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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three twenty three,

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Speaker 1: Episode five of Day. It's a production of iHeartRadio and

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Speaker 1: it's a podcast where we take a deep dive into America,

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Speaker 1: share consciousness.

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Speaker 2: Miles.

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Speaker 1: We made it to the end of season three twenty three.

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Speaker 2: They said we wouldn't. Three two three here Los Angeles. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let them know.

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Speaker 1: It is Friday, February second, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Two two four yep. Oh boy, you get ready because

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Speaker 2: it's National Groundhog Day. It's National bubblegum Day. Oh shit,

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Speaker 2: it's groundhog Day. Oh is it? Oh? Is that what

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Speaker 2: that means? I'm like National groundhog Day. I'm like for

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Speaker 2: groundhogs rather than it's groundhog Day.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: National Heavenly Hash Day, which is not something that I

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Speaker 2: would use to prevent my dreams, but actually a wonderful

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Speaker 2: chocolate and marshmallow confection. It looks like National Tater Todd Day.

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Speaker 2: And also shout out to Elmo. But for the any

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Speaker 2: other people today, better not be catching you wearing that

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Speaker 2: flue because it's National wear red Day.

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Speaker 1: One of my best friends from growing up just hit

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Speaker 1: like I don't usually do on the ground reporting on

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Speaker 1: this podcast, but he hit me up and said that

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Speaker 1: he has pretty good data suggesting that the ground hug

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Speaker 1: thing is a myth and that whether or not the

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Speaker 1: ground hug sees this shadow doesn't change whether there's two

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Speaker 1: more weeks of winter. Yeah, that's Chris. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: Chris Man. He's usually a pretty reliable source.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know we're Chris then, because that just

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Speaker 2: completely that up ends my whole understanding of the planets.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a flat earther.

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Speaker 1: I am a groundherd ground hug earther, though I do.

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Speaker 1: This is the one anti zidific belief that I hold,

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Speaker 1: and everything else revolves around that. My name's Jack O'Brien,

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Speaker 1: ak Elmo Sho, Big Bird dropped wet t shirt contest

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Speaker 1: pop Oh No Sesame Streets Dark Now Brot's courtesy a

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Speaker 1: rowdy drummer on the discord. Yeah, I think things have

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Speaker 1: gotten leak in the in the world of Sesame Street.

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Speaker 1: As we've just asked the innocent question, who between Almo

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Speaker 1: and Big Bird would survive a fight to the death,

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Speaker 1: Just very innocent, straightforward question that everyone's taken to a

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Speaker 1: really dark place.

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Speaker 2: It's activating with you, the listener shout outs because the

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Speaker 2: things you're sending me and the Acha throw down. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: stop ship down. I'm like, no, I agree, no, No,

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Speaker 2: that's it's totally our fault.

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co

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Speaker 1: host mister Miles Gray.

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Speaker 2: You better run before I count up to three. Don't

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Speaker 2: want this, mascle smoke here up on sess of me.

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Speaker 2: I'll kick you, I'll beat you. I'll rearrange your wings.

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Speaker 1: So beat it.

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Speaker 2: Get your beat out of my face. Just beat it,

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Speaker 2: beat it.

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Speaker 4: Beat almost two feet tall and heat it. Your corneys

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Speaker 4: can't even take light. I'll snap your legs and then

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Speaker 4: turn out your life.

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Speaker 2: Just beat it, okay, I mean stouty on the fucking

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Speaker 2: discord with the gifts too, with the fucking the most

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Speaker 2: intense knife fight we've ever seen in music video history

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Speaker 2: from the beat It video that's more like a West

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Speaker 2: Side Story kind of choreographed dance with just like hands

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Speaker 2: chained together. Yeah, is that a thing that actually happened?

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Speaker 2: Like was that that happened after that? Right? Like, let's

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Speaker 2: bound our arms and knife fight. Wouldn't you just stab

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Speaker 2: the dude's arm a bunch, because you like, right, that's

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Speaker 2: what you would think. But anyway, That's the other thing

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Speaker 2: that I always heard about that was that they were

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Speaker 2: actual like gangsters that they got Like. Actually, so my

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Speaker 2: dad used to used to work for Michael Jackson as

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Speaker 2: his photographer and he the last gig that he worked

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Speaker 2: was on the set of Beat It and they had

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Speaker 2: straight up crips on that set, and like my dad

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Speaker 2: has a whole he took a bunch of pictures of

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Speaker 2: the extras. One of the most gangster fucking photos are

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Speaker 2: these dudes who are on the beat It set, like

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Speaker 2: wearing like leather fucking cowboy hats and trench. It was

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Speaker 2: a different time, a different that is a different time.

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Speaker 2: That's wild.

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Speaker 1: The leather cowboy hats was like the tough shit.

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Speaker 2: I got it. If you see this picture, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: be like, who the fuck are these people? Those are

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Speaker 2: the gangsters that were on the beat It set.

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Speaker 1: I love the idea, Like that's what makes me love

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Speaker 1: the idea that they're actual gangsters, because then they asked

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Speaker 1: them to do the most West Side story ass thing

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Speaker 1: a the do all right, and now you're gonna just

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Speaker 1: have a fight to the death. But it's really about

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Speaker 1: you know, dancing and expressing yourself and they nail it

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Speaker 1: like it really feels like, well, Corey, Well there was the.

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Speaker 2: One dude who is from New York Undercover, like who

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Speaker 2: was in that video too, but like they were mostly

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Speaker 2: just doing like they gangsters don't dance. The real gangsters

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Speaker 2: were in the background. They were text failing it straight

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Speaker 2: up texture. Yeah, yeah, Miles, We're.

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Speaker 1: Thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a journalist.

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Speaker 1: We've had New York Times bestselling authors on before. This

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Speaker 1: guy has written for New York Times bestselling books. He's

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Speaker 1: a podcast host now whose new show is The Puzzler,

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Speaker 1: which is a daily.

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Speaker 2: Put wait a second, this guy's coming for a fucking daily.

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Speaker 1: Serves up fresh puzzles daily.

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Speaker 2: No all right, I mean we're cannibalizing our own audience

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Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, we'll allow it.

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Speaker 1: Please, Welcome to the show, the Brilliant, the Talented, the

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Speaker 1: Puzzling ajj G.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you, delighted to be here. And we

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Speaker 5: are daily. But we're like eight minutes long, so I

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Speaker 5: know we're much competition.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we don't even start talking about anything for eight minutes.

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Speaker 2: Were bullshit?

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Speaker 5: Can I add to that bullshit with one my favorite

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Speaker 5: crazy sesame Street fact, yes, which is I looked up

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Speaker 5: the history for some reason. It was some project the

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Speaker 5: history of Oscar the grouchka and they introduced him, I

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Speaker 5: think in the seventies because they wanted some socioeconomic diversity.

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Speaker 5: They felt that they wanted someone more impoverished, so they

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Speaker 5: put him in a garbage can. That is just to me,

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Speaker 5: the craziest decision, right, Like, this is here you can

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Speaker 5: you can relate to this. He's in a garbage can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, poor kids, this is you exactly. You live

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Speaker 2: in a steel trash can you smell it? Shit anyway,

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Speaker 2: something like that, just for more repum Christmas ornaments.

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Speaker 1: Out of fish skeleton's poor kid, we get it, we

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Speaker 1: know how you are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like that depiction of Oscar the Grouch

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Speaker 2: to live in a garbage can. Mm hmm, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. They're like, well, right, things are a bout.

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Speaker 2: I guess that that could be a place that you

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Speaker 2: might dlow. Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 5: It's it's comforting or good.

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Speaker 2: Things are good or bad, Yeah, depends on your point

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Speaker 2: of view. AJ.

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Speaker 1: Your show has what's been described as a batman villain

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Speaker 1: ass name. Have you considered taking a major city hostage

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Speaker 1: using your puzzles or maybe a mayor or something to

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Speaker 1: confuse the police and rob Banks?

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Speaker 5: Interesting, now I had not until now.

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Speaker 2: I'm just putting it out there. Yeah I know that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, podcasts needs some monetization, so thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's a great idea. Yeah, full the City of

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Speaker 2: Millions hostage.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I love the puzzler. Come on, that's why

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Speaker 5: you guys are so good. Yeah, that's why you've been

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Speaker 5: around for so long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we still haven't followed through with our plan to

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Speaker 2: take an entire metropolitan area hostage, but you.

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Speaker 1: Know the number of hostages who are just waiting around

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Speaker 1: for the dailies. Like anyways, AJ, we're gonna get to

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Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're

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Speaker 2: Every once in a while.

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Speaker 1: We like to check in with this Trump guy. You know,

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Speaker 1: this guy's always in the news. Things not going so

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Speaker 1: great for him in the current news cycle, so we'll

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Speaker 1: check in about that. Peter Teel is bringing a banger

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Speaker 1: idea that's been kicked around by people like him for

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Speaker 1: a while. But the idea of Olympics with peds like

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Speaker 1: just you know, this is the the display of our

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Speaker 1: greatest like scientific advances. Look what we made in the

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Speaker 1: lat folks. Larry David attacked Elmo on Laft TV. So

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Speaker 1: we have new data on the point Big Bird v Elmo,

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Speaker 1: all of that plenty more. But first, AJ, we do

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Speaker 1: like to ask our guest, what is something from your

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Speaker 1: search history?

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Speaker 5: I my favorite recent search was for the or spraint

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Speaker 5: spr A I N T. Which I had not heard of,

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Speaker 5: but it has its own Wikipedia page and it is

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Speaker 5: otter dung, the the feces of the little cute water

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Speaker 5: mammal Otter. And I saw it because I was doing

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Speaker 5: We we create puzzles for our guests, like you will

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Speaker 5: get your own special puzzles, and this puzzle involved in Otter,

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Speaker 5: a link to Spraint and uh, yeah, it's the feces

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Speaker 5: of honors. But it's apparently like very special feces that

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Speaker 5: smells like what did they say, freshly moan hey? Freshly real?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that is like sometimes you'll smell some

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Speaker 1: That's like that smells like oatmeal. Spring should actually be

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Speaker 1: the past tense of sprint, but there you go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or sprained. I thought that was like kind of

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, like and tainted reminded me of taint in

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Speaker 2: So I love that the sides of the taint the spring.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just spray out from the taint and you get

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Speaker 2: I'm also like you, it does seem special because I've

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Speaker 2: never seen like images of like animal feces, but with

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Speaker 2: so many people holding it in their bare hand. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like it's a baby bird. I mean, like, ooh, I

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Speaker 2: got a little sprint here for y'all. Check this out.

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Speaker 1: They're holding the sprint like it's a baby bird. Like

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Speaker 1: that just a delicacy that they're tuck into.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, smelling, they're getting the essence right.

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Speaker 2: Are there any uses for it outside of just holding it?

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Speaker 5: I did not see that that. Yeah, I think that's yeah.

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Speaker 5: If you ever have me back on I will do

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Speaker 5: far more research on springs.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm definitely.

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Speaker 5: But their ship smells.

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Speaker 2: Everything smells like freshly moaned head and they're right, this

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Speaker 2: guy's getting close. What's something you think is overrated? All right?

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Speaker 5: For this one, I decided to do this the biggest

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Speaker 5: argument I've had in my family in the last week,

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Speaker 5: which was I was saying how much I enjoy watching

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Speaker 5: movies on double speed, and my wife and kids were

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Speaker 5: just furious. So my overrated is watching movies at regular speed.

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Speaker 5: And because you know, I wanted to see Flowers of

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Speaker 5: the Killer Moon, but I'm not gonna. I just did

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Speaker 5: not want to spend four hours doing that. So I

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Speaker 5: rented on YouTube and you can put it on double speed,

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Speaker 5: and it was fantastic.

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Speaker 5: So, but yeah, I know that my filmmakers and art

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Speaker 2: Why not. I mean, I think it's all I do.

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Speaker 2: I've never tried to watch a movie at two x speed.

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Speaker 5: Right, Well, there are some shows and movies definitely don't

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Speaker 5: Slow movie that's you know, got lots of nature shots

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Speaker 5: Like man and even old comedies, it's hilarious. I remember

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Speaker 1: The Blues Brothers is I mean, I've always said that

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Speaker 2: But everybody fucking loves that shit. Like people.

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Speaker 1: I know so many people who are like, oh have

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Speaker 1: It's mostly cops, and the cops that I played cards with.

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Speaker 2: that is unfucking shakable. Yeah, okay, so deep it's Chris.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna need better We're gonna need better sourcing on this, man. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: don't give me some science ship because they're all in

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Speaker 1: Phil. The book looks like it's called Uncertain The Wisdom

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Speaker 2: Is the sad part though, about Biden doing that is

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Speaker 5: Exactly that is the problem I'm not sure about.

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Speaker 2: But to your point, like, yeah, we are in such

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you mustn't know all those things like it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just yeah. I think I embodied that ethos when

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Speaker 1: There's just so much pressure, man, I gotta knowing how

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, lifting drink? Yeah, one second, let me get that.

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Speaker 1: Trump will be right back, and we're back, so back.

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Speaker 1: The headlines have turned less confident that Donald Trump is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which feels wrong.

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Speaker 5: I remember when he was president, I had every time

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Speaker 2: I think we're more slowly moving towards that. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: his stupid NFTs or people are buying. So as much

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Speaker 2: as it's like, oh, he's out spending the pace that

439
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Speaker 2: he can raise, it's just it. I don't think that

440
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Speaker 2: is that big of a deal. But again shows just

441
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Speaker 2: sort of how spread thin he is at the very least,

442
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Speaker 2: or that money that could be going to like the

443
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: campaign is just going to legal fees.

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Speaker 1: The NFT thing I feel called out by, Okay, like

445
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Speaker 1: that's I don't have to like his politics to have

446
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: invested wisely in the NFTs. Like I didn't have to

447
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: be a big Ken Griffy junior fan to like, you know,

448
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: have his rookie card. Yeah, I guess this was a

449
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: sound investment. Okay, Yeah, and you should you invested in Man.

450
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Speaker 1: I am upside down on these.

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Speaker 2: Just so you know, just for the record, and I'm

452
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Speaker 2: glad AJ is here to see this. You brought that up,

453
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Speaker 2: not me this time, so.

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Speaker 1: I mean you kind of brought it up by being

455
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Speaker 1: like some people do.

456
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Speaker 2: But but here's the other thing, there's plenty of polling

457
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Speaker 2: that Joe's Biden is not doing well in key swing states.

458
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Speaker 2: So it's interesting when to see like the sort of

459
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Speaker 2: inverse of that sort of be like hallelujah, Trump's polling

460
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Speaker 2: is starting to shift in the wrong direction. A lot

461
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Speaker 2: of that is showing that like independents are much like

462
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Speaker 2: like He's be like much likelier to flock to Biden,

463
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Speaker 2: like by six points, like in sort of a generic race,

464
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Speaker 2: and even like with five people in the race, Biden

465
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: is still a few points of of Trump. And also

466
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Speaker 2: the like, the one thing I think is true is

467
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Speaker 2: that the gender gap is actually widening when it comes

468
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Speaker 2: to between Biden and Trump, because obviously the Republicans are

469
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 2: running on a campaign slogan of I am the manager

470
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Speaker 2: of your uterus now, and that isn't quite bringing everybody

471
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Speaker 2: to under the same tent. But yeah, this feels like

472
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Speaker 2: the one true thing that like people can stand on,

473
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Speaker 2: like a number is being bad with women.

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Speaker 1: It's like yeah, yeah, shit, yeah, they're.

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Speaker 5: Like, oh my thought the problem. I think, well, first

476
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Speaker 5: of all, I like to hear about the money. I'm

477
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Speaker 5: one thing I would love to see as a public defender,

478
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Speaker 5: like if he has to just to.

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Speaker 2: Like if you can't afford an attorney one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he just got every bridge in Manhattan, Like

481
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Speaker 1: over the course of his career, every lawyer he's been

482
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Speaker 1: involved with, he is like, you know, just burned that bridge,

483
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Speaker 1: like ruined their life. So like if he was just like, wait,

484
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Speaker 1: what do you mean, we're out of attorneys in the

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Speaker 1: whole city of New York.

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Speaker 2: Public defend are pretty upstanding people, you know what I mean?

487
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Speaker 2: Like that's such thankless work. They've got it. Yeah. Yeah, I.

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Speaker 5: Met dealers and then Donald Trump like it's one of

489
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Speaker 5: their six hundred cases. But the other thing about polling is,

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Speaker 5: I'm it makes me very nervous polling any because the

491
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 5: Trump base is so anti authoritarian, so wary of establishment,

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Speaker 5: that if someone calls and says they're a pollster, they're

493
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Speaker 5: either going to hang up or they're gonna lie, or

494
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Speaker 5: they're gonna tell them fuck you. So I don't know,

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Speaker 5: maybe there's some stealth polling, like you can like pretend

496
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Speaker 5: you're not a polster and be like, isn't it a

497
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Speaker 5: Trump great? I'm going to vote for him.

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Speaker 1: Trumpercover is one of their kids at the dinner table.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, dad, Wait, what's rue to you?

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm rick Ricky Trump. Come on, daddy, what do

501
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Speaker 2: you think? What's your feeling on where the base is at?

502
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 2: But I think again, the other thing that a lot

503
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Speaker 2: of people are thinking about, and to reference the mothertime

504
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Speaker 2: coffee mugs, the group of people who were like, these

505
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Speaker 2: are the things that will save us, not just you know,

506
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 2: my actually stupid investment creating laws that what may actually

507
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: create you know, stricter guidelines for that many people, you know,

508
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: still hoping that the courts are going to get Trump's

509
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Speaker 2: ass before the election. But here's the thing. It is

510
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Speaker 2: looking pretty unlikely that any of the trials of any

511
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Speaker 2: kind of substantial consequence will start or end in time

512
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Speaker 2: for a conviction to happen before election day. That's that's

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Speaker 2: just the state of things right now as you look

514
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Speaker 2: at it. Like in Georgia, right Fani Willis is currently

515
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Speaker 2: dealing with a scandal after one of the attorneys representing

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Speaker 2: a defendant laid out these allegations of impropriety in her office,

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Speaker 2: namely that she was like having a relationship with one

518
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Speaker 2: of the special prosecutors who had, like their relevant experience

519
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: seemed not quite as substantial as it might need to

520
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Speaker 2: be for something like this, and just also being overpaid,

521
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Speaker 2: and like many legal analysts don't think that's enough for

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Speaker 2: you know, to really cast the sort of aspersions you

523
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Speaker 2: need to be like, Okay, well they need to actually

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Speaker 2: get rid of this prosecution team. But if the judge

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Speaker 2: does decide to do that and another team of prosecutors

526
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Speaker 2: would have to be brought in, there's a whole other

527
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Speaker 2: process that would have to take place, and that is

528
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Speaker 2: just going to cause massive delays. So we're still we're

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Speaker 2: still unsure where what's going on with that, And as

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Speaker 2: of this time, like Fannie Willis hasn't made really much

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Speaker 2: up like direct comments about this. So that's one thing

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Speaker 2: that is like wobbling the timeline for the Georgia Rico case,

533
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Speaker 2: which felt like that one was like every day we

534
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Speaker 2: were like, whoa, maybe this thing might do some shit.

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Speaker 5: But my oh sorry interrupt, but yeah, Mike, worry is

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Speaker 5: that even a conviction, is that necessarily going to stop them?

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Speaker 5: Because I remember researching this a little and deeply, but

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Speaker 5: you Jene Debs ran for president while in jail, yes,

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Speaker 5: and that like whatever four percent of the vote, So

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Speaker 5: I don't know if a conviction is the way out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, oh, I mean it would only be Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it would just be one of those things

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Speaker 2: that it would be so unprecedented that it would really

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Speaker 2: cause the Republican Party to have questions be like, how

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Speaker 2: do you if the guy looks, you know, the best

546
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Speaker 2: case scenario, he's convicted and has to go to prison,

547
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Speaker 2: Like what happens from there? That's just crazy?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like that we have every day is an unprecedented Selwich, Yeah, exactly.

549
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's why the overall it's not

550
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: this isn't the basket people need to be putting their

551
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: eggs in. It's like a judicial route to sort of

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Speaker 2: save us from the mess that we've made in this

553
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Speaker 2: country over the last few decades. And then in the

554
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: Jack Smith DC case, things are slowing down because the

555
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: higher courts are still trying to determine whether or not

556
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: Trump has the immunity that he's fantasizing about. And from

557
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: there he can appeal that one decision, go to a

558
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Speaker 2: higher court and then appeal again to the surprise Court.

559
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Speaker 2: So that could take very you could take it really

560
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: long time. If like with that timeline, you can always delay, right,

561
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: and in court, if you have the money, you can

562
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: always delay, delay, delay, Yeah, And but now looking at

563
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: just sort of like the questions that need to even

564
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: be answered now and the courts that are determining those things, like,

565
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: we're just adding more complexity to this. And obviously in Florida,

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Speaker 2: Judge Eileen Cannon is doing what any loyal Lackey would

567
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Speaker 2: do and has slowed the pace down to the point

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Speaker 2: that people are like, oh, is this thing like completely

569
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Speaker 2: inert now? So not a lot to necessarily get excited

570
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: about on the legal front. So you know, I think

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Speaker 2: just let's not hinge your hopes and dreams on Trump

572
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: being convicted in time and just prepare for a messy

573
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Speaker 2: election season and you know that's the only people or

574
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Speaker 2: that are going to be able to do anything or

575
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, whoever's voting, whoever's like, you know, counting

576
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Speaker 2: votes and not doing the murky work that the Democrats

577
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Speaker 2: are doing or some shit like there's just going to

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Speaker 2: be a I don't know, it's just going to be

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Speaker 2: We're stuck with this, guys, So get ready, like, no,

580
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: no court's going to save us from this. And to

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00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: your point about the polling. It doesn't like I feel

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Speaker 2: like a lot of the time, there's one of these

583
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: posters who came on, like on CNN or MSNBC recently

584
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Speaker 2: and was talking about the difficulty in talking with Trump

585
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: voters because like, a lot of the time you don't know,

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00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: like sometimes they'll say what they think you want to hear,

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00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: or sometimes they'll say what they want people to think.

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00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: They are, like, they're like, I'm not a depraved maga person.

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00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: Of course I'm not going to back that. It's like

590
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Speaker 2: because I'd rather say that and be like, I'm all in.

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00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: So sure, it's a very the target is very Uh,

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Speaker 2: it's up and down.

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Speaker 1: The polling I'm seeing quoted everywhere is that you know,

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Speaker 1: Biden's now up six international poll I think, But it's

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Speaker 1: from Quinnipiac, which is the poll that, even when I

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Speaker 1: believed in polling like years ago, was the one where

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well, we throw Quinnipiac out right.

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Speaker 1: Quinnipiac doesn't mean shit like that. One is always skewed

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Speaker 1: in favor the Democrats, just like res Musin is generally

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Speaker 1: skewed in favor of the Republicans. Yeah, so I don't know,

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel all that reassuring to me, and polling is

602
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Speaker 1: the opiate of the dumb dumbs, including myself. I just

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Speaker 1: I reach for it when I need to get to

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Speaker 1: sleep at night.

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Speaker 2: Well, of course, yeah, you don't want to be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Project twenty twenty five in full swing and ye whatever,

607
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck that brings, and you're like, please six

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Speaker 2: points okay for maintaining the status quo, because that's what

609
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: rich I think is so hard and difficult for many

610
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: people too. It's like we can be doing so much

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00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: better and we're just offered like very nominal change, if

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00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: any at all. Like we're back to, like even with

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Speaker 2: the Biden campaign, just being like ro man, remember that

614
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: one I said four years ago. I'm using it again.

615
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: Let's do something about it.

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Speaker 5: I feel like I try to remind myself that they're

617
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 5: eight months and that just don't pay attention to the polls. Now,

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Speaker 5: maybe the polls will have something to say like a

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Speaker 5: month out, but now it's like paying attention at like

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Speaker 5: the first few games of whatever the NBA or something.

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Speaker 1: Living dying with like opening day for the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the first week of baseball season, and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: fuck fire, the manager.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, it's uh, it's like it's it's like

625
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Speaker 1: worrying about the weather report three months out, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, none of the truly, truly, truly, truly. All right,

627
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Speaker 2: let's take a quick break. We'll come back.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about Peter Thiel and the Olympics, and we're back.

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Speaker 1: We're and on Wednesday, Pressure Lease came out announcing the

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Speaker 1: formation of the Enhanced Games. This is the best I mean,

631
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Speaker 1: is he gonna just go full Madge like, like again

632
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Speaker 1: not to doctor Moreau talking about yeah, but like batman

633
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: villain shit, Like oh, they're like, yes, we will celebrate

634
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: true human excellence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, rise my mutants and throw this javelin seven hundred meters.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So Peter Thiel and a group of investors believe that

638
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Speaker 1: the world is dying to see athletes on a bunch

639
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Speaker 1: of peds.

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00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: Yeah they're not wrong.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would watch it this. That's not the problem.

642
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 5: The problem is moral.

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Speaker 2: But right, Yeah, the press of these is interesting, he says. Quote.

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Speaker 2: Just as the ancient Olympics were revived and renovated in

645
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Speaker 2: eighteen ninety six for the Victorian world, the Enhanced Games

646
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: is once again renovating the Olympic model for the twenty

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Speaker 2: first century. In the era of accelerating technological and scientific change,

648
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: the world needs a sporting event that embraces the future,

649
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: particularly advances in medical science. Yeah. Yeah, so, like we're saying,

650
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: this would be an athletic competition where the athletes are

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00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: encouraged to dope, use stimulants and bank steroids in order

652
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Speaker 2: to answer the question how many people can we see

653
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: have simultaneous heart attacks during a two hundred meter sprint?

654
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: And I think the odds are are pretty good. And yeah,

655
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 2: the rules that are currently being used are dumb because

656
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: fairness is for the week, and also who gives a

657
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 2: fuck if they die? And they've said, hey, we get it,

658
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 2: this can be dangerous. They said there will be quote

659
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: health checks before and after competitions. Okay.

660
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Speaker 5: What I love is that if this goes like in

661
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 5: five years, it's just gonna be nuts because you'll have

662
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 5: crisper and like you'll have athletes with like cheetah legs,

663
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 5: like you know.

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Speaker 2: Oh that are hinged differently too.

665
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, like why not? I mean, medicine is moving that fast.

666
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 5: It'll be wild. And yeah, I would totally watch it,

667
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 5: you know, ethically, it's like bear baiting. It's like about

668
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 5: as Yeah, you know, it's a horrible idea, but but

669
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 5: it is compelling.

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00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like I remember Daniel Tosh had a bit

671
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: about this in one of his early specials about being like, yeah,

672
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: let him fucking do all of the fucking enhancing drugs,

673
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: Like let's just see what the fuck that looks like.

674
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: And so I think we all do have this like

675
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: morbid fascination just to be like, yeah, how far can

676
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: the human body go if you just open the door

677
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 2: to all these enhancements. But I think it's just dumb

678
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: of them to act like this is a noble pursuit

679
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: when you like clearly with like people like Peter Teele involved,

680
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 2: they just want to cash in on a drug addled

681
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 2: freak show where they can like basically use like their

682
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: comp like pharmaceutical or medical companies to be like and

683
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: look at team whatever company this is, like look how

684
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: fast their guys go off?

685
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Tim Peiser team Yeah, yeah, Team Olco, like

686
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: in the powerlifting Yeah, Team USSR just a team of

687
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: scientists from the nineteen eighties. USSR comes through. It's like

688
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: the doctors behind Ivan Drago.

689
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 5: I do remember I wrote an article once about the

690
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 5: history of the Olympics, and early in the Olympics, doping

691
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 5: was not even an issue. And I remember the winner

692
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 5: of the first modern marathon I think it was eighteen

693
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 5: ninety six stopped in the middle of the marathon to

694
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 5: have a glass of wine and maybe a shot of

695
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 5: whiskey or something, so which I thought was like, that's

696
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 5: the best, Like that is the marathon I can deal with.

697
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 5: But yeah, so it maybe he's right, this is more

698
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 5: like the original.

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Speaker 2: I mean to that point though, too. I think I'd

700
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: also enjoy watching an Olympics where people were absolutely fucked

701
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: off their faces trying to compete.

702
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 5: Too, like drug history, but for the Olympics.

703
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just totally enhanced just oh yeah, yeah.

704
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: Like because that would be wild to see someone like

705
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 2: an archery or some shit be like, dude, every day

706
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: these people had to polish off like whatever, like whatever

707
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: drugs were giving them that to completely fuck up their

708
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 2: equilibrium and there's still hitting it. Then I would be like, oh.

709
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody has that friend who like is is a

710
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: better like test taker one stoned, you know, Like I

711
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: feel like sometimes there would be like actual world records

712
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: set by like one person. Yeah, like an archery or

713
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: like yeah dark, yeah you do it.

714
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: You do the sub two hour full marathon because you're

715
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: just drunk and you're like just so like dissociated for

716
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: I don't know, I got there.

717
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, it would just be it'd be so

718
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: interesting to see what the upper limits were, to see

719
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: what Like I one time I was watching an NFL

720
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: game and there were before like during the Star Spangled banner,

721
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: one of the players had these enormous tears pouring out

722
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: of their eye and.

723
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: The size of the tears were enormous.

724
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: The tears like the drop drop The droplets were massive.

725
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: And then I've read somewhere that that is like one

726
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: of the side effects of like a type of performance

727
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: enhancing drug that like people just aren't aware of. So

728
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: like it would just be interesting to see the side

729
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: effect that I'd be like, oh, yeah, okay, I recognize this.

730
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: This girl crying one gallonteer drops.

731
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 5: Instead of the gatorade dump you could just dump.

732
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: That guy just stands over you.

733
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 5: But my question was it because he was emotional? Was

734
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 5: that a signific or just was the implication?

735
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: But it was like it was very strange the amount

736
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: and you know, kind of stone faced, but just like

737
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: giant tears pouring out of.

738
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Speaker 5: That is hilarious. Well, I love it too, because it's

739
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 5: a It's a conversation I've had a hundred times with

740
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 5: my friends like, well, let's have a major league where

741
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 5: it's all in. Yeah, And then the other the opposite

742
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 5: conversation I've had with my friends is like, what if

743
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 5: you had a league that was totally the field was

744
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 5: totally even, so, like if you were born with a

745
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 5: certain advantage, this would take away like you know, sand

746
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 5: bags on horses. So if you're seven feet tall, you

747
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 5: have like three pounds on your legs so that the

748
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 5: five foot two guy can get in there and play

749
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 5: against you. And what would that look like? Not very popular,

750
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 5: I'm guessing.

751
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: That one would.

752
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be for like men in their forties

753
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: to watch, Like I could be out there, man, oh.

754
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's like this, dude, I got Lebron day, man, Lebron.

755
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: Would still be so good like Lebron, Like that's what

756
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: we're seeing in his old age, like he's still just

757
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: like you know, it doesn't matter, he's just a basketball computer.

758
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 2: I mean for like the people that you know, they're

759
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: always doping scandals and things like that. I'm always curious,

760
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: like just how far ahead would they really be outperforming

761
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: athletes who are quote unquote clean, you know what I mean,

762
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: Because what if the times were exactly the same as

763
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: good It's like you just have mediocre athletes getting like

764
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: thin two one hundred, like five one hundreds of a

765
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: second of Usain Bolt And you're like, right, okay.

766
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 5: Well, one thing I remember ten years ago, you're however

767
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 5: long it was when Oscar Pretorious, right, the convicted Now

768
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 5: he's a convicted murderer.

769
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he he's out now, isn't he.

770
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 5: Yeah he's out, Yeah, but he free Oscar.

771
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

772
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 5: But I watched a Ted talk right after him, and

773
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 5: the guy predicted that in ten years every runner in

774
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 5: the Olympics would have artificial limbs because you can design

775
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 5: them to be faster, right, And that hasn't come true.

776
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 5: But I wonder why not? Like what is what happened?

777
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 5: Is it just because they're not enough people doing it?

778
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 5: Or is it that yeah.

779
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that level of body modification. Some people are like,

780
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: you know, I don't mind not having a limb amputated

781
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: for a carbon fiber blade leg, but who knows, maybe

782
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: just need someone to really make that fashionable. I'm just

783
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: I just feel like powerlifting is probably where you're gonna

784
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: see the most like difference probably, Although I just saw

785
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: like a video of this guy who's like a bodybuilder

786
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: influencer who had like a caffeine induced heart attack because

787
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 2: like he's just doing so many crazy stimulants to train.

788
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 2: So it just this idea seems just so many things

789
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: can go wrong.

790
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: Just everyone looks like the liver king.

791
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if motherfuckers aren't jumping like nine feet in

792
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: the air casually, then we're not really you know, like

793
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: I feel like it's not going to quite pay off

794
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: on the promise of being like what happens if everyone.

795
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why you need the gene splicing. So they

796
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 5: like like they look like alligators and things, so it's

797
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 5: like really interesting to watch. Otherwise it's like, you know, Okay,

798
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 5: they ran five seconds faster, right right.

799
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: It's like Mutant Boy from Florida with his crocktail. Uh,

800
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: like his gatortail is like just crushing the one hundred

801
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: meter freestyle. Uh yeah, those are the things we want.

802
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, speaking of none of that, I

803
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: guess Larry David attacked Almo on Live TV. Hey, mutant freaks,

804
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: you know, mutant freaks, Yeah, performance enhancing. We don't know

805
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: what Elmo was on in this appearance, but you know,

806
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: we we've been we've been debating what whether Elmo would

807
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: win in a fight with Big Bird that Elmo's I

808
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about how big Bird has eyes

809
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: facing forward, so definitely a predator. But then Miles he

810
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: pointed out Elmo's eyes are as close together as we've.

811
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: Ever seen as forward.

812
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like Elmo is, you know, possibly an apex predator,

813
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: possibly a super predator. But yeah, just broadly, this kind

814
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: of has nothing to do with that. But he made

815
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: an appearance on the Today Show, Elmo did, and man,

816
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: it just keeps raining ship on Elmo.

817
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, gus, because like, yeah, obviously this was that tweet

818
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: that went viral. Bobby like, hey, just check it in

819
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: with you guys. How's everyone's existential dread? And they're like, whoa,

820
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: this was not the ratio I was seeking here on

821
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: this tweet. But yeah, this is him on the Today

822
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: Show talking about that tweet, and then randomly Larry David

823
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 2: shows up to mush his face. I don't know, well,

824
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 2: you decide.

825
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 6: Let's go over to Alpha check of the weather and

826
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 6: wait wait wait wait wait wait wait.

827
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 2: Larry David, smushing his face, he took a swipe at

828
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: the dads permission before you touch people. Nor did you

829
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: hear his That was Elmo's dad, like like like fog

830
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: horn leghorn?

831
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, his dad.

832
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 6: His dad talks like this. He's like kind of a

833
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 6: Southern fried jazz hippie. But then we kind of fucked

834
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 6: up how I view Elmo. Like when I saw that,

835
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 6: I was like, man, I didn't I didn't want to

836
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 6: see his dad like I didn't. I didn't want to

837
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 6: know that stand italy by that his dad has like

838
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 6: a soul patch, you know. Yeah, his dad looks like

839
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 6: the dad who wasn't really there for every birthday.

840
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: I mean, he's like, hey, Elmo, you get my Columbia

841
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: House CDs that I said those were I got for

842
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: a penny that I thought you'd love.

843
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: His dad smells like sandal wood and weed for.

844
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, like in a little bit of petuli. Yeah, yeah,

845
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: you can't have a soul patch and not be fucking

846
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 2: with the petuli. But yeah, like like Larry David at

847
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: the end, he just yelled off everyone somebody had to

848
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: do it, and I'm like, I wasn't sure what he meant.

849
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: Was it? That is Larry David team Big Bird and

850
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 2: he's just letting him know what time it is, Like

851
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: he's like, bro, it's ugly for you every single time

852
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 2: I see you because all day?

853
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: Or is it that they made up the Big Bird

854
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 1: or like that was just something Molly overheard a parent

855
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: talking to their kid about. Ye, Like it's not a

856
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: national debate, Like no.

857
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: This is all stems from Molly overhearing a father and

858
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: daughter talk about this. A ro who could be Almo?

859
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: Who would win in a fight?

860
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, because well Big Bird was having like a big

861
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: social media moment this like very crafted. Big Bird shrunk

862
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: to small and like was like how am I going

863
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: to get back to being big? And like it was

864
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: getting some traction but not that much.

865
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 2: Mostly from nazis on Twitter, and then Almo just drops

866
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: it and is like how's everybody doing? And like everyone's like,

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Speaker 2: oh shit, Almo.

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Speaker 1: So we're like there's definitely some tension there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sure.

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Speaker 5: I mean I think of it more like you know,

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Speaker 5: the thought experiments, like how many babies would it take

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Speaker 5: to kill John Cena, Like, that's I think it would

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Speaker 5: take a few Elmos to take down. So that's right, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: how many Elmos would you need?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah. It's like it's interesting though, too, like how

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Speaker 2: people like their response to the clip wasn't necessarily like

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Speaker 2: why would Larry do David do that? So a lot

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Speaker 2: of people were like, why the fuck didn't Elmo's dad

879
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Speaker 2: do something? This man just pulled up on your fucking

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Speaker 2: child and wushed their mother fucking face in and he's

881
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Speaker 2: just like, hey, hey, hey, now hey, uh what the

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Speaker 2: what the fuck was that? So for me again, another

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Speaker 2: data point in the fight between Elmo and Big Bird.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry, like I think you know, as

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Speaker 2: a parent, you grabbing my kid, that's instant smoke for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's just that's guaranteed. But man, if Elmo's own daddy

887
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Speaker 2: ain't built for it, what's what chance the Elmo got,

888
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Speaker 2: you know? Even if he's speaking in third person. So

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't. I don't like how it looks.

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Speaker 2: I don't like how it looks for him.

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Speaker 5: Well a lot of I mean, the third person I've

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Speaker 5: noticed is like elite athletes, serial killers sometimes talking the

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Speaker 5: third person.

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Speaker 2: So maybe maybe, and maybe maybe seeing his father be

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Speaker 2: emasculated like that just on live television, maybe just the

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Speaker 2: thing that really pushes him over the line. When the

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Speaker 2: bell rings in that fight.

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Speaker 1: Elma looks like in the clip, Elmo looks a lot

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Speaker 1: like I did it whenever anybody would like fuck with

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Speaker 1: me as a kid, like just being like.

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Speaker 2: Just yeah, totally masculine, and then wait and then wait

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Speaker 2: to cry until your mom picked you up from school. Yes,

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Speaker 2: yeah that's me. That was just not anything, because the

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Speaker 2: very first word that comes out was going to be good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, are you okay, Jack, say something? Now say something?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yeah, I feel like Elmo, like me,

907
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Speaker 3: not built for it. But I think Lady David needs

908
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Speaker 3: to test you never know.

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Speaker 2: You'd be surprised what people unleash when they have it,

910
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 2: you know, bottled in for so long too. That's true.

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00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 2: It could come out people be like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: Elmo did not have to desecrate big Us corpse like that.

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Speaker 2: That was just a little bit. I didn't. I didn't

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Speaker 2: know he had that in him. But it's the darkness

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Speaker 2: Helm Well.

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Speaker 1: Aj Jacobs has been a real pleasure having you on

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Speaker 1: the daily ze Daily zeite Geist, where can people find you?

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Speaker 2: Follow you? All that good stuff?

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Speaker 5: Well, I loved it, Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 5: You know, the usual stuff A J. Jacobs on whatever

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Speaker 5: toxic social media there still is, and uh yeah, the puzzler.

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Speaker 5: That's what you should do is listen to the Puzzler

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Speaker 5: on iHeart Media. It's every day, but only eight minutes,

924
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Speaker 5: so you can still listen to your Daily zeite Geist

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Speaker 5: before or after whatever you go for.

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Speaker 2: And maybe Jack and I be on and will not

927
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Speaker 2: cry if we don't get nailed all the puzzles. I

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Speaker 2: can't guarantee that. I can't wait. I can't wait.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you've given us permission to be completely uh sadistic,

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Speaker 5: So this is.

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Speaker 2: Very what'd you think? What do you think of that puzzle?

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Speaker 2: You call my mom? Call my mom? I rolled over

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Speaker 2: my phone with my desk chair. Amazing. Is there a

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Speaker 2: work of media you've been enjoying? Aga?

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Speaker 5: You know what I like to watch nowadays is Netflix

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Speaker 5: shows that are set in other countries, but they're only

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Speaker 5: a little bit different. Like I would watch, you know,

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Speaker 5: an Italian show thinking like, oh, I'm going to learn

939
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Speaker 5: about the culture, and like the only difference is the

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Speaker 5: light switch.

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Speaker 2: Is slightly different.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and so it's a little a little sad because

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Speaker 5: it's like it used to be that countries were completely different.

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Speaker 5: But I guess there's something comforting about it as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, there's one. Actually I did like an Italian

947
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Speaker 5: Netflix show called The Law. According to Lydia Poet, I

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Speaker 5: think it was I'm only sixty percent sure, but it

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Speaker 5: was about the first Italian lawyer, first woman Italian the

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Speaker 5: first woman Italian lawyer, not the first Italian lawyer.

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Speaker 2: Very good.

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Speaker 1: All right, Miles, where can people find you as their

953
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Speaker 1: working media you've been enjoying.

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Speaker 2: Let's see you can find me on the AT based

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00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 2: platforms at Miles of Gray. Let's see you can find

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00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: Jack and on our basketball podcast and Jack got mad boosties.

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Speaker 7: And you know I'm watching I'm watching that reality TV

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Speaker 7: at one and a half X, you know, because I like,

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00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 7: I respect the content, but then I recap it over

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Speaker 7: on four to twenty day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra.

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Speaker 2: So come come come visit me over there? Will you?

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Speaker 2: Some tweets I like? First one is from at site

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Speaker 2: Chris that tweeted site Chris Hill site Chris. Yeah no,

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Speaker 2: see ite site or no, you know what it is.

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Speaker 2: It could be city, Chris. I don't know with an

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Speaker 2: H on the end, how people make fun of how

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Speaker 2: man cunions say city, but the treats said quote, Hey, sorry,

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Speaker 2: I didn't reply. My wife was making me watch our

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Speaker 2: five month old for a bit. But I'm back now

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Speaker 2: you're so hot loll and then open Mike Egle past

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Speaker 2: guest front of the show at Mike Underscore, Egle tweeted

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Speaker 2: Taylor SWI Taylor Swift should invite Colin Kaeberneck to her

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Speaker 2: super Bowl suite for the added chaos. I love that.

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Speaker 2: That's a great idea. She should absolutely do that. The

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Speaker 2: right would actually someone would actually cease to exist. I

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Speaker 2: think like the outrage would be so they somehow physically

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Speaker 2: could not handle it, like turn into pink mist on

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Speaker 2: the spot.

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Speaker 1: A couple of people on Twitter were retweeting this old

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Speaker 1: performance by Radiohead on SNL. There's just like every once

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Speaker 1: in a while there's an old SNL performance that I

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Speaker 1: just can't stop watching, and this is Radiohead performing the

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Speaker 1: national Anthem from Tom Tom York is is really you

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Speaker 1: know Tom York.

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Speaker 2: In it up? So I enjoy that, Go seek it out.

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Speaker 1: Zach Pugh was one of the people who tweeted it,

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Speaker 1: and then I also enjoyed this from Eddie Robson.

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Speaker 2: I felt called out by this one, and he said, Oh,

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Speaker 2: January has been going on so long, when will it end?

990
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Speaker 1: Well, now it has and what have we got February?

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Speaker 2: Well done, you idiots? And yeah, that's how I was feeling.

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00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you can find me enjoying tweets like that on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Daily Zeikeeis. We're at the Daily Zeikeeist on Instagram.

996
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fanpage and a website Daily zeitgeist

997
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: dot com where we post our episodes and our footnotes

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Speaker 1: no where we link off to the information that we

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Speaker 1: talked about in today's episode, as well as a song

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Speaker 1: that we think you might enjoy.

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Speaker 2: Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy it?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: Luckily, one of my favorite bands, Hiatus Coyote from Australia.

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Speaker 2: They have a new single out and they haven't put

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Speaker 2: an album out since twenty twenty one and I and

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Speaker 2: before that they're out. Took like six years for the

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Speaker 2: that album to come out, so We've been blessed with

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Speaker 2: a new single called Everything's Beautiful, and this track is

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Speaker 2: very beautiful, uh, just giving a gift and giving us

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Speaker 2: that rhythm in an odd meter and Nay Palm's voice

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00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 2: is fantastic, the bass playing and drumming is fantastic. Everything

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00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 2: about this band is so dope.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And so I hope you enjoyed this going into your weekend,

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Speaker 2: and hope that Everything's Beautiful because that's the name of

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Speaker 2: this track by Hiatus Coyote.

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Speaker 1: All right, we will link off to that in the

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Speaker 1: foot notes. The Daily Guys is a production of iHeart

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Speaker 1: Radio from our podcast from my Heart Radio, the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: ab Apple Podcaster. Wherever fine podcasts are given away for free,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us this week. We are

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Speaker 1: back on Monday morning to tell you what is trending

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Speaker 1: and we will talk to you all that.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye bye