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Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, as I was enrolling, they were winning rison championship.

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Speaker 1: Sir, Tim Tebow is already there, you know, because Chris

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Speaker 3: They got packaged for him.

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Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be the start of the next year

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Speaker 3: You think I'm gonna beat I'm gonna go get this job.

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Speaker 2: But that's what That's not how I was recruited, though

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Speaker 2: I was recruited at the minimum.

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Speaker 3: With your skill set, you will have a pack. You

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Speaker 3: A lot of these guys coming back.

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Speaker 2: I could do that, you know what I'm saying, Like

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Speaker 3: I could do that. This is me at the to

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Speaker 2: Wet in the SEC as a freshman.

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Speaker 3: Folk plays a game just to run.

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Speaker 4: Then I could do that.

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Speaker 3: The fuck let's play linebacker.

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Speaker 2: Early on in my wreck ball, and then I transitioned

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Speaker 3: As a player.

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Speaker 1: So you get there and it's not shaping up kind

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Speaker 2: And so did you have a conversation with Urban Urban

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Speaker 2: you gotta think about it like this, do you even

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Speaker 2: Had a conversation with my father to say, like Pop,

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Speaker 1: I'm not that type of person, right right, You don't

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Speaker 2: I was I'm an ultimate pro, I'm an ultimate teammate.

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Speaker 2: Like I wanted people to succeed. You see what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: Like I didn't want Tbo.

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Speaker 2: He's the greatest college football player to some people. You

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Speaker 3: Because just like just the same way I gave you what.

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Speaker 2: Sparked my aggression or my competitive nature with Jimmy Causon,

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Speaker 2: Aaron Hernandez, the Pouncy Twins, Chris Rainey, Joe Hayden, Carlos

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Speaker 3: Right, So some things transpired.

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Speaker 3: That wasn't the reason why I left.

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Speaker 2: The reason why I left, Like, did I get in trouble, Yes,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't get kicked out of Florida. I left Florida.

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Speaker 2: Like, we build real relationships over that two year span

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Speaker 1: You could make the case given the talent that you

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Speaker 3: In the SEC channel. That's what you wanted. That what

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Speaker 2: No racial slur, but boy, they would have seen a

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Speaker 1: But by the time you came back, that was the

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Speaker 2: I needed to I needed alienation in juco. I was

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Speaker 2: two completely different people. I knew how to compartmentalize those

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Speaker 2: And when I look at my impact to football, I

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Speaker 1: Stay focused when you look at that roster you mentioned

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Speaker 3: Did you know? Did you know? Yo? Did you guys

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Speaker 2: go talk to Joe Hayden. See him, I'm saying, ask

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Speaker 3: Shit.

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Speaker 3: How did your parents come up with that name?

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Speaker 5: And I was an eight child, she said, eight is

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Speaker 5: And because all my sisters, my mom got ten kids,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my mama got ten kids.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, please tell me, like one of them

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Speaker 1: Well you you different, you special heart. So you're that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So what was it like growing up in a

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Speaker 6: We used to be jacking, yap, you know, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we used to be jacking.

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Speaker 4: That's what a lot of people in one hair is

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Speaker 5: So we used to get on each other, nerve right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ten brothers and sisters. So what was a typical

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So the sister is right on top of me.

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Speaker 5: She was like it was always a problem child, yeah,

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Speaker 4: And so yeah, we used to get whoopings, like like

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Speaker 5: So like they it was like she was forced because

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Speaker 4: And so yeah, by the time I got in school,

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Speaker 3: You was glad to go to school.

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Speaker 5: I was happy to go to school because we stayed

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Speaker 1: Like, so what was the relationship like your relationship like

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Speaker 3: You said ten kids, it's hard. It's hard to divvy

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Speaker 5: It's just like, so I'm the third youngest, so I'm

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Speaker 5: would treat it like I was a young child. Like

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Speaker 5: but never handicapped me like she never. I never was

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Speaker 5: always had me by her, so like I was always

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Speaker 1: Right, help me understand your mom was like pagan's pagan.

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Speaker 3: Like there's two forms.

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Speaker 1: There's one that doesn't believe in religions, like they don't

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Speaker 4: No, mom ain't one of them. My mom is just believe.

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Speaker 3: In God, and she believed in God, and she.

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Speaker 5: Don't believe in holidays, like she don't believe in Christmas.

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Speaker 5: She don't believe in Halloween, like we didn't celebrate a

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Speaker 3: Well, does she believe like nature? Like isn't what it's like?

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Speaker 1: Like polytheism which is many. So I'm trying to get

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Speaker 1: a sense of like your mom, if you didn't go

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Speaker 3: You went to church. Yeah, so you grew up in

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Speaker 4: I grew up in the church.

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Speaker 3: I'm confused what you.

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Speaker 6: Conferged to back?

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Speaker 3: Oh there's that, there's that?

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Speaker 1: Are you.

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Speaker 3: There? There's that? You Okay, so you grew up in

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Speaker 3: Y'all have a bus, but y'all have a little mini bus.

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Speaker 5: My daddy, Uh I remember this white man. My dad

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Speaker 3: That's still a lot of people. That's note, that's nine people.

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Speaker 5: Like we was also little like we all little like me. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: My mom was in the front seat and my dad

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Speaker 5: I was a Ford Mercury. I never it's a great

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Speaker 3: Grew up in the church, did you were you in

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Speaker 1: And I read that Kurt Franklin and Donnie McClerkin and

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Speaker 4: That's what I thought I was gonna be.

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Speaker 5: Well, my mama used to make me feel like I

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Speaker 5: then like My mama was a CNA, and so like

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Speaker 5: she was always working. She always worked in nursing homes

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Speaker 5: because I really could sing. And yeah, I used to

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Speaker 5: don't know. I think it was because I started smoking weed,

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Speaker 5: but I don't know. I probably just never could sing,

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Speaker 5: I just couldn't do it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, tell me this.

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Speaker 1: When the church three times a week and you're a

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Speaker 1: I understand, like a dance team or you know, So,

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Speaker 1: what's the worship team in church?

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Speaker 4: I said worship team?

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Speaker 2: Before?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so what was your what was your role other

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Speaker 3: What was what was your role.

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Speaker 4: In church?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Well you an usher?

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Speaker 5: Now, my mama was a usher. I ain't do nothing,

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Speaker 5: but I was on the dance team in church. You

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Speaker 5: got dance saturgical, it was called ofturgical. It's chinaturgical dancing

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Speaker 5: in church. You know when the girls had on the

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Speaker 4: I used to do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, before I had left. I was.

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Speaker 5: That's always been in church though, No, not like that,

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Speaker 5: not like that. But yeah, it's like gospel. It's like

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Speaker 5: it's called liturgical dancing.

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Speaker 3: So let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 1: You said your mom didn't believe it, like Christmas and

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Speaker 1: and and Thanksgiving and Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: We did Thanksgiving, you did this, Okay, So no Christmas.

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Speaker 5: No Christmas, no Easter, no no Valentine, no Valentine, Halloween,

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Speaker 4: I mean she never cared about the holiday, Like is

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Speaker 3: They'd be getting told.

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Speaker 4: Up because they be pinching you. We don't got on grade.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not that it's a big Irish holiday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like it's not. None of

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Speaker 5: you just celebrate, Like how Christmas and Thanksgiving is?

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Speaker 1: So how were you when you got your first gift

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Speaker 1: because if you didn't celebrate, what about birthdays?

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Speaker 4: Oh, your birthdays?

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Speaker 3: So you got gifts for birthdays.

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Speaker 5: It was really basically it was Christmas and Easter because

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Speaker 5: bott it's somewhere in there where. Christmas, like Jesus, I'm

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Speaker 5: the people just made up to talk about Jesus and

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Speaker 5: Resurrection Day, just not the day he got rolls on

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Speaker 5: in real life. But it's just some those holidays are

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're here to celebrate thing.

443
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 1: So help me understanding this. How did your mom dad

444
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 1: feed ten kids? They gotta have some good jobs because

445
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 1: you know kids eat a lot.

446
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 5: Well, we used to get food stamps. You know the

447
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 5: food Sam's good. You got ten kids?

448
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

449
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they didn't have did they have the car?

450
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 3: Did y'all have the books? Sixty five? Dollars books, you know,

451
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 3: they had books backing.

452
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 5: By the time I knew what food stamps was, we

453
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 5: was using the car. But before then, like it's something

454
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 5: called the Commodity that has That was in Memphis, I

455
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 5: don't know, I think it was in North Memphis something

456
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 5: like that. It was a commodity of the house though,

457
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 5: And they used to go there and get like these

458
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 5: blocks of cheese.

459
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you were they make the best saying.

460
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 5: What you do they make rice and cheese with the junts,

461
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 5: but you you had to get up.

462
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 3: On that failure, yeah, and it break up. It never

463
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 3: came off yead exactly.

464
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 4: So they used to get like that.

465
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 5: And I just remember always going to the Commodity has

466
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 5: like a similar right, stuff like that, like all the

467
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 5: broceers we got from there. And I really don't know

468
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 5: because I stayed in the same hassroom when I was

469
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 5: born until I was fifteen years old.

470
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 4: I stayed in the same house.

471
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 3: How many people slept in the bed? How many sisters

472
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 3: do how many people slept in the bed?

473
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 4: All four wards slept?

474
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 5: Okay, I never had a real bed in my whole

475
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 5: life until Okay, so from when I was born, I

476
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 5: was fifteen, I had never slept in a real bed

477
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 5: like we. I thought everybody slept on air missiges. I

478
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,360
Speaker 5: never knew people had real beds. So like when growing up,

479
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 5: it was a lot of us.

480
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 4: The girls had one room.

481
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 5: The boys had one room where my two oldest brothers

482
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 5: they used to sleep in like the attic upstairs. Damn,

483
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 5: so they had their own room. It want the attict.

484
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 5: It was like a room across from the attict. Yeah,

485
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 5: but and so the boys had one room and the

486
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 5: girls had one room, and we all slept on one

487
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 5: queen size air mattress, and y'all.

488
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 4: Was like that my whole life. And I never knew

489
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 4: Like I used to think.

490
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 5: My mama was being mean to us because she used

491
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 5: to let people come over our hats and stuff, because

492
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 5: you know, I grew up we.

493
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 4: Had reds and roasters, and and.

494
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 5: I'd used to be like when I used to go

495
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 5: to school and the kids be talking about, yeah, we're

496
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 5: gonna go for what's name house or its name house,

497
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 5: I used to be like, damgn, can't nobody to.

498
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 4: Come over my hasse? But I just thought my mom

499
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 4: was being mean whole time.

500
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 5: I would have been embarrassed because they would have been like,

501
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 5: you don't got no bad sleep on air mattress.

502
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 3: Your back should be messed up sleeping on the floor.

503
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, And we used to sleep on flothes too, like

504
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 5: because you know, one little thing can put a hole

505
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 5: in the airth mattress. And like my daddy used to

506
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 5: always go get the patches for the air mattress and

507
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 5: you glue it on her and patch the hold up

508
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 5: on the earth mattress. And until they got the money

509
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 5: to go get buy the passages, we'll sleep on the

510
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 5: floor until the air mattress got back patched up. And

511
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 5: when I turned fifteen, I moved to my daddy and

512
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 5: my dad was staying in the hotel and that was

513
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 5: the first bed I it was still be.

514
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 7: In my whole life.

515
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 3: So was your mom strict?

516
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 5: My mom, she was super strict. Like we used to

517
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 5: have to sneak out the halt because she ain't let us.

518
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 5: She my mama, she didn't want us exposed to the world, right,

519
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 5: But when we got into school, we was automatically exposed

520
00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 5: to the world.

521
00:23:59,000 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 4: Like we were around all these.

522
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 3: Other Yeah they're doing sneakish yeah.

523
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 5: And so as kids, you want to do what other

524
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 5: kids doing right, Yeah, we'd sneak out the past.

525
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: It's either sneak out cause you got ten it's hard

526
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: to keep out on all ten of them.

527
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 5: Well, by the time I saw a sneaking out the past,

528
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 5: the oldest street was gone.

529
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's still saying that's a lot to keep out.

530
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 5: And so yeah, we used to be like sneaking out

531
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 5: and my mom used to go to work overnight, like

532
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 5: living and seven.

533
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, so you went.

534
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: You grew up in the church, So when did you, like,

535
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: did you ever was there ever time that you.

536
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 3: Like, do you still go to church?

537
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 4: No?

538
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: I don't go to church now, So how were you

539
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: when you kind of like stopped going? I mean, because

540
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: I read that you went like three four times a

541
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: week and then probably went down to like one to

542
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: two times a week and then probably no times a week.

543
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 5: You'll probably like when I turned like thirteen, I had

544
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 5: we had stopped going to church.

545
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 3: It was a wee or you the whole If.

546
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 4: My mom went to church, I was going to church.

547
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 3: Okay. Why she stopped, I.

548
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 5: Don't know, I guess because we used to change church

549
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 5: churches a lot, and so I don't know. I guess

550
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 5: she wanted with the church. No more, right, but she

551
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 5: will still how Bapster it was us at home?

552
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 3: Right?

553
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, we had stopped. I stopped going to church

554
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 4: in like twelve or thirteen.

555
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 3: Michael's son, Marcus.

556
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: Was I don't know if he currently still is dating

557
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: Scotty's ex wife.

558
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

559
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: How would you feel if a teammate of yours dated

560
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: your daughter? Would you feel some type of way?

561
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, hell yeah. I that is a really I

562
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 3: feel bad for Michael. I feel bad for Scotty. Yes,

563
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: that is so messy. I don't like messy because when

564
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: it's messy, everybody has an opinion on it. Everybody has

565
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 3: an opinion. And you know, the internet is not a

566
00:25:54,480 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 3: place for messy. No, And you have to understand it's

567
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 3: a lot of kids involved, yes, and people are mean.

568
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: People are mean, and it's unfortunate. You know. I just

569
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 3: got onto social media because I didn't want to be

570
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 3: around the meanness. And I feel bad for everybody involved

571
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: because I see all the pictures. I don't do the

572
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: comment stuff, but I know they're gonna be mean, right,

573
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 3: But it's just I just hate messy, and it's just

574
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: really messy and they're no winners. There's only losers, because

575
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 3: obviously Michael and Scotti's relationship can't ever be the same.

576
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: Did you know was it the last dance when Michael

577
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 3: put that that because he wasn't there at the time

578
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 3: when Scotty refused to go in the game and he

579
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 3: inserted that until the last dance? Did you always know

580
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: that Scotty and Michael had.

581
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 1: This kind of contingious relationship because from the outside it

582
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: like it looked pretty good.

583
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was surprised it was so bad. I was surprised.

584
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 3: But in Farid, I don't spend a ton of time

585
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: with those guys together. I spent a lot more time

586
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 3: with Michael, a lot more time with Michael. Uh. You know,

587
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 3: it's just a sad situation because I think if you

588
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: not that I know, but you know, if you win

589
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 3: a championship with guys, y'all probably have a special bond

590
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: for yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think if you win six,

591
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 3: y'all might as well. Y'all should be brotherly like. So,

592
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 3: like I say, you know, if you win one championship,

593
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure every time y'all get together, because you

594
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 3: got that, you're gonna have the reunion. Yes, every every five,

595
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,479
Speaker 3: five year, ten year, fifteen, twenty three. Yeah, but if

596
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: you win six together, y'all should be damn near blood beasts.

597
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 3: So that's the thing I most feel bad. There's guys

598
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 3: I didn't win with. They some of my best friends.

599
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: Every time I see them, it's like, man, I got

600
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: another brother, and like we bumping each other at all

601
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 3: the Star Games, maybe the Hall of Fame ceremony, or

602
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 3: we just bumping each other. It's like a family reunion.

603
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 3: But if I had won six championship with somebody, I

604
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 3: would think, Man, we blood brothers for life.

605
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: When people that do what we do take shots at you,

606
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: I mean you had to look funny back and forth.

607
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: You and Shake had the funny back and forth. You

608
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: put Kendrick person Perkins's face on the punching back and

609
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: you you punch it and you get in this shape.

610
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you how do you handle that?

611
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: When when guys that do what we do take shots

612
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: at you. Yeah, it doesn't bother me because because I

613
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: guess technically we take shots at players.

614
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: Right. The only problem that I had what Kendrick says,

615
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 3: there's nobody in the world watch more basketball than me.

616
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: I tell you, like and I just come out of

617
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: Mark Magic was pissed me off even more because I

618
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: was watching two or three college basketball games a day.

619
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: March Maddison really sucks because I'm watching games all day long.

620
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: But to say another guys don't watch the games because

621
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: he has a different opinion than you. Yeah, yeah, And

622
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: so that's the only thing bothered me. I could say,

623
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: I say, there's nobody in the world watch more basketball

624
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: than me. So but I don't get mad. And the

625
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: thing is really funny about it. Shack is so sensitive

626
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 3: at times because I was gonna like let it go,

627
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: and he's like, no, no, no. My mama told me

628
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 3: growing up, we kill all roaches, and I said, like,

629
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: so that's how the whole roast thing came up, and

630
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: so any time anything happened right now, Shaq's like, we're

631
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: killing roaches. And Shack is so crazy. He made a

632
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: rap this song. Yeah, but I don't take it like

633
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 3: I really the only person I've taken shot. I said, honestly,

634
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 3: it's Skipp Bayless, because man, what we do is such

635
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 3: an honor. I don't think you can say stuff just

636
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: to say it, because my whole going back then, I says, hey, man,

637
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: there's somebody in Montana, Maine, South Dakota if I said

638
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: something bad about these guys, They're like, well, I saw

639
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: it on television. It's gotta be true, right. So I'm

640
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: be like, man, I'm not gonna say anything about a player,

641
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: especially if it's personal. There's somebody in Montana or South

642
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: Dakota gonna say, well, you know, Charles Barker said this

643
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: guy was blah blah blah. So I'm never gonna use

644
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: my platform for negativity. I'm gonna get you out on

645
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: him this one.

646
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: You once said that you've probably lost about twenty million

647
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: in gambling. Have you quenched that urge to gamble or

648
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: do you still like the gamble?

649
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: I love to life a gamble, you know. I got.

650
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 3: I got to the point so I would go to

651
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: Vegas and I'd win a million dollars. Damn me? Want

652
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: you playing ahead? I played twenty five thousand and a half. Okay, yeah,

653
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 3: A couple of quick double dollars you can get them,

654
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: and quick double doll you can get. Get it up

655
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 3: out of your pockets. I never know. I don't want

656
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: no check, I don't want you to wire. I want cash.

657
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 3: And there's probably been seven times I want a million dollars. Okay,

658
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: there's probably been twenty five times I've lost a million, right.

659
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 3: Uh So what happened was I quit gambling for two

660
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: years and I always take the same group of guys

661
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 3: from me, and I said, man, I miss gambling. Why

662
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: doon't you start gambling again? I said, well, man, I

663
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: was getting out of hand. They're like, yo, man, you're gambling.

664
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: Ain't getting out of hand. You're just an idiot. And

665
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: the one thing I pride myself on around my friends,

666
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: they can always be honest with me. I said, why

667
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 3: do you say I'm an idiot? They're like, yo, man,

668
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: we'll be sitting there, You'll be up three four hundred

669
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: thousand dollars. We're like, Chuck, let's go. You're good for tonight, right,

670
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: And in my head I'm saying, no, we're not leaving

671
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 3: this month. I wear a million dollars, right, And they said, dude,

672
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: there's times you've been up six seven hundred thousand dollars

673
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: and you won't quit because gamble's really just peaks in Vallas.

674
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 3: It is. It's just peaks in Vallas. It's a stock market. Yes,

675
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: that's all it is. And They're like, dude, why can't

676
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 3: you win three hundred thousand dollars and say, man, we

677
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: had a great weekend. Why you gotta win a million?

678
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: And I said what they says, why can't you lose

679
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: three hundred and say we still had a great weekend?

680
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: And I says, are you serious right now? He said, Man,

681
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 3: you know I ain't gonna lie to you. Let's win

682
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: a couple hundred thousand, have a great weekend, go home

683
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 3: or lose two or three hundred. You ain't got to

684
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: win a million, or you ain't got to chase it

685
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: and lose a million. And so the answer your question,

686
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: I said, Yo, man, we're going to Vegas for the weekend.

687
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: We're gonna lose a couple hundred thousand, or we're gonna

688
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: win a couple hundred thousand. You know what we're gonna do.

689
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: We're gonna play golf every day and get drunk every night.

690
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: And I had to change my mentality because you can

691
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: never break the casino. No, no, no, they can break here

692
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: with yes. And my friends just set me down and say, yo, man,

693
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: let's just go have fun for the weekend. Let's win

694
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: some money or lose a little lose a little bit.

695
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, but that's what really happened. Like I say,

696
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: I got such elation, but then when I would lose

697
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: a million, I was so depressed. Not that the money

698
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: just yeah that's bush. Yeah, because of the money, but

699
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 3: the losing.

700
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: But but the winning never feels as good as the

701
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: losing hurt.

702
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: Yes, you you were so excited when you got all

703
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: that money laying in front of you, but you're like

704
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: the pressed for a week. You're like, damn, I lost.

705
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 3: I lost a million dollars. And then you have to

706
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: send the bill till you financial people and they yell

707
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 3: at you, and you are yelling and yelling and yelling,

708
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 3: and then I says, hey, y'all better quit yell at me.

709
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 3: I'm a fire y'all. And then they're like, okay, we'll

710
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: pay it. But that's what really happened. I was getting

711
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: out of hand because, like you just had, your point

712
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: was so good. No matter how good it feels, winning,

713
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: when you lose, it just sucks.

714
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 7: I remember my really good friend, my really like my

715
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 7: age boncoon. She she used to hear me tell stories

716
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 7: and she would be like and she revealed this later,

717
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 7: she was like, you know, I would say to myself,

718
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 7: she must be leaving something out. There's no way this

719
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 7: could have happened this way, she must be leaving something out.

720
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 6: Until I got kicked out that Emmy's party?

721
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: What'd you do to get kick got the Hemmy's party? Damn,

722
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: we can't take you nowhere?

723
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 3: What do you do?

724
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 7: I go to a lot of places because I'm lovable

725
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 7: and people like me and I'm delightful.

726
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 6: I am delightful.

727
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: What did you do?

728
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 6: I arrived?

729
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: Okay, you arrived, Okay, you're inside.

730
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 6: No, So here's how it went.

731
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 7: So, because Hollywood is just so inundated with whiteness, there

732
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 7: was this conglomeration of folks that came together to say,

733
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 7: you know what, We're gonna have a black Amy's party.

734
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 6: Cause you know, have you been to the Amy's parties.

735
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: I've never been to Amies.

736
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 6: So like they're just you know, they're just very blah like.

737
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 6: It's just a bunch of people sitting around like, am

738
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 6: I right?

739
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 4: Am I? Right?

740
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 6: Oh my god, here's sin. You're sin? You're sin? Like

741
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 6: that's the vibe. Yeah, but you know when we party,

742
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 6: we want to have a little bit more onto it,

743
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 6: you know, called nice but up Derek.

744
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 7: So the in twenty eighteen was the first one where

745
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 7: they had a black and thesee party. So basically it's

746
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 7: like everybody, who'd i'e been to all the mother parties

747
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 7: in this one?

748
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 6: Yes, And I went to that party with Jill Scott.

749
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 7: And one of the people that planned that party was

750
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 7: Esa Ray's publicist, Vanessa Anderson, So she was one of

751
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 7: the planners of the party. But there's a bunch of

752
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 7: people involved in planning this party, correct. So I show

753
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 7: up with Jill and Jill's manager was like, hey, you know,

754
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 7: can we And I remember hearing Vanessa go like, oh, come.

755
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 6: On on, Amanda, mind you.

756
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 7: I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing wrong right here,

757
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 7: Like I'm just standing with Jill Scott. But nonetheless, we

758
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 7: came in the party, we had a great time. So

759
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 7: but and I said to Issa, like, I don't know

760
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 7: what's going on with your publicist, but like she she

761
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 7: got something wrong, she got a problem with me. And

762
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 7: she was like, that's between y'all, Okay. I said, well,

763
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 7: it's not really between y'all because I don't have a

764
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 7: problem with her, but she seems to have a problem

765
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 7: with me.

766
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 6: And she was like, that's none of my business.

767
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 7: Okay, Okay, So now next year is twenty nineteen, and

768
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 7: it was interesting because in twenty eighteen it was packed

769
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 7: like a dick in front of that place.

770
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 6: In twenty nineteen, there was like nobody there.

771
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 7: But I was at the HBO party, and every black

772
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 7: person I saw, I would tell them, make sure you

773
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 7: go to the Black and the party because I am

774
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 7: about creating community and I want us.

775
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 6: To be together, right.

776
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 7: So I pull up with my homegirl Kathia and Kendrick

777
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 7: Sampson who's on Insecure, you know the show where I

778
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 7: don't have any friends. So I pull up with Kendrick Sampson.

779
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 7: So we get to the door and I learned later

780
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 7: that she just is white passing. But this is a

781
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 7: Mexican girl, but like she looked like a white girl.

782
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 6: Okay. So she at the door for the for the amys.

783
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: What kind of party as the black party?

784
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 6: There you go.

785
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 7: So she tells us you can go in, you can

786
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 7: go and you can't go in. Now I think she's talking,

787
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 7: said my friend, because my friend is a realtor, right,

788
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 7: And she says, no, you can't go in, and so

789
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 7: why can't I go in? She says, you're just on

790
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 7: the list to not be able to go in. Now,

791
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 7: I had also been invited to this party directly by

792
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 7: Jesse Williams. Right, so, Jesse Williams said, texted me and said,

793
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 7: please come to the Black Emmy's party, right, Okay. So

794
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 7: I'm like, all right, I'm gonna come. I'm gonna come

795
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 7: to the Black Amy's party. Yeah, of course, like that's

796
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 7: what I am about. So I come to the party

797
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 7: and I'm like, okay, uh, why am I not being

798
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 7: let in?

799
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 6: Hm?

800
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 7: Kendrick says, I'm gonna go. Look, I'm gonna go look

801
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 7: around and see why you're not being let in. Well, baby,

802
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 7: I'm not standing outside no party, right, So I head out,

803
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 7: But then I'm stopped by just by this brother, Joey Harris,

804
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 7: who works with Janet Jackson.

805
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 6: Joey's like and Joey's like.

806
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 7: One of these people who's just always he's his disposition

807
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 7: is just always like glowing. It's kind of like Jordan.

808
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 7: So he's like, where are you going. I'm like, oh,

809
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 7: they said they won't let me in the party.

810
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 6: He's like, absolutely not. Come on, bat, We're gonna get

811
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 6: you in this party.

812
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 7: Loie so we come back and so this is an

813
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 7: example of someone trying to protect and look out right.

814
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 7: So he brings me back and he's like, why are

815
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 7: you not letting her in the party? By the way,

816
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 7: at this time, I'm hosting Bring the Funny on MBC.

817
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 6: There is a billboard the size of a hotel two.

818
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 7: Blocks away with me and my co stars on the show,

819
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 7: Chrissy Teagan, Jeff Foxworthy and Keenan Thompson and can I.

820
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 6: Just put it a pin in this really quick to

821
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 6: get them their props.

822
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 7: I had a real hard time on Insecure, and I'll

823
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 7: get to that, but being on this show was so

824
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 7: affirming because everyone there was so just happy to be happy,

825
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 7: and I hadn't experienced that on that set, like from

826
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 7: the showrunner to the writers, to my stage manager Roger,

827
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 7: to my co stars, Like I just got to be

828
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 7: myself and it really let me know it's not you,

829
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 7: it's the environment. And I don't get to talk enough

830
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 7: about like the positive shit because people are always so

831
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 7: attracted to the negative. But I remember day one, Christy Tigan,

832
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 7: we had to do rehearsals for the first day and

833
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 7: they had me in these stilettos shinning. Oh my God,

834
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 7: like I would have had to doing the work for Yes,

835
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 7: the feet were crying and it was I had an

836
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 7: injury from these fucking stilettos. And the next day Christy

837
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 7: Taguan brought a foot massage from sharper Image and left

838
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 7: it in my dressing room for the duration of the shoot.

839
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 7: Like that's the kind of people, you know, just generous

840
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 7: for no reasons, right, And we just had a blast.

841
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 6: We had such a good time.

842
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 7: And I remember Jeff Foxworthy one time they wanted us

843
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 7: to do this ad where we had to pass around

844
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 7: a drink and I don't drink, so it's like, I

845
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 7: don't mind drinks being around, but like me pretending like

846
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 7: I drink ate my jib. So I was like, I

847
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 7: just don't feel comfortable doing this. Now it becomes a thing.

848
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 7: This is how I get labeled difficult because I didn't

849
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 7: get we didn't get any prep for this.

850
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 6: But you need to go along with whatever they give you.

851
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 7: Didn't you know that whatever they give you you're supposed

852
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 7: to do well. When you're a woman, it's even more

853
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 7: sh quick stirring up trouble.

854
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 6: So Jeff Foxworthy saw shit going left.

855
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 7: And he stepped in and he said, yeah, I don't

856
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 7: feel comfortable with it either.

857
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 3: Wow.

858
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 7: He used his fame, his white manness, you know, he

859
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 7: used his disposition to just take the.

860
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 6: Heat off of me. He said, I got you.

861
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 4: To this day.

862
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 7: I really want to do a show with Jeff fox

863
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 7: Worth that we were just like fish and talk shit like.

864
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 6: That's a goal I want to do if you want

865
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 6: to produce.

866
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 7: I've been present while someone is fishing, but I have

867
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 7: not been given my rule.

868
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: So you hadn't had a rod or a pole in

869
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: your hand, but I have.

870
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 7: I have dated men from the South. I have been

871
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 7: present and Crappy cooked for me.

872
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so yes, So I think you'd be more

873
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: of a shore fisherman, you know, on.

874
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: The land, can't be in the boat. Yeah. Yeah, but

875
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying, we go, we go, Yeah, we go, baby step.

876
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

877
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 6: It's harder in the boat than on the land.

878
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Probably.

879
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 6: So really, Now, I thought there were more fish in

880
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 6: the center.

881
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: They're more fish, yeah, but when they go way out there,

882
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: they're they're normally fishing for a particular type of fish.

883
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: Like when you're on when you're on the shore, you

884
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: fish with anything to bite, catfish, crapy, you know, perch, bass,

885
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: but normally when you go out you fish for you know,

886
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: maybe you're trying to catch tuna, your branzino, something like that.

887
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 6: Snapper.

888
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, you know about fish, you just never actually

889
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 3: had a rod in your hand, like brought it off.

890
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 7: So I am I hyperfixate. So I know a lot

891
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 7: about a lot of things because I become immersed. Yes,

892
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 7: so like I'm a scuba diver, so I know a

893
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 7: lot about fish. And then at one point it was like,

894
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 7: I'm gonna learn everything I know about dogs, and now

895
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 7: I'm gonna learn everything I need to know about Game

896
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 7: of thronts.

897
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 6: I'm gonna learn everything I need to.

898
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 7: Know about you know, c doable football, Like I mean, like,

899
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 7: but I do know a lot about fish.

900
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you say no.

901
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 7: Because I'm I'm I'm in the middle of a story

902
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 7: and sometimes I beer off, but I always come back because.

903
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 3: I want to make sure we get to your absecure role.

904
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 7: So I just wanted to shout that out because I

905
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 7: bring the funny was a beautiful experience and it was

906
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 7: super super super duper super duper dope. So when we're

907
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 7: here and Joey Harris is trying to get me in

908
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 7: this party. The white girl says again, Well, the white

909
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 7: passing girl says again, yeah, no, she can't come to the party.

910
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 7: So Joey's like, think on one side and figure out

911
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 7: what's going on. Again, I'm not about to stand out here.

912
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 7: So I started to walk away again, and now Elijah

913
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 7: Kelly comes out.

914
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 6: He's like, hey, hey, Hey, where are you going. I said,

915
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 6: they're not trying to let me in this.

916
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 7: Party that I was invited to by Jesse Williams.

917
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: You attempt to call Jesse.

918
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 6: I attempt to call Jesse.

919
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 7: I texted him, but he's in a party, you know,

920
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 7: so I texted him.

921
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 6: So then Elijah is like, well, I'm one of.

922
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 7: The planners of the party, so they can't stop you.

923
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 7: They can't stop me from bringing you in. So he

924
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 7: starts to bring me.

925
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 6: In, and homegirl grabs my arm.

926
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 7: But I remember when I told you I've been in

927
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 7: New Yorker since I was twelve.

928
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 6: Shake that off, lose me. Yeah, crazy. So we go

929
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 6: in the party and I go and sit down. No sorry,

930
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 6: I go in the party. I go by the bar.

931
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 7: My homegirl goes to the bathroom. I'm standing by the

932
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 7: bar and a security guard approaches me. A security guard

933
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 7: your size approaches me and says, hey, I'm gonna have

934
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 7: to ask you to leave.

935
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 6: And I said, well, why do I need to leave?

936
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 7: And he said, because you're you're being asked to leave.

937
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 7: I said, well, who's asking me to leave? He said, well,

938
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 7: let me go find out.

939
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: Why.

940
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: He had, well, I mean, you came and say they're

941
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: asking you to leave, and you don't know who's asking

942
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: me to leave.

943
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 3: You got to go find out.

944
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 6: He was given an order.

945
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

946
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 7: So now he comes back and he says, Vanessa Anderson

947
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 7: is asking you to leave.

948
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 6: I said, well, you need to find Vanessa and have

949
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 6: her come tell me herself.

950
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 3: Is that he's raise puplis? Yes?

951
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 7: I said, well you need to have Vanessa come and

952
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 7: find me and tell me herself. So he then leaves

953
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 7: again and comes back with three other men, and one

954
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 7: of the men now is a brother, and he's walking

955
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 7: towards me cursing. So he's literally walking towards me, saying

956
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 7: you need to get the fuck out of here. You

957
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 7: need to leave, and I'm lying, mind you, I'm I'm

958
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 7: dressing down, honey, okay, And he's like, you need to

959
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 7: leave now, Cathia was in the bathroom. She's now just

960
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 7: come up and I'm looking around and I can see

961
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 7: people see.

962
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 6: Right, So I'm like, why do I have to leave?

963
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 7: Because we've said so so there's like violent energy and

964
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 7: language coming towards you. Right, I ain't no sucker, okay,

965
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 7: and but I'm also not stupid. I can't fight for men,

966
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 7: so like I mean, right, So I the first one

967
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 7: who was kind, he had come up right here, but

968
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 7: then the other three were right here. So I have

969
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 7: to realize I've lost this fight. So I pivot to leave,

970
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 7: but I pivot really fast because I'm gonna still say

971
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 7: my mother's piece.

972
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 6: So when I pivot and I.

973
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 7: Say, I pivot to go, you, I guess they thought

974
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 7: I was about to do something. So the white guy

975
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 7: steps in between me and the two the and the

976
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 7: brother and chest bumps me and throws me back.

977
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: Right.

978
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 7: So, now this is an assault because I hadn't raised

979
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 7: my hand to do anything to anybody.

980
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 6: So luckily I'm nimbleing a heel.

981
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 7: So I but now it's like, you know, now I've

982
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 7: been assaulted, so your natural response. So I'm about to

983
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 7: go super Saiyan on these mothers. Gokul over here. I'm

984
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 7: like ah, and I hear in one ear, I hear

985
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 7: the security guard saying, please, Amanda, don't do it, and

986
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 7: it feels like, plead, miss Cili, don't do it. Don't

987
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 7: be like me, miss Cili, don't be like Miss Sophia.

988
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 7: And then in the other ear, I have my homegirl

989
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 7: who's from.

990
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 6: The Bronx, like this is some bully and all I'm

991
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 6: hearing is.

992
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 7: But I look around and I see nobody come into

993
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 7: my aid. All these agents and people that I see

994
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 7: around now.

995
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 6: None of them are Insecure. None of them are the

996
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 6: actors from Insecure.

997
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 7: But there's people whose faces I still remember, and they

998
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 7: will not get a hug in a party either.

999
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 6: I just refuse somebody a hug the other day for this, and.

1000
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 7: I realized, like, you gotta go. So we walk outside

1001
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 7: and the security guard says to me and I'm so sorry,

1002
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 7: like I'm just doing my job, and I said, I

1003
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 7: feel you, But you have to ask yourself is it

1004
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 7: worth doing a job that makes you go against your

1005
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 7: moral compass? He was liked, so I hope he left

1006
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 7: that job because he could tell that he was He

1007
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 7: was mixed up in somebol So we're in a back

1008
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 7: alley like waiting for a car, and I'm crying because

1009
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 7: this feels like, you know, I've been humiliated and I

1010
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 7: didn't do nothing. And that was the night that me

1011
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 7: and my homegirl became super like that became my sister

1012
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 7: because she was like, when you would tell me that

1013
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 7: she would happen to you, I would think she must

1014
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 7: be keeping something out.

1015
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 6: But I literally just watched you do nothing.

1016
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 7: You literally just came somewhere, you were invited, and even

1017
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 7: though you tried to leave, multiple people said no, you

1018
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 7: belong here. Multiple people. Another person on this team said

1019
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 7: you belong here. So I'm bringing you in here. And

1020
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 7: then when I tell the story on my Instagram and

1021
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 7: on my podcast, it ends up getting turned into this

1022
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 7: whole other thing of you don't belong here, Amanda Seals

1023
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 7: doesn't belong here, And that's the thing that's a narrative

1024
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 7: that has come about, like I don't perpetuate yes, I

1025
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 7: don't belong in these places.

1026
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 6: And what ended up happening two days later is.

1027
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 7: That I got a call from Lisa and she called

1028
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 7: me and said, hey, I heard what happened this weekend.

1029
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 7: I just want you to know I have nothing to

1030
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 7: do with it. Would you be willing to talk to Vanessa?

1031
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: No?

1032
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: I try to talk Vanessa at the party.

1033
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 3: Shit two days too late.

1034
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 7: So I've never talked about this publicly because it has

1035
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 7: always been incredibly important to me to protect Lisa, because

1036
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 7: I know that Lisa is doing something within this business

1037
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 7: that so few people get to do, and it's not

1038
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 7: something I desire to do, Like I'm not interested in

1039
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 7: getting one hundred million dollar production deal, Like that's not

1040
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 7: a life that I want for myself. But I know

1041
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 7: that her role is very important, and so I've always

1042
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 7: protected Lisa. However, there's just been enough instances at this

1043
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 7: point where I should have been protected by Lisa and

1044
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 7: I wasn't. And one of my biggest problems that we

1045
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 7: have discussed several times in this interview is that I

1046
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 7: think people are going to show up for me the

1047
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 7: way I show up for them. And now it's at

1048
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 7: a point where my protecting of Lisa has become turned

1049
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 7: on to me and something that people are using against me.

1050
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 6: There's a whole narrative that is completely false that people

1051
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 6: keep spinning.

1052
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 7: They keep saying, you know that I'm this mean girl

1053
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 7: on this set that I harmed these people on this set.

1054
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 7: I just want to point out something very basic. How

1055
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 7: can I be a mean girl on a set that

1056
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 7: ain't my set? How it's your show, you are my boss.

1057
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 7: I don't even have the capacity to be the mean

1058
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 7: girl here because you can fire me. So there's no

1059
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 7: way for me to be a mean girl in this situation.

1060
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 7: And I know some people that may buck up against

1061
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 7: like the confirmation bias that they've created, but it simply

1062
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 7: is the truth.

1063
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 6: You know.

1064
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 7: When I got to that show, I had had a

1065
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 7: show on Lisa's website on YouTube. I had my show

1066
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 7: Get Your Life, and when it came out on her

1067
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 7: instant on her YouTube, unfortunately, the press picked it up

1068
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 7: as Lisa Ray's new show, right, But I'm but she hadn't.

1069
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 6: She didn't do anything except put.

1070
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 7: It on her site, Like I put all my money

1071
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 7: into it, I wrote it, I started it, et cetera.

1072
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 6: And so I said, hey, you know, would you mind

1073
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 6: you know, tweeting to correct this, and she just wouldn't.

1074
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 7: She wouldn't promote any of the shows, you know, And

1075
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 7: I just felt like that was unfortunate, But it didn't

1076
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 7: make me. It didn't change my view of her character,

1077
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 7: like it just let me know, like, okay, this how

1078
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 7: she do business. But in that time, her publicist was

1079
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 7: interacting with me and was from just day one just

1080
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 7: so acerbic, like just vitrol it for no reason, to

1081
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 7: the point where Lisa's business manager had to say to

1082
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 7: the public it's like, can you please try and be

1083
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 7: kinder to Amanda? She's like a talent on our channel?

1084
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: Do you and you have no reason why she would

1085
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: treat you behave.

1086
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 6: So Lisa says, would you talk to Vanessa?

1087
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 3: No?

1088
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 7: I said, sure, you know why? Why who's my boss?

1089
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 7: Who's my boss in this situation?

1090
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 3: Well? The boss?

1091
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 6: And where do I have to go back to work?

1092
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 6: So what's the game you talked about?

1093
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 3: You had to play the game.

1094
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: But hold on, But there was a situation earlier Amanda,

1095
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: Well you said that ain't my business.

1096
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 3: Y'all need to handle that. Now she wants you to

1097
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 3: talk to her.

1098
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 6: You're good at math? You good at math, Sharpton Shannon shopping.

1099
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 3: I'm I'm just saying because you like.

1100
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 6: You can't spell sharp and without shop.

1101
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 3: Now, so okay, you have so I take the call.

1102
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: You should have said, I want to be fased up

1103
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: face I want to look. I like the look a person.

1104
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 6: My feelings were hurt. My feelings were hurt.

1105
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 7: I just got assaulted in a party for black people

1106
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 7: in Hollywood, and I've been in Hollywood longer than majority

1107
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 7: of the people in this fucking party, right, my feelings

1108
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 7: are hurt.

1109
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 3: Okay, you take the call.

1110
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 7: Hello, Hi, Manda, this is Vanessa. I just want you

1111
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 7: to know that. So none of this has anything to

1112
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 7: do with Lisa. That's the first thing she says. None

1113
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 7: of this has anything to do with Lisa. So I

1114
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 7: just want you to know that. But I do want

1115
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 7: you to understand that it was me who kicked you

1116
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 7: out the party.

1117
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 6: Okay.

1118
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 7: So I just want you to know that the reason

1119
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 7: I kicked you out the parties because I don't like you. Okay, Well,

1120
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 7: that's all I need to know. There's nothing else for

1121
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 7: us to talk about, and I hang up. She calls

1122
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 7: me back immediately. Why did you hang up? I said,

1123
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 7: because there's nothing else for us to talk about it,

1124
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 7: she says, don't you want to know why I don't

1125
00:53:58,680 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 7: like you?

1126
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 3: And not? Actually, actually I don't.

1127
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 7: No, I don't because it's none of my business. I've

1128
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 7: never done anything to you, and for you to put

1129
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 7: me in harm's way off of literally nothing means that

1130
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 7: I don't need to talk to you about why you

1131
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 7: don't like me. You need to talk to your therapist

1132
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 7: about why you don't like me. And I hung up

1133
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 7: the phone. She called back, No, she called around. She

1134
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 7: starts a smear campaign.

1135
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 1: Oh, so this whole time your boss and I don't

1136
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: like I don't do the gossip thing. So have you

1137
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: ever had a conversation with ASA about this situation about

1138
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: her publicist?

1139
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 7: You're saying, since the situation at any point? Well, I

1140
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 7: mean I had that one time where I said to you, yeah.

1141
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 3: And she said, well that y'all need to work. That

1142
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 3: ain't got none to do with me.

1143
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 7: So now, after this conversation with the publicist and I

1144
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 7: get off the phone, I start getting word that she

1145
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 7: is going around to the different publications and different people

1146
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 7: because it starts coming back to me, and she's going

1147
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 7: around saying that I was is in danger of getting

1148
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 7: fired from Insecure, which I honestly I don't even know

1149
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 7: if that was true or not, but I had never

1150
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 7: that had never been brought to my attention. She starts

1151
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 7: going around saying that I got in a fight at

1152
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 7: the party. She starts going around saying that I peed

1153
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 7: on the floor at the party. I got to move

1154
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 7: it to the side. Like what are we talking about?

1155
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 7: So I feel like I'm gonna answer your question. So

1156
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 7: Easa then calls me again and says, Hey, I just

1157
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 7: want to know if this is going to be a

1158
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 7: problem on set, because now this is going on for

1159
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 7: two weeks and this.

1160
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 6: Going viral.

1161
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 7: In earlier in the conversation, you were like, why do

1162
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 7: you care if people don't who don't know you, like

1163
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 7: are saying mean things about you, And it's like I

1164
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 7: wish I had that, And I'm at a point in

1165
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 7: my life where.

1166
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 6: I'm there, but.

1167
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 7: It's really up when the pylon happens and it has

1168
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 7: nothing to do with reality, Like I don't even mind

1169
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 7: a pylon if it's something I really did. This situation,

1170
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 7: I'm like, how am I the villain in this situation? Well,

1171
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 7: you shouldn't have gone to her party because it was

1172
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 7: her party.

1173
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 6: Well it's not just her party.

1174
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 7: There's several people at the parties, not like I crashed

1175
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 7: her baby shower. But also I'm looking at Issa because

1176
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 7: it's like this is your responsibility. We are both your employees,

1177
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 7: and this is a part of leadership. This is the

1178
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 7: important part of leadership. And it's that's what makes leadership

1179
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 7: so annoying, is you're going to manage people. Yes, you do,

1180
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 7: and personalities and it's it's a very difficult task, but

1181
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 7: it is part for the course.

1182
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: Yes, but that's why you got the hundred million or

1183
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: whatever you got, is to manage your employees.

1184
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 7: So I said, you know, listen, I am not saying

1185
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 7: that it's going to be a problem on set, but

1186
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 7: I do think it is a problem that you don't

1187
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 7: feel that you need to step in. And she was like, well,

1188
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 7: then we have a difference in opinion, Like I just

1189
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 7: this is this is between y'all.

1190
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 6: This is between y'all.

1191
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: Well, if it was between us, why'd you intervene and

1192
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: say I need to connect that she wanted to call

1193
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: I needed to talk to her if you felt it

1194
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: was just between us, because you interjected yourself into that.

1195
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: If it's between two people, I shouldn't have interference for

1196
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: someone else to say we need to get together the

1197
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: two people either she reaches out to me or I

1198
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: reach out to her. I don't need you to intervene.

1199
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: But you felt the need to intervene in that. But

1200
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: now you don't feel an intervene to go any further,

1201
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: the intervention to go any further.

1202
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry.

1203
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 7: So I'm also promoting my book right, so this hits

1204
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 7: me because now the press is canceling.

1205
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 6: So this is now affecting me professionally. And I didn't

1206
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 6: do shit.

1207
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 7: Right, and I don't like you, in my opinion, is

1208
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 7: not a sufficient reason to sick for security guards on

1209
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 7: me and remove me from a black space, which also

1210
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 7: begs the question what the fuck is a black space?

1211
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 7: Because we like to claim that they're safe spaces, and

1212
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 7: you know that they're for us, but at this point

1213
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 7: black spaces are literally it's just black faces, and that

1214
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 7: even is you know, something to do with this pressure

1215
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 7: that I've been going through, but to stay on course.

1216
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 6: So now we have to go back to shooting.

1217
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Uncomfortable.

1218
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 7: I'm uncomfortable and I ain't any more sack, and nobody's

1219
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 7: saying nothing to me. Everybody knows because at this time

1220
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 7: it's just the women shooting. Everybody knows what's going on.

1221
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 7: They don't say nothing to me, and that's just sing mean,

1222
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 7: it's mean. They'll say nothing to me, and let me

1223
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 7: tell you from the beginning, I've been trying with these

1224
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 7: ladies because I want to make community everywhere I go.

1225
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 6: I didn't invited them to my house. They didn't come.

1226
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 7: I brought them gifts, they said thanks. I tried to

1227
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 7: plan a retreat. They said, we don't want to go.

1228
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 7: You know, I put I created our group chat for

1229
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 7: the show. I created game nights for the show.

1230
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 3: Nobody to participated.

1231
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 7: I mean, but like reluctantly. But I'm trying to do this,

1232
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 7: you know, because I think that this is It's like

1233
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 7: when I walked in and I was like, I feel

1234
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 7: like it's my role to make you feel comfortable. Like

1235
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 7: I feel like that's my way of getting around this thing,

1236
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 7: this stigma that people like to put on me, that

1237
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 7: they got shit to do with how I really exist.

1238
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 3: Okay, And.

1239
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 7: In this situation now I'm publicly now being like excoriated.

1240
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 7: You got this earthworm gym looking Nigga Serunus out here

1241
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 7: talking about, well, you don't. No one likes you, so

1242
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 7: that's why you weren't invited. What's hilarious about that is

1243
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 7: that we were only in two scenes together. So this

1244
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 7: is not somebody that really knows me. But you know

1245
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 7: what the other thing is, Shannon Sharpton. This is a

1246
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 7: brother who ended up having a child with someone on

1247
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 7: the show, and when he had the child, there was

1248
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 7: rumors that were going around that he was not claiming

1249
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 7: the child, and so these people had started talking about it.

1250
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 6: But the people that are talking.

1251
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 7: About ami people, I'm not involved in it, but I

1252
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 7: hear it because we do say and then he come

1253
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 7: around and is, hey, I don't like it like that.

1254
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 6: I don't like like that.

1255
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 7: It's not honest. So even though that's not my boy,

1256
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 7: I pull him to the side. I said, Pete, people

1257
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 7: I hear are talking about you behind your back about

1258
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 7: this situation, and I said, listen, this is a small business.

1259
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 7: So at the end of the day, if you are

1260
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 7: this child's father, I think you should explain it to

1261
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 7: the rooftops if you are not claimed. If you are

1262
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 7: and you don't want to claim this child, I would

1263
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 7: like for you to just consider rethinking that because as

1264
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 7: somebody with a father that did not show up for me,

1265
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 7: I really feel like she would really benefit from having

1266
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 7: a father in her life. And he was like, well,

1267
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 7: why ain't nobody coming to me? I said, I'm literally

1268
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 7: coming to you right now, and you ain't even my peoples.

1269
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 7: But I don't think it's fair that you're being talked

1270
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 7: about behind your back by people that you think are

1271
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 7: your peoples.

1272
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 6: He said, well, you know, thank you for that.

1273
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 7: That's the same nigga that fixed his mouth to jump

1274
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 7: on the bandwagon if we hate Amanda, because it was

1275
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,479
Speaker 7: a bandwagon and he want to be seen. He thought

1276
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 7: maybe he was going to He thought he was going

1277
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 7: to get an extra right, he thought he was going

1278
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 7: to get an extra scene or something.

1279
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 6: So now we're on set and I finally say that.

1280
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 7: He said, so, are you just not going to talk

1281
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 7: about this because it's now going on for three weeks

1282
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 7: and my mental health is suffering, okay, And.

1283
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 3: I just what.

1284
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 7: I just it was a tough time. And she's like, well,

1285
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 7: you know, like what do you want to talk about?

1286
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 7: And I said, listen, like this was a terrible experience.

1287
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 7: This was terrible, And I like literally cried, like face

1288
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 7: to face with her, like this is terrible, and she's like,

1289
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 7: this is the first time.

1290
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 6: She finally says like, well, I'm sorry that happened to you.

1291
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 7: It took three conversations and I said well, you know,

1292
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 7: I'd like to talk to you further because I need

1293
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 7: you to speak to Vanessa.

1294
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 6: She is trying to ruin my career.

1295
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 7: She's like, I don't think so like she's trying to

1296
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 7: ruin my like, so I bring her into the room.

1297
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 7: I bring her into my trailer, and I had to

1298
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 7: do another forty eight laws of power. I sat her

1299
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 7: on a higher plane than myself so that she can

1300
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 7: feel as the queen, and in this setting, she is

1301
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 7: the queen, right, And I say, you know, I don't

1302
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 7: need nothing from you, so I don't have a reason

1303
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 7: to lie to you. But the people that work for you,

1304
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 7: like in close quarters, whose names are really attached to you,

1305
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 7: they will lie to you. And I had to convince

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Speaker 7: her that, like this is really happening, like I'm not

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01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 7: making this up, and even if it's turns out to

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Speaker 7: me not happening, I still need you to speak to

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Speaker 7: her to deduce what it is, what is or isn't right.

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Speaker 7: So then she she finally went and spoke to her.

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Speaker 7: But the damage is done, right because now you see

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Speaker 7: how every few years this becomes a thing. And it

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Speaker 7: was started from a lie, right, It was started from

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Speaker 7: a lie, and you know it's not about convincing people,

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Speaker 7: because I don't need to convince nobody in nothing. But

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Speaker 7: I just don't ever feel comfortable with people forming opinions

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Speaker 7: not based on truth.

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Speaker 3: Want to join Club Shasha.

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Speaker 1: Become an official member by hitting that subscribe button where

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Speaker 1: you never know who's going to be joining us for

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Speaker 1: drinks and conversation. Don't be late to the party because

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Speaker 1: you know we'd like to do something before to something.