1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This is an iHeart podcast Guaranteed Human. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: Music Saved Me. There was a radio presenter in Australia 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: and I didn't know of him at the time, and 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 2: he stumbled upon my EP it is what it is, 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: and he messaged me on Twitter like out of the 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: blue one night, and it was hard for him to 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 2: get through some of the songs because it felt like 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: I wrote those songs at a time that he needed 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: to hear them. And he just thanked me so much 10 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: for writing the EP and that's like all a songwriter 11 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 2: can hope for is for listeners to connect to our music. 12 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm Lynn Hoffman and this is the Music Saved Me Podcast, 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: the show where we dig deep into the stories behind 14 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: the healing powers of music. On this episode, we're excited 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: to welcome Demi Michelle, an award winning pop and country 16 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: songwriter from Pittsburgh, PA. Demi's passion for songwriting and storytelling 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: has a deep connection to the heart and soul of 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: many in her community, and she is a true testament 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: to the healing power of music. Demi, welcome to the show. 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: How are you? 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: I am doing fantastic, Thank you and I have my 23 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: first question. I don't want to lay it on pretty heavy, 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: but we usually don't have a ton of time. So 25 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: my first question to you is tell us why you 26 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: want your voice to be heard and why music, in 27 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: your opinion, saves so many of us. 28 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, well, I think for me personally, music 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: has been my way of expressing myself. And from a 30 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: young age, I started as a classical pianist, and so 31 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 2: in that time I didn't have words. I only had 32 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: my music, and I would turn to my piano music 33 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: all the time, to the point where like I would 34 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: play my pieces when I was practicing and we heard 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: saying for recitals, but also just times when I had 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: to sit down and just get my emotions out and 37 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: just improvise. And I felt like music, through my piano 38 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: music was away for me to express myself and process 39 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: my emotions. And now as a songwriter, it's even more 40 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: than that because I'm able to use my voice and 41 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: speak through my lyrics and combine all that with the 42 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: music and the storytelling that I love so much from music. 43 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: And I think music has the ability to save so 44 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: many because it is a universal language. And I know 45 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: for me personally, there have been so many times in 46 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: my life where I was just going about my day 47 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: and I needed a song, and I would just stumble 48 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: upon the song that I needed so desperately at that time, 49 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: and it just gave me peace, and it gave me 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: the understanding that I wasn't alone and that others were 51 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: experiencing the same things as me. And so I feel 52 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: like many of us, if not all of us, have 53 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: experienced that at one point or another. 54 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: Can you give me an idea for an example, what 55 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: could you have been going through in your day exactly 56 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: or maybe not exactly but similar, and what song did 57 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: you helped you get through that moment? 58 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a perfect example for this. So I'm 59 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: not sure if you know the song Homecoming Queen by Kocibalerini. 60 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: Oh yes, but it's one of my favorite country songs. 61 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: I actually recorded my rendition because it's so special to 62 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: me and at that time. But the song is basically 63 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 2: about how on the outside you can look all put 64 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: together like a homecoming queen, Like she's like all done up, 65 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: she's like wearing her heels and like everybody thinks she's 66 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: living the life right, she had nothing going on. But 67 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: what people don't know what's what's going on behind closed doors? 68 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: When the curtain comes down, you know she's dealing with 69 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: stuff too. And I always tried so hard throughout my 70 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: whole life to not let anyone know that I was 71 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: going through difficult things because I don't want to be 72 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: a burden on others. I've always been someone to just 73 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: deal with things on my own, and so on the outside, 74 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: a lot of people could look at me and go, oh, 75 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: she's like she had the best life, like she had 76 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: nothing going on that's challenging. But that wasn't the truth. 77 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: And when I heard that song, I cried the first 78 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: time I heard it because I was like, Oh my goodness, Like, 79 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: I literally feel like Kelsey wrote this song for me, 80 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: and I've had such a strong attachment to that song. 81 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: I ended up recording my own version because that song 82 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: definitely was there for me at the time I needed it. Well. 83 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: With that said, do you believe that music has therapeutic 84 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: healing powers? 85 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely for sure. 86 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: Now, can you talk a little bit about some of 87 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: your specific songs that you feel have touched others in 88 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: that similar healing way? 89 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Wow, I feel like it's so hard 90 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: to pick one just because I feel like we all 91 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 2: relate to music in different ways, and a song that 92 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: I connect to someone else may not and the other 93 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: way around. So I'm not sure if there's like a 94 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: single song, I would say a lot of people like 95 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: automatically go to that one because it's such an individualistic experience. 96 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: And I think that's what's so beautiful about music is 97 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: a songwriter could write a song, put it out there, 98 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: and a thousand people can hear it, and I'll have 99 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: different connections to that song based on their own personal experience. 100 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: So I think it is very rooted in personal experience. 101 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: So I'm not sure if like any specific ones are 102 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: coming to mind at the moment. 103 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: Well, if you have you been there and witnessed people 104 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: hearing your music for the first time who may not 105 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: be necessarily going through a great time in their life 106 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: and seeing that effect that your song had on them, Yeah, no, 107 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: for sure. 108 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: And even too, like back when I was doing piano, 109 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: I've had multiple people like after I did a recital, 110 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 2: multiple people have come up to me and told me 111 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: that they were crying as I was playing. And when 112 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: I was so young, and I started at age ten, 113 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: so when I was that young, I didn't fully understand 114 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: because I'm like, I'm just plain notes, like how is 115 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: that making you cry? But then like as I got older, 116 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: I really recognized that like music has the ability to 117 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 2: really resonate, and for my songwriting specifically, there is one 118 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: song that I wrote that people have definitely connected to, 119 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: which is indio or one is called kind Heart, and 120 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: it was the lead single off my new album Hear 121 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: Me Out that's coming out on Octuaber twenty third, August 122 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: twenty third, sorry, August twenty third, And that song I 123 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: basically wrote it was a very vulnerable period of my 124 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: life where I felt like I was I always see 125 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: myself as a kind person. I like to give, I 126 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: don't expect anything back, and I realized that being kind 127 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: all the time does have challenge. It's if you keep 128 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: giving and giving and no one's reciprocating, or if people 129 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: are taking advantage of your kindness, Like that's not a 130 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: fun thing to experience. And people always say that kindness 131 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: doesn't cost anything and being nice goes a long way, 132 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: but that's very true. But at the same time, I 133 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: feel like it's hard having a kind heart, which is 134 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 2: what the song is about. And when I started to 135 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: perform that one, and when I released it, I got 136 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: so many messages from people saying like, oh my gosh, 137 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: that song like it retonates so much because when we're kind, 138 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: we don't really show on the outside the challenges that 139 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: we're facing inside because we just want to be that 140 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 2: kind person. So that's an example of one of mine. 141 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: Wow, you talk like you're writing a song as you speak. 142 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: It's just wonderful. 143 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: What does it mean to you personally? I know it 144 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: must seem weird because it's like an out of body 145 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: thing when someone comes up to you and like, oh 146 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: my god, But what really do you feel when someone 147 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: tells you how much your music means to them and 148 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,239 Speaker 1: how it got them through a tough time. 149 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: It's just a real feeling, And I think that's the 150 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: greatest reward that a songwriter could ever have. Yes, it's 151 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: fun to get award nominations and to win awards and 152 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: to play shows and to do interviews like it's all 153 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: very fun. But I started writing music because I needed 154 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: to process my missions and I needed to tell my story, 155 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: and it's very difficult for me to just talk to 156 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: someone about what I'm going through. Songwriting has always been 157 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: my way of speaking in ways that I can't just 158 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: through words, and so that's why I wrote my music. 159 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: And when I would get messages and hear from people 160 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: that they connected to my music and meant something to them, 161 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: or it felt they felt seeing through listening to my music, 162 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: it's just so wild to me because nowadays, I mean, 163 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: you can upload a song on Spotify and it's available worldwide, 164 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: and I've heard comments from people from all over the 165 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: world world. One coming to mind is there was a 166 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: radio presenter in Australia and I didn't know of him 167 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: at the time, and he stumbled upon my EP it 168 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: is what it is, and he messaged me on Twitter 169 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: like out of the blue one night and basically said, 170 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: like this very very long, long message about it. He 171 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: came across my EP and it was hard for him 172 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: to get through some of the songs because it felt 173 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: like I wrote those songs at a time that he 174 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: needed to hear them, and he just thanked me so 175 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: much for writing the EP. And I was just staring 176 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: at my phone like I cannotefullieve I just got this message, 177 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: because it's just so surreal, and that's like all a 178 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: songwriter can hope for. Is for listeners to connect to 179 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: our music. That's so true. 180 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: It's kind of like your superhero and that it's your superpower. 181 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: Right exactly, Yeah, for sure. All right. 182 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: I have one one final question for you. 183 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: It's a little bit dark. 184 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: Well it depends on how you interpret it, but what 185 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: do you what do you think that the world would 186 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: be today if there was no music? 187 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: Goodness, I don't even want to think about that. That'd 188 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: be like a dystopia, like, oh my goodness. I truly 189 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: have no idea. It would be a dark world. I 190 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: don't know. I just imagine, like there's music all around, 191 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: Like you're driving to the car, you have music on. 192 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 2: You walk into a shop to go like dress shopping, 193 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: and there's music playing. Like I can't imagine a life 194 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: without music. And I think, just reflecting on that, I 195 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: think just for everyone all around the world, I think 196 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: that we can appreciate music more. I know sometimes it 197 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: can be seen as this thing in the background, and 198 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: that's very true many instances, but if you stop and 199 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 2: think about it, the world would be so silent without music, 200 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 2: and songs would not be able to heal songwriters and 201 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 2: listeners if we didn't have music, and so I think 202 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: that it's such a calming part of life that sometimes 203 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: it can be like lost over or just looked upon it. Oh, 204 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: that's just part of life. But if you really think 205 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: about it, it's something very special and very meaningful to 206 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: so many, and so I truly can't imagine a world 207 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: without music. 208 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: Doctor Demi Michelle, that's what your new nickname described in 209 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: her bio as heartfelt, charismatic, and authentic. And I get 210 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: to tell you that really couldn't be more true. Talking 211 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: with you has been. 212 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, total delight. 213 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: Your new album comes out August twenty fourth, just let 214 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: everybody know, and it's called. 215 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 2: Hear Me Out. Yeah, so it's coming Yeah, So Hear 216 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: Me Out is an ash track album August twenty third. 217 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: It's actually coming out the weekend. I'm traveling to Atlanta 218 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: for the International Singer Songwriters Association Awards. I have five 219 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 2: nominations for that. I'm also performing at the after party, 220 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: so it's could be a very fun weekend. This album 221 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: has been in the making for a while, and I 222 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: feel like I finally discovered who I want to be 223 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: as a songwriter and what I want to say, and 224 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: I'm using my voice in this album like never before, 225 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: which is why it's called hear Me Out, and so 226 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: I hope everyone loves that one is out. 227 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much, Demi for coming on music 228 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: Save Me and sharing your stories and continue to spread 229 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: joy through your words and your music, and best of 230 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: luck with that party and your nominations and the album 231 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: release and hopefully you'll come back and talk to us 232 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: when you're like so huge that we won't even know 233 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: how to get a hold of you. 234 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 2: And well, thank you so much. It's been an honor 235 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: of being here. 236 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: This is an iHeart podcast guaranteed Human