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Speaker 4: It is Monday, October ninth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,
Speaker 4: episode number forty eight. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 4: The Breakway, Live from SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star.
Speaker 4: And uh yeah, this is gonna be one of those
Speaker 4: days when we got to try to make sense of
Speaker 4: what we all watched last night. Cowboys go to San
Speaker 4: Francisco and take one like they really got it, got
Speaker 4: destroyed last night, and then San Francisco left no doubt
Speaker 4: as to who is the better team at least at
Speaker 4: this point.
Speaker 3: They went forty two to ten.
Speaker 4: And now we get to figure out, like, what does
Speaker 4: this mean for this Cowboys team going forward? What if anything,
Speaker 4: do we learn about this team last night in that debacle.
Speaker 4: And I'll start first with the big picture. Look at
Speaker 4: that I want to go around the table and tell
Speaker 4: me what your big picture storyline is coming out of
Speaker 4: that game for this Cowboys season, start with you.
Speaker 5: Patrick Well First and four, most Couboys got their asses kicked.
Speaker 5: I mean three out of the first four games they
Speaker 5: were the ones bullying. But yesterday and Santa Claira, they
Speaker 5: absolutely got their ass kicked in every phase of the game.
Speaker 5: They got out bullied, they got out muscled, they got
Speaker 5: out physical, they got out coached, they got out executed.
Speaker 5: Pick an adjective and put it after the word out
Speaker 5: and that's what happened yesterday. The biggest takeaway for me
Speaker 5: is that they're not ready. They're not ready yet. When
Speaker 5: the question is posed, is this Cowboys team in twenty
Speaker 5: two three ready to take the next step and be
Speaker 5: that contender that gets to the NFC Championship and then
Speaker 5: to the Super Bowl. This was the measuring stick. This
Speaker 5: was the measuring stick we can enjoy and we did.
Speaker 5: We enjoyed the seventy to ten deficit through week two.
Speaker 5: We enjoyed them bouncing back after the loss of the
Speaker 5: Jets and handing Bill Belichick the worst loss of his
Speaker 5: NFL career. But then, what do you do. You go
Speaker 5: out to Santa Clara and Mike McCarthy suffers the worst
Speaker 5: point differential loss in his NFL career, forty two to ten.
Speaker 5: And it's a game where you were outdone and you
Speaker 5: had self inflicted wounds that made it that much worse.
Speaker 5: So through five weeks, I mean, still a lot of
Speaker 5: football to be played. But at a certain point even
Speaker 5: that phrase gets stale because sooner or later there will
Speaker 5: not be a lot of football left to be played.
Speaker 5: You have to turn it on sooner or later, and
Speaker 5: it needs to be sooner than later. And the crux
Speaker 5: of it all is you look at the time of
Speaker 5: possession and it was just whoppingly in favor of the
Speaker 5: forty nine ers. And it's going to bring me back
Speaker 5: to a singular point and I'll pass it off to
Speaker 5: BB And I know Ambro wants to talk about this too.
Speaker 5: Where the hell is this Texas Coast offense? Where's the explosiveness?
Speaker 5: Love what I saw with the scheming of Cavante Turpin
Speaker 5: in the slot. You get him on single high coverage
Speaker 5: against Oliver the nickelback and you burn him. Okay, where
Speaker 5: is that? In the aspect of using Cooks and Ceedee
Speaker 5: Lamb as some of these players. We're still waiting for
Speaker 5: the explosiveness, still waiting for this offense to come together.
Speaker 5: You're now five weeks in and we still have no
Speaker 5: clue what you're capable of.
Speaker 2: Where is it? Where is it? Feel good about me
Speaker 2: talking about this? Go ahead, I'll go last, you go last. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think Patrick completely nailed everything that needed to be
Speaker 6: addressed on that.
Speaker 2: Where I'm was, where I was a little bit lost.
Speaker 6: Dallas only created seven pressures last night, and the pressures
Speaker 6: that they were able to get actually resulted in big
Speaker 6: plays for the forty nine ers, and that's usually the
Speaker 6: recipe for at least causing the forty.
Speaker 2: Nine ers some problems.
Speaker 6: From what we observed in the previous the four games
Speaker 6: was when you watch brock perty he'll throw off his
Speaker 6: back foot. He will, you know, he'll take a sack,
Speaker 6: he'll throw it away. You know, he will do something
Speaker 6: that doesn't result in a big play. Your pressure started
Speaker 6: off well, the tip balls that you you know you're
Speaker 6: able to get. The sack that you got from Curse
Speaker 6: was a big play. And then after that though it
Speaker 6: was downhill. You gave up a play of thirty eight.
Speaker 6: You give up a play a nineteen. You give up
Speaker 6: a play of twenty three and you give up a
Speaker 6: play of eight. You know, so here you are. All
Speaker 6: these throws that Perty's making, he's facing pressure ended up
Speaker 6: being huge plays for the forty nine ers. They are
Speaker 6: They're a well coached team. They they scheme very well.
Speaker 6: They find ways to get their players in position. But
Speaker 6: it's really not all about scheme. It's what Patrick's talking about.
Speaker 6: They physically beat you up, and they beat you up
Speaker 6: with the you know, we talked a lot about the
Speaker 6: right side of that offensive line for the forty nine ers,
Speaker 6: a tip of the cap, helmet, stickers, game balls, whatever
Speaker 6: you want to give them. That crew held up pretty
Speaker 6: well on that right side. Mckivitz and Beaufort did a
Speaker 6: great job over there. You know, they had to double
Speaker 6: Michael a couple of times. They had a great plan
Speaker 6: for him when you watched him. They even moved him
Speaker 6: over on the other side to try and get some
Speaker 6: work against Trent Wimson. They were helping Trent Williams over there.
Speaker 6: So they had a plan for hand how to handle.
Speaker 2: Micah in this football game.
Speaker 6: But you know, it's the huge plays on defense is
Speaker 6: you know, I think they were just backbreaking plays.
Speaker 2: And you know a great job of.
Speaker 6: The forty nine ers kind of understanding what your coverage
Speaker 6: was going to be, how to get the matchups that
Speaker 6: they were able to.
Speaker 2: You know, whether the one time I thought it was brilliant.
Speaker 6: They they take us check and put him in motion.
Speaker 6: He's next duke, but he's got Hooker over the top
Speaker 6: of him in coverage. Well they run him in motion,
Speaker 6: which makes Hooker go across, and then all of a
Speaker 6: sudden it's one on one on the outside and now
Speaker 6: the ball's going ayuk for a big game. So what
Speaker 6: they do is they affect you with the movement and
Speaker 6: then you're one on one and then.
Speaker 2: It's a big play.
Speaker 6: So tip of the cap to the forty nine ers
Speaker 6: for the way they played physically, the way that they uh,
Speaker 6: the way they schemed you. And but yeah, your your
Speaker 6: bread and butter is your ability to play defense and
Speaker 6: get pressure. And the times you got pressure, you gave
Speaker 6: some huge chunk plays and that that was that was
Speaker 6: a big problem in that game.
Speaker 7: I thought by the time you were done, I was
Speaker 7: gonna be able to get my heart rate down. I'm
Speaker 7: pretty trying to contain myself, say.
Speaker 8: With your chiss.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I don't know.
Speaker 7: I mean, just okay, hold on, let me get my
Speaker 7: I'm just very trying not to cry because of the game.
Speaker 7: I'm just very emotional right now with all the heartbreaking,
Speaker 7: scary stuff that's currently happening in the world right now.
Speaker 7: And then okay, you gotta sit here and talk about this,
Speaker 7: and I apologize for my emotions right now, just a
Speaker 7: lot going on, but then we got to sit here
Speaker 7: talk about this game, and right now, specifically talking about football,
Speaker 7: I just feel like there's not a whole lot of
Speaker 7: hope or like things to look forward to. You start
Speaker 7: the season thinking you have all the right tools, and
Speaker 7: once again and again, these tears are not because of football,
Speaker 7: So let me okay, I'm not crying because of football.
Speaker 7: But you start a season having new hopes again and
Speaker 7: thinking you got all the right weapons, and once again,
Speaker 7: by the all the amount of years I've been here,
Speaker 7: I'm like, every time I've learned my lesson, I'm like,
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna be full. I'm not going to be
Speaker 7: full fall for it. But heading into the season, this
Speaker 7: was I really felt that they have all the right tools,
Speaker 7: the right coaching, the right players, the right talent. You
Speaker 7: were changing system offensively and you think, okay, maybe that's
Speaker 7: gonna be improvement. You know, maybe Mike McCarthy learned from
Speaker 7: what Kellen Moore was doing, not doing what was right,
Speaker 7: what was wrong, and decided to kind of change things
Speaker 7: around and operate a different way and implement that for
Speaker 7: it to be getting better. And it hasn't. The offense
Speaker 7: hasn't been click. And then all of a sudden you
Speaker 7: have the defense that you were holding onto all this
Speaker 7: season and then all of a sudden starting to crumble
Speaker 7: and a lot of injury. They've taken a hit there,
Speaker 7: but there were no signs of anything that was exciting
Speaker 7: or anything that you think and you talk about all
Speaker 7: the pressure like that was not present there. So every
Speaker 7: facet of the game, there were so many things, so
Speaker 7: many different things that were lacking. And it's hard, and
Speaker 7: I get that there's a lot of football to play.
Speaker 7: It's a long season, but currently this Monday, it just
Speaker 7: feels like, how are you going to fix this problem
Speaker 7: fast enough? How are you going to improve on defense
Speaker 7: when now you're starting to get injuries and crumble. How
Speaker 7: are you going to fix this offense that just cannot
Speaker 7: simply click, and we know they have playmakers, but things
Speaker 7: are just simply not working for them. So it's just
Speaker 7: it's tough to see kind of the big picture. It's
Speaker 7: tough to see the areas where you fell, Like even
Speaker 7: last weekend against the Patriots, where you thought the offense
Speaker 7: was starting to kind of click and get moving and
Speaker 7: then all of a sudden, all of that goes away
Speaker 7: against the team that keeps beating you. This is the
Speaker 7: third time in a row. So it's just like one
Speaker 7: of those things where you're like, Okay, what what do
Speaker 7: we currently have to look forward to right now? What's
Speaker 7: an area of Like you're like, okay, well we have this,
Speaker 7: well we have Mica Parsons. Well that didn't he didn't
Speaker 7: show up last night, or so it's just it's hard
Speaker 7: to find anything positive at this moment.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's what you have to look at is
Speaker 6: that is a unique football team that you played last night.
Speaker 6: That is a there's a reason why, and I think
Speaker 6: a lot of circles people would have them even before
Speaker 6: the Dallas game, would have them as the best team
Speaker 6: in the National Football League. You could talk about Buffalo
Speaker 6: and you know, they went across the you know to
Speaker 6: England and got beat by by Jacksonville, so they're kind
Speaker 6: of back.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: Last week they have they beat the Dolphins, so they're
Speaker 6: up and yeah, you know, you're going to play some
Speaker 6: games along the way. Yeah, there's gonna be some difficult matchups.
Speaker 6: We'll see how you know, this Charger one plays out.
Speaker 6: The injuries are a tough part of this thing. Losing
Speaker 6: Digs a few weeks ago, very difficult.
Speaker 2: Thing to have to deal with.
Speaker 6: But the thing that kind of I know about going
Speaker 6: and moving on and you try and put it behind you,
Speaker 6: you try and learn, is that that team you play,
Speaker 6: I don't think I'm going to face another one like that.
Speaker 2: I really don't.
Speaker 6: You know, we'll see what Philadelphia brings. Heck, we'll even
Speaker 6: see what the Chargers.
Speaker 2: Bring offensively and scheme wise.
Speaker 6: But the way that they the way their personnel is,
Speaker 6: the way that they're coach, the way that they They
Speaker 6: smothered you yesterday, and there's very few teams in the
Speaker 6: league that could really smother.
Speaker 2: You, and they did a great job of that yesterday.
Speaker 6: So your hope is that there are there things, you know, McCarthy,
Speaker 6: the thing that bothers me the most and maybe this
Speaker 6: is where I'm kind of sad like you in this way.
Speaker 6: Is Mike McCarthy stands up in front of you guys
Speaker 6: last night in the media and says, I.
Speaker 2: Need to be better.
Speaker 6: You know, I need to be better with the red
Speaker 6: zone stuff. I need to be called the game I
Speaker 6: need to do, you know. And I'm like, okay, but
Speaker 6: I need you to be better now. I don't need
Speaker 6: you to every week tell me you need to be better, sir.
Speaker 6: You're the primary play caller. You're the one that decided
Speaker 6: because of your position that you can move on and
Speaker 6: take the play calling role and then bring in Brian
Speaker 6: Schottenheimer to help you and then make a bunch of
Speaker 6: changes offensively. One of the things we talked about at
Speaker 6: training camp was we were worried about with all the
Speaker 6: changes in the coaching staff. I know, I was, you know,
Speaker 6: and you're thinking, well, this defense, this offense really just
Speaker 6: isn't clicking like it needs.
Speaker 2: To click, and you know, is it.
Speaker 6: I don't recognize that quarterback out there, the quarterback I've
Speaker 6: seen play here has Maybe maybe I'm okay with living
Speaker 6: with the interceptions if I know he's gonna if I
Speaker 6: know he's going to attack and throw the ball eight
Speaker 6: yards every time he throws the ball. But if he's
Speaker 6: throwing the ball short on third and five and they're
Speaker 6: getting three yards.
Speaker 2: You know that That's That's.
Speaker 6: The thing that makes me pause and think, well, this
Speaker 6: needs to be fixed. And maybe it needs to be
Speaker 6: fixed in a way I don't know right now, but
Speaker 6: there's I know I'm not going to play a defense
Speaker 6: and an offense that's like that bunch until later on
Speaker 6: in the year.
Speaker 2: Maybe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's what And you circled it back around
Speaker 5: in a great way for me and to to segue
Speaker 5: to the following.
Speaker 3: That's the problem I have with it.
Speaker 5: It's that you can we believe they can handle the
Speaker 5: Philadelphia Eagles, even if you split that series. We know
Speaker 5: they can handle the Giants. We know they can handle
Speaker 5: the Commanders. You can handle the majority of your division
Speaker 5: to the point where you you could probably stack on
Speaker 5: some outside wins. And yeah, I believe this team will
Speaker 5: get into the playoffs. I do believe they're going to
Speaker 5: get tough though. Yeah, it might be absolutely agree especially
Speaker 5: if they keep playing up and down exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but once you get in the.
Speaker 5: Playoffs, let's say you do go on a heater, right,
Speaker 5: you get hot at the right time.
Speaker 2: Guess who you're going to likely meet in.
Speaker 5: Them the same team that beats you the last three times.
Speaker 5: But two out of those three times demoralized you, bullied you,
Speaker 5: humiliated you.
Speaker 2: That's what's concerning for me.
Speaker 5: There is now very clearly a red and gold wall
Speaker 5: between the Cowboys and any possible shot at a super Bowl.
Speaker 4: But here's the thing, and I agree with what you
Speaker 4: guys are saying, but I'm a little bit in a
Speaker 4: situation where the best way I can describe it is,
Speaker 4: if you've ever known anybody who's had to deal with
Speaker 4: infidelity in their marriage, I've known some people like that,
Speaker 4: and one of the things they always say is it
Speaker 4: now makes me question everything, Like I start to think back,
Speaker 4: like what did I do? What did I not see?
Speaker 4: Who is this person I thought I knew? All those
Speaker 4: things kind of come up. And that's what's happening to
Speaker 4: me right now with the Cowboys. I'm looking at them
Speaker 4: now and I'm saying I thought going into this game
Speaker 4: they were something that this game has made me rethink
Speaker 4: if I think they're that right.
Speaker 3: They have beaten some really really bad teams.
Speaker 4: Let's be clear the way the Giants are playing and
Speaker 4: the way New England's playing, they may be two of
Speaker 4: the worst. They may be picking one and two next year.
Speaker 4: They like they are playing horribly. So we know the
Speaker 4: Cowboys beat up on some bad teams, right, They beat
Speaker 4: the Jets, just not a great team. They lost Arizona
Speaker 4: in convincing fashion, it wasn't a close game, and then
Speaker 4: they get it handed.
Speaker 3: To them in San Francisco. And what I'm left with
Speaker 3: is is this.
Speaker 4: Team just not only just not good enough to be
Speaker 4: San Francisco, but are they really more of an average
Speaker 4: team or maybe a little bit above average that can
Speaker 4: really destroy bad teams that can't figure them out early.
Speaker 4: You get a lead on them, and they can just
Speaker 4: destroy those teams. And when it comes to the average
Speaker 4: to better teams, they're gonna be kind of fifty to
Speaker 4: fifty and the best teams in the league. Maybe they
Speaker 4: can't compete in that way. Like that's the part that
Speaker 4: now I'm left wrestling with because I don't have enough
Speaker 4: of the sample size to tell me what I thought
Speaker 4: I saw of this team going back to training camp
Speaker 4: is what actually exists.
Speaker 7: Well, and then there was nothing in this game like
Speaker 7: literally nothing other than the two touchdowns or like seeded
Speaker 7: Lamb getting in the end zone and then you got
Speaker 7: Kavanta turping sorry in there as well. Other than that,
Speaker 7: there's like nothing else that was promising. You talk about
Speaker 7: a game that we've been talking about since they lost
Speaker 7: against them in the playoffs. We've this has been building up,
Speaker 7: building up, building up week one. The media every time,
Speaker 7: every week it gets brought up, forty nine ers, forty
Speaker 7: nine ers, and then we get here and you just thought,
Speaker 7: and I shouldn't say this because I'm not them, I'm
Speaker 7: not in there. I don't know how they feel, but
Speaker 7: you just thought you would see a lot more fight
Speaker 7: in the game, and there wasn't that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dak.
Speaker 6: Last week, you know, with Todd Archer's question was asked
Speaker 6: about pissed, you know, and he was and that was
Speaker 6: his Yeah, that was his attitude about it. And you're
Speaker 6: absolutely right. There was a lot talked about. There was
Speaker 6: even things changes made to the roster, you know, in
Speaker 6: getting preparation to try and find a way to beat
Speaker 6: San Francisco. So that's what makes it even more demoralizing.
Speaker 6: If you're you know, if you're you know, a cot
Speaker 6: if you're you know on that side of the building
Speaker 6: over there, that a lot was put into this game,
Speaker 6: and you know they I'm not going to say they
Speaker 6: weren't ready to play, because I think they were ready
Speaker 6: to play.
Speaker 2: I just think the team they played and and I'm
Speaker 2: not sitting there patting myself, but I picked that team.
Speaker 2: I picked San Francisco to win.
Speaker 6: When we all went around the room, I just felt
Speaker 6: like but I felt like the game was going to
Speaker 6: be a lot closer. I just some of the things
Speaker 6: scheme wise, gave me pause that can the Cowboys really
Speaker 6: handle this? And obviously they can't. They can't handle what
Speaker 6: San Francisco does defensively, and they surely can't handle uh,
Speaker 6: you know, at least in this matchup. The previous two
Speaker 6: they played pretty well on defense. The defense wasn't the problem.
Speaker 6: Everybody was kind of hanging their hat on Well, wait
Speaker 6: a minute, Dan Quinn's got to handle on this Kyle
Speaker 6: Shanahan offense. But Kyle Shanahan said, no, not today, Dan,
Speaker 6: not today. And you know, so that's that's your problem
Speaker 6: right there, that that you know what things you we
Speaker 6: all thought were really not And to your point, they
Speaker 6: have it, you know, have they you can only play
Speaker 6: who's on your stat Absolutely, you can only play so
Speaker 6: But you know, you lose to Arizona, and you know,
Speaker 6: you're like, well that was bad, you know, after you
Speaker 6: see what Arizona's doing right now. But I don't think
Speaker 6: there's any shame to lose into San Francisco because of
Speaker 6: the type of team they are. But if this kind
Speaker 6: of spirals into continued bad play, and to Patrick's point,
Speaker 6: this Texas Coast offense that we don't ever see any
Speaker 6: movement from.
Speaker 7: It, you gotta score, like and your defense kept you
Speaker 7: in the first half game and can you exhausted your
Speaker 7: defense and yet you're not able to score at some
Speaker 7: point your defense can do it all for you.
Speaker 6: And then and this is the conversation you have in
Speaker 6: June in the off season, when you say, Week seven,
Speaker 6: don't be surprised at Brian Schottenheimer's calling plays. That's the
Speaker 6: conversation that you start in June. You know, if you
Speaker 6: start to look at the season and you say, and
Speaker 6: we do it in the radio all the time, you know,
Speaker 6: talk you have, don't be surprised that Brian Schottenheimer's calling plays.
Speaker 6: After the after the Chargers game, if you know that's
Speaker 6: the you know, something has to be done differently. But
Speaker 6: also we talked about this, they changed their entire coaching staff.
Speaker 2: Now that was something that we were concerned about. It's
Speaker 2: not working the way it needs to work. Right now,
Speaker 2: all that's a good problem.
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Speaker 4: We're going to come back and we'll dive into a
Speaker 4: little more of the details of this game. We'll talk
Speaker 4: about the offense and the defense and where things really
Speaker 4: went wrong.
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Speaker 4: All right, here we go. Let's talk about the offense yesterday.
Speaker 4: They had one hundred and ninety seven total yards that's it,
Speaker 4: fifty seven on the ground, one hundred and forty passing.
Speaker 4: Three of their verse four possessions were three and outs.
Speaker 4: One of the possessions they had a fumble on first down, which,
Speaker 4: by the way, if you haven't had a chance to
Speaker 4: go back and look at that as you talk about
Speaker 4: Brian the all twenty two players, go go see Fred
Speaker 4: Werner Warner and it wasn't necessarily when he knocked the
Speaker 4: ball out. You got to see what happened earlier in
Speaker 4: the play with Tyler Biadish to tell you everything you
Speaker 4: need to know. Like as as we were about to
Speaker 4: go in there, I mentioned that my guy Marcus Banger
Speaker 4: that I made up on Friday, and he showed up
Speaker 4: at this game, we need it.
Speaker 7: What was mixed?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but no, Fred Warner, he had an impact
Speaker 4: on that game and on that play particularly, But that
Speaker 4: was just one of those six of those six first possessions.
Speaker 4: You're talking about five of them ending within three three
Speaker 4: plays and one of them being a turnover.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh, and then they do get a touchdown on one
Speaker 4: of them. So my question for you guys is, if
Speaker 4: you had to narrow it down, and I don't know
Speaker 4: that you can even do this, but if you have
Speaker 4: to narrow it down to the thing that you think
Speaker 4: was the biggest problem on the offense, what was the
Speaker 4: biggest problem on offense yesterday?
Speaker 6: I think the fact when I watched that game and
Speaker 6: I got it, watched it at six this morning again,
Speaker 6: and uh, the thing that bothered me the most was
Speaker 6: I felt like that if they blocked the front, they
Speaker 6: could get the ball to these receivers down the field,
Speaker 6: and these receivers didn't get open and to save their
Speaker 6: you know what it was, it was tough.
Speaker 13: Uh.
Speaker 6: You know when you look at Ward and and uh,
Speaker 6: those guys, I mean that it's it's it's it was
Speaker 6: impressive leonor those guys they did a great job of
Speaker 6: running with these receivers. The safety play was really good
Speaker 6: for them. Well you mentioned the linebackers. You know, there
Speaker 6: was there was times where Dak just really it felt
Speaker 6: like he wanted to throw the ball a little bit
Speaker 6: more down.
Speaker 2: The field and they just couldn't do it.
Speaker 6: They just could not get I think Michael Gallup was
Speaker 6: it was a struggle for him to get off the jam.
Speaker 2: Lamb was.
Speaker 6: You could tell he was a little bit frustrated by
Speaker 6: what was going on. But you know, the one big
Speaker 6: play that he made was Dak climb in the pocket
Speaker 6: and then him coming back to the ball, and you
Speaker 6: kind of thought, okay, see those is what I thought
Speaker 6: they were going to be capable of being able to do.
Speaker 6: But this this this receiving group, it was a rough,
Speaker 6: rough day. And if you look at the offensive line,
Speaker 6: Tyler Smith was not very good in this football game,
Speaker 6: and I think that that hurt them a little bit.
Speaker 2: Be oddish was it was a struggle.
Speaker 6: Still had a couple of moments, but you know, there
Speaker 6: were there were some times I just think if I
Speaker 6: had to point to one thing, it was really about
Speaker 6: the wide receivers in ability to shake loose in that
Speaker 6: secondary that had given up some plays.
Speaker 5: I think you hit both points. I think both points
Speaker 5: are tied together. The Cowboys offensive line, first time they've
Speaker 5: played together since Moses split the Red Sea, and it
Speaker 5: kind of showed as far as lack of chemistry and
Speaker 5: some of those combo blocks and things like that. So,
Speaker 5: you know, they struggled, Like Brian said Terrence Steele, who
Speaker 5: has played exceptionally well, he struggled on a couple of reps.
Speaker 5: And Tyler Smith struggled on a couple of reps and
Speaker 5: be out of struggle on a couple of reps. And
Speaker 5: I mean when you combine that with lack of separation
Speaker 5: from your receivers, yeah, you know you're in a really
Speaker 5: bad spot. I'm sitting here looking at these separation rates
Speaker 5: from from yesterday, and Jake Ferguson as a receiving target
Speaker 5: was the only one one who had a respectable average
Speaker 5: separation where he was four point seven. Other than that,
Speaker 5: Ceedee Lamb two point six, Gallop one point nine. Even
Speaker 5: Turpin on his big play, he's still average two point four.
Speaker 5: I mean, they just were not getting away from these
Speaker 5: these cornerbacks. And you know, I think Jake Ferguson was
Speaker 5: the cool hand Luke of the group, so to speak.
Speaker 5: I mean, we saw Dak try to take that shot
Speaker 5: on the you know, deep over the middle to schoolmaker
Speaker 5: and that didn't work out. But once he started getting
Speaker 5: Jake involved, here's one target for Jake Grab, another target
Speaker 5: for Jake Grab, another target for Jake Grab. But then
Speaker 5: it stopped like there was there were no more targets
Speaker 5: for Jake Ferguson after he went three for three and
Speaker 5: he was the only one who was delivering. So when
Speaker 5: you see lack of separation combined with your offensive line
Speaker 5: struggles and you actually find a solution, the solution being
Speaker 5: Jake Ferguson, and then you get away from that, that's
Speaker 5: concerning so that it's just a mosh pit of unwillness
Speaker 5: that we saw in Santa Clarias.
Speaker 6: It's sad when Mike when Pollard was like your best
Speaker 6: pass blocker in this game, I mean, you really, I
Speaker 6: mean he picked up a couple of times that gave
Speaker 6: him a shot to at least have a chance to
Speaker 6: make a play.
Speaker 2: But you know, it was tough.
Speaker 6: I just I just felt like that the cowboys out
Speaker 6: on the outside could win a little bit more than
Speaker 6: they were because the metrics, the numbers, everything, even the
Speaker 6: tape tape showed you that the forty nine ers had
Speaker 6: had some problems underneath with some of their coverages, but
Speaker 6: they challenged Dallas's receivers, and Dallas's receivers just weren't up
Speaker 6: to it yesterday.
Speaker 7: Do you guys know what happened between CD and Dak.
Speaker 7: I heard about it. I didn't even watch it where
Speaker 7: there was like some kind.
Speaker 5: Of it just looked like it was just frustration spilling over. Basically,
Speaker 5: we're talking about the offense that was struggling last night
Speaker 5: and could not get things going at all. And you
Speaker 5: mentioned in earlier ceed Lamb, he you know, and we're
Speaker 5: talking about it. Lamb and the other receivers. They just
Speaker 5: couldn't get the separation. And then when they got the separation,
Speaker 5: where was the ball going? Was it going to them?
Speaker 5: Was it not going to them? You look at that
Speaker 5: deep play over the middle of Brandon Cooks. If I know,
Speaker 5: Dak was under the rest and he was escaping out
Speaker 5: of the pocket, and that's a very difficult throw, level
Speaker 5: of difficulty on the scale of one to ten eleven.
Speaker 5: But we've also seen Dak make that throw. So if
Speaker 5: that ball gets out a little bit sooner he throws
Speaker 5: it more up more upfield, and credit had it he
Speaker 5: had some separation. Yeah, and credit the Fred Warner because
Speaker 5: holy crap, what is this dude made up?
Speaker 3: He covering? Feel like that's that's.
Speaker 5: But nonetheless, if the ball is this placed where it
Speaker 5: needs to be placed, maybe a little bit higher field,
Speaker 5: Cooks at least has a shot, and we're talking about
Speaker 5: a completely different ball game because it steals momentum again
Speaker 5: in a big way. So it was just it's frustration
Speaker 5: boiling over. And when you're see thee Lamb and you know,
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago, you hang almost one hundred
Speaker 5: and fifty against the Jets, and then you kind of
Speaker 5: struggle a little bit against the Cardinals. You saw him
Speaker 5: frustrated against the Cardinals. They bounce back against the Patriots
Speaker 5: and then here we go again. So I think it's
Speaker 5: I think it's the offense, the offensive frustration because when
Speaker 5: your Lamb and your Dak and your Cooks and your
Speaker 5: gallop and you're you know, Ferguson, you know what this
Speaker 5: offense can be based off what we saw in training camp.
Speaker 5: And when we say we're going off of what we
Speaker 5: saw in training camp. This isn't a bad defense. This
Speaker 5: is one of the best defenses in the league. So
Speaker 5: these are the training camp practices. So if you can
Speaker 5: do it against that defense, then you should be able
Speaker 5: to do it against the forty nine ers defense. The
Speaker 5: fact that you can't is what's concerning, and that's what
Speaker 5: frustrated well, those guys.
Speaker 7: When it comes to frustration, and that's natural, we all
Speaker 7: go through it, especially when you're competing in games and
Speaker 7: things are not going your way, You're gonna get frustrated.
Speaker 7: But that carrying over, Like, at what point, and I'm
Speaker 7: not saying this is the case whatsoever, but we see
Speaker 7: it happen around the NFL. What point does your team,
Speaker 7: your offense, let's say that group of guys start kind
Speaker 7: of becoming disconnected and let's say not really believing what
Speaker 7: McCarthy is trying to sell and implement in them because
Speaker 7: it's simply not working more with them when you go,
Speaker 7: when you go from what you had with Kellen Moore
Speaker 7: and then being the number one offense in the league
Speaker 7: and then now you're consistently having these struggles. And that's
Speaker 7: not me putting everything on McCarthy whatsoever. Because you're just.
Speaker 6: The forty nine ers either if you look at it,
Speaker 6: I mean the two games, Yeah, I mean absolutely. But
Speaker 6: I think the thing the biggest thing to me about
Speaker 6: with CD, I think CD is trying to fight for
Speaker 6: a contract. I think that's something that's weighing on him
Speaker 6: right now about his situation, you know, the lack of
Speaker 6: some productivity. We mentioned about the jet. You know, he
Speaker 6: wants to every week. He's a super competitive guy, but
Speaker 6: he's also fighting to get a new deal. And I
Speaker 6: think that's something that you know, that weighs on a
Speaker 6: lot of these guys. Mind, if I'm not doing I'm
Speaker 6: not having success, why do they you know, will they
Speaker 6: move on for me?
Speaker 2: Will they not pay me? Will they not you know
Speaker 2: all those things.
Speaker 6: So I think there's a culmination of the offensive frustration
Speaker 6: player frustration because he seemed like I've got to perform
Speaker 6: in order to to you know, get my contract taken
Speaker 6: care of. That's that's difficult, that's tough to go through
Speaker 6: for a play.
Speaker 7: But I mean in a game, are you thinking that
Speaker 7: way though?
Speaker 6: Well, I think he's thinking like if I don't, if
Speaker 6: I want to do well, I want to show these
Speaker 6: I want to I want to help us win. But
Speaker 6: by helping us win, I feel like I'm going to
Speaker 6: get taken compensated for that. You know, that's I think
Speaker 6: that I think that's something that's a little bit of
Speaker 6: a you know, from from hearing from talking to people,
Speaker 6: City really liked killing Moore, he really likes killing more.
Speaker 6: He liked the offense, he liked that style of offense.
Speaker 6: And so it's a transitioner. It's a change for a
Speaker 6: lot of these guys. It's just not been real smooth
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 4: It just has Going back to your your question, Amber,
Speaker 4: I do think and Dak talked about it last night,
Speaker 4: this is a critical time for this team because after
Speaker 4: you suffer a loss like that, if you don't have
Speaker 4: the right kind of culture, it's easy to start seeing fractures.
Speaker 4: You can start seeing fractures between the quarterback and the receivers,
Speaker 4: you can start seeing fractures between the defense and the offense.
Speaker 4: There are a number of different ways where you can
Speaker 4: start seeing the team start to fracture because people start
Speaker 4: pointing fingers, right, And that's where Dak was like, you know,
Speaker 4: this is a moment when we have to rely on
Speaker 4: our culture, on our locker room on the guys in
Speaker 4: that locker room and stay tight, because not only do
Speaker 4: they have last night to look at, but now everybody
Speaker 4: around the country is looking at.
Speaker 3: Them saying, yeah they ain't is good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we knew they wasn't as good, right, and they've
Speaker 4: got to deal with that all the way through the season.
Speaker 3: No matter what happens.
Speaker 4: Everybody's still going to pay back to but San Francisco,
Speaker 4: right and so and so. To answer your point, yes,
Speaker 4: this is a moment when there definitely can be fractures
Speaker 4: and you have to worry about how does this team
Speaker 4: respond to this, because if you don't stay tight, if
Speaker 4: they don't stay tight, this thing can get off.
Speaker 3: The rails really quickly. Yeah, you know, you got fifty
Speaker 3: three men in that in that locker room. It can
Speaker 3: get off the rails really quickly if they don't stay tight.
Speaker 6: They have some incredible record though, and it was nine one,
Speaker 6: ten and one, yeah this last one, Yeah.
Speaker 2: After a loss.
Speaker 6: So you know, if you're you know, if you're if
Speaker 6: you're thinking of that, if you want to hang your
Speaker 6: hat on something some hopium, then that's something that you
Speaker 6: know that's back hope.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're back to hoping, you know, we bring it
Speaker 7: out every year.
Speaker 6: You want to hopiam that that's you know McCarthy, will
Speaker 6: you know they find a way to rally. They find
Speaker 6: a way to But they're gonna have to They're gonna
Speaker 6: have to play. They're gonna have to play better. But
Speaker 6: I think a lot of it has to do with
Speaker 6: the with the problems they had yesterday, was a lot
Speaker 6: on that team that they played.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that team.
Speaker 6: Is that's no fun that I bet you if I
Speaker 6: go back, I bet you we go back and add
Speaker 6: up games after you play that team. How many times
Speaker 6: you think the team's lost after they've played the forty
Speaker 6: nine Ers. The Steelers used to be that way. You
Speaker 6: played the Steelers the next week, you were guaranteed to lose.
Speaker 6: They took that much out of you. This team, this
Speaker 6: team out there, they tackle, their physical, They play with
Speaker 6: finesse when they have to. They scheme guys open. The
Speaker 6: quarterback is is relentless in the way he reads and
Speaker 6: find guys. All his touchdown passes were outside the pocket,
Speaker 6: all of them. Bo just move, move, move around, book
Speaker 6: find a guy here. Find But you just see that
Speaker 6: that's a hard team to defend. And it's an even
Speaker 6: harder team when it comes to with that front the
Speaker 6: way they played, but their their secondary really I think
Speaker 6: won that game for him yesterday by the way they covered,
Speaker 6: and we hadn't seen that. We've seen their front play great,
Speaker 6: we haven't seen their secondary cover like that. I'm sure
Speaker 6: they're thinking of the same thing right now watching that tape.
Speaker 4: We're gonna take our final break when we come back.
Speaker 4: I did want to ask you, Brian. I know you
Speaker 4: were able to watch the tape. I wanted to ask
Speaker 4: particularly about that first touchdown in San Francisco, Scoot and
Speaker 4: what you saw on that play.
Speaker 2: We'll be back.
Speaker 4: We'll talk a little bit more about the defense. As
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Speaker 4: It is a final segment of the Break Life in
Speaker 4: s WBC Mortgage Studios.
Speaker 2: At the Star.
Speaker 4: I will say this, I woke up this morning after
Speaker 4: only a couple hours of sleep, and I felt horrible,
Speaker 4: as you typically do after a game like that, when
Speaker 4: you've been traveling and have no sleep.
Speaker 7: Especially you losing in all fastest, just like the you.
Speaker 3: Really have to bring you really have to bring it up.
Speaker 4: Feel But one thing I have noticed is low blow
Speaker 4: talking about it helps. Sitting here having this conversation with y'all,
Speaker 4: I actually feel a little bit better.
Speaker 3: So I'm hoping for those people out there listening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, people that out there listening, I'm hoping they're
Speaker 4: getting the same thing, right.
Speaker 2: I hope as.
Speaker 4: They're listening to the show, not that they feel better
Speaker 4: about the team, but just actually just going through it.
Speaker 4: Talking get out just makes you feel a little bit flippers.
Speaker 3: Yeah right now, help a little bit.
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe the Eagles, maybe the Lions. I don't know
Speaker 6: who else you're gonna play has an offense like that.
Speaker 4: Oh me tell you this December, if we don't know
Speaker 4: enough about this team, December, because you got Miami. You
Speaker 4: got Seattle at home, you got Philly at home. Then
Speaker 4: you go to Buffalo, then you go to Miami, then
Speaker 4: you get I'm sorry, Troy at home and Sandwich. Between
Speaker 4: all that, you got the Washington Commanders on the front
Speaker 4: end and on the back end, which they're not a
Speaker 4: good team, but they always play Dallas. So you look
Speaker 4: at that like November through December January timeframe.
Speaker 7: That is not hope you're talking about here.
Speaker 4: That's why, that's why I was so worried, Like man,
Speaker 4: I thought the beginning of the seasons when they had
Speaker 4: to really put some stuff together, because that's going to
Speaker 4: be tough. Even if they would have been the team
Speaker 4: I expected them to be.
Speaker 3: That was going to be tough. But you lose that
Speaker 3: game in Arizona, that's a big one.
Speaker 4: You needed to win that game, and I got San
Speaker 4: Diego coming up, San Diego La Charges coming up, and
Speaker 4: this becomes a very very important game for you. So
Speaker 4: there's there's a lot more football to be played. But man,
Speaker 4: it certainly is something that that change. You've changed your
Speaker 4: outlook right now based upon what you saw.
Speaker 5: That which you certainly can't do not. I mean, like
Speaker 5: like Brian said, this is one of those games where
Speaker 5: kind of like the Pittsburgh of yesteryear. I mean, you
Speaker 5: get brutalized, and I mean, look at the way the
Speaker 5: injuries are racking up, yl I mean, you were getting brutalized.
Speaker 5: But you better find a way to pull it together
Speaker 5: because you don't want to drop too straight going into
Speaker 5: the bye. We you can have to sit on that
Speaker 5: for two weeks that you just you just.
Speaker 2: Don't so play forward, change ready, figured.
Speaker 7: It out, figured out, you're calling it now.
Speaker 2: I said in June.
Speaker 6: Oh god, I said in June, I said, you know
Speaker 6: you always do crazy predictions. I said, week seven, Yeah,
Speaker 6: I said, Week seven, my crazy prediction. You know Nick
Speaker 6: always loves crazy predictions. Nick Eatman, give me your crazy prediction.
Speaker 6: You know, we used to do that all the time.
Speaker 6: And that was my crazy prediction that to Brian shot
Speaker 6: and becoming plays a Week seven.
Speaker 4: I mentioned before we went to break, I wanted to
Speaker 4: talk specifically about that first touchdown.
Speaker 2: I got you.
Speaker 4: I think it was emblematic of what happened throughout the
Speaker 4: game as far as just ways that it seemed like
Speaker 4: San Francisco was able to confuse the Dallas defense and
Speaker 4: make big plays out of it. Brian, what did you
Speaker 4: see in that nineteen yard touchdown to Kittle?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the one that's uh, And we were talking
Speaker 6: about it during the break it. It really was interesting
Speaker 6: because the secondary I thought was in good shape. Across
Speaker 6: the board, they really wore. Everybody was plastered on their guys.
Speaker 6: And but what happens is when Kittle goes up the field,
Speaker 6: it freezes Hooker and he's kind of like, is he
Speaker 6: going to break outside to his right or is he
Speaker 6: going to break inside? And it just it paused him
Speaker 6: enough that when he broke to the inside, he really
Speaker 6: couldn't adjust fast enough to get that over to him.
Speaker 6: But Hooker might have thought Bell was playing. And then again,
Speaker 6: here's an inexperienced guy playing. And that's not an excuse,
Speaker 6: but here he is in a situation where he's playing
Speaker 6: as a drop linebacker basically, and he's and he's trying
Speaker 6: to get depth and he's looking for a crosser to
Speaker 6: his right, and but Kittle hadn't crossed yet, and so
Speaker 6: he's still kind of dropping and then he stops and
Speaker 6: he looks back and there's Kittle now crossing, and now
Speaker 6: it's too late, so he's in behind, so now you
Speaker 6: have and it was a great job by you know,
Speaker 6: by Purty defined Kittle is a great route. The routes,
Speaker 6: all the routes that Kill scored on were actually pretty
Speaker 6: cool routes. But he's a really kind of a loose runner,
Speaker 6: and so when his about a nod and it kind
Speaker 6: of gets you to overplay and then he goes back inside.
Speaker 6: He did that to uh to Donovan Wilson on the touchdown,
Speaker 6: kind of nodded Wilson and then he got him back inside.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was everybody was in good shape.
Speaker 6: It's just the quarterback found the one guy where the
Speaker 6: Cowboys were really struggling to try and try and to
Speaker 6: take care of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just it seemed to me like it was
Speaker 4: a little bit I don't know, I question what the
Speaker 4: assignments were because it looked like everybody said, it looked
Speaker 4: like everybody was in man coverage except for whoever would
Speaker 4: have been on killed right, And if it was Hooker,
Speaker 4: then my thought is like, why is Hooker twenty yards
Speaker 4: off of him, like he's almost in the end zone
Speaker 4: and you know in the red zone that Kittle is
Speaker 4: an issue, Like I would have just thought they would
Speaker 4: have had a little they wouldn't have given him as
Speaker 4: much free range to run if you're gonna man him
Speaker 4: up on that safety. But however it came out it
Speaker 4: certainly that would seemed to be the theme of the
Speaker 4: night is they always found that one guy that they
Speaker 4: found a way to get him open, and to get
Speaker 4: him open in a situation where he could not only
Speaker 4: be open, but be open and catch the ball and
Speaker 4: be running and keep running after he Mexican.
Speaker 7: Now, I were able to do quite a few big plays.
Speaker 7: And like we talked about it last week, you brought
Speaker 7: up the whole how many big plays the Cowboys give
Speaker 7: up versus how many big plays the forty nine Ers make?
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you one. I'll tell you one.
Speaker 6: The whole I could be described if you watch the
Speaker 6: forty nine ers last touchdown, the toss sweep to Jordan Mason,
Speaker 6: and that kind of symbolizes everything that went wrong in
Speaker 6: in the in the night. And because it's you get
Speaker 6: everybody got blocked.
Speaker 2: I mean it's the motion block they got. They got to.
Speaker 6: Micah hooked, they kicked out that Wilson got kicked out.
Speaker 2: In the play.
Speaker 6: They get a guy up on vander Esh they you know,
Speaker 6: they get Trent Williams up on vander Esh you know,
Speaker 6: Buford cuts off Clark.
Speaker 2: And you know, and then you know, Noah gets pushed. Why.
Speaker 2: I mean it just everything that could have gone wrong.
Speaker 6: I mean a if you talk about a perfectly blocked
Speaker 6: play like every like if you were to draw it
Speaker 6: up and say, okay, this is the way we want
Speaker 6: to run it. That that play right there. If you said, hey,
Speaker 6: what happened in the Sam Francisco Dallas game, show him
Speaker 6: that one play and everywhere they go, oh.
Speaker 2: Okay, because it was it was it was.
Speaker 6: It was well designed, it was well executed, It was
Speaker 6: well blocked. It was terrible on the Dallas side, the
Speaker 6: angles that the safeties took, how wide people got kicked out,
Speaker 6: Your best player got hooked, your linebacker gets cut off
Speaker 6: from the inside. Everything about that play was how your
Speaker 6: night went. That It's just it's you. You'll see it
Speaker 6: and you'll go, okay, I know what he's talking about.
Speaker 5: Shanahan. Just it was a masterclass of of how to
Speaker 5: get how to scheme your playmakers hoping uh. You talked
Speaker 5: about the first George Kittle touchdown. Talk about the one
Speaker 5: known first down the trick play right, So they come out,
Speaker 5: it's first and ten. It's a single back formation with
Speaker 5: CMC in the backfield, and of course you're looking at
Speaker 5: CMC and and if you're the defense, you're also looking
Speaker 5: at Deebo Samuel right there to the left. And then
Speaker 5: they motioned George Kittle over and it looks like he's
Speaker 5: going to be Chip Hilp. So he feigns the block
Speaker 5: just enough, to his credit, just well enough to make
Speaker 5: them bite on that. So what happens on this.
Speaker 7: Motion stop it?
Speaker 4: But they're getting all their preseas. Yeah, He's like they're
Speaker 4: putting themselves in a position. How many times yesterday did
Speaker 4: you see them get McCaffrey isolated with LV like, because
Speaker 4: when they go in motion, they're trying to see how
Speaker 4: you're going to adapt to that, and based on that,
Speaker 4: they're going to run the play that suits them and
Speaker 4: gives it.
Speaker 6: They're going to come back to a play. Yeah, play
Speaker 6: a next play or three plays yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, to be that offense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's just this. Uh you look at
Speaker 5: this play over and over again, and I mean roses
Speaker 5: to shout to Shanahan for this because this was just nasty.
Speaker 5: It was nasty because you're worried about CMC and this
Speaker 5: first first and tend you're thinking, okay, they got they're
Speaker 5: up thirteens. Early're gonna go ahead and do what they
Speaker 5: got to do here, hand it off maybe, But then
Speaker 5: it's like, oh, crap, here's de Bo on the snap.
Speaker 5: He goes in, so eyes on de Bo, George Kittle
Speaker 5: fangs the block and then he releases out. Now, if
Speaker 5: you're Jordan Lewis, you're like, crap because now George George
Speaker 5: kill is blowing past you. Now as you had your
Speaker 5: eyes so by the time you had just we his speed.
Speaker 5: If you even I'm leaving And that was it. So
Speaker 5: that was it. And you know, flip it back to
Speaker 5: Purty and what does pretty do? Deep ball down the
Speaker 5: right hand side, And that was one of those big
Speaker 5: things that that was more less.
Speaker 6: It's unfortunate on that play too, because Osa wins on
Speaker 6: the play. Osa wins on the block, but he hesitates,
Speaker 6: He hesitates, and then he's trying to kind of find
Speaker 6: the ball and he realizes that Perty has now got
Speaker 6: it and that little hesitation allowed Purtty just enough time
Speaker 6: to get it down the field for the touchdown.
Speaker 3: That's a wrap for us.
Speaker 4: We didn't even get to our player evaluations. We'll bring
Speaker 4: that back tomorrow. We gotta still talk about guys like
Speaker 4: Dak and Cooks and what's happening with this defense. Where
Speaker 4: was Micah yesterday? We got a lot to hit up.
Speaker 4: We'll do that tomorrow. Till then, for Patrick Walker, Brian
Speaker 4: brought us Ambergarcia. I'm Derek Eagleston. This has been The
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