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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam. This is John the og Storytime

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Speaker 1: podcast host. Oh yeah, we got some great stories coming up.

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Speaker 1: But before that, we got a teeny two minute break

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Speaker 1: from the sponsors that keep this show propped up like

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Speaker 1: a little house. Oh yeah, I don't want an affair child,

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Speaker 1: but my family is pressuring me. Oh boy, sure your

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Speaker 1: warning mention of substances and assault. So I, twenty seven mail,

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Speaker 1: was in a very high stress situation because of my

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Speaker 1: family and business problems four months and I failed to

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Speaker 1: deal with it in a healthy way. My fault. I

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Speaker 1: was a substance user during my college days. When I

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Speaker 1: asked my girlfriend twenty four female for a date, she

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Speaker 1: said I would have said yes if you weren't an addict. Nope,

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Speaker 1: I said, give me a chance. I will leave everything.

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Speaker 1: We started going on dates and in six months time,

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Speaker 1: I was no longer a regular user. Boom. My whole

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Speaker 1: relationship was built on this promise. Oh god, I'm waiting

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Speaker 1: for the other shooted rop. By the way, this comes

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Speaker 1: go to the r slash. Okay, Storytime stubred it. So

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Speaker 1: whenever my friends would invite me for a party, they

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Speaker 1: made sure that there were no substances around, but at

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Speaker 1: a party over a month ago, it turned out there were.

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Speaker 1: I went alone because my girlfriend was visiting her mother.

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned earlier, everything going on in my life

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Speaker 1: had been wearing me down. When I saw the Devil's lettuce,

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Speaker 1: I thought just trying it once might help me unwine

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Speaker 1: for at least one night, and like a fool, I

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Speaker 1: did it after being clean for six years.

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Speaker 2: That's rough.

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Speaker 1: After that, I didn't stop there. I ended up drinking

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Speaker 1: too much as well. Later that night, my former friends

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Speaker 1: with Benefits twenty seven female no approached me in a

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Speaker 1: way I wasn't expecting, and eventually I made another poor choice.

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Speaker 2: That's really sad. Like obviously she did never okay, but

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Speaker 2: like it's really sad that this person relapsed. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: made poor choices because of it. Really sad.

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Speaker 1: I'm not offering excuses. I fully admit that it was

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Speaker 1: my own bad day decisions that put me in the situation.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to explain the whole context of what happened,

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Speaker 1: at least Opie's owning up to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I told my girlfriend everything the next time I saw her,

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Speaker 1: But when I told her, she told me that she

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Speaker 1: already knew everything. What I didn't know was that a

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Speaker 1: fair partner recorded everything. Whoa and sent it to my girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: Booh oh, you think this was a trap? This was

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Speaker 1: It's a trap. She did so an attempt to break

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Speaker 2: Was she succeeded?

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Speaker 1: Do you think Opie would date you after that? How

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Speaker 1: some days later, girlfriend gave me a chance with some conditions. Wow,

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Speaker 1: she just likes a project, which were reasonable, and I agreed. Wow, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I would give this guy another chance.

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Speaker 1: Everything was going fine. Oh god, come on, dude, come

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Speaker 1: on please until one day, Oh, my fair partner came

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Speaker 2: Dang, she successfully. That was the most successful trap I've ever.

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Speaker 1: Seen, sang, dude. She was ready one go. Eggs were

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Speaker 2: Dude, this was more successful than she had hopes.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, she is. She's the fastest gun in

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Speaker 1: took her to a guynecologist and I found out that yes,

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Speaker 1: she is indeed pregnant. I just don't know if the

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Speaker 1: shouldn't accept her word for it. Yeah, let's check made

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Speaker 1: a McDonald says paternity test under it'll get take a

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Speaker 1: confirm who the father is. A fair partner is telling

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Speaker 1: me that according to the timeline, I am the father,

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Speaker 1: but I am not taking any chances. I have told

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Speaker 2: That's I don't like that, that she shouldn't. She should

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Speaker 1: But your kid, you, I think you made a choice.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you made a choice, and you you even owned

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Speaker 2: up to that choice. You're like, I made a mistake

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Speaker 1: People aren't going to be good parents, and like it's

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Speaker 1: but it is still a bad reflection of op.

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Speaker 2: But I think that's that decision needs to be like

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to be a good parent, and not like, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: my girlfriend doesn't want me to parent this kid that's mine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. In her last attempt to get me, she told

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Speaker 1: My parents started guilt tripping me, saying that I will

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Speaker 1: When I didn't budge, they started threatening that they will

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Speaker 1: They started reminding me how it will be a huge loss.

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Speaker 1: I told them that I am doing very well and

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Speaker 1: in a decade I will not feel the loss. So

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Speaker 1: when they saw that I can't be financially blackmailed, they

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Speaker 1: I have told everyone again and again that I will

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Speaker 1: to go away from my life. I don't think that's true.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's true.

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Speaker 1: You can still be with your girlfriend, Yeah, but you

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Speaker 1: can be with your girlfriend and co parent with this woman.

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Speaker 1: But she does sound terrible.

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Speaker 2: Megan McDonald's I think he needs substance abuse therapy before

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Speaker 2: getting anywhere near parenting child. I agree with that, agreed,

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Speaker 2: I absolutely agree, But I think also he just needs

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Speaker 1: I know the child is innocent, but I can't be

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Speaker 1: understand I may grow to resent the child. This is

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Speaker 1: create a rift in my family. I want some outside

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Speaker 1: none of us are parents. Yeah, so obviously we don't know.

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Speaker 1: But I know if I knocked a fair maiden up,

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Speaker 2: In some way, I get what he's saying, be a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but and I don't. I don't think that would

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Speaker 1: the unfair maiden. But also I want to be a parent.

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Speaker 1: So that's like I think that a society says, do

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Speaker 2: I don't think you should be forced to be a parent.

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Speaker 2: But I think also there's like I mean, I guess

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Speaker 2: he's responsibilities. There is there is responsibilities, and he is

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Speaker 2: saying that he'll he would be financially responsible, which is good.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, some people are saying about like him being

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Speaker 2: under the influence. That is a great point. It didn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think she took advantage of him.

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Speaker 1: I do think. I don't think he views it as

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Speaker 1: even takenicality. I think she did take advantage of him.

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Speaker 2: I believe so, yes, she planned all that.

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Speaker 1: He's not interpreting it as as that. I understand that no,

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Speaker 1: like no one should force to be a parent because

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Speaker 1: would be bad for the child. But I do think

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Speaker 1: I think you are shirking a responsibility by not parenting

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Speaker 2: Unless you're unless you're putting the child up for adoption,

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Speaker 2: there are there are other options. But I think like

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Speaker 2: when one parent is like, yeah, I'm taking care of

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Speaker 2: doing like he is providing financially, so that is good.

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Speaker 1: The blind one says, MENO always process that they can

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's tricky because I think the one

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Speaker 2: and like looking at it he is providing for the kid.

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Speaker 2: Anonymous is the way you're shaming is the equivalent of

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Speaker 2: a shaming a woman for shaming for giving up a

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Speaker 2: I don't think that anyone should be a shame for

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Speaker 2: can't parent for the like parent the child. So I guess,

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Speaker 2: like that does make sense. That comparison't makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do. I mean, like I think it's

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Speaker 1: I think it giving up a child for adoption is

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Speaker 1: a really hard It's not it's not an easy task

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Speaker 1: I feel it's it's it's it's to say it's not

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Speaker 1: not true, because there's some level of responsibility that you

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Speaker 1: the like the foster care system is not that great,

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Speaker 1: and so when you are giving up a kid for adoption.

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Speaker 1: There is causing like putting into question whether you can

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Speaker 1: like find a good person, but you can. There's like

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Speaker 2: Miss Jabery says, don't force people to parent child'sport, yes,

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Speaker 2: but not forced a parent, yeah, which I think makes sense. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't think that the mom is going

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Speaker 2: to be a very good parent either. You'll probably just

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Speaker 2: blackmail other people to raise you're good for. I think

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Speaker 1: That is that was a rough story. We got one more.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I twenty seven male live with my twenty

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Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Throwaway, am I the

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Speaker 2: It's odd, but I haven't lived with my parents in

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00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 2: six years, so I don't know if she changed her

436
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,679
Speaker 2: home habits during this time I was gone. I just

437
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 2: brushed it off as a self esteem boost and was

438
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 2: proud of her. Then she got especially close to Annie.

439
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 2: I assumed it was just admiration, but then it got

440
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: super weird.

441
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 1: Uh, oh, is the sister crushing.

442
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 2: On She was sticking even closer to Annie, and it

443
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 2: was like she was butting in on us when we

444
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 2: were being romantic. But it was like she was trying

445
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 2: to prevent romantic moments from happening. It was cock blocking

446
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 2: by trying to direct Annie somewhere else. He was now

447
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 2: could She would also leave the room or look sad

448
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 2: when we kissed, I got that feeling so weird, that's weird.

449
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 2: I got the feeling she had a crush on Annie.

450
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,199
Speaker 2: I confronted her about her feelings and told her that

451
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 2: it was fine if she had a crush, but she

452
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 2: was taking it too far and she denied it. Now

453
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 2: my sister knows. I know she's a sapphok because a

454
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 2: few years ago I sent her one of those if

455
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: ex friend was ever more than a friend techs. She

456
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 2: denied that they were more than friends. I told her

457
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: that I always will support her and moved on. Things

458
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 2: would stop for a while and then pick up. We

459
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 2: would have this conversation, then the cycle would repeat. Annie

460
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 2: figured out that Mia probably had a crush on her

461
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: and was uncomfortable by the entire.

462
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 1: Situation, especially with them living together. It's a little yeah eow.

463
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 2: A few weeks ago Annie kind of sisters owned Mia,

464
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 2: and things just escalated.

465
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: She escalated after being sisters owned yikes, you're like a

466
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: sister to me.

467
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 2: She openly flirted with Annie to the point where Annie

468
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 2: didn't even want to be at home. Oh gooch guarding

469
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: Okay time, we couldn't do anything romantic at home because

470
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 2: she might see and start openly bawling in her room.

471
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 2: Mia was very cold to me and always snapping at

472
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 2: me for small reasons. At this point, I feel like.

473
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 1: It's like, you kick her out. You got to kick

474
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: her out.

475
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: Wow, this is inappropriate. I had enough. When she made

476
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 2: breakfast for Annie and her using the food I specifically

477
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 2: bought for myself, and Annie walked out crying. I pulled

478
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 2: her aside and told her that she needs to stop

479
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: right now or I will punt her out. She acted

480
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 2: like she didn't know what I was talking about again,

481
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 2: so now I'm definitely punting her out. The only problem

482
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: is my parents. I can just punt out my little

483
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 2: sister and not tell them why. If I tell the truth,

484
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 2: my sister will be outed. But if I tell a

485
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 2: half truth, like she made my fiance uncomfortable, they'll hate

486
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: my fiance because I can't actually explain what my sister

487
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 2: did to make her uncomfortable without outing her.

488
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: Can we just say like, hey, we want to we

489
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: want to have our own space.

490
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: She's she's interfering in our relationship. Yeah, what do you

491
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 2: mean you have to out your sister?

492
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 1: No, you could just say she's Gouc Garden.

493
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you can say we're trying to have

494
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: a relationship as adults and I want to walk around

495
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: in our relationship. Yeah, I don't have to do not

496
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 2: out like really never.

497
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,239
Speaker 1: I think there's a way to say this without outing her.

498
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: There's really never any excuse for outing someone. My sister

499
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 2: deserves a chance to come out. And this isn't like

500
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 2: I accidentally outed her. Either is getting herself outed the

501
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: consequences of her action or would I be the ale?

502
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: You would be the ale. She's the ale for interfering

503
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: and making your idan say uncomfortable.

504
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: But it's necessary information for your parents to know.

505
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 2: I just also don't think it's necessary too.

506
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you could just say, hey, like, we're trying

507
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: to have more intimate moments and my sister's getting the way,

508
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 1: So can I think to make our relationship in marriage

509
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: or soon to be marriage work, you can't live with

510
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: us anymore? Yeah, I think it's normal.

511
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: That's normal, And if they say what, who cares at it?

512
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: I'm just going to clarify why I can't say that

513
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: the living arrangement wasn't working out. Like I said in

514
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: the beginning, my parents are high risk, so she cannot

515
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: see her friends at all. So if it just wasn't

516
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 2: working out, they tell me to suck it up until

517
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 2: the school year starts. And then you say no. You

518
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: just say no, You put your foot down, You say

519
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 2: it like we cannot live together. If I didn't, I'd

520
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: be the heartless knucklehead who doesn't want to let my

521
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: sister have a social life. Then be that, I like, honestly,

522
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: just be that. They'll get over it.

523
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: I think they'll get over it.

524
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 2: I think they'll get over it. Second, I don't think

525
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: they'd believe me in the first place, because I've never

526
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: had a problem with my sister. They just assume I

527
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: was covering for Annie. Then be clear, you say like, hey,

528
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: she's been like really rude to me, blah blah blah,

529
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 2: I don't care. Figure it out. You don't have to

530
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 2: out her. No final verdict not the a hole relevant

531
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: comments said, you're the ale. If you out me, you can,

532
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: in fact punt your sister out without telling your parents.

533
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: Why keep it to as simple the living arrangement wasn't

534
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: working out, feel free to ask me if she wants

535
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: to share why perfect bo TVH. I really want to

536
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: know what you mean by openly flirting and bawling if

537
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 2: she saw you being romantic. Because this whole story sounds

538
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: inky and it's really weird that you've basically been pestering

539
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: your sister for years to tell you she's a sapphoic

540
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: Opie says the living arrangement wasn't working out, wouldn't be

541
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 2: an okay answer either? Yes, it would?

542
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it weird? What to send that tax?

543
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: Basically like, hey, is blank more more than a friend?

544
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: Is that weird?

545
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 2: Ah? Not necessarily?

546
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: I mean I'm trying to think because like.

547
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: Depends on how many if you like kept pushing it.

548
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: And yeah, I feel like it's a little what I

549
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: mean like if it was like a straight relationship, you

550
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: would say like, oh, is like is that person more

551
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: than a friend?

552
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: It depends on how I said it.

553
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: How I feel like it's normal to be like, is

554
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: that person more than a friend? In a straight relationship?

555
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: If you have a close relationship with your sibling, which

556
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: it seems like they ever did.

557
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean, they're living together, so they must, so I feel.

558
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: Like it would be normal necessarily strange.

559
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: I think it. Yeah, I think you would say the

560
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: same thing in a straight relationship. I don't think it's

561
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: weird to say it for same sex relationship.

562
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: I've always been okay living with my sisters, so they

563
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: would assume it was my fiance who didn't like living

564
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: with her. Even if I insist it was me, I'd

565
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: still be the heartless knucklehead who prevented his sister from

566
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 2: having a social life. Another user says, you can decline

567
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: to continue the conversation if they won't accept your answer.

568
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 2: If your parents are this pushy and unreasonable, it's unlikely

569
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 2: that outing your sister would do much good. Opie says,

570
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: I mean then I'd be hated. Any other time I

571
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 2: would have taken that bullet for my sister, But based

572
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: on how she was acting, I'm not willing to have

573
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 2: my parents angry at me because of her. You'd be

574
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: the I don't care. Honestly, you'd be the a hole

575
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: if you did. You see here, Yeah, stop making excuses.

576
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 2: Just tell them that it's not working out. Do the

577
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: it's not working out, talk to me if you want

578
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: to know why. Yeah, stop stop it. But still you

579
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 2: can just say she cries all the time and we

580
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 2: can't parent her or something. You don't need to take

581
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: it as far as you're saying you want to.

582
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, agreed.

583
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: I agree.

584
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like op just.

585
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: Wants to out her, That's what I'm saying. He's like,

586
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 2: there's no other.

587
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: Way here is. It almost feels like he's like, I

588
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: don't want to say I don't think this is necessarily true,

589
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 1: but it's like it almost feels like he's using it

590
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: as an excuse to out her.

591
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird.

592
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessarily true. Though.

593
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 2: There are a million ways to say you can't live

594
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: with her without it being I can't live with her

595
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: because she's a sapphic that apparently has a crush on

596
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: my fiance she doesn't want to own up to. Yeah,

597
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: Opie says, believe me. Also, what you could do is

598
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: say like she's been really really dude. I mean, I

599
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: guess you don't want to bring your fiance into this,

600
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: but I think that even if you said she's she's

601
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: got I think that she's got this crush on my

602
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 2: fiance and she's been really rude and making my fiancee uncomfortable.

603
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if they would believe you. I think

604
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: they would be like, if you didn't approve of that.

605
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

606
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: I think they would do the same thing. So I

607
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: feel like it doesn't.

608
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: Matter, doesn't accomplish what you're trying to do here exactly.

609
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: Just just say something else, Opie says. Believe me, I'm

610
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: genuinely thinking of a way not outer and not get

611
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: hated by my parents or my fiance hated by my parents.

612
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: I don't think you're thinking that hard.

613
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, two brain cells to rub together.

614
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: If I say she cries all the time, they would

615
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: assume I'm doing something to her because she doesn't cry

616
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: with them. We can't parent is an excuse because she's

617
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: twenty one. There's no parenting involved. Of course, I could

618
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: always lie that she did something else, but she'd tell

619
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: my parents that was a lie, and then I'd be

620
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: hated or have to out her. Well, then I don't know,

621
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: you tell her if you don't fess up to this,

622
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: I like there are other ways. Another commoner says, if

623
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: you out her, she's also going to say that's a lie.

624
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: Opie says, I mean, she can't really lie about this

625
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: because there were many signs pointing to her being a sapphic.

626
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: This would just be the nail in the coffin. I

627
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: don't like this guy. I don't like him. I don't

628
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: like him. Another commenter says, stick to finding a different

629
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: way to say it. It really seems like you want

630
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: to tell them.

631
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: That's what's so weird.

632
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: Because you keep circling back to it in your responses.

633
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: Just because you hadn't had an issue with her when

634
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: you guys lived at your parents' house or whatever, it

635
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that can't change as an adult now living

636
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: your own lives, little habits and things add up, like

637
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: with her seemingly trying to ruin your romantic moments. You

638
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: could definitely say you guys aren't getting the privacy or

639
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: personal space you want with her.

640
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,239
Speaker 1: Which is literally what we were saying before. True, that

641
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: is totally normal. Your parents would understand that. You're like, yeah,

642
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: like I mean, when you guys were living in here,

643
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: we are our spicy sleep went down way.

644
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: And maybe she's confused about where she stands with things.

645
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: Maybe she knows she like girls, but isn't sure where

646
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: she stands on it, which would add to her being crazy.

647
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: And her being crazy and apparently erratic is why you

648
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: don't want her there. She's overly emotional and I don't

649
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: know why, and we can't handle it. There's another reason

650
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: your reasoning doesn't have to be you saying anything remotely

651
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: close to her being a sapphic. You're very concerned about

652
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: your parents hating you, But haven't that I've seen mentioned

653
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: how much your sister would be affected if you tell

654
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: your parents you can't live with her because of her

655
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: crazy sapphic actions. Oh, he says, I don't wanta tell them.

656
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: I'm sorry if it seemed like I did. However, compared

657
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: to being hated by my parents, I'd rather tell them.

658
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: What are you talking?

659
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: Your parents are not gonna hate you, I mean unless

660
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: your parents are unreasonable, which is all the more reason

661
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: to not tell them your sister is saffic. If unless

662
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: your parents are crazy unreasonable, then just say it's not

663
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: working out, and maybe they'd be annoyed at you. There's

664
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: no reason they would hate you for saying you want

665
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: to have your own place with your partner.

666
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also like, are you going to risk your

667
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: parents hating your sisters? Yeah, but they're not a chill

668
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: with her being talked to her at all.

669
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: I don't think so, I feel like he hasn't talked

670
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: to her at all. Any other time I would have taken

671
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 2: the bullet for my sister, but right now I'm not

672
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: even sure I view her as my sister. I think

673
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: the personal space is a good suggestion, but my sister

674
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: would deny it, and that would lead to a whole

675
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: can of drama. The overly emotional would also be off

676
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: with them, because there would have to be something that

677
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: would make her emotional. Then you say, I don't know

678
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: what it is. Yeah, maybe it's something at school. I

679
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: don't know.

680
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: Just say that you want your space, just try it?

681
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: Which would you're like assuming so many things which would

682
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: lead back to me doing something to make her cry

683
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: all the time. My parents overreact and are super pessimistic,

684
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: which is precisely the reason she had to come here

685
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: in the first place. My sister wouldn't really be affected

686
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: by telling them, except from them being overly annoying. My

687
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: parents are not closet guard and are very supportive, but

688
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: they'd be surprised. I don't care. It is not your

689
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: right to tell them. I literally don't care about any

690
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: of your excuses. Yeah I don't care. Yeah, your sibling

691
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: is being weird and making your fiance uncomfortable, which is

692
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: not okay, So kick her out. Kick her out. I

693
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 2: don't care. There is no reason to out someone. I

694
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: don't care. This person makes me so annoying. My sister

695
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: is a bit shy, so I think she'd be uncomfortable

696
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: with them being excessively supportive. Another commenter says a couple

697
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: of questions, how old is Mia and what kind of

698
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: texts are you talking about here? If X friend was

699
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: ever more than a friend? Also, why did Annie walk

700
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: out crying just because Mia made them breakfast? Opie says

701
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: Mia is twenty one. The text I was talking about

702
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: was if X frind was ever more than a friend,

703
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: you know, I'd still be here by your side no

704
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: matter what. I'll always love you forever. Apparently that's a

705
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: freaking lie. You don't love her forever? You just said

706
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: she's not even your sister.

707
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah you talk to her, Yeah I did. It feels

708
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: like this guy is obsessed with crying to out his

709
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: sister and all also trying to like downplay the familial relationship.

710
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Annie walked out crying because she hates feeling like

711
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: she's letting me get bullied. Basically, she felt like Mia

712
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: was pestering me because of her, and she was just

713
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: letting it happen when she could do something. Another commenter says, info,

714
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: I feel like this requires more context, like how old

715
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: your sister is twenty one? Another person says, again, a

716
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: lot of parents can be not closet guard until it

717
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: involves their family. I still think that if you decided

718
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: to out your sister, you would be the ape hole.

719
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: Agreed, But in.

720
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: This case, your sister is also the a hole. It's

721
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: not mutually exclusive. You could all be a.

722
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: Holes a holes on a right was in the family. Yep.

723
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: At twenty one, she's old enough to know how to

724
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: behave even if she's going through an overly horny baby

725
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: gay phase. Opie says, my parents are not closet guard.

726
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: My cousin came out as attracted the same gender two

727
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: years ago and they were very supportive.

728
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: I guess different than your direct face.

729
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: It's so different with your direct family. My mom's oldest

730
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: brother is also pan. I've been suggested to threaten to

731
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: out her oh and see if she chooses to change

732
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: her behavior. If not, I should punt her out. Don't

733
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: threaten out her, just threaten to kick her out.

734
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, what huh is the story done? Are we done?

735
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 2: This story's making me so angry. We're only halfway through.

736
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 2: Like the amount of justification that this guy is going through,

737
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: like the hoop said, he's jumping through to justify outing

738
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: his sister, it's ridiculous crazy. If my parents ask, I'll

739
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: tell them to ask her. And if she chooses to

740
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 2: lie to them and paint us is the bad guys,

741
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: then and only then will I tell them the truth.

742
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: Another commenter says, if you out your sister, you're the

743
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: a hole. If you don't punch your sister out, you're

744
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: the a hole. You're not the ale. If you throw

745
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 2: your sister out thereby making your home a safe place

746
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 2: again for your fiance agreed, and don't out your sister

747
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: to your parents. I suggest that you punt out your sister,

748
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: and if your parents are squid, tell them that she

749
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: repeatedly overstep boundaries and you're done with her disrespect. In melodrama,

750
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: you don't have to give details. You really don't. It's

751
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: the same thing. I don't understand why he thinks adding

752
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: and she's gay.

753
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: Is gonna change like some kind of smoking gun.

754
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, and she's gay, what.

755
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's ridiculous.

756
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: Hi yeay yai. You don't have to give details. You're

757
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: not a child, and you can set boundaries with your

758
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 2: parents too. Yep, yep, yep, Opie says, in any other case,

759
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: not giving my family details would be fine. But she's

760
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: supposed to be moving out in a month anyways, and

761
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 2: by punting her out, I'd be depriving her of seeing

762
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,479
Speaker 2: her friends. H h. You're gonna want to know why,

763
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: and if I don't say anything, then I'd be hated

764
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: or they assume literally saying the same thing. I know

765
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: that sounds a holy but I'm at a point where

766
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: my sister is almost like a stranger to me. Okay,

767
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: this is all the same thing, OPI has said, the

768
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 2: same thing. Everyone's saying, you're the ale uh literally, Okay,

769
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: there's gotta be an update. Okay, here, here's the last one.

770
00:35:59,040 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: Thing.

771
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: I never said it's it's okay to out a stranger.

772
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: I was saying that I'd rather out someone who I

773
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: don't know than lose the people I love do know her.

774
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: What.

775
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: That doesn't make it okay, but it's sensible. You can

776
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: tell me all you want that you would never out

777
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 2: a stranger. But given the choice between outing someone who

778
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 2: you have no connection with or losing the people who

779
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 2: you see as family, what would you do? She's your sister?

780
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: What At this point, Mia is even less than a stranger.

781
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: That's not true, and you live with her? What are

782
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: you talking about based off of what she did? At

783
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: least in my eyes, she's lost the right to expect

784
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: any sort of leniency from me. However, I have indeed

785
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: retraced my steps withouting meat. Before any decisions are made,

786
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: I'll be talking to Annie because Annie is the victim. Agreed,

787
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: I agree, Annie is the victim.

788
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 1: Here, let's get into this update. This guy is pissing

789
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: me off, kissing me off. Hey, it's Sam, your ogi

790
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Speaker 1: host here. Bring it back to the stories. But here's

791
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792
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Speaker 2: I got a lot of You would not be the

793
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: ale for putting my sister out, but you would be

794
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: the ale for outing my sister.

795
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 1: Thank God, please get it through your thick skull.

796
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: I accepted it at that point and was going to

797
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: have a talk with my parents without outing my sister.

798
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: And but then I really wanted to being especially vague.

799
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: Then, to my surprise, there was a string of not

800
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: the ale for both, the reason being my sister's behavior

801
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: was a crime.

802
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: Dudeh what what?

803
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 2: What?

804
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: How did you go so wrong?

805
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: What?

806
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: Let's keep going, Let's keep going?

807
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 2: Come on, and needs to be addressed immediately. I decided

808
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 2: to just talk with Annie, who was ultimately the victim,

809
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: and asked her what she wanted to do, with the

810
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: exception that there was no debating my sister getting the

811
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: heck out. She said she wanted to tell my parents

812
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: what happened because they deserved to know. I couldn't agree more.

813
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: Not because, like some of you suggested, I wanted to

814
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: out my sister for revenge, but because I think part

815
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 2: of the blame is on them. Growing up, I was

816
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 2: always the smart kid, and she was always the social kid.

817
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: My parents put my education over her events. She couldn't

818
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: invite her friends because I was studying. If she was

819
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: invited to a friend's birthday and I had tutoring around

820
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: the same time, she would either have to walk to

821
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 2: her friend's house, be late, or not even go at all.

822
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: At some point they realized how this was affecting her

823
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: and just let her do whatever she wanted when I

824
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: needed it to be quiet so I could study. They

825
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 2: would just ship me off to my uncle's house. I

826
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 2: didn't mind. My parents would let her do what she wanted,

827
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: but they still gave me more attention. So yes, like

828
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: some of you suggested, my sister definitely needs therapy. So

829
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: we talked to my parents about after we punted her out.

830
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: We told them what Mia did, and I think my

831
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: dad believed us, but my mom didn't. This part is

832
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: now all just being relayed from my parents. They went

833
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: to my sister and to my surprise, she came clean

834
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: to everything. Oh, finally she admitted what she did was wrong,

835
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: but she couldn't stop herself, and she was so angry

836
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: at me for getting all the attention all the time

837
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: I had all the good things she didn't. Well. It

838
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: ended up in shouting matches and they punted her out.

839
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 2: They punted her out of the house, but they moved

840
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 2: her into my aunt's. They gave her an ultimatum either

841
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 2: go to therapy or receive no financial support from them,

842
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 2: with the condition that when if she doesn't start therapy

843
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: within the next five years, they will not be paying

844
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: for her sessions. I think they should pay either way,

845
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: but it's their money, so not my place to say anything.

846
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 2: I yea. Do you have any final thoughts?

847
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't have any final thoughts. This

848
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: guy just I mean, I guess she came out to

849
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: her parents in this way? Did she come out?

850
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: I guess he added her and then she agreed.

851
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: Did she did he out her?

852
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? He said this is he and Annie said this

853
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 2: is what's been going on, and we think that yeah,

854
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: they said that, they said they added her. I'm just

855
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: also going back because I wanted to remember exactly what

856
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: she did. So all we know is that she openly flirted.

857
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: We don't even know what that means.

858
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 2: I just want to say I want to remind everyone

859
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: what Annie did and or what a Miya did, and

860
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 2: I want to make it clear that she she still

861
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 2: made Annie very uncomfortable and that's not okay and should

862
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: be kicked out. But all we know what she did

863
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: for certain. What she did is walk out crying whenever

864
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: they's kissed, cry loudly in her room, and openly flirt

865
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: with Annie.

866
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: And that flirting looked like baking Annie a cake or

867
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Speaker 1: something or some food, make cooking for her.

868
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Speaker 2: That's what we know. Mind need to get rid of

869
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 2: John then I just want to like, absolutely not okay

870
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: that Mia made Annie uncomfortable? Absolutely not okay, kick her out? Yeah,

871
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: kick her out. But does that mean that Opee can

872
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 2: out her? Like yeah, anonymous as something else must have happened.

873
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 2: It must have, but I feel like Opee would have

874
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: mentioned it. You know, Obay flirted and made her breakfast,

875
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 2: that's all we know. Yeah, and he's liked, what what

876
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 2: what did she do? I mean like, I feel like

877
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 2: we need to know what she did. We need to

878
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 2: know what she did, because like right now, I'm looking

879
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: at all the information we have and I'm like, what, Yeah,

880
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: I kick her out? Why did you out her? I

881
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: think you just I think he just worked. I'm like

882
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: everyone in the comments said, yeah, oh, Mauritza says, don't

883
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: forget the booty shorts, and again, if she did do

884
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: something worse, let us know, let us know.

885
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: Seems like you're so excited to spill secrets, keep this

886
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: one too close to the chest.

887
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand exactly what. I just I personally

888
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: don't think there's really any reason to out. That's the

889
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: end of that story, folks, And the end of this

890
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: Oh there's more, dang it. I haven't heard from my sister.

891
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: She texted Annie to tell her she's sorry and asked

892
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: her to meet up, but she hasn't reached out to me.

893
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't have responded if she did, though, I'll

894
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: also be looking into getting therapy, even if I'm angry

895
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: at my sister and never want to see her again.

896
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: I also feel like I lost her. Yes, Mia was

897
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: out in the end, but I think that considering everything,

898
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: this is the best outcome for her too. Thank you

899
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: for all the responses.

900
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: I feel like Reddit's gonna crucify.

901
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 2: Op Relevant comments say I feel like you glossed over

902
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: you punting her out? How did that go down? I

903
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: think that her texting and asking her to meet up

904
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: and not including you is a major boundary violation, especially

905
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: for your fiance who was being spicily harassed by her,

906
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: and she hasn't learned her lesson not the able. Opie

907
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: says she didn't want to go. She yelled at this

908
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: was unfair and didn't deserve this. Then she turned to

909
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: Annie and asked her what she wanted to do. Annie

910
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 2: told her she wanted her to leave, and she left quietly.

911
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: Another person says, five years I think she needs therapy.

912
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 2: Now five years is so far away it doesn't even

913
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 2: mean anything. I'd give her a couple months. Therapists are doing.

914
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: Zoom calls, Yeah, get therapy.

915
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 2: My parents mean that she needs to reach out within

916
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 2: the next five years to get therapy, or they aren't

917
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: paying for sessions. Another person says, to be clear, your

918
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: parents want her to get therapy for her behavior, not

919
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: her identity, right, Opie says for her behavior. Another person says,

920
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: I'm curious and nosy. Why did your parents punt her out?

921
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: Was she refusing to get help or something? Seems like

922
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: a lot of it was going really positively and then

923
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: just fell apart. I'm worried that them evicting her as

924
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: well is then now to her more evidence of rejection

925
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: and being denied she needed help, but passing the buck

926
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: when she has literally said I feel like I always

927
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: came second, has been rejected by her crush an infatuation,

928
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: who again is with you? So another rejection even though

929
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: obviously your wife is your wife. But we're dealing with

930
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: a damaged person here being punted, outed and evicted again.

931
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 2: That is some serious emotional baggage right now. She's trying

932
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: to deal with Yes, this is pandemic times and pandemic

933
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: rules reign supreme, but boisting her to another relative seems

934
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: like it would do more harm than good. Also super

935
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 2: relevant that they were in the FID Yeah, because everyone

936
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: was super like crammed together.

937
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true, op.

938
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 2: He says, my parents punted her out because she pestered Annie.

939
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 2: I don't know why they moved her into my aunt's though,

940
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: I'm guessing because they want to keep tabs on her

941
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: so she gets therapy and doesn't do anything drastic. I

942
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: hope my sister gets help, but I'm gonna be honest.

943
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: I've decided to stop worrying about my sister. I hope

944
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: she gets therapy, but what she does or doesn't do

945
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: is no longer unger any of my concern I want

946
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 2: to focus on helping Annie and myself. Annie and I

947
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: have already blocked my sister and everything, and I've made

948
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: it clear to my parents that if they do anything

949
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 2: to reinstall contact between my sister and I, I won't

950
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: speak to them again.

951
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: And that, okay, is the end of that story. Okay,

952
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: I let us know what you think about OP. I'm

953
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Speaker 1: I'm sussed out by OP. Like to a large degree.

954
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: But uh, I think you should have just kicked his

955
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: sister out.

956
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and not done the whole outing. But hey, let

957
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: us know what you think. Put your answers to the comments.

958
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Speaker 1: This is not just our opinion. This is a conversation.

959
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: So yep, but that is where this story ends. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's let's do let's do one more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, three you one more.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's John here, og host of the show. We're

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Speaker 1: my partner. Okay, that's a little sister, all right, go

966
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Speaker 1: all right. My the partner refused a trip I paid

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Speaker 1: for because it made him feel small.

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Speaker 2: Oh little man, feel small.

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Speaker 1: In January, I, thirty six female, booked a small holiday

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Speaker 1: together with my partner forty one mail. Everything was under

971
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Speaker 1: my name and paid for everything. You'd pay me his half.

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Speaker 1: Three months later he told me he couldn't pay me

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Speaker 1: back anymore and asked me to cancel. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I would get ninety percent of my money back and

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Speaker 1: ten percent would not be refunded. I decided that I

979
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: would keep the booking and gift him his part because

980
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: we both needed to unwind a bit. He didn't like

981
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: it because it made him feel small. I can't take

982
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: a gift for my GOLFI because I feel like a

983
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: small real man.

984
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 2: I want to give you a gift. I wanted to

985
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: pay for it.

986
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: That's so lame. You know my girlfriend is taking me

987
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: to sandals Boom. I don't feel small, I feel pampered.

988
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: It was big.

989
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: I feel big. It feels big that I had to

990
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: care for him. He told me to just cancel it.

991
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: I told him that I didn't want to and that

992
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: it was a gift. He could stay at home, but

993
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: that I was going but he could come with me.

994
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: He told me he would come with me. Today is

995
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,479
Speaker 1: the day we left for a little holiday. He did come,

996
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: but is screaming to me that what I did was wrong,

997
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: that I made the choice for him to get you

998
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: a gift, but I really didn't. I made the choice

999
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: for me and invited him to come with me without costs.

1000
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: I really wanted a little holiday, but I regret that

1001
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: he's with me. He's extremely mad at me, is unkind,

1002
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: and only says that I manipulated him to feel small

1003
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: and well, I just wanted to relax. Am I the

1004
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: a hole for not canceling.

1005
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 2: You just want to go on him?

1006
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: Can I hear a little fragile masculinity?

1007
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: Masculinity he touched me, he'd break?

1008
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, this like this right here, This is fragile masculinity

1009
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: at its final.

1010
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: He's so fragile. If you blew on him, he'd fall apart.

1011
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: He's so fragile that if you gave him a birthday cake,

1012
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: he said, I can bake it myself. Why are you

1013
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: baking it for me? And then I can't? And then

1014
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: hent do anything, But.

1015
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna because it's not mailling.

1016
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: I could do it, I could, but I won't. You're

1017
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: not the a hole. That's ridiculous. You have a fragile,

1018
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: fragile man, not bring baby comments, not the a hole.

1019
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: Did he offer to cover the cancelation fees or were

1020
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: you supposed to eat that? But no, of course you're

1021
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: not the a hole. He didn't have to come. Here's

1022
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: the thing. You don't need a vacation together if he

1023
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: keeps bugging at you, just get your own room and

1024
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: do your own thing. Man, The dude sounds like an

1025
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: insecure jack wagon. A great op responds, he did offer

1026
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: the cancelation fees, but I just didn't want to cancel.

1027
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: I just don't understand why I have to cancel my

1028
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: plans because he changed his mind because he couldn't afford

1029
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: it anymore. He keeps telling me that I'm the a

1030
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: hole for not canceling, because that was the right thing

1031
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: to do. But I'm unable to see why she's paying.

1032
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: Why can I not enjoy a few days away after

1033
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: gifting him this? Why was canceling the only option for him?

1034
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: He only wants me to stay home with him. He

1035
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: wasn't all right with him staying home and not coming

1036
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: with me for free. And I can't understand why I

1037
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: should stay home. I wish I could understand his reason,

1038
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: but I can't. Maybe the reason he gave is not

1039
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: the actual reason. Maybe he can't afford it, but there's

1040
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: some other reason he doesn't want to go that he's

1041
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: not telling you either way. Still, it still feels like

1042
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: a either He's fragile, a fragile masculine man or he's

1043
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: hiding it thirty secret? What is his thirty secret comment

1044
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: to why did you force something that he had already

1045
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: told you he could no longer afford and did not

1046
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: want to accept being paid for? Don't really understand why

1047
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: you didn't just tell him to pay you back X

1048
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: amount a month until it was paid for.

1049
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1050
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: I could see. I feel like that's maybe I feel

1051
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: like that's a little bit of a different, different situation.

1052
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: I could see it's like like, hey, Sophia, let's go

1053
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: on a trip together. Yes, no, no, no, you can't

1054
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: afford it.

1055
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: No, I can't afford it.

1056
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Sofia, I just apprised you with the trip.

1057
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: That's what happened.

1058
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also he agreed to be clear, he agreed.

1059
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: And read initially but said the reason was he couldn't

1060
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: afford it.

1061
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then she was like, well I would love

1062
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: to take you. Yeah, let me pay for it. Oh.

1063
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: P I gave him the choice to come with me,

1064
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: but that he didn't have to. I didn't force him,

1065
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: but he didn't. Yeah, she didn't. She didn't. She just

1066
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: basically is like, I didn't want to cancel it.

1067
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, she wants to go that's where she wants to go.

1068
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: Oh you could not go? And yeah, and she's like

1069
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: comfortable just eating the cost.

1070
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

1071
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: I didn't force him, but he did say it would

1072
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: look bad that I would go on a little holiday

1073
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: without him.

1074
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 2: This is the thing. It's like, it's not that she's saying,

1075
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: oh uh, he has to come. She's saying, I'm going

1076
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: whether or not he's coming, and he's upset that I'm

1077
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 2: still going.

1078
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: My girlfriend is in Italy right now, and that's freaking sick.

1079
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Speaker 1: That's freak, that's freaking. She's so cool. She sends me

1080
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: a little pictures of her doing cool Italy stuff.

1081
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 2: I love that, and I give her a recommendation.

1082
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: And so he gave her a recommendation. That is sick

1083
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: as heck, not sick as heck if you're a little fragile,

1084
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 1: little baby boy, baby boy, he wanted me to stay home.

1085
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: Comment three, In what way are you happy with this

1086
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: person in your life? Like, seriously, I want to know,

1087
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: is he super fantastic in bed? Is he curing cancer?

1088
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm out of ideas after that. Not the a hole obviously,

1089
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: OPI says he was kind to me and loving. Of

1090
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: course we have arguments because we were both strong headed.

1091
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: But something changed a few months ago. Oh oh, oh, secret,

1092
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: there's a secret. There's a secret. He's actually not insecure.

1093
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: He just has a secret. He has a secret secret.

1094
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: We bought a house together. I'm regretting that right now.

1095
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: And well, maybe it's stress. But he's mad at everything

1096
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: and gas lights me that I make him feel like

1097
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: he can't do anything right, like still going on the

1098
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: holiday after he told me he couldn't afford it anymore.

1099
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: And we got an update. What is your guess of

1100
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: what's happening? Yeah, the secret cheating? There's a secret. Yeah,

1101
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: that's a classic one. Come up with something more Interesteah.

1102
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: His mother lives in his basement?

1103
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: All right, is either cheating or his mother lives in

1104
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: his basement? I think, and maybe and make some cakes.

1105
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 2: I come here, little baby boy, little can do your lunchry? Yes,

1106
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: nigcause mammy, thanks mama, mummy. Don't don't be noisy.

1107
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: It'll be noisy.

1108
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: My wife to be? Will hear my wife to be?

1109
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 2: A will to get up? Curious?

1110
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: It's upset. Well, update, I told him we needed a

1111
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: long walk and talk. I won't tell the whole conversation

1112
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: because it was about two hours. But basically it was this,

1113
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: because I have to help him so much, he feels

1114
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: like a failure. Well that's not my fault, of course,

1115
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: but I did tell him that he needed to do better. Yes,

1116
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: I earned slightly more, but it doesn't add up that

1117
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: I can save money, help him and pay my part

1118
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: of the bills and he can't. I did tell him

1119
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: that maybe he needed to quit smoking and drinking, because

1120
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: he does that a lot and couldn't tell me on

1121
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: how much he spends on those things. We live life

1122
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: in the Netherlands, so especially smoking is really expensive here.

1123
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, it made him feel that he can't do

1124
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: anything right. He felt that my invite to the holiday

1125
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 1: was a slap in the face because he again couldn't

1126
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: pay for something. I told him that it wasn't fair

1127
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 1: that I had to put my life on hold because

1128
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: it can't budget his money properly.

1129
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: That's the thing. It's like, Oh, he's not even saying

1130
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 2: like like making him feel bad that he can't pay

1131
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 2: for things, or expecting him to pay for things. She's

1132
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: just saying I'm gonna do stuff because I can afford it. Yeah,

1133
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: and you can't tell me. I can't do it.

1134
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna do it anyway. I don't think he's

1135
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: mad that I'm a woman and he's a man or something.

1136
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: It's more that he feels like a failure and needs

1137
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: to react this to others around him. It's sad, but

1138
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: not my fault. I told him that I wanted therapy.

1139
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: He told me once again that he couldn't afford it,

1140
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: so if I wanted it, that I needed to pay

1141
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, I don't know. I said that I

1142
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: wanted to enjoy my five day holiday and that he

1143
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: could leave if he was going to stay and be

1144
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: a butt. He told me he would man up. We

1145
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: will see. I did tell him that he will never

1146
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: control me, and he promised me that he will never

1147
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: try that. We have an update. He was spying on

1148
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: me while I was reading some of your answers on

1149
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: my phone. He got extremely mad that I shared private

1150
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: matters with strangers on the Internet and was lying. I

1151
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: said that I needed some insights on this from strangers.

1152
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: Apparently it's wrong to ask the internet and to expose

1153
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: a private matter. I don't know. It's not that someone

1154
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: knows what our real names are. I want to thank

1155
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: you all though, to take time to read my problem

1156
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 1: and trying to give me advice. We got another update

1157
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 1: question for you guys. Yeah, do you think it's wrong

1158
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: to expose private but anonymous details to the internet.

1159
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: I just so anonymous. I think it's okay with I mean,

1160
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 2: that's our whole job.

1161
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, and we would be out of a job.

1162
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: That way, have a job if it were no care.

1163
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: It's fine.

1164
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: You gotta sign on for two people that have no

1165
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: vested interest that.

1166
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: Well, it's okay. I keep sending in your stories.

1167
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: Up date three. It's four. I am here and I'm

1168
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: still up talking with him. We are going nowhere. It

1169
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: sounded for a little while like we had figured it out,

1170
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: but then it spiraled back down. I just blank out

1171
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: told him that I wanted therapy. He told me that

1172
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 1: he was okay with that if I deleted this post

1173
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: and only asked the therapist prohap, I said, no, I

1174
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: feel like that's a little strong headed. I think I

1175
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: would you could have. I think I think deleted it

1176
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: that I asked you for all all the insights. He

1177
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: told me that I just making him look bad on

1178
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: the internet with the lying. I asked him what difference

1179
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: was this with asking you and him calling slash chatting

1180
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: a friend. He said he just told one friend and

1181
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: that I exposed him in front of ten thousand people.

1182
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: I told him that you all don't know who I am,

1183
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: and that this friend does know who I am. Right now,

1184
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: he keeps telling me that I have to stop writing

1185
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: if I want to save this relationship.

1186
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: I think that's fair.

1187
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 1: I think that's about.

1188
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 2: I think that's fair.

1189
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: I think that's about he's setting a boundary. I think

1190
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: that's okay.

1191
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: I agree. I think for him to say, like, hey,

1192
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: please stop writing about this, I think that's very fair.

1193
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you keep writing about it, I think

1194
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: it's a breach of press.

1195
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: I agree.

1196
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 1: But I feel that this is very, very controlling.

1197
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1198
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: Maybe I just am not able to understand why I

1199
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: read it. Post is so much more wrong than telling

1200
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: a friend about a problem.

1201
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 2: But I think that you can have that boundary of

1202
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: saying like, hey, can you not spread this information while

1203
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: we're figuring it out with your friend?

1204
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you could do that too.

1205
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: I think you could do it too.

1206
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: Maybe this is my shortcoming. I asked him why my

1207
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: needs are worth less than his needs? But He just

1208
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: says that I'm manipulating in a liar, and I'm sick

1209
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: of it. He acts like everything is in my head

1210
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: or that I'm lying or trying to ruin his life.

1211
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: I know that my story here is one sided, but

1212
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: I can't tell on how he sees things because of

1213
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: the simple fact that I'm not him. Just like his

1214
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: story to that friend. I asked him to please just

1215
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: behave and let me enjoy the four days holiday I've

1216
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: left or to go home, but he told me that

1217
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: he also deserves this holiday, will pay me back everything

1218
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: that I could shut up with saying that I paid

1219
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 1: for the holiday and deserve some peace. I'm always thinking

1220
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: that I need to call the hotel security to just

1221
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: take him out of this room. I don't know if

1222
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: that deals necessary. This feels like guys need to break up.

1223
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: But if I do that, I know that this relationship

1224
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: is over.

1225
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yo, dude, when you start thinking about calling this

1226
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 2: hotel security on your partner, the relationship is over.

1227
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: What do you have that thought it's done?

1228
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: Also, he said, oh yeah, you shut up. You guys

1229
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 2: are over.

1230
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: You guys are over, over, over, over and out. Update

1231
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,479
Speaker 1: for he plays the victim now keeping his head low

1232
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: and doesn't really talk like he doesn't dare. I'm not

1233
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: a fool and know that he does this to show

1234
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: that he is just a victim and I'm the meanie.

1235
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to take advantage of this and going to

1236
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: do something fun for myself. Thank you for all the advice.

1237
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: Update five whoop. He said he was sorry, he's not

1238
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: and that he will go to therapy for himself and

1239
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: for relationship therapy what he.

1240
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 2: Could afford therapy this whole time because.

1241
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: He was lying. Maybe his friend called him out, or

1242
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: he just realized himself. Everyone is wrong sometimes. I'm also

1243
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 1: wrong on so many things in life, but everyone earns

1244
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: a chance to learn from mistakes and do better. I

1245
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: want to thank everyone again who gave me advice, both

1246
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 1: the people who agreed with me and the people who didn't.

1247
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 1: He gave me a lot of insight about my own behavior,

1248
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: about his, and to watch out for red flags. What

1249
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: our future beholds is still a mystery, but I'm glad

1250
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 1: that he is okay now to go to the therapist.

1251
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: We can now try to work out better versions of

1252
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: ourselves with the help of a therapist. Okay, I guess so.

1253
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, that was rank godos are not

1254
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 2: meant to you together.

1255
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, man. Y'all y'all are very strong headed people. Yeah,

1256
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: let us know in the comments if you think these

1257
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: two people should stay together or break up bikes. I

1258
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,959
Speaker 1: think that is where that story, folks, and this episode ends.

1259
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 1: Let us know what you think of the comments. If

1260
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: you love us, make sure to subscribe.

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Speaker 2: We love you and see on tomorrow