1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: But D'andela yee. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: I'm here on a Wealth Wednesday with my girls, Stacy Tuesday. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 3: Happy Wealth Wednesdays, everybody, and we are going big. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 4: It's Wealth Wednesdays. We are going so big. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 3: We are going bigger than we've gone in a long time. 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 3: And we have mister Derek. 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 4: Hayes for you. 8 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: And Derek is the founder and CEO of Big Daves. 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 4: And we're gonna talk about a. 10 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: Lot of cheese steaks. Y'all know, y'all know what I'm 11 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: talking about. 12 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 4: Cheese stays. 13 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 3: This is not your ordinary cheesecake. This sandwich was ranked 14 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: top ten sandwiches in the world by World Food Champions. 15 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: And Derek's been honored in Forbes twenty twenty one Next 16 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: one thousand to Watch. You've done a lot since then. 17 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: You've been an naacp Immage Awards honoree. You're gonna learn 18 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: all about businesses, franchising. I know you have ten franchise 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 3: locations in Central Florida, now five in South Carolina. Really 20 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: one of the fastest restaurants change in the country. And 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: you always talk about you got there because it's about purpose. Yeah, 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: tell us about your purpose and about Big Dave's and 23 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 3: that connection. 24 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I just want to tell y'all 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 5: thank you for having me fresh from Martha's vinyan. So 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 5: I got out his vacation mode. 27 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're not no, no, no vie. Let 28 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: me tell you my god daughter. She goes to Spelman, 29 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: but before she goes back to school, she is stopping 30 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: in Martha's vinyard. I just want to live her life 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: for a couple of days because she's having a time 32 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: it spoils you. 33 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 5: I mean, you see, you know, a bunch of people 34 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 5: that look like you, people that don't look like you, 35 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 5: are coming together, you know, celebrating one thing, you know, 36 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 5: having a good time of vacation. There was a lot 37 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 5: of panels, a lot of information picked up. So I 38 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 5: challenge anybody you know who hasn't ever been to Martha's 39 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 5: Vineyard to get there. 40 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 4: It's amazing. 41 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,919 Speaker 5: What was and what was your question? 42 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: Your why? 43 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 5: Look? I still obviously my purpose was my father. I 44 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 5: mean that was legitimately the reason why I started the business. 45 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 5: I mean I watched my dad take his last breath 46 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 5: in front of me. But before he died, you know, 47 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 5: I promised him I was going to do the right thing. 48 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 5: I was gonna break my generational curses, and I was 49 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 5: gonna stay focused. Now, needless to say, ten years of 50 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 5: you know, blood, sweat, and terrors building his business a 51 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 5: little over ten years now. It's been a roller coaster ride. 52 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 5: It hasn't been easy, but I know that my purpose 53 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 5: was always stronger than anything of defeat. And I feel 54 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 5: like when your purpose is stronger than defeat, you will 55 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 5: never let it defeat you. So even in my hardest moments, 56 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 5: I always seen it end of the road. I always 57 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 5: knew that eventually people will start paying attention. Eventually people 58 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 5: will see what I'm doing. Eventually people will see what 59 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 5: I mean to the community, and not only just that, 60 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 5: you know, I represent everything when they say a kid 61 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 5: can do. I come out of a very dangerous place 62 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 5: in West Philly, very low income community, you know, when 63 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 5: they say the whole gentrification thing, I was there way 64 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 5: before that. So I've seen, you know, a lot of 65 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 5: things happen in my life, and now I'm starting to 66 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 5: see communities, you know, change today. And I'm able to, 67 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 5: you know, spread the word. And I'm challenging myself to 68 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 5: keep on going to pushing kids forward because I know 69 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 5: it's not the lack of like you know, household is 70 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 5: really just the resources. You know, a lot of them 71 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 5: are trapped in a box. You know. We said that 72 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 5: they're bad kids. We said that a lot of things. 73 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 5: But y'all looking at that. I got forty tattoos on 74 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 5: my body. I come from the same environment they doing now. 75 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 5: Rink six in the Nation and fast casual, the first 76 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 5: African American to ever do it. 77 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's so true what you say about kids too, 78 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: because a lot of times it's just where their energy 79 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: is directed to it. Yeah, those kids that y'all say 80 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: are the bad kids are the ones that actually can 81 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: be the most intelligent, the smartest. Is just who's around them, 82 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: what they're exposed to. One thing could like change your 83 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: trajectory for you. Would you say that one thing was 84 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: your father when he passed, or was it something a 85 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: spark in you before that that you knew that at 86 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: some point you would be an entrepreneur. 87 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 5: I think it was. It was instilled in me my 88 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 5: whole life, because I've seen men work money through Friday 89 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 5: to take care of families. But my father was a 90 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 5: strong reason because it's like I honored this man just 91 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 5: as much as I honored God. You know, it's my 92 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 5: best friend. You know. It was a person I would 93 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 5: run to any situation I was in, anybody I would 94 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 5: ask for advice. So when he wasn't there anymore, I 95 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 5: wanted to make his name live on. So I always 96 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 5: told myself that, you know those blue signs on those exes, 97 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 5: when you see the McDonald's and all of them, you're 98 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 5: gonna see the Big Dave cheese steaks, because I wanted 99 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 5: my dad to live on in every city and state 100 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 5: around America. And right now I'm going to traject you 101 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 5: to do that. And it's really you know, I you know, 102 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 5: I tell people, you know, I always say online, I'm 103 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 5: building a billion dollar company. It's not for the financial gain. 104 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 5: I know of a kid from West Philly out to 105 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 5: ghetto build a billion dollar company. I'm about to motivate 106 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 5: kids globally, not just nationally, globally, because they're going to say, wait, 107 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 5: he only got a high school diplomba. Wait, he ain't 108 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 5: go to college. Wait how did he do this with 109 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 5: no resources? You know, So all of those things is 110 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 5: just going to motivate them to do the same thing. 111 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 5: And it could take the footsteps that I've taken. I 112 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 5: wouldn't want them to take allway the same road that 113 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 5: I've taken, because I felt like some of these steps 114 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 5: I've taken, you know, there was big shoes to fill. 115 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 5: I mean, I just never took no for an answer, 116 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 5: And honestly, you really just got to get out your 117 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 5: own way and have thick skin because when you walk 118 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 5: in certain rooms, the judgmental content is already at the 119 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 5: front door. 120 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 4: How did you do this. 121 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 3: With such limited resources? 122 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 5: I'm a hustler, That's just really what it is. I mean, 123 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 5: I come from a place where you know, anybody know Philly. 124 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 5: Philly people are hustlers, We go getters, we grind our 125 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,559 Speaker 5: demeanors from. But also I believe in myself. I believe 126 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 5: in myself when anybody can believe in me. You know 127 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 5: a lot of people wait for people to believe in them, 128 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 5: and they get that spark and say I feel good 129 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 5: such and such such just about me. No, I don't 130 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 5: care if nobody clasp for me. Nobody could word in 131 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 5: my soil, my battery charge, because I know me. When 132 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 5: you know you, you will be okay. I tell anybody 133 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 5: to challenge theyself, to define themselves before they define somebody else. 134 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: You know, I'm from New York, so we're used to 135 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: driving it. 136 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: I would literally to Philly to get cheese steaks, right, 137 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: there's a couple of times I've done that. But you 138 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: opened your first location in Atlanta. Yes, And I don't 139 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: know how popular cheese steaks were in Atlanta when you 140 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: went there and did that. But what is that process 141 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: like of bringing something that's unfamiliar to a place where 142 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: you're not from there, But now you have to get 143 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: people used to wanting to get something. And it was 144 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: in a gas station, right, was the first place that 145 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: you opened up an actual physical location. So tell me 146 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: how you managed to even market yourself and overcome that. 147 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 5: Well, For one, I actually started in a gas station 148 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 5: outside of the city, which was like thirty five minutes 149 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 5: from Atlanta. So that was the one challenge I had 150 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 5: against me. But nobody wanted to lease me in space, 151 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 5: so I had to take what God gave me. I'm like, look, 152 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 5: I got the product, I know, I got the hustle. 153 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 5: Eventually they going to come, but it took me a 154 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 5: year and a half to start getting traffic, any traffic. 155 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 5: And that was a hard thing for me. You know, 156 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 5: I had spent many days in my car plan and 157 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 5: praying to God because I took my last money and 158 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 5: put into this business. But I always like the shot 159 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 5: Eve out Eve. She was shooting barbershop and she came 160 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,239 Speaker 5: a bit of cheese steak, and that was like literally 161 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 5: the breaking point of my career because when she ate 162 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 5: that cheese steak, she put it on her social media 163 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 5: platforms and I had five hundred people in the parking 164 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 5: lot the next day. I mean more traffic now I 165 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 5: can handle. I tell people all the time, you can 166 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 5: work your butt off as much as you want. If 167 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 5: you're not ready for it, you will fold. So I 168 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 5: always be ready when when that call come. And I 169 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 5: was ready for that phone call. And from year to 170 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 5: year twenty eighteen, I ranked number seven world and sandwiches, 171 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 5: not just cheese steaks and sandwiches. And that gave me 172 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 5: like a big opportunity to start being able to scale 173 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 5: the brand because now you know, like when you a 174 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 5: new business, it's hard to least. Spaces like Tennis don't 175 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 5: want to give it to They're like, hey, well, how 176 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 5: many locations you got, And if you like, yeah, I 177 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 5: got one location in the gas station, You're like all right, well, 178 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 5: come see me later. You know, you get a couple 179 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 5: more and now I'm anchor tennis and most of the 180 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 5: places I'm in. You know, it's you know, I've seen 181 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 5: my whole life transition in the last like for force 182 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 5: of my years, just like year over year getting more opportunities. 183 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 5: But most of all, I ain't taking no fun answer, 184 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 5: Like I'm really knocking on these doors saying, listen, I 185 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 5: deserve this, and if you don't want to give it 186 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 5: to me, you're going to feel it when you see 187 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 5: it because I gave you everything that I was supposed to. 188 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 5: It's like somebody coming to you right now saying they 189 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 5: qualified to come talk on this show, and you know 190 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 5: that they have all the occolades and all the special 191 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 5: things that it takes to be on this platform, and 192 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 5: you don't want to give it to them. So who 193 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 5: wrong is that? You know? That's the way I look 194 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 5: at it. I say, you know, they're not going to 195 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 5: keep locking me out these rooms, and right now they 196 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 5: don't have no choice. 197 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: You know, Derek, there's a lot of people who are 198 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 2: starting their own businesses and starting where you started, right 199 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: where it might not be any customers for a while, 200 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: you're still trying to like get it going. You said 201 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: it took a year and a half until that happened. 202 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 2: So were you the person there that was physically having 203 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: to work? Because that's also something that for entrepreneurs to 204 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: understand that a lot of times when you're launching a. 205 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: Business, you have to physically, yeah, you at. 206 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: Present and do the work, and sometimes you might not 207 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: even have other employees. So I just want you to 208 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: talk about those early days because for somebody else starting, 209 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: this could be an inspiration to them to know this 210 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: is the because they could see you now and be like, yeah, 211 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: he's doing great, he's got this, he's got this platform, 212 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: he's all over the place. I see him at invest pass. 213 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: He just came from Martha's vineyard. But to know what 214 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: happened before that, I think is important. 215 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 5: Oh man, that's actually good because that's what I really 216 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 5: care about. I care about people seeing the sea before 217 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 5: the flowers grown because it was a lot of work. 218 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 5: So I actually like to I'm gonna pat myself on 219 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 5: the back right now because I actually started in a 220 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 5: gas station seven hundred and forty nine square feet with 221 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 5: a broken fry and a broken grill, and at that time, 222 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 5: I didn't realize that I was, even in my own 223 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 5: life in danger the way things was hooked up and 224 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 5: it I just was hustling. I'm like, plugged the cording, 225 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 5: you know, I'm just whatever. He's just winging it. I'm like, 226 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on. But at the same time, 227 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 5: like you know, the people, they seen so much hustling me, 228 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 5: they see so much like grinding that they wanted to 229 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 5: see me make it. And I think I think the 230 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 5: people kept me strong throughout the years of it was 231 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 5: but most of all, I think it was just honestly 232 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 5: me wanting to get to a certain point that I 233 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 5: never been. I wanted to challenge myself. But in the 234 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 5: gas station, it was like I felt like I was 235 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 5: on an island by myself because I felt like nobody 236 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 5: was paying attention. And I'm like, I'm this young kid 237 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 5: from West Philly. I got all this traffic, but I 238 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 5: don't know what I'm doing. But I'm hustling, you know, 239 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 5: I'm just looking for that right person to come alone 240 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 5: and say I'm gonna help you get to the next point. 241 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 5: And that didn't happen for me until later on. But 242 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 5: I had to take all of those years and just 243 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 5: you know, at nighttime, I'm reading tutorials. I'm just teaching 244 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 5: myself so that now when I'm sitting at the table, 245 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 5: I know somewhat of what I'm talking about, so they 246 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 5: could take me serious. But those were the best years 247 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 5: of my career because those were the years where I 248 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 5: was challenging myself the most. Because it's easier to make 249 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 5: something out of yourself when the world know who you 250 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 5: are and you getting opportunities, But when you ain't getting 251 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 5: opportunities and you hustling, and nobody sees the hard work, 252 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 5: nobody sees the grind. And you're looking at your reviews, 253 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 5: every one of them, and you every time you see 254 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 5: a five star, you jumping out. You're just like, yes, 255 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 5: they love it, you know, and that feeling is very 256 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 5: hard to get back. But most of all, I was 257 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 5: taking care of individuals that was in that community, like 258 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 5: it was. It was guys who was divorced or you know, 259 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 5: a wife deceased or whatever, and they would come and 260 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 5: get you know, big days three or four times a week, 261 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 5: and I had partial relationships with these people, and nobody 262 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 5: cooked for me. I worked my butt off seven years, 263 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 5: seven days a week to build this business. I just 264 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 5: got off the grill three or four years ago. Wow, 265 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 5: so you know you can't take your hand off the wheel. 266 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 5: A billionaire said this to me. He said, listen, do 267 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 5: you want to build a famous mom and pop or 268 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 5: you want to scale this brand? And I said, I 269 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 5: want to scale this brand. That was always my goal. 270 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 5: He said, well, in order to scale this brand, you 271 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 5: got to learn the brand. Right now, you teaching inside 272 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 5: the facility, you're working with the social but now you 273 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 5: got to run the machine. And running the machines take 274 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 5: you to learn profit and lost cocks, even that, all 275 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 5: of these things. To know what you're doing, putting the 276 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 5: right c suites together, the right people, that's going to 277 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 5: help you scale. Because let me tell you something, loyalty 278 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 5: is one thing, but if you don't know what the 279 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 5: hell you're doing, loyalty don't mean nothing in scaling the brand. 280 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 5: You really got to know what you're doing. And I 281 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 5: go so hard off of loyalty. I had to say, 282 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 5: you know what, I got to be loyal to myself too. 283 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 5: And being loyal to yourself is understanding that you're paying 284 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 5: people in position you know that don't have the expertise 285 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 5: to take you to that level. The smart thing to do, 286 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 5: I like to say, is if you believe in somebody 287 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 5: and they going hard for you and they don't have 288 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 5: the expertise to get there, you pick somebody in front 289 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 5: of them that's can teach them and guide them so 290 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 5: that you provide opportunities for them. And that's what I 291 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 5: started doing. 292 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: Talk about that because you obviously had a great product, 293 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: you believed in, you hustled, you worked. That's very different 294 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: than running and scaling a company. Yeah, I mean completely 295 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: different skills, and a lot of entrepreneurs get caught up 296 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: in their idea but also not realizing you have to 297 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: have all those skills to run a company. 298 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 5: Well, you gotta have the smart to know that. You 299 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 5: can't be the smartest person in the room. That's just 300 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 5: odd to it. I went from saying and I to we, 301 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 5: and when you get to we, we win. I lose. 302 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 5: You know I did this, I did that, And now 303 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 5: on your team, looking like, well what about when we 304 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 5: was hustling with you, doing these things we was doing 305 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 5: with you? You want everybody to feel included, you know, you 306 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 5: wanted to feel like a team, like my company really 307 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 5: run like a fortune five and your business. I got 308 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 5: different departments. I run a company. I'm the face of 309 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 5: the company, but I don't run the operations. I got 310 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 5: a president right now, I got a director of operations. 311 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 5: I got a franchise advisor with over one hundred restaurants. 312 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 5: So like, my team is really corporately sound and strong 313 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 5: because I know when I step in those rooms and 314 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 5: I'm going to the different levels, I'm getting a certain 315 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 5: respect I deserve. 316 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes we're so used to running our business, 317 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: like you said, it started off as a mom and pop. Yeah, 318 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: and it feels like you're giving up control in a 319 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: certain type of way because you're used to things happening 320 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 2: a certain way and operating on that level. How was 321 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: it for you mentally to be able to be like, 322 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: I gotta trust other people. I gotta put these people 323 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: in position, because sometimes we know we need to do that, 324 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: but kind of letting it go is a little difficult. 325 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 5: It was the hardest thing. Honestly, It was probably harder 326 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 5: than anything that I ever dealt with, because it's your baby. 327 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 5: It's like letting somebody watch your child, and you be like, 328 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 5: is this person qualified to like watch my children? To 329 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 5: spend the night and all those things. So like your 330 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 5: your business, especially a business that you picture blessed, wet 331 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 5: and tears in and you seeing it growing, and you 332 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 5: gotta now, you know, put it in somebody else's hands. 333 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 5: You got to make sure that they represent the same 334 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 5: things that you represent. You got to make sure that 335 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 5: their goals are the same goals that you want. And 336 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 5: you also got to look at it like this, if 337 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 5: you were if your benefit is just a money gain 338 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 5: or money grab, this is not for you, because I'm 339 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 5: looking at history. You know, even when people you know, 340 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 5: you know, even in my family, like hey man, you 341 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 5: didn't turn into a celebrity. No I'm not. I'm legendary. 342 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be something much bigger than any celebrity can 343 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 5: ever put a title one. Because that's what that's what 344 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 5: I believe in myself. When you're looking at the Warren Buffets, 345 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 5: the Elon Musk, when you're looking at the Robert Smiths, 346 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 5: the Rich Dennis, all these all these people that have 347 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 5: I've done things in their careers to get to a 348 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 5: certain point. They had to do something that was uncomfortable 349 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 5: to get there. And right now I'm going through my 350 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 5: uncomfortable stage and that's getting away from people that don't 351 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 5: fit me, that don't represent me and don't operate the 352 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 5: way I operate, and that go from family, friends, anybody, 353 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 5: because I'm not gonna let nobody stop me from getting 354 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 5: to the point I want to get to. On how 355 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 5: hard I work talk. 356 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 3: You mentioned being uncomfortable, talk about an experience that you 357 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: had in this whole journey that that was this was 358 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 3: like my big learning moment. 359 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 5: Well are you looking at it right now? So right 360 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 5: now I'm in my Series A raise. I got this 361 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 5: far without raising capital, So right now, you know me 362 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 5: saying I own one hundred percent of my company on paper, 363 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 5: it won't look at like that. You know that I'm 364 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 5: raising capital now, and that's something that I got to 365 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 5: live with and be okay with. So the next chapter 366 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 5: of my career, I gotta be okay with who I 367 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 5: allow to be a part of this journey and make 368 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 5: sure that I pick the right soldiers that I'm continuing to, 369 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 5: you know, move forward with this brand. It's very uncomfortable 370 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 5: because when you're looking at VC's private equity, whether it's friends, family, 371 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 5: anybody that wants to join around, you want to make 372 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 5: sure they aline to what you're doing, and I change 373 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 5: the culture in your business and right now, that's something 374 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 5: that I've never experienced right now, and I'm going into 375 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 5: that right now. But I have the experience to know 376 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 5: what's right and wrong for me. And I waited to 377 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 5: get to this point to get the right evaluation that 378 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 5: I wanted. I didn't want to rush. 379 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: Right And you know, you've spoken about being the face 380 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: of your brand, and I've known you for a while, 381 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: and I do want to say I've always felt like 382 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: you have preferred to stay in the background. I don't 383 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: know if that's true or not, but you are the 384 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: face of your brand, and so doing these interviews. I 385 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: saw you on Denna Kings too, so that was a 386 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: really dope space. Thank you, you know, to being and 387 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: I've seen you do a ton of interviews also, But 388 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: was that something that you were like because I've never 389 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: felt like you were the person that. 390 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: Wanted to be like. 391 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 4: I wanted to build the business front and center. 392 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 5: I wanted to build the business. I felt like the 393 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 5: talking would come later. I wanted to make sure that 394 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 5: I had what I what I had to back up. 395 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 5: You know, it's like boxing, you know, it's like I 396 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 5: can knock this guy out. But if you ain't in shape, 397 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 5: in your mindset, ain't there, You're not gonna win the battle. 398 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 5: I wanted to make sure that before you know, I 399 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 5: got to a certain point, I was able to deliver. 400 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 5: And it was difficult because even when I was ready, 401 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 5: I wasn't getting the attention that I deserved. And when 402 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 5: I was putting out, I mean, you know, I'm a 403 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 5: black kid that've been making millions and millions of dollars 404 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 5: a year over year, no where, no big articles, no 405 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 5: national headlines and any of that. I mean, how can 406 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 5: you not explore that and showcase that what's going on? 407 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 5: But again, I'm a weapon. I understand that. So they 408 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 5: got to hide me a little bit because if I 409 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 5: do come out, then I'm motivating every kid in the 410 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 5: ghetto right now that you don't want to have those opportunities. 411 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 3: Wow, your business really took off through the F word franchising. Yes, 412 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: And we talked to so many entrepreneurs and you know, 413 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 3: you're thinking about I want to start a small business. 414 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 4: So I want to start a small business. 415 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: How do we get our commuit unity to kind of 416 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: shift from starting small businesses to growing bigger businesses. 417 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 4: It's particularly through franchising. 418 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, we're so we're so far behind 419 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 5: because it's less than eight percent of African Americans that 420 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 5: even own a franchise. So let's talk about the actual 421 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 5: part of even understanding what you're trying to build, because 422 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 5: most of us sell before we even get something powerful, 423 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 5: because we are looking for some financial gain to make 424 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 5: it out of our bad situations. That when we have 425 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 5: something strong and somebody says he here's twenty million, and 426 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 5: you take twenty million, they turn your company to a 427 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 5: four hundred million dollar company. It happens over and over 428 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 5: and over again. That's the reason why African Americans has 429 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 5: never taken a fast casual brand to a billion dollars 430 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 5: because we always sell too fast because when it gets 431 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 5: hard to get difficult, it get uncomfortable, and we're not 432 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 5: willing to fight that fight. Well, I'm going to fight 433 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 5: that fight. I'm going to do it no matter how 434 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 5: hard to get because i have a goal that I'm 435 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 5: trying to get to. And it's not because of me 436 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 5: just saying oh, I'm different from anybody else. I understand 437 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 5: what's happening to us. I'm in a rooms now, I 438 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 5: understand what's going on. So I'm like that that thing 439 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 5: you see. You know, if I could see it, I 440 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 5: could be it. And no matter whether it's black, white, 441 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 5: no matter if it's Asian, no matter who it is. 442 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 5: If I'm around the information, I know it's for me too. 443 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 5: I soak it in like a sponge. I can have 444 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 5: the same opportunity. So somebody can come right now offer 445 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 5: me one hundred to hundred million for my company. They 446 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 5: can kick rocks. 447 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 4: Just know what I'm going Your. 448 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: Plan is to have one hundred franchises by the end 449 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: of the year. 450 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm on my way. I'm about to make some 451 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 5: big announcements soon. 452 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: Oh wow, you look so happy. 453 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 5: Man. Listen, I got so much stuff that I'm about 454 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 5: to drop twenty twenty six. Man, it's like I feel 455 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 5: like I'm still dreaming. I do it because you know, 456 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 5: for a lot of years, man, you know, I sat 457 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 5: in a dark place because I felt like I was 458 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 5: getting annoyed with something powerful. But God say the best 459 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 5: for last. 460 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 3: When you let's talk a little bit more about franchising. 461 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 3: When people think about doing it, it's a great way 462 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: to have a small business in some ways, and as 463 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: you franchise big daves, how do you still kind of 464 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: keep control. 465 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 5: Well a culture. So, so I'm glad you actually brought 466 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 5: that up. So and anybody that's franchising, I think you 467 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 5: should do the same thing what I'm about to say. So, 468 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 5: we got something called Discovery Day. Discovery Day you find 469 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 5: out what the person is about there once you show 470 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 5: them the systems and your business, they go around your restaurants. 471 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 5: But the one thing I asked before Discovery Day is over, 472 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 5: I say, pitch your money to the side. What can 473 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 5: you do to help me and resources scale this brand? 474 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 5: And right now I'm a young brand. And if you 475 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 5: can't answer that, then that changes things for me because 476 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 5: if money gain is all you went out of this, 477 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 5: what's going to happen when the economy ever get rough 478 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 5: or anything like that. Are you still a rod? Are 479 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 5: you still trying to figure out ways of bringing the 480 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 5: company together? Are you going to create opportunities to help 481 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 5: the company scale. That's why I'm so happy and proud 482 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 5: of Derek Lewis down and Orlando, because Derek was the 483 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 5: ex PEPSI president, but he put his money where his 484 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 5: mouth is. He bought ten locations. He was able to 485 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 5: open up two Brick and Waters now three stadiums that 486 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 5: he's being represented in. I'm also in now in South 487 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 5: Carolina and Columbia. Amazing location, one of my best locations, 488 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 5: sixteen hundred square food box depending out record breaking numbers. 489 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 5: And I'm gonna go ahead and give it to y'all 490 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 5: on this. I'm about that an now it is Greenville, 491 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 5: South Carolina. Whe I'm about to do the wild break 492 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 5: next week. 493 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: Wow, congratulations. 494 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 5: And I'm about to announce another one. That's the Georgia 495 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 5: World Congress Center where investmentster is health this year. So 496 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be doing some amazing things for investment. 497 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: Oh wow, perfect. 498 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 3: Timing, Screenville, South Carolina. 499 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 4: You heard it here. 500 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,239 Speaker 5: Yes, I had to break the news. Yes I had 501 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 5: to give it. Oh maybe puts the hold that, but 502 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 5: it's all good. 503 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: Listen, well Wednesday breaking news exclusives exactly. And I want 504 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: to talk about Ahtlantha because, as you discussed, like also 505 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: knowing that when you're talking to potential franchise owners on 506 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: Discovery Day, knowing that, Okay, this is not just about money. 507 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: Let's put the money to the side. 508 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: But also you have been very intentional on making sure 509 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: that you're involved in community as well. When you're thinking 510 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: about other people to be involved in who you're doing 511 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 2: business with, is that something you take into consideration also. 512 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean because you want to know what these 513 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 5: people represent. I mean, you know, I wanted to be 514 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 5: a line. You know, community is what built me. You know, 515 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 5: a lot of people would like to say that. It's 516 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 5: like it's almost like accepting in the world. You know, 517 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 5: everybody'd be like, I want to thank God. It's just 518 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 5: the natural thing to do. But community is really the 519 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 5: right thing to do, because without community, you have no business. 520 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 5: If these people aren't standing in your lines every day 521 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 5: and supporting you, how are you actually making money to 522 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 5: continue to pay your payroll, scale your brand. So I 523 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 5: always try to give back, whether that's you know, me 524 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 5: helping out Carver High School a few years back, donating 525 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 5: twenty thousand dollars into their hub and now their hub 526 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 5: is named after me. Whether that's giving forty thousand dollars 527 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 5: to an actual business in New York City, which I'm 528 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 5: thousand miles away from, but you know, I heard the 529 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 5: story of it, this business being around for a long time, 530 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 5: or whether that's you know, feeding over forty hospitals, you 531 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 5: know in COVID or a thousand people in the community 532 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 5: doing COVID every single day, or to me partnering with 533 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 5: my pinky with Rashad Brooks, donating his family a car, 534 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 5: giving the school of scholarships, life insurance, or paying life 535 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 5: insurance on twenty five thousand black men with my wife. 536 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 5: So I've done so many things when it comes to community, 537 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 5: because the business is one thing, community is another thing. 538 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 5: Philanthropy is something else. That's three different businesses that I operate. 539 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 5: And I'm very intentional about how I move with the 540 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 5: community because I always want them to understand who I 541 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 5: am as a person first before they buying a product. 542 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 5: So like I got die hard fans like that really 543 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 5: loved me, you know, like really rock for me, stand 544 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 5: for me. Anything that happens in my business. They're always there. 545 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 5: And money came by that, and fake words came by that. 546 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 5: Real truth represents that because when we was in COVID 547 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 5: and we was in the middle of that pandemic, none 548 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 5: of us ain't enough experience it before. And I told 549 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 5: my account even when he was going against me. Yeah, 550 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 5: but you know why I did that, because you know, 551 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 5: it's easy for us to get on platforms like this 552 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 5: and run on them up and tell people we stand for, 553 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 5: but who really stand for things when it really happens. 554 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 5: I want to show people that's really what I stand for, 555 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 5: That's really who I am as a person. Not even 556 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 5: knowing what's going to happen the next day. Mind you, 557 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 5: we every business at that time taking a big hit financially. 558 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 5: I was walking in hospitals with an N ninety five 559 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 5: on feeding the doctors and nurses in there because I'm like, 560 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 5: hold on, we got the frontline workers right here. They 561 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 5: don't know what's going on with COVID nineteen. We've never 562 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 5: heard of it. But I want to stand there and 563 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 5: help these people so that now they know they're not 564 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 5: in this alone. They're giving them healthy least I could 565 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 5: do his feed them. 566 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 4: Now. 567 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: Listen, you brought up your wife, Pinky. You know I 568 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: love me some Pinky, So I want to know and 569 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 2: I remember when you guys got married. Obviously you guys 570 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: have a growing family. 571 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 5: Man like we like the Brady Bunch man. 572 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: You guys are franchising, franchise right. 573 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 5: Franchising kids. That's the clothe line. 574 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 2: But I wanted to ask you, like if I feel 575 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: like when I talk to Pinky. When I talk to you, 576 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 2: it's business business. How is it for you guys? Like 577 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 2: how how do are y'all able to switch off, you know, 578 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: talking about things at home? And do you is there 579 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 2: any type of like all right, we gotta not mention things? 580 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: Or is it always like is that your bedroom language too? 581 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 5: It's so normal that I don't even pay attention sometimes, 582 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 5: you know. Like so Pinky, she's a big part of 583 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 5: my motivation because she lock in sometimes when I don't 584 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 5: feel like locking it, you know, like she she might 585 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 5: be like, dude, we gotta do this, and nobody, look, man, 586 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 5: let's let me get some time tired. But you know what, 587 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 5: tired don't make greatness. And I had to learn it 588 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 5: over the years. Pinky is one of the hardest working 589 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 5: people I know change. She's always locked in, she's always 590 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 5: going for it, and I know she went the best 591 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 5: for me. So we motivate each other. I mean, we 592 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 5: sit there and we talk about business ideas, but most 593 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 5: of all, we enjoy each other. It ain't always easy 594 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 5: because we both too entrepreneurs just trying to grow. Sometimes 595 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 5: we get in competition, you know, not purposely, but we 596 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 5: gotta make sure that we don't let outside people try 597 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 5: to stare us against each other. And that's what we 598 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 5: do the best because we see it coming from afar. 599 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 5: Whether we don't care who it is. Whenever somebody says 600 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 5: something versus the other company, we're looking at each other like, yeah, 601 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 5: this person gotta go. 602 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: Some of her is rubbing off on you. She's very 603 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: health conscious. 604 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 5: Oh, many got be working. 605 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 3: Right. 606 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 607 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 3: You know. 608 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 5: For me, you know, my dad passed away from lung 609 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 5: cancer and I'm thirty eight years old. Now, my metabolism 610 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 5: slowed down, so you know, eating you're gonna get that gut. 611 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 5: So I'm like, you know, I gotta start working out. 612 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 5: I never had to worry about gaining weight ever in 613 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 5: my life. It was always a fast, fast burn every 614 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 5: time I eat. I used to, you know, tease my 615 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 5: cousins like, yeah, y'all gott to worry about that. I'm cool. 616 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 5: But when you're almost forty, you know, things changing. Honestly. 617 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 5: You know, we can say that we want to get 618 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 5: to the billion, we could say we want to get 619 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 5: to one hundred million, whatever your desire is, but if 620 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 5: your health in dare, You're never gonna get to none 621 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 5: of it, you know, so I had to make sure 622 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 5: that my health come first, and I want to see 623 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 5: my kids grow up. You know, my dad never seen 624 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 5: me make it past twenty one. You know, I want 625 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 5: to see my son when he gets get married. You know, 626 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 5: I got married, and that was one of the hardest 627 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 5: things for me, is not to have my dad there seeing, 628 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 5: you know, me love and cherish somebody in a moment. 629 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 5: So I had to keep them there in spirit. So 630 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 5: I actually want to see my kids go through those 631 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 5: moments and I want to be there. I want to 632 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 5: play with my grandkids. I want to give them resources 633 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 5: and opportunities. I want to say, hey, you know, you 634 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 5: can even go to college or take a trade or 635 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 5: just jumping in the business. But I want to be 636 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 5: the one that's there to do it. And you know 637 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 5: what I'm doing right now for my dad. It ain't 638 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 5: easy because some days I need them, you know, some 639 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 5: days I really need to talk to him. Some days 640 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 5: I wish I was there to hug him or just 641 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 5: have that conversation saying you know, this is hard, but 642 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 5: I know when it gets hired, he right there beside 643 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 5: me every single time, So you know, I'm living in faith. 644 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 3: Some entrepreneurs Yeah, they just don't think they have time 645 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 3: to take care of themselves, and they just don't make 646 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 3: that link between health and the success of your business, 647 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 3: and they think of it's almost as a luxury. And 648 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: it also takes a big mental health on them as well. 649 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 3: What advice would you have for them. 650 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 5: It's gonna sit you down. If you don't take your 651 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 5: health serious, It's gonna eventually sit you down. I tell 652 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 5: you what. I've been working out now for about a month, 653 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 5: and I'm so clear, I'm so conscious. I wake up 654 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 5: in the morning with energy. I was burnt out, you know, literally, 655 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 5: I'm not afraid to say that. For years, I was 656 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 5: just like running off an empty tank because I'm just 657 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 5: always working, always trying to build, always create opportunities for myself. 658 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 5: But you're just lying to yourself. You're smiling into the world, 659 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 5: but you're crying inside because you're tired. And lately, I 660 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 5: just been taking my health real serious, eating different, and 661 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 5: not only that, I'm praying, praying a lot more. You know. 662 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 5: I was just in church with Jamal Brian from Martha's Veyarrant, 663 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 5: and Jamal, I'm gonna go ahead and tell you, bro 664 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 5: that word hit me like you know a lot of people, 665 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 5: you know, when they're in situations when we're talking about God, 666 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 5: they get in a shame mode because they don't want 667 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 5: to see people see them, you know, rejoice and feel 668 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 5: good about being in church and those things. But how 669 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 5: can you be ashamed to guy who brung you here? 670 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 5: You know, I had to even snap out of that 671 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 5: myself while I'm in church and Marthe's venyrant, everybody sitting there, 672 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 5: you know, looking at each other, looking pretty and all 673 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 5: those things. I'm here right now to get these sins 674 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 5: forgiven and give another chance in a longer life. So 675 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 5: I ain't here any playing around. So when you know 676 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 5: Pastor Brian was saying that message in that word that 677 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 5: he gave, I was one hundred percent of locked in 678 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 5: because it resonated because we was a group of African 679 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 5: Americans sitting at the highest high in one place in 680 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 5: Martha's Vinyrant, and all of us come from different places, 681 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 5: different backgrounds, whether it's the ghetto or whether you came 682 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 5: from you know, a silver spoon. You got to understand 683 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 5: what it's like to not come from it and what 684 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 5: it is to actually have it. And that was special. 685 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: This is special too. 686 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: I want to say, you're only thirty eight years old, 687 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: thirty eight years young. Yes, I have to say, and 688 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,239 Speaker 2: to think of everything that you've accomplished so far. I 689 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: know your dad would be extremely proud to see how 690 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: all of this has been unfolding for you. 691 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, honestly, I'm really think I 692 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 5: think the Martha's vyr T I needed because I'm too 693 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 5: hard on myself sometimes. And it's not because you know, 694 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 5: I feel like I want to just keep making announcements 695 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 5: and keep on, you know, making things happen. I really 696 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 5: challenge myself so like, you know, how like you look 697 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 5: at your like your year over year, like what do 698 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 5: you want to be this year? I wanted to walk 699 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 5: into twenty twenty six just being clear. I feel like 700 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 5: I'm always figgy. I feel like, you know, I always 701 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 5: got multiple things going on in my mind. And I 702 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 5: finally got a point where I say, you know what, 703 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 5: I'm gonna take a pause and learn how to just 704 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 5: be clear and conscious for who I am in the world. 705 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 5: Going to see that later on, because when we just 706 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 5: running and running and running and doing things. Especially you know, 707 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 5: you've been in You've been in the media for so 708 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 5: long I mean think about it. Think about it, like, 709 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 5: you know, when do you really have time to yourself. 710 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 5: You go to the market, you go anywhere, Oh hey Angela. 711 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 5: You know, it's like every somebody always saying something to you. 712 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 5: You can't do nothing wrong because it's going straight to 713 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 5: the tabloids. So it's like, all this pressure comes with 714 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 5: our line of work that we want. But then we 715 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 5: got to understand too. We build in these massive things, 716 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 5: but we also trend set her. So you can't ask 717 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 5: for something and not lead the right way at the 718 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 5: same time, So you can't ask for to be special 719 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 5: and not come with the pressure. I like to say this, 720 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 5: you can't ask for success if you're not willing to 721 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 5: get hit with the bag. 722 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying now, you're right. 723 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: And I do have to say, even seeing like with 724 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: Pinky and she had to, she's always been really public 725 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: and honest about things that she has to go through, 726 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 2: And I think that's important because if not, you let 727 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: other people tell the story for you and you have 728 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: to come forward and be like, look, I got to 729 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: tell y'all what happened, and. 730 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 5: She did that so well. I mean, like, you know, honestly, 731 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 5: a lot of us was like not even you know, 732 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 5: we was giving her a different advice from you know, 733 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 5: from her standpoint. But that's why Pinky is who she 734 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 5: is because she always want to be honest with people. 735 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 5: She's an open book. See. The thing with people got 736 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 5: to stop doing even with entrepreneurs when it comes to 737 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 5: musicians or athletes, if you pick the money to the 738 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 5: side and just look at the work and look at 739 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 5: the person, then you won't get tricked out of anything. 740 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 5: Because you know, when we look at the wealthiest people 741 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 5: world and we could see something come out on the 742 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 5: tabloids about somebody not paying something, you're like, oh, that 743 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 5: person's going broke. Y'all don't understand business. You know, like 744 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 5: businesses is formulas and procedures on how you keep your 745 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 5: financial gains. If you it's like, you know, even when 746 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 5: people file bankruptcy, right, some of these people filing bankruptcy with. 747 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: The bank, look at the president. 748 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean shit many times. Yeah. But the thing 749 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 5: is that, you know, I think that from a culture, 750 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 5: it's a culture of our race that when we hear 751 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 5: anything happening when it comes to a household or a business, 752 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 5: we think it's over instead of coming together help uplifting 753 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 5: that person. Because I've seen my wife raise multiple hundreds 754 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 5: of thousand dollars for people while she was fighting for 755 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 5: her own life. 756 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: I've seen her go online and just be like, go 757 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: to this business. 758 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 5: And by and by and listen. When she did that, 759 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 5: she was actually she raised two hundred and some thousand 760 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 5: dollars for that business while she was trying to get 761 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 5: millions of dollars for her for herself. 762 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes people also assume that you have money and 763 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 2: they think you're in a position and you're like, the 764 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: business is in the family too. 765 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 5: I mean, like right now, my family sees everything that 766 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 5: I have going on, and nothing against them. But you know, 767 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 5: I got a lot of employees. I got a lot 768 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 5: of bills. It takes a lot. I got four hundred employees. 769 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 5: It takes a lot to around my company, you know, 770 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 5: And at the same time, I'm building wealth. I didn't 771 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 5: get to a point where I can just sit still 772 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 5: and stagnant every day. And even if I did, I 773 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 5: wouldn't stay stagnant. I mean that's just not me. And 774 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 5: I you know, sitting down with Tyler Perry and Kerry 775 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 5: Franklin and Jeez with the dinner Kings. It was so 776 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 5: special for me because I got a chance to talk 777 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 5: to first of all, my good friend Jesus, that's my brother. 778 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 5: We talk about so many things on so many levels 779 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 5: of culture, business and relationship. Shout out to him. He 780 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 5: always give me good advice. But Tyler Perry just told 781 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 5: the world that he's still going through things as being 782 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 5: a billionaire. He's still not getting the same due as 783 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 5: being a billionaire. So how can I walk in the 784 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 5: room saying I'm not getting what's due for me when 785 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 5: I got a black man who's proof in himself and 786 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 5: still fighting and getting certain situations. And I think that 787 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 5: for me, humbled me and open eyes for a lot 788 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 5: of things. And Kurt Franklin just that that's soul like 789 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 5: he put into like you, like instilling you. He could 790 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 5: just he can give you a little bit of game, 791 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 5: but it's like you feel it. So all of those guys, Man, 792 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 5: I appreciate just having an opportunity on my birthday, on 793 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 5: my thirty eighth birthday, I got to sit with those 794 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 5: giants in my career. And I'm never going to forget 795 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 5: about that moment because that's shape in my future right now. 796 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 4: Wow, last thing on with you is you. I've been. 797 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 3: So touched by your father, and your father's just coming 798 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 3: out in every part of you. How do you when 799 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 3: your kids look at your journey, what do you want 800 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 3: them to have seen. 801 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 5: I just want my kids to respect me and love me. 802 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of kids fare their parents, 803 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 5: not love them and respect them. It's a difference like 804 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 5: if you had abusive parent your whole life. You just 805 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 5: fear them, you know, and you hate them later on. 806 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 5: I want my kids to really honor me and see 807 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 5: what I did was really for them, for their financial game, 808 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 5: for their resources, for their opportunity. Because let me tell 809 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 5: you something. I don't know if you guys know, but 810 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 5: we're getting replaced by robots, We're getting replaced by AI. 811 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 5: If you ain't out here opening up a format for 812 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 5: your kids and your family to be able to survive, 813 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 5: and you in trouble and right now, you know, I 814 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 5: look at a lot of people's you know, spending days, 815 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 5: you know, partying. Nothing against that. I spent a lot 816 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 5: of days party. I did a lot of party in 817 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 5: my twenties. There's so much party in my twenties. I 818 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 5: don't care about doing it in my thirties. But I 819 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 5: feel like partying is okay, But what are we celebrating, Like, 820 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 5: what am I celebrating? I'm going out every weekend? What 821 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 5: the hell am I celebrating popping bottles on all these things? 822 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 5: And I used to do that. I used to blow 823 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 5: so much money. I spent millions, you know, just just 824 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 5: doing stupid stuff by the jetry cars, all these things. 825 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 5: But now it took me to do it, and I 826 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 5: gotta teach it differently because I can't sit here and 827 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 5: be ignorant to things that I know that's not gonna 828 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 5: be what's gonna take you to the next level. What's 829 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 5: gonna take you to the next level is do the 830 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 5: things that's gonna be uncomfortable, and that's staying focused, that's 831 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 5: staying relevant, and that's staying real educated in your business, 832 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 5: because if you don't learn how to operate your business, 833 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 5: somebody else will and you will always have to call 834 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 5: them for the answer, and guess what that does? That 835 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 5: always make you behind the gun. 836 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: But we appreciate this. This has been amazing. I love it. 837 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 1: I'm glad you came. 838 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 5: No, I'm glad that I got a chance, and I 839 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 5: can't wait to finally get up here on the way 840 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 5: up other announcements. 841 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 3: Which you're gonna come back to Wealth Wednesdays to break 842 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 3: of course. 843 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 2: Yes, and then when you all do Real Housewives of Atlanta, 844 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 2: you know you can come up here and talk about 845 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: it too. 846 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 3: About that, Okay, nice try, Thank you so much, Derek. 847 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 3: We'll be coming by for some cheese steaks since you. 848 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 5: Hopefully you know I mean being in New York soon. 849 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 4: You know I'm franchising, so let us know, let us know.