WEBVTT - What is Internet2?

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff from how Stuff Looks dot Coming hither everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech Stuff. My name is Chris Poulette.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an editor here at how Stuff works dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>and as usual, I have sitting next to me senior

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<v Speaker 1>writer Jonathan Strickland. Hid ho, Okay, that's a new one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to bust on a new one once in

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<v Speaker 1>a while to keep you on your toes. All right, then,

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<v Speaker 1>uh so let's see. Um. Yeah, I got some special

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<v Speaker 1>to start this one off. You know what's coming. We

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<v Speaker 1>all know what's coming. Listen. It's listener mail, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>listener man, you got it. We're happy now, Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>oh all right, I'm just stunned. Yeah, I'm sure our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners are too. Okay. This one comes from Scotty. Scotty

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<v Speaker 1>says I would like to know more about the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>to project. There's a website, but not that much to tail.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you Scotty for that listener me, I

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate it. That was so we thought we'd talked

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<v Speaker 1>about internet too. Oh right, do you want to jump. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe, uh, I shouldn't have written it down

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<v Speaker 1>as Internet t o O. So this this mean I

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<v Speaker 1>need to start. Yeah, it's funny that you brought that up, Scotty,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is one of these things that you know

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<v Speaker 1>people here about from time to time, but nobody ever

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<v Speaker 1>really talks about. It was supposed to be this big

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<v Speaker 1>thing back in the in the mid nineties, because everybody

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about the imminent collapse of the Internet and

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<v Speaker 1>how it's all going to blow up, and how the

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<v Speaker 1>educational users of the Internet, we're all gonna go off

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<v Speaker 1>and start their own thing called Internet Too and you

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<v Speaker 1>can keep this Internet. We're gonna have our own. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking my ball and going home. So yeah, it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>exactly work out that way, but there is still an

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<v Speaker 1>Internet Too. Yeah. So there are a lot of miscau

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<v Speaker 1>receptions about it, mainly because, again, let's Chris pointed out,

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<v Speaker 1>not very many people chat about it that much. So

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<v Speaker 1>Internet Too it's it's it's two different things. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're thinking like there's a super secret Internet that

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<v Speaker 1>exists below our current Internet, that's not what Internet Too is. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's something else. Entirely we can't talk about it. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't that's the dark net. We can't go into that.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, the Internet too, that's it's really a consortium. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a group of universities, research institutes, corporations that have

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<v Speaker 1>got had They've come together to create an environment wherein uh,

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<v Speaker 1>these these different organizations can utilize a network, a very

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<v Speaker 1>high speed network for purposes of research and sharing knowledge,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. So sort of the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>that the original and you know what, the original intent

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<v Speaker 1>of the Internet was, go way back, and there there

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<v Speaker 1>is it is kind of from what I could tell

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<v Speaker 1>in my research, Um, there is kind of a second

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<v Speaker 1>Internet along the lines of the regular Internet that they use.

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<v Speaker 1>They all have high speed fiber optic connections. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a separate internet. Um, so they are. They are dedicated,

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<v Speaker 1>it's dedicated hardware what you're talking about. Yeah, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is part of the Internet as a whole. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>that they are the only ones who have access to that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they were talking about very special routers. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>special a special backbone, a fiber backbone for this this

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<v Speaker 1>Internet that stretches thirteen thousand five miles if I remember correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>from my little sheet of facts, and um the kilometer

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<v Speaker 1>conversion not because I did it just before we came

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<v Speaker 1>in here. So so I'm sorry to all of our

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<v Speaker 1>friends in other nations, but we're talking about United States

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<v Speaker 1>centric thing anyways. So Internet to the the idea here

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<v Speaker 1>is that we they these research organizations. Let's let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick step back into the way back machine and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the origins of the Internet and UH and

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<v Speaker 1>networks in general. If you go all the way back

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<v Speaker 1>to our panet, you're talking about several research institutions uh

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<v Speaker 1>networking together and sending information from one massive computer to another.

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<v Speaker 1>And the one of the ultimate goals here was being

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<v Speaker 1>able to share knowledge at really really rapid speeds. And

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<v Speaker 1>uh so the Internet for a long time, that's really

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<v Speaker 1>what was all about. It was mostly schools, universities, research

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<v Speaker 1>organizations that was that used these these lines in order

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<v Speaker 1>to share information and open up databases so that places

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<v Speaker 1>that had a really rich amount of information on a

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<v Speaker 1>specific subject could share it with everybody instead of it

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<v Speaker 1>just being centralized in one location. Yep. As a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, the first time I used the Internet, which

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<v Speaker 1>was nineteen and a half years ago. Now, um, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that that's you know, nobody had heard of the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean people had heard of the Internet, but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you like, if you went up to somebody on the

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<v Speaker 1>street and said, hey, you know, what kind of Internet

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<v Speaker 1>connection you have at home, they wouldn't have because they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have really known about it and what it was

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<v Speaker 1>and what it was supposed to be for. But everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, the college where I went, would have

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<v Speaker 1>email connections and uh you know, could use chat and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, basic basic functions protocols in two colors, green

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<v Speaker 1>and black. I have all sorts of colors here. Uh So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the that was the the original kind of purpose for

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet. And then of course the Internet opened up

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody, and then came the World Wide Web eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>which again originated as sort of a project on this

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<v Speaker 1>this college university environment. But once the Web opened up

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody and the Internet really opened up to everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly you've got this this great network. But it's being

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<v Speaker 1>used for lots of different things, not just research and

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<v Speaker 1>and sending information or or calculating law numbers. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to do that kind of stuff, if you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do the massive amounts of research or sending

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<v Speaker 1>lots of information between one major group and another. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it meant competing for bandwidth with all these other applications

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody else was using. So suddenly this incredibly useful

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<v Speaker 1>research tool and academic tool became less useful. Uh not

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<v Speaker 1>that it completely was, you know, useless. It's still how

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<v Speaker 1>to use. It just wasn't nearly as fast as it

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<v Speaker 1>had been because now everybody was on it. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there's a lot of commercial traffic now, So all

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<v Speaker 1>those other packets were going back to the whole Information

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<v Speaker 1>super Highway name that we used to give the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many of our listeners actually remember that,

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<v Speaker 1>um I do, but the Information super Highway. Think of

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<v Speaker 1>it like that. Like originally the super highway was allowed

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<v Speaker 1>only allowed traffic from ten percent of the population on

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<v Speaker 1>that highway, and it was lanes wide, exact, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>one in the way, you can go as fast as

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<v Speaker 1>you want, there's nothing to worry about. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>highway opens up for everyone something You've got traffic jams everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>That's essentially what we're talking about here, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>why everybody was talking about this in the mid nineties

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<v Speaker 1>about how the Internet was going to implode under the

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<v Speaker 1>weight of all the traffic. Well, it's one of those things. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the the information super Highway at that point

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe four lanes wide. But that's the thing, you know, people,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really see this, but as the Internet grows

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<v Speaker 1>in traffic, they're also adding on more lanes of super highway.

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<v Speaker 1>UM so, I mean it's it's really grown to handle

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<v Speaker 1>more traffic as time has worn on. It's just that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's infinitely more traffic going on. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>like in the real physical world. Yeah, exactly. So so

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<v Speaker 1>what's the solution. Well, the solution is to build a

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<v Speaker 1>different set of roads for just the universities. UM. Back

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<v Speaker 1>in October one in Chicago, a group of they for

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<v Speaker 1>university they had salmon for lunch. Thirty four universities. UH

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<v Speaker 1>representatives from thirty four universities met in a Chicago hotel

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<v Speaker 1>and they committed to this idea of forming an organization

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<v Speaker 1>at that time called Internet Too. And the organization would

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<v Speaker 1>also be dedicated in to finding ways of dedicating specific

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<v Speaker 1>resources to the academic research world and uh academic and research,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, just academic research and UH so that

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of set the ball in motion. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>until we started actually seeing corporations kind of join into

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<v Speaker 1>on us and uh and provide the hardware that was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be necessary. You know, you had to have grant

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<v Speaker 1>money come in to fund it. And you might say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what how does this benefit the rest of us? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not, for instance, I haven't been in college in

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, So how do I benefit from this

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<v Speaker 1>Internet Too thing? While they're a lot of different ways

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<v Speaker 1>we benefit, one very simple one is that Internet Too.

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<v Speaker 1>You can think of it as the way the way

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<v Speaker 1>Internet to his website describes it. You can think of

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<v Speaker 1>their network as being four to five years ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>our current technology that we use on the Internet right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, in a on to our sister podcast, High

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<v Speaker 1>Speed Stuff, I think of its sort of as a

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<v Speaker 1>test track for the Internet. So yeah, you can think

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<v Speaker 1>of it like, well, so their technology is why why

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<v Speaker 1>don't we have that technology in a more widespread, universal

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<v Speaker 1>kind of of of approach. Well, the reason is that

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<v Speaker 1>this Internet Too is being used as a as a

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<v Speaker 1>test track. You can't be sure that everything is going

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<v Speaker 1>to work. In fact, most stuff isn't going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time out, you're gonna have to tweak it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna have to adjust it, and I'll and

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<v Speaker 1>that's eventually the the successes are going to trickle down

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<v Speaker 1>into everything that we use. It's just gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>few years. But the the fact that this exists allows

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<v Speaker 1>researchers to create new applications, new uh coding. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's all sorts of things that they can do you

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<v Speaker 1>over this network that they couldn't do over the regular Internet. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's you know, now that the Internet is such

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of all of our lives. Um, if

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<v Speaker 1>they tried to, you know, throw the switch and convert

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<v Speaker 1>everybody over to a new technology overnight, it's bound to

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<v Speaker 1>take out a large section of the Internet worldwide. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's you know, that's the reason for needing to keep

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<v Speaker 1>that in a separate test environment. But there are already

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<v Speaker 1>some things that that we're seeing, you know, that have

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<v Speaker 1>been developed from Internet to technology. I mean, they were

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<v Speaker 1>pioneers in i p v six technology, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>newer version of the Internet Protocol address UM. Basically, to

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<v Speaker 1>accommodate the number of people on the Internet, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to have you know, everybody's got an address where your

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<v Speaker 1>information is sent, and uh, you know, there are so

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<v Speaker 1>many people and only so many I P numbers that

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<v Speaker 1>they can use, so they basically tacked on a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of octets on the uh the IP address. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I'm oversimplifying here, but this is one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that they tried out on Internet to was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>will I PV six work? And uh, you know, now

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<v Speaker 1>gradually it's sort of making us way over into the

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<v Speaker 1>real world. Yeah, and you're you know, we we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the the speed of this network. You might be

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<v Speaker 1>wondering how fast is it. Well, the backbone can support

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<v Speaker 1>speeds of up to a hundred gigabits per second. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a little fast. That's amazingly lightning fast. If for a comparison,

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<v Speaker 1>I looked up Verizon's FiOS service Yes, Yes, which comes

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<v Speaker 1>in several different tiers. The first one, I believe is

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen megabits per second. That's megabits as opposed to gigabits.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're talking about orders of magnitude here. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fastest that I saw, which may not be

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<v Speaker 1>Verizon's fastest because I just did this very quickly, was

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<v Speaker 1>fifty combits per second, which is still tiny. Now. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the hundred gigabits per second we're talking about, that's the backbone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just the information being able to travel across the

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<v Speaker 1>backbone of this network. The interfaces that people are actually

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<v Speaker 1>using do not go that fast, um, although they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to support interfaces that would support go up to around

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<v Speaker 1>forty gigabits per second right now, as I recall UM,

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<v Speaker 1>which is again lightning fast. And you may say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why do they need speeds that high, Well, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the applications are using involve enormous numbers and calculations. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>the Large Hadron Collider when it finally goes online, assuming

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<v Speaker 1>it ever does, uh, that data is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>shared with scientists from around the world. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just going to be the people who are at the

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<v Speaker 1>CERN facility. They're gonna be other laboratories. They're going to

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<v Speaker 1>use this information to really take a look at what

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<v Speaker 1>makes our universe tick. So we're talking about big, big

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<v Speaker 1>questions here, which coincidentally require big big numbers when you're

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<v Speaker 1>when you're crunching the data, and so all of the

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<v Speaker 1>information that's coming out is going to take up huge

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<v Speaker 1>amounts of bandwidth and so without a dedicated network, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it would take ages for that information to get to

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<v Speaker 1>where it's going. Another thing they work on on Internet

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<v Speaker 1>too is middleware. They have a middleware initiative and that

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<v Speaker 1>Uh it's not very sexy, I gotta admit. UM basically

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a type of software, but it negotiates connections.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it involves UM things like authentication, identification, security,

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<v Speaker 1>UM directories. It's the kind of thing that will help you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get one packet to the other end of

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<v Speaker 1>the network and back, uh, you know, more smoothly and

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<v Speaker 1>and securely than it would necessarily using an UM less

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<v Speaker 1>adept technology. And eventually we can hope to see the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of network capability extend to our Internet. Again, when

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about why is in our Internet as fast

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<v Speaker 1>as there's there, don't not to make an US versus

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<v Speaker 1>them sort of thing. But for Internet to you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to remember this is going to some very specific schools

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<v Speaker 1>and some resource organizations, and that's about it. So the

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<v Speaker 1>network does not have to be as broad as it

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<v Speaker 1>would have to be for consumers. It doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>stretch into various neighborhoods it's going to very specific locations,

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<v Speaker 1>so when you're laying the fiber, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>lay it everywhere like you would with a more widespread approach.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, to to try and develop that for

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<v Speaker 1>an entire nation would be very expensive. And and that's

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<v Speaker 1>another thing is that there's a lot of money that's

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<v Speaker 1>going into this project, and it's being raised by various foundations, organizations, donations,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the companies are donating time and uh um

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<v Speaker 1>resources to this, so it's not like a more widespread

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<v Speaker 1>nationwide fiber network is going to just pop up out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere. And the the Internet Too, is a nonprofit

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<v Speaker 1>organization too, so it's uh you know, completely dedicated to

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<v Speaker 1>research and Internet research. So now grant this hasn't stopped

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<v Speaker 1>people from trying to use it to do naughty things.

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<v Speaker 1>I read a report about students at various universities who

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<v Speaker 1>had created a site on Internet too that or they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't create it, they were they were using a site

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<v Speaker 1>that was a file sharing site meant to share research files,

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing, to distribute videos and music and

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<v Speaker 1>things of that nature. So again, you know, once again,

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<v Speaker 1>you you've got the fast network access. There's someone's going

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<v Speaker 1>to use it to download a movie. And uh, of

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<v Speaker 1>course at that speed you can get a high definition

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<v Speaker 1>film and a couple of minutes. It's not the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing as if you were dialing up over Kazaar or something.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, the I'll imagine if it takes you a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of hours to download a film, whether you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>so legitimately or otherwise, we'll only take you a minute

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<v Speaker 1>or two maybe using this connection. I can see why

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<v Speaker 1>some people were tempted to do that, although you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's not what it was intended for. No, not at all,

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