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Speaker 3: As always, we are joined by Tony Pauline from sports

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Speaker 3: keita dot com. Only a week away from the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 3: it is coming fast and furious. A busy show today.

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Speaker 3: We have about eighteen questions from fans. They've done a

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Speaker 3: great job of getting them in. A lot of them

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Speaker 3: are Giants related, but we will get to the ones

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Speaker 3: that aren't are not Giant centric. We have our first

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Speaker 3: round grades from both of us, and then we have

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Speaker 3: our sleepers in this year's draft. So we'll try to

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Speaker 3: motor through this as quickly as possible, so we have

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Speaker 3: some time Tony, anything on sports key to coming up

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Speaker 3: that fan just keep their eye on before we get going.

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Speaker 1: Just all the breaking news as to where what teams

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Speaker 1: trades could happen or what teams could be looking to trade.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna just get louder and louder and louder as

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Speaker 1: we get further away from final draft meetings and closer

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Speaker 3: And then next week we'll have Tony's final mob draft,

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Speaker 3: or at least close to it.

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Speaker 2: That'll be recorded on Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: They might have a couple of changes before we get

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Speaker 3: the draft night, but that'll be all of Tony's latest

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Speaker 3: intel on what he thinks they're doing in the draft,

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Speaker 3: and he's gonna make all the picks, and then it's

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Speaker 3: to push him on stuff. So I'm gonna have fun

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Speaker 3: with that because I have nothing on the line and

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Speaker 3: why don't we go through your first round grades?

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Speaker 1: Here?

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Speaker 2: How many total did you have? And who are the players?

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Speaker 3: Then I'll give you mine and we'll talk about the

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Speaker 1: I had twenty one, which a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: gonna believe is a big number for this year. So

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Speaker 1: I had twenty one solid first round grades. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty pretty I feel pretty good about this. Guys

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of the list, Tyler Warren. I know

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Speaker 1: you know the conversation piece that everyone's talked about literally

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Speaker 1: Is Shador Sanders? Does he deserve a solid first round grade?

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Speaker 1: I gave him one merrily because of what I still

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Speaker 2: But he is on your first round list. I'll go

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Speaker 3: I'll start at the bottom and I'll go to the top.

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Speaker 3: So we have Tyler Warren, Walter Nolan, Josh Simmons, Luther Burden,

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Speaker 3: I have not finished I do linebackers last, so I've

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Speaker 1: Now there's a significant difference. I think that a Baron

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Speaker 3: A couple other difference the ad I have Mike Green

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Speaker 3: in the first round, Tony, you did not, So why

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Speaker 3: is Mike Green out of your first round Greene group?

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Speaker 1: all along I have my concerns about Mike Green playing

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Speaker 2: Why know Derek Harmon is I got to be honest, Tony.

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Speaker 3: When I watched him in more detail, I came away

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Speaker 1: He's just on the outside of it. I like Walter

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Speaker 2: That's funny.

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Speaker 3: My first guys out to Tony were Baron Golden, I

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Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you. You don't have a

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Speaker 1: I do not, and neither do I. I mean so,

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Speaker 1: but Matthew Golden could end up as a twelfth pick

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Speaker 3: No, I do I know I I I might have

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Speaker 2: He's my sixth player in the draft. I love Tet.

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of people talk about it seems

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Speaker 2: I think he's just pacing routes. I don't not that

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Speaker 3: I think for a guy that size, he's really good

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Speaker 1: He's only going to get better. I mean, he has

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Speaker 1: You know. I think in that defense he made a

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Pierce, six foot five, two hundred

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Speaker 3: There wasn't as many as you think. I think we

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Speaker 3: We're gonna start at the running back position. Who do

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Speaker 1: I like Leaquina Allen of Syrahcuse in Day two, Day three,

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Speaker 1: The problem is he's two hundred and four pounds and

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Speaker 1: To start off with Kyle Malnagy from Rutgers, I have

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Speaker 3: But the sixth round is more than fair for him. Tony,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Managhy was just a terrific ball carrier for Rutgers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he carried that Rutgers offense two years ago,

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Speaker 1: He has been the Rutgers offense the past two seasons.

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Speaker 1: A very smart I interviewed him. I mean, he had

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Speaker 1: He's a smart runner. You know, he doesn't time well

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Speaker 1: he plays fast and he's smart and he's instinctive, which

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Speaker 1: I think helps a lot. And then Nate Carter out

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Speaker 1: And you know Nate Carter. When you watch the best

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Speaker 1: you take him late. You know, he's perfectly suited to

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Speaker 1: Carter's got the athleticism.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna throw one guy in for me.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw Bishart Smith in here at our SMU

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Speaker 3: But he's got some stockiness to him. He's not some

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Speaker 3: two hundred pounds. He bounces off tacklers, he has great

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Speaker 2: He makes guys miss.

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Speaker 3: Now, is he ever gonna be your carry the load

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Speaker 3: you have ten carries and five or six catches in

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Speaker 3: think he could be a really good, explosive part time

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Speaker 3: maybe even late round three. I thought I was really

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Speaker 3: impressed with what I saw from Bershard Smith on tape.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, as you know you mentioned former receivers,

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Speaker 1: deal the more physicality in his runs, But I'm sure

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Speaker 3: Sometimes he bounces too much, and I think that's part

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Speaker 2: I'm with you on that, Tony. All right, let's go

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Speaker 2: to wide receiver and tight end. Who do you like?

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Speaker 1: I mean Joshua Simon out of South Carolina. I have

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Speaker 1: a fourth round great on him. Some teams have a

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Speaker 1: much later on six', four two hundred and thirty nine

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Speaker 1: that speed plays athletic. Football not much of a, blocker

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Speaker 1: but they really didn't ask him the Block you, know

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Speaker 1: he gave effort when he was when he you, know

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Speaker 1: he was used as a blocker primarily in, motion catches the. Ball.

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Speaker 1: Well you know one of those guys that is a

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Speaker 1: position like a. RECEIVER i like Both arkansas Receivers Andrew

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Speaker 1: armstrong And Isaac. Tesla armstrong is a guy the production

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Speaker 1: was there two years in a. Row whenever you watch

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Speaker 1: The arkansas, film he's making the contested. Catch he's got

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Speaker 1: a long, frame he's got long. Arms he catches the ball. Incredibly.

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Speaker 1: Well the question about him with, Speed he goes to

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Speaker 1: There you just have to transition that speed onto the football.

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Speaker 1: Field Isaac tesla has the, size has the, speed good pass.

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Speaker 1: Catcher the productivity is just not. There transfer From Hillsdale

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Speaker 1: college kind of got better and better in the last

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Speaker 1: two years he was At, arkansas blew up the. COMBINE

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Speaker 1: i think he's got a tremendous amount of. Upside you

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Speaker 1: take him in the fifth. Round you could have a

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Speaker 1: terrific pass, catcher terrific receiver moving, forward terrific number, four

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Speaker 1: potentially number. THREE i Like Carter, running former receiver who

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Speaker 1: the position like a, receiver which is his former. Position

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Speaker 1: round grade On. Runion had a Decent pro. Day you,

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Speaker 1: know if he gets, drafted it's going to be, very very.

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Speaker 1: Late one guy not on my, list AND i didn't

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Speaker 1: A Ronde gatson Of, syracuse, again former receiver who played

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Speaker 1: saw him at the shrinebl At tribol practices two hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty five pounds and he didn't slow down a.

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Speaker 1: STEP i mean he was. Quick he caught the ball exception.

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Speaker 1: Well he's able to get. Downfield And i've said this

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Speaker 1: time and time, again The Joshua simons of the, World

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Speaker 1: Rondi yatson's of the, World Elijah. ROYA i firmly believe

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Speaker 3: Draft All, Right i'm gonna throw one more name in,

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Speaker 3: here AND i don't know if he's a, sleeper BECAUSE

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Speaker 3: i think he's probably gonna go in the third, round

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Speaker 3: BUT i don't. Know we even talked about him a

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Speaker 3: ton AND i just watched him this past. WEEK i

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Speaker 3: Think Tory horton From Colorado state is an excellent football.

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Speaker 3: Player his production is. FANTASTIC i know he dealt with an,

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Speaker 3: injury but just look at the last couple of years before.

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Speaker 2: That he was a sophomore and he was having a

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Speaker 3: Years he's, tall, tony he's quick getting out of his,

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Speaker 3: breaks he's, fast he's a frequent. TARGET i think he's

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Speaker 3: going to be a really good, player AND i think

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Speaker 3: the team's gonna get a good steal on him coming

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Speaker 2: Injury at the end Of day, two a lot of.

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Speaker 1: UPSIDE i have him as A day three, selection but,

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Speaker 1: STILL i mean highly regarded by scouts the last two,

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Speaker 1: years because he could have entered the twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: draft decided to go. BACK i think he played six,

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Speaker 1: games had twenty five catches or something before the injury

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Speaker 1: set in on A Colorado state team that wasn't that.

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Speaker 1: Great but he's got a lot of upside and to your,

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Speaker 3: Years, now all, right let's go to the defensive line, Position.

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Speaker 3: Tony these are more of your interior. Types so he

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Speaker 3: got a couple of defensive ends in this group.

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Speaker 1: Too want to offensive line?

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Speaker 3: First OH i missed offensive. Line i'm, Sorry, Tony thank

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Speaker 3: you offensive. Line, yes you Have Jalen travis out Of Iowa,

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Speaker 3: State Drew kendall out Of Boston, college and then Another

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Speaker 3: Shrine bowl, Guy Gerrod Christian lichtenhan out Of Oregon.

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Speaker 1: State Jalen, travis The princeton transfer who played right. TACKLE

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Speaker 1: i mean he's, tall he's six, seven six 't, eight

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Speaker 1: NASTY i mean he is a guy that is. Powerful

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Speaker 1: he likes to play, nasty violent, football tries defenders off the,

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Speaker 1: line run, blocking not a bad pass. Protector it's not

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Speaker 1: just doesn't have classic left tackle. Footwork we saw him

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Speaker 1: he's going to be A day three. Pick Drew, kendall

432
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 1: obviously the son Of Pete, kendall the former first round

433
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: pick guard From Boston, college a terrific, center, smart understands the.

434
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 1: Position you can tell his father was a FORMER nfl,

435
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: player gets the most from his. ABILITY i have him

436
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: right now as a fifth round. Pick you can get

437
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: centers In day three that turn out to be real

438
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 1: good starters On, sunday AND i Think Drew kendall's one of.

439
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: THEM a guy who's, overlooked wasn't invited to The Singer.

440
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 1: Bowl we saw him at The. Tribel he's he's very.

441
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: Workmanlike he's not, exceptional he's not an incredibly, ay but

442
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: he's very workman like and he's football. Smart a gerard

443
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 1: Of Christian, lichtenhan like you, said we saw him at

444
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: the at the shribol and you can't miss six three

445
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: and thirty. Pounds he is a massive, lineman but he's

446
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 1: not a big stiff. Guy he's not one of these

447
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 1: guys that just beat people by he's smothering them by engulfing.

448
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: Him he blocks with good. Fundamentals he keeps his feet

449
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: moving a pass protection, obviously he's a right. TACKLE i

450
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: think he's going to be a six to seventh round.

451
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 1: Pick some people have him, earlier BUT i think he's

452
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 1: a real good developmental. Guy once you bring him, along

453
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: he could eventually break into a starting lineup two years

454
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 1: down the. Road actually transferred From colorado To Oregon, state

455
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 1: where he played last. YEAR i thought he was one

456
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: of the Bigger combine. Snubs should have, got should have

457
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: gott an invitation. There you, know you think of a

458
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: guy that, big you, think, well he's an immobile, guy

459
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: not at. All watch him moves well to the second,

460
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: level real good in pass protection as.

461
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 2: Well, YEAH i want to.

462
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 3: Throw a couple guys here real. Quick The Boston college

463
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 3: offensive Tackle Asie. Tripillo he might get a little higher

464
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 3: than people. Think we've been talked about him a. TON

465
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 3: i think you know he's a right tackle not a left.

466
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: Tackle he's a, big power, guy better in the run

467
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 3: than protecting the. Passer BUT i think he could be

468
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 3: a solid. Pro and THEN i want to Throw Willie

469
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 3: lampkin out There, tony just because he's such a good.

470
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 3: Blocker HE'S i, know he's two hundred and eighty, pounds

471
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 3: but he's he's, short but it's got long. Arms AND

472
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 3: i just think he's a good football. Player AND i

473
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 3: hope a team gives him a shot at.

474
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: Center he's a tremendous football player and he moves very,

475
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 1: well AND i think he has all the ability to

476
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: be a backup in his own blocking. System and as

477
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 1: we saw in The Senior, BOWL i mean you Had

478
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: Walter nolan, there you Had Dion walking, there And lampton

479
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: was taken was handling these guys day after day after.

480
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: Day and it's kind of. Funny, he's what five ten

481
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: and change guy at The Senior, bowl two hundred and seventy,

482
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: pounds yet you know every snap he came out the.

483
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: Winner so he's don't know if he's gonna get. Drafted

484
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: if he gets, drafted gonna be very. LATE i think

485
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: he'll have every. Opportunity and remember he played center at

486
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: The Senior. Bowl but he was a guard At North,

487
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: carolina so that versatility is going to help him try

488
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: when he when he's fighting to make a roster.

489
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 3: Spot all, right, now let's go to the defensive line position, Here.

490
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 3: Tony you Have Warren, brinson who we saw at The shrine.

491
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 3: Game was a disruptive baffield. Guy bigger guy, too like

492
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 3: three Fifteen Vernon brown out Of, texas sees play next

493
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: To collins Inside jamaar And calbell out Of, oregon who

494
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 3: might not be body, beautiful but.

495
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 2: At three hundred and thirty three hundred and forty, pounds

496
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: that guy can.

497
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: Move Amed hassenin out Of Boise, state who he talked

498
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: a lot about as an edge, player and Then Tyler

499
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 3: batty out OF. BYU i believe it's still coming back

500
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 3: from an.

501
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,239
Speaker 1: Injury, YEAH i, Mean brinson is a guy that's been

502
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: on the. Upswing we saw he was terrific at The

503
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 1: shrine ball couldn't be. Stopped he had a good. Combine you,

504
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: know you come into the season The Zier stackhouses teammate

505
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: was the higher rated. Player yet it's been nothing But

506
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: Warren brinson on the. Inside he's an athletic. GUY i

507
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: think he can use them in a variety of, roles

508
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 1: could even use him in a three man line that

509
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: uses two gap. Techniques Vernon, broughton he's, big he's, explosive

510
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: he's got terrific, size he's got a. Motor he's a

511
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: guy that was on a very Talented Texas longhorned defensive.

512
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: Line so we didn't get the headlines or the notice

513
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: that he should. Have but all the guy did was

514
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: make play after, play down after, downs and he's got

515
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: a great amount of. Upside Jeremy, culwell he asked me

516
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: About harmon. BEFORE i think part of the reason THAT

517
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: i don't have a first Round Grand harmon is Because,

518
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: clwell WHEN i watched, him he was just incredibly.

519
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: EXPLOSIVE a guy that, size he can Move, tony it's,

520
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 3: crazy and he's got a great.

521
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: First, step and he's a. Penetrator you, said a guy that,

522
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: size he's got to play to that size because he

523
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: gets tied up in blocks or he gets knocked off the,

524
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: line where other by smaller. Lineman where you think the

525
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: guy who's three hundred and twenty three d and thirty

526
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: pounds should be more. Powerful so if he's able to

527
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: apply power to his. Game he's got the, quickness he's

528
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: got the. Explosion Ahmad hasanian just a great. STORY i

529
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: think a four to three defensive end who can rush the,

530
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: passer very, athletic needs to be. Protected doesn't have great growth,

531
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: potential but a guy who does a lot of things.

532
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: Right ditto For Tyler. Baddie not a great, edgresser but

533
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: a guy who can rush the. Passer he's a terrific run.

534
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: Defender he's very. Disruptive if you watch THE byu, film

535
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: he was the guy that they were constantly double teaming

536
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 1: outside on the, edge which allowed his teammates on the

537
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: inside to make a lot of. Plays late round, pick

538
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: BUT i think he'll do well as a rotational defensive

539
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: end in a fore man. Line late round pick in

540
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: the sense THAT i have a sixth round greade on

541
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: him right.

542
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 2: NOW i wanted to roll right into your edge defensive end, Group.

543
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: Tony, Yeah Tyler baron Of miami could go third. ROUND

544
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: i have a fourth round grade On georgia. Transfer when

545
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: he's on his, game you can't stop. HIM i, mean

546
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: he is, explosive he is. Athletic he is a guy who's,

547
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: fast had a great, combine, workout terrific, today, workout can

548
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: stand over, tackle come out of a three point, stance great.

549
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: Upside the motors got to keep running on. Him if

550
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: the motor is running on, him you're gonna hit a

551
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: home run With Tyler barron somewhere in the fourth. Round

552
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: Fadil diggs Of, syracuse another Guy texas a and m,

553
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: transfer very, athletic ran in the four sixes the pro.

554
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: Day when you watch The syracuse film last, Year digs

555
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: is all over the place when they're on, defense making

556
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: plays in the, backfield rushing the, passer getting out into.

557
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: SPACE i think he's more of a three to four

558
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: stand up outside, linebacker although he could put his hand

559
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: on the ground on. Occasion and Then Elijah ponder from

560
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: Cal poly here's the guy who got seventh round grades

561
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 1: coming into the. Season we saw him at The Shrine.

562
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: Bowl merrily came out of a three point stance to Cal,

563
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: poly can play standing over. Tackle he was a terrific

564
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: edge rusher on the small school, level and then during

565
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: his prote he ran four or five seven in pouring

566
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: rain because Cal poly does not have an indoor, facility

567
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: so in the, rain outside in inclement. Conditions he tore

568
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: up his pro day. Again when you get into those late,

569
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: rounds teams start to look at guys, size speed. Numbers

570
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: that's WHY i think they look Towards ponder and day,

571
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 1: three AND i think he's gonna be a real good

572
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: situational Pass rushauran On.

573
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: Sunday, yeah trade, trades, trades all.

574
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: Right two guys out there out, Here Tony David, walker

575
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 3: who was like the smallest of round the edge.

576
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: Rusher what was?

577
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: He?

578
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: East Not East? Carolina where's he?

579
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: From Tony, Arkansas, Arkansas Central. Arkansas he Started Southern arkansas

580
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: and then he went To Central, Arkansas.

581
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: Multiple, arkansas but he showed up at The Edior ball

582
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 3: and he was. Fantastic man Like nolga block. Him SO

583
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 3: i just think for a guy like, that the traits aren't.

584
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: There but you get him on day, THREE i think

585
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: you're getting a guy that can help. You and THEN

586
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: i Though Antoine Powell ryland in. There we saw him

587
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 3: at The Shrine. Bowl kind of a, smaller twitchier edge,

588
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: rusher BUT i think he has some pass rush.

589
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: Potential so those are two guys out through out.

590
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: There, yeah and the guy got both guys you can

591
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: stand them up over. Tackle you can also have him

592
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: come out of a three point.

593
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: Stance i'm with you all. Right off ball, linebackers who

594
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: do you?

595
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: Like Jamon Dumas johnson From kentucky by way Of georgia

596
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: gonna be a fourth fifth round. Pick more of a

597
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: two down run, defender although he did make some nice

598
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: plays against the ball The Shrine bowl when we saw him.

599
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: THERE i, mean he's just a, tough, nasty punch in

600
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: the mouth type of. Guy stacks well against the, run

601
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: shows good instincts in the in pass. Coverage just not

602
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: the greatest, tester not the, most not a flashy, guy

603
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: but is very. Solid Justin baron Of sarahcuse you want

604
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: to talk about Another combine. SNUB i, mean when we

605
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: were at The Senior, Browle justin barn was the best

606
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: coverage linebacker in those one on one drills where most

607
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: of those linebackers were getting turned and chasing players all

608
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: over the, Field Justin baron was actually covering them across the,

609
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: field down the. Field he's a little bit, smaller two

610
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five. Pounds some people think safety. Block

611
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: he's going to be a terrific one gap weak side

612
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: linebacker that on third and, five you can put him

613
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: over the tight, end you could have him cover the

614
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: running back out of the. Backfield Teddy buchannon of k

615
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: another sort Of justin barn type. Guy we saw him

616
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: again at The Shrine bowl and a three down. Player

617
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: he's probably better against the run Than Justin, baron but

618
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: he also shows terrific cover. Skills great. Story entered the

619
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: season basically greated as a street free agent by. Scouts

620
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: now he's going to be a middle Of day three.

621
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Selection and Then Tyrene powell Of. Rutgers i'm gonna go

622
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: back to WHAT i Saw Tyrene powell early in his.

623
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: Career it was a six to four and a half

624
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty five. Pounds we've talked about him

625
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: on the. Show they used him in space and they

626
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: really didn't ask him the blitz that. Much and even

627
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: at that, size he was able to stay with running

628
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: backs and tight ends and coverage and cover a lot of.

629
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: Area has had a lot of injuries the past couple of,

630
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: years including a as we talked about a torn achilles

631
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: a year ago Last, february yet he still played this. Season.

632
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Absolutely And i'll just Throw Jack kaiser out there

633
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: at A Notre.

634
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: DAME i just think he moves better than you. Think

635
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: he's a smart.

636
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: Player and THEN i Think Cody simon out Of Ohio

637
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: state as well as a guy THAT i think might

638
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: drop till later On day, three BUT i think he's

639
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: a very good player and a good middle.

640
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: Linebacker all, right defensive, Backs tony who do he?

641
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: Got Dot Day trader Of maryland in the, SAFETY i,

642
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: mean a guy who's been terrific the past couple of,

643
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: seasons does a great job covering center, field picks up

644
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: his coverage, assignments shows the ability to stay, receivers makes

645
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: a lot of plays on the. Ball he's a tremendous lacross,

646
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: player but he's not a great. Tester ran the four

647
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: sixes didn't have a great vertical, jump so you gotta,

648
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: wonder how is this guy who is a terrific football

649
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: player and a great lacrosse, Player he's just not a great,

650
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: tester which is what's going to push him Into day,

651
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: three AND i think he's going to be a steal

652
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: in the middle Of day. Three Justin wally Of, minnesota

653
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: a bigger corner that we saw in the. Postseason he's

654
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: got solid developing ball. SKILLS i think he's more of a.

655
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: Dimeback Marcus harris of cal WHO i don't think he

656
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: played as well in twenty twenty four AS i, expected

657
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: but he's got. Size he ran in the four to.

658
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: Three he's AT. Proda he's someone that's got a great

659
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: amount of. Upside you start them off as a nickel

660
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: back and you develop him from. There and Then Garnet

661
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: hollis Of West, virginia someone we saw at the shrineball

662
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: who just made play after play after. Play he's over

663
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: six foot, tall over two hundred. POUNDS i was shocked

664
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: to get an invite to The. Combine REMEMBER i mean

665
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: a year. AGO i think Was Beanie kok out Of

666
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: West virginia who didn't go to The, combine went in

667
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: the very late rounds and then did a great job

668
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: of The Pittsburgh. STEELERS i Think Garnet hollis come out

669
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: Of West virginia's.

670
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: Next i'll throw a couple of names out. There Kobe,

671
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: bryant WHO i thought did a great job at The shrine.

672
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: Game really, skinny not the heaviest, guy but, man he

673
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: knows how to get after the football and cover. Guys, impressman,

674
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: long lengthy guy. Too and Then Dan, jackson the safety

675
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: out Of. Georgia, tony you, know we saw a lot

676
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 3: of good stuff in him when he ended up. Testing,

677
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 3: finally he ended up testing pretty. Well so those are

678
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: two DB's THAT i think people should keep their eyes

679
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,239
Speaker 3: on on day.

680
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: Three And jackson is just a smart. Guy you're looking

681
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: at him as maybe a nickel, safety a third safety

682
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 1: who can also play on special.

683
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: Teams, okay we have many questions, Here. Tony you guys

684
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: did a great job getting a. MAN a lot of

685
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: them Are Giants, central which is. Fine that's. Great we'll

686
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: get to, those but before we, do just to remind

687
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: Their draft season is presented By, moody's a proud partner

688
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: of The New York, giants uniting the brightest minds to

689
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: turn today's risks into tomorrow's. Opportunity learn more at moodys dot.

690
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: Com all, Right, tony we did not talk a lot

691
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: about Shad Or sanders when we talked about our first round.

692
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: Grades that's BECAUSE i literally have five different questions on

693
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: him and our question section. Here so if you want

694
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: to hear About, Chador tony's about to give you the.

695
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: Lowdown And i'll give you some of my take as.

696
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: Well all, right this one first AT nyg tim are

697
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: there any concerns About Chador sander's leadership style the way

698
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 3: he's kind of talked about his offensive line after The

699
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: nebraska game and going after Some nebraska teammates on social?

700
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 3: Media what are you hearing on the grapevine about?

701
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: That you, Know i've heard a lot of things that

702
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: have not been verified that have raised some red flags

703
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: going back to his days At Jackson, state where it Was,

704
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: hey the offensive, line you got to do a better

705
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: jump blocking BECAUSE i want to be the first guy

706
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: FROM fcs to win A Heisman. Trophy granted that's all

707
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: second and third, hand but where there's, smoke there's, fire

708
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: AND i think there is a. Concern you, know you

709
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: want your quarterback to be a. Leader you don't want

710
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: your quarterback to be. Selfish, obviously the quarterbacks got to

711
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: be willing to call people out on, occasion but when

712
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback is, selfish that that's a. Concern and you,

713
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: know Again i've not seen this, myself and you have

714
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: to be careful with. That this is some sometimes, second

715
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: third hand, information but those concerns are out there and

716
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: the more you hear about, them the more they legitimate they.

717
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: Become, YEAH i have no idea if it's true about

718
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: your door or. Not And i've replied To tim On

719
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: twitter about. This this is why teams have scouting, stabs,

720
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: Right this is why they go to the. Schools they

721
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 3: talk to people and they meet with, them and they're

722
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 3: gonna have this. Information and by the, way some teams

723
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: might think differently about the. Player one team might think one,

724
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: thing one team might think. Another So i'm With, tony

725
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: take all this stuff with the grain of. Salt it's

726
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: all second and third hand stuff that we hear on the.

727
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: Outside and the teams are gonna have their scouts on,

728
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: campus both At Jackson state And, colorado do their homework

729
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: on these, guys and they're gonna have a better feel

730
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: for exactly what they.

731
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: Are but that's BUT i, mean the fact is This Shador,

732
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: sanders who back In december we thought was going to

733
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: be a top three, pick is in fact. FALLING i

734
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: run about this at the combine because there are teams

735
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: that don't have first round grades on. Him when you

736
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: look at him from a physical, standpoint you know he

737
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: doesn't have a great army doesn't have eight plus arm.

738
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: Strength he really didn't improve his game. Fundamentally there are

739
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: a lot of. Questions does it mean he's not gonna

740
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: be a good quarterback On? Sunday, No but what it

741
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: means is there aren't enough ingredients there for him to

742
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 1: be a very early draft, pick or you can argue

743
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: there aren't. Enough there isn't enough there for him to

744
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: be a very early draft.

745
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: Pick AND i think what he's, WELL i think What

746
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: i'll add to that is what he's really good at

747
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 3: is the stuff THAT i think it's hard to really

748
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: quantify on, Tape and when teams meet with, them if

749
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: they see that he's super, smart they see some of

750
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 3: these things working on the board of them and things like,

751
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: that that'll, translate, well that might allow some teams to

752
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 3: fall in love with. Him when we're just looking at. Tape,

753
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: obviously our evaluation there is somewhat. Incomplete All, right here we,

754
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: Go New, York ben nineteen sixty. Three if should Or

755
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: sanders is there at three and you pass on, him

756
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 3: who would The giants quarterback starting quarterback be in twenty twenty.

757
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 3: SIX i say this because that is the only quarterback

758
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 3: move you can.

759
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 2: Control.

760
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 3: Yourself to, me if you're in position to draft the

761
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 3: top quarterback on the current, draft you cannot pass that. Up,

762
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: well What i'll say to, That ben is it all

763
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 3: depends what's your evaluation of the player. Is AND i

764
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 3: don't know what The giants stink Of shud Or. Sanders

765
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: tony doesn't know what The giant stink of should Or.

766
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 3: Sanders if they believe he's gonna be a ten year

767
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 3: franchise starting quarterback and that's their, evaluation they should absolutely

768
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 3: pick the, player no doubt about. It but if they

769
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 3: do the evaluation and they don't feel that, way you

770
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 3: don't want to push a player too far up your, Board,

771
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: tony especially when you have a potential elite prospect In

772
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter Abdull carter with the potential to pick those.

773
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: Guys you also got to look at the, situation and

774
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: his situation is the same In, cleveland where you have

775
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: a general manager and a head coach who have to

776
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: get some immediate returns in twenty twenty. Five so if

777
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: you're selecting that early in the, draft you know what

778
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: he's With the questioner he said is. Right you know

779
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: that's why The Tennessee titans are gonna take Cam, ward

780
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: not because they think he's gonna get a lot of

781
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a winning team in twenty twenty, five

782
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: but twenty twenty, six twenty twenty, seven twenty twenty. Eight

783
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: you know you're looking at a coaching staff that needs to,

784
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: play if not winning, football incredibly productive football in twenty twenty.

785
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: Five and you're more likely to do that With Abdul

786
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: carter rushing the edge Or Travis hunter catching passes than

787
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: Shandor sanders either sitting on the bench or being behind

788
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: center making.

789
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 3: Mistakes, yeah it might be tough For hm the beat

790
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: out Of Russell wilson early in the, year to be

791
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: quite honest with, you So i'm, YEAH i totally get

792
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: where you're coming from, That. Tony All, Right so to

793
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: follow up on, that let's say he does not go

794
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 3: early in the. Draft this from at two d rad

795
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: realistic and non biased opinion on where should or might

796
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: go if both The browns and The giants do not draft,

797
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: Him and we should bring up the News tony that

798
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: came Out Derek carr is the shoulder. Injury there's a

799
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 3: chance he might not play this, year WHICH i think

800
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 3: makes A saints possibility of nine more in the.

801
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: Cards what do you think.

802
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: My prior to mock, DRAFTS i had him going to

803
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: The saints at. Nine the last mock, DRAFT i had

804
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: him going to The steelers at what twenty? ONE i.

805
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: Agree you know everyone's talking now about, well you, Know

806
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: Derek carr the shoulder might not play in twenty twenty.

807
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: Five are you gonna tell me that you're gonna Slot

808
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna Slip Shador sanders in there For

809
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: Derek carr and you're gonna get the same. RESULTS i,

810
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: mean the cults The saints should draft Door sanders because

811
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: they think he's the best player and that's their quarterback

812
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: of the. Future, yep not for twenty twenty. FIVE i

813
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: think you, know with The, Steelers Aaron rodgers is still

814
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: in the conversation. There they need the quarterback moving. Forward

815
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 1: that's WHY i had him going to The. Steelers, listen

816
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: there are some teams that don't have a first round

817
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: grand On Shador, sanders so he could drop a long.

818
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: Way all, right let's go At kevin nmc ford on. One,

819
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 3: Tony i'll take this. One if Ownership Joe Shane Brandon,

820
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: brown then McDonald DENNIS A, Key, dable Et cetera And

821
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: John maher are deliberating On shod or. Three who makes

822
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: the final. Decision it's gonna Be Joe. Shane that's the

823
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: general manager's. Job The giants ownership, Group John, Maraw Steve

824
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: tishan and the, families they empower the general manager to

825
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 3: make those.

826
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: Decisions Joe.

827
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 3: Shane, again you want to build a, consensus especially if

828
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 3: you're picking a franchise, quarterback to everyone be on the same.

829
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 3: Page you don't want to split room in that situation,

830
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 3: ideally but eventually it would Be Joe. Shane it makes

831
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: that tie breaking.

832
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: Vote all, Right.

833
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: Final question on The shador stuff at the, Top, tony

834
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 3: could you see The giants Wanting shador but instead of

835
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 3: passing On carter A hunter at, three they're.

836
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: Able to create a little bit of a bidding.

837
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 3: War trade down a couple of spots With jacksonville In New.

838
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 3: England drop down one or two. Spots you don't Get

839
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 3: hunter Or, carter but you get at least another day

840
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 3: two pick for your trouble BECAUSE i theoretically you would

841
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 3: think you can still Get shador at four or five

842
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: if you move down one or two, spots AND i

843
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: imagine Both hunter were Or carter would be in demand

844
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: for Both jacksonville And New.

845
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: England, well there's a lot of hypotheticals and scenarios. There

846
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: All i'll say, is if The giants are sold On,

847
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: SHADOR i think it makes more sense for them to

848
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: trade down and take him later on in the first

849
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: round than to take him at three fair.

850
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: Point, okay here we.

851
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 3: Go now let's move on to the Non shaudor portion

852
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 3: of our programming AT afc five two five. Three as

853
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: The giants general, Manager i'm putting you in that, Chair.

854
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: Tony given the choice Between Travis hunter And Abdul, carter

855
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 3: who would you?

856
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: Choose and Why i'm.

857
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: Taking out Dull caliter Because number one is he's the

858
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: top rated player on my, board so you get the

859
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: top rated player with the third pick of the. Draft

860
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: he's also a potential impact defensive, player and long before

861
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: it was a quarterback, league every team in the draft

862
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 1: wanted to come away with that impact defensive. Player giant,

863
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: fans Old giant, fans Remember Lawrence, taylor the impact defensive.

864
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: Player you, know where where are you Using? Hunter i've

865
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: always had him on my receiver. Board more and more

866
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: people are now starting to talk about him as a.

867
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: Receiver but, STILL i, MEAN i like him at. RECEIVER

868
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: i just love a Dull carter's ability to be a

869
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: three down defender as a pass, rusher playing space more

870
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: AND i think it brings more.

871
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: Impact, yeah, well to, me this is a close. One

872
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: both players are really.

873
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 3: Good that the top two players in my, opinion AND

874
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 3: i think a lot of people's opinion as. WELL i

875
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: would think either pick would be a slam. DUNK i

876
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 3: like the fact That hunter you get a bite of

877
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: the apple in two. Spots if he doesn't work in,

878
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 3: one you can use him at the. Other he's healthy

879
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: off the field personality. Wise everyone says he's just a fantastic,

880
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: kid BUT i think he has some things to work

881
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: on at both spots. Too Abdul, carter if he checks

882
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 3: out health, wise, look he plays a premium.

883
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: Position there's been Von miller comparisons with.

884
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 3: Him he's an excellent pass, rusher SO i think if

885
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 3: he checks out health, WISE i think you know what

886
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: you're getting a little bit more With. Carter BUT i

887
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: Think hunter gives you some interesting problems going both ways.

888
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 3: There SO i think a lot of that has to

889
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 3: do with The carter and kind of what the medical

890
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: show there. All, Right, Tony i'm gonna adjust this question

891
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 3: from at Big dash knows a little, bit BECAUSE i

892
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 3: think we know the answer to his. Questions i'll have

893
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 3: you rank. Instead let's say all four our hits in the,

894
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: league what position has the biggest impact for the team

895
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 3: that drafts. Him, edge, cornerback wide receiver or. Quarterback obviously

896
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 3: you know quarterback is number? One how would you rank

897
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: the next? Three edge corner and wide.

898
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: Receiver corner cornerback is always a priority position because you

899
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: need so many of. It BUT i think if you

900
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: have all, players if you have three players at the

901
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: position that are equally, graded you have the same grades on.

902
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: Them you're looking at edge, rusher, cornerback then, receiver although it's.

903
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: Interchangeable you, know some people would say some teams would, say,

904
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: no we want that, big dominant. Receiver but, still, AGAIN

905
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 1: i go back to WHAT i said before About Abdul.

906
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: Carter everybody in you, know twenty twenty five years ago

907
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: was looking for that impact defensive, player and that impact

908
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: defensive player comes from the edge, rusher comes from the

909
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: guy that can rush the. Passer some will, say you,

910
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: know Ah Al, davis if you get that big corner

911
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: that can cover a third of the, field, well then

912
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: you got two thirds of the field where you've got

913
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: a few other. Guys you know that is more. Important

914
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: it's only the eye of the. Beholder for, me it

915
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: would be edge, rusher it would be that impact defensive

916
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: player up.

917
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: Front i'm with, you AND i would put offensive tackle

918
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: in there right after those big people that can move

919
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 3: like they are the rarest people defined in these. Drafts

920
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 3: so it would be edge then offensive tackle for, me

921
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 3: and just with, You.

922
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: Just to go, back you, know before it came became quarterback,

923
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: crazy and quarterbacks were so, overdrafted offensive, tackle especially your

924
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: athletic pass blocking left, tackle was the priority position in

925
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: THE nfl, draft along with the impact defensive.

926
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 3: Player, YES i would go obviously, quarterback one, edge offensive.

927
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: Tackle THEN i would go wide receiver than, corner just

928
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i think corner is a very volatile position and

929
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: play can really shift from year to.

930
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 2: Year all, right here we. Go this is from At

931
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 2: doers do.

932
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: FOREVER i Prefer hunter at, three But carter seems more

933
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 3: likely given the rumors The browns are gonna Pay. Hunter

934
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: Assuming carter and no. Trades where is the best value

935
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 3: for offensive weapons in this? Draft tony wide, receiver running,

936
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 3: back tight, End while still address guard and, tackle The

937
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 3: giants need more offensive firepower and trench. Work who would

938
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 3: you target offensively and where would you go after those?

939
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: Guys you better have like forty five picks in the

940
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: draft to answer all those. NEEDS i, mean, obviously as

941
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: we've spoken, about running back is the strongest position in the,

942
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: Draft so you're gonna be able to get a good

943
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: running back in round, two in round, three in round,

944
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: four round. Five there's also a lot of good tight

945
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: ends in this, draft as you know if you watched

946
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: early in the. SHOW i think the tight ends that

947
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 1: go In day two could be the best tight ends

948
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: to come out of the. Draft we didn't even talk

949
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: About Mason. TAYLOR i think that when it comes to,

950
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: receivers there are good receivers in this, draft but you're

951
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: looking at more number threes and number, fours where In day,

952
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: two even the opening part Of day, three you could

953
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: potentially get a starting running back or starting tight. End

954
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: as far as the offensive guards to, CONCERN i like

955
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: the interior offensive line. POSITION a lot of college tackles

956
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: are gonna be offensive guards at the next, level and

957
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: it's also a good defensive tackle. Class but, again what

958
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: type of defensive tackle do you want do you? Want

959
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: do you want the, big wide bodied gap, occupier space

960
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: eater or do you want that, quick explosive one gap

961
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: three technique. Type you'll be able to get good players

962
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: day three in the, draft although they are more rotational.

963
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: Players remember we've talked about this couple times on the.

964
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: Show this is going to be a deep draft late

965
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: in the draft because this is the LAST covid. Year

966
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: so you've got a lot of, fifth, sixth seven year

967
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: guys who've played a lot of college football in this.

968
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: Draft and what that means is is you're going to

969
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: have fifth players with fifth round grades going the sixth,

970
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: round sixth round grades going the seventh, round seventh round

971
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: grades not even get drafted at.

972
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 2: All, WELL i think you'll get, Value. TONY i think

973
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: it's a good.

974
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: QUESTION i think running, back you can get a really

975
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: good player still at the top of round four and

976
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 3: feel good about. IT i think for tight, END i

977
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 3: think the really good guys will be gone by the

978
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: top of round, Three so that might be your goal

979
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: there for that.

980
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: Wide.

981
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: RECEIVER i like This day two, class SO i think

982
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 3: you could probably use a third round pick on a wide.

983
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: Receiver If giants have that early third round, pick you

984
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: and get a good player in that. Spot, GUARD i

985
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: would worry about waiting too, Long, tony to be honest with,

986
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 3: YOU i think you probably have to pick one at

987
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 3: either sixty four or ninety nine if you're a ninety,

988
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 3: five if you The, giants if you want to get you,

989
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 3: know a.

990
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: Guy you feel good about starting right.

991
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 3: Away if it's a developmental, guy, yeah you can wait

992
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: till till Till day, three and then defensive. TACKLE i

993
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 3: think top round three is an ideal spot for. That

994
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 3: you're gonna have good guys left on the. Board if

995
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 3: one of the top guys, drop you can get him

996
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 3: at the top round.

997
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: Two that's.

998
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 3: Great BUT i do think once you get out of

999
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 3: The Grant Derek, harmon that type Of Walter nolan, group

1000
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 3: you get a little bit of a drop, off AND

1001
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 3: i think you can wait till the top.

1002
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 2: Round three if you want to go attack that defensive tackle. Position.

1003
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: Again, well here are My day three. Guards Yali, Rodgers Texas,

1004
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: tech who played, tackle who was terrific in the in

1005
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: the in the in the senior, Ball Jalen, Rivers miami Of,

1006
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: Florida Jackson, Slater Sacramento, State Clay, Webb Jacksonville, State Miles,

1007
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 1: Frasier Joshua. Gray SO i think there'll be some decent

1008
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: players there in the interior offensive line, position and some

1009
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: of those, Guys Jackson slater as well As Joshua gray

1010
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: are projected to be centers On.

1011
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: Sunday all, right let's go to the next question.

1012
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 3: Here let's go to the fourth round one oh, five

1013
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: thinking offensive line for The. Giants what would be a

1014
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 3: good value and realistic option? HERE i think you already

1015
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 3: just touched on that day three, guards so we already

1016
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: answered that. Question what value players could there be in

1017
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 3: around four or five at the skill positions on?

1018
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: Offense running, back tight, end wide. Receiver who do you

1019
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: like in that range at those?

1020
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: Spots, well running? Back you, know what do you? Say round?

1021
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: Four i'm? Sorry four or? Five? Right? Okay where Is

1022
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: Jordan james Of oregon? GOE i Mean Jordan james could

1023
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: fall in the fourth. ROUND i think he'd be great value.

1024
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: There Ty, felton the receiver From, maryland third round type,

1025
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: player but eventually some of these guys you're gonna get

1026
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: pushed into the fourth. Round Key Andrey Lambert smith Of

1027
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: auburn By, Way Penn. State there's a guy that for

1028
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: whatever reason has basically fallen by the. Wayside tested incredibly

1029
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: well to, combine caught the ball very well At auburn last.

1030
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: Year you know where Does Jalen nowell Of Iowa state

1031
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: this heat fall into the fourth? Round Tess, johnson we

1032
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: mentioned La Quin. Allen you'll be able to get good

1033
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: players at either, position, fourth fifth round.

1034
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: Area how about tight ends date? Three who do you like?

1035
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 3: That?

1036
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: Oh, well you KNOW i Mentioned Aronde. YATSON i Mentioned

1037
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: Joshua simon Of South. Carolina If Joshua simon is there

1038
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: in day, three ALTHOUGH i have a what DO i

1039
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: have about? Him right? NOW i have a fourth? ROUND

1040
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: i have a fourth round great on. Him Harrold. Fannon

1041
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: is he going to Go day two or could he

1042
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: slide into the fourth? Round Thomas, FEDONI i mean a

1043
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: guy who needs some. Development he's not going to be

1044
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: A week one starter for, you but could be a

1045
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: real good player down the. ROAD i mentioned A Randy

1046
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: Aronde gatson who could be very likely gonna be a

1047
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: day three, player ALTHOUGH i have a third round pick on.

1048
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: Him later on Mentioned Carter runyon as far as my underrated,

1049
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: guys And benjamin you're a. Sec played incredibly, well played

1050
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: well At. Georgia didn't played incredibly well because they threw

1051
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: the ball down the field of. Receivers came From. Stanford

1052
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: was a past catching machine At. Stanford excellent. Size RAN

1053
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: i believe four to six' four at his pro da

1054
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: at two hundred and forty, two pounds six foot four

1055
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a late. Round guy seventh rounder could excellent.

1056
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: Value there, all right now we're.

1057
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 3: Getting answered some non giant questions here at wide. Nine

1058
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 3: giants how Much Of jalen milroe's deficiencies were from. The

1059
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 3: system if it, isn't broken don't. Fix it hate the too,

1060
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 3: commonly Comparison But josh allen had a lot of erradic throws.

1061
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 3: In college any parallels to draw, From, THERE.

1062
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: Well, i mean it's kind of funny because you're talking

1063
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: To A jylen milroe. GUY here i thought that the

1064
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: switchover Probably Hurt, jylen milroe the Switchover from saban's offensive

1065
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: savings staff to the. NEW staff i also think the

1066
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: fact that AND again. I apologize you should know the

1067
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: name by now the quarterback Coach, Of, washington michael Who

1068
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: Coached michael pennix Went to seattle for. A year now He's,

1069
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: at ALABAMA so i think He was alabama. Last year

1070
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: probably would Have Helped. JALN milroe i do think that

1071
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: there's some legitimate legitimacy to, that question to, that, concern well,

1072
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: you know it was a transfer from saban to a

1073
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: new coaching staff that Dad hurt jaylen MILROLL row i would,

1074
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: say Yes but I'm A jaylen. Milroe supporters i'm a

1075
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: little bit biased for.

1076
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: The guy, very Good any i'm NOT sure i think

1077
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 3: his issues are Separate. From Josh josh allen was, just

1078
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 3: accuracy straight up all over. The place miro's a little,

1079
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: bit different. All Right, bob ussulman some buzz about a

1080
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 3: few teams trading back into the. First round you can

1081
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 3: talk about them if, You want, Tony two but who

1082
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 3: do you feel might be candidates within the top ten

1083
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 3: you might want to trade back a.

1084
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 2: Few, slots.

1085
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: Wait we're trading back in a few slots for if

1086
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: he's in. Top, TEN okay i, UNDERSTAND now, i mean

1087
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: you know THE way i see it. RIGHT now i

1088
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: don't know that you're gonna be able to trade back

1089
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: for any guys except For maybe Shid. OR sanders, i

1090
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: mean how far back can you Trade For michel Williams Or?

1091
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: Jalb walker how far back can you Trade For? Mason

1092
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: graham so it seems pretty cemented. UP top i don't

1093
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: know that, you know you've got to be CAREFUL because

1094
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: i think if, you, say well we're gonna trade back

1095
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: And Get, mason grant he could. BE gone, i mean

1096
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: if he's not gone By The, Jack jaguars bik's gonna.

1097
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: Be Gone the raiders will probably scoop. Him up so,

1098
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: YOU know i think it's more of a maybe a

1099
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: team trading up because there they Think That tyler warren

1100
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: may not drop to. Their spot team trading up because

1101
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 1: they want to get one of those offensive linemen and

1102
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,479
Speaker 1: ensure Themselves With. Calvin BANKS but i don't think those

1103
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: either of those guys except For maybe warren or top.

1104
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 2: Ten picks, all right let's go To at andrew on.

1105
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 3: The score nevin's what do you think the range Ins

1106
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 3: For josh simmons or the good teams later in the

1107
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 3: first round better position to take him to give him

1108
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 3: some time to recover or are they into complete into

1109
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 3: compete now mode and when fewer guys with health and.

1110
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 2: Recovery, questions well we'll, find.

1111
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: OUT right, i mean if a team takes them in

1112
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: the middle of the, first round, you know they think

1113
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: that he's gonna come be on the Field. In september

1114
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 1: they expect them to be on the Field in september

1115
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: to compete for. A spot i Have The Kansas city chiefs.

1116
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: TAKING him i mean their offensive line is. A, DISASTER

1117
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: yeah i know They Signed, jalen MILROE but i think

1118
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: Even Signing, jalen milroe You Bring josh, simmons in you

1119
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: will give him. SOME time, i mean the answer to

1120
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: the question is we're gonna see on. DRAFT night, i

1121
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: mean one team TO watch i guess would Be The

1122
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: houston texans who need a. Left tackle do they Look At.

1123
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: Josh shimmons do They Take, josh connerly, you know to

1124
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: fill that left. Tackle spot that would be one area

1125
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: earlier on Maybe the rams Selected after, SO no i

1126
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: would be surprised if he goes earlier.

1127
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: Than that, all right let's go to AT book.

1128
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 3: D two with all the talk about defensive interior and

1129
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 3: defensive tackle depth in, this draft how do you distinguish

1130
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 3: these prospects in terms, of, height weight scheme and suitability

1131
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 3: for a team Like? The, GIANTS look i think it

1132
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: depends What the giants are looking forward that they don't

1133
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 3: want a bigger run stuff for Next With.

1134
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: Dexter lawrence they want.

1135
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 3: Upfield guy and that's how you separate, These, Right tony

1136
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 3: or do you want to, you know is it the

1137
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 3: one you know zero to one technique or is it

1138
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 3: the three to five? Technique guys is it the guys

1139
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,959
Speaker 3: that are three twenty to three thirty of the guys

1140
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: that are two ninety five to three.

1141
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: Ozho five that's how you separate.

1142
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 3: This group and the good thing about, This, class tony

1143
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 3: is you got plenty of guys in both.

1144
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: Those, camps yeah let's look.

1145
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: At two guys in the, Third Round Olmar norman Lot

1146
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 1: from tennessee six and a half and ninety One.

1147
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 2: Pounds Kelly real.

1148
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 3: Quick unlocked do you take a lot out of the

1149
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: fact that his listed weight was like twenty five pounds

1150
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 3: heavier than what he weighed at?

1151
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: The? Combine, no no because he played even if. It

1152
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: was he was INCREDIBLY explosive i mean, on film he's

1153
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: not a. HEAVY guy i mean he's an explosive first

1154
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: step guy that was able to penetrate, the gaps get

1155
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage and make plays and disrupt the,

1156
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: action route whether it was socking the quarterback or making

1157
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: a tackle. For loss and then on top, of him

1158
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: You Got jordan phillips six one and a half three

1159
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: hundred and twelve three hundred and fifteen pounds more of

1160
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: your zero technique nose tackle type who did exactly That.

1161
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 1: At maryland didn't have. Great production it gets be rated

1162
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,439
Speaker 1: because of the lack of, the production but if you watch,

1163
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: the film he was occupying two blockers at a time

1164
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,479
Speaker 1: to allow his teammates to make plays on. The ball

1165
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: although he did show some pass, rushing skills some. Athletic

1166
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: ability you try and both practices when we. Were there I'LL.

1167
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 3: Throw cj west into that the run stuffing defensive tackle

1168
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 3: group in round three, as well, all right and EVEN.

1169
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: Even, cj west what do? You run he ran like

1170
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: four nine five at. The, combine yeah he is athleticism.

1171
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 3: Short arms though Him and phillips are both shorter players six,

1172
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 3: to one both like thirty two. Inch Arms So norman

1173
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 3: lott has like almost thirty four. In charms just to

1174
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 3: give you, an example a guy that you mentioned a little.

1175
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: Bit earlier, All right lion cares zero.

1176
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 3: Twenty five Given the giants needs for offenses and added,

1177
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 3: secondary depth wouldn't make more sense For the giants to

1178
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 3: go off For a cleveland for a trade up to

1179
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 3: two To. Grab, HUNTER well i Don't think cleveland's gonna

1180
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 3: want to, Trade. DOWN tony i think they're gonna have

1181
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 3: their guy. They want they're gonna. Take Them so i'm

1182
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 3: not sure there's anything to give him to make.

1183
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: That, MOVE yeah I mean. I would I mean i

1184
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: have my Concerns about hunter in. The secondary guy never backpedaled.

1185
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: In college you know he's got a lot. Of upside,

1186
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: but again in, my opinion go back TO what i

1187
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: Said About abdul carter earlier in the question segment impact

1188
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: defensive player guy. Up front when you get Players Like

1189
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: ad calrter up front who can rush, the passer it

1190
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: makes life in your secondary a lot easier and it

1191
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: will mask errors in.

1192
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 3: Your secondary at seven underscore coops two More questions tony

1193
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 3: from a roster perspective and, starting defense wouldn't it make

1194
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 3: sense To the giants the draft And Start mason graham

1195
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 3: the line up next to decks rather Than Drafting. Abdul

1196
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 3: carter how far apart for you are the two prospects?

1197
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 2: Grade wise?

1198
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: They're significant and when you start drafting for need to

1199
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: start plugging holes and you buy pass you know. Terrific

1200
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: players what happens is two or three years down, the

1201
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: road there's hindsight and, you're, like well why didn't We Draft?

1202
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: Abdil carter why do We Take mason graham And Bypass.

1203
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: Abdull CARTER so I Think abdull carter is such a

1204
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: good prospect as, an airgdresher as a guy who can

1205
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: play off the line and playing space on third down of.

1206
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: Passing situations if you want him to just go back

1207
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: and look at the twenty twenty Three Film mason Graham's

1208
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: Good mason. GRAHAM'S intense i Think That mason graham is

1209
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: physically more tapped out or basically has reached closer to

1210
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: his limit, than Say Have, doul carter who's got great upside.

1211
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 3: With you, ON that i could not Agree more in the, Top,

1212
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 3: three tony you, pick players you do not. Pick positions

1213
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 3: you want to. Lead players don't worry about the fits. All,

1214
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 3: Right Finally big dogs, and you by, the way you

1215
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 3: can always find a way to get edge rushers on.

1216
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 3: The field you're not gonna have any problem doing That

1217
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 3: At big dogs. Thirteen eighteen, Final, question tony what would

1218
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 3: you like to See the jets.

1219
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 2: Do in rounds one?

1220
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 3: And two and what would be your ideal picks and

1221
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 3: if there is a surprise player that maybe they could

1222
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 3: trade back.

1223
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 2: And target.

1224
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: My ideal pick For the jets would Be armand membo

1225
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: right with that first pick to play. Right tackle they

1226
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: need a. RIGHT tackle, I mean membo is a guy

1227
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: who's got. Tremendous upside the last two year game the

1228
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: last two years is game Film at missouri was terrific

1229
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: and it got better tested off the charts At. The combine,

1230
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: AND yeah i know you can only put so much

1231
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: into guys running around on shorts AND a. T shirt

1232
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: but at three hundred and thirty, two pounds this CAT

1233
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: and i wrote, about this looked like a sprinter on the.

1234
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: Football FIELD so i think they fill a position with

1235
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: a guy who can start early in his career at.

1236
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: RIGHT tackle i think. SECOND round i like An wiser

1237
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: arroya a guy that can get down the field and

1238
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: make plays at the tight, end position which is an

1239
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: area of need For. The jets some people Have Said. Mason,

1240
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: TAYLOR okay i can't Understand because taylor brings more as,

1241
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: a blocker he just doesn't have the downfield Juices term

1242
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: john likes to use all the time Compared. To arroya,

1243
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: you know if they, trade down what are they trading.

1244
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: DOWN for I mean i think that. THEY would i

1245
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: think they could trade down if they get a large package.

1246
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: Of picks maybe you look at a tight end, Later

1247
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: on maybe you look at one of the offensive tackles.

1248
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: Later on maybe you look at a receiver, later On.

1249
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: And mecchabuka you pair them up with Another Former ohio state,

1250
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: the receiver but it's going to have to be a.

1251
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: Significant, package tony, good stuff.

1252
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 3: My friend uh we talked about what you're gonna have

1253
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 3: the sports key to. Coming up enjoy making a lot

1254
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 3: of phone calls and finding all the news and rumors

1255
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 3: over the, next week and will Reconvene.

1256
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 2: Next tuesday see, You. Then John That's tony.

1257
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,680
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1258
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,880
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1259
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,000
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1260
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,000
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1261
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 3: season Before the Draft. Next tuesday then We hope tony

1262
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 3: will be joining us on our wfan Shows on wednesday

1263
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,320
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1264
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,880
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1265
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,320
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1266
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,720
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1267
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:39,200
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