Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky
Speaker 1: and kooky.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, he.
Speaker 2: Said, Hi, Ross dressed.
Speaker 3: Friends, Hey boo, it's me Ross dressed for the lass.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: Still quarantining from home. But I got to do a
Speaker 3: wonderful episode today. I had a great conversation with someone
Speaker 3: that I just admire like crazy, and I think that
Speaker 3: she is just one of the funniest comedian comedic actresses
Speaker 3: out there and the coolest person. And I'm so lucky
Speaker 3: to get to know her, and I wanted her on
Speaker 3: the show for a while, but she's just she's real busy.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 3: We were able to work it out and we got her,
Speaker 3: and so I hope you enjoyed today's episode with Wendy
Speaker 3: McClendon Covey. We're going to be talking about, Well, she's
Speaker 3: actually she might be the only person in the world
Speaker 3: that has been on.
Speaker 2: She's been on the Hollywood Medium, the Long Island Medium, and.
Speaker 3: Celebrity ghost Stories. So we have a lot to talk about.
Speaker 3: Let's just get into it with the show.
Speaker 2: Wendy, how are you?
Speaker 1: I am living my best life?
Speaker 2: How's the quarantine been for you.
Speaker 1: I'm going bananas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you're like one of the busiest people in
Speaker 3: the world. I've been wanting to have you on here
Speaker 3: for forever and so thank you so much for being
Speaker 3: able to do this. But I know you've been so
Speaker 3: busy because you've got the Goldbergs and reno that one.
Speaker 2: One's coming back.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So no, it's weird to be housebound, and
Speaker 1: it's also weird that I am so unfocused that I
Speaker 1: can't finish a damn thing.
Speaker 2: But whatever, Well, what are you trying to do? I
Speaker 2: know you're a seamstress, right.
Speaker 1: Yes, so I'm trying to finish some projects that I've started,
Speaker 1: and then I've I've been trying to bake sour dough
Speaker 1: bread disaster. I've been trying to organize closets and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. And then I have to wonder about my
Speaker 1: mental state because like, why am I holding on to
Speaker 1: certain things? Why Why have I been hanging on to
Speaker 1: a pair of tights that I've I weren't in dance
Speaker 1: recital thirty five years ago.
Speaker 3: I know my parents are doing the same thing right now.
Speaker 3: They're like going through sending me pictures of like art
Speaker 3: projects from the fourth grade.
Speaker 2: I'm like, why do you have this still?
Speaker 1: But those are precious?
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Well, I want to get stuff for your memoirs.
Speaker 2: Exactly what you should write a book? Have you thought
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 1: Mm? Yeah, I've thought about it, and then I guess
Speaker 1: I started thinking about other things. I've been meeting with
Speaker 1: a publisher and all of that. But like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to just write some dumb thing about you know,
Speaker 1: reach for the stars and here's my makeup tips, like
Speaker 1: who cares?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: I mean I definitely talked to you before about some
Speaker 3: of your origin story, and I think it is so fascinating.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's so cool, and I mean
Speaker 3: people should go listen to interviews with you about about
Speaker 3: how you started and stuff because it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Thanks.
Speaker 3: But I want to talk about your ghost story because
Speaker 3: you were on Okay, you've been on You've been on
Speaker 3: two of my favorite TV shows of all time, the
Speaker 3: first one being Reno nine one one my second favorite
Speaker 3: TV show, Celebrity ghost Stories, and you told.
Speaker 2: A ghost story. It was actually I was looking.
Speaker 3: Up when this was and it was according to the Internet,
Speaker 3: you were on it in twenty eleven. Yeah, right, and
Speaker 3: it was this episode with Dylan Cannon, Quentin Aaron from
Speaker 3: the blind Side and another former podcast guest and friend
Speaker 3: of the show, Bridget Marquarth from Girls next Door. And
Speaker 3: then you told us a ghost story or you told
Speaker 3: the world a ghost story about when you were a child.
Speaker 2: Can you retell it?
Speaker 1: Yes? Happy to retell it now. One thing I have
Speaker 1: to say about celebrity ghost stories is for me just
Speaker 1: describing it, the reenactment they made was pretty damn good.
Speaker 2: Really, that's my favorite part.
Speaker 3: Like a couple of people from the show that have
Speaker 3: been on that show, on this show, and I'm always
Speaker 3: so curious of what your opinion is of the reenactment.
Speaker 2: That has to be wild to see that, Yeah, your
Speaker 2: life reenacted.
Speaker 1: I have to say I was. It actually freaked me out.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this. When I told that story,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how many people watched that show. And
Speaker 1: I started hearing from people all over the place. This
Speaker 1: is back when I was on Facebook and people were
Speaker 1: getting really aggressive about it, like, Ah, Redlands, I know
Speaker 1: of a cemetery in Redlands. I'm going to go walk
Speaker 1: around and look for it and tell me this and
Speaker 1: tell me that it was like, look, I didn't. I
Speaker 1: just told the story. I don't want to revisit this
Speaker 1: all the time time. You know, it's not like it
Speaker 1: was a fun thing. Yeah, you know, but people want
Speaker 1: to get in your business and whatever. So let me
Speaker 1: just tell the story.
Speaker 2: Okay, did anybody get to the bottom of it?
Speaker 1: I don't know. People might have gone on their little
Speaker 1: quest to find this grave side or whatever, but I
Speaker 1: don't want to know about that. And plus, they could
Speaker 1: look for something and they're not going to ever have
Speaker 1: the experience I had exactly, you know. But it also
Speaker 1: made me feel crazy, like this happened when I was
Speaker 1: in the first grade. Am I remembering this right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But again, kids don't. Kids are very open to their
Speaker 1: open channels, you know what I mean. I'm sure you've
Speaker 1: heard this before.
Speaker 2: Oh definitely.
Speaker 1: We don't really, you know, as we get older, we
Speaker 1: start asking ourselves weight did this really happen? But I'm
Speaker 1: just going to tell you from memory what happened.
Speaker 2: Okay, So my.
Speaker 1: Parents, I'm sorry, my grandparents moved to Redlands, which is
Speaker 1: you know, like on the way to Palm Springs.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like, isn't that Riverside County?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, so it's Inland.
Speaker 2: And you grew up like where again, Bellflower?
Speaker 1: Now I grew up in Long Beach Oka still live
Speaker 1: here and my parents, my grandparents moved to Redlands, but
Speaker 1: we spent a lot of time with them, and so
Speaker 1: we were carted back and forth to Redlands quite a bit.
Speaker 1: And they lived in this house that I mean it was.
Speaker 1: It was a beautiful cozy house, but it had a
Speaker 1: view of a cemetery on a hill and that always
Speaker 1: freaked me out. So right below it there were like
Speaker 1: horse pastures and then up on a hill there was
Speaker 1: this cemetery. On top of that, my my grandparents have
Speaker 1: always had a grandfather clock that makes noises on the hour,
Speaker 1: so at the stroke of midnight. That's really like a
Speaker 1: freaky haunted house thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm just setting the stage that that has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with anything. But my grandma would always take
Speaker 1: us on nature walks and we would walk through this
Speaker 1: cemetery sometimes because it was there and it was peaceful,
Speaker 1: as cemeteries always are, and she was restless and didn't
Speaker 1: want us watching TV all day, so we'd go through
Speaker 1: these walks and you know, look on the graves and
Speaker 1: read the dates and there were. You know, sometimes it
Speaker 1: was really freaky. You'd read these dates and it would
Speaker 1: you would see that you're looking at the grave of
Speaker 1: a child, you know, like eighteen ninety three to eighteen
Speaker 1: ninety six or whatever. You know, that's weird to look
Speaker 1: at people's gravestones.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the one thing that you said in the
Speaker 3: episode was that was the first time you realized that
Speaker 3: kids could die?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was like cold, hard proof.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know, at six years old, you just don't
Speaker 1: have that much or I didn't anyway have that much
Speaker 1: connection to death and dying, and you know, it was
Speaker 1: all just a weird concept. But this really, you know,
Speaker 1: brought it home. And I would say something to my
Speaker 1: grandma like, oh, wow, look at that. You know this
Speaker 1: this was a this was a child, or oh that
Speaker 1: was a baby. And my grandma I love her so much,
Speaker 1: but she's very stoic, and her answer would be like, yep, anyway,
Speaker 1: so let's explain. It was just like, yeah, things happen,
Speaker 1: and you know, we sold her on. Anyway. I had
Speaker 1: this episode where I was in my bed and I
Speaker 1: felt this pressure on my legs and I look up
Speaker 1: and there's this thing sitting on my legs. What do
Speaker 1: you mean this girl in the middle of My sister
Speaker 1: was in her other bed, you know, the other twin bed,
Speaker 1: and there was this and this thing little ghost girls
Speaker 1: sitting on my legs.
Speaker 3: Now, when you saw her, did you think it was
Speaker 3: a girl just like a human girl alive or did
Speaker 3: you think it was a ghost right away?
Speaker 1: Well, she didn't have a face, and she was dressed
Speaker 1: in like old tiny clothes, and you know, did she
Speaker 1: follow me home from the cemetery? Okay? Is this you know?
Speaker 1: Putting two and two together, that's what made sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like these are the dumb little games I would play
Speaker 1: with my sister, my little sister, Like I would sit
Speaker 1: on her legs and like wave my hair in her
Speaker 1: face to like tickle her and make her crazy. So
Speaker 1: it seemed like that's what she was kind of doing.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Wait, still a girl wants to play. But it scared
Speaker 1: the shit out of me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, so she was just sitting there
Speaker 3: or was she actually like crawling on you?
Speaker 1: She was just sitting there, but it was you know,
Speaker 1: what do you do? It was one of those things
Speaker 1: like when you're in a dream and you can't scream
Speaker 1: you want to can't, but like you doubt what you're
Speaker 1: seeing now?
Speaker 2: Do you think it was sleep paralysis? Maybe? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean I don't really ever hear about kids having that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure they do, but I mean I
Speaker 3: just don't talk to kids.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure it's possible too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I all I know is that I couldn't. I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I could tell anybody about this
Speaker 1: because I didn't have the language skills to say this,
Speaker 1: and we lived in a very religious family and like,
Speaker 1: you don't talk about that stuff. No one's gonna believe this,
Speaker 1: mm hmm. So but first my family had heard about
Speaker 1: it was when this episode.
Speaker 2: Came out, Really why ghost?
Speaker 1: So I had nightmares all the time as a kid,
Speaker 1: So I started doubting, like was this a nightmare? Did
Speaker 1: this really happen? Because it's sure as how I felt
Speaker 1: like it happened. And I know what I I know
Speaker 1: what I saw.
Speaker 3: Is this something that had been like like for where
Speaker 3: you was this always on your mind that you had
Speaker 3: seen a ghost as a kid?
Speaker 1: Yeah, But then I started pushing it down yeah, and
Speaker 1: and being like no, no, no, it couldn't have happened.
Speaker 1: It just couldn't have happened that it did happen.
Speaker 2: In the episode two, you said that she had a doll.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, she did have a weird doll with no face.
Speaker 1: It was like a really primitive thing, like a pioneer
Speaker 1: girl would have, like very homemade with.
Speaker 2: A us I wonder why she didn't have a face.
Speaker 2: That's so scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why the little girl or the doll or both both?
Speaker 2: I guess they were matching.
Speaker 1: Listen, I don't know, but you know, who knows? What
Speaker 1: was this house built on something weird on some kind
Speaker 1: of land or something happened? Did something happen in the neighborhood?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I've talked to a lot of people about cemeteries being haunted,
Speaker 3: and a lot of people think that cemeteries aren't often
Speaker 3: haunted because got why would a ghost want to just
Speaker 3: like hang out where they're with a bunch of like
Speaker 3: dead bodies. They usually tend to go places that they're
Speaker 3: more connected to. But also, like a child might not
Speaker 3: even know the difference. Like I could see a child
Speaker 3: possibly haunting a cemetery or yeah, maybe that house, maybe that.
Speaker 2: Child lived in that house or that property.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the thing I've always had, that feeling like,
Speaker 1: don't don't ghosts haunt where they died?
Speaker 2: Well, see, this is something that people.
Speaker 1: Don't die in the cemetery. They die and then they
Speaker 1: get taken to the cemetery.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: But one thing that since I've done this show that
Speaker 3: keeps me up at night is and I was actually
Speaker 3: thinking about this last night. I'm right now staying in
Speaker 3: San Diego at my boyfriend's place, and his apartment is
Speaker 3: definitely not haunted. But as I was like reading ghost
Speaker 3: stories at nighttime, and I was thinking about the fact
Speaker 3: that I hear so many stories on this show that
Speaker 3: kind of prove that ghosts are not necessarily just people
Speaker 3: that died in a certain location. Like I keep hearing
Speaker 3: stories about ghosts like following people home or finding their
Speaker 3: like ghosts can just find their way into wherever you are.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that's true. That's true. So I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: did this kid die in the neighborhood maybe and she
Speaker 1: doesn't know how to get home and or she saw
Speaker 1: kids playing And it was like, oh, that seems like
Speaker 1: what I ought to be doing. I don't know, all
Speaker 1: I know is that happened. I did not have a
Speaker 1: way to tell anybody that it happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And when my sister saw my Celebrity ghost Stories episode,
Speaker 1: she said what And I was in the next bed.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, Shelly, I what was I going to do?
Speaker 1: You know, something? Too scared to make a move?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, you know?
Speaker 1: And I was six.
Speaker 2: God, that is so scary.
Speaker 3: Well, to be clear, people listening to this, don't go
Speaker 3: looking for the tombstone and redlands.
Speaker 1: Well, do what you're gonna do, but don't tell me
Speaker 1: about it exactly now if you want to go looking
Speaker 1: for trouble and look, I'm sure this little girl was
Speaker 1: not going to like murder me. No, it was just
Speaker 1: a weird thing to happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 3: But since then, you did not have any other experiences, right,
Speaker 3: I mean I you worked at you started the Groundlings, right, yes? Yes,
Speaker 3: And I've heard that the Groundings is possibly a little haunted.
Speaker 3: Have you ever heard that?
Speaker 1: I have heard that. I have not experienced that. I
Speaker 1: I am fascinated with uh with tales of normal And
Speaker 1: you know I've gone to the Hotel Coronado.
Speaker 2: Yes have you been there? Oh? I love it. I
Speaker 2: think it's so beautiful.
Speaker 1: And it's you know, haunted, like very haunted, very haunted.
Speaker 3: I called the Hotel Coronado a couple months back and
Speaker 3: I was like, what's the haunted hotel room?
Speaker 2: I want to stay in it?
Speaker 3: And the lady at the desk was like, what now,
Speaker 3: it's not haunted, and I was like, Okay. I read
Speaker 3: online and I've heard stories and there's like books about it,
Speaker 3: Like now now, now what room do you want to
Speaker 3: stay in?
Speaker 2: We'll get to another room. I'm like, okay.
Speaker 3: So some places like really don't like talking about it,
Speaker 3: but yeah, like the Queen Mary, they're real into talking
Speaker 3: about it being haunted.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because it's happened. There have been so many sightings.
Speaker 1: It's like you can't deny it. You just can't deny it.
Speaker 1: And it's been investigated so many times.
Speaker 2: Have you ever stayed there?
Speaker 1: I've never stayed there, but now I feel like I
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 2: You should and report that to us.
Speaker 1: I mean, but I've been all over that ship because
Speaker 1: you know, I've lived in its neighborhood for decades, and
Speaker 1: they used to have like a Jacques Cousteau exhibit on
Speaker 1: there where you could go, and there were like petting
Speaker 1: pools on the ship where you would handle sea urchins
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, and you know there they have restaurants.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I stayed in the haunted there. They have like
Speaker 3: one specific room that they say is like the most
Speaker 3: haunted room because it was people weren't allowed access to
Speaker 3: it for years and then they opened it up and
Speaker 3: I stayed there a couple of months ago and nothing
Speaker 3: at all happened. I was very bummed. But you know
Speaker 3: what else is haunted in your area? Well, in sam Pedro,
Speaker 3: there's this really famous story that is as Actually I
Speaker 3: heard it when I was a kid. In it it
Speaker 3: might have been one of the first things that got
Speaker 3: me into the paranormal. There was this woman that moved
Speaker 3: into this house in sam Pedro and she was the
Speaker 3: single mother of three and one of the first things
Speaker 3: that happened when she was living there is she went
Speaker 3: to check in on her kids and there was like
Speaker 3: this old, creepy looking man's standing in her bedroom and
Speaker 3: then the kids bedroom, and then they started oozing stuff
Speaker 3: out of the walls. And so she calls this guy
Speaker 3: Berry Tap, who's like this really famous paranormal investigator, parapsychologist, guy, and.
Speaker 2: They did like all these they filmed.
Speaker 3: They actually made a documentary about it in like the
Speaker 3: early nineties, and I think you can find it online.
Speaker 3: It's called like the Haunting in sam Pedro or something
Speaker 3: like that. Okay, it's really good and it's also got
Speaker 3: like some great nineties just nineties flair to it. But
Speaker 3: when there, when they were filming it, the cameraman got
Speaker 3: choked by a rope that came out of no were
Speaker 3: and just like choked him. Oh my god, it's real spooky.
Speaker 3: But then she moves out of San Pedro and the
Speaker 3: ghost Finder and they follow her to hern Ex House.
Speaker 2: Okay, but it all started in San Pedro, California.
Speaker 1: Now, so there there's something she has that they want.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what that is interesting, but yeah,
Speaker 3: the ghost ghosts r.
Speaker 2: After I don't know. I don't know the latest is
Speaker 2: with that, but there are some people that ghosts are
Speaker 2: just into.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true. And you know the more I
Speaker 1: you know, I was cleared of an entity in Sedona
Speaker 1: last year, and what is the story.
Speaker 2: Now, You're an entity attached to you?
Speaker 1: Apparently so apparently so, and then ever since that happened,
Speaker 1: I'm hearing about it more and more from other people.
Speaker 2: Other people that have entities attached to them, or.
Speaker 1: Other people that know about it. And you know, look,
Speaker 1: I'm I. I love some hocus pocus and some woo woo.
Speaker 1: You know, I've got a bundle of sage in my
Speaker 1: hand right now.
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, you're a crystal person too, aren't you.
Speaker 1: I am a crystal person. And honestly, I have my
Speaker 1: crystals because I just think they're pretty okay for the moment,
Speaker 1: I do honor the fact that some of them hold information.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, you know, can I decipher it? No, I'm
Speaker 1: not even going.
Speaker 2: To pretend, but they look pretty.
Speaker 1: I think they're pretty. I like anything that undergoes a
Speaker 1: lot of intense pressure and comes out looking beautiful. I
Speaker 1: mean for all of us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so wait.
Speaker 3: Did you have symptoms of an entity or did you
Speaker 3: did someone else like just find that?
Speaker 1: Well here's what happened. I listen. I didn't know anything
Speaker 1: about entities. All I knew is I hadn't taken a
Speaker 1: vacation in five years, and last year we had like
Speaker 1: a four day window And I said, Greg, my husband,
Speaker 1: my sweet husband, who I don't know why he stays
Speaker 1: with me. But I said, Greg, please, can we just
Speaker 1: go somewhere. Let's go to Sedona. Okay, it's hot. We can,
Speaker 1: you know, go to the vortexas we can sit by
Speaker 1: the pool. It'll be great. Let's just go to Sedona.
Speaker 1: It's only an hour plane ride and that's about all
Speaker 1: I can handle. He said, fine. So we go to Sedona,
Speaker 1: which is a very new age metaphysical place. And I
Speaker 1: love Arizona because there's all those red rocks, and whenever
Speaker 1: I get around those red rocks, my mind just races
Speaker 1: with really good ideas or I don't know, massage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I thought, oh, I want to have I want
Speaker 1: to have a crazy medical metaphysical experience while I'm here.
Speaker 1: So there was this little metaphysical shock with all kinds
Speaker 1: of healers in it, medical mediums, all kinds of things.
Speaker 1: And I booked myself a session because I felt like
Speaker 1: I had gone dull. And what I mean by that
Speaker 1: is I felt like there was no light behind my eyes,
Speaker 1: that I had nothing to give anybody. I was just
Speaker 1: like a husk walking around putting on makeup and taking
Speaker 1: off makeup.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just from working so much.
Speaker 1: I felt like I had nothing to give any and
Speaker 1: when I even look at pictures of myself from like
Speaker 1: the day before, we went like I look like a
Speaker 1: paper doll, Like there's just nothing there. So I booked
Speaker 1: myself a session to just say, you know, maybe this
Speaker 1: psychic has something to tell me. Maybe she doesn't. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Let's just see what she has to say.
Speaker 1: If anything, it'll be a good story. So she goes, well,
Speaker 1: what can I do for you today? What's going on?
Speaker 1: And I said, well, I feel dull, and I also
Speaker 1: feel like no matter what happens in my life or
Speaker 1: in my day, I always think about how my twenty
Speaker 1: year old self would have fucked it up. So that
Speaker 1: was a weird thought process that was happening all the time,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't turn it off, Like no matter if
Speaker 1: I ordered a sandwich during the day, it was, well,
Speaker 1: you know how you would have fucked this up when
Speaker 1: you were.
Speaker 2: Twenty oh interesting.
Speaker 1: Like every single thing I did, listen to a song
Speaker 1: on the radio, well, you know your twenty year old
Speaker 1: self would have danced to that song and you would
Speaker 1: have looked stupid.
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, a year old.
Speaker 1: You, you would have met that person, made a fool
Speaker 1: of yourself. Like everything about it turned negative and it
Speaker 1: was always pointing to myself in my twenties. She goes, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: may I check you for an entity? And I said,
Speaker 1: please do. She comes over to me, she goes, may
Speaker 1: I touch you? I said, yeah, I go for it.
Speaker 1: She puts her hands on me. She goes, yeah, yep, yep.
Speaker 1: This one has tentacles. What long reaching tentacles. It's stuck
Speaker 1: on the back of your head, and it's long reaching
Speaker 1: tentacles going around your throat and down your shoulders and
Speaker 1: into your spine. May I clear you of this? I said,
Speaker 1: oh yes, please, now leave it, I want to say.
Speaker 1: She put a black stone in one hand and a
Speaker 1: gold stone in the other hand my hands, and then
Speaker 1: got behind me with some coppal and started going And
Speaker 1: I did not laugh. I let her do her thing.
Speaker 2: Was that hard?
Speaker 1: Yes, I thought, I'm being pumped. Okay, okay, Well, now
Speaker 1: after this happens, I'm going to check on you later tonight,
Speaker 1: and I want to see how you're feeling. I want
Speaker 1: you to go home, go back to your hotel, take
Speaker 1: an epsom salt bath. This is very serious. Get rid
Speaker 1: of it, get rid of all the extra energy. Because
Speaker 1: I broke up the tentacles, but shards of it still
Speaker 1: may be there. So drink lots of water or you
Speaker 1: might start feeling like you're choking. Go have an EBB,
Speaker 1: some salt bath, eat nutritious food tonight. I'm going to
Speaker 1: check on you. And she did, and god damn it
Speaker 1: if I didn't feel like I was choking. Now, that's
Speaker 1: got to be the power of suggestion.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh, I don't know. I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but she.
Speaker 1: Did check on me. She goes, how are you feeling?
Speaker 1: I said, I guess I'm feeling all right. I feel okay,
Speaker 1: I do feel lighter, but again, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's what she did for me.
Speaker 1: And then I start, you know, I get back home
Speaker 1: from Sedona, going out my life, and I start like
Speaker 1: hearing on podcasts. You know, entities they are beings that
Speaker 1: can't find the light. They're stuck in not limbo, but
Speaker 1: they just they aren't necessarily aware that they're dead, so
Speaker 1: they're just looking for any light. And they can attached
Speaker 1: to you from anywhere. So if you know, you're walking
Speaker 1: through a hospital and an entity is there, it sees
Speaker 1: your light and it'll attach to you. And then you
Speaker 1: can't get rid of it. You feel it. They're hard
Speaker 1: to get rid of, but this is how you can
Speaker 1: do it. Or you know, you walk into an airport.
Speaker 1: They're very, very susceptible in an airport if you're a
Speaker 1: high five person. There are all kinds of weird entities
Speaker 1: and they're just gonna go doors light because that makes sense.
Speaker 1: They attach itself to you thinking you're something else, and
Speaker 1: then you got to get rid of it, and it
Speaker 1: affects your thought process and it affects your physical health
Speaker 1: and all this stuff.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, they's looking for a host to
Speaker 2: feed off.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: So so overall, would you say that after that happened,
Speaker 3: you were you didn't, like, did you stop having that
Speaker 3: thought process about yourself and your twenties and all of that.
Speaker 1: It did stop for a a little bit, but now
Speaker 1: it's back. Oh no, So I need to go deeper.
Speaker 1: I need to be deeper. Uh. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: know that it's an entity. I have not gone dull.
Speaker 1: I'll say that I've never had that feeling again where
Speaker 1: I've been like there there's I'm empty, there's nothing in here.
Speaker 3: Are you somebody that goes to psychics or have you
Speaker 3: done that in the past.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you this, I did not believe necessarily
Speaker 1: until I went this is so stupid. I'm on Long
Speaker 1: Island Medium.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I forgot you did that.
Speaker 3: Yes, I did, because when I went over to your
Speaker 3: house with Sam that one time, I think you had
Speaker 3: just done that.
Speaker 2: It had just gone about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never had somebody that's been on that.
Speaker 2: Show on this show. Okay, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: A lot of the stuff she told me my family
Speaker 1: would not sign off.
Speaker 2: On, oh, because it was like personal families.
Speaker 1: They just didn't want it brought up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she.
Speaker 1: Hit on something that that I verified later. And listen,
Speaker 1: when I went on it, I thought, okay, listen, this
Speaker 1: is going to be a ten minute thing. I'm going
Speaker 1: to go in. She's not going to get a read
Speaker 1: on me, and I'm going to go on to my
Speaker 1: next appointment. But I was there for two hours. A
Speaker 1: lot of stuff showed up, and also something showed up
Speaker 1: for my manager who was not in the room, and
Speaker 1: this did not get put on the episode. But she
Speaker 1: kept saying, Okay, there's someone here who won't let anybody
Speaker 1: else come through until they say their piece, and she
Speaker 1: kept talking and talking and I said, I have no
Speaker 1: idea who this is, and she kept talking and talking.
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know who this is. My manager
Speaker 1: comes in and said that's for me.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was my brother.
Speaker 1: He was murdered. Like everything she was saying was my
Speaker 1: manager's brother.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: I'd let that be on camera because it was amazing.
Speaker 3: But so the things that she did touch on with
Speaker 3: you and everything like that, they were all accurate.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 1: Everything was accurate, and it was stuff I didn't know,
Speaker 1: but I found out. I started finding clues and then
Speaker 1: I was asked to be on Tyler Henry's show.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, did you do it?
Speaker 1: I did do it? What a frickin mind? For three hours?
Speaker 2: Three hours?
Speaker 1: Nothing I gave him nothing. All I gave him was
Speaker 1: this rose quartz and that I meditate with sometimes. And
Speaker 1: I figured, I'm going to lead this in any direction.
Speaker 1: If I'm supposed to know something, it will come through.
Speaker 1: And if I'm not supposed to know anything, that's fine.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go poking around in things that
Speaker 1: I don't want it, that I don't need to know. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's not gonna help anybody yeah, So it got really
Speaker 1: emotional and it got really raw, and it it it
Speaker 1: was all true, and it was stuff that he could
Speaker 1: not have looked up because it happened so long ago
Speaker 1: that there's no like internet record of it. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it solved like a big family mystery. Oh really yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: big family mystery that I don't want to get emotional
Speaker 1: talking about it now, but I recommend you you watch it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, real deal.
Speaker 1: He has that gift. And I'm telling you, he spent
Speaker 1: three hours with me. The the thing was edited down
Speaker 1: to what ten minutes?
Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah, because doesn't he spend a lot
Speaker 3: of time like scribbling and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I have my scribble and he nailed it.
Speaker 1: And everything that he said was verified independently by my mom,
Speaker 1: who does not believe in this stuff. And what he
Speaker 1: said was was very important and like, my family needs
Speaker 1: to be healed from this. And I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to start this conversation with my mom. How
Speaker 1: do I do that? And so one day I just said, well, Mom,
Speaker 1: I visited a psychic and she goes, oh, did Kenny
Speaker 1: come through? Like I couldn't have set it up any better.
Speaker 1: This is her brother Kenny that killed himself and just
Speaker 1: out of the blue she said that, and I said, well, yeah, actually,
Speaker 1: and this came up, and this came up, and my
Speaker 1: mom said, yeah, yeah, oh no, was it this person?
Speaker 1: Was it this person? I mean every she was not
Speaker 1: closed off to it. She she was actually kind of
Speaker 1: seemed like she was grateful for the information, and she
Speaker 1: validated other things about it that didn't make sense to me,
Speaker 1: other details. So, you know, I do believe that some
Speaker 1: people really have the gift. I also believe that not
Speaker 1: everyone is readable. And so when some when you meet
Speaker 1: someone who's able to read every single person, I don't
Speaker 1: believe that. I don't believe that.
Speaker 3: So is that something like a matter of being open
Speaker 3: to it you think?
Speaker 1: I think sometimes the channels are open, and sometimes people
Speaker 1: are are low vibe and they they don't give you anything.
Speaker 1: They're just unreadable. Doesn't mean it can't be ever, but
Speaker 1: I believe that, you know, just like doctors don't give
Speaker 1: one hundred percent correct diagnoses all the time, right, and
Speaker 1: you just don't get a reading. And sometimes, like with
Speaker 1: a with someone who actually has that gift, what they're
Speaker 1: saying does not make sense to them. So exactly throw
Speaker 1: out things and symbols and whatever, and you got to
Speaker 1: figure it out. I don't necessarily believe that true psychics
Speaker 1: are able to very eloquently describe something from start to
Speaker 1: finish and nail it.
Speaker 3: Did you notice like big differences between the two of
Speaker 3: those I mean you went to like the two biggest
Speaker 3: TV psychics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah today, did you.
Speaker 3: Notice like differences and they're uh, the way their process
Speaker 3: was with their gifts?
Speaker 1: I did. I did. Tyler is a very sweet, sensitive soul,
Speaker 1: and I feel like he is trying to help, okay,
Speaker 1: and he he is very measured in what he says
Speaker 1: and the whole way his his whole show is set up,
Speaker 1: like the executive producer of his show was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: so we did this, but I need to we need
Speaker 1: to put you back together afterwards. We don't want you
Speaker 1: leaving like in a bad state. We want this to
Speaker 1: be a positive thing for you. But we're not gonna
Speaker 1: let you leave completely crushed or or broken or anything
Speaker 1: like that. So there was like, yeah, everybody, because really,
Speaker 1: after three hours, I really felt like I had been
Speaker 1: kicked down the stairs. Yeah, take a long nap. And
Speaker 1: luckily my best friend was with me and she saw
Speaker 1: this whole thing, and I don't remember getting in the
Speaker 1: car to go home. It was a lot, you know.
Speaker 1: And the Long Island Medium, you know, she has the
Speaker 1: same process where she's like scribbling and scribbling and but
Speaker 1: you know, people have suggested that she wears an earpiece.
Speaker 1: I could maybe see that too.
Speaker 3: Well, she's got a lot of hair covering her, yeah,
Speaker 3: so I.
Speaker 1: Could maybe see that too, because I believe once you
Speaker 1: put someone like this on television, you got to come away.
Speaker 2: With something, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: I mean I think about that with ghost hunting shows
Speaker 3: and stuff all the time. It's like you still got
Speaker 3: to make a show exactly.
Speaker 1: You got to cut something into you can't just like
Speaker 1: waste time. So that's that's the stinky thing about it,
Speaker 1: is like once you put once you start, you know,
Speaker 1: doing this for entertainment purposes, then you're kind of creating
Speaker 1: some of the magic, so you.
Speaker 3: Have some to show, yeah, or googling exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: So I would kind of buy that, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I would also not say that, oh, she's a total fraud, no,
Speaker 1: you know, because I know what I saw. But again,
Speaker 1: my family didn't sign off on you know, eighty percent
Speaker 1: of my reading, so what they're left with nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got to they gotta do something. So I've never
Speaker 1: actually watched My Long Eye. I've never watched either show
Speaker 1: because I lived it. I don't need to watch it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, well I know what I'm about to
Speaker 2: watch after those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I I was. I don't know. I feel
Speaker 1: like I could tell a good psychic from a bad psychic.
Speaker 1: And you know now that I've Tyler was beyond.
Speaker 3: Absolutely call him up to see if the entity is back.
Speaker 3: Ask him if he's feeling any tentacles in his scribbles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well shit, maybe that's something. Can I put you
Speaker 1: on retainer? I feel like this is something you need
Speaker 1: to learn, and you know, I'd love to be your
Speaker 1: guinea pig if you feel oh yeah, all right, we'll
Speaker 1: get into it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: An online course you can take and then I'm here.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, i'd love to do you want to
Speaker 2: hear some ghost voices?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, we do this thing on the show.
Speaker 3: EVP h ev pase, Okay, do you know what an
Speaker 3: EVP is?
Speaker 2: It's an EVP is when people.
Speaker 3: Catch ghost voices electronic voice phenomenon. Sometimes it's an EVP.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's an ev police. So I go to YouTube
Speaker 3: and I try to find real EVPs where the ghost
Speaker 3: hunter tells us what they believe the ghost is saying.
Speaker 3: And I like to have my guests guess what they think,
Speaker 3: either what they hear the ghost saying or what they
Speaker 3: think the ghost hunter thinks the ghost is saying. Oh right, okay,
Speaker 3: I got two EVPs from the Queen Mary because I
Speaker 3: wanted to keep the theme going here. This first one
Speaker 3: on YouTube is from a channel called Planet Paranormal Investigations
Speaker 3: slash Bob Davis, and they write, this is a really
Speaker 3: clear class A EVP recorded in the changing rooms of
Speaker 3: the Queen Mary's first class swimming pool area. I don't
Speaker 3: know who it is, possibly the woman seen in the
Speaker 3: pool area in her swimsuit. Okay, tell me what you
Speaker 3: think this ghost is saying. It might be kind of loud,
Speaker 3: so just to warn you, all right, could you hear
Speaker 3: your voice?
Speaker 1: I heard it, but let me let me hear it again.
Speaker 2: Okay, and he guesses, I'll do it again.
Speaker 1: Okay, what I clearly heard?
Speaker 2: Okay, clearly Class A, Class.
Speaker 1: A she said, chilopa.
Speaker 2: Now she's hungry. I mean, if you're a ghost.
Speaker 1: He's hungry. And I love the times. I'm going to
Speaker 1: say that is that is an EVP.
Speaker 3: Well see, and she's in the swimming area, so maybe
Speaker 3: she just got out of the pool because you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't have a chiloopa before you go in the pool.
Speaker 3: So she's probably saying, okay, I'm done swimming and chiloopa. Now, well, okay,
Speaker 3: here's some options. Okay, I'll tell you it's not that,
Speaker 3: but it could be.
Speaker 2: I mean, no, it isn't. I know it.
Speaker 1: I know it isn't.
Speaker 2: Okay, is it? Hey?
Speaker 3: Oh no, my cat, B my toe is cut. C No,
Speaker 3: I can't or D I don't know what's up. All right,
Speaker 3: let's hear it one more time.
Speaker 1: No, I can't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's no, I can't. All right, here's it one
Speaker 3: more this one.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, okay.
Speaker 3: So that was in the changing room, the changing room
Speaker 3: of the swimming pool area.
Speaker 1: Which is allegedly a vortex. Yes, now what does that mean.
Speaker 3: Well, it's like a portal, like to another world, I believe,
Speaker 3: so go to just coming in and out.
Speaker 1: Oh I want to go there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's several places that in this world that people
Speaker 3: believe are portals, and it's fascinating because actually, yeah, because
Speaker 3: I've talked to people that believe that. I talked to
Speaker 3: somebody that believes that they had a portal in their
Speaker 3: closet in their bedroom as a child, and they would
Speaker 3: just see random people like in their bedroom, stare at
Speaker 3: them in the middle of the night, and then go
Speaker 3: into the closet and they would just be a different
Speaker 3: person every day because they just and this person assumes
Speaker 3: that their closet was like I don't know how people
Speaker 3: crossed over or I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's so fascinating. Okay, here's one more.
Speaker 3: This one is from Para Explorer Project and it says
Speaker 3: presented is a strong audio capture made within the ship's
Speaker 3: first class pool room. Same area while the tour host
Speaker 3: Para Explorer Matthew is providing guests standing on the forward
Speaker 3: entry staircase ghostly. While he's presenting them ghostly history, what
Speaker 3: appears to be a spirited female voice question is clearly heard.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see what we think this ghost is saying.
Speaker 2: This one's louder zee.
Speaker 3: Be warned, it's a lot of background noise, but you
Speaker 3: can hear like a female voice here one more time,
Speaker 3: can't tell I'll.
Speaker 2: Give you some options.
Speaker 3: Is it a caesadiyah maybe to go with the CHILUPA,
Speaker 3: is it.
Speaker 2: B can you see me? Is it C I'm sleepy?
Speaker 2: Or D please leave me? All right, let's try it.
Speaker 2: Oh please leave me, that's what I hear. But they
Speaker 2: think it's can you see me?
Speaker 3: Which that's kind of like a weird thing to think
Speaker 3: about if you're a ghost and there's like paranormal investigators
Speaker 3: to be like, can you see me?
Speaker 2: I'm right here. Oh, I'll play it again.
Speaker 1: I please leave me? Is what I what it sounds
Speaker 1: like to me?
Speaker 3: That's what I think too, But it might be the
Speaker 3: same ghost from both of those videos. Yeah, all right, Wendy,
Speaker 3: Well that's a thank you so much for doing this.
Speaker 3: You really brought it today, and I'm so happy to
Speaker 3: hear from somebody that's been on not one, but two
Speaker 3: psychic shows and celebrity ghost stories. You know, there's another
Speaker 3: show now called Famously Afraid if you want to add
Speaker 3: another one to your.
Speaker 2: Dear list of celebrity ghost shows.
Speaker 1: Got to catch them all, you know, Yeah, add another
Speaker 1: tile to the rich mosaic. That is my normal history.
Speaker 3: Well keep me updated if well, if you know you
Speaker 3: go to another psychic or anything happens.
Speaker 1: Well, definitely, and keep me updated on your entity clearing expertise,
Speaker 1: you know, if you ever do take that up.
Speaker 2: I listen.
Speaker 3: It's hard time appointment with you in this current age
Speaker 3: right now, there's no drag shows going on, so I
Speaker 3: might be looking into entity clearing from my my.
Speaker 2: New side hustle, natural progression. Yeah, why not anything to
Speaker 2: not have a real job. Yes, well, Wendy, thank you
Speaker 2: so much. I appreciate this so much. You're just the best,
Speaker 2: of course, thank you. All right, well, thank you, Wendy.
Speaker 3: I actually watched her Hollywood Medium with Tyler Henry after
Speaker 3: we had this conversation, and wow, it is some heavy
Speaker 3: stuff and I strongly recommend if you are able to
Speaker 3: go watch it.
Speaker 2: I just like watch it on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 3: I bought the episode, but it was really worth it
Speaker 3: and wow, it was just it was insane. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I highly recommend watching that anyway. Guys, thanks so much
Speaker 3: for listening. We have some more episodes coming up there
Speaker 3: already recorded that I cannot wait for. And yeah, please
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Speaker 3: a ghost story, send it to me. Make sure you
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be recording.
Speaker 3: One any day now, so I look forward to that.
Speaker 3: I love you all, both living and dead.
Speaker 2: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't
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