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Speaker 1: Welcome back to NFL Daily, where we're thinking about all

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Speaker 1: the great points we didn't make on the first show.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think about when I leave here. I

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Speaker 1: was just like, Oh, I had a banger on how

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Speaker 1: conservative Mike McDonald is. Didn't get that one out. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk late games. We do that in the second

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Speaker 1: part of the show. And I like the prime time

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Speaker 1: slate this week. It should I support it.

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Speaker 2: It should be fun, including a game that gets the

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Speaker 2: Fox one team. It's Tom Brady at at and T

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Speaker 2: Stadium with Kevin Burkhardt up there with him. The Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: Eagles are back against the Dallas Cowboys where they are

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Speaker 2: three point favorite. Quinn Williams, Demarvion Overshawn. The defense looked

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Speaker 2: better Gregett was against the Raiders. They looked better against

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Speaker 2: the Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Yes, because the Eagles offense is not it, and I

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Speaker 1: know this is an easier amount for them and they're

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Speaker 1: going to play better and it's indoors. All that will help,

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Speaker 1: of course, but I do think it's worth noting like

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Speaker 1: Quinn Williams could be a force multiplier there where their

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Speaker 1: run defense could immediately get respectable. I went back and

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Speaker 1: watched some of those overshown snaps. He looked pretty good.

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Speaker 1: So that's adding two important players. You're healthier on the

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Speaker 1: back end with you know, Deron Bladsman back for a

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Speaker 1: few weeks now, but you get your high pick. Shavon

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Speaker 1: Ravel is in the mix too. It's pretty deep up front.

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Speaker 1: I just haven't ruled out this Cowboys team. And maybe

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Speaker 1: it's wishful thinking, being frisky.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: And they're they're basically in primetime. I know this is

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Speaker 1: not primetime. This is you know, the standalone game at

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Speaker 1: four twenty five, but between Thanksgiving and primetime, they're basically

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Speaker 1: in primetime for the next five weeks.

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Speaker 3: So get ready for a lot of Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: If you if you thought we hadn't had enough Cowboys

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Speaker 1: this year, more Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they the only solution is mark poor Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like this is they're hoping that you

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Speaker 4: just didn't watch them the entire previous part of the year,

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Speaker 4: although the offense probably feels good about the body of

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Speaker 4: work that it's before. But yeah, yes it was against

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Speaker 4: the Raiders, but when you kind of watch that defense

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Speaker 4: in a vacuum, the piece has made sense. More of

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Speaker 4: the concepts that they were running made sense, and it

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Speaker 4: looked like a defense that could actually defend multiple types

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Speaker 4: of attacks. You know, the Raiders aren't running like an

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Speaker 4: eleven personnel attack. The Eagles recently haven't really been leaning

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Speaker 4: on eleven personnel either, and they haven't been successful in

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Speaker 4: anything they've tried to do. Meanwhile, the Cowboys offense is fun.

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Speaker 4: It's downright fun. Not only do you have Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 4: and George Pickens playing awesome football, you have Deck Prescott

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Speaker 4: playing awesome football. You have Brian Schottenheimer in his bag.

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Speaker 4: They're starting to bring the run game along back like

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Speaker 4: how it was at the beginning of the year a

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Speaker 4: little bit more. And I think that even though this

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Speaker 4: Eagles defense is absolutely great, this is a game where

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Speaker 4: they do have some vulnerabilities. If the Cowboys play out

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Speaker 4: of tendency a little bit, If Brian Schottenheimer decides that

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Speaker 4: he's going to use Dak Prescott in a play action

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Speaker 4: a little bit more than the thirty percent rate very

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Speaker 4: low that he's using him already, the Eagles are very susceptible.

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Speaker 4: Actually two big plays there. They're allowing almost ten yards

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Speaker 4: per play out of play action right now, as outstanding

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Speaker 4: as this defense is so I think if the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: just expand, just like widen your horizons a little bit, Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: reach your potential. I think this could be really fun game.

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Speaker 2: It could be a fun game. Jalen Carr is hopefully

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Speaker 2: going to play the entire game this time and not

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Speaker 2: just warm up and be the first Spider and then leave.

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Speaker 4: Enough spitting.

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Speaker 2: Also, yeah, let's put a bow on spitting for the

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Speaker 2: remainder of the twenty.

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Speaker 3: Twenty five and a great era for the NFL.

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Speaker 2: But honestly, I'm going to need to see it consistently

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Speaker 2: to believe, because I know Quinnin Williams and Marvinovshan are

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Speaker 2: going to help. This would go a long way towards

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Speaker 2: making me believe in this Matt Eberflus defense, because the

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Speaker 2: situation upfront for the Raiders is dire high school ish

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Speaker 2: at this point, and so it'll go a long way

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Speaker 2: towards proving that they can be frisky and then like

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Speaker 2: maybe like paying attention towards considering the way things could

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Speaker 2: go in the rest of the NFC. But I just

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Speaker 2: I just think in a situation where the Eagles are

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Speaker 3: Fine, but it's just show me something.

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Speaker 1: For like, almost every unit in this game has like

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Speaker 1: big questions because I hear you on that, but it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: how stuck in this mud? Is the Eagles offense? Really

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Speaker 1: Like this is a great way to find out. Saquon

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Speaker 1: Barkley's still getting hit, you know, behind the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: Like his yards per you know, in terms of contact

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Speaker 1: And Lane Johnson is potentially the best offensive lineman in

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Speaker 1: all of football and is out the next month. Their

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Speaker 1: center Cam Jurgens is not at practice on Wednesday, which

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Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson he's been better lately, but he was injured

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Speaker 1: early in the season, So like that's it's not that

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Speaker 1: good of a matchup necessarily in the middle. I just

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Speaker 1: I agree, I want to see it, but I want

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Speaker 1: to see it out of the Eagles offense too, because

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Speaker 1: I got the sense last week there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of passes from Jalen Hurts, who used to be the

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Speaker 1: most accurate quarterback on like throws downfield that just felt

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Speaker 1: like Will you shut up with the narrative balls where

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Speaker 1: he's not even trying to complete him. He's just trying

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Speaker 1: to He's just like throwing him up there just for

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Speaker 1: everyone to shut up. I don't really believe that he's

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Speaker 1: not trying to complete him, but it did just feel like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: you want some deep ball to them, I'll overthrow them

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Speaker 1: by fifteen yards.

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Speaker 2: On the album was having to play the win, he

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Speaker 2: was having to play the wind in that game where golf.

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Speaker 1: Look, I love my shut up, my shut up balls.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm calling That's what I wrote as my

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Speaker 1: nose shut up balls here, just like shut up, I'll

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Speaker 1: throw it. Want to workshop that one?

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Speaker 3: No, I like it.

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Speaker 2: Cure damn balls here damn.

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Speaker 3: But it's on the other side too, If I want

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Speaker 3: to workshop that one.

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Speaker 2: Tear Dawn.

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Speaker 1: So those numbers, the play action numbers, you know for

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, obviously, so much of that is is uh

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Speaker 3: I got to really workshop that one.

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Speaker 1: So I was going to say, it's like bc B

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Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips trade, how about BJPT that would be good.

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Speaker 3: No, I still think it needs to work on.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 3: I think we're having fun the here the Eagles. They've

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Speaker 3: had two games, two excellent games.

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Speaker 1: This is like a can you do it again against

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Speaker 1: this Cowboys offense?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. Like it's more of

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Speaker 3: a real test.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I love it. I still if I if

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Speaker 4: it came out, I guess I missed it. I still

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Speaker 4: don't know why the receivers missed the first series. Uh,

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Speaker 4: both both George Pickens and Ceedee Lamb. I assume that

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Speaker 4: won't be the case.

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Speaker 2: It was an organizational decision to have no context provided

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Speaker 2: about that. By the way, like everybody.

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Speaker 3: Said, it was like missing a meeting.

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Speaker 1: Uh, there was a report that made sense to me

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Speaker 1: that wasn't from a creditable reporter, but what the heck?

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Speaker 1: It just sounded so believable that they miss curfew. That's

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Speaker 4: Vegas, Oh in Vegas. Okay, well, you know, you know

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Speaker 4: it's easy police to miss.

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Speaker 2: Curve walks out there longer.

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Speaker 1: They got inspired by watching the Netflix Cowboys documentary.

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Speaker 3: They wanted to be more like IRV in the Gang.

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Speaker 4: I do love this test for the Eagle secondary for sure,

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Speaker 4: and I love the potential here. Like I said, you know,

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Speaker 4: they don't like I don't know why they don't like

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Speaker 4: to run play action with Dak Prescott. I know he

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Speaker 4: likes to see the field and some quarterbacks hate turning

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Speaker 4: their back to the defense. I understand all of that.

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Speaker 4: But he's completing eighty percent of his passes when he

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Speaker 4: has run play action, eight and a half yards per attempted,

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Speaker 4: nine touchdowns with no interceptions. I know I brought that

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Speaker 4: looking at maximizing advantages, where in the few areas that

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Speaker 4: this defense is a little bit weaker, you might try it.

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Speaker 4: You might give it a shot.

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Speaker 1: It really feels like it's a weekly can the opponent

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Speaker 1: attack of Dory Mitchell, you know, like Ann Jackson at

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Speaker 1: Tory Jackson and this.

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Speaker 4: Is the team still on PTBJ.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the team that would seem more able

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Speaker 1: to do that than just about anyone because Quinnion Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: I think, and that I had Mitchell on the brain.

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Speaker 1: He's having the first team All Pro type of thing. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think he is that dude, But hell, George Pickens

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Speaker 1: right now has more yards and Ceedee Lamb on the season,

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Speaker 1: even when they've played together, he has more yards. He's

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Speaker 1: I'm not ready to put George Pickens in an all

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Speaker 2: Be there, and the and the eye tests as well,

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Speaker 2: it's too much.

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Speaker 4: We love after he makes the catch and he sort

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Speaker 4: sort of just does this thing and he's so relaxed.

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Speaker 4: I saw someone a RAMS fan that I know really well.

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Speaker 4: I follow her on social media, and she she said,

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Speaker 4: every play that he makes looks like it was initially

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Speaker 4: a mistake or it's because but it's just it's magical,

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Speaker 4: like the way it's just like, no, he's not supposed

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Speaker 4: to be there right now, Oh my god, Yeah he is.

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Speaker 2: He's Rick Vaughan. He's effectively wild. If you're a guy

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Speaker 2: in the secondary and you're running towards George Pickens, like

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Speaker 2: when he cut seventeen yards towards the middle of the field,

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Speaker 2: you're like, what is he going to do? And sometimes

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Speaker 2: it looks.

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Speaker 4: Hilarious can happen?

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 1: The last month that's been justice for those of us

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Speaker 1: who had Jamo and George Picken one and two on

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Speaker 1: their twenty whatever year that was receiver list finally vindicated.

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Speaker 2: Let me go think the explosive guys, you want to

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Speaker 2: talk about explosive pass game? What about all Monday Night football?

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Speaker 2: The all time single game record holder for passing yards,

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young going up against a defense in the forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers who gave up the most completions to this

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Speaker 2: game in NFL history. Did Jacoby Brissett last week? And

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Speaker 2: the Niners are favored a month and nine. Wow, all

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Speaker 2: Joe Buck and Troy aik been there. Can Bryce do

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Speaker 2: it again?

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Speaker 4: Jordan? I, I think he could have some success against

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Speaker 4: this forty nine ers group. And in part of that

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Speaker 4: is because A, let's see him throw it seventy times, right, like,

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Speaker 4: let's just just go for it. And B Dave Canalis

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Speaker 4: is moving Tech McMillan around the stack. It's not just

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Speaker 4: that he's playing more in the slot, which Dave Canallis

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Speaker 4: as we have known, are have been Fred warnerless for

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Speaker 2: I love it. And a Christian McCaffery revenge game where

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Speaker 1: And I was thinking about it last week when Jalen

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Speaker 2: It's time for the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota. Let's

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Speaker 1: I think they'll look good because they've been as consistent

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Speaker 3: Let me. Let's hear from Baker.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's no way for me to you know,

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Speaker 5: I've told you guys that helped me find the football

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Speaker 4: Oh I love that. I was like, yeah, I get

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Speaker 4: He brought Sean McVay back. He brought several of those

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Speaker 4: He showed up and thirty hours later he was winning

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Speaker 3: But here it's more of like a.

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Speaker 2: up and down the field, and it's kind of a

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Speaker 2: similar situation here where you'd like to attack the Rams

438
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Speaker 2: on the ground, but the team's never going to be

439
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Speaker 2: as good as they're going to be unless Baker is

440
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Speaker 2: having that success through the air that he was having

441
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Speaker 2: earlier in the season and you get the big plays

442
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Speaker 2: you know from Tesz Johnson and Abuka, you know, and

443
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Speaker 2: maybe you know Chris Godwin and Bucky Irving are getting

444
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Speaker 2: closer to playing according to Todd Bowles in the middle

445
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Speaker 2: of the week here in week twelve, where we can

446
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Speaker 2: kind of see what they what they were like where

447
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Speaker 2: they were, but they're not doing it.

448
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Speaker 1: Unless and I don't think a Godwin is going to

449
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Speaker 1: be a difference maker for them just coming off that injury.

450
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Speaker 1: Mike Evans would be. It's just weird because tes Johnson

451
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Speaker 1: and Sterling Shepherd seem open. I think that's been the

452
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Speaker 1: biggest problems is he's hunting these big plays and he's

453
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Speaker 1: not taking the checkdowns that are there. He is thirty

454
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Speaker 1: first right now in success rate in the NFL when

455
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Speaker 1: he has not been pressured. The only quarterbacks behind Baker

456
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Speaker 1: Mayfield on the season are cam Ward JJ McCarthy and

457
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Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel. Three rookies essentially, and there seems like there's

458
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Speaker 1: open receivers there to be had, and he's been forcing

459
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Speaker 1: it a lot to abuka or holding it, and teams

460
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Speaker 1: have had success, you know, stopping him from runn at

461
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Speaker 1: least until last week.

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Speaker 4: If you're King Grizzard the Lizard Wizard and you're listening

463
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Speaker 4: to the show right now, you I think the way

464
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Speaker 4: you get Baker back to himself is to get him

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Speaker 4: involved in the running game and to get him to

466
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Speaker 4: hit him on some of those perimeter runs that the

467
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Speaker 4: Rams are susceptible to. And also to get your run

468
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Speaker 4: game on these toss runs toward the perimeters that the

469
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Speaker 4: Seahawks had a lot of success with, even as it

470
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Speaker 4: was tough sledding sometimes for them up the middle. Running

471
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Speaker 4: those old vintage Kubiak plays, you know, the Zoro toss

472
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Speaker 4: and all those perimeter toss runs really was effective. And

473
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Speaker 4: Baker is a perimeter runner too, and so I think

474
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Speaker 4: that's how you kind of get Baker Mayfield's juice back

475
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Speaker 4: and get him flowing and get him like I just

476
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Speaker 4: I just remember and watching it, it's like you almost

477
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Speaker 4: got to shake him out of his mind a little bit.

478
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Speaker 4: You got to shake him out of it and sometimes

479
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Speaker 4: taking a hit, getting a first down and taking a hit,

480
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Speaker 4: We'll do that, and I think that that's an effective

481
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Speaker 4: way to actually attack a RAMS defense that is going

482
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Speaker 4: to pressure the crap out of him and also be

483
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Speaker 4: very very difficult to run the ball on up the middle.

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Speaker 1: They really missed the son Reddick, who's possibly gonna be

485
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: back for this game, but it doesn't sound like it,

486
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Speaker 1: but his window could be open, and he really helped

487
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Speaker 1: them out because they are blitzing a ton and they're

488
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: not getting like a ton of pressure, and he was

489
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Speaker 1: really valuable for them. They might get Colijah Kanti back

490
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Speaker 1: for the playoffs potentially, but they just haven't quite been

491
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Speaker 1: the same. I'll be curious to see if Jameel Dean

492
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Speaker 1: plays in this game. He left with an injury last week.

493
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Speaker 1: He has been their best cornerback and they've just been

494
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Speaker 1: like it's come down to them just being like a

495
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Speaker 1: terrible red zone team for some reason on both sides

496
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Speaker 1: of the ball, Like they actually are profiling as a

497
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Speaker 1: better team than they've really shown up. But when other

498
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Speaker 1: teams get in the red zone, they score, and when

499
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Speaker 1: they get in the red zone, they don't score the

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Speaker 1: bad combination.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's take a break.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully we get a perfect little sequel up to that

503
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Speaker 1: Baker game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, or maybe fun either way.

505
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Speaker 3: Although you know what I think of the sequel to

506
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Speaker 3: that Baker game.

507
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Speaker 1: Was the fifty burger he put on the Broncos on Christmas.

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Speaker 3: That was like the sequel.

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Speaker 1: That was pretty fun too.

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Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily, Jordan is here, Patrick is here. Yes,

521
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Speaker 1: the Claymates are going crazy everywhere the clay Bon Bonds.

522
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Speaker 1: The Claymates won the contest of the Patrick Claybon Fan

523
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Speaker 1: Club how have you heard that the meetings have been

524
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Speaker 1: going lately of the clay Bon Vivan.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think people are deranged that they would associate

526
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Speaker 2: themselves with me. Anyway, I know they're having a bounce back.

527
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 2: It was too much yelling for me in last week

528
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Speaker 2: in general. But there's hey, we got no more early

529
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Speaker 2: early rise wake up.

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Speaker 3: That's true. We're done with the international slate.

531
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Speaker 2: So that that particular part of the bit is dead.

532
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Speaker 4: The way listeners, thank you, cross.

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Speaker 3: That off and uh international.

534
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Speaker 2: But I also love football here in most of Statosundo

535
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: where the Jacksonville Jaguars. Who I thought, Hey, so the

536
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: Chargers are going to go over to Jacksonville. No they

537
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 2: did not. Liam Cohen and squad said no. And they

538
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: are two and a half point favorites against again the

539
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Speaker 2: NFL's all times single game completions record holder Jacoby Brissette Jordan,

540
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Speaker 2: what does he have in store for us this week?

541
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Speaker 2: The over unders forty seven and a half. Spirodidas and

542
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Speaker 2: Adam Archiletta.

543
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Speaker 4: On the call man, It's just hard to trust the

544
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Speaker 4: Cardinals by about the halfway point of any season. Really,

545
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Speaker 4: If the Jaguars can run the ball the way that

546
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Speaker 4: they did last week. There's no shot for Arizona in

547
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 4: its game because they were just it was a very

548
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 4: depleted offensive line by the Chargers. I will say, while

549
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 4: they are not from the same coaching family per se,

550
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 4: there's some similarities in the type of matchup baszone coverages

551
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 4: that Jesse Minter likes to play and the matchup baszone

552
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 4: coverages that Jonathan Gannon likes to play. Liam Cohen and

553
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 4: his group just took the teeth completely out of that defense,

554
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 4: and they're feeling themselves right now.

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Speaker 1: And yet I don't have any particular faith of the

556
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: Jaguars will because this running game usually we talk about

557
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: like a quarterback's inconsistent, or like their running game is inconsistent.

558
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Speaker 1: If you've watched like five games this year, five certain

559
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: games they look like one of the best, coolest groups

560
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: in the league, and the other five they've stunk fun right,

561
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Speaker 1: And this is weirdly kind of the prove it game,

562
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Speaker 1: I think for the Jaguars, because I think I can

563
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: totally imagine them losing this game if you're going to

564
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Speaker 1: be a real serious team, if you're going to make

565
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Essentially, this game is a game that you

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Speaker 1: can and should win, and so I just want to

567
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Speaker 1: see it, like, I'm not sure it's going to happen.

568
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Speaker 3: I probably am gonna take the Cardinals. I don't know why.

569
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure why either, Greg, because I.

570
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Speaker 1: Because it just doesn't make sense, because the Cardinals shouldn't

571
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Speaker 1: be three and seven.

572
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Speaker 3: They're not this bad.

573
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: No they're not. But they've gotten worse yet they are.

574
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Speaker 3: It's true, they have gotten a lot worse.

575
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: Mac Wilson went to IR and it to the point

576
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Speaker 2: where even you, Greg were thinking the Seahawks had figured

577
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: out the run game because they were playing the Arizona

578
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 2: Cardinals and they're good on defense. But no, like that

579
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: was just not the case. And then Christian mccaffery's having

580
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: his best yards per carry performance of the season, and

581
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: so like either those two teams suddenly got much better

582
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: at running the ball or the Cardinals has just fallen

583
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Speaker 2: off the map on defense and not having a guy

584
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Speaker 2: who's been good in pass coverage as well with the

585
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: run fits he's the team captain, he's making the calls

586
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: as well. Where it's it's having a whole lot of

587
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: impact where I'm watching the way that and we'll see

588
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: if BASI will Tuton is able to play in this game,

589
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: but both of him and Etn, you could throw Trev

590
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: in there. If the Jags can run the ball against you,

591
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: that's the spot. So like, if they're gonna win any games,

592
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Speaker 2: I would take them to win this one.

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Speaker 4: Man. You know what was kind of cool was watching

594
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Speaker 4: that game last week and facial Tuton came out swinging

595
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 4: like he looked like a steam engine immediately and it

596
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Speaker 4: almost was like, you know, Threetn was like, okay, hold

597
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 4: my beer, like I'm gonna cut you know, and become

598
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 4: really this dominant one to punch, and I just I

599
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Speaker 4: loved it. I thought it was cool. You could see

600
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Speaker 4: them like a true two BAC system. You could see

601
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 4: them almost feeding off of each other's success prior to

602
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Speaker 4: the injury. I hope he plays. I'm in the Tutin

603
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 4: hive as as we know you were.

604
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: You were honking the Tuton' hive was was loud and

605
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: enjoying it and not happy when Etn came like back

606
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: into the game and then and then Tuton got hurt.

607
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Speaker 3: I think you just.

608
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 4: Want it all to everyone to be successful.

609
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: You were just like lean on to and we don't

610
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: need any of this Patrick.

611
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: Just now did Greg do that thing where he just

612
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: made up something that.

613
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Speaker 1: You like, you were you were you were wanting him

614
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Speaker 1: to carry the load. Uh, they're both limited, both limited,

615
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: So that's a good sign.

616
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Speaker 3: He's already limited. Pick him up. I do think he's

617
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: a good pickup.

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Speaker 1: I noticed he's available in uh both my kids leagues,

619
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Speaker 1: So I was like, Tutin.

620
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Speaker 2: I think they're both started.

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Speaker 3: Yeah in this game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you have them both, if you've got like

623
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Speaker 2: a handcuff situation, you've got tuting in the event that

624
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: ETN goes down, go ahead and put them both in

625
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: your line up this week, especially with all the boys.

626
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 3: I was watching that game Toton get to scootin. I

627
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: was watching that.

628
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Speaker 1: Game last week and Walter Nolan had another good game,

629
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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, oh, Kalayskam was playing pretty well, and

630
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: Josh Sweat's out there. They put a lot into this defense,

631
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Speaker 1: and you're right there, they're not stopping the run. It's

632
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Speaker 1: just it's just why I feel like at some point

633
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Speaker 1: they should win some games. Maybe they'll get back Trey Benson,

634
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: probably not this week, but he might come back. Jacoby Brissett,

635
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Speaker 1: despite all the eyeball like he looks like he's playing well,

636
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: and he's set in records. He's twenty nine out of

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Speaker 1: thirty three qualifiers in QBR. You know, there's like a

638
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Speaker 1: million different stats, but in QBR, which does penalize you

639
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: quite a bit for not being able to run, which

640
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: he can't and the turnovers that he's had which have happened.

641
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Speaker 1: You know, he's actually been significantly worse than Kyler Murray.

642
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Speaker 4: And he will not worth point out, he will not

643
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Speaker 4: have Marvin Harrison Junior back for another week after the

644
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 4: appendix surgery of two weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: Shout out Michael Wilson.

646
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Speaker 4: Yes, highly productive yet no touchdown.

647
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the seventh highest scoring Fantasy game of all time

648
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: by a receiver that didn't have a touchdown.

649
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: It's got to be the top by a receiver who's

650
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: definitely not the best athlete in.

651
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Speaker 3: His own family.

652
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Speaker 4: The Cardinals are also have been in his own marriage,

653
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 4: emrhaging running backs all year two. Demark Cardos now banged up.

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Speaker 4: They I mean this team is struggling. They're struggling.

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Speaker 2: Would you guys like to talk about to struggling football teams? Yeah?

656
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Speaker 3: I would.

657
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Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns are playing the Las Vegas Raiders, and

658
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: the Raiders are favored by three and a half point

659
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Speaker 2: what over under?

660
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Speaker 3: How I'm taking that?

661
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: It's thirty six and a half. Tom McCarthy and Ross

662
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: Tucker are all on the call as Greg. There are

663
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Speaker 2: clearly people in Las Vegas who have confidence with the Raiders, do.

664
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Speaker 3: You I do not.

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Speaker 1: I am doing a first which is you know, we

666
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: do our segments with Cynthia against the spread. It went

667
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: three and oh last week, seven straight winning weeks. I'm

668
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: previewing one of my picks here. Let's go Browns and

669
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: shoulder Sanders plus three and a half.

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Speaker 3: Let's listen to.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 7: I know our fans have a lot of expectations in Hope,

673
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Speaker 7: and I would be doing a disservice to myself, in

674
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 7: disservice to the organization if I didn't feel like I

675
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Speaker 7: am the guy all right.

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Speaker 1: He believes in himself. He was a very jovial press conference.

677
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: I watched a chunk of it. He's he always seems

678
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: happy to be there, which which I appreciate. Obviously, my

679
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: pick is not about Shaudur Sanders. It's partly about that.

680
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't think the passing game is gonna be demonstrably

681
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: different with him and Dylan Gabriel, Like, he might take

682
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: more sacks, he might have a couple more big plays.

683
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be good. It just it would be

684
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: surprising if it was good, even against the Raids. It's

685
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: just that we have literally the number one defense according

686
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: to DVA and the NFL playing for one of those teams,

687
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: and they're the underdogs in this game.

688
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: So I just feel better about that team.

689
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, and I think too the things that

690
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 4: even the Raiders are like, I don't want to even

691
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 4: say doing well because nothing is going well. They look

692
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 4: completely incompetent in every single phase. But the thing that

693
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 4: does work when things work is rock Bowers and using

694
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Speaker 4: more twelve personnel. Well, hey, the Cleveland Browns are perfectly

695
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 4: built to defend dynamic tight ends, especially across the middle

696
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 4: of the field because they have an absolute freak in

697
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 4: rookie linebacker Carson Swessinger, who you brought up earlier, making

698
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 4: plays like this. This is such a bad matchup, even

699
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 4: with the struggles on offense that the Browns have been

700
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 4: going through, Such a bad matchup if you're the Raiders,

701
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 4: because this defense can just absolutely smother you, and they

702
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 4: to win this game. They should score, and I think

703
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 4: they will score.

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Speaker 1: I misspoke, by the way, they're fifth in total efficiency.

705
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Speaker 1: I think it was maybe it was against the past

706
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: they were number one or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, Greg. Hopefully Cynthia doesn't pick up

708
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: a game on game deview on us because we were

709
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: both taking the road dog they come in there and win.

710
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: But to think about this game and what I'll hope

711
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: to talk about when we do game deview is there

712
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: was a third and one in this game where the

713
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: Raiders had two tight ends to the left and the

714
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: Cowboys were in zone like to the strength of the

715
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Speaker 2: formation on the other side, and there were no numbers,

716
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 2: and they run a toss to Ashton genty on third

717
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 2: and one and with no numbers, and he's tackled for

718
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: a four yard loss. And that was one of the

719
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: final Chip Kelly called runs of the game. And that

720
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: was in the third quarter where I don't know what

721
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: they're trying to do. I don't know what they want

722
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: to do, and I don't know if they have the

723
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Speaker 2: personnel to do what they want to do or what

724
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: they're what they're trying to do. It's it's bad all around.

725
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,479
Speaker 2: So yeah, they're not beat in Cleveland. Like we talked

726
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: in the earlier show about the Ravens and their issues

727
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 2: with finding Miles Garrett, who should be like the number

728
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: one priority. Now I'm asking this offensive line which is

729
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 2: even worse.

730
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Speaker 4: And reports kind of surfacing too about offensive lineman not

731
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Speaker 4: knowing their assignments and not knowing what the calls are,

732
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Speaker 4: and it's just like it's all bad and there's also

733
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: a disconnect. I was texting Greg about this, like, we

734
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Speaker 4: have eyeballs. We know that it would be really difficult

735
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Speaker 4: to run the ball behind this offensive line, regardless of

736
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Speaker 4: who you are as a running back, regardless of who

737
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Speaker 4: you are as a coordinator to call runs, it's just

738
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Speaker 4: not going to probably be very successful. At the same time,

739
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Speaker 4: Pete Carroll comes out there every week into the media

740
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 4: and A talks about how surprised he is that the

741
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Speaker 4: defense isn't playing better. I'm like, the roster is the

742
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 4: roster man. And then b comes out and says and

743
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 4: talks about how they need to run the ball more,

744
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 4: and I'm like, are you telling your offensive coordinator this?

745
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 4: Are you guys speaking to each other? Are you communicating

746
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 4: because it seems like there's just pockets of disconnect everywhere

747
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 4: in that building.

748
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Speaker 1: Right, And there's already reports kind of floating out there

749
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: that yeah, it could be a one and done for

750
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: Pete and for Chip. And then you know John Spytech,

751
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: who had that relationship. We had him on the show,

752
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, with Tom Brady on some level, who's the

753
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: general manager. His draft class, even if you look after

754
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: Ashton's mty, is contributing about as little as any draft

755
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: class in the entire NFL. Like they had two offensive

756
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: linemen they took in the third round that don't play

757
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: on this offensive line. Jack Besh was a second round

758
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: pick who's not really playing or contributing at wide receiver

759
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: like Darien Porter's at cornerback. And I'm sure he'd want

760
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: some of those guys to play more, you know, you

761
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: would imagine, but they're not even making it to the field.

762
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Speaker 1: This is a hot seat game for both the coaches,

763
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: although Kevin Stefanski is one to oh in hot seat

764
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: games this year, beating Mike McDaniel maybe in a blood.

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Speaker 4: Bath, maybe a tryout of sorts for Kevin st to fan,

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Speaker 4: that's that's spicy.

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Speaker 1: Last thing I want to say, shout out to Evan

768
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Speaker 1: Silva Adam Levittan do great work at a stat Much

769
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: to run great podcast. I was listening to them and

770
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Speaker 1: I thought they were under selling just a little bit

771
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Speaker 1: how good quin John Jenkins is. This is how good

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Speaker 1: I think Quinjohn Junkins is. I would take him over

773
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: at Ashton genty right now if I'm doing a redraft.

774
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: I think Gents is a good player and he'll have

775
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: a good career. I think Judkins is a special player.

776
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: They're both in bad situations, but I think Judkins has.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's spicy, that's very spice my take. Okay, I'm

778
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Speaker 2: gonna disagree with.

779
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: Not a huge shoots thing, but like, yeah, I'd take him.

780
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a great career.

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00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: We've got one more game. It's the Atlanta Falcons. It's

782
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: the New Orleans Saints. It's one of the best rivalries

783
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: in professional sports among the fan base, the teams is.

784
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes things get active there. The Saints are

785
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: favored by one and a half points. Get well soon

786
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 2: to Michael Pennock Junior, who was out for the remainder

787
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Speaker 2: of the season with a torn acl Adam I mean

788
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: and Drew Brees on the call, great.

789
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,479
Speaker 1: Drew Brees didn't mention I had his game last week.

790
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a segment that I think we're only

791
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: gonna do once, which is constructive criticism for Drew Brees.

792
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: And my my feedback would just be like, give us more.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

794
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 4: What do you mean though?

795
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Speaker 1: You know that's the sort of sort of meme like

796
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Speaker 1: like go girl, give us nothing.

797
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Speaker 2: You know, there's like.

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Speaker 4: I was just like early career, do a lipa.

799
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Speaker 2: But like after that meme do a lipa? Did begin

800
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Speaker 2: to give us?

801
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: She asked, she's a showman, so you're.

802
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: Trying to do what that famed comment or did for

803
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Speaker 2: Drew Brees.

804
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: And you know what, I want to be fair, very

805
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: low energy. You know how they say it's like, oh,

806
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: just be yourself when you're on TV. It's like, well,

807
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: not not totally. You want you want a little more

808
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: if you're low energy. I think even literally by the

809
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: end of that game, I do feel bad about this.

810
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 1: I think he was even perking up and getting more

811
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: into it by the end of the game.

812
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 3: But yeah, just give us more.

813
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: And because the Saints fans are going to be watching

814
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: and that's that's a great fan base, but not all

815
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: the Saints fans. I saw something our friend Adams sent

816
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: to us. They've lost Shreveport. Treeport's not even getting this game.

817
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: That's how bad the Saints are right now. They're getting

818
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys game like locally, and it is like West Louisiana,

819
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: which has a lot of Cowboys fans. Yeah, but I

820
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: don't think that's a normal thing that they're not getting

821
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: Falcon Saints in the state of Louisiana.

822
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: And Smitty's hometown and they're playing there is some of that.

823
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of Cowboys fans. I get it.

824
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 4: But you guys want to play like a very quick

825
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 4: guessing game. Sure, Okay, so we know the Falcons love

826
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 4: to blitz a lot, right, That's their favorite thing to do,

827
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 4: and it's a great way they're manufacturing pressure and Tyler

828
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: Schuck being the quarterback on the other side. How many

829
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 4: passes just put a number on it. Do you think

830
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 4: Tyler Shuck has so far completed against the.

831
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Speaker 2: Blitz three six?

832
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 4: Well, you both sold them a little shortly. Okay, passes

833
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 4: completed against the Buck It feels.

834
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Speaker 1: Like a lot for two games, Am I crazy or not?

835
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Speaker 2: Not?

836
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Speaker 3: Not A lot of games are.

837
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Speaker 4: Blitzing him a lot. Okay, So on twenty two blitzes

838
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 4: nine completions, So this is going to be another Hey,

839
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 4: is this an actual data set to follow or is

840
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 4: this something that he can solve and figure out that's important.

841
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 4: I don't think he's looked bad. Honestly, I don't think

842
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 4: he's looked bad. He won't have Brandon Cooks, who is

843
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 4: taking up a lot of the snap share. So Brandon

844
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 4: Cooks and the Saints mutually agreed to part ways, which

845
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Speaker 4: I know Greg had some thoughts about, I'm trying to

846
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 4: tea Greg up on his Loomis takes here. Wow, now

847
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 4: that we're handing out constructive criticism.

848
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Speaker 1: Look, we spent all last offseason saying the Saints cannot

849
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: move forward or last season and actually progress as a

850
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: franchise if they keep Mickey Loomis. There is no restart

851
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: with Nicky Loomis, and it's gotten even worse. Like that

852
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: was one of the craziest contracts in the entire NFL.

853
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: Who was bidding against them to pay Brandon Cooks like

854
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: seven point five guaranteed? Like this was easy to see coming.

855
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: I think they were able to get get out of

856
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 2: some of the guarantee well.

857
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Speaker 1: If someone else signed them, which we'll see. I want

858
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 1: to see if the Tyler Shuck stuff to be real.

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00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: I like it against the can carry over because I

860
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: don't know if like a lot of it was in

861
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Speaker 1: create mode, which was interesting. He is talented, but can

862
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: he do it in more of the structure of the offense.

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00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 4: And this is a better defense. This defense can really

864
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 4: turn it on. You know, everybody has to have a

865
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 4: good game. We were talking about Jesse Bates last week having

866
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 4: probably one of his poorer games in recent memory. But

867
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Speaker 4: this defense, they're getting pressure better. The rookie pass rushers

868
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Speaker 4: that they brought in are playing really well. So I

869
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Speaker 4: like the test for Tyler Shuck against this, this Falcons defense.

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Speaker 4: And on the other side of it, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: the Saints defense kind of is what it is at

872
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 4: this point, and we don't really know what a new

873
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 4: era of Kirk Cousins Falcons offense is going to look like.

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00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 2: And yeah, as Mike Triplett said, courtesy of Drew Christensen,

875
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Speaker 2: who did tell me that they got the two million

876
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: dollars removed from the guarantees, but Mike triplet reporting that

877
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: they weren't able to save those two million dollars.

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00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: There's some other money, yeah, but they still there were

879
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: seven point eight guaranteed. When it has the ED on it,

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00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: it's like they weren't really guaranteed. They still have to

881
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: pay them all that.

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00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing, and which is why we

883
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 2: should change the way we discuss guarantees because it can't

884
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: be in guaranteed. If it's guaranteed, then then that money

885
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 2: is going to the player no matter what conditional guarantees

886
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 2: is an oxymoron. Also, reaggravations of injuries is another thing

887
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 2: that I will discuss because Michael Pennix Junior was on

888
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: that report with a knee sprain and then he's playing

889
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: and now it's they're saying it's partially torn. If you

890
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: have a tear in your anterior cruciate ligament, you have

891
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: a torn aco. So my general question would be, how

892
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: did Michael Pennock Junior play games well the torn a

893
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: c L. That would be my question as he now is.

894
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: Season is over and the Saints are playing in this game.

895
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: So before we go, guys, since you both read the

896
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: famed final playoff game of Cameron Drell Newton, can you

897
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: name three of the players that he completed passes to

898
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 2: in that game.

899
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 4: Uh Kayln Clay, Wow, you.

900
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 2: Got Kayln Clay.

901
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: She covered the team. This isn't fair, Ted Gins no longer.

902
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: There we're past the gin Era at this point, trying.

903
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 3: To think who the tight end is for that team.

904
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Speaker 2: Ginn was actually playing for the Saints at the time.

905
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: Wow, Christian McCaffrey. Okay, oh yeah, that's a good one.

906
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Speaker 3: Jonathan Stewart, No, no, j stew Miss Jay Stewar.

907
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 4: How long ago.

908
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 3: Was crack?

909
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: Oh it's the he was in that game, bro, Like,

910
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: you guys are making fun of me.

911
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: Jonathan Stewart's on that team. Jordan, you covered that team

912
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: and you're coming at me for.

913
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: That seventeen right? Oh yeah, you're right. And then, oh

914
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 4: my gosh, it was the the short receiver that returned

915
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 4: a punt for them one time.

916
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Speaker 2: God, I don't remember Briton person.

917
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Speaker 4: Oh but also you could have except forgot about the.

918
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Speaker 2: Guy that's going to be in the call of the

919
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 2: Minnesota and Green Bay game because g Reg was still playing.

920
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 4: Oh when but Greg had a Liz Frank right? Was

921
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 4: that the same? No? That was a year later, damn it.

922
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Speaker 2: Now he had eight cashes for one hundred and seven yards.

923
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 4: I missed the list because I was gonna guess Greg,

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Speaker 4: and then I was like, no, I remember standing at

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Speaker 4: a Lockcraft got the Liz Brank So I missed it

926
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Speaker 4: by a year.

927
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, that that's how much sitt't right. They

928
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Speaker 2: we're looking forward to this Kirk Cousins versus Styler.

929
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Speaker 1: Shock that was actually pretty talented offense, Greg Alson, Jonathan Stewart,

930
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. Just a complete vacuum at the other important I'll.

931
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Speaker 2: Get britten person out there some routes.

932
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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I had wiped the memory bretton Erson.

933
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Speaker 3: From Falcon Saints.

934
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Speaker 1: I'm going to be assigning that to myself because that

935
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Speaker 1: is one of the rules that I've lived by on

936
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Speaker 1: both the Around the NFL podcasts and NFL Daily is.

937
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: At one time I missed a classic Saints Falcons and

938
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Speaker 1: I said never again because they always delivered.

939
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Speaker 3: So it's Drew Brees this weekend.

940
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: It is go girl after you're coaching.

941
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Speaker 3: That's it for week twelve.

942
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Speaker 1: And look, by the next preview show, the season will

943
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Speaker 1: be just about to start, because the season starts at

944
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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving according to Bill partselves, but the MVP of conversation

945
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Speaker 1: is already rolling. We are too. We will be back

946
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Speaker 1: on Thursday night. It's going to be Jordan, Rod Brieg

947
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Speaker 1: and Nick Shook doing the recap for a big Bills

948
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Speaker 1: and Texans game.

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Speaker 3: We got some extra programming this week.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to debut, but until then, football's back.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while.