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Speaker 1: I Am all in again. Oh, I.

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Speaker 2: Am all in Town Meeting with Suzanne French and Tara

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Speaker 2: suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to another

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Speaker 2: episode of I'm All in Town Meeting, but this time

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Speaker 2: we're doing a book club.

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Speaker 1: It's myself, Tara and Susanne.

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 2: Today we are talking about Lauren Graham's book Someday Someday Maybe,

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Speaker 2: and we were talking about how we did Kelly Bishop's book,

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Speaker 2: and then we were like we should keep this book

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Speaker 2: club going, which you know, I don't know about you, Suzanne,

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Speaker 2: but like I love reading, but I sometimes need to

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Speaker 2: like force myself to sit and read. And this is

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Speaker 2: like a nice force myself to read a book. I like,

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Speaker 2: have you ever been on Goodreads once or twice? I've

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Speaker 2: been on Goodreads for like ten years, and I put

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Speaker 2: all the books in my like want to read list

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Speaker 2: and like have read list, and I like not review.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't like write reviews. I just like

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Speaker 2: to give myself like stars on like how I like

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Speaker 2: the book. And then I have a lot of friends

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Speaker 2: I follow and so and then you usually put like

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Speaker 2: a book challenge per year and I always put ten

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Speaker 2: books per year and I always end up at like

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Speaker 2: six or seven. I don't think I've ever actually hit

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Speaker 2: my goal.

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Speaker 3: I love to read, and I'm a physical book like

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Speaker 3: I physically bought the book. I just like reading a

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Speaker 3: book versus I feel like I spend too much time

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Speaker 3: on devices already. I don't want to look at a kindle,

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Speaker 3: so I love to like sit and read in a

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Speaker 3: nice environment, in a nice room. I just there's just

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Speaker 3: not time for that, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 3: this life that we all are eating is so hectic.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I never have time to just sit

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Speaker 3: down and disconnect with the book. So yeah, I don't

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Speaker 3: even I wish I could read six or seven books

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Speaker 3: a year. I can't even get that many.

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Speaker 2: I've had a Kindle for a long time, actually have

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Speaker 2: the I have the Kindle paperback, which does not look

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Speaker 2: like it actually looks like a physical book, so it

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Speaker 2: doesn't hurt your eyes. For me, I noticed that I

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Speaker 2: was reading a lot, and then I was just like

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Speaker 2: I didn't know what to do with the books. So

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Speaker 2: for me, it was like instead of just throwing it out,

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Speaker 2: like I mean, mind you, I have a bookshelf behind me,

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Speaker 2: so clearly I collect books like I have my whole

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Speaker 2: Harry Potter and Twilight, and like I have a bunch

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Speaker 2: of other books, but all those one off books, Like

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Speaker 2: I was just like I just want to like get

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Speaker 2: a kindle. But in recent years I got a Audible

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Speaker 2: membership because of someone who well, I work in podcasts,

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Speaker 2: but I also listen to podcasts. I found that I

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Speaker 2: really liked listening to books, and I feel like I

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Speaker 2: got more done. Like I was finishing Lauren's book this morning,

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Speaker 2: but I did it while I was like cleaning my

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Speaker 2: room and like like I started laundry. Like you know,

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Speaker 2: I kind of like it because it I can kind

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Speaker 2: of do more at once.

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Speaker 1: But I still like having my kindle.

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Speaker 2: And I always when I go on vacations, Uh, I

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Speaker 2: love taking my kindle because I feel like if I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely easier from the packing perspective to not

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Speaker 3: have it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, and you know, for me, I think another thing

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Speaker 2: is I hate creasing a book.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, this off topic, we'll get to the book.

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Speaker 2: I hate creasing a book, and so I always felt

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Speaker 2: like I was ruining like a paperback. Yeah, because I

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Speaker 3: No, I totally like the spine. This spine is not

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Speaker 3: broken at all, Like I don't. That drives me crazy too,

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Speaker 2: People yeah, so far, oh my god, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: Like I when I was organizing we did construction my

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Speaker 2: it's just the cover that's like torn, but like it's fine.

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Speaker 2: But speaking of the book, I I did the audiobook

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Speaker 3: Which is read by Lauren herself.

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Speaker 2: Right, yes, Lauren reads it, and I guess I'll just

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Speaker 2: straight up say it. I wasn't the biggest fan of

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Speaker 2: and it was really difficult but then I also was like,

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Speaker 2: the character of Franny.

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Speaker 1: Felt a lot like LAURAAI.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it if you thought of

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Speaker 3: So yeah, So I I actually have the audio book

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Speaker 3: I overall, I liked it. It's not my favorite book ever,

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Speaker 3: to Frannie being, you know, in her early twenties, starting

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Speaker 3: We did it back then, like we didn't have smartphones

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Speaker 1: Like it just felt like flat the whole way through. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Literally like the last line is literally like beep and

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