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Speaker 2: into it. The Steelers beat the Giants twenty six eighteen.
Speaker 2: Benny Bishop Junior seals the game with a game ending interception.
Speaker 2: He had two last week against the Jets. He had
Speaker 2: another win tonight and it was a huge win against
Speaker 2: the Giants. They moved to six and two and are
Speaker 2: comfortable atop the LC North considering the Ravens lost yesterday.
Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Bengals are in a tailspin, and the Cleveland
Speaker 2: finally got won a game, but they're been hovering around
Speaker 2: bad to words. Yeah, as you can see our graphics,
Speaker 2: O Joe, we got graphics now, bro check that out.
Speaker 3: Can you see it on the board? No?
Speaker 5: No, now, where's that? Where's that? Let me see? Let
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Speaker 2: Twenty six six eighteen to the final. You got pass
Speaker 2: yards two fifty nine to two thirty seven, rush yards
Speaker 2: one sixty seven to one to fifty seven touchdowns, one
Speaker 2: with an asterisk because they threw one touchdown and the
Speaker 2: other touchdown came vill punt return. Four hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: six total yards for the Steelers, three ninety four for
Speaker 2: the Giants. I thought the Giants played rail. They ran
Speaker 2: the football. I thought Daniel Jones was throwing the ball well.
Speaker 2: But somehow that injury bug late and the ball gave
Speaker 2: I mean, excuse me, that turnover bug rears its head
Speaker 2: and it bites him at the most inopportune of because
Speaker 2: I thought up until that point he was twenty four
Speaker 2: to thirty five, two sixty four.
Speaker 3: Tracy ran the ball extremely well. Twenty carriers a buck
Speaker 3: forty five.
Speaker 2: They had twenty five rushes, one hundred and fifty seven
Speaker 2: yards in a touchdown Darius Slayton or catch us for
Speaker 2: a bucko eight neighbors seven for seventy one. So they
Speaker 2: were moving the ball, and I would like to see
Speaker 2: if they could have done something. But he got a
Speaker 2: little pressure, floated the ball over the running back's head
Speaker 2: at the end of the interception. Great job by Bennie
Speaker 2: Bishop Junior to seal that with an I INT. But
Speaker 2: he's got to get over that hump. That's the only
Speaker 2: thing that's written.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's hard to say what a play a quarterback can
Speaker 2: or couldn't be when he's known to turn the football
Speaker 2: over because he puts his teams in harm's way. Ojo,
Speaker 2: and all turnovers aren't created equal. Yeah that late in
Speaker 2: the ball game. You doomed and he turned the ball
Speaker 2: over in the first quarter.
Speaker 3: Oh shoe. You got a chance to overcome it, but
Speaker 3: not at that point. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Listen, you talk about turning the ball over. It interrupts
Speaker 1: the team, you know, and you doom turn him turned
Speaker 1: the ball over.
Speaker 5: That's what get to coach fired.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: Hey, I don't even know if Brian de Ball is
Speaker 1: on the hot seat, but the way danger playing, you know,
Speaker 1: who won't take who will take the issue for that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna get fired. Everybody's gonna get fired. Before I
Speaker 1: even talk about the game in general. I just want
Speaker 1: to salute the Steelers. I want to suit the Steelers.
Speaker 1: I want to salute Mike Thomon on on having to
Speaker 1: make a tough decision and Russell Wilson having Mike Thomins
Speaker 1: back on that decision he did, he made and keeping
Speaker 1: his promise and keeping his word. When he named the
Speaker 1: starter for the NFL season, it was Russell Wilson. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the injuries happened before the season started. Justin Feels came
Speaker 1: in and played phenomenal. Obviously, they started three and oher uh,
Speaker 1: then went the four and two. Then Russell Wilson took
Speaker 1: the hamlet. He's one of the last two games.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Tonight's game was really good. It started off really good,
Speaker 1: especially the run game. But it started very, very, very good.
Speaker 1: But it was the snooze fest. I'm gonna just be
Speaker 1: honest with you. The game was a snooze fest. The
Speaker 1: first quarter was the snooze fest, second quarter was the
Speaker 1: snooze fest. And somewhere at the middle of the third
Speaker 1: to the end of the game, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it gets excited. He's completing he's completing passes the Jefferson,
Speaker 1: He's completing passes to Tom god Damn George pickings.
Speaker 5: And pickings. Then pennies, penalties hurt, hurt the Steelers early
Speaker 5: in the game. I have to score. The score could
Speaker 5: have been much further away from this.
Speaker 1: If you take some of the pellings away, that takes
Speaker 1: some of the I think there's one, one or two
Speaker 1: touchdowns if I'm not mistaken, George Pickens.
Speaker 5: If you get both feet down, that's another test.
Speaker 3: Hell, I thought to one foot was right? Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I thought, I guess, but that's what I thought, thought
Speaker 3: you I honestly did you.
Speaker 5: Did it for real?
Speaker 3: I did?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: I know when he doubled up on the right, I
Speaker 1: knew they weren't gonna count it though, and then't gonna
Speaker 1: count it. But the nice game tonight. But tonight's game
Speaker 1: was really good. I'm really happy. I'm really happy, and
Speaker 1: I can say this is a bangle and I have
Speaker 1: no problem. I thought that the Steelers. I thought they
Speaker 1: were struggling. The season started because of the quarterback not
Speaker 1: really controversy, but because the quarterback carrousel.
Speaker 5: They obviously they started three and oh like, oh shit.
Speaker 1: Based on what I saw from Justin Fields last year,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what Justin Fields we would get because
Speaker 1: he was up and down when he was with Chicago.
Speaker 1: He comes out and plays phenomenal then the back change
Speaker 1: is made. I'm like, Oh, what, Russell Wilson. Are we
Speaker 1: gonna get? Are we gonna get Seattle Seahawk? Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: Are gonna get the last year Denver Russell Wilson. Dude,
Speaker 1: he's playing really good. He's playing really really good football.
Speaker 1: And man, salute salutes to the City of Hell. Salutor,
Speaker 1: Goddamn TJ fucking what Benny Bishop Joey put man? Them
Speaker 1: boys playing some ball.
Speaker 2: Man, Man, Look, I ain't not worried about what why?
Speaker 2: What's gonna go to the Hall of Fame. That's gonna
Speaker 2: be his next stop? If next stop is gonna be in.
Speaker 3: The Hall of Fame. He's that good.
Speaker 2: He's had that good a career. You look at a
Speaker 2: Player of the Year, a defensive player of the Year.
Speaker 2: He could have had another one of those wards. I
Speaker 2: think he finished second one year to Aaron Donald. He's
Speaker 2: routinely in double digit and sacks. No, not talking about
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about eleven to twelve. I'm talking about
Speaker 2: fifteen seventeen. He tied Michael Strahan's record of twenty two
Speaker 2: and a half sacks in a season. If anybody can
Speaker 2: break that record, I think it's gonna be him. He's
Speaker 2: extremely he's six foot tall. He's great with the he's great,
Speaker 2: he's tremendous with his hands, and great with the lockout
Speaker 2: the press. Ah man, he has no weakness when it
Speaker 2: comes to rushing the passer, and he's stout against the run.
Speaker 2: He can set the edge, which means he keeps his
Speaker 2: outside shoulder free. You're not getting the edge on him.
Speaker 2: You're not getting the edge on him, So don't even
Speaker 2: run over there. You better run him aside because he's
Speaker 2: a hell of a he's a hell of a guy
Speaker 2: setting the edge. And when you play that, when you
Speaker 2: play that defense, and most of the time oho in
Speaker 2: a three four defense, you want big, strong, physical linebackers
Speaker 2: because most of the time they're massed up against tackles.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, massed up again.
Speaker 2: So when you go back to look at it, you
Speaker 2: look at that defense. Bill Belichick, he had lt he
Speaker 2: had Carl Banks, you look at him. He had William McGinnis,
Speaker 2: he had Brabel, he had Van Oi, he had a
Speaker 2: uh ninkle bitch. That's what you have to have, guys,
Speaker 2: six four two forty five, two fifty two sixty that
Speaker 2: set the edge, that could hump anchor down, because then
Speaker 2: you can't let him run the football. Bill Belichick said it,
Speaker 2: we stopped to run. We make you one dimensional. Same
Speaker 2: thing with the Steelers, one dimension. You look at Porter,
Speaker 2: you look at all those Jason Gildens, all those guys
Speaker 2: that have had set the edge extremely well.
Speaker 1: Listen, Giants, Giants, Giants, Brookie Tracy's a rookie, ain't he.
Speaker 3: I think so?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jack, Giants, rookie had had some had had a
Speaker 5: good day on on the ground. Running the ball.
Speaker 3: Oh he ran, he ran extremely well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he ran the ball really well. But that that
Speaker 5: God damn TJ. Watt Man.
Speaker 1: Every every game he played, every game is played. You
Speaker 1: just ran off some of his accolades and he's going
Speaker 1: to be a Hall of Famer. But yeah, at the
Speaker 1: defensive end, he has a multitude of moves that he
Speaker 1: has a monk. He can bull rush you, he can
Speaker 1: he can spin move, he get he can attack you
Speaker 1: on the upfield, show he gettack you on the on
Speaker 1: the inside the end.
Speaker 5: Oh no, he just could do everything. So I'm watching
Speaker 5: the game. Normally I watched the wide receivers, I'm watching
Speaker 5: the ride receivers and the DB's go at it. But
Speaker 5: just watching T. J. Watt play him to play where
Speaker 5: he got the strip sack right, you got the strips
Speaker 5: every cup of the fumble.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my first is I know the back has to
Speaker 1: go out, but even so, he couldn't chip. He couldn't chip,
Speaker 1: and then left the right tackle out there and left
Speaker 1: the right tackle out there on his own.
Speaker 2: No, all, I don't know why, why would why would
Speaker 2: you do that? Yeah, trouble, especially in that that that
Speaker 2: scenario you're asking for trouble. He's not a guy that
Speaker 2: you better have. You better have a uh uh what's
Speaker 2: the guy? Uh t dove? You better have a trimp Williams. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well you have better have the right tackle at Philly.
Speaker 2: It's the right tackle name of Philly from Oklahoma, but
Speaker 2: not leon. Uh what's his name?
Speaker 3: Damn?
Speaker 2: Why is it slipping my mind? I know he's really
Speaker 2: he's really good. Yeah, we ain't Lane Johnson. You better
Speaker 2: have a Lane Johnson.
Speaker 5: He's really good.
Speaker 2: Cause you got some are arbitrary tackle me and a guy. Okay,
Speaker 2: he's the starting right tackle. Noah, don't play around with him.
Speaker 2: He ain't to be messed with. He demands more of
Speaker 2: your respect. Than that, and he's the guy offensively when
Speaker 2: we go in on Wednesday, he's circle. Yes, he's a
Speaker 2: guy we He's a guy we've got to account for
Speaker 2: because if we don't account for him, he's gonna wreck
Speaker 2: od offense. Those guys you circle them, the Reggie Wife,
Speaker 2: the Lawrence Taylors, the Derreck Thomas' those were the guys that.
Speaker 2: The Bruce Smiths, those were the guys that we have
Speaker 2: circle that if you if you didn't block him, you
Speaker 2: couldn't win. The Ray Lewis is at the middle linebacker. Oh, Dion,
Speaker 2: don't don't worry about him. Hey, guys, you're gonna get
Speaker 2: some great cardio today. We ain't empy with him. I hey, hey,
Speaker 2: you're getting cardio in. You won't have to run on
Speaker 2: Monday because you will get a lot of running today.
Speaker 2: But we ain't throwing you the ball.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But that's how good. That's how good. T. J.
Speaker 3: Watte is.
Speaker 2: Uh, his brother was the same way. JJ had a motors.
Speaker 2: They got motors. They're Midwestern kids, hardworking, they grew up.
Speaker 2: I mean, to have two brothers that dominate like they can.
Speaker 5: That's crazy. Listen, you know how hard it is to
Speaker 5: have siblings that are both good at a sport.
Speaker 1: Damn how hard it is normally is rough off and
Speaker 1: talent and yes, yes, the fact they were, they're not
Speaker 1: very many. Tiki Barber, Santana's Norris Moss, t J t J,
Speaker 1: t J Watt, j Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa.
Speaker 2: I mean, Eli, you got Ron Day and Tik me
Speaker 2: and my brother Klay and Bruce Matthews. They've been they've
Speaker 2: been some brothers. Yeah, d jokers here. I mean you
Speaker 2: had Walter and Eddie Payton. You know that there have
Speaker 2: been some brothers, man, but a these two, these two
Speaker 2: hell raisers here. Man, Hey, hey, Justin James uh jj.
Speaker 2: I don't know what TJ first Day baby, he's James too.
Speaker 2: But there's some a them corn fan wheat harvested and
Speaker 2: white white white boys from what it from Wisconsin and
Speaker 2: then from Wisconsin right Wisconsin. Yeah, Okay, Trent Jordan Watt
Speaker 2: and Justin James Watt boy them white parents. I think
Speaker 2: they got another brother too, that was a fullback at
Speaker 2: uh at the Chargers.
Speaker 5: Real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's three of them, It's three of them. I
Speaker 2: don't know if he's still in the league, oh, Joe,
Speaker 2: but if I'm not mistaken. Yeah there, yeah, is that him?
Speaker 2: He was drafted by the Charge. Yeah, but them two,
Speaker 2: but them two older ones. Yeah, because I think if
Speaker 2: I think it's a JJ and TJ and then Daris
Speaker 2: the younger, right, because I think there was a picture
Speaker 2: one time when all Over was on the field again
Speaker 2: at one time.
Speaker 5: But boy, crazy, can you imagine?
Speaker 2: I think it had been very interesting to see how
Speaker 2: good JJ could have been had those injuries not crept
Speaker 2: up on him, right, because he had a stretch that
Speaker 2: was as good of any stretch. He had, like a
Speaker 2: five year stretch, Oh joe, that was good as any
Speaker 2: defensive player in the history of the game. Now, the
Speaker 2: only player that I can think that had a stretch
Speaker 2: that would that was top that was LT.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: LT was a player. LT won Super Bowls in that stretch.
Speaker 2: LT was a player of the Year, a defensive player
Speaker 2: of the Year. If I'm not mistaken, LT was like
Speaker 2: a nine time or ten time first team All Pro
Speaker 2: j oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. LT was that
Speaker 2: LT was defensive Rookie of the Year and Defensive Player
Speaker 2: of the Year in the same year. And that at
Speaker 2: that time they didn't count sacks as an official stat
Speaker 2: right the fact, didn't it become an official stat until
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two. Okay, it was Deacon that coined the
Speaker 2: phrase sacking the quarterback. Deacon Jones and Uh, I used
Speaker 2: to see Deke all the time at the at the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and I was like, his name is David Jones's,
Speaker 2: I said, I said.
Speaker 3: Deke, that is.
Speaker 2: I said, what's your real name? He said David. I said, well,
Speaker 2: why you change your name? He said, David don't sell
Speaker 2: no damn tickets. Deacon sell tickets.
Speaker 5: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: But Dick man, it was. It was great to be
Speaker 2: around those old guys. But uh, but A T. J.
Speaker 2: Watt he was, he's been phenomenal. I'm not even just
Speaker 2: gonna say he was phenomenal tonight. He's been phenomenal day one.
Speaker 2: Mm hm. So I'm glad. I'm glad I get an
Speaker 2: opportunity to witness saw his brother play. I thought his
Speaker 2: brother was gonna be a hell. I talked to Wade
Speaker 2: Phillips and everybody was surprised that they took him to
Speaker 2: high and they talked about he's gonna be a bus
Speaker 2: and Wade said, yeah, you're right, he's gonna be a bus.
Speaker 3: He gonna have it in Canton though. That's the bus
Speaker 3: he's gonna have right, right, right.
Speaker 2: And I think he retired last year, so this year
Speaker 2: last year, so he got the he on the clock,
Speaker 2: four years, he on the clock.
Speaker 3: He'll be in Canton, Oh yoe.
Speaker 2: A quarterback change could be coming in Indianapolis, and coach
Speaker 2: Shane Stikeen was non committal. On Mounday asked whether or
Speaker 2: not Anthony Richardson would have made the team starting quarterback
Speaker 2: against Minnesota in Week nine, as more specifically, if Richardson
Speaker 2: if coach quarterback right now? Sniken replied today he is, yes,
Speaker 2: but would not say if that would be the case
Speaker 2: moving forward. We'll evaluating everything, not just the quarterback. Everything
Speaker 2: we all got to be better. There's a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of areas that we can improve on. I'm not just
Speaker 2: talking about the quarterback. I'm talking about everything we've got
Speaker 2: to be better moving forward. Oh Yo, like ship like that?
Speaker 1: Man, I hate I hate stuff like that, especially you
Speaker 1: know in the middle of the season. You know, be
Speaker 1: direct with your comments. I know you're the head coach.
Speaker 1: I know you don't want to let things out, you know,
Speaker 1: to the reporters. You know whether you're gonna start him
Speaker 1: or out. You know, whether he's gonna start him or out.
Speaker 1: Why even play that game? Why even play that game?
Speaker 1: Now you've ben you benchr.
Speaker 5: Quarterback because he's maybe struggling a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know, if you if you watch the game, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if the people obviously the people don't at
Speaker 1: home only get to see the TV copies.
Speaker 5: But you know, if you, if you like, for you
Speaker 5: seeing they it's different.
Speaker 1: You know, he needs he needs to work There's some
Speaker 1: stuff he needs to work on. Yes, there's some stuff
Speaker 1: he needs to work on. He's not playing well for
Speaker 1: that team to be as good as they should be
Speaker 1: with what he has around him, He's not. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be I'm just gonna be honest. So
Speaker 1: a change, a change might come when they go to Flacco,
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure how that helps him because the
Speaker 1: only way for for Anthony Richardson to get better is
Speaker 1: to be at the Helm and making those mistakes and
Speaker 1: growing from them and learning from them. But see, if
Speaker 1: I'm putting black Owen does what exactly keep my job?
Speaker 2: That's what it does us. You see you just said
Speaker 2: quarterback getting head coach, you're fired.
Speaker 5: They do because listen, that's another one on the hot
Speaker 5: seat down dre in Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: And I yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure,
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, absolutely, Doug. Doug Preterson is absolutely on the
Speaker 2: hot seat with Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: But the part that scares me though, when you do
Speaker 1: something like this for a quarterback, that that's that, that's
Speaker 1: that young, and you bench him. I don't want to
Speaker 1: start doubting himself. I don't want to start doubting himself.
Speaker 1: And then what happens. He also becomes gunshot and the
Speaker 1: things that makes him special, the things that make Anthony
Speaker 1: Richard riches and special.
Speaker 5: Then he'll stop doing it because he doesn't want it
Speaker 5: to happen again.
Speaker 2: He becomes hesitated, he starts to become indecisive, and it
Speaker 2: also messed with your psyche in your confidence.
Speaker 1: But damn ich oh ship, now I gotta come back.
Speaker 1: When I do come back, I got to do everything perfect.
Speaker 1: I can't make no mistakes. And when you can't play freely,
Speaker 1: that's that's not good.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is, oh, Joe, he does a
Speaker 2: great job of throwing the deep ball. It's the touch,
Speaker 2: it's the timing throws that he struggles with. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: doesn't have the touch currently.
Speaker 5: They have to be this everything through.
Speaker 3: The eye of hurricane. I'm like, damn, ro no time
Speaker 3: he throw it through it what he tried to throw
Speaker 3: everything through the eye of hurricane.
Speaker 5: I'm like, ro thats a good When I heard that
Speaker 5: thro he right there.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you know you can't throw a shallow crawl
Speaker 2: like you throw cut the dude four to six yards
Speaker 2: from you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why they had the saying. You know they
Speaker 5: love quarterbacks to have a catchable ball.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, catch the ball.
Speaker 2: Everything doesn't have to be thrown with the same velocity.
Speaker 2: You know, there are times if you look at Mahomes
Speaker 2: when he threw that one to Kelsey, he knows the
Speaker 2: guys coming down to Robin. I gotta get it there
Speaker 2: in a hurry. But now I throw the shallow cross.
Speaker 2: I know, hey, I gotta give I gotta give a well,
Speaker 2: it wasn't a shallow cross. It's almost like a Q
Speaker 2: nine of sprint option route to Xavier. You're worthy. I
Speaker 2: got to give him a catchup a ball, put it
Speaker 2: out in front of him so he can turn and
Speaker 2: get the ball into the end.
Speaker 3: Zone.
Speaker 2: That's a part of it is the most important thing
Speaker 2: is giving a guy to run with it after he
Speaker 2: catches it, because a lot of times, Jow, you throw
Speaker 2: me the ball and I got to go down to
Speaker 2: catch it. What could have been yards after the catch.
Speaker 2: Now I got a seven yard game, and it could
Speaker 2: have been a fifteen yard game. But that's what the
Speaker 2: really great quarterbacks understan I just think you look eve
Speaker 2: extremely young. I'm not so sure how many years what
Speaker 2: he started, maybe one year in college if that. And
Speaker 2: so there's a lot of there's a lot of maturity
Speaker 2: that needs to take place in order for him to
Speaker 2: be the quarterback that they want him to be and
Speaker 2: the quarterback that he hopes to become.
Speaker 3: Right, but what happened yesterday with Yo, yeah, I won't
Speaker 3: help his situation.
Speaker 5: Now, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 1: And again but that situation as well, I wish he
Speaker 1: would have told the truth about what the real issue
Speaker 1: was and on why he went out, I guarantee you,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure at what point, I probably the storyline
Speaker 1: is out already and he said it was tired, ain't
Speaker 1: no where in hell that was the reason why you
Speaker 1: asked him to come out. I guarantee you. I swear
Speaker 1: for God. Something was wrong with that left ankle. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you something was wrong with that left ankle.
Speaker 3: Well, he gonna go with that one. With that one.
Speaker 1: The way he got tackled and dude pined him just
Speaker 1: a little bit, pin him just a little bit. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he might have aggravated it. He went out and
Speaker 1: want to say, or I was tired. You listen, you're
Speaker 1: not playing receiver, you're not playing running back. You're not
Speaker 1: doing enough running like that. Even if you do have
Speaker 1: to st you're not doing enough running like that to
Speaker 1: be tired in that situation or in that moment for
Speaker 1: that matter.
Speaker 5: Ojoe, I want to say nothing.
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna disagree with you. I ain't gonna say
Speaker 3: you you you're not wrong when you're right.
Speaker 2: But go with that because it's a band look to
Speaker 2: say you were tired, because do you know how Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: does he understand how tired the linemen are, how tired
Speaker 2: the tight end is, how tired the backs are. We're
Speaker 2: actually running the receive. I'm talking about multiple times you scramble.
Speaker 2: The receivers are scrambled in thirty and forty yards two
Speaker 2: three plays, back to back to back right, and a
Speaker 2: lot of times we're not allowed to come out because
Speaker 2: we're afraid to come out, oh Joe, because like hell.
Speaker 3: I Rod come out raw tired. I'm tired, ed tired.
Speaker 3: So not there. We got our three starters out and
Speaker 3: we got three backup.
Speaker 2: Seeing somebody got to stay two or the three starters
Speaker 2: got to steal in the field right, and plus I
Speaker 2: want the ball, hey, o Joe, I.
Speaker 3: See edit, I see edit Rodd tapping out.
Speaker 2: I might start, Oh no, I go go ahead, come on,
Speaker 2: joaggo throw it to me now, because I know we
Speaker 2: got two guys coming in. I know here for the
Speaker 2: trust them guys coming in there. Let me go get
Speaker 2: this pass right quick right. But I think that's the
Speaker 2: thing though, O Joe, I think you just have to
Speaker 2: be you know, it's just not a good look. Yea, yeah,
Speaker 2: to say you got tired of your your luck, think
Speaker 2: about them line. But oh Joe, past block after past,
Speaker 2: especially in a two minute or you know, you down.
Speaker 1: I think some similar somebody already pulled him aside. He
Speaker 1: has to be a little bit more media savvy. You
Speaker 1: got to be a little bit more media savvy. And
Speaker 1: PC and understanding how to manipulate the answers on the
Speaker 1: questions that are being asked.
Speaker 5: That's all again, that's.
Speaker 1: A part of the growing that that's a part of
Speaker 1: the maturity and the growing pains as well, and being
Speaker 1: in in the NFL. Here, he'll get it through. He'll
Speaker 1: get it through. I just I just don't want to
Speaker 1: missus Styken. I don't want to see him Benure. I
Speaker 1: don't want to see him ben because I think that
Speaker 1: could that could do more harm than good for him.
Speaker 5: The only way he's going to get better is being
Speaker 5: on the.
Speaker 1: Field, making no mistakes, realizing what those mistakes are when
Speaker 1: you watch film, and then when you go out the
Speaker 1: next time you try to you try to do your
Speaker 1: best to eliminate those mistakes until you get him perfect.
Speaker 1: You never get it perfect, but you strive for it.
Speaker 1: And the better you are as a player, the better
Speaker 1: your team is gonna be.
Speaker 2: Shane Stackett is worried about losing the team. Also, Oh,
Speaker 2: you remember when we son you too young to be tired?
Speaker 2: You know, you say you and your twitters let coach
Speaker 2: tell you say you too young to be tired. They
Speaker 2: bring up your age. If they bring up your age, yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh cho.
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Speaker 3: Teddy Bear, where are you going? Give me? Give me
Speaker 3: Teddy tay bir.
Speaker 5: Teddy Bear? What up twin?
Speaker 3: Teddy Bear? You're supposed to be in the bed. Why
Speaker 3: you're not in the bed? M Why aren't you in
Speaker 3: the bed? Say hell? Say hello, Joe, you want to
Speaker 3: go stay of Tampa? Said?
Speaker 2: Uh, he said, they ain't got no they ain't got
Speaker 2: no trees. Daddy, I know they don't have no trees.
Speaker 2: They don't feed me table food, so I ain't gonna
Speaker 2: be able to cut it.
Speaker 5: Hey, let let me, let me, let me. I can
Speaker 5: use it.
Speaker 1: I can use it and use him as a gift
Speaker 1: right now too, No bargain ship. Hey, the more the market, dude,
Speaker 1: Just help your boy out now.
Speaker 2: Mike, because decided Trebon Dicks in front of a television
Speaker 2: reporter after last night lost an example of the team
Speaker 2: frustration with his three and for a record, we have
Speaker 2: to be better in those moments. I always talk about
Speaker 2: staying on the high road. That's a part of our
Speaker 2: responsibility in this business. But I'm not ignorant or naive
Speaker 2: to the fact that this generation that's part of the world.
Speaker 2: They live in the social media world. You have to
Speaker 2: manage that. That's part of being a professional athlete, and
Speaker 2: that's part of representing this organization properly. Diggs addressed the
Speaker 2: situation with teammate Michael Parkson on Parsons podcast today. I
Speaker 2: just felt like it was unnecessitary. I just felt like
Speaker 2: he was trying to use my name for clicks. And
Speaker 2: after the game, I just happened to see it. Oh,
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. Let me fig to what he's saying.
Speaker 2: I just happened to see it. I clicked on it.
Speaker 2: Then I seen who it was. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's right here.
Speaker 3: I just saw you.
Speaker 2: I went up to him and just spoke how I
Speaker 2: felt me if I was playing now with Joe, I
Speaker 2: ain't gonna even look. I ain't gonna even look at
Speaker 2: social media until I get on the bus right or
Speaker 2: damn it to the plane, because I don't want to.
Speaker 3: Have the check. Cause look, I get it when you
Speaker 3: lose this stuff when you win.
Speaker 2: But if the guy praised them with here confront of
Speaker 2: the guys and say, hey, man, I appreciate the words
Speaker 2: of encouragement, man, that's great.
Speaker 3: No, not at all.
Speaker 1: But but you know what I don't like on the
Speaker 1: media side, especially for the report, everything is magnified.
Speaker 5: Everything is magnified when you're losing.
Speaker 1: So to me, in no disrespect, you know, because I
Speaker 1: know how you feel about it, and I did say
Speaker 1: he was loafing on the plate, but the fender, when
Speaker 1: you have two defenders that are in a better position
Speaker 1: to make the play than you, sometimes you slow down
Speaker 1: because you expect him to.
Speaker 5: Make that play. You can't assume that you're right.
Speaker 1: You can't assume that you can You got to be
Speaker 1: running all the way through. But what I don't like
Speaker 1: is the fact that when you are losing, some of
Speaker 1: the smaller stuff, I call it nickpicking. I call it nickpicking.
Speaker 1: You know, when when you're losing as a team, there's
Speaker 1: certain things you can get away. You can get away with.
Speaker 1: And there's certain thing you losing and that's one of them.
Speaker 1: So now they're gonna find anything, anything they can to say. See,
Speaker 1: this is one of the reason why we're losing. Right there,
Speaker 1: Treyvond is not running, but you're not lying.
Speaker 2: Think about how bad your defense. Your defense is dead
Speaker 2: lag is stopping the run. So what does that mean?
Speaker 3: Running?
Speaker 2: Is what?
Speaker 3: Effort? Right?
Speaker 2: That's effort. That's all we ask is effort. I can't
Speaker 2: look here. I can put you in a great situation,
Speaker 2: but if you don't give me the effort, it's all
Speaker 2: or not. So let's just say for the sake of
Speaker 2: argument on that plate, he was loafing. The next play,
Speaker 2: somebody else will loafing. The next place, somebody else will loafing.
Speaker 2: Now you get how you're dead last at stopping to run.
Speaker 2: Now you see why you're dead last. Now you see
Speaker 2: why you're not attacking the quarterback because everybody picked all you.
Speaker 2: All it takes is won. So you know what, That's okay,
Speaker 2: treybon Next time it's somebody else. Okay, bro, that's okay.
Speaker 2: So now we get sixty five plays where somebody loafs
Speaker 2: on one, then what happens, o, Yoe, Yes, three and four.
Speaker 2: For you give up two hundred yards, you're giving up
Speaker 2: two hundred plus yard of the game rush deep.
Speaker 3: That That's that's what people don't understand.
Speaker 2: See, you think it's just it's just a one off, right, right,
Speaker 2: But what if what if one player did that on
Speaker 2: every play, regardless offense or defense, just one play, just
Speaker 2: one player out of eleven. That's why it says it's
Speaker 2: a team. That's why it takes every man. I'm calling
Speaker 2: on every man, not just the man right next to me,
Speaker 2: but the man on the other side, that he's doing
Speaker 2: what he was supposed to. So let me ask you
Speaker 2: a question. When his teammates cut that film on and
Speaker 2: they see that, what you think they're thinking on Joe?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, listen, can you imagine being on the on
Speaker 1: the on the Cowboys defense and they turn on the
Speaker 1: film and have to watch film. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they work collectively as a group or they watch it
Speaker 1: by position, but boy, listen, the way people are running
Speaker 1: down your.
Speaker 2: Throat, that's what I'm talking boy a boy, I hated
Speaker 2: to lose a game, and I know we're gonna watch
Speaker 2: that film. We're gonna watch that film on Monday, I
Speaker 2: mean on Wednesday when hey, they say, hey, we're gonna
Speaker 2: watch them.
Speaker 3: We're gonna watch the tape.
Speaker 5: Oh wait. As a team, everybody in there.
Speaker 2: The entire offense, wide receivers, running backs, quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: Tight end, we all I hey, when you mess up,
Speaker 3: and everybody O Joe, you see, I'm sliding down the chair.
Speaker 3: Oh can you get us?
Speaker 5: They said, he that the s.
Speaker 2: Is that that's why you make sure you put out
Speaker 2: great film, because not only is your team watching it,
Speaker 2: that goes the other thirty one.
Speaker 5: Teams too too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, listen, there was there's a certain level of uncomfortability,
Speaker 1: even though it's a sport that you played. To go
Speaker 1: out there Sunday and lose and have bad plays. Let's
Speaker 1: say you run sixty five plays. Out of those sixty
Speaker 1: five you got.
Speaker 5: You might have foe. That's embarrassing. Yes, we're embarrassing.
Speaker 1: And if you have to watch it as a collectively,
Speaker 1: as an offense, and you know, people gonna see that,
Speaker 1: and you know they're gonna point it out.
Speaker 5: They're gonna point it out. Now.
Speaker 1: When we did it in position position meetings, we watched them. Okay,
Speaker 1: there was a certain level of comfort. It's a certain
Speaker 1: level of comfort. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just us.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I'm good, but boy, that full
Speaker 5: team oh man?
Speaker 3: What oh?
Speaker 2: And you know, man, look here, man. At one time
Speaker 2: we played a preseason game and I held a guy.
Speaker 2: It was a player, it was a toss away, and
Speaker 2: I'm fuold to cut off. It was like to say
Speaker 2: they had dropped down in the box and I grabbed it.
Speaker 2: I grabbed it from behind.
Speaker 5: Or you might say, you know what, you couldn't cut
Speaker 5: him off because he came he came shot.
Speaker 3: Down to he came down and cut across.
Speaker 5: I knew it. I knew it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike said, don't hold it. He said, if he
Speaker 2: catched TV from the backside, I get, I need to
Speaker 2: get a new back. Okay, but if you get a penalty,
Speaker 2: now you're gonna take away a big run.
Speaker 3: Okay. But that was the thing.
Speaker 2: Look here, man, Them meetings people, y'all don't understand you.
Speaker 2: We already knew there are sometimes you had to have
Speaker 2: armadillo skin. Oh yeah, you had to have a shell
Speaker 2: to go up in that thing, because hey, Mike, Alice
Speaker 2: GiB now sometimes cool with a little bit more subtle
Speaker 2: about it. He's like, eighty four, you're better than that.
Speaker 2: I know, we expect you to make that play. Alice
Speaker 2: give ain't give a damn the offensive line coach, all
Speaker 2: the muffles, eighty four, what the hell you lift the
Speaker 2: weight for.
Speaker 3: Mike? Hey, yeah, that ain't good. Yeah, Mike ain't good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My favorite, my favorite, as far as chastising by a
Speaker 1: coach where everybody, even nobody special.
Speaker 5: When I went to New England, When I when I
Speaker 5: went to New.
Speaker 1: England, Bill Belichick to Brady ass out in front of them,
Speaker 1: then tiredy, yeah, the offense, the entire of the team
Speaker 1: on why they lost the Jets and whatever playoffs. That
Speaker 1: was that the year before, and he came back and
Speaker 1: purposely had tape and film on the reason on why
Speaker 1: they lost, and he pointed out all of Brady's bad plays.
Speaker 1: I was like, you've got to be kidding me. I
Speaker 1: got to be getting punked. I got to be getting punked. Bill,
Speaker 1: What the fuck is this ship? How do we expect
Speaker 1: to compete? If you're playing you're making mistakes like that?
Speaker 5: What the huh?
Speaker 3: M hm?
Speaker 5: He talking to twelve like that?
Speaker 1: Hey, I looked, I looked over at Vincent. I looked
Speaker 1: over at Vince will Fork. I never forget in my eyes,
Speaker 1: and I'm like serious, just just like this, not his head. Boys,
Speaker 1: it's different ball games. So I got a better understanding. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is why these motherfuckers win. Absolutely, You're out year
Speaker 1: in and year twenty years worth of success.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's why Mike wouldn't do John like that. They
Speaker 2: would have a meeting. John would go to his office.
Speaker 2: John was like, Okay, he jumped in my ass. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna jump in. I covering for you. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: jump in your ass. That's how it was. Hey, we
Speaker 2: were account of ball. Oh yeah, yeah, hey, hey, be
Speaker 2: a eighty eighty seven because obviously you know and people
Speaker 2: like you, that's what were. That's how we refer to guys.
Speaker 2: We refer to guys as the numbers, eighty eighty seven thirty.
Speaker 2: Even though we called TV, we called TDJ, most of
Speaker 2: us went by number seven. We held everybody accountable. It
Speaker 2: doesn't matter what your w restlmemate say. That ain't what
Speaker 2: he said on that plate, right, I ain't talking about
Speaker 2: we can't take the Pro Bowls and the All Pros
Speaker 2: and all that other stuff, you got. We couldn't take
Speaker 2: that away on that play. That was some bullgi and
Speaker 2: that'll get us beat. Uh. Diggs also made an interesting
Speaker 2: comments when talking about the reason for the loss against
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. I feel like it was their coach.
Speaker 2: They had a great they have great they had great coaching.
Speaker 2: They adjusted to the things we were running. I felt
Speaker 2: like every time they called it was just a counter
Speaker 2: to what we were in. It was just like sol.
Speaker 2: They got good players, they got the right fleet pieces,
Speaker 2: so they were executed.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at some point in time, now I remember Chris Raschard,
Speaker 2: he wasn't no good.
Speaker 3: What's the guy named from Tampa?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: What was the guy named?
Speaker 2: He was the head coach of the Detroit Lions, Rod
Speaker 2: Rod Marinelli. He didn't get it done, Mike Nolan, he
Speaker 2: didn't get it done.
Speaker 3: And what point in time?
Speaker 2: And that was the problem that I had. At what
Speaker 2: point in time do players accept responsibility? So let me
Speaker 2: guess that's what that's what of them? He coached you
Speaker 2: to do that on that play, he said, he the
Speaker 2: guy breaks down the sideline. I want you to hear
Speaker 2: the job because maybe somebody else would make the play.
Speaker 2: That's what he could that's what he coaches fit responsibility.
Speaker 2: What's your gap? Integrity? You're supposed to.
Speaker 3: Be in the A gap? Have your asked an A gap?
Speaker 3: The guy goes into B that ain't got nothing to
Speaker 3: do with me. I'm a b or c ain't got
Speaker 3: inshed to do with shaying?
Speaker 2: I don't, man, Why won't people Why won't people accept responsibility?
Speaker 3: Is it really that hard to be accountable? I'm wrong?
Speaker 3: You know what I was wrong?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: I gotta play better. It's okay.
Speaker 2: What what Traybon needs to understand is that, Traybon, you're
Speaker 2: one of the better corners in the league. You should
Speaker 2: demand more of yourself. Damn what they expect of you?
Speaker 2: You should demand that. You should say, you know what,
Speaker 2: I want to be an All Pro. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: make the All Pro team every year. Man, I'm trying
Speaker 2: to go to camp right.
Speaker 3: I don't know what? What?
Speaker 2: What are you guys playing for? Y'all want to have
Speaker 2: the biggest change. Y'all want to have the most cards.
Speaker 2: Y'all want to have the most the most. You know, guard,
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're looking for, but what you want?
Speaker 2: You making a bolt ton of money? Don't you want
Speaker 2: to be like when it's all said and done, when
Speaker 2: you go back, Like when you go back, how revered
Speaker 2: you are insensitive?
Speaker 3: When I go back to Denver, how they plowed. I
Speaker 3: don't get it. Yeah, I just don't. I just don't
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: And listen, you think the reporter you know, pointed that out.
Speaker 1: Wait till they play, Wait till they play this weekend,
Speaker 1: Wait till the play the weekend after that, cause everybody's
Speaker 1: gonna be watching. Everybody tune in because now remember you
Speaker 1: got the star on your him. Yeah, everybody's watching the
Speaker 1: team with the star on the helmet.
Speaker 2: Lebron James only has seven points. He's he's had over,
Speaker 2: he's gone almost he's gone twelve hundred plus games scoring
Speaker 2: at least double figures. He's three and I had three
Speaker 2: minutes and forty nine seconds. He needs three points. Could
Speaker 2: this be the time? I don't know if somebody will
Speaker 2: ever break that record. He's two or thirteen, one or four.
Speaker 2: He has seven points, eight assists, and five rebounds. So
Speaker 2: we're on alert, record breaking alert, not in a good way.
Speaker 2: Sean Payton on the Panther, saying he tried to run
Speaker 2: the score up. It's in the NFL playvor.
Speaker 5: Did he hear what that saying?
Speaker 3: I could have swore I told you that yesterday with.
Speaker 1: True Hey you know he you know them coaches, them
Speaker 1: coaches hit o man. Everybody listen.
Speaker 5: Man. They might not watch it live like this, but
Speaker 5: I guarantee you it gets to him.
Speaker 3: Now, it get to him.
Speaker 2: Don Peyton on the Panthers saying he tried to run
Speaker 2: the score up. It's the NFL play better. With the
Speaker 2: Broncos ahead by twenty one points in the fourth quarter
Speaker 2: against the Panthers, Peyton called a fake field goal and
Speaker 2: had the wide receiver courd and Subtler throw a pass
Speaker 2: to the fullback Michael Burton to convert a fourth down.
Speaker 2: Those play calls upset members of the Panthers, and J. C.
Speaker 2: Horn was caught on camera saying the Broncos were trying
Speaker 2: to run the score up. Yep, that's what we do.
Speaker 2: That's what offense supposed to do. Peyton said he looked
Speaker 2: at us trying to win a football game and trying
Speaker 2: to learn to close out a game and suggest that
Speaker 2: the Panthers play better if they like to stop the
Speaker 2: Broncos from doing such. Oh, we're trying to finish the
Speaker 2: game the right way. We're not trying to run the
Speaker 2: score up on anyone. It's the National Football League. I've
Speaker 2: been in games with a twenty eight point lead in
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter and lost, so we're trying to finish.
Speaker 5: You got to be alert for everything. You gotta play football.
Speaker 5: It's a football game.
Speaker 1: You don't stop playing and don't stop being alert for
Speaker 1: any and everything until the goddamn Clarks hit zero in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: I'm coaching the game, not the scoreboard.
Speaker 5: And I think I brought it up to you before
Speaker 5: about coaches having a pack.
Speaker 1: There's a certain pack that I thought they had, but
Speaker 1: there's a certain amount of respect where you don't run
Speaker 1: the score up.
Speaker 5: And I mentioned that.
Speaker 1: You was like, hell no, But I remember sometimes where
Speaker 1: a coach ran the score up, or threw a pass
Speaker 1: or scored a touchdown when they shouldn't have when they
Speaker 1: should have took a knee.
Speaker 5: And instead of shaking hands, they got to argue that
Speaker 5: midfield after the game.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Okay, Well, maybe there is a certain pack
Speaker 1: that coaches live by, and it's.
Speaker 5: A sign of respect not to run the score up.
Speaker 3: Dang it, we running it up. Look, I'm running my offense.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm I'm not just been there with ten minutes
Speaker 2: to go in the game and we're up twenty one,
Speaker 2: we're up twenty eight points. I'm not just goin to
Speaker 2: run the ball into the line of scrimmage three straight down.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call my offense, right, you call your defense.
Speaker 2: I want to know this, how do we get this
Speaker 2: twenty one point lead where we running the score up
Speaker 2: then because we started at zero zero? What's what's your
Speaker 2: responsibility and to keep me from running up the team?
Speaker 3: Right? Hey?
Speaker 2: JC, were you on that defense that helped them get
Speaker 2: that let them get that twenty one point lead?
Speaker 5: A young boy? Nice with it too. I hate the fact,
Speaker 5: no disrespect.
Speaker 1: I hate the fact that he's on the Panthers because
Speaker 1: if you was on any other team, I think you
Speaker 1: would be able to see how good J. C.
Speaker 2: Horn really really is. I don't like the fact that
Speaker 2: he's over there. He's so take you know, everybody can't
Speaker 2: be on great teams.
Speaker 5: Damn, I know what you mean.
Speaker 1: He's so and man and man, he's so technically sound,
Speaker 1: all so fucking smooth and transitioning hit. But that's that's
Speaker 1: that's that's beside the point but hey, Panthers is just
Speaker 1: it's just right, not just bad all around, all around.
Speaker 5: And I know Dave Temple, I know, I know he
Speaker 5: gotta he got a short.
Speaker 2: Everybody he got. He got a short at least with everybody,
Speaker 2: Broy he got. Hey, that's not my job to keep
Speaker 2: it score down. That's your coach's job, and keep it
Speaker 2: score down. My job is to run it up. Your
Speaker 2: job is to keep it down. So you want me
Speaker 2: to coach your team and mine? Hell, I need double
Speaker 2: paint again.
Speaker 5: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: Hassan Reddick wasn't a fan of Bill Belichick's criticism after
Speaker 2: the Jets lost to the Patriots on Sunday. Belichick called
Speaker 2: out the Jets and Reddick specifically on The Pat McAfee show.
Speaker 2: Just a lot of mistakes by the Jets in that game.
Speaker 2: Hassan Ready came into the game and just ran by
Speaker 2: the quarterback multiple times. Belichick comments prompted Reddick to respond
Speaker 2: on social media. Hey, someone can call Bill Belichick and
Speaker 2: give him a job. Seems like he's at home. He's
Speaker 2: home board and can't keep me out of his mouth.
Speaker 2: Come on for Aaron, why don't you know didd it
Speaker 2: crying emoji.
Speaker 1: Well you did say the players these days a little
Speaker 1: bit emotional. Yes, they take they don't, They don't take
Speaker 1: criticism very well. You know, he has missed a lot
Speaker 1: of playing time, Yes, a lot of practice, training camps,
Speaker 1: mini camps, o t as you know, I think he
Speaker 1: is going to be effective and make a difference on
Speaker 1: that defense.
Speaker 3: It's gonna take a while, old Joe. We have way
Speaker 3: through the damn season.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, this is gonna take a minute.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Once, once, once he gets in that rhythm, get a
Speaker 1: feel for the game, his body and mind catches up
Speaker 1: to the speed of the game.
Speaker 5: He gonna be all right. But it's it's gonna take
Speaker 5: a few games to get there.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, what did coach Belichick say? Was so bad?
Speaker 3: He just ran up the field and ran by the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Now you might say coach Belichick ain't a great defensive
Speaker 2: It might might not be a great GM. Look at
Speaker 2: the people, look at us, because as you know, Tom
Speaker 2: needed more. They gave him less and expected him to
Speaker 2: do what he had been doing the previous years. But
Speaker 2: to argue his defensive Auckman, his defensive brilliance, M.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't think. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think he would challenge that you won't win. That
Speaker 1: you can't challenge that you won't win.
Speaker 2: That the man has a defensive game plan that's in
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. His game plan against the Buffalo
Speaker 2: Bills is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. They
Speaker 2: beat the greatest show on turf, one of the biggest
Speaker 2: upsets in Super Bowl history.
Speaker 5: Very good game at that.
Speaker 2: You can say a lot of things about coach Belichick.
Speaker 2: His defensive mind should be unquestioned. Einstein uh After an
Speaker 2: overwhelming social media reaction to Sunday's unveiling of the statue
Speaker 2: of d Wade's outside what is that kaya Casaia Center.
Speaker 2: The artists behind the statue are standing behind their work.
Speaker 2: I couldn't do better than that. I don't think anybody
Speaker 2: else can do better than that.
Speaker 3: I could time out. I could with with with a
Speaker 3: ten gallon bucket of water and some clay, some mud.
Speaker 1: Hey, I have a question. People in Yeah, people in chat,
Speaker 1: I know you've seen it. People in chat. Have you
Speaker 1: seen Edri's Hall of Fame bus?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: But you see how identical your bus looks to you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Ed's bus looks to him. I'm not sure who does
Speaker 1: the bus for the for Ken and the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: They have two guys, but I think a guy named
Speaker 2: Blair brought a buzz well look it up, Blair buzz Well,
Speaker 2: he's out. I think he's out of augment. Utah, maybe
Speaker 2: he lived, but he did mine. I think he did.
Speaker 2: I think he did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people and listen, I don't know that is who.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure who was in charge of getting d
Speaker 1: Wade's bus done. And then for the guy who did
Speaker 1: d Wade's bus to come out and say what he
Speaker 1: said that a better job couldn't have been done what
Speaker 1: he did when the entirety of the world is telling
Speaker 1: you it looks nothing like the individual, and you know
Speaker 1: it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Let's ojo. They say that, they say d Waves that
Speaker 3: you look like Garrett Moore.
Speaker 1: You know another thing this is this is also on
Speaker 1: d way too, because on Twitter today I saw pictures
Speaker 1: of him looking at the process of it being made.
Speaker 5: So that means he not only saw it wasn't being
Speaker 5: done right, he approved it.
Speaker 3: So you know what oo, But you know that moment
Speaker 3: you don't want to make.
Speaker 2: The guy feel bad, but you don't want to make
Speaker 2: it for it, right, But come on now, if somebody
Speaker 2: do it, let's just say, for the sake of argument,
Speaker 2: someone is doing a portrait of you and Rail you
Speaker 2: paying for it out of your pocket.
Speaker 3: You're like, how are you gonna get me a gold tee?
Speaker 3: I ain't got no goatee? Right? Why you got Rail
Speaker 3: with a halle Berry cut? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like I'm looking at the picture.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it, and I saw what you saw
Speaker 2: because the same thing happened when they come, like when
Speaker 2: we get measured for the for you get the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame. Okay, oh Joe, we go in that Monday.
Speaker 2: They have the artists there. They're taking measurements. They got
Speaker 2: the fist and they're seeing the distance between your eyes.
Speaker 2: They're seeing if there's any distinguishable characteristics.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: They give you a boatload of pictures that you can
Speaker 2: choose from because a lot of times, okay, okay, do
Speaker 2: you like this point? Do you like this photo of yourself?
Speaker 2: Do you like this photo of yourself?
Speaker 3: You like this one? You like this one?
Speaker 2: And so that starts the process, because now he's got
Speaker 2: to bring this clay to life, right, Okay, so that
Speaker 2: was in That was in February. Hey, they call you up,
Speaker 2: we like to come out. They gonna spend about three
Speaker 2: or four hours. They got the clay. They kind of
Speaker 2: got the rough draft of kind of what it's supposed
Speaker 2: to look like. Now he's done, gonna do it again.
Speaker 2: He takes the measurement. They got that thing you know know,
Speaker 2: you know this the width of your mouth, top of
Speaker 2: your everything. Now he's doing that with the clay because
Speaker 2: he's got okay, he's doing this, he's doing this, he's
Speaker 2: doing this, Like, what do you think?
Speaker 3: What can you do?
Speaker 2: I'm like, what about my I think it's on this side.
Speaker 2: I think it's on this side. I got a scar
Speaker 2: up under my eye. I was like, the scar. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up. Put a little scar there.
Speaker 2: I said, what about the part?
Speaker 3: Oh got that?
Speaker 2: So I'm telling him as I'm looking at the photos
Speaker 2: that I selected, that I wanted to be because a
Speaker 2: lot of the photos they try to get the photo
Speaker 2: O Joe in the way that most of your photos
Speaker 2: are cause you got to you got one photo. You
Speaker 2: gotta a pose that you have more than any of
Speaker 2: your other photos. So that's the one they try to
Speaker 2: go with. But at the end of the day, you
Speaker 2: can select whatever you're like clearly with the Frederick Douglass look, yes,
Speaker 2: so and it's spot on. It is spot on, dead on.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: Uh, but.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I just woo the guy, the guy, the guy.
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that the person that did the
Speaker 1: way's buss came out and said what he said and
Speaker 1: and didn't issue apology. I understand the Wade didn't want to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't want to be rude, but come on, come on, bro,
Speaker 1: come on, come on man. You know at some point
Speaker 1: you have to tell people, you know what, this isn't right,
Speaker 1: because if it's not right, and the rest of the
Speaker 1: world is saying it's not right, even though you're trying
Speaker 1: to be nice, then you will continue to make the
Speaker 1: same mistakes over and over and over instead of improving
Speaker 1: on his craft and what he does.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he gonna get any more work
Speaker 2: if you o Joe the shade Tree mechanic, don't get
Speaker 2: no work. If he mess up, somebody call. That's the
Speaker 2: whole while. Even even though he's cheat, if your car
Speaker 2: still won't crank after you take it to him, what
Speaker 2: the hell about. Why am I gonna refer you to
Speaker 2: somebody else? So if I'm d Wade, I pay somebody
Speaker 2: to steal it. I can't let y'all see this yet.
Speaker 2: I have somebody else to redo it. Peter came out better.
Speaker 2: Oh yo, do it like you know how to you
Speaker 2: go to the basketball game. They have the body and
Speaker 2: then they didn't let the little kids sit in their head.
Speaker 5: The hand in the middle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, young.
Speaker 3: That came out better. Do it that better?
Speaker 2: Look look like I said, I mean the Wade. I
Speaker 2: think everybody we're in agreement that d Wade is very deserving.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that doesn't look like him.
Speaker 5: Man, Listen, not only is he very deserving.
Speaker 2: If you're going to give someone a statue, yeah, represent
Speaker 2: them in front of anywhere.
Speaker 5: It has to be on point. It has to be right.
Speaker 1: If you take the jersey off and you take the
Speaker 1: jury off the statue, nobody would be able to tell
Speaker 1: you what he played.
Speaker 5: That was no nobody.
Speaker 2: I don't know the way they got him. His face
Speaker 2: was a little like Antoine walk a little bit. I
Speaker 2: don't know who the n it would. Yeah, they got
Speaker 2: to fix it, and they got to they really do it.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 5: I think because of the public.
Speaker 2: Because of the public, I wouldn't call it backlash, but
Speaker 2: because of the public disapproval of it not looking like
Speaker 2: d Wade somebody, a change is gonna have to be made.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if not, so be it.
Speaker 3: He might be a shade tree sculptor. Uh are.
Speaker 2: Ronnie and his artistic partner Oscar Leon are proud of
Speaker 2: their work and encourage people to come see it for themselves.
Speaker 3: No, I'm good.
Speaker 5: What do you mean see it for ourselves?
Speaker 3: We saw it.
Speaker 5: It's everywhere. It's on Instagram, it's on TikTok, it's on.
Speaker 3: I'm good, I saw it. I could take your word
Speaker 3: for it.
Speaker 5: It's on, It's on, it's on books, on everything. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hey, with a three with two minutes left, Lebron James
Speaker 2: extends his all time double digit scoring streak to twelve
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty six games. In honor of LBJ. Goat James,
Speaker 2: this historic streak. I'm going to sign, but I'm gonna
Speaker 2: do something. Somebody gonna win this.
Speaker 5: Hold on, did they win though?
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, damn, youre asking too many questions.
Speaker 5: I know I'm saying. You can just talk about the
Speaker 5: historic Street. But did the Lakers win? Isn't that? Isn't that?
Speaker 5: What's more important?
Speaker 3: We're down by two. We got the ball.
Speaker 2: Oh, Lebron makes one of two free throws. He got
Speaker 2: leven points, so they got the file. Don't file KD
Speaker 2: uh yeah KD and book went off. Book got thirty three,
Speaker 2: KD got thirty. AD has been AD has been phenomenal
Speaker 2: all year, twenty nine points, fourteen rebounds, Ruly got twenty
Speaker 2: and ten. Austin Reeve Kobe of the Ozarks has twenty
Speaker 2: three and eight. D Low was fourteen Lebron three or
Speaker 2: fourteen from the floor. That's all right, goat James Brown's back.
Speaker 2: So what we're gonna do. What we're gonna do. We're
Speaker 2: gonna sign. I'm gonna sign this nightcap hat and ashes
Speaker 2: going to mail it to a random person who makes
Speaker 2: a perch of merch using cold fifteen Halloween fifteen. So
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sign this like I always do, as you
Speaker 2: can see. Hope y'all can see me signing this. Did
Speaker 2: y'all see that? So the Linco is paying at the
Speaker 2: top of the chat. If I'm not mistaken, this might
Speaker 2: be the first piece of Nightcap merch I've actually signed.
Speaker 3: So uh.
Speaker 2: Nah, Aaron, I ain't gonna start Kobe or the Ozarks.
Speaker 2: Let that man live, stall him out man. Uh So
Speaker 2: that's it signed the hat. Uh someone's gonna win this
Speaker 2: night cap hat. Order some merch Halloween fifteen. You get
Speaker 2: fifteen percent off and you're ener joying to win this
Speaker 2: hat personally signed by me.
Speaker 3: Dodgers win, they.
Speaker 2: Take a dominate three to old lead again or the
Speaker 2: two walker Butler pitched five scoreless inning. Buler has three
Speaker 2: World Series starts with five plus inning and five fewer
Speaker 2: base oneers allowed each time, a record unmatching the World Series.
Speaker 2: Freddy Freddy Freddy Freeman. Freddy Freeman built him a two
Speaker 2: run homer. He now has three home runs in as
Speaker 2: many games. Everybody will remember that iconic won the bottom
Speaker 2: of the ten, two out bases loaded fastball by Cortes.
Speaker 2: He caught it, he was sitting on it, and he
Speaker 2: took it over the fence. The Dodgers beat the Yankees
Speaker 2: for to two, take a commanding three non lead. Now
Speaker 2: the Yankees have their backs against the wall. Can they
Speaker 2: do what's only been done one time? The Boston Red
Speaker 2: Sox came from behind in the American League Championships. To
Speaker 2: win four straight games, to win a best of seven series?
Speaker 2: Can it be done? I think they're gonna send Garrett
Speaker 2: Cole to the mound tomorrow. He's the best pitcher, right.
Speaker 2: And what's the percentage. What's the chances, what's the chances
Speaker 2: they come back and win this series? What's the chances
Speaker 2: they even make this series competitive? I don't watch much baseball.
Speaker 2: They put man on the move, so anything is possible, Okay,
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't bet them nine.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't bet your money. They did come back in win, let.
Speaker 5: Alone my own right, damn?
Speaker 3: So? Uh? What's about the Dodgers? The Dodgers?
Speaker 2: The Dodgers got looked people O the yank and yak
Speaker 2: Eric look the Dodgers show. Hell, Tony is about to
Speaker 2: win his third m v P. Freddy Freeman is an MVP.
Speaker 2: Mookie Betts is an MVP. They got three m vps
Speaker 2: in their first four batters.
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, who whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa? Hold on?
Speaker 2: Now, the Yankees have Gian Carlos Stanton never won an MVP.
Speaker 2: They have won SOTO. They never want an MVP. Have
Speaker 2: brother Jack Jazz Chisholm never want an MVP. Do you
Speaker 2: understand do you understand how good Mookie Betts is. Mookie
Speaker 2: Bets can be a gold Glover at right field, center field,
Speaker 2: left field, short stop, second base, third base, and first base.
Speaker 2: Nobody has the verses. There's not a been a baseball
Speaker 2: player that has that kind of versatility and be exquisite
Speaker 2: at it. Yeah, they have utility infielders that can play
Speaker 2: second place, play shortstop, but not at the level as
Speaker 2: Mookie Bets.
Speaker 3: He's won an MVP.
Speaker 2: He can steal your base, he has great defensive prowess,
Speaker 2: can hit for power, can hit for average.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no. Sho hey, do you understand
Speaker 3: what shoe hey o Tani is doing?
Speaker 5: The real deal?
Speaker 3: Boy?
Speaker 2: Freddy Freeman is an MVP, and he's a World Series already,
Speaker 2: a World Series champ. I'm not saying the Yankees aren't good,
Speaker 2: but when they the Yankees getting runners in scoring position,
Speaker 2: they're not doing anything. Yeah, Dodgers are putting the ball
Speaker 2: over the fence. You look at what's the name Escabar,
Speaker 2: what's the what's the escabar?
Speaker 3: Home run? Edmund?
Speaker 2: What is the the second basement of the second basement
Speaker 2: of the short stop. He built home runs. We know
Speaker 2: Freddy Freeman can hit it over the porch, Mookie can
Speaker 2: hit them. We know show hate.
Speaker 3: Hey, sometimes you just run up into this as a
Speaker 3: team that's just better, just better. It's okay.
Speaker 2: I mean the Oscar the Yankees had a phenomenal, phenomenal
Speaker 2: regular season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes, but if you look at Judge.
Speaker 1: Right, how's their postseason been? Or they just started to
Speaker 1: play bad because they're facing the Dodgers now.
Speaker 2: They playing back. I mean, look, they they they beat
Speaker 2: the they beat the Guardians. What four to two? Who
Speaker 2: do they play the first? They play? Who did they
Speaker 2: play first? The Orioles, the Royals? They beat the Royals?
Speaker 3: What four to one? Three to one? Judge is struggling.
Speaker 3: He's not seeing the ball.
Speaker 2: Well, they're throwing the fastball by Judge, and he normally
Speaker 2: drives a four hundred.
Speaker 3: And fifty feet every time.
Speaker 5: From what I see, I don't watch him every time
Speaker 5: he nigga goddamn home run.
Speaker 2: And they started out the same level and then winging
Speaker 2: through it. But I mean, look it happens. We saw
Speaker 2: a Rod do the same thing. A Rod with MVP
Speaker 2: after m v P forty homers, one hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: Ribbis and then getting the World Series, and they move
Speaker 2: him up and down. They start him off at second
Speaker 2: batt and second he bat thirty back fourthday batted man eight.
Speaker 2: Everybody can't be Reggie Jackson missed October, right, But give
Speaker 2: the Dodgers credit. Give the Dodgers credit.
Speaker 5: Uh I should I should have I should have played
Speaker 5: baseball Man.
Speaker 2: The volume