.880
<v Speaker 3>like that.

1:16:48.040 --> 1:16:51.760
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, oh, I'm surprised to hear that, because the

1:16:51.840 --> 1:16:54.400
<v Speaker 1>thing is she and you did have a real friendship.

1:16:54.400 --> 1:16:57.120
<v Speaker 1>But I remember y'all calling me when can you have

1:16:57.200 --> 1:17:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the masquerate ball? And you were like Carlos, she trying

1:17:01.080 --> 1:17:03.120
<v Speaker 1>to play me. Was you syn them in three with me?

1:17:03.360 --> 1:17:05.639
<v Speaker 1>Should you go? Should you not go? And you did

1:17:05.640 --> 1:17:07.679
<v Speaker 1>show up to the mask of rat Ball. You said

1:17:07.680 --> 1:17:10.920
<v Speaker 1>this epic line of it's amazing how many friends I

1:17:10.920 --> 1:17:12.200
<v Speaker 1>haven't don't even know about it.

1:17:12.360 --> 1:17:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Of course today it's amazing how many friends.

1:17:18.960 --> 1:17:21.120
<v Speaker 3>I have and I don't even knew about it.

1:17:21.520 --> 1:17:26.879
<v Speaker 1>So you were It saddens me where things are because

1:17:27.040 --> 1:17:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I will say this on the record, you were the

1:17:29.640 --> 1:17:34.040
<v Speaker 1>anchor of the show. You not to be disrespectful to

1:17:34.080 --> 1:17:35.519
<v Speaker 1>the other girls because they know my heart and I

1:17:35.520 --> 1:17:38.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know me, and to come across this way, they

1:17:38.520 --> 1:17:40.360
<v Speaker 1>really did look up to you in the sense of

1:17:40.439 --> 1:17:43.080
<v Speaker 1>what we're going to do. See, I didn't feel that though,

1:17:43.160 --> 1:17:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh I can I can say to you. Let me

1:17:44.640 --> 1:17:46.320
<v Speaker 1>tell you something, I honestly didn't feel that.

1:17:46.400 --> 1:17:49.680
<v Speaker 2>I always felt like, you know, I always felt like

1:17:49.720 --> 1:17:54.040
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't supported on the show. This is just my feelings.

1:17:54.240 --> 1:17:56.559
<v Speaker 2>I honestly felt like I wasn't supported the way I

1:17:56.600 --> 1:17:59.160
<v Speaker 2>felt that I should have been supported from the girls,

1:17:59.200 --> 1:18:02.240
<v Speaker 2>from production, from everybody now, and I could be looking

1:18:02.240 --> 1:18:04.960
<v Speaker 2>at it totally wrong. I just felt like I didn't

1:18:05.000 --> 1:18:07.720
<v Speaker 2>get the support that I should have gotten and deserved

1:18:08.240 --> 1:18:11.760
<v Speaker 2>in every kind of way. I just don't feel like

1:18:11.800 --> 1:18:14.479
<v Speaker 2>I got that kind of support because at one point

1:18:14.479 --> 1:18:17.040
<v Speaker 2>on the show, I was the only original you know,

1:18:17.160 --> 1:18:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Kim was only there for whenever she was there. I

1:18:19.800 --> 1:18:22.320
<v Speaker 2>was the only original girl on the show. And I

1:18:22.360 --> 1:18:25.920
<v Speaker 2>felt like everybody came on the show or whatever the

1:18:25.960 --> 1:18:29.080
<v Speaker 2>plot was, every new person come on the show and

1:18:29.120 --> 1:18:29.920
<v Speaker 2>come for Nini.

1:18:30.080 --> 1:18:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Everybody come for Nini, everybody go out to Ninni.

1:18:33.520 --> 1:18:38.000
<v Speaker 2>And that is just tired at some point, and it's tiring,

1:18:38.240 --> 1:18:41.240
<v Speaker 2>and it's also not fair to be the person that

1:18:41.280 --> 1:18:46.320
<v Speaker 2>everybody is jumping on and villainizing, and it doesn't feel

1:18:46.320 --> 1:18:48.519
<v Speaker 2>good to be in that position every single time.

1:18:49.080 --> 1:18:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's interesting because I always saw you as this

1:18:51.960 --> 1:18:55.680
<v Speaker 1>anchor and the Queen Bee. And again that doesn't mean

1:18:55.720 --> 1:18:57.720
<v Speaker 1>the other girls are lesser. Now, I want to make

1:18:57.760 --> 1:18:59.880
<v Speaker 1>that clear. You were the queen be of the show,

1:19:00.439 --> 1:19:03.639
<v Speaker 1>and you were the face of the show. And at

1:19:03.640 --> 1:19:07.519
<v Speaker 1>one point in time, Miani, you arguably was the most

1:19:07.720 --> 1:19:11.000
<v Speaker 1>famous black reality start in the world.

1:19:11.360 --> 1:19:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Not at one time, at this very.

1:19:12.840 --> 1:19:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Moment, No, no, no, no, you.

1:19:15.760 --> 1:19:18.760
<v Speaker 3>Still are seeing her. If she's out there, where is she?

1:19:19.400 --> 1:19:26.879
<v Speaker 1>Well, Tammy Romes says, hi, but hey tamby eating offs.

1:19:27.280 --> 1:19:29.120
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Tammy girl, calm me and we'll talk about that.

1:19:29.160 --> 1:19:32.320
<v Speaker 1>We love to have, you know, all jumps aside the

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<v Speaker 1>face of black reality TV, in the face of reality television.

1:19:34.960 --> 1:19:37.080
<v Speaker 1>White women love you, Oh of course.

1:19:37.120 --> 1:19:41.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean you go anywhere without people stopping me, black, white, old,

1:19:41.960 --> 1:19:44.240
<v Speaker 2>young children, everybody.

1:19:44.400 --> 1:19:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, you were also in network shows. Ryan Murphy loves You,

1:19:53.920 --> 1:19:58.000
<v Speaker 1>befrobably finished. How is your relationship today with Ryan Murphy?

1:19:58.200 --> 1:20:01.559
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen Ryan in forever, but there's nothing but

1:20:01.640 --> 1:20:04.120
<v Speaker 2>love there. I saw him a few years ago, and

1:20:04.160 --> 1:20:06.519
<v Speaker 2>of course we loved each other up and hugged and

1:20:06.560 --> 1:20:08.040
<v Speaker 2>all those things. But I haven't seen him in a

1:20:08.120 --> 1:20:08.800
<v Speaker 2>very long time.

1:20:09.080 --> 1:20:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything that happened between the two of you, Okay.

1:20:11.880 --> 1:20:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Never anything. Okay, I've never had a problem ever.

1:20:15.000 --> 1:20:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Let's be very clear.

1:20:16.280 --> 1:20:19.519
<v Speaker 2>I've never had a problem ever on any show that

1:20:19.640 --> 1:20:24.040
<v Speaker 2>I've ever worked on before. Ever. This Is Housewives is

1:20:24.080 --> 1:20:29.680
<v Speaker 2>the only show that they tried to give me the reputation.

1:20:29.800 --> 1:20:32.960
<v Speaker 2>But I've never My thing, and I've always spoken about

1:20:32.960 --> 1:20:34.960
<v Speaker 2>it publicly, is to show up at work.

1:20:35.160 --> 1:20:36.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't need anything.

1:20:36.160 --> 1:20:38.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm not one of those talents that show up on

1:20:38.120 --> 1:20:40.519
<v Speaker 2>set and I need this chicken wings and a whole

1:20:40.560 --> 1:20:43.360
<v Speaker 2>bunch of drinks, Roses, eminem, peanuts.

1:20:43.040 --> 1:20:44.800
<v Speaker 3>All cart service, all these kinds.

1:20:44.800 --> 1:20:47.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't need any of that. I need some water

1:20:47.400 --> 1:20:50.280
<v Speaker 2>and my check and that's all I need. Honey. I

1:20:50.320 --> 1:20:52.040
<v Speaker 2>show up, I do what you asked me to do,

1:20:52.280 --> 1:20:55.200
<v Speaker 2>and goodbye, and that's it for me. So there's no

1:20:55.280 --> 1:20:57.519
<v Speaker 2>reason for anybody on any set to have any issue

1:20:57.520 --> 1:21:00.760
<v Speaker 2>with me. Come, I purposely be going said and be like,

1:21:00.960 --> 1:21:01.920
<v Speaker 2>don't say that shit up.

1:21:01.960 --> 1:21:02.679
<v Speaker 3>Okay, y'all they.

1:21:02.560 --> 1:21:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Calling for us.

1:21:03.080 --> 1:21:04.960
<v Speaker 3>Let's go hurry up, glam let's get on set.

1:21:05.080 --> 1:21:06.840
<v Speaker 2>You know. I try to be on time with these people.

1:21:06.840 --> 1:21:08.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't try to do anything. I don't want to

1:21:08.160 --> 1:21:10.800
<v Speaker 2>cause no problems. That's the first thing. I feel like

1:21:10.840 --> 1:21:13.200
<v Speaker 2>they want to be able to say, is that become

1:21:13.240 --> 1:21:16.080
<v Speaker 2>another black girl causing problems?

1:21:16.200 --> 1:21:17.400
<v Speaker 3>So I don't want to be heard.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you feel the need to sue? Bravo, NBC

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<v Speaker 1>and any caror Baby. Part two of my exclusive interview

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<v Speaker 1>with Nini Leeks drops next Tuesday, August first, at nine

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