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Speaker 1: Even if he got you know, a ton of money,

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Speaker 1: his production would be terrible.

435
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Speaker 3: Everyone would talk shit. It would be a disaster.

436
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Speaker 1: I don't even judge him for that, right, Like part

437
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Speaker 1: of the reason that they weren't just randomly getting guys

438
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Speaker 1: to take discounts forever, it was because of Tom Brady

439
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Speaker 1: and winning Super Bowls. So when you suck, people are

440
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Speaker 1: less inclined.

441
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Speaker 3: To go there if they have options.

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Speaker 1: Now, technically you could argue brand you doesn't have that

443
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Speaker 1: many options because the forty nine ers only read to

444
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Speaker 1: trade him two places.

445
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Speaker 3: He said no to both.

446
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Speaker 1: But I'm not as critical of that. He's from Reno,

447
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: Sacramento play today issue. I wouldn't want to play in

448
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: New England either. Michael Pennix, I will I think we

449
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Speaker 1: can do two things. One go glass half full and

450
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Speaker 1: one go glass half empty on just the overall situation,

451
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Speaker 1: I will reiterate what I said. It doesn't make sense

452
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Speaker 1: to draft him if you plan on having Cousins be your.

453
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Speaker 3: Quarterback for the next two or three years.

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Speaker 1: He's a twenty four year old, ready made player. Doesn't

455
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Speaker 1: mean he's gonna be perfect, but he's ready to start

456
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Speaker 1: right now. He is not a guy that you know.

457
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Speaker 3: This isn't j J. McCarthy.

458
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Speaker 1: This isn't Drake May, who just is some project Mahomes

459
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Speaker 1: years ago, Like we Jordan Love. There are projects, dude,

460
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Speaker 1: Like if they had to start right away, you never

461
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Speaker 1: know what Mahomes.

462
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Speaker 3: I doubt he would have been that bad.

463
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Speaker 1: But Jordan Love clearly needed some time, needed some work.

464
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Speaker 1: Drake May everyone viewed like, ideally, just give the guy

465
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Speaker 1: a here. Pennix is ready to roll. I mean, he's

466
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Speaker 1: been in college for six years. His game immediately translates.

467
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Speaker 1: So it doesn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 3: The way it all played out.

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Speaker 1: I think if you could have a redo of everything,

470
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Speaker 1: the Raiders would have signed Kirk Cousins, the Falcons would

471
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Speaker 1: have signed Christian Wilkins, and the Raiders would now have

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. Michael Pennix would now be their starter with

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Speaker 1: an improved defensive line. But that's not the way it happened.

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Speaker 1: So if you wanted to go glass half full and

475
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Speaker 1: just live in the short term, you could argue they have,

476
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Speaker 1: if not the best backup quarterback, one of the best

477
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Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks in the NFL. There is probably not a

478
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Speaker 1: backup quarterback just I mean, I watched a lot of

479
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Speaker 1: preseason like who I would take over Michael Pennix, So

480
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Speaker 1: that's a good spot to be. And the problem is

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Speaker 1: not like Cousins under a one year contract, it could

482
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Speaker 1: get complicated, and it could get complic fast. If Pennix ends

483
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Speaker 1: up playing, that means Cousins either got injured or he's

484
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Speaker 1: not playing well, and then his contract is not.

485
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Speaker 3: Easy to trade.

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Speaker 1: You could argue it's always somewhat easy to trade because

487
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Speaker 1: teams need quarterbacks. But let's just live in the present

488
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Speaker 1: because he's not gonna be to start.

489
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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins is.

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Speaker 1: I watched Michael Penix, and to me, he looks exactly

491
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Speaker 1: like the guy he did at Washington, Unlike Jaden and Caleb,

492
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Speaker 1: who used their athleticism more, who kind of liked to scramble,

493
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Speaker 1: liked to move, Penix while his forty time at the

494
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Speaker 1: Combine was excellent. He's really more like plays like a

495
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Speaker 1: Jared Goff, you know, plays.

496
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Speaker 3: Like a true pocket quarterback.

497
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Speaker 1: And he wants to sit in there. He wants to

498
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Speaker 1: go one, two to three and just fucking get rid

499
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Speaker 1: of the ball. He missed a couple passes which I

500
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Speaker 1: was watching on mute, so I don't even know who

501
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Speaker 1: was in the game, how much timing and rhythm, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm not judging him on like overthrowing a sideline route,

503
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Speaker 1: which he has proven time and time again to be

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Speaker 1: accurate with. But to me, like, I think what he

505
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Speaker 1: does well, throw within the pocket, get rid of the

506
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Speaker 1: ball fast. He's got a good arm, He's accurate. He's

507
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Speaker 1: a very rhythm based guy. Like once he gets a

508
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Speaker 1: couple of completions, you just feel him rolling because he's

509
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Speaker 1: not looking to scramble around. He wants to sit there,

510
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: three four wide, let me pick you apart. And there

511
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Speaker 1: are some throws like this is what the kid look

512
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Speaker 1: like in Washington.

513
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Speaker 3: And I the thing that pisses me.

514
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Speaker 1: Off because I like him so much as a player,

515
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Speaker 1: I just wish he could start. I just wish he

516
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Speaker 1: could play, but he can't because kirk Cousins. They gave

517
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Speaker 1: him all that money, but yeah, man, he's just a

518
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: very comfortable guy sitting in the pocket and some of

519
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,959
Speaker 1: these scramblers just naturally if you're Jaden or Caleb, Like,

520
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: if something's not there right away, I'm kind of looking

521
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Speaker 1: to move because I'm so comfortable throwing on the move.

522
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Speaker 1: That's just not Pennis's deal. Like he wants to sit

523
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Speaker 1: there and he wants to find an open guy and

524
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Speaker 1: get rid of the ball within that little two three

525
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Speaker 1: yard radius of his tackles. That's the way he plays.

526
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Speaker 1: And he's really kind of old school, Like you don't

527
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Speaker 1: see that many quarterbacks. I mean, look at all these guys.

528
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: Caleb Mover, Jaden Mover, J J. McCarthy can move around

529
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: bo Nicks obviously an athletic move around guy.

530
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Speaker 3: That's just not Pennix's deal.

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Speaker 1: Despite the times, So like I don't nitpick guys in

532
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Speaker 1: the first preseason action for a misthrow an air mail,

533
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Speaker 1: It's like, is this what it's supposed to look like?

534
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Speaker 3: Are you calm?

535
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Speaker 1: You have a good pocket presence? Like, obviously if a

536
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Speaker 1: guy's wide open, can you hit him? Like the first

537
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: throw I think from Jaden was a screen pass and

538
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: he just airmailed them.

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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, this first ever time.

540
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Speaker 1: Playing an NFL game, he's amped up.

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Speaker 3: It's like a golfer.

542
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: You actually gotta be calm, but you got to balance

543
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Speaker 1: like being excited but being under control. So it's like, yeah,

544
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Speaker 1: it happens, Like what am I sposed to do? Negative

545
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Speaker 1: I'm not running the quarterback meeting.

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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I like what I see. It's on

547
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Speaker 3: the coaches to figure this thing out.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, I I think if you do,

549
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Speaker 1: if Cousins struggles gets injured, they will be able to

550
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Speaker 1: be like, see see what we did we had this

551
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Speaker 1: guy backing him up. I would say, yeah, see that

552
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Speaker 1: all that money you invested in the guy, you could

553
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Speaker 1: have just gone with this guy who no one was

554
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Speaker 1: gonna draft in the top eight beside you, which I'll

555
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Speaker 1: give you credit for, and utilize that money other spots.

556
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, on your defensive line.

557
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 3: Which doesn't scare a soul, So.

558
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Speaker 1: I'd be excited the guy can sling it. There's something

559
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: just puts you at ease watching the lefty who can

560
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 1: just throw darts. I just like Michael Pennix, I have

561
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: a lot of friends in the NFL. They have Super

562
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: Bowl rings that you know are on playoff level teams

563
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: that aren't that big of fans. Maybe I'm biased because

564
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Speaker 1: I've watched him play so much the last couple of years,

565
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Speaker 1: but I saw nothing in his preseason action that would

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Speaker 1: make me change my approach thinking. I don't know if

567
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Speaker 1: he's best case scenario, Like, I don't see him being

568
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Speaker 1: a top five quarterback, but I saw Kirk Cousins become

569
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Speaker 1: a guy who became really good in the NFL. So

570
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: Jared Goff become a guy became really good in the NFL.

571
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, all these guys games are a little different

572
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Speaker 1: than each other, but let's just use Cousins in Goff,

573
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: who are pocket quarterbacks. Well, this guy has more athleticism

574
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: than them, and it's just as comfortable throwing the football.

575
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: So if Jared Goff can be a high level player

576
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL, Michael Pennis canto, I mean, Jared Goff

577
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Speaker 1: is JJ McCarthy. I think the shitty thing about a

578
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Speaker 1: spot like this is you have this team that is

579
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: kind of going through a transition, right, but they're still

580
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: like the GM and the head coach expect to win.

581
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: So you signed Sam Darnold, who I didn't watch the game,

582
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: but it' saw on Twitter or whatever people say he

583
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: played well. Kevin O'Connell's already announced he's going to be

584
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Speaker 1: the starter. It's like JJ's this big project. Well, to me,

585
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: Drake may is a much bigger project than JJ McCarthy

586
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Speaker 1: because the knock on JJ's it didn't have to do much.

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00:28:58,720 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: Well.

588
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the running game work. I saw when he had

589
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: to make big throws against a team called Alabama down

590
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: late in the game. He came through and you watch

591
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: this game, he threw a terrible pick and like I said,

592
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Speaker 1: with a misthrow, like throw.

593
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: A pick in preseason, what do I just do? Fucking

594
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: cut the guy? It was awful. Can't do it.

595
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: But the only way to get better, and this is

596
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: what's hard once the regular season starts and you're not

597
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback is through playing and through reps. And

598
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: when you're the backup quarterback, you don't rep it out

599
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: in practice. You run the scout team. Typically the team

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Speaker 1: can I guess manipulate it a little bit with a

601
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: you know, if now they have the third string quarterback

602
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: who's eligible, he can be on a practice squad, but

603
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,239
Speaker 1: still your starting quarterback is getting the reps with the

604
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Speaker 1: ones during practice. You don't have enough reps to go round.

605
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: Michael Lombardi says this all the time.

606
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Speaker 3: It's a math equation.

607
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: You only have so much time to divvy up, and

608
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: your starter is gonna get it all and early on

609
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: in this season, let's face.

610
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Speaker 3: It, this team is going to try to be competitive now.

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Speaker 1: I think when you watch this guy play one a

612
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: lot is what you saw in Michigan athleticism, arm strength.

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00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: Honestly, he showed.

614
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: Some really good pocket presence, moving up in the pocket,

615
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: throwing accurately, Like clearly his first Reid wasn't open, getting

616
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Speaker 1: some heat on the corners, kind of steps up, made

617
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: a great throw through a touchdown pass. Guy was kind

618
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: of wide open, but still like he's got the arm.

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Speaker 1: There was a reason Harbaugh loved this guy three years

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Speaker 1: ago when he showed up to campus. There is a

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Speaker 1: lot to work with there, and I think if I

622
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Speaker 1: was a Vikings fan, I always kind of hate Like

623
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Speaker 1: at the time they drafted Mahomes and he was gonna

624
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: red shirt the year. Alex had been there a long time,

625
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: Like he was an entrench player, so even if he

626
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: thought he was flawed. At least if you're a Chiefs

627
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: fan like Listen, we've been winning double digit games. This

628
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: guy's been leading us to the playoffs. We were a

629
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,959
Speaker 1: joke before him and Andy showed up. I respect him.

630
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Speaker 1: I do understand if you're a Vikings fan like Sam Donald,

631
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: and listen, even if you are bullsh on Sam Donald's like,

632
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: I gotta watch a one year bridge quarterback. Can't we

633
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: just start this guy? It's never been easier in the

634
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: sense of your quarterback is more protected than ever, your

635
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: wide receivers are more protected than ever. So if he

636
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: doesn't know the playbook or something like that, I get it.

637
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: Not throwing him out to the wolves, But I've never

638
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: heard that football acumen and understanding, you know, in taking

639
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: in knowledge and taking it to the field, has ever

640
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: been an issue with this guy. So you see enough

641
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: his athleticism on full display a lot like the first

642
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: two guys. Throwing on the move something he's very comfortable doing.

643
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: Just running around and keeping plays alive is something that

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00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: he also is comfortable doing. I would imagine if you

645
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: started him, he would probably throw some picks, clearly, maybe

646
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: more than some of these other guys because he's not

647
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: used to just the offense, like Okay, we're gonna throw

648
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: it thirty three times.

649
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: This week for three straight weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's not something that just the way he's had to play,

651
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: but the strength of their team with you know, having

652
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: the best wide receiver in the league, Jordan Addison. I'm

653
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: sure gets suspended, but when he comes back, I mean,

654
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: that's pretty damn good one two combination. I don't know

655
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: why you can't just seize him in, but they're not

656
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: gonna do that.

657
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: And that's just I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just I'm never a believer, like I get the

659
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: Penix thing. The Penix thing is he's playing. He's simply

660
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: not playing because we gave another guy one hundred million dollars.

661
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: I have a harder time when it's like, well, we

662
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: gave this guy ten million dollars, And I'm bullish on

663
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: Sam Donald. I like Sam Donald on my team, probably

664
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Speaker 1: as a backup, but ten million dollars, like he can't

665
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: start over the first round quarterback and listen, he's gonna

666
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: need work.

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00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: You saw.

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Speaker 1: I would say he made the worst throw of all

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00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: these guys on the pick, I mean, hit the dude

670
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: on the raiders kind of in stride who undercut the route.

671
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: But man, there's a lot to like. This is how

672
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: calm he is.

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Speaker 3: That's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: Like you watch Penix, he's just very calm sitting there,

675
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: He's not. You can always tell a guy in the

676
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: NFL in preseason some of these younger.

677
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Speaker 3: Guys who just get really fidgety.

678
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Speaker 1: It definitely happens in the regular season when guys get

679
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: injured and you got to bring in backup quarterbacks, they

680
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: just freak out. And this is why we always say

681
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: it's the hardest position in the world to play, because

682
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: you got four dudes who now are all two hundred

683
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: and fifty to three hundred and fifty pounds. All of

684
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Speaker 1: them are athletes. They're all pretty good pass rushers, some

685
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: are elite pass rushers. Some of them are all time

686
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: pass rushers trying to fuck you up. And the moment

687
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: you start kind of as Sam Darnold wants say, seeing

688
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: ghosts or question your confidence or feeling overwhelmed, I can't

689
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: even imagine that feeling of looking.

690
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: These guys are huge, and you freak out.

691
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: And some guys just have the natural ability to not

692
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: freak out and are very calm in the pocket and

693
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Speaker 1: maybe it's obviously a different level from the preseason to

694
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Speaker 1: the regular season, but.

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Speaker 3: I'd say JJ McCarthy's.

696
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: Debut was was more than positive, even with an awful interception.

697
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: Another guy whose debut was really eye opening in a

698
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: good way was bo Nix, who I think we can

699
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: confidently say Caleb's the starter. Obviously, Jaden's the starter. Obviously

700
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: Drake may backup, Pennix backup because of cousins, JJ backup

701
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: because the organization wants to.

702
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 3: Take it slow.

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Speaker 1: Bow Knicks he refused to kind of like, I mean, honestly,

704
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: he had him like third on the depth chart. Some

705
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: of the stuff Sean Payton's doing little Parcelsian old school like,

706
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: which is where Sean Payton got a start. I think

707
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: that stuff's kind of stupid. Just named the starter, unless

708
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: where I can roll. I give eb Reflues a lot

709
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: of credit because the moment Ota starts like this.

710
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: Guy's a starter, what's the point.

711
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: Hit the ground, run and pedal to the metal. Let's go,

712
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: And that's the way it should be with bo Nicks,

713
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: and maybe it will be moving forward. Jared Sitdham seems

714
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: like a nice guy, have no problem if he's on

715
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Speaker 1: my roster.

716
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: But he can't be my starter. And to me, the

717
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 3: thing with bo.

718
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Speaker 1: Nicks, everyone questions like, oh, he he just throws quick screens.

719
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: He just throws quick streams. I think when you say

720
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Speaker 1: that sometimes, especially forever in like the Mike Leech offense

721
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: or whatever you do, or even Hawaii's offense, which were

722
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: all these hybrid you know, spread it out, a lot

723
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Speaker 1: of you know, stuff around the line of scrimmage, a

724
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: lot of quick stuff around the uh uh you know.

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00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: I would say within the ten yards of the line

726
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: of scrimmage.

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00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 3: It was easy.

728
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Speaker 1: It's why a lot of quarterbacks that had below average

729
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: arm strength and we're never gonna play in the NFL

730
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: could dominate in college football. And then he played I

731
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: don't know if you'd consider that the Mike Leech offense,

732
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Speaker 1: but in an offense that was very quarterback friendly, and

733
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Speaker 1: it kind of hurt him. A lot of people knocked

734
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Speaker 1: him on it. And then I'm watching him play going

735
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: he's got a really good arm like he has legitimate

736
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Speaker 1: arm strength. Like it's I'm not saying he's Josh Allen

737
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: or Brett Favre, but he's definitely not. I don't know

738
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott or an Alex Smith, like he has a

739
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: strong arm in all all, Sean Payton has reiterated over

740
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: and over and everyone that knows him or has followed

741
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: his career like he wants a quarterback to get rid

742
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: of the ball really quickly. And on the touchdown pass,

743
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: that ball hit bo Nicks's hands and was in the

744
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: wide receivers, you know, basically right in the corner of

745
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Speaker 1: the front of the end zone. Before you could even

746
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: snap a finger.

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00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: It was like whoa.

748
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Speaker 1: And it was the ball placement to get rid of

749
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: the ball. The arms strength, obviously, he made other throws

750
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Speaker 1: on the move. His athleticism like Jayden, like Caleb, like

751
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, enormous plus I mean they schemed just a

752
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 1: run play for him that picked up a first down.

753
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: They had another kind of busted pass that he scrambled around.

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Speaker 3: You just go, holy shit.

755
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: This guy has a lot of talent and there are

756
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: a lot of naysayers. It feels like a lot of

757
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: people want to hate this guy. I don't know why.

758
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm kind of indifferent. I wasn't pro the guy, wasn't

759
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: anti the guy I watched him at Oregon thought he

760
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: was a solid player. Watched him for the for the

761
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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. I thought his arm strength was even more

762
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: eye opening that I ever thought in college. And what

763
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: Sean Payton's gonna want them to do? They got all

764
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: these big body wide receivers. He can also run a

765
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: natural at it, like it's something that comes instinctive to him.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna play hero ball. I don't know how

767
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: it could have gone much better. I really don't. I mean,

768
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Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying this class. I think if

769
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: we look back on the class of twenty one, which

770
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: is another embarrassment, it really is also understandable. The vid

771
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: happened BYU schedule was a joke. Trey Lance didn't play

772
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. Turns out Alabama was like I'll tell the

773
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: story one day, but it wasn't a fair fight. And

774
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: justin fields and this, you know, the Big Ten wanted

775
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 1: to cancel football. Kevin Warren that loser. So I don't

776
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: know what to say. It's not comparable class. This one's

777
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: way better. But these guys resumes are a lot longer

778
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 1: in those guys, right, I mean, we got multiple HIGHS

779
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: Trophy winners. We got Michael Penicks who dominated college football

780
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: for two years. JJ mccarthury, two year starter on one

781
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: of the best teams in college football, National Championship, beats

782
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: Beats Bam at the Rose Bowl and an incredible come

783
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: from behind victory, and Bo Knicks resurrected his career these

784
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: last two years on Oregon, who was a top ten program.

785
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, these all these guys were playing

786
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: the best of the best and thriving. So you see

787
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: their skills, especially Nix McCarthy, Penix, Jaden and Caleb just

788
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: on full display like what they did in college. Their

789
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: strengths are going to translate. And the only way you

790
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: can get comfortable, and some of these guys are gonna

791
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: have the capability is to me by playing. The only

792
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: people ask me, I'm gonna start a podcast, what can

793
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: I do? Start podcasting, Start figuring it out, start doing it.

794
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna go into sales, start making sales calls, start

795
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: making some cold calls, start figuring out how to close

796
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: the deal.

797
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: Because you can.

798
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: You can watch as many Ted talks and YouTube videos,

799
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 1: and you can study in the quarterback room for our

800
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: upon hours watching film. But until you're out on the

801
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: field against other teams. There's no way to get better

802
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: consistently and make big improvements. You can tell me the

803
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: mental game, and coaches will push back on this. In

804
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: practice bullshit, these practices, no one gets fucking touched. They

805
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: know they cannot get touched. Even these uh, even these

806
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: joint practices. The defensive lineman is not tackling the quarterback.

807
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: There is nothing to replicate that. I saw Sean McVay,

808
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: who I gotta give the Rams a lot of credit.

809
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: These preseason games, depending on who's playing quarterback, can be

810
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: a really tough watch. You don't know half the players,

811
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: It's sloppy football penalties. It can be just like why.

812
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: Am I doing this?

813
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: And then you go, well, there's nothing really else on

814
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: watch and it's football, and I love it, And it's

815
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: like you end up watching most of the game. Sean

816
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: MCVAYH and I remember them doing this last year. They

817
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: might have been doing this for years. They mike him

818
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: up during the game, and they miked him up today

819
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: and he was awesome, and you go, yeah, I understand

820
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: why Amazon offered him fifteen sixteen million dollars a year,

821
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: because he would have been very, very entertaining. And the

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Speaker 1: one thing you have to do in these preseason games

823
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: is to try to entertain us through the broadcast. You

824
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: could argue it's less important in the regular season because

825
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: the game speaks for itself, but in these pre like

826
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: you want to keep me, it's easier to keep me,

827
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: but you want to keep the average consumer, you better

828
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: entertain them. And that was That's something every team in

829
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: the league should be doing. Should be micing up their

830
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: head coach. And if he's like Sean McVay, and if

831
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: he's the offensive play caller when they're on defense, have

832
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: him join the broadcast. Who are literally team employees. Who

833
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: are team employees, so there's nothing like nothing tough is

834
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: gonna be asked. It's going to be a very easy atmosphere.

835
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Speaker 1: Sean's cracking jokes, he's talking with that Andrew Whitworth, it

836
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: was fantastic. Cannot recommend. I would YouTube type in. Sean

837
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: McVay miked up.

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Speaker 3: It was awesome.

839
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 1: We make fun of Sirianni a lot. Simply what does

840
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: he do well on the forty nine ers broadcast with

841
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: Greg Papa, I guess he mentioned I didn't have access

842
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: to it. I watched the Titans broadcast, which was actually

843
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: pretty good, and Greg said, Kyle Shanahan's not calling place.

844
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: Clint.

845
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: I think Clint Kubiak's with the Saints. I don't know

846
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: what Kubiak. There's a bunch of Kubiaks, but one of

847
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: the Kubiaks that's still in the forty nine ers was

848
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: Klay Kubiak, I think was calling place. They asked Kyle

849
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: after the game, they said, what was it like not

850
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: calling plays? And he said He'd never been more bored

851
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: in his life. Didn't know what to do with his hands.

852
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: Through a challenge flag that he said was like kind

853
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: of kept him in the game. And I say it

854
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: all the time and listen. Obviously there are CEO head

855
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: coaches that thrive at it. John Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh, Dan

856
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 1: Campbell has been very successful. But I can't understand.

857
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: Young Cooch that don't do either.

858
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: Solid did this immediately when he got to the Jets.

859
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: Siriani's incapable. I guess of calling plays they are doing

860
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: beside a challenge play and a timeout. No different than

861
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: you or me, No different They're just sitting there watching

862
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: the game.

863
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 3: Now, you could.

864
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: Argue they have the juice to run the ball here,

865
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: or let's get Billy out of there. He can't cover

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Speaker 1: eighty six. Obviously they can do that. But other than that,

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Speaker 1: they're saying the same things we are.

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Speaker 3: What the hell's going on? How can we not make

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Speaker 3: a tackle? That's all they're doing. Those days are just done.

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Speaker 1: And football used to be a ton of CEO head coaches,

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Speaker 1: and obviously the sport the financial ramifications were different. If

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Speaker 1: I'm an owner, and the going rate for these coaches,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Andes, the Kyle's, the mcveigh's, you know,

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Speaker 1: Belichick and Pete forever, I mean, you're talking fifteen to

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Speaker 1: twenty million dollars. Unless you have a resume a mile long,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you dictating one of the sides of

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Speaker 1: the ball, Like Mike Vrabel's a good example. Mike, if

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna hire you, I would like you to call defense.

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Speaker 3: I want you to be my defensive coordinator as well

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Speaker 3: as the head coach.

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Speaker 1: And if we can graduate out of that eventually, okay,

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Speaker 1: once you prove.

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Speaker 3: But if I'm gonna pay you.

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Speaker 1: What the going rate and what you're gonna want twelve thirteen,

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Speaker 1: fourteen to fifteen million dollars, I don't want you just

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Speaker 1: doing the same thing literally.

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Speaker 3: As me up in the box on game day. I

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Speaker 3: don't think that's too much to ask. I really don't.

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Speaker 1: And I think Kyle tongue in cheek by saying he

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Speaker 1: was bored, he can kind of shed some light, like

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Speaker 1: at least you know what John Harbaugh does his leadership

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Speaker 1: and his works. Same with Jim Right and Bill for

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Speaker 1: a long period of time. It works most of these guys.

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Speaker 1: When it's not working, it's like.

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Speaker 3: What are you doing? Like, what are you doing? I

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Speaker 3: don't know, man, So fun times in the preseason