WEBVTT - Wanna Protest Quaker-Style? Pull Out Your Tits

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<v Speaker 3>But blah blah blah, announcements. Now we're going to get

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<v Speaker 3>into some history, and we're going to go back to

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<v Speaker 3>colonial times, because I feel like we've been dwelling a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>and by we, I mean I specifically have been writing

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<v Speaker 3>scripts about the nineteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>Century, and so I'm a bit tired of that.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's go back to the colonial times, back to

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<v Speaker 3>the Massachusetts Bay Colony, back to those Puritans, and learn

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<v Speaker 3>some filth about them. One of the most ironic things

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<v Speaker 3>about the Puritans, who fled to the American colonies in

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<v Speaker 3>the seventeenth century so that they could practice their religion

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<v Speaker 3>is that once they were here, they were not open

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<v Speaker 3>to people practicing another religion.

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<v Speaker 2>Specifically, let's zoom in.

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<v Speaker 3>On the Massachusetts Bay Colony, because there it was actually

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<v Speaker 3>illegal to not go to church on Sunday, Puritan style,

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<v Speaker 3>and if you didn't go, you got fined. Also, you

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<v Speaker 3>often would get the living shit kicked out of you.

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<v Speaker 3>But I suppose you deserved it because you made God mad.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the groups who were super persecuted by the

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<v Speaker 3>Puritans was the oatmeal people, Yes, the Quakers. And you

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<v Speaker 3>know how one Quaker resisted these Puritans, Well, she went

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<v Speaker 3>to church with her tits out cue the theme song.

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<v Speaker 3>This is American filth and I'm Gabby Watts. Every week

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<v Speaker 3>I tell you a filthy story from American history. This

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<v Speaker 3>week Quaker jugs. So what does it mean to be

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<v Speaker 3>a Quaker? I called it one of my good friends

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<v Speaker 3>Mary At a Mendler who grew up amongst the Quakers,

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<v Speaker 3>to tell me about it. Thanks for being the Quaker

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<v Speaker 3>representative for this week. I think it's a really important

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<v Speaker 3>historical role to have. What is Quakerism and how is it?

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<v Speaker 3>How is it different from other types of like Protestantism.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so it was really cool is that Quackerism was

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<v Speaker 4>started by this man named George Fox in England. And

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<v Speaker 4>George Fox looks at the King and was like, with

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<v Speaker 4>mine's so special, Like we're both humans, aren't we? Like

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<v Speaker 4>why am I bowing to you? Like we're all We're

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<v Speaker 4>all the same, We're all humans.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the King was.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, well, I'm gonna cut your head off.

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<v Speaker 2>If you say them about loud.

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<v Speaker 4>So he was like So then he moved to America

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<v Speaker 4>and that's when Quakerism really got stronger. And there's two

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<v Speaker 4>different types of Quakerism in America. But I was and

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<v Speaker 4>can speak to what qua Kearism means for being on

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<v Speaker 4>the on the eastern side unorganized Quaker and that meant

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<v Speaker 4>that we would go to meeting on Sundays. Sometimes there

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<v Speaker 4>would be an hour long like adult discussion before meeting.

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<v Speaker 4>A meeting would just be we would sing three songs.

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<v Speaker 4>We'd all come to a consensus on what three songs

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<v Speaker 4>we wanted to sing, and then sit in silence for

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<v Speaker 4>forty five minutes and if anyone is moved to speak

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<v Speaker 4>during that time, then they can. But it's just something

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<v Speaker 4>like a space where you can say what the light

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<v Speaker 4>moves you to say. And that's something that they say

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<v Speaker 4>in Quackrism a lot is that everyone has the same

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<v Speaker 4>light within them and you can be moved by the

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<v Speaker 4>light to speak in Quakerism, or you can also ask

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<v Speaker 4>your fellow people to hold someone in the light if

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<v Speaker 4>you're like thinking of someone or if someone's going through

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<v Speaker 4>a rough time.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever been moved to speak?

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<v Speaker 2>I truly if you believe it, I'm signlent.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, oh wow, Mary, I don't know speaking the

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<v Speaker 3>first forty five minutes in which you haven't said a word.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've always been too scared. And did you know

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<v Speaker 4>that that's how they got the name Quaker was because

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<v Speaker 4>originally they're called the Society of Friends.

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<v Speaker 2>But then some people.

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<v Speaker 4>This might be a rumor too, but this is always

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<v Speaker 4>what I heard was that ya on.

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<v Speaker 3>This podcast, we don't like I don't like to verify

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<v Speaker 3>and foe.

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<v Speaker 4>So go ahead, okay, perfect, perfect when you have to

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<v Speaker 4>speak of the stand up in front of and talk

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<v Speaker 4>to everyone. And my meeting was really small, but some

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<v Speaker 4>of them are a lot larger, and so then they

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<v Speaker 4>noticed that people were shaking a little bit while they

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<v Speaker 4>were talking. And then that's why they were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>look at you guys, quake in while you're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>A bunch of Quakers.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the Quakers were like, that's right, we are

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<v Speaker 4>Quakers because sometimes we're scared, and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So they took like the slur against them and they

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<v Speaker 3>empowered themselves with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I mean I was reading about it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>this episode is mostly about in the seventeenth century when

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<v Speaker 3>it kind of got going, but it seemed that I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously you're talking about the king. Obviously the king was like,

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<v Speaker 3>George Fox, I'm gonna cut your freakin head off for

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<v Speaker 3>saying these crazy things that you can like also access

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<v Speaker 3>God in a way that like I can that we're

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<v Speaker 3>not different blah blah blah. But you know, or were

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<v Speaker 3>there other do you know of, like you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>other reasons of why Puritans just freaking hated them?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think a big reason why Puritans would have

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<v Speaker 4>hated them is because they would have, especially in the

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<v Speaker 4>seventeen hundreds, they were really into being simple, and you

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<v Speaker 4>would think that Puritans would love that, but because they

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<v Speaker 4>did have that, you know, that really simple garb that

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<v Speaker 4>you see on the quick Grove no box.

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<v Speaker 2>But then they eventually.

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<v Speaker 4>Realized that like looking like especially simple made them come

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<v Speaker 4>across as like better than I everybody, or like that

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<v Speaker 4>they thought they were different than everybody, and then they

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<v Speaker 4>were like, the whole point of this is that we're

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<v Speaker 4>all the same, so we should just all just the saying.

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<v Speaker 4>I know they were they were really into prison abolition,

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<v Speaker 4>that's good, and Puritans love to bring.

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<v Speaker 3>Puritans love prison, and they hate witches, and it seems

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<v Speaker 3>like they kind of thought that the Quakers were witches

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<v Speaker 3>too rude.

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<v Speaker 4>But I can see how maybe they thought that maybe

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<v Speaker 4>they were like, what are you guys even thinking about

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<v Speaker 4>if you no one's telling you what to think.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Also, like if you're wearing a simple clothes, that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's what witches love to wear, because you know, witches,

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<v Speaker 3>they always be taking their rubes. They'd be disrobing all

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<v Speaker 3>the time to go dance with satan you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, and Quakers love square dancing and that could

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<v Speaker 4>look satanic probably the Puritans.

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<v Speaker 3>That is pretty satan like Docy dough your partner. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's basically that's basically speaking that the tongue of snakes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's basically what that is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you yeah, and that's where all all Quakers know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all Quakers know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, his children.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not to speak for all Quakers, but all Quakers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, I think they'd all back me up.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone you meet on the Eastern side.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yeah. Why why are they called friends?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you know, I should I should know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, No, I'll just I'll just I'll do a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of research and I'll just mention it on the pod.

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<v Speaker 3>No worries, because you know, I guess it is rude

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<v Speaker 3>to me to be like Marietta, you explain all of Quakerism.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to bother so rude.

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<v Speaker 4>I shouldn't know why. I guess maybe George Tunks was

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<v Speaker 4>just was just chilling. I feel like it just started

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<v Speaker 4>as a friend group.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, these are we're all my friends. These are

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<v Speaker 4>the homies. We chill and we give each other advice

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<v Speaker 4>on stuff. And what's nice is that, Like you know

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<v Speaker 4>how people go to their minister or the priest for

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<v Speaker 4>advice and plagiarism, you just form a committee. You ask

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<v Speaker 4>them to form a committee to help you think through something,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you just get another little group of friends

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<v Speaker 4>to help you with stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh nice, like a panel of pals.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly, exactly. Society of friends, panel of pals.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like, I like the idea. Society of the homies.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really what.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly, you're all just chilling.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well that you've heard it here, folks. What is Quakerism?

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<v Speaker 3>It's where you're just chilling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Mary Etta, thank you so much for your insights

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<v Speaker 3>on this would be really helpful for the episode that

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<v Speaker 3>we're about to do. So thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 3>being the spokesperson of all Quakers.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, honor.

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<v Speaker 3>That was Marietta Mendler, our Quaker correspondent for the show,

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<v Speaker 3>and I guess I did a little bit of research,

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<v Speaker 3>I suppose, just to clarify a couple things. So the

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<v Speaker 3>Quaker founder George Fox, apparently the reason they're called friends

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<v Speaker 3>is after a Bible verse from John fifteen fourteen that says,

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<v Speaker 3>you are my friends if I do what I command you.

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<v Speaker 3>So I guess what means to be a Quaker is

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<v Speaker 3>that God he's like your pal. You know, he's your friend.

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<v Speaker 3>No friends do they command you to do stuff. That's

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<v Speaker 3>how I express my friendship. I just I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>acts of service, just like the Lord. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're trying to think about Quakers, some things that

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<v Speaker 3>they believe in is that God is everywhere. We should

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<v Speaker 3>have community, there should be a quality. They were very

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<v Speaker 3>much involved in social justice. I mean, early on some

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<v Speaker 3>Quakers did own slaves, but they were prohibited from owning

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<v Speaker 3>slaves starting in seventeen some and they were some early

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<v Speaker 3>abolitionists in the new United States of America. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they were pacifists. They were very anti authority, they're very

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<v Speaker 3>anti prison. You know, they would wear the simple dress.

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<v Speaker 3>They were into being frugal, didn't like excess and Obviously

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<v Speaker 3>the Puritans were like, fuf fricking hate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Boo Quakers.

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<v Speaker 3>But as I was talking about with Marietta, so the

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<v Speaker 3>Quakers were absolutely despised.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Like if.

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<v Speaker 3>We're looking at the mid seventeenth century in the colonies

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<v Speaker 3>and also in Mummy England, the Quakers were being rounded

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<v Speaker 3>up and jailed and then also having the ship beat

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<v Speaker 3>out of them. And you know what was so bad

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<v Speaker 3>about them according to the Puritans, Well, you know, they

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<v Speaker 3>were weird, they were radical. They were saying, like anyone

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<v Speaker 3>can access God's insane. The Puritan elite they like to

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<v Speaker 3>gate keep God. They're like, no, you need us to

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<v Speaker 3>access God. Ugh, you guys are crazy. And then sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>Quakers with their meetings, with their beliefs, they were kind

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<v Speaker 3>of mystical in some ways, and so a lot of people, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they're like, uugh, quakersm that's basically like being a witch.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't like that. And so yeah, the Quakers, they

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<v Speaker 3>weren't having a great time. And in sixteen sixty three

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<v Speaker 3>there was this one Quaker, Lydia Perkins Wardell, and she

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<v Speaker 3>was about to experience some of that Puritan wrath. Lucky her,

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<v Speaker 3>so Lydia was born a regular old Puritan in the

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<v Speaker 3>Massachusetts Bay Colony. She was described as young and tender,

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<v Speaker 3>a chaste woman. But then she got married to this

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<v Speaker 3>dude named Elia Kim, and that's when he and thus

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<v Speaker 3>she became a Quaker. Because that's what you do as

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<v Speaker 3>a dutiful wife. You convert to a religion where they

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<v Speaker 3>beat the shit out of you. Excellent idea, like him,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been meaning to get some whippings.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you know, she might have liked being a Quaker.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Her perspective wasn't written down, how helpful. But anyway, no

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<v Speaker 3>matter how she felt about it, she was likely very

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<v Speaker 3>aware about what was going on with Quakers. She probably

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<v Speaker 3>knew about the tale of Anne Austin Mary Fisher. For example.

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<v Speaker 3>They were both Quakers from London, and they were like, huzzah,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to go take everything George Fox has said

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<v Speaker 3>and spread it around the New World. So they got

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<v Speaker 3>on this boat called the Swallow. They went over to Barbados.

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<v Speaker 3>People in Barbados were like, hey, this actually seems like

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<v Speaker 3>a cool idea. That's interesting. But then Anne and Mary

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<v Speaker 3>were about to have a terrible time because they decided

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<v Speaker 3>to sail up to the northern colonies, And when they arrived,

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<v Speaker 3>the deputy governor of the Massachusetts Colony, Richard Bellingham, ordered

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<v Speaker 3>them to be detained on board. Some officers searched their

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<v Speaker 3>stuff and seized one hundred books of theirs, carried them

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<v Speaker 3>off the boat and burned them. Also, he imagined, and

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<v Speaker 3>traveling with one hundred books, what a burden doesn't all

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<v Speaker 3>fit in a carry on? And now why did Richard

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<v Speaker 3>Bellingham order them to burn those books? When the two

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<v Speaker 3>women arrived on July eleventh, sixteen fifty six, he called

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<v Speaker 3>a council together in Boston, and they said this, upon examination,

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<v Speaker 3>are found not only to be transgressors of the former laws,

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<v Speaker 3>but to hold very dangerous, heretical and blasphemous opinions. And

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<v Speaker 3>they do also acknowledge that they came here purposely to

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<v Speaker 3>propagate their said errors and heresies, bringing with them and

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<v Speaker 3>spreading here sundry books wherein are contained most corrupt, heretical

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<v Speaker 3>and blasphemous doctrines contrary to the truth of the Gospel.

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<v Speaker 3>Here professed a us dangerous, heretical, blasphemous I think that

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<v Speaker 3>could be a good song. But anyway, after that, Mary

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<v Speaker 3>and Anne's ordeal got even worse. The two of them

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<v Speaker 3>were thrown in jail and they weren't even allowed to

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<v Speaker 3>use a candle to light the room they were in.

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<v Speaker 3>Then they were stripped naked and examined in all their

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<v Speaker 3>nooks and crannies because you know, that's where Quakerism is.

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<v Speaker 2>And apparently one of.

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<v Speaker 3>Their examiners was a man disguised in woman's clothing, so

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<v Speaker 3>just a little pervert trying to get some action. After

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<v Speaker 3>that examination, their cell was locked and boarded up. Not

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<v Speaker 3>even food could get into where they were, and so

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<v Speaker 3>the attention of these Massachusetts Bay Puritans was basically to

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<v Speaker 3>starve them. But luckily for these two ladies, there was

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<v Speaker 3>an innkeeper who was really sympathetic to their cause, and

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<v Speaker 3>so he bribed the jailer to give them food and

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<v Speaker 3>then they were released.

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<v Speaker 2>Five weeks later.

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<v Speaker 3>They got back on board their boat, went to Barbados

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<v Speaker 3>and then back to England, so their trip not necessarily successful.

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<v Speaker 3>But that innkeeper who helped them out he became a

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<v Speaker 3>Quaker and started spreading the Quakerism around and then literally

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<v Speaker 3>a few days after Anne and Mary left, some other

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<v Speaker 3>Quakers landed in the Massachusetts Bay colony and those dudes

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<v Speaker 3>were also imprisoned.

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<v Speaker 2>They were also released several.

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<v Speaker 3>Weeks later after a lot of torture and torment. But

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<v Speaker 3>when the second round of Quaker missionaries landed, that's when

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<v Speaker 3>the people in the Massachusetts Bay Colony were like, we

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<v Speaker 3>need to pass some laws that are anti Quaker. The

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<v Speaker 3>first law was like, if Quakers got on a boat

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<v Speaker 3>from England over to the Colonies, the captain of that

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<v Speaker 3>boat is not allowed to let them get on land.

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<v Speaker 2>If the captain lets.

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<v Speaker 3>The Quakers off the boat, he has to page a

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<v Speaker 3>huge fine because yuck Quakers. And then another law was like,

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<v Speaker 3>but if a Quaker does make it onto the land,

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<v Speaker 3>they are to be committed to the House of Correction

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<v Speaker 3>where they must be severely whipped. And then we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>make them do hard labor constantly, and no one is

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<v Speaker 3>allowed to talk to them.

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<v Speaker 2>The next year got even crazier.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a law that was passed that said, any

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<v Speaker 3>Quaker that enters Massachusetts Bay Colony must have one of

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<v Speaker 3>his ears cut off, and then if he keeps being

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<v Speaker 3>a Quaker, he'll lose another ear, and then for the

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<v Speaker 3>third time, if he's still being a Quaker, they'd pull

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<v Speaker 3>out this man's tongue and stick it through with a

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<v Speaker 3>hot iron. Yikes, that's apparently just for the dude Quakers.

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<v Speaker 3>The women Quakers, all they have to do is get

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<v Speaker 3>beat severely. Then in sixteen sixty one there was another

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<v Speaker 3>decree that said any wandering Quakers will be apprehended, strip

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<v Speaker 3>naked from the middle upward, tied to carts, and then

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<v Speaker 3>whipped through the town. And at this point the colony's

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<v Speaker 3>prisons were filled with Quakers, and there was even four

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<v Speaker 3>executions people being executed just for being Quakers. But then

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<v Speaker 3>King Charles the Second put out this decree that was like, hey, guys, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>but you can't actually kill the Quakers just because they're Quakers.

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<v Speaker 3>So calm down, sure beat them whatever, just no executions, thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>For everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>In the Massachusetts Bay Colony, it was illegal to not

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<v Speaker 3>go to Puritan church on Sundays. If you didn't go

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<v Speaker 3>to church, you got fined or they might give you

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<v Speaker 3>one of those severe whippings. And so back to Lydia. Lydia,

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<v Speaker 3>as a Quaker, knew about this punishment. She had probably

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<v Speaker 3>witnessed this, specifically in the case of three other women

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<v Speaker 3>and coleman, Mary Tomkins and Alice Ambrose in sixteen sixty two.

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<v Speaker 3>A year before this happened to Lydia, Tompkins and Ambrose

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<v Speaker 3>had tried to organize a Quaker group in Dover, but

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<v Speaker 3>then the police, I said, the police, the Purton's not

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<v Speaker 3>the police. The Peerton elite were like, get the hell

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<v Speaker 3>out of here. So the two of them left. But

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<v Speaker 3>then a year later they were determined to get Quakerism

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<v Speaker 3>in Dover, so they came back, and this time they

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<v Speaker 3>were joined by Coleman, and they started another group, but

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<v Speaker 3>were quickly discovered, and then the magistrate ordered their punishment.

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<v Speaker 3>The punishment read, you and the King's name are to

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<v Speaker 3>take these vagabond Quakers and Coleman, Marry Tompkins and Alice

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<v Speaker 3>Ambrose and fastened them to a cart's tail, driving the

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<v Speaker 3>cart through several towns, whipped them on their backs ten

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<v Speaker 3>times in each town, and so conveyed them from constable

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<v Speaker 3>to constable until they'd come out of this jurisdiction. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he was condemning them to a whipping tour. So in

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<v Speaker 3>the winter of sixteen sixty two, which is before global warming,

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<v Speaker 3>so I imagine it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Cold as hell.

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<v Speaker 3>They were indeed tied to a cart stripped from the

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<v Speaker 3>waist down and toted it from town to town being whipped.

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<v Speaker 3>Luckily they didn't have to finish their tour because in

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<v Speaker 3>Salisbury the authorities were like, this is too much, and

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<v Speaker 3>they released the three women. And you would think after

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<v Speaker 3>being on a whipping tour, tied to a cart with

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<v Speaker 3>your shirt taken off, that maybe you'd be encouraged not

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<v Speaker 3>to preach Quakerism in Dover. But these three women. A

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<v Speaker 3>year later, they went back to Dover yet again, and

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<v Speaker 3>this time the authorities dragged them down to the river

0:20:46.085 --> 0:20:50.245
<v Speaker 3>and were like, we're gonna drown you. But apparently during

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<v Speaker 3>this altercation a strong wind swept through which pushed back

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<v Speaker 3>the Puritan authorities and the women were able to escape.

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<v Speaker 3>This feels fake, but okay, but when these women were

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<v Speaker 3>tit out on their whipping tour, I mean they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>on purpose have their tits out, That's just what the

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<v Speaker 3>Puritans made them do. Lydia and her husband Alia him

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<v Speaker 3>were some of the spectators. You know, they had to

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<v Speaker 3>go support their friends, being like, I'm sorry you're getting whipped.

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<v Speaker 2>We're on your side.

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<v Speaker 3>They saw them when they were on their first stop

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<v Speaker 3>in Dover and the Puritan reverend there was being a

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<v Speaker 3>little bitch about it. He quote stood and looked and

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<v Speaker 3>laughed at it, and Eliakim was like, damn, this guy sucks.

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<v Speaker 3>He called him a brute and then for calling him that,

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<v Speaker 3>Aliakim was thrown in jail. But that wasn't the first

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<v Speaker 3>time Aliakim had been thrown in jail. Ever since they

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<v Speaker 3>had converted to Quakerism, Lydia and alike Him had been

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<v Speaker 3>having a hard time. Like him, was constantly harassed, he

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<v Speaker 3>was beaten up. But this Quaker couple did some pretty

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<v Speaker 3>radical stuff. They hid notable Quakers in their home who

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<v Speaker 3>were fleeing prosecution. At one point, there was actually a

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<v Speaker 3>raid on their household, which was encouraged by a local

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<v Speaker 3>reverend who was trying to quote keep the wolves from

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<v Speaker 3>his sheep. Oh, you know, those aggressive pacifist Quakers. And

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<v Speaker 3>along with all this physical punishment, Elia Him had also

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<v Speaker 3>been fined multiple times for not going to church, and

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<v Speaker 3>with all of these finds that he constantly got, basically

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<v Speaker 3>all of his assets had been taken away from him

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<v Speaker 3>and his family. He was also getting fined for Lydia's

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<v Speaker 3>absence from church, and eventually, because the Puritans had done

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<v Speaker 3>just about everything to alia him that they could, because remember,

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<v Speaker 3>you couldn't just kill Quakers anymore. The church summoned Lydia

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<v Speaker 3>to answer for her absence from church and for quote

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<v Speaker 3>teaching false doctrine, and so Lydia, probably understanding that what

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<v Speaker 3>happened to them those women in Dover was about to

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<v Speaker 3>happen to her, she was like, HM, let's protest this shit.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't got nothing to lose. So she went down

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<v Speaker 3>to the church, but before she entered, she stripped off

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<v Speaker 3>her petticoat. So she walked into that church with her

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<v Speaker 3>Quaker jugs out and bobbin, we'll be right back after

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<v Speaker 3>these soothing advertisements.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, what a sight.

0:23:37.845 --> 0:23:45.005
<v Speaker 3>Lydia walked into that church bear breasted at Sunday Church. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>if that happened more often.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I would go to church.

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<v Speaker 3>But Lyddia was there protesting the law that said you

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<v Speaker 3>had to go to Puriton Church with her titties out

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<v Speaker 3>for everyone to see. She knew the consequences, and she

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I'm freeing the Quakers by freeing the nipple.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't actually say that, and I'm sure this caused

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<v Speaker 3>a frickin' scene for those Puritans.

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<v Speaker 2>Puritans hated nudity.

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<v Speaker 3>They were like, nudity is evil unless you are married

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<v Speaker 3>and doing some pro creating, or if we're whipping you.

0:24:19.445 --> 0:24:24.525
<v Speaker 3>Hypocritical Puritans would never be. But the thing is Lydia,

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<v Speaker 3>she wasn't the first Quaker to go naked out in

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<v Speaker 3>these streets. See, there was actually a trend going on

0:24:31.525 --> 0:24:35.645
<v Speaker 3>in Quakerism called going naked as a sign, a sign

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<v Speaker 3>for what you might ask well, a sign of being

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<v Speaker 3>close to the Lord. So you remember George Fox, who

0:24:43.285 --> 0:24:47.925
<v Speaker 3>Marietta was talking about, Who's the dude who founded Quakerism.

0:24:48.365 --> 0:24:51.445
<v Speaker 3>In sixteen fifty two, he wrote a letter that said, quote,

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<v Speaker 3>the Lord made one to go naked among you a

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<v Speaker 3>figure of thy nakedness and of your nakedness, and as

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<v Speaker 3>a sign amongst you before your destruction cometh, that you

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<v Speaker 3>might see that you were naked and not covered with

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<v Speaker 3>the truth. And George FLOGGX I don't know if he

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<v Speaker 3>was trying to be taken seriously, but it does sound

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<v Speaker 3>like he's pretty pro nudity as a sign of being

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<v Speaker 3>close with the Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>And after he wrote that, there was.

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<v Speaker 3>A slew of naked cases where Quakers would just be

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<v Speaker 3>walking around in the streets of England in some sort

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<v Speaker 3>of state of undress. Like in one small town in England,

0:25:31.965 --> 0:25:35.965
<v Speaker 3>two Quakers who called themselves Adam and Eve quote went

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<v Speaker 3>for some while, as some uncivilized heathens do, discovering their

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<v Speaker 3>nakedness to the eye of every beholder. Then there was

0:25:47.085 --> 0:25:49.365
<v Speaker 3>a case where a Quaker ran through a town and

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<v Speaker 3>nothing but his shirt, calling on people to repent, trying

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<v Speaker 3>to convert people with your dick out. Now that's an

0:25:56.285 --> 0:26:01.965
<v Speaker 3>effective missionary. And these naked events they kept happening sporadically.

0:26:02.525 --> 0:26:03.725
<v Speaker 2>There was even a guy who.

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<v Speaker 3>Went around naked for three years. But back to Lydia.

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<v Speaker 3>After her shocking scene as a naked Quaker at the church,

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<v Speaker 3>she was ordered to appear in court. That hearing was

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<v Speaker 3>on May fifth, sixteen sixty three, and there she did

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<v Speaker 3>wear her clothes, but she was sentenced to a severe punishment.

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<v Speaker 3>First she was fined two shillings and sixpence for not

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<v Speaker 3>attending church, and then she had to basically reimburse the

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<v Speaker 3>marshal who brought her to court for the expenses of

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<v Speaker 3>their travel, which was like ten shillings, which honestly that

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<v Speaker 3>seems like a lot. Like was this marshal like a

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<v Speaker 3>donkey and buggy uber service at peak hours. And then finally,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, Lydia was sentenced to be quote severely whipped,

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<v Speaker 3>and indeed her whipping was quite severe. She was dragged

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<v Speaker 3>from the courtroom down to a nearby tavern where she

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<v Speaker 3>was stripped down to the wat tits out again and

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<v Speaker 3>then tied to a splintery post. It seems back in

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<v Speaker 3>the day there was a lot of splintery posts and

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<v Speaker 3>a crowd gathered, specifically of men and boys, and she

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<v Speaker 3>was lashed somewhere between twenty and thirty times, which, as

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<v Speaker 3>one historical account said, tore her bosom. As she writhed

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<v Speaker 3>under the lash, yeah, can you.

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<v Speaker 2>Tore her bosom? Absolutely horrendous.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, after Lydia got her whipping, the Wardell family was like,

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<v Speaker 3>we gotta get the heck out of here. This place sucks.

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<v Speaker 3>We're losing all of our money, we're also being tortured.

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<v Speaker 3>So what they did is they moved to New Jersey, Ah,

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<v Speaker 3>New Jersey, where everyone wants to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go, but their lives were a lot better there.

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<v Speaker 3>Eliakim was able to become a Quaker minister, but after

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<v Speaker 3>this happened in sixteen sixty three, it was still freaking

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<v Speaker 3>hard to be a Quaker. George Fox eventually came over

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<v Speaker 3>to the colonies in the early sixteen seventies, but in

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<v Speaker 3>the Massachusetts Bay Colony there were still laws being passed

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<v Speaker 3>against Quaker stuff, like in sixteen seventy five, Quaker meetings

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<v Speaker 3>were banned. Then in sixteen seventy seven another law was

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<v Speaker 3>passed that said it was okay for the Puritan constables

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<v Speaker 3>to break into people's houses and arrest them if they

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<v Speaker 3>were suspected Quakers. But ye old Oatmeal people continued to protest.

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<v Speaker 3>One fun protest happened in sixteen seventy seven. A group

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<v Speaker 3>of Quakers went to go spook a congregation on a

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday morning, not by taking their tops off, but by

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<v Speaker 3>dressing up as the devil. The leader of the group

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<v Speaker 3>was named Margaret Brewster, and she wore a disguise of

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<v Speaker 3>a canvas frock, her hair dishoveled and loose like a

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<v Speaker 3>paara wig, her.

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<v Speaker 2>Face as black as ink.

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<v Speaker 3>And so this group of protesters and their outfits shuffled

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<v Speaker 3>in looking scary as hell, and the congregation of Puritans

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<v Speaker 3>was freaked out. Men were shouting, women were fainting classic.

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<v Speaker 3>But then the protesters were all arrested and court. The

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<v Speaker 3>magistrates were like, why the heck did you dress up

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<v Speaker 3>as the devil and terrify all these innocent Puritans, And

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<v Speaker 3>Margaret Brewster she was like, I'm protesting the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>we can't have Quaker meetings. She said, if you will

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<v Speaker 3>draw your swords against the Lord and his people, the

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<v Speaker 3>Lord will assuredly draw his sword against you, the sword

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<v Speaker 3>being we will dress up like the devil and freak

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<v Speaker 3>you out, and if you can believe it, she was

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<v Speaker 3>charged to find and also was stripped down to the waist,

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<v Speaker 3>tied to a cart, and whipped twenty times. Eventually it

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<v Speaker 3>got slightly better for the Quakers, okay, because there was

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<v Speaker 3>this guy, William penn He's one of the main Quakers.

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<v Speaker 3>He was given a charter from King Charles the second

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<v Speaker 3>and he went over to the colonies to make Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 3>where the.

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<v Speaker 2>Quakers could live in peace. Mar Lots of other stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Happened too, but that's where we're gonna end the tail,

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<v Speaker 3>with the Quakers in Pennsylvania and with Elia, Kim and

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<v Speaker 3>Lydia having a much better life in New Jersey, where

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't have to be constantly fined and beaten.

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<v Speaker 1>How nice.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course every episode we learn a lesson from

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<v Speaker 3>American Filth, and I think the lesson we learned today

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<v Speaker 3>in solidary with the Quakers is yeah, that was some

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<v Speaker 3>silence like a Quaker meeting. So if you fell moved,

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<v Speaker 3>feel free to speak up and say something.

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<v Speaker 2>Queue to the credits.

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<v Speaker 3>American Filth is a production of School of Humans and

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<v Speaker 3>by me Gabby Wattson.

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