WEBVTT - Second Date Update PODCAST: You Not Jelly?

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<v Speaker 1>Second date Update. You know you're getting blown off for

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<v Speaker 1>a date when somebody tells you that they have a

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<v Speaker 1>doctor's appointment at eight o'clock on a Friday night. What,

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<v Speaker 1>As far as I know, not a lot of doctors

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<v Speaker 1>working that late on a Friday night. That's what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to Matt, who is on the phone right now and

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<v Speaker 1>wants to do a second date update. He wants to

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<v Speaker 1>call a girl named Claire. Apparently Claire is really bad

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<v Speaker 1>at blowing guys off. Yeah, because he asked her out

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<v Speaker 1>after their date and that was one of her excuses

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<v Speaker 1>that she used. Apparently she's used a bunch of excuses,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's wondering why she just keeps blowing him off.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, Matt? How are you? I'm doing great? Guys?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you good? So she actually sent you a

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<v Speaker 1>text after your date saying that she had a doctor's

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<v Speaker 1>appointment at eight on a Friday night. Yeah, White, Actually

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<v Speaker 1>she did that two day from weekends because I waited

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days. I didn't want to come off

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<v Speaker 1>desperate or anything. I wanted to play it cool. So

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<v Speaker 1>I texted her and I think, you want to grab

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<v Speaker 1>some drinks tonight or something. This was earlier in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, Oh, I have a doctor's appointment tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you say back? I mean, I wasn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to try to pest her because I kind of took

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a hint. I gave her the

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<v Speaker 1>benefit of the doubt. I'm like, Okay, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let me know after we're tipping up and maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>can do party. You wanted to text her back and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, it's Friday night at eight o'clock. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>really have a doctor's appointment? Absolutely? I mean I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to call her out on it, but at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd feel bad if she did have some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>random doctor's appointment and then I called her a liar

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<v Speaker 1>and then yeah, it's one of those where you just

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<v Speaker 1>bite your tongue. You're like, oh my god, yeah, don't

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<v Speaker 1>you think she said it? And she's like, oh, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't make any sense. He's gonna know that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>blowing him. I don't know how lady doctors work. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe lady doctors are open. You're not getting pap smears

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<v Speaker 1>on a Friday night. It's not what we do. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no like happy hour or late night happy hour

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<v Speaker 1>for those things. Yeah, what was the other excuse that

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<v Speaker 1>she used on you? I texted her a second time.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't as late. I figured, you know, maybe she

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<v Speaker 1>want to do like a happy hour or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And what'd she say back? Actually, I was surprised because

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<v Speaker 1>that one was a dentist appointment. She needs to get

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<v Speaker 1>more creative. Is the problem? Are you sure you want

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<v Speaker 1>to call this girl and try to get a second date?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think more it's I want closure. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know what happened, because we hit it off

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<v Speaker 1>really well. She's she's gorgeous. I don't usually do blind dates,

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<v Speaker 1>but the one time that I did it, it worked

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<v Speaker 1>out really well. I thought we had a lot in common.

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<v Speaker 1>So this was a date that was set up by somebody. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>our friends. We have some mutual friends. And they kept

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<v Speaker 1>pestering me over a couple of weeks, and finally they

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<v Speaker 1>showed me a picture of her on Facebook. Yeah, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh absolutely. Do you think that she was maybe disappointed

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<v Speaker 1>when she saw you? If she was, she didn't act

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<v Speaker 1>like it. I mean, maybe she's really nice. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm that much of a disappointment to

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<v Speaker 1>look at being much. She really enjoyed herself. Everything on

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<v Speaker 1>your date seemed cool. What did you guys do? It

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<v Speaker 1>was just a first date kind of thing where we

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<v Speaker 1>just went out to a bar and had a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of drinks and we ended up just talking for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at least two or three hours. That's good time. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if she didn't like you initially, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>stay around that long. And I'm pretty good at reading people,

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<v Speaker 1>so I I mean, either she's a really good actress

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<v Speaker 1>or if she was having a good time. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it just it felt like things were really clicking. Was

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<v Speaker 1>there anything weird that happened during your date? Not that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm aware of. I mean, there's a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she went to the bathroom, just like once

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<v Speaker 1>or twice. But then after you're having drinks, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>someone goes to the restroom. Yeah, that's right, unless she's

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<v Speaker 1>a cokehead and she's just sounds to me like she's

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<v Speaker 1>doing drugs in the bathroom during your date. Matt, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never actually thought about Yeah, well you gotta think about

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<v Speaker 1>it more often. Whenever I'm out on a date. As

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<v Speaker 1>soon as she goes to the bathroom, I know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in there. I'm tired of going out

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<v Speaker 1>with all these druggies. All right, So you still want

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<v Speaker 1>to call this girl even though she's blatantly blowing you off. Oh? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>She's really one of the prettiest girls that I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>went on a date with. Like, we're just really beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm absolutely my type, and we just the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>you look for in common with someone. Those things that

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<v Speaker 1>we had together, it was just something, just something that

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<v Speaker 1>we could build on. Did you give her a kiss

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the night. No, we just hugged

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, went on a better way. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll play a song, come back, call her and get

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<v Speaker 1>your second date update. All right, off, thank god brooking jubil.

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<v Speaker 1>In the morning, Snatt is on the phone with us

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<v Speaker 1>and he wants to call a girl named Claire. Today.

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<v Speaker 1>They met through friends, went out on a date. He

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<v Speaker 1>thought everything seemed cool, but since then he's tried to

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<v Speaker 1>text her and gotten horrible excuses back as to why

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<v Speaker 1>she can't go out with him. It was a Friday

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<v Speaker 1>night at eight o'clock, and she said she had a

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<v Speaker 1>doctor's appointment. And then the next time he said let's

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<v Speaker 1>hang out earlier, like five o'clock on a Saturday, she

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<v Speaker 1>said she had a dentist appointment, obviously blowing him off. Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>Are you ready to make the phone call? Yeah? Man, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Well, I'm have to unfortunately tell you I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna need to reschedule autometrius appointment here in ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>So shouldn't be a surprise to you, though, This is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what people do to you, right, Yeah, absolutely? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever been this blatantly blown off before? Never? No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why it's bugging me so much. Yeah, I can

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<v Speaker 1>see your point, because I would be like, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to know why why do you feel the need

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<v Speaker 1>to pretend with a doctor's appointment at eight o'clock on

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<v Speaker 1>a Friday night. All right, man, I'm gonna dial the

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<v Speaker 1>phone umber right now, get her on the phone and

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<v Speaker 1>get your second day update. Okay, cool, Thanks, here we go. Hello, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>can I speak to Claire please. Yeah, this is Clay.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Claire, how are you doing? This is Jewel from

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<v Speaker 1>Brook and Jewel in the Morning. I'm sorry, I don't understand. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. It's a morning radio show and one of

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners recently emailed us about you. Then his name

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<v Speaker 1>is Matt. We do a segment on our show called

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<v Speaker 1>the Second Date Update. Matt is wondering why you are

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<v Speaker 1>blowing him off. Wait, Matt called you, guys, Yes, huh

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<v Speaker 1>do you have a few minutes to tell us why

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to go out with Matt again? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess there's not much to tell. There's not much

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<v Speaker 1>to tell? Well, let me, can I tell you something? Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>We talked to Matt about your date, and we talked

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<v Speaker 1>to him about everything after the date, and Matt thinks

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<v Speaker 1>that you're a liar. He thinks him a liar. He

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<v Speaker 1>thinks that you're a liar. Okay, why because you told

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<v Speaker 1>him you couldn't go out with him because he had

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<v Speaker 1>a doctor's appointment at eight o'clock on a Friday night.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the next time he asked you out, you

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<v Speaker 1>said you had a dentist's appointment. So like that's my

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<v Speaker 1>business and for the record of not lying. Okay, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not lie that you went to the doctors at eight

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock on a Friday night. I got can explain this

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<v Speaker 1>to you, guys. So the doctor's appointment stuff is all

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<v Speaker 1>true and you haven't been blowing him off. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to see mad again? I mean like, like not necessarily.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want like I don't actually want to see

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<v Speaker 1>him again. Why woun't you make up lame excuses? Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you just tell him? Hey, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna work. I don't I don't need to justify any

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<v Speaker 1>of this to you, guys. I didn't get that feeling

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<v Speaker 1>with him, and I don't want to see him again.

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<v Speaker 1>But hey, I don't care if you blew him off

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<v Speaker 1>the way you did. Whatever doesn't matter. It's not my life,

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<v Speaker 1>that's his. But is there a specific reason why you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to see him again so that I can

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<v Speaker 1>go back to him and tell him, Oh, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't get the feeling I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>should get. So there's just no chemistry, like you weren't

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<v Speaker 1>attracted to him. There's just like a feeling a girl

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<v Speaker 1>gets when a guy really likes her and he thinks

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<v Speaker 1>it's weird. I didn't get that from him at all.

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<v Speaker 1>So you didn't think that he liked you, but he

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<v Speaker 1>asked you out a bunch of times since your date.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was weirder than that. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>when we went into the bar, I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, here's my ex boyfriend. And he was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>at the bar too, And so I told Matt that,

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<v Speaker 1>like I used to date this guy, and like he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even a face, Like he didn't even like he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't care, he didn't like he just went along with

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<v Speaker 1>the date like nothing happened. And I was like, don't

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<v Speaker 1>you get it, Like we slept together, Like this is

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<v Speaker 1>like weird. You know, you wanted him to be upset

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<v Speaker 1>that your ex boyfriend was there. It's not that he

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<v Speaker 1>has to like get upset or angry about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>like I went to like show that he actually likes me,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably should seem like he's at least faced by

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, like a little bit weird it out.

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<v Speaker 1>So you wanted to like go up to your ex

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend and threaten him right there or something. No, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like fight or anything. I just like I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit us and show me that he

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<v Speaker 1>carries about me. Like that just comes off as a

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<v Speaker 1>little crazy to me. Did you purposely take him to

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<v Speaker 1>a bar that you knew your ex is gonna be at?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, what is this? Like? I honestly don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to explain any of this to you. I'm being

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<v Speaker 1>nice by explaining why I'm not calling back a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that obviously was acting weird in the date. I talked

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<v Speaker 1>to all my girlfriends. They agree it's weird if you're

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<v Speaker 1>just like, don't even care, you know that, Like this

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<v Speaker 1>guy I used a date like, he didn't want to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>He just wanted to stay there and keep talking about books. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you would have rather that it weirded him out,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe he was like, I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>here around your ex, Let's go somewhere else exactly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like a first date and he's not even

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<v Speaker 1>invested in your guys' relationship. Like what does he have

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<v Speaker 1>to be jealous of? I mean, I slept with the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's like five bars fools down, I would be jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, okay, So way through the night, my

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<v Speaker 1>ex boyfriend came up and introduced himself and like, Matt

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<v Speaker 1>just like offered to buy him a drink. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's over the time. So Matt was too cool to

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<v Speaker 1>your ex? You would have rather been like, how would okay,

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<v Speaker 1>in a perfect world, Claire, if you were out with

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<v Speaker 1>a guy and this happened, how would you want him

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<v Speaker 1>to react. I would want him to be like cold

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<v Speaker 1>and like defend me and like not just sit there

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<v Speaker 1>and not cool about it, Like he doesn't even care

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<v Speaker 1>about me, Like are we friends? Or are we like

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<v Speaker 1>are we on a date? I couldn't tell. I really

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't tell. Claire. All right, so you like a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who gets a little jealous, and Matt is obviously not

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<v Speaker 1>that guy. Obviously not that guy. Okay, hey, Claire, I

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<v Speaker 1>should let you know that Matt is actually on the

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<v Speaker 1>other line listening to this conversation. What. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm supposed to say to you. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm too nice? I don't understand what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you like, if you're out with the girl, they

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<v Speaker 1>want you to be jealous, Like if some guys starts

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<v Speaker 1>flirting with me, especially if it's my ex boyfriend. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just trying to be a nice guy and

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<v Speaker 1>like just play it cool. I figured if if I

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<v Speaker 1>come off mean that that would you know, you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>find that attractive. I wanted to try to be polite

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<v Speaker 1>and nice. No, like what attractive is being a man

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<v Speaker 1>in that situation and like, like, you know, playing it cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to play it cool. Like, so

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<v Speaker 1>what's I supposed to like punch him out when he

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<v Speaker 1>walked up or something? Well, you also to buy him

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<v Speaker 1>a beer. I know that you were. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like you had if you kind of look on

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<v Speaker 1>your face like you were mad that he was there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just figured you guys were, you know, still

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<v Speaker 1>at least friends or clause. I'm not. I'm not the

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<v Speaker 1>jealous type I've got. I've got friends in my life

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<v Speaker 1>that I've dated. It a long time ago, So sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you remain friends, you remain close. I figured you guys

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<v Speaker 1>were still close. I wanted to be nice. Oh, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I was it cool? That's what I'm supposed to do

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<v Speaker 1>in that situation. Your role is like stick up for

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<v Speaker 1>me no matter what. Look, I have a way date.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I'm just I'm really confused, right, now,

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<v Speaker 1>I really do not understand women at all. Yeah, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>you don't understand women, obviously, Claire. That is not how

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<v Speaker 1>all women think. It's how I think, and it's how

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<v Speaker 1>most of my girlfriends think. So like, I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what you're talking about. You're gonna end up with

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<v Speaker 1>like some control freak, jealous roid rage. Dude, If that's

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<v Speaker 1>the type of parameters you're putting on your dates, don't

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<v Speaker 1>judge me about who I want to date. You're the

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<v Speaker 1>one who called me, yeah, broke, back off, back off.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sticking up for Claire right now, Claire, Claire, I

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<v Speaker 1>got your back, all right. I'm sticking up for you

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<v Speaker 1>like a good man should do. Finally, a real man

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<v Speaker 1>is doing something. There you go, Claren. If you and

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<v Speaker 1>I were out on a date and your ex boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>was there, he's not getting a beer from me. It's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, at least somebody understand. Yeah. I'm glad we

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<v Speaker 1>see all that here, Matt. Would you even like to

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<v Speaker 1>go out on a second date with Claire? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing what I know now, absolutely not. She's obviously got

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of point of view of what the roles

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<v Speaker 1>of men and women are I mean, okay, okay, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not good. I want some macho guy. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that has like balls, you know, you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done with you, that actually probably will get you

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<v Speaker 1>another date with Claire. Good job, Matt, broken Jupil in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning,