1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: What's up everybody walking to move the stick? DJ? Bucky 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: here with you? Buck? How you doing, man, Man, I'm good? 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Another another damn paradys. We got football claiming, we get 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: NFL teams and camp will begin to see some footage, 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: and some of that footage is not just guys doing wins. Friends. 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: We begin to see like some little football actions. So 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm excited. Yeah, no, it's uh, it's exciting time. We've 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: got the opt out deadline uh quickly approaching here, So 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna know here in the next twenty four hours 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: who's in who's out for the upcoming NFL season. I know, uh, 12 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: some teams are are biting their fingernails here, hoping out, 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: holding out. Hope. That's some of these big name guys 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: that you've heard some rumors about that they're gonna stick 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: with it here. But we'll know more in the next 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: twenty four hours there in Uh. On today's episode, Buck, 17 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to somebody who's trying to navigate these waters. Uh, 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: and that's Buffalo Bill's general manager guy you worked with 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: there in Carolina, Brandon Bean who has done a really 20 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: phenomenal job of turn around that organization. Yeah, phenomenal job. 21 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: His job. He has a great story because he comes 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: from a non traditional background to be a guy that 23 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 1: is a general managing, a decision maker in the league. 24 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: When we were together, he was a guy that was 25 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: in football operations, handling travel, organizing training camp and those things. 26 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: And so to see him climb the ladder and become 27 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: a guy that's at the top of the franchise, it's 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: a remarkable journey and I can't wait to share a 29 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: little bit with him. Yeah, we've got that interview coming 30 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: up shortly here. Then we're going to answer some of 31 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: your questions. We've been asking you guys to leave us 32 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: a review and and and throw some questions on there 33 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts and the review sections. So we've got 34 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: some of those questions to those following the interview with 35 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean Why, I say, we just get right to it. 36 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: But this is a fun conversation. I think everybody's gonna 37 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: enjoy listening to the man who's pulling the strings there 38 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills, a team that was in the 39 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: midst of a seventeen year playoff drought, before he and 40 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: his head coach Sean McDermott showed up and got things 41 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: turned around. Here's our conversation with Brandon Bean. Alright, but 42 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm excited to have our good friend joining the show. 43 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: He's general manager of the Buffalo Bills. Brandon Being and 44 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: Brandon we have we have a lot we want to 45 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: cover with you in terms of what's going on in 46 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: scouting world, what's going on trying to navigate your way 47 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: through this pandemic. But I've never had a chance to 48 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: ask you this question, so I want to knock it out. 49 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: What the heck did you say to get kicked out 50 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: of a junior high basketball game as a coach as 51 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: a seventeen year old? Well? Is this a is this 52 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: an ex M show? Feel free? We got a buzzer, 53 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: we could buzzer. I said some stuff my mother wouldn't 54 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: be happy with, but I learned a quick lesson, and uh, 55 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: my a D told me, he said, if you ever 56 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: want to coach again, uh, don't ever get kicked out. 57 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: So he's been around me. Basketball be a little hot 58 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: in once in a while. Being So you and I 59 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: go all the way back to our time with the 60 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. You have a what I would say, a 61 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: remarkable journey to the GM spot. Can you just kind 62 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: of take us through your journey how you worked a 63 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: way up the ranks to become a guy that eventually 64 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: is a team decision maker. Yeah, you know, obviously an 65 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: untraditional path. I started in football operations and kind of 66 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: worked my way through there and and became Marty Hernie's 67 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: right hand man. And and as you know, Marty is 68 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: great to work with and he'll he'll let you He's 69 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: not a micro manager. He's gonna give you what you 70 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: you know, what you need to do, and he'll let 71 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: you do it. And if you can do it, he'll 72 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: keep you around if you know, if you can't do it, 73 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: and then it doesn't work. But um, you know, from 74 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: there I went to director of Football Ops and then um, 75 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, had the unfortunate part of Marty being fired. 76 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: You know, we started one in five and two thousand twelve, 77 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: which was Cam's second year. You know, Cam and played 78 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: so well, expectations rose and and you know we just 79 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: stumbled out of the gate that year. I think we 80 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: were a better squad one in five and Mr Richards 81 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: decided to make a change, and um, I was shocked. 82 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: You know, he had no idea nothing was going on, 83 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: that Marty would be let go. And he calls me 84 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: on a Monday morning we lost to Believe to the 85 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys the day before. He calls me in his office 86 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: seven thirty Bucky. I've been in that building since nineteen 87 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: in his office before. So I said this can't be good. 88 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: And I walked over there thinking, uh, I didn't have 89 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: a playbook, but I'll say and so he had a 90 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: sheet of paper and down and just said it was 91 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: written one in five and he told me where to 92 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: sit and he kind of said do you understand what 93 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: this means? And and I said, uh, I said yes, 94 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: it's not good enough, sir. And and we talked for 95 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: about five minutes before he said, um, you know, I 96 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: relieved Marty was duties. And I was like, okay, and 97 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: and does that mean I'm getting relieved? In my dudes, 98 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: I thought he was just going down the down the 99 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: chain here. And he said, I want you to take 100 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: over for the rest of the year. And I was 101 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: just like wow. It was a surreal moment. Um And 102 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: So talked to him for about twenty minutes, and uh. 103 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: The first person I went and called. When I got 104 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: to my office, I shut the door and I called 105 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: Marty and I'm like, Marty, what's going on? You all right? 106 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: And he was. He was so great, Marty, such a 107 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: humble person, and he was like, Brandon, is your time, 108 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: go enjoy this. I'm here for you. Um, this is 109 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: what's best for everybody right now. And um, so joined 110 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: on with Ron there and and you know, we finished 111 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: that year six and four. I was hoping to get 112 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: a chance to keep that, but they brought in Dave Gentleman, 113 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: and I love Dave. He's a great man. And we 114 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: messed well. And uh he gave me the assistant GM 115 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: title a couple of years later, and um, you know, 116 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: you feed off the team success. We had that fifteen 117 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: in one season, go to the the super Bowl, and um, 118 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: that's how your name gets out there. And then I 119 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: got a shot, um, you know, to come up here 120 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: to Buffalo right when you when you get up there 121 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: to Buffalo. It was a tall order taking over that 122 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: franchise for where they've been, the playoff drought, all those 123 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: things you talked about. Everybody talks about. You're gonna come 124 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: into a place, You're gonna help change the culture. Was 125 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: there a moment with you and Sean where you kind 126 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: of realized at some point in the process, Okay, we 127 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: kind of see the light here. We're starting to get 128 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: some traction with the changes that you were making. Yeah, 129 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: you know, early on, we made some tough decisions. You know, 130 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: we traded Sammy Watkins, traded Um Darby to the Eagles, 131 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I know the locker room was 132 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: looking as because we didn't want to lose. You know, 133 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: we felt like we don't want to set this fundamental 134 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: word okay with losing, and and we followed that up 135 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: with trying to get some players back. You know, we 136 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: got uh Matthews, the receiver from Philly back, and E. J. Gaines, 137 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: some guys that had played and played snaps and you know, 138 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: Sean and his staff did a great job that year. 139 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: But we started out um, I don't know, maybe five 140 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: and two something like that, and then we hit a 141 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: skid and it was like, okay, the real Bills are 142 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: here we go and and Seawan did a great job 143 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: and the staff and of rallying those guys and uh, 144 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: it's weird. It was after you know, we started Nathan 145 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: Peterman at the Charger game, and obviously that didn't go well, 146 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: and Tyrod Taylor came back in the next week, and 147 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: Tyrod handled it great and came back and we finished 148 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: the season strong. Got a little help from the Bengals 149 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: that last week to get in and when we got in, Um, 150 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: not only in this building, but in this community, it 151 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: was such a huge hurdle. And I don't think Shawn 152 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: and I knew the weight of that until we saw 153 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: people literally crying because they had been seventeen years. And 154 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, Bucky, I know you were drafted here, so 155 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: you know what this city is about. And UM, I 156 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: got chills in my spine thinking about watching people in 157 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: bars breaking down, like just getting on their knees. It 158 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: was just like, man, this is unbelievable. You know, being 159 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: you and I go back, so I kind of know 160 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: how you built. I've never necessarily spent time with Sean McDermott, 161 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: but I believe you guys are kind of joined at 162 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: the hip in terms of the way you guys view 163 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: team building and the guys that you bring into the team. 164 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: And I think it's reflective of the Western New York community. 165 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: When I look at your team, I see a tough, 166 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: hard working, blue collar team. Is that kind of how 167 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,559 Speaker 1: you guys wanted to fashion the coach in the locker room? Yeah, 168 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: you know, it really is. We're you know, Shawn's um, 169 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: he's a wrestling background, played at William and Mary. He's 170 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: blue collar. I come from the middle of the country 171 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: in North Carolina, so very blue collar. And and you 172 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: know what's funny is uh Derek Boyko, URPR director, pointed 173 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: this out. And our media guy, they do these interviews 174 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: and they ask you these random questions just get to 175 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: know you. And one of the questions that Sean and 176 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: I had that we didn't know was what are you 177 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: most proud of? And both of our answers was we 178 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: didn't know anybody to get in the league. You know, 179 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: we got in our own. We didn't have a connection 180 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: and uh. He pointed that out to to us both 181 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: and it was it was interesting that we answered the 182 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: same way. So I think just working for everything you 183 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: get is the type of player we want. And we 184 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: talk about earning the right here and nothing's given. We 185 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: don't care. Uh. Levi Wallace has played a lot of 186 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: snaps for US as an undrafted players. We don't play 187 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: the most expensive players. We don't play the highest draft picks. 188 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: We played the best fifty three or the best of 189 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: eleven on each side of the ball. And and I 190 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: think our guys realized that they've seen it over the 191 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: three years we've been here, that that's how we do business, 192 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: and I think it brings respect. Well. You know, there's 193 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: been books written Brandon talking about from good to great? 194 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: How do you guys make that leap? How do you 195 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: guys get from where you are right now to take 196 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: that next step? Yeah, that's a great question, Dan, It's 197 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: it's it's one of those things where you don't even 198 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: though you know you're progressing. You made the playoffs, you 199 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: don't relax, you don't rest on your laurels. You still 200 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: got to get better every day because making the playoffs 201 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: is not a goal around here. And that was that 202 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: goes back to our first year. As happy as we 203 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: were to make the playoffs, we didn't win a playoff game, 204 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: and so we made sure the standard is not to 205 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. It's playoff caliber every day. And when 206 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: we make the playoffs, this championship caliber. And so that's 207 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: the messages. Again. We we had every chance to win 208 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: that game, in Houston last year. You know, we just 209 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: we couldn't pull it off. We didn't score enough points 210 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: in the first half. We settled for field goals, and 211 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: so we still have a lot of work to do 212 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: as a team to make the step where we want 213 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: to go, and we gotta win the division. We you know, 214 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: nobody's knocked off the Patriots, and uh, we've said it 215 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: all offseason. Expectations have risen, of course, but at the 216 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: end of the day, we have to win the a 217 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: f C East and that's that's kind of our mantra 218 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: right now. You know, it's funny that you bring it 219 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: up because when I was there in the mid nineties, 220 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: death is what Marv Levy always talked about owning the division. 221 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: And one way you guys can own a division if 222 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: your young quarterback, Josh Allen takes another step. What have 223 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: you seen from Josh? Are you optimistic about him being 224 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: able to take that next step this year? Yeah, you know, 225 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: we definitely were very confident in him and Josh is 226 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: is I tell people all the time. Obviously he has 227 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: his critics out there from the day he was drafted 228 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: to his rookie year playing and even last year. You know, Uh, 229 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: he was a big part of our success. And you know, 230 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: it's funny some of the people that Houston game. He 231 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: he's the reason we had a chance in that game. 232 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: Did it was everything perfect? No? And uh still he's 233 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: got his critics pointing out what he did wrong instead 234 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: of what he did to get us even back into 235 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: overtime and uh and we had even a chance and overtime. 236 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: And but Josh came in that next day. We kind 237 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: of do a self assessment with each player, and some guys, 238 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: you know, they're a little bit clueless of what they 239 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: need to work on. Josh was reeling stuff off before 240 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: we could ever speak of. You know, he's self aware 241 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: and knowing what he's got to do better. And again 242 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: he's his on worst critic, and I think he addressed that. 243 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: This offseason. He works out with Jordan Palmer, you know, 244 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: out there on the West Coast, and um, you know, 245 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: he worked on some of the things. Probably the biggest 246 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: thing this past season he missed was the deep ball. 247 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: He didn't connect enough. And you know, hopefully adding digs 248 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: and John Brown, you know, year two will be able 249 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: to connect on on more of those. He did hit 250 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: John on a few of them last year, but probably 251 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: missed more uh than we would have liked. But still 252 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: last year improved his decision making. He imclude improved in 253 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: uh turnovers, not turning over you know, just some of 254 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: the things taking what the defense gave him. Year one, 255 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: he was trying to show off that can and he's 256 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: got trying to fire it in a you know, a 257 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: twenty two yard whole, uh, about the size of a 258 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: golf ball. And uh, last year he did a much 259 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: better job of taking what the defense gives him. So 260 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: our goal is continued to do that and then hit 261 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: some of these deep balls. You mentioned Stefon Diggs there 262 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: for a second. What went into the thought process there, Brandon? 263 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: And does this feel like kind of you know, maybe 264 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: one of those moves that can get you over that 265 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: hurdle that you guys are facing right now. Yeah, you 266 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: know Stefan I scouted him when I was in Carolina 267 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: at Maryland. I remember the game I was at. He 268 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: was at South Florida and their quarterback play wasn't that 269 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: good that year, so that he was open. Sometimes you 270 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: see him making great mosa and they couldn't get him 271 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: the ball. But they also had him as a kick returner. 272 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: You could see how dynamic he is and and obviously 273 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: followed him in Minnesota and he's been such a big 274 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: play guy for them. And that's what we missed last year. 275 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: We kept having to go down the field ten plays 276 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: and eleven plays twelve place. We weren't getting that to play, 277 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: you know, sixty five yard touchdown drive and those those 278 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: takes some pressure off. It's hard to go ten twelve 279 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: plays every time. And again that's what happens in Houston 280 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: to us. In Houston, we had some penalties or a 281 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: sack or a loss, you know, lost yard is played 282 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: something like that to get us behind the sticks and 283 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: it's tough to recover. We settled for field goals. So 284 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: hopefully Stefan will will bring that big play element and 285 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: also free up you know, John Brown a little bit. 286 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people don't pay a lot 287 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: of attention or give your defense kudos for playing to 288 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: the level that they played at. But you have two 289 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: young stars and I'm really excited to watch continue to 290 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: kind of climbed the charts into the terms of the 291 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,599 Speaker 1: elite desk. Tore Davis White and Tremaine Evans. Both of 292 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: those guys are fantastic. When I look at them on tape, 293 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: what do you guys see for them? How excited you 294 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: to see them played this season? Yeah, I mean there, 295 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: you nailed it and there. Uh it starts with their habits. 296 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: These guys, Uh, they work hard, they're they're very you know, 297 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: Tremaine is just a huge specimen. You guys have seen 298 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: him up close. It's it's amazing. Uh. A j Climb 299 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: who we signed this off season. This was the first 300 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: time he was able to come in the building and 301 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: he I was talking to him and Shawn and he 302 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: was like, I cannot believe how big Tremaine Evans is. 303 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: I've seen him from Afar, but he was like, Wow, 304 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: But Tremaine's really coming into his own. You know, first 305 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: year we had Kyle Williams still here, so Kyle was 306 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: kind of leader the defense. Last year, Lorenzo Alexander was 307 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: slowly passing that torch. This defense is Tremaine's and and 308 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: I was really proud of him. He you know, he 309 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: had some guys down in Virginia. He and Josh Norman 310 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: set it up and uh, kind of like the quarterbacks 311 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: do with receivers, they did it with our defensive. You 312 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: know backs or whatever, and just um, you can see 313 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: his his calmness that he's willing to step up. Tremaine 314 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: is an unassuming guy, but he's slowly turning into that. 315 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he's Luke Keikley, but Luke was 316 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: that way early. Luke was deferring to Thomas Davis, Charles 317 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: Johnson and those guys. And you slowly start to see 318 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: Luke start to voice his opinion more and more, you know, 319 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: as he gained his own confidence, and hopefully Tremaine will 320 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: continue to do that. And then trade Avius. You know 321 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: what a year he had last year. Uh, he made 322 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: some big plays at big moments for us. I mean 323 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: the Dolphins had us on the roads here going in 324 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: and Trade Avius jumps a route, picks it off on 325 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: the two yard line. If if we go down there, 326 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: it was in the third quarter, if we're down two 327 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: scores at that point, it's a home crowd. You know, 328 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: the energy was kind of it sucked out of it. 329 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: If he didn't make that play, we might not win 330 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: that game. And then the Pittsburgh game, he had a 331 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: couple of interceptions on that Sunday night game that sealed 332 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: our playoff fate, so six picks and you know he 333 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: was it was glad. I was glad to see his 334 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: peers and the media. Um. You know, Buffalo is a 335 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: small community. We don't get a lot of national pub here, 336 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: but it was it was super awesome that he got 337 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: voted to All Pro team last year. And I think 338 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: now that people are aware, I think they'll they'll be 339 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: focused on even more. There's there's nothing better the way 340 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: he played last year and the way he's continued to 341 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: get better throughout his young career. I want to switch 342 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: gears with you a little bit here, Brandon, as we 343 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: as we look at what's going on to college level 344 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: and you're trying to manage the staff, a scouting staff 345 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: first of all, Um, you know what is the plan 346 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: right now? Is this gonna be a it's gonna be 347 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: a scout from home fall for for your college scouts. 348 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: What does it look like? Yeah? Right now? I mean 349 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: it's it's frustrating. You know, you guys both know what 350 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: it's like. Your your geared, Uh, you know, go to 351 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: training camp for a little bit and then and then 352 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: get on the road and so um, these guys as 353 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: are unfortunately working from home right now, you know, until 354 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: we wait and see what happens with the college season. 355 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: So we're just kind of having them work through their guys, 356 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: watch the tape, go through your schools and basically look 357 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: at last year's film and maybe even the year before 358 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: if you don't have enough from last year. And and 359 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: we're even doing it for the underclassmen because um, you know, 360 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: some of these schools are shutting down. We're seeing some 361 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: guys choose to opt out, and so we've got to 362 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: be ready for whatever. We're gonna try and watch as 363 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: much tape as we can, and then um, if we 364 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: get the go ahead to go to certain conferences or 365 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: certain schools, um, you know, we'll work out our way there. 366 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm hopeful. You know, we have these tier one, tier two, 367 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: Tier three's here. You know we have this in the NFL, 368 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: this tier three, oh a where you know, a scout 369 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: or someone can come, they don't have to be tested, 370 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: and they can stand X number of yards away. I'm 371 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: kind of hopeful that the colleges will adopt something like 372 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: that to where our scout or myself or whoever could 373 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: go to a practice stand x number yards away with 374 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: a ask on not be around any of their people, 375 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: especially if it's an outdoor practice, which you know, the 376 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: CDC seems to seem to say as the safest. So um, 377 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: hopefully that will still happen. You know, we're crossing our fingers. 378 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: A live look, as we all know, is the best look. 379 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: So um, if not, until then, we'll just you know, 380 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: we'll watch tape and well, you know, if we don't 381 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: go to colleges, our our boards gonna be ready sooner 382 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: than ever, you know we're talking about, we might be 383 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: in a really good position in October to start going 384 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: to do you know, and and that being you you 385 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: mentioned some of the college players that are opting out, 386 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: and some of these guys are big time players. Without 387 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: that final season of film, are you confident? Are you 388 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: okay with just going off of what they displayed to 389 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: this point, because that's all you have to evaluate. Yeah, 390 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it is what it is. I mean, 391 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that let's let's just say some schools don't play, 392 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: or conferences don't play. I'm hopeful that some you know, 393 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: things are better when we get these all star games, 394 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: whether it's East West, NFL p A or Senior ball. 395 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: And I'm hopeful that maybe there's a rule where we 396 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: can get some of these underclassmen in that that would 397 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: be willing to play. Now, if it's an automatic first 398 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: round er, he's probably not gonna play anyhow, but there's 399 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, these days, we're getting underclassman that our mid 400 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: round picks or or later. So I'm hoping if it's 401 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: an underclassman that just wants to come out and he's 402 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: gonna be a mid to late round pick, maybe we 403 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: can find a way to give him in one of 404 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: these All Star games so we can not only see 405 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: him up close, but you know, it's good to we 406 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: can visit with him and talk to him and kind 407 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: of get the normal a little bit. It's it's gonna 408 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: be as it has been at the NFL level. It's 409 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: gonna be another unorthodox year here um with the college game. 410 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: One of the things we kicked around kind of an 411 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: idea session on our podcast of the day. We're kind 412 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: of spitballing of how to get looks on guys if 413 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: there is no season. So one of the things we 414 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: talked about was you have these training facilities where these 415 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: kids are all going to navigate and go work. Now 416 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: it's been illegal for for NFL teams to go to 417 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: those facilities and check those guys out. But maybe there's 418 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: a way you can have an opportunity, you know, maybe 419 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: it's one day a month where you could have even 420 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: if it's just one representative of National or Blessed or 421 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: what have you, to come in there and be able 422 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: to get some measurements on these kids, to get some 423 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: eyes on them. You don't have to watch him watch 424 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: run forties, but just watch him move around a little bit. 425 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,239 Speaker 1: And Bucky even had the idea of, man, you know, 426 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: this is kind of a year for the Regional Combine 427 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: to kind of, uh to be a thing, you know, 428 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: to get a chance to see these guys, and we 429 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: could do it in the fall if if for some 430 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: reason we don't want to see it, but for some 431 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: reason the season got canceled. Just to get a chance 432 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: to get some eyeballs on these guys. Yeah, that's a 433 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: great idea. Uh, And you're right about the Regional Combine 434 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: stuff is would be huge this year. There's I mean, 435 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: there's so many guys that are gonna fall through the cracks. Um. 436 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: I mean, probably the biggest disappointment on the other end 437 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: of that is you know, right now we're having a 438 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: pair of roster down the eight. You know, we got 439 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents that were having to move on from 440 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: that never surely got to put the helmet on. And 441 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, so it's gonna be interesting this next year 442 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: of how many of those guys can get another shot 443 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: next season and then you're gonna add on this draft 444 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: class plus you know, another set of undrafted guys. It's 445 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be a lot of guys that you're 446 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: talking about next year that nobody's gonna have eyes on, 447 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: you know, for over a year potentially if they don't 448 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: play this year. You know, it's it's it's it's really unfortunate, 449 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: um being in in terms of like going forward the spring. 450 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: If these teams are playing in the spring, because we've 451 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: had the IVY League and some of these teams commit 452 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: to playing spring football, how would that change your evaluation 453 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to moving up the timeline, because we 454 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: know the draft is tifically ill at the ind of April. 455 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: If they're playing in the spring, have you already kind 456 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: of talked about a playing to get those guys evaluation 457 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: and looked at Yeah, I mean, we're definitely we would 458 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: love to scout those guys and and hopefully it works. 459 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: I'll be great because maybe there's some schools, these ivy 460 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: leagues that we don't get to as much in the 461 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: fall because we're focused on the SEC you know, Big ten, 462 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: a CC, whatever. So I'm hoping some of these power 463 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: fives will play, you know, even if it's a condensed 464 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: schedule this fall and then May, we can get to 465 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: some of these Nonpower five schools a little bit more 466 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: and find a diamond in the rough. So uh, there 467 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: there could be a blessing in that if it worked out. 468 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: I just hope they played early enough in the spring. Um. 469 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: I haven't seen the exact schedule, but I hopefully, you know, 470 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: they get started at least by you know, late February, 471 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: early March, at least in camps where maybe we can 472 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: go to some of these schools and watch these guys. 473 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: It's again, this spring calendar is gonna be There's gonna 474 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: be a lot in it when you think of of 475 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: the combine, uh, the All Star Games, assuming those happen, 476 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: and then the spring, you know, the spring seasons you 477 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: know for these college programs. Yeah, there's no nothing to 478 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: prepare anybody for what's going on right now, trying to 479 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: navigate through all these different situations. Man, last question for me. 480 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: Thank You've been great with with us, giving us so 481 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: much time today. But you mentioned a little bit earlier 482 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: talking about Josh Allen working with Jordan Palmer, and we 483 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: get a chance to go over there and watch those 484 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: guys train. He's there with Sam Donald. I know at 485 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: one point time they were living together. Do you do 486 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: you use Josh as a secret double agent? Hum? Sam 487 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: is really struggling thrown to his left. Man, if we 488 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: could somehow just force him that way. Yeah, I told 489 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: him to learn how to like bug his room, see 490 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: if he's talking to Coach gay So about the plan 491 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 1: or uh, you know, jump on a FaceTime with him 492 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: or something. But no, he's uh, that's that's a cool 493 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: little rivalry. Those guys got big respect and uh, you know, 494 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: I got to spend a lot of time with Sam 495 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: in that pre draft process, and what a great young 496 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: man he is. Uh. I wasn't excited for him to 497 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: come into the end of the division. But other than that, 498 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, he's a he's a kid you root for. Um. 499 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: He's such a humble young man and Josh loves him 500 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: to death. They they got a great little rivalry going. 501 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: I think they've beat each other once, maybe when they've 502 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: both been on the field, because sometimes one has been 503 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: on the field and the other hasn't. Um So hopefully 504 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: that's uh, you know, hopefully he works out for them 505 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: for a long time, and hopefully Josh does as well 506 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: and and becomes one that we talked about in the 507 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: NFC East for years. That's awesome, man, brand, Thank you 508 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: so much for your time. Do we appreciate it. Stay 509 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: stay healthy out there. You too good to see you guys, 510 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: Keep in touch. You name me, let me know, well, Buck, 511 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot to unpack their uh you could tell 512 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: he's he's you know him from having worked with them, 513 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: and I've got to know him a little bit through 514 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: through this process. But man, Buck, he's just got a 515 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: great personality. He's easy to get along with. But he 516 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: has a clear vision and identity of what he wants 517 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: for his football team. And I think that's the reason 518 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: you've seen this thing get turned around in Buffalo. Yeah, 519 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: I think so, And I think a couple of things. 520 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: I think in Carolina he was around two Super Bowl teams. 521 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: Now we didn't win at all, but he saw the 522 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: process and those teams are kind of built in the 523 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: same way that the Buffalo Bills are constructed. UH tough, 524 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: hard working teams that were more defensive oriented, with the 525 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: dynamic quarterback that can make some plays, and that formula 526 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: and recipe has worked for them. I love the synergy 527 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: between he and Sean McDermott. I believe they view football 528 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: through the same lens, and I think the players that 529 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: they have on the roster, particularly their key players, kind 530 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: of a reflection of them in that community. And so 531 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: I just like where they're trending. The key will be 532 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: this year. Because you talked about winning the division. It 533 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: is different being the hunter than being the hunted. Everyone 534 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: has annointed them as the favors to win the a 535 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: f C East and that is a different level of expectation. 536 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: You know from your time with Baltimore and Philadelphia UM, 537 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: when teams view you as the standard, those games are 538 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: a little different because they're measuring themselves against you because 539 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: if they can knock you off, it means that they 540 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: feel like they're a playoff team. Well, Buffalo has never 541 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: had to do that part of it. Now they're having 542 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: to face that pressure each and every week. It will 543 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: be interesting to see if they're mature enough to fend 544 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: off the competitors and the challengers that come at them 545 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: and come at them hard this year. And look, I 546 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: think everybody admits that to win a championship the way 547 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: the games played right now, you gotta be able to 548 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: throw the ball more efficiently than Buffalo has done. It's 549 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: just it's the way the games played. But I will 550 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: say on the other side of that, to me, the 551 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: best way to be a consistent playoff team. I'm not 552 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: talking about a championship caliber team, but a playoff team. 553 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: We always say it, right, if you can, if you 554 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: can really great defense, you can defend the run. And 555 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: that sounds old school and analytic people hate it. You're 556 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: gonna win nine games every year minimum, because you're not 557 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: gonna we say it all the time. Game more games 558 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: are lost than one. You're not going to give away games. 559 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: You're going to be over five. Now that the challenges, 560 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: can you take that defense, your physical that identity you 561 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: have on offense and now be a little more efficient 562 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: the passing game. Now we can go from being a 563 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: nine ten win team to maybe being a championship caliber team. 564 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: I love the point that you make because I do 565 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: believe and I believe this formula works forever. If you 566 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: can run the ball and play defense, that will get 567 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: you to nine. But if you want to get in 568 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: the twelve, third team, four team, you have to be 569 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: able to make explosive plays in the passing game, um 570 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: putting points up in the board. That's where the passing 571 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: games comes into play. You score through the air, you 572 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: dominate and control of the game through the ground, and 573 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: so you need to be able to do both. But 574 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: you need to be able to be efficient with the 575 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: passing game. So you can't take advantage of those explosive 576 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: plays when the deepense is over committed to the run. 577 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: And being talked about that when he said we're having 578 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: these ten and eleven play drives, the odds are against 579 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: you being able to sustain those drives. In football, you 580 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: have to be able to get some quick straight touchdowns 581 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: to be able to put up big points on the board. Yeah, 582 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: those chunk plays another thing to unpack from there. I 583 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: know I get contacted every week by several people looking 584 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: to get into the scouting profession, and how do they 585 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: crack in and you know, what can I do to 586 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: help them? What be honest with you. You know, if 587 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: I don't know you and don't have a personal relationship 588 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: with you, I can't really put my stamp of approval 589 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: on you with somebody. Um, And what I've learned over 590 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: the years is that you try and give some advice 591 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: as best you can. But at the end of the day, 592 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: the people that are just going to refuse to be 593 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: shut out, that are gonna they're going to find a way. 594 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: And Brandon Being and he talked about his head coach 595 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: and Sean mc dermott. Neither one of them had an 596 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: end uh in the National Football League, but they find 597 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: a way. And that's kind of what I come back 598 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: to on some of the things. Now, I might not 599 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: be able to help you get there, but if you're 600 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: determined and this is what you really want, you'll find 601 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: a way. And that might not be to the scouting door. 602 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot of other ways to get it done. Now. 603 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: Look it. It's funny because it's Um. Having worked alongside 604 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: Being and his assistant general manager Joe Shane and some 605 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: of the other guys that have migrated up to Buffalo 606 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: from Carolina, I can say this because they were young 607 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: guys kind of making their way when I was there. Uh, 608 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: those guys came in in unique doors. I want to say. 609 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: Joe started on the other side and the business side, 610 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: working on tickets, and then he would work late at 611 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: night and watch take Uh with the powers be to 612 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: to make sure that he learned the craft. He let 613 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: it be known that he wanted to scout A lot 614 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: of times. When I talked to young guys about getting in, 615 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: I said, man, take anything that can get you into building, 616 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: and then when you get in the building, do a 617 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: great job in that role. But express to others, I 618 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: would love to have an opportunity to be on the 619 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: other side. And if I can get all my work 620 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: done during the day, can I come late at night 621 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: and watch film? Can you help me learn this part 622 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: of the process, How to evaluate tape, how to talk 623 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: about players, how the right reports. If you're willing to 624 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: log the long hours, you certainly can get it done. 625 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: But you have to find a way in the building, 626 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: no matter what their role their job is. Yeah, that's 627 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: a great way to put it in their buckets. Just 628 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: finding a way, UM get inside the building. There's lots 629 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: of examples I've I've told the story before about a 630 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: scout that was with us in Cleveland. It got actually 631 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: was there before I got there. Uh, a guy named 632 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: Donovan Bible Cheefe. Donovan was on the on the marketing 633 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: side or the media side. And the same thing with 634 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: theater has worked done during the day. You go to 635 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: Phil Savage in the evening and say, what can I 636 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: do to help on the scouting side. This is my 637 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: passion um. So he ended up kind of parleying that 638 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: into eventually getting onto the scouting side. Now he's working 639 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: with the Chargers and a really really good scout and 640 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: and he's somebody that just again, you just refused to 641 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: you refused to accept. No, you find different ways to 642 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: get it done. How about I got Jim Naggie when 643 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: I was playing the Green Bay Packers. Nags was an 644 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: intern in the pr department. He worked his way over 645 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: to being a scout, befriend John Snyder and some other 646 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: guys in that building. Had an opportunity to make that transition, 647 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: and he's been successful then as the executive director of 648 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. And so, look, if you want to 649 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: get it done, you can find a way to get 650 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: it done. You have to be persistent, and you have 651 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: to take advantage of any opportunity that you get. When 652 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: you get that opportunity, man, you have to be great 653 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: at that role that you're given while also trying to 654 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: work to accomplish and get closer to your drink. Anything 655 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: else to unpack there from that conversation book Now, I 656 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: think the one thing that is interesting is how they 657 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: were talking about preparing for next year's draft. Uh, if 658 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: some of these guys opt out already having a ready list, 659 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: already having evaluations done, being prepared, if they have to 660 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: go out on the road in the spring and look 661 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: at some of these non Power five conferences, including the 662 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: Ivy League. Uh, when you're a scout and when you're 663 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: at the top of the food chain, you're making decisions, 664 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: you always want to be thinking about next steps. And 665 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: it appears that the Buffalo Bills have a plan to 666 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: tackle this new environment that we're having to deal with 667 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: based on the pandemic um. The draft is going to happen, 668 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: and you have to be ready and there are no 669 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: excuses to not being able to get the job done 670 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: despite the conditions that we may all face. Yeah, I mean, 671 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: just again, I keep coming back. It's the same thing 672 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: right with the draft. You just gotta you gotta find 673 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: a way in this environment to uh, you know, to 674 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: get it done and find a way to evaluate these 675 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: guys properly without all the traditional information that you would 676 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: normally have. So um, you know, you just gotta find 677 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: a way to get it done. And it sounds like 678 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean's he almost sounded kind of excited about the challenge. 679 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: And I think that's the difference and talking to to 680 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: folks around the league during these times, talking to coaches 681 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: in personnel guys, you hear it in their voice. I 682 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: want to the thing guys I talked to yesterday said 683 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: every single day it changes, like in terms of what 684 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: our protocols are, what are what you can do, what 685 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: you can't do. You know, this coach you know had 686 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, had some symptoms, so uh, even though he 687 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: doesn't have COVID, he can't come into the building for 688 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: three days. So now you've got to navigate without this. 689 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: It's just constantly adjusting. But it's all in your attitude. 690 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: So from like, hey, it is what it is. Every 691 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: day you wake up, this is a challenge we're gonna face. 692 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: Let's let's figure out a way. Let's let's let's put 693 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: a smile on your face. Let's be happy that we 694 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: have jobs, and let's figure out a way to make 695 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: this whole thing work. And you get other people, you 696 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: talk to it all you do is complain about how 697 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: we can't do this, we can't do that, like it's 698 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: all in your mindset, Yeah, it is all in your mind. 699 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: See their challenges, but others will see them as opportunities. 700 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: And it's an opportunity. As you and I have talked about, 701 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: I think this will be a year where two sets 702 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: of folks separate themselves. Uh. Great evaluators will set themselves 703 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: apart from the rest of the back because they will 704 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: take this opportunity to really dig into the film and 705 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 1: they will focus on finding the DNA of each player. 706 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: And the really good coaches will be adaptable. They will 707 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: figure out a way to coach their teams to the 708 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: best the ability in spite of all the obstacles to 709 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: the deer in front of them. The best will always 710 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: as my day I would say, the cream rises to 711 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: the top. This year we will see the cream brides 712 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: to the top in both aspects, no doubt. All right, now, 713 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: Bile we we mentioned that we would answer some fan 714 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: questions here. Um, I just think that I don't know 715 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: if I want to call the fan questions. I think 716 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: they're just kind of like they're they're moved the sticks, 717 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: uh there in the community, the community questions. There we go. 718 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: I hate the word fan. It sounds like that's that's 719 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: we're not fans. We've got team members here. What do 720 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: we got? All? Right? First one, if you had to 721 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: project the Manning, Brady Brees and Big Ben of the 722 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: next generation, who are you naming? Okay, buck, let's do 723 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: these one at the time. Let's lose one at the time. 724 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: So Manning would be the you know, big stats, very 725 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: efficient um, winning your division each and every year. What 726 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: are some other things we could say about Peyton Um 727 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: kind of like almost I would say he was a 728 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: face somewhat the face of the NFL right during that time. 729 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: Even throw a pitch man in there. So who who 730 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: comes to mind when you look at all these young quarterbacks? 731 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: Is somebody that would uh fit that Peyton Manning role 732 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: of all these young guys. Man, it's tough because I'm like, 733 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: I can't, like I hear all that stuff that you're 734 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: seeing but I'm trying to figure out playing style in 735 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: which young quarterback plays like him, and I don't. I 736 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: don't know if I have a guy that is a 737 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: direct correlation that fits him as a young player. I mean, geez, 738 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: the only guy that I think about playing at a 739 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: high level and being able to win a ton in 740 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: the pocket would be Jerry Golf with a lot of 741 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: that is manufactured through Sean McVeigh and his ability to 742 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: kind of elevate him. Um, the Manna thing is tough 743 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: for me. That's a tough that's a tough deal. So 744 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: for Manning, I've got kind of a sneaky way of 745 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: getting to this one. Now statstat wise is not gonna 746 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: look like that. Look but if you think about the 747 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: same division and different styles of play, but the young 748 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: quarterback into Shaun Watson, who has already won a couple 749 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: of division titles and could continue to rack up division 750 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: title after division titled with coming up a little bit short. 751 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: You know we talked about for Peyton, he needs to 752 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: win the super Bowl. They had a lot of success 753 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: before they actually got over the hump with the Patriots. 754 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: I want a Super Bowl. I could see the Shawn 755 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: Watson in that way. You know, a bunch of yards 756 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, going to the playoffs every year but not 757 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: quite getting the ultimate prize before maybe eventually getting it. 758 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go kind of a little a trippy one. Now, 759 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Shaun Watson, is to Peyton Manning. Okay, 760 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: I'll put an ask you on this, because you brought 761 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: up the stats, I would say anyone listening to this, 762 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: go and look at Jamie Winston stats. Jamis Winston stats 763 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: and paid Manning statistics are the first those first four 764 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: five years in the league. Maybe maybe he can bounce 765 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: back in New Orleans and have an opportunity to do 766 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: some paid Manning like stuff. All right, let's get to 767 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: the next one here, uh Tom Brady. So that would 768 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: be kind of the ultimate winner of these young quarterbacks. 769 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: So which of these young quarterbacks is gonna is going 770 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: to be the guy that's racking up all the titles. Oh, 771 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna make people mad with this one. 772 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make people really bad. I'm gonna make like, 773 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: like I think some people's heads are gonna explode. But 774 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, go out to Dallas and look at 775 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott because the supporting cast that they put around 776 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: him should enable him to win and win for a 777 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: long time. When you look at what Dak Prescott has 778 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: around him with that why receiver corps, Ezekiel Elliott, and 779 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: if they can just retool the offensive line, I think 780 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: the Dallas Guy boys gonna win and they canna win 781 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: for a long time. Okay, So for Brady, you've got 782 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: You've got Dak Prescott. That gets me to Breeze, And 783 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: with Breeze, I'm gonna go with the rookie here, I'm 784 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: gonna go. I can go with you, I can go 785 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: two different rookies. But I'm gonna go Joe Burrow. I'm 786 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: gonna go Joe Burrow. It's he's playing in the same 787 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: offense that Breeze played in. It's it's they're gonna get 788 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: guys out on the route and he's gonna complete a 789 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: very high percentage, gonna throw for a zillion yards. Um, 790 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go there. I'm gonna 791 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: go with Joe Burrow. Oh that leaves you, That leaves 792 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: you with Big Ben? How do we describe Big Ben? 793 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: Because the Big Ben is a guy that evolved evolved 794 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: from being kind of like the for never I think 795 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: I think it's staring you're right in the face, especially 796 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: considering who we talked to earlier on this episode. Oh, 797 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 1: you think Josh Allen's is a big van type. They're big. 798 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: Start there, that's the first part of the big He 799 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 1: is a big He is a big around make plays, 800 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: and that if you think about the early seasons you 801 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: talked about like he's kind of doing what Ben did. 802 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: He is doing what Early Been did. Early Been deferred 803 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: to the running game in the defense, and that's how 804 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: they won a bunch of their games. You made some 805 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: plays off off the cuff, unscripted in a sand Lot fashion, 806 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: and then he evolved in to being the guy that 807 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: became a very efficient passer. I have, I think I have. 808 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 1: I think I had a better one about Carson Wentz. 809 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: Do you think even though Carson didn't start in that 810 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, they've got a Super Bowl as a young player. 811 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: They're both big guys that can make all kinds of 812 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: creative plays. They both have had injuries where they've missed 813 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: some time. They're both really good organizations that are in 814 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs just about every single year. I think Carson 815 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: is the best fit there. Okay, so we got that. 816 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: So now here's the thing, because there are a couple 817 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: of guys that we've left off the list that we 818 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: haven't included, says he didn't mention, Yeah, what is Pat 819 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: Mahomes fall Like, I'm noticing that you don't have Aaron Rodgers? 820 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: Is that was that about design the bill? I mean, 821 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying the next generation. I don't think Aaron Rodgers 822 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: part of the next generation. So you're saying who the 823 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 1: next Aaron Rodgers is? Yeah, who's who's the next Aaron Rodgers? 824 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,479 Speaker 1: The Bill didn't write the comuestion the question. I would 825 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 1: have said, Aaron Rodgers is thirty eight. I think I 826 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: think I think that's a good call back because I 827 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: think Mahomes would be the next Aaron Rodgers. With with 828 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: I think, you know, potentially more Super Bowl rings. But 829 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: you're talking about just the best, Like Aaron Rodgers for 830 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: that long stretch of time was in arguably the best quarterback, 831 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes right now, there's no argument is the 832 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: best quarterback. So I think we need to add him 833 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: to the question here. Yeah, we have to add him. 834 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: So that's a bonus one. So whoever say they didn't, 835 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: We're adding Aaron Rodgers so we can get the Pat 836 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: Mahomes thing. Whatever. But I think it's interesting because of 837 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: the style of quarterbacks that we're seeing. Lamar Jackson and 838 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: Calin Murray and those guys did on this sarely fit 839 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: that box. And so I think as viewers and evaluate 840 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: as the football work, kind of has to change their 841 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: eye to what the next generation of elite quarterbacks will 842 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: looking like. Yeah, I definitely would want to have Kyler 843 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: Murray on this next you know, the next generation of 844 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: great players. But he doesn't really comp with any of 845 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: these guys, No, not at all. All Right, what's up? 846 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: You know what you got? Can you guys give an 847 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: early look at some of the names Jets GM Joe 848 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: Douglas could be considering what their two first round picks 849 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: next year. Well, we know that they need edge rushers, 850 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: they need corners, they need another tackle, they need playmakers. 851 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of different ways you can go. 852 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: Uh to me, if you're if you're gonna, if you're 853 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: a Jets fan, you want to be optimistic about who 854 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: you could get. I don't think you want to lose 855 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,240 Speaker 1: this many games. But Greg Gruso from Miami would probably 856 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: be at the top of my top of my list book. Yeah, 857 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: I think he certainly would be on the top of this. 858 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 1: And I think they need playmakers. You talk about Ja Marches, 859 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: you talk about water from Alabama. Um, there are a 860 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: number of guys they need a number one receiver. Bateman 861 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 1: would be in the conversation. Uh. This recent name that 862 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: came out last night that put in till he could 863 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: opt out in Michael Parsons. Michael Parsons would be interesting 864 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: because he would give them inside linebacker with past for stability, 865 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: because he is a very versatile and aggressive and athletic player. 866 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: That would be an interesting name to kind of keep 867 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 1: an eye on if you're the Jets. He's the top five, 868 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: top ten type player. Uh, really good player. But gregor 869 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: so is an ed dresser. I think that they need 870 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: a premier address and absolutely he is that guy in 871 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: this in this draft where I've seen thus far, what's 872 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 1: the next one to Bill? What are you guys thoughts 873 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: on Miles Brennan, jail Burrow's successor at l s U. Well, 874 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: I haven't I'll be honest with you, I haven't looked 875 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: at him Buck. I know he hasn't really have seen 876 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: him at the collegiate level. I know you've got a 877 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: little bit of it. You saw a little peak of 878 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: him there in high school. I mean, I know that 879 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean anything for where he is right now, 880 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: but anything stand out to you when you saw him 881 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: at the elite eleven? Well, look, man, he's he's a 882 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: guy who has had an opportunity to do it now. 883 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: He is more traditional in his style to play. He's 884 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: a pro style quarterback, like he's he's six for and 885 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 1: he has a gun, he has an arm. He was 886 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: a four star guy coming out. But look, stepping in 887 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: from Joe Burrow is gonna be a tall order for 888 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 1: anybody because Joe Burrow played at a ridiculous level last year, 889 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: and so I think that would naturally be a bit 890 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: of a drop off. But one thing we know about 891 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: l s U. They have playmakers around and even if 892 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't play in an A plus level, he suddenly 893 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: played well enough for them to win a number of games. 894 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 1: All right, there you go, All right, what's what's the 895 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: next one here? What do you got in the bill? 896 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 1: What can the Packers to to improve their run? Defense 897 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 1: in I didn't write this question. You did not what 898 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: was there? What was their run defense rated last year? 899 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: I don't have that in front of me right now. Well, 900 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing with the Packers and their 901 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: run defense is like Mike Eddon loves the blitz, and 902 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: they're not a team that necessarily play as a very 903 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: fundamental style of play in terms of this locking up 904 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: and basing up, and so he wants to blitz um 905 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: to blow up the running game. And sometimes when you 906 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: blitz like they have, you can get caught in bad situations, 907 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: and we saw that um in the championship game when 908 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: the forty nine is kind of ran over them. I 909 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: think the big thing for them is always gonna be 910 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: gap integrity and being able to tackle. They have to 911 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: be able to get runners down when they have one 912 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: on one opportunities in space, because would you miss tackles, 913 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: particularly on the second level. That's when the big place 914 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: happened and they missed too many tackles. My answer to this, 915 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: and it does not specific to the Green Bay Packers, 916 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: but anytime people talk about the uh, the struggling run defense, 917 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: go score a bunch of points. You don't have to 918 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: defend the run very much. So that's and that's been 919 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: the that's been the criticism, right as have they done 920 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: enough offensively around Aaron Rodgers to make them as dynamic 921 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 1: as they can be? So you know, look, we'll see 922 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 1: maybe maybe we see a j Dylan Aaron Jones combination. Um, 923 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 1: maybe they can give them some juice offensively, and maybe 924 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: maybe we see one of these young wide receivers kind 925 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 1: of take that next step to compliment the bante Adams. 926 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, you don't have to stop the run 927 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: when you're up by twenty one points. Control of the game. 928 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: Control of the game. All right, What we got in 929 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: a b in today's NFL What would be your dream 930 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: or favorite job to take? And why? See this is 931 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: the part about it's a good question, and it in 932 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: a private conversation, maybe I'd answer it, But Buck, we 933 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: know all the thirty two general managers and we've got 934 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: good relationships with the majority of them. So I'm always 935 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: reluctant to say, oh, yeah, that would be my dream 936 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: job and get a phone call like, hey, dude, I've 937 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: I've got this job. Are you talking about? So? Uh, 938 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's I don't know if I 939 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,399 Speaker 1: can answer that one. How about you, Well, I think 940 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: I think both of us like, regardless of what the team, 941 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: I think the dream for anybody would be to be 942 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: able to build a team, to be able to think 943 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: of your thoughts and ideas and philosophies match up and 944 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: they lead to wins on the field. So not find 945 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: it for anybody's job. I think if you ask DJ 946 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 1: and myself like what we would love to do, man, 947 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 1: you love to put together a team and and see 948 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 1: if your vision matches up and if you can win 949 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: and win at a high level based on how you've 950 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: been influenced, based on the way that you see the 951 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: game right now and the way that you see the 952 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 1: game going, I think they will be the ideal draw 953 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 1: for either one of us. You know, I think that's 954 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 1: building an organization to not even just a team. It's 955 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: hiring the right coach, getting the right people in the building. 956 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: And I think today was a great example of that 957 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: with Brandon being you mentioned having Joe Shane who we 958 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: had familiarity with Carolina, you know, Sean McDermott who we knew, 959 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: Like getting guys that you've worked with that you know 960 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: that you believe in an assembling kind of that Avengers 961 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: type squad and saying, Okay, now we're on the same page. 962 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: Let's go conquer the world. Uh maybe fun? All right, 963 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 1: we got time for one more to be able. What 964 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: do you got Which MLB player do you think would 965 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: make the best NFL player? Oh, it's easy, Fernando Tatis 966 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: And then come on, he's the best athlete in baseball 967 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 1: right now, Buck, that's a no brainer. Yeah, he's kind 968 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 1: his wife in his eyes tonight after that that law 969 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: State took yesterday. Split we're one on one. He is. 970 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: He is a very, very athletic guy. You know, I 971 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: would like to see I would like to see Tim 972 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: Anderson playing a little slot receiver for the Chicago White Sucks. 973 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: He's a pretty dynamic, pretty dynamic guy, and he's kind 974 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: of late to the party when it comes to being 975 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: a baseball player because he didn't play all the way 976 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 1: coming up. You know, I would have to say Mike 977 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,720 Speaker 1: Trout as an athlete, he would have been a football player, 978 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: pretty pretty, pretty, thick and sturdy. Aaron Judge be a 979 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: tight and maybe that dude is. Yeah, he's a big 980 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: There are a lot of guys and I think Um, 981 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: it's easier to see the crossover between football baseball players 982 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: because of the way the seasons match up. I think 983 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 1: you dig down deep in a bunch of baseball players, 984 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: I think you would see that they have football in 985 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: their backgrounds and some in some capacity, no doubt. Um, 986 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,879 Speaker 1: all right, man, I think uh. I think that's about 987 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: it for us here. I do want to remind everybody 988 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 1: starting next week, you can check out the Hard Knocks 989 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,879 Speaker 1: podcast hosted by our buddy Peter Schraeger. Hard Knocks TV 990 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: show debuts on Tuesday, August eleven, ten pm Eastern on HBO, 991 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: so be on the lookout for that. Again. Encourage you 992 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: guys leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts 993 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: and we'll get to it on a future podcast episode. 994 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: So I appreciate that as well. I actually I want 995 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,720 Speaker 1: to throw this one thing out here. Um, we've talked 996 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: a bunch about the best high school football player you've 997 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: ever seen. We've talked about it between us, We've had 998 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: college coaches, NFL coaches, NFL players, college players. We've talked 999 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: to a lot of people about this question. We've never 1000 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,399 Speaker 1: pen it up to the audience. You guys have played 1001 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 1: high school football you've been around high school football. I'd 1002 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 1: be curious on some of the some of your answers. 1003 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: So again, if you just go to Apple podcast, leave her, 1004 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 1: leave a little rating, and then let us know in 1005 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: there who the best high school football player you've ever seen. 1006 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: Doesn't necessarily have to play with them or played against them, 1007 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: but just you've ever seen with your own two eyes. 1008 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see if we get some different names 1009 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 1: we haven't heard already. Book. I would love I would 1010 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: love to see that because you know, I love just 1011 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: kind of going and browsing huddle huddle links. Uh you 1012 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: see him? So now that would be fun. All right, 1013 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: let's see that. That's a challenge. That's a challenge out 1014 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: there for you. I want to thank the Bill for producing, 1015 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: doing a great job for us as always, and we'll 1016 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 1: be back soon with another episode. Appreciate you guys, join us. 1017 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Right here, I'm moving the sticks. 1018 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 1: The moment start