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Speaker 1: James Bulmer. That's Steve Wiss. This is the NFL Report,

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Speaker 1: and that was the recently retired after thirteen glorious seasons

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, Jason Kelsey. We'll get to a conversation about

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Speaker 1: his career with my brother from Philadelphia, Mike Garrifolo, who

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Speaker 1: will also break down Mike Evans contract and what that

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Speaker 1: does for the free agent wide receiver market. We also

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Speaker 1: have John Beck on the show, Steve, who's working with

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, Jayden Daniels, Michael Pennix. He also works with c. J. Stroud,

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Zach Wilson, all of them, and will also

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Speaker 1: have Jeff Shittia telling us who needs to have a

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Speaker 1: big off season in his mind, but one of those

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Speaker 1: teams that's not on his list needs a big offseason.

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Speaker 1: That's a Denver Broncos because they are changing quarterbacks. Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson officially released Steve. Your initial thoughts are.

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Speaker 2: What, yeah, how about this?

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Speaker 3: Three minutes after it was officially released, Russ went ahead

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Speaker 3: does Russell Wilson land? And this is super intriguing to

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Speaker 3: me because you know, people are gonna connected to Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: because we're connecting everybody to Pittsburgh. People can connect them

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Speaker 3: to Washington because he's from Richmond, Virginia, you know, about

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Speaker 3: ninety minutes away. But I'm kind of sitting here like,

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Speaker 3: if the Minnesota Vikings aren't able to retain Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 3: they've got to be a potential landing spot JP for

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson. Sure, I think maybe they're going to draft

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Speaker 2: That might be something that they have to do.

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Speaker 3: But this is you know, look, no surprise, we knew

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Speaker 3: Russell and Sean weren't moving forward.

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Speaker 2: And JP, what what might the Broncos do?

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Speaker 3: Now we know they're in that eleven, twelve thirteen draft

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Speaker 1: He definitely is. They're a rebuilding at the quarterback position

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Speaker 1: once again in Denver. As I sit inside the team

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Speaker 1: facility right now, this will be in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Steve the seventh different week one starting quarterback for the

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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos since Peyton Manning retired after they won the

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Speaker 1: for a quarterback that brings something different than what they

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Speaker 1: had with Russell Wilson, specifically Steve, and we've talked about

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Speaker 1: this on the program and Sean Payton has not hit

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Speaker 1: it at all. It is the ability to multitask at

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Speaker 1: the defense extremely quickly. These are things that are highly

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Speaker 1: valued by Sean Payton and Peyton just didn't believe that

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Speaker 1: are obviously interested because of what I listed, Steve. Kirk

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Speaker 2: They have the money though, if they have the papers.

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Speaker 1: They do have the ability to move some things around.

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Speaker 2: Just watched the fastest forty in the history of the

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Who yeah, right right right right right on to Xavier Worthy.

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Speaker 3: You know for running that was my that was my

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Speaker 2: Of the list. But what caught my eye coming out

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Speaker 2: Been re signed.

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Speaker 3: I look at all of these stud draft pick wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: Look at these guys Marvin Harrison, Malik Neighbors at LSU,

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Speaker 1: right now. Steve. We know that this wide receiver free

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Speaker 1: is fascinating what's happening with the wide receiver spot.

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Speaker 2: Well, ja, if you alluded to it, let's just take

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Speaker 3: And this was a great work by Clifton Dutton, our

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Speaker 3: Teams aren't afraid to draft wide receivers anymore because, like

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Speaker 3: You know, though, they've got to have somebody throw the

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Speaker 3: going to be some stellar stuff. We're going to be

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Speaker 3: talking to John Beck, a private quarterback trainer who works

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Speaker 3: only with some of the best draft prospects, but some

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Speaker 3: this might be the busiest man in America right now,

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Speaker 3: especially with these ags. He trained several quarterbacks at the Combine.

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Speaker 3: He works a lot of guys already in the league. John,

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Speaker 3: And speaking of the Combine. Okay, you've got Michael Pennix,

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Speaker 5: Well, I thought they had good throwing sessions.

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Speaker 3: Well, if we talked about Michael Panics and JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 6: Well, I think I wouldn't be able to answer that

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, this is a conversation we've had as

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Speaker 6: But when you talk to him about preparation for those situations,

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Speaker 1: That's great information, man, I get that. And kind of

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Speaker 6: Two of those guys have had to switch offenses when

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Speaker 6: And so it's just tough because you don't know the

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad you said that, because I do think

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Speaker 2: Can put him in because he played in big games.

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Speaker 3: He's seen circumstances. Someone's only played, you know, eighteen or

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Speaker 2: You worked with CJ.

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Speaker 6: Oh man, Well, first off, anytime you have that type

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Speaker 6: Texans with you know, a rookie quarterback to do what

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Speaker 6: they did? And so there wasn't really an expectation. These

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Speaker 6: guys probably at times got to feel like they're playing

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Speaker 6: a little bit house money. Now, that doesn't take away

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Speaker 6: from the pressure. Every NFL team feels pressure on Sundays,

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Speaker 6: especially a team that had an opportunity to make a

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Speaker 6: playoff run, right, to get into the playoffs, win the

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Speaker 6: division and.

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Speaker 1: All of that.

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Speaker 5: So they understand pressure.

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Speaker 6: Now the pressure is going to be a little bit different,

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Speaker 6: right because now there's a bit of an expectation, you know.

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Speaker 6: And so to see jam My guess is and there's

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Speaker 6: probably a reason why he's already started his offseason work

452
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Speaker 6: is because he's saying, I like that expectation. I like

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Speaker 6: that as a competitive guy, the way that he's built,

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Speaker 6: he's saying, fine, this is what I always wanted it

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Speaker 6: to be. So now I'm going to just try to

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Speaker 6: advance and every way it possibly can and it's actually

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Speaker 6: going to go back to that word of experience. Now

458
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Speaker 6: here's a young man that has an entire rookie year

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Speaker 6: under his belt that is just going to do nothing.

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Speaker 5: But help him.

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Speaker 6: He gets to keep the same offense, same coordinator, same

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Speaker 6: crew of guys around him. It's going to be great

463
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Speaker 6: to see his progression over this offseason into the next season.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to stay in the state of Texas because

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Speaker 1: you also work with Dak Prescott. You've done it several,

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Speaker 1: you know, several off seasons, and I love an added

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Speaker 1: aspect of his game that maybe we saw in years

468
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Speaker 1: past John but was kind of gone for was him

469
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Speaker 1: creating and playing outside the pocket. When I talked to

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Speaker 1: people in Dallas, they were so excited to have that back.

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Speaker 1: They said, maybe it was the fear of the injury.

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Speaker 1: They're not entirely sure, but that added back into his game.

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Speaker 1: What did you like about Dak's year that he had

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Speaker 1: and maybe were there any conversations you guys had heading

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Speaker 1: into last year that you maybe wanted to add that

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Speaker 1: aspect or saw that other aspect. I'm kind of curious

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Speaker 1: for your tape.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think that's a natural part of Dak's game.

479
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Speaker 6: I do think that the injury, you know, a few

480
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Speaker 6: years back, definitely impacted that. And I watched that guy

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Speaker 6: just work relentless for years to come back from that, right,

482
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Speaker 6: and it takes time. I mean, that was a significant injury.

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Speaker 6: That is not just something that you quickly overcome. So,

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Speaker 6: I mean, Dak is one of the most competitive dudes

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Speaker 6: I've ever been around. He worked so hard and I think,

486
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Speaker 6: you know, Kings, things kind of came together this year

487
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Speaker 6: that allowed him to be that version of himself to

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Speaker 6: create and he created a lot of plays. I thought

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Speaker 6: he had an outstanding near I know it ended in

490
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Speaker 6: a tough way, you know, is really bitter taste in

491
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Speaker 6: those guys mouth have the season that showed a lot

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Speaker 6: of signs of promise and that way, But I love

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm seeing these clips right here. I mean

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Speaker 6: that that to me is all of the things that

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Speaker 6: Dak possessed his and to come back from that injury.

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Speaker 6: It's a testament of Dak's work that he put in,

497
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Speaker 6: and also the team of people around and you know,

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Speaker 6: the medical staff and the et people that put time

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Speaker 6: into helping him get back to that place. That's what

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Speaker 6: he's capable of, right there, all those things that we

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Speaker 6: saw this year. I mean there there was a stretch

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Speaker 6: of games where it looked like he was one of

503
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Speaker 6: the faperits to be the MVP, right And so you know,

504
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Speaker 6: it's great to see Dak back in that place. And

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Speaker 6: as he gets working this offseason, I'm sure he's going

506
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Speaker 6: to continue to just want to keep growing in all

507
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Speaker 6: those areas that he can. And with what happened last year,

508
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Speaker 6: there's probably that that mindset to really just grinding get.

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Speaker 5: After it this year and it should be a great

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Speaker 5: offseason for him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I only go about forty five seconds here, but you

513
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Speaker 3: also worked with Zach Wilson, whose career with the Jets

514
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Speaker 3: looks like it's coming to an end. It seems like,

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Speaker 3: you know the Jets, you know when you hear what

516
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Speaker 3: they're saying that you know he's going to be.

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Speaker 2: Gone from there.

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Speaker 3: How was a young man who's been through everything he's

519
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Speaker 3: been through get his confidence back even to play as

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Speaker 3: a backup? Like, how do you you know him? How

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Speaker 3: does he get it back really feel like playing football

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Speaker 3: is funny?

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Speaker 6: Well, Zach's a gritty kid, and this experience that he

525
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Speaker 6: had at the New York Jets. I know that he

526
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Speaker 6: probably wishes it would have gone a little bit different,

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Speaker 6: But just like anybody has to do in life, you

528
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Speaker 6: just have to stay gritty, You got to push through,

529
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Speaker 6: you got to stay persistent, and that's exactly what he's doing.

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Speaker 6: And I think an opportunity, you know, to be able

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Speaker 6: to continue to grow somewhere, it would be exactly what

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Speaker 6: he needs. And I think he's excited for the offseason,

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Speaker 6: you know, I think. I mean, look, life, life sometimes

534
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Speaker 6: just throws these major curve balls, man, and it would

535
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Speaker 6: have been really cool to see things go great for Zach,

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Speaker 6: for the coaches that were there. I mean, I had

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Speaker 6: a chance to be in that building. There's a lot

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Speaker 6: of good dudes in that building. It just didn't work.

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Speaker 6: And sometimes that happens in the NFL. And it doesn't

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Speaker 6: mean that the players not talented or the coaches. It

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Speaker 6: mean it's just sometimes it doesn't work.

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Speaker 5: And so I think an.

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Speaker 6: Opportunity to kind of reset and use all that experience

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Speaker 6: that he has. I mean, the kids played in thirty

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Speaker 6: something football games, and like I mentioned before, like he's

546
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Speaker 6: a tough kid, and this this situation that he's had

547
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Speaker 6: to go through is just gonna make him tougher, and

548
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Speaker 6: you know, then you just move on from there and

549
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Speaker 6: you stay positive and you hope that he can land

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Speaker 6: a place that's going to allow him to continue to grow.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, awesome, stub job. We're going to talk to you

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Speaker 1: for probably the duration of our entire show because I

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Speaker 1: love what you guys do at three D QWOB. It's

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Speaker 1: not like you just but it's not like you just

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Speaker 1: prepare guys for the draft. I mean they keep coming

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Speaker 1: back for a reason because you're doing such a good

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Speaker 1: job keeping them playing at a high level and adding

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Speaker 1: to why they're playing. This isn't just prepping them for

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Speaker 1: the draft. This is keeping quarterbacks playing at a high level,

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Speaker 1: and you guys do a brilliant job of it. So

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. Thank you having time John to

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Speaker 1: spend some time with us.

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Speaker 5: Steve and I, oh yeah, you guys are welcome. Thank

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Speaker 5: you for the kind words.

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Speaker 1: Man. I love this job.

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Speaker 5: I love working with these guys. And it's like you said,

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Speaker 5: like when I get a chance to work with these

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Speaker 5: young guys, these.

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Speaker 6: Guys JJ McCarthy, Mike Pennix, Jayden Daniels, these are guys

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Speaker 6: we've been training for three three plus years. So I

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Speaker 6: love just trying to help these guys with not only

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Speaker 6: this process but man their career. And so thank you,

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Speaker 6: thank you for noticing that I appreciate the words.

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Speaker 1: to be Mike Evans going back to Tampa Bay, the

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Speaker 1: man who broke the story. My good buddy, Mike Carrifolo,

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Speaker 1: the insider for this show, joined Steve and I next

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Speaker 1: on the NFL Report. Welcome back to the NFL Report,

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Speaker 1: James Palmer, Steve wife. A few things just feel more

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Speaker 1: comfortable now, don't they, Steve. We have our NFL Report insider,

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Speaker 1: Mike Garrifolo back with us, and everything just is alright

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Speaker 1: with the world. We had a wonderful time in Indianapolis, Mike.

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Speaker 1: We broke bread a couple of times. One was touching

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Speaker 1: go for a second there, but we made it out

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Speaker 1: all right, and you break the news now that we're

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Speaker 1: out of Indianapolis with Mike Evans re signing with the

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. How does this go down? And then

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Speaker 1: also how does this impact the rest of the wide

592
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Speaker 1: receiver free agent market with the guy at the top

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Speaker 1: of the class now resigning.

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Speaker 7: As I left Indianapolis, James, I thought that this was

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Speaker 7: going to go the other way. I thought Mike Evans

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Speaker 7: was going to get a fresh start somewhere else. Didn't

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Speaker 7: seem like the Buccaneers' efforts in Indianapolis with Derek Gilmore,

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Speaker 7: who is Mike Evans agent, we're going to.

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Speaker 8: Result in a deal.

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Speaker 7: But things changed within the last couple of days, and

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Speaker 7: the Bucks really stepped up within the last couple of

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Speaker 7: days because the buzz in Indianapolis was a bunch of

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Speaker 7: teams were getting ready to pounce on Mike Evans here,

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Speaker 7: who was going to be thirty one but yet still

605
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Speaker 7: commanding and not top of the receiver market because this

606
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Speaker 7: is going to be into the thirties. But we're talking

607
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Speaker 7: about twenty six million dollars per season over two years.

608
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Speaker 7: But he tied for the league leading touchdowns last year

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Speaker 7: and has been at a thousand yard clip for his

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Speaker 7: entire career. So this is a big retain by the

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Speaker 7: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who were also still looking to to

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Speaker 7: retain Baker Mayfield. I think in the end that winds

613
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Speaker 7: up happening, and could happen this week, well before the

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Speaker 7: start of free agency. It sounds like they had fruitful

615
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Speaker 7: talks in Indianapolis between Baker Mayfield representatives and the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 7: But there is still work doing. There's still gonna be

617
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Speaker 7: other teams that could potentially be interested. But getting Evans

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Speaker 7: back that is going to be a big incentive for

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Speaker 7: Mayfield to return. You talked about that receiver market. If

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Speaker 7: you want to call Evans the top guy there, Michael

621
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Speaker 7: Pittman with the Colts, one way or another, he's going

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Speaker 7: to stay in Indianapolis, whether it's the franchise tag or

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Speaker 7: what not. T Higgins already been franchise tag. So you know,

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Speaker 7: Calvin Ridley now looking like he's going to be at

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Speaker 7: the top of the market. Hollywood Brown Odell. I mean,

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Speaker 7: it's not the deepest class gave Davis. That's a big

627
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Speaker 7: body guy. If you want to compare to Mike Evans,

628
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Speaker 7: Mike Williams who could come free from the Chargers, another

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Speaker 7: big body guy. So if i'm those guys, I say, Okay,

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Speaker 7: this guy just came off the market as that prototypical

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Speaker 7: big body X type guy.

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Speaker 8: That should help me, I think if you're looking at

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Speaker 8: those guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Michael James and I talked earlier in the show though

636
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Speaker 3: about how all of these outstanding rookies coming out could

637
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Speaker 3: really impact negatively impact guys like the Gabe Davises and

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Speaker 3: the Marquis Browns of the world. Like, let's get to

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Speaker 3: the fact that the franchise tag deadline expires Tuesday, right,

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Speaker 3: and we could have guys like Stone Cold Jones and

641
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Speaker 3: Christian Wilkins hitting free agency, Like what what does that mean?

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Speaker 3: Especially when you look at you know, some of the

643
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Speaker 3: draft analyst rankings, defensive tackle is probably one of the

644
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Speaker 3: thinner positions among the prospects this year.

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Speaker 7: That's what Chris Jones, who yeah, Chris jon Yes, exactly,

646
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Speaker 7: Chris Jones, who this year took a hit to come

647
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Speaker 7: back to the Kansas City Chiefs. Here sitting at that

648
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Speaker 7: first game and then hitting the second incentive in week eighteen.

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Speaker 7: I'm laughing because I can't forget the scene of his

650
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Speaker 7: teammates celebrating with him in week eighteen when he got that.

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Speaker 8: What a scene that was.

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Speaker 7: Look still at the top of his game, still at

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Speaker 7: the top of his interview game. Because if you watch

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Speaker 7: James Palmer get Chris Jones after a big game, you

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Speaker 7: know there's gonna be something special in that one on

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Speaker 7: one interview and listen. He may stay in the West games,

657
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Speaker 7: he may stay in the exactly so you may still

658
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 7: continue to get your chances with these games that you're covering.

659
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 7: To get Chris Jones, you just gotta beat the Chiefs

660
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 7: when he faces him if he wants to be with

661
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 7: James Palmer, because you've got to win the thing to

662
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 7: get with Palmer.

663
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 8: But yeah, he listened. Between him and Christian Wilkins. Wilkins

664
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 8: a horrific player.

665
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 7: The Dolphins have made several attempts to kind of lock

666
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 7: him up and get him under contract.

667
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 8: Hasn't quite happened to this point. So yeah, those two

668
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 8: guys big bags of money coming their way.

669
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Speaker 2: Well, hold hold up, Mike, hold up, hold up. You

670
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: said he may stay in the AFC West. You cannot leave.

671
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: You cannot leave him hanging here. Brother, there's only three

672
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: other teams.

673
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 7: You gotta help us, thinking, Yeah, well, multiple teams in

674
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 7: the AFC West need help. The defensive line I'm just

675
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 7: saying that the place where he played his last game

676
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 7: as a Chief maybe his first game as somebody.

677
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: I don't know.

678
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 7: I'm just saying I don't know who knows, and that

679
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 7: could be that the team is maybe for Week one.

680
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 7: Maybe that's what I'm saying.

681
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

682
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 8: I haven't seen an advanced schedule. I have no idea.

683
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 8: I'm just trying to find a way to not allude

684
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 8: to the fact that it's the Raiders. I'm talking about.

685
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: Well done, Hey, well done, brother, good job, Mike.

686
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Speaker 1: I love that because I think about this, Mike, like

687
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: you look at what's going on in Kansas City, and

688
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: it looks like they're gonna, you know, tag l Jerious

689
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: need and then they're gonna let him maybe possibly seek

690
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: a trade or they could end up dealing him in

691
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: a sense that could also come into play. That that's

692
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: some of their thinking. If they can get Chris Jones

693
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: under thirty.

694
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 8: I don't know if that's possible.

695
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: When we're talking about how desperate some of these teams

696
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: may be at the defensive tackle spot, is that realistic?

697
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: But maybe that's part of the Chiefs thinking of trying

698
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: to bring him back. Also, two of their names. I

699
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: look at in a position that's just fascinating. It's not

700
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: deep in the draft. It's the running back spot. And

701
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: then you have two names like Saquon Barkley and Derrick

702
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: Henry out there. I bring them up because they're not

703
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: normal human beings playing the running back position. Their skill set,

704
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: their ability almost outliers in a lot of people's mind.

705
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: Where do things stand at the running back spot with

706
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: those two guys, because it's similar to the d tackle

707
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: spot with not a lot of guys coming out in

708
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: the draft there.

709
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, it does feel like Derek Henry is going to

710
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 7: have a fresh start somewhere else. I mean, I know

711
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 7: we've connected them so often to the Baltimore Ravens, who

712
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 7: have a bunch of free agents at the running back position.

713
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 7: On their own right, they'll perhaps they'll just say, all right,

714
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 7: we'll let those guys go and bring in Derek Henry

715
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 7: finally connect on what we've been speculating about at trade

716
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 7: deadlines in otherwise, Look, it's gonna be it's gonna be

717
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 7: the haves and the have nots again at the running

718
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 7: back position. There's gonna be that same cliff that you

719
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 7: always have because you can go out there and try

720
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 7: and make a run at Sae Kwon Barkley and Derreck

721
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 7: Henry and Josh Jacobs, and even if you have Tony power,

722
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 7: I don't think he is going to be in that echelon.

723
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 7: But then you fall off and you've got either veteran

724
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 7: guys like Ezekiel Elliott you can go after, or the

725
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 7: DeAndre Swifts or Zach Vosses.

726
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 8: I mean, Zach Boss is gonna.

727
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 7: Wind up getting a nice payday for himself. But these

728
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 7: guys are looking to be up in the double digits,

729
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 7: which is where that franchise tag was last year. Now,

730
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 7: I'm told Saquon Barkley and the Giants had good discussions

731
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 7: in Indianapolis, which is fine. I just think in the end,

732
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 7: for Barkley, it's going to depend on and not that

733
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 7: this is a cop out, but this is my way

734
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 7: of answering it.

735
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 8: It's going to depend on what everybody else is going

736
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 8: to be willing to do. I truly believe, because the

737
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 8: Giants are going to make a run at this.

738
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 7: But the Giants started at a certain number, which was

739
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 7: why swallowed a half million dollars per year. I want

740
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 7: to say, back in October of twenty two, and then

741
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 7: that number wound up coming down each time they made

742
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 7: a run at it, and I don't know where it's

743
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 7: gonna wind up being on this go round, But again

744
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 7: I do know that they had good conversations so much

745
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 7: as last year when the when the deadline to do

746
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 7: a deal with Barkley in July came and went, and

747
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 7: I said, well, that's it.

748
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 8: This is gonna be his last year with the Giants.

749
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 7: He's And then shortly thereafter I had some conversations with

750
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 7: folks in the building and said, no, we're going to

751
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 7: make a run at this in the d We still

752
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 7: want this guy around. It's just it couldn't agree quite

753
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 7: on the compensation. So I'm not ruling his chances out

754
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 7: of resigning with the Giants. We'll be tracking it as

755
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 7: we get closer here.

756
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: I cannot say the Cowboys don't try to make a

757
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: move for him. He just fits with doing their run

758
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: game so well, the dual threat he possesses, and I'm

759
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 3: gonna get back at the Giant. It would be a

760
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: nice little, you know, taste of honey on the top

761
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: of that. As you've button up here, you know, we

762
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: know you're on the Eagles a lot. We saw Jason

763
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: Kelcey announce his retirement on Monday. Just your your thoughts,

764
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: maybe just on you know, his career, the retirement, his

765
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: future place, potentially in the Pro Football Hall of Fame,

766
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: just anything, because you again, you've been around him an

767
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: awful lot.

768
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 7: The biggest thing is the way that he and the

769
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 7: community and the city of Philadelphia jibed over the years.

770
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 7: And you know he made it sound simple. It's not simple, right, Like, yes,

771
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 7: you've got to play hard, right, but there's other elements

772
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 7: to it. You gotta be really good. You gotta be

773
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 7: really good. Let's not forget about that.

774
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 8: At what you do.

775
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 7: You've got to play hard, yes, but you also, you know,

776
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 7: you don't make any excuses. You certainly can't snap back.

777
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 7: If you ever take a shot back at the fans,

778
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 7: that'll be the death. Knew, most likely for your relationship

779
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 7: with the organization or with the city. Excuse me, but

780
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 7: I thought he understood the market be better than anybody

781
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 7: I have ever seen in my time growing up in

782
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 7: Philadelphia rooting for these teams and covering these teams. You know,

783
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 7: I stopped being an Eagles fan when I was covering

784
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 7: the Eagles because you got to be objective. It's just

785
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 7: so hard to be a fan anymore so his time

786
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 7: playing with the Eagles, I wasn't a fan of the team.

787
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 7: But the way that I cover him in the way

788
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 7: that I saw that he handled the media and the

789
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 7: relationship with the organization and the fan base is unlike

790
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 7: anything I've ever seen.

791
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 8: You've got to appreciate that.

792
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 7: I would imagine he's still going to have a role

793
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 7: within the organization. It sounds like it could be as

794
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 7: big of a role as he pretty much wants. But

795
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 7: there are other things that have already come across his

796
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 7: plate right now to do things way outside of the

797
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 7: realm of traditional NFL football players. Opportunities not supposed to say.

798
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 7: The one that I heard, which is the most interesting,

799
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 7: we'll see if winds up happening, but it is.

800
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 8: It is incredible.

801
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,479
Speaker 7: The way that he is misted with that fan base

802
00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 7: with that city. I'm sorry, Jens, I can't do it

803
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 7: with that fan base with that city.

804
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: Uh.

805
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 7: And the way that that now over the last couple

806
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 7: of years has translated nationally as well, real.

807
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 2: Real quick and Madison.

808
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 3: I'm sorry for this, but I got to take it

809
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 3: to I got two Philly guys here, what does he

810
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 3: kind of rank, you know, kind of dovetailing off what

811
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: Mike said, what does he rank with both you guys

812
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 3: on some of the greatest athletes in terms of that

813
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: community relation whatever among Philly folks, and.

814
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: He might be one. I don't think anybody else at

815
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 1: a head. I don't think I was a beer waiting

816
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: for them outside of their press conference like Jason had

817
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: today from fans. I mean, doctor Jay's legacy is still ridiculous.

818
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: Chase Suttley had an unbelievable relationship, but none of them

819
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: were as active in the community, probably as Jason has been.

820
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, Chase probably. I mean, you know, Mike Schmidt and

821
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 7: the city did not get along well at times. Now

822
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 7: that that's over the years, has has changed, you know,

823
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 7: with with with distance from from those moments, obviously people

824
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 7: have come to appreciate. You know, when I was growing up,

825
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 7: Eric Lindross was huge, and he didn't have a great

826
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 7: relationship with the city of Philadelphia and then down there

827
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 7: as well. So for Jason Kelcey, I think it was

828
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 7: you know, a yeah, but Iverson had off field stuff

829
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 7: that alienated some people, right like on the court in basketballwise, fine,

830
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 7: but there were extra curriculars that didn't sit well. Jason

831
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 7: Kelsey doesn't have that stuff. But I said this earlier,

832
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 7: I said the Eagles lost a leader, but the city

833
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 7: of Philadelpha that would say lost he. I mean, he's

834
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 7: still gonna be around, but as a player, the city

835
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 7: lost a leader here as far as an active voice

836
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 7: of an active player. Because he stepped up to talk

837
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 7: about Ben Simmons. He didn't mention him by name, but

838
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 7: he was talking about Ben Simmons, and that's when he

839
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 7: gave the talk about you know, people say it's hard

840
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 7: to play in this town.

841
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 8: I think it's easy to play in this town.

842
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 7: He was talking about Simmons, and shortly thereafter I think

843
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 7: he was shipped out of town. So Jason Kelcey has

844
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 7: a voice that has resonated across the city down there,

845
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 7: and again he's not going anywhere.

846
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: Well, great stuff, Mike, Hey, appreciate your brother always. You

847
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: know it's gonna be busy time next couple weeks. We're

848
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: gonna have you back on the show. And coming up next,

849
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: Jeff Chadea is gonna let us know what teams have

850
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: to have a spectacular off season. We know the Bears

851
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: have draft picks and a tradable quarterback, but do they

852
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 3: lead his list?

853
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 2: Oh, Jeff Youdea has got some good stuff coming up next.

854
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: On the NFL Report. Oh boy, we are back at

855
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: the NFL Reports. Steve White here, James Palmer. We're joined

856
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 3: by our guard, Jeff Jadea, who's got his new first

857
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 3: read column dropping on Tuesday. Jeff, welcome back to the show.

858
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 3: It is been a minute and we are here to

859
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: stir it up.

860
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 1: Jeff as I've seen Jeff in person at India Bunch.

861
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah you remember seeing me?

862
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 2: Oh oh hey, now.

863
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: The Times in early mornings.

864
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: I wasn't there. I don't need to hear any of this.

865
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Speaker 2: You guys can inform me off for the air, please,

866
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: all right?

867
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: So, yeah, your your column is dealing with teams that

868
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: need to knock it out of the park this offseason.

869
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: We understand every team meets to hit on their draft

870
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: picks or freezing acquisitions or coaching highers, things like that.

871
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 3: But you're starting this off saying that Houston Texas over

872
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: the past two years.

873
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: Have had great drafts, they lead, they lead the field

874
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: and having to hit a home run here, what do

875
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 2: you mean by.

876
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 4: This, well, I'm taking a big Bowl prediction here, making

877
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 4: a big Bull prediction here that you know, you can

878
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 4: talk about the Bengals and the Bills and the Ravens,

879
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 4: but the team that's best positioned to really give the

880
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 4: Chiefs or run for their money in the AFC, it's

881
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 4: going to be the Houston Texans right real quick.

882
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 8: I'll go with the Houston.

883
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: Texans right now because TJ. Stroud looks that good.

884
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 4: They've been that good in terms of player actually drafting,

885
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 4: and they have so much money to work with seven

886
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,959
Speaker 4: to eight million dollars in salary cap space.

887
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: They can go out and fill a lot of needs

888
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: right now.

889
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 4: If they want to, you know, get help on the

890
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 4: defensive lining and go after a Chris Jones. They want

891
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 4: to go get a corner back, they can go make

892
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 4: a tray for of Jerius sneed or go after Jalen

893
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 4: Johnson Chicago Bears. You talked about Christian Wilkins being out

894
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 4: there in agency. He could be the guy they look

895
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 4: at a running back, say Kwon Barkley could be guy

896
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 4: they think they go after.

897
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: So a lot of big players out there.

898
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 4: I'm really popping up Nick Assario and Demiko Rians right now.

899
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 4: But I think that they are primed make a run

900
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 4: at the AFC the next couple of years.

901
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: They do things right.

902
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: I like that, Jeff. I love that. I love that, Jeff.

903
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: Honestly, Jeff mentioned the seventy million dollars in space they have.

904
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: They also have more free agents than anybody else in football,

905
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: so they do got to fill a lot of different spots.

906
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: What I look at is the one name that Steve said,

907
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: Steve that he said was Chris Jones. I'm not saying

908
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: they're getting Chris Jones, but I am saying that's a

909
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: focal point for Jamiico Ryans. That defensive line is a

910
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: huge aspect of what he wants to do in terms

911
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: of building this team. You saw what he did in

912
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: one year in terms of where they were at able

913
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: to take a jump as a defensive line. I think

914
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: this is now a destination. I think Jef's kind of right.

915
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you come to Texas, you come to Houston,

916
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: you want to play for Demiico Ryans, and you want

917
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: to play with CJ. Shroud. Their perception in the league

918
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: has dramatically changed in one year. How about jumping over

919
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: to the NFCS and the Detroit Lions. They're right there, Jeff.

920
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: Why do they have to have a massive offseason. They're

921
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: right there because they need to get them over the hump.

922
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 4: You're not getting over the hump just by staying pat

923
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 4: And so when you look at what they have to

924
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 4: do again, I'm looking at even more than the Texans defense.

925
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 4: You finding a way to get a pass rusher in

926
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 4: there to help a and Hutchinson. Again, you will hear

927
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 4: Chris Jones' name a lot in this list because he

928
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 4: is that big of a name and he can have

929
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 4: that big of an impact. But adding a second pass

930
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 4: rusher there, like a Chris Jones, like somebody like Minnesota's

931
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 4: Daniel Hunter, Danelle Hunter, who's going to be out there,

932
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 4: who's going to be free, that could help them out

933
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 4: a lot.

934
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: You go the back end again.

935
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 4: I mentioned Jalen Johnson, who they've seen in that division

936
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 4: with Chicago. I really believe they're able to make some

937
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 4: moves in freegency. And I know Brad Holmes, the Darrell manager,

938
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 4: is not a big free agency guy, but they are

939
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 4: so close. One or two players here, big splash guys

940
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 4: puts them over the top of the NFC.

941
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: I want to jump in real quick on that, Jeff.

942
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: What Brad Holmes is is a great evaluator of cornerbacks.

943
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: It was a big role in hit that he had

944
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: with the Rams, and that is a big need that

945
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: they have, whether they fill it in the draft or

946
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 1: free agency. Him evaluating personally in the cornerback spot, which

947
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: is in need for them, I think is a big

948
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: part of their offseason. Yes, yes, yes, for sure.

949
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so Chicago first pick, ninth pick, probably get some

950
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: capital when they trade justin fields.

951
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: We don't know what that will be.

952
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: Now you say this is a team that needs to

953
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 3: knock out of the park, obviously so because Matt Eberflus

954
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 3: is on a one year life preserver to add to

955
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 3: all of that, Jeff.

956
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I didn't even think it's about ebra Flus.

957
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 4: It's about them being in the position everybody would love

958
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 4: to be in where they got a ton of money.

959
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 4: They've got the first pick in the draft, they got

960
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 4: the ninth pick in the draft, and they have to

961
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 4: make a splash pick. They can't not make a splash.

962
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 4: All those things going in their favorite you can't screw

963
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 4: this up. You have to do something that gets people

964
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 4: going excited about your franchise, and so look what you're gonna.

965
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: Say, Maybe you can screw it up. Don't put it

966
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: out for Jeff history. There there's a history.

967
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams a good draft pick. Look as soon as

968
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 4: they trade justin Fields, everything falls in place for these guys.

969
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 4: And I'm excited for Ryan Poles who's been with the

970
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 4: Fantasy Chiefs. He's winning for his opportunity to draft his

971
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 4: own quarterback. And again they can a lot of money.

972
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 4: Chris Shownes once again makes sense. Then'll Hunter makes sense.

973
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 4: I think Angeline Winfield junior. They got rid of Eddie Jackson.

974
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 4: That safety could be a guy who they look at. Certainly,

975
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 4: you can find some second tier with receivers out there

976
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 4: to help your offense if you're gonna draft receivers. So

977
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 4: gave Davis, Marquis Brown, Josh Reynolds.

978
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 9: I could see a lot of guys Number nine, big brother,

979
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 9: they're gonna get somebody right there in the draft and

980
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 9: wide receiver too.

981
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: No, they're they're sitting pretty. That's a good call. And

982
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: I think there are thirty one teams that wont Antoine Winfield.

983
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: Thirty two include Tampa as well. Everybody would like to

984
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: get their hands on him. I love what you're saying.

985
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: The biggest thing to me jet that stands out is

986
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: in their evaluation process of Kayleb Williams because I'm joking

987
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: about maybe you can screw this up. A big part,

988
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm told is making sure his makeup can handle playing

989
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: quarterback for the Chicago Bears. It is almost, as some

990
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: people around the league say, a difficult, maybe cursed position.

991
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: It is just a hard spot to succeed in. We

992
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: just haven't seen it in that sense. How does he

993
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: handle stepping into that. It's been a big part of

994
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: their evaluation and sticking with quarterback the Atlanta Falcons, you

995
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: need a big off season when you are as they

996
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: put it a quarterback away as a roster yep.

997
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that really is the only move they have

998
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 4: to make here. It's not about a bunch of moves,

999
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 4: big off season splash move. It's about one move. It's

1000
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 4: about quarterback. And I feel like Kirk Cousins is.

1001
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: Going to end up being that quarterback people want to combine.

1002
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: It just seems like the mikey would love to have

1003
00:43:59,560 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: him back.

1004
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 4: We all know when teams start talking about how much

1005
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 4: they love you, how much they want to keep you.

1006
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 4: That's always the kind of the scarlet letter, so to speak,

1007
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 4: when it comes to create and see. And I just

1008
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 4: don't feel as if the Vikings are going to go

1009
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 4: the extra mile, spend the money is going to take

1010
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 4: to keep her Cousins happy.

1011
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: His wife's from Atlanta.

1012
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 4: Zach Robinson, who's an ex RAMS coach, who he knows

1013
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 4: that system, the same system as Kevin O'Connell runs. He

1014
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 4: was with those guys, he knows Raheem Morris. There's a

1015
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 4: lot of things tying him to Atlanta right now that

1016
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 4: makes sense. The biggest thing being we know Kirk Cousins

1017
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 4: loves his money.

1018
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: They got money to spend on it.

1019
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 9: Thank you, thank you everyone, everyone just like, hey, you know,

1020
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 9: we know Kirk's this guy, that guy, he loves his

1021
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 9: paper quarterbacks are paid what they are today because those

1022
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 9: cash and Washington.

1023
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 2: Franchising him three times real quick.

1024
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 3: You've got the colt here at number five and James

1025
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: and I found is very interesting because is it really

1026
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 3: that pressing because Anthony Richardson is basically going to be

1027
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 3: a rookie playing again, don't they have more of a

1028
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: grace period so to speak?

1029
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 4: Well, that would be the case they were in a

1030
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 4: different division, but they're in the AFC South, and we've

1031
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 4: seen Jacksonville Jaguars go from being the worst team in

1032
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 4: football to being a division champion.

1033
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: We've seen the Texans do it last year.

1034
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 4: And if for the Colts, you cannot stay in patt

1035
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 4: and just think it's all going to work out in

1036
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 4: your favor. You got two young quarterbacks in your division.

1037
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 4: You got a couple of smart general managers who've made

1038
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 4: some moves here. And I know Chris Ballard just as

1039
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 4: you know Brad Holme is not a big, just go

1040
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 4: after and be big and free agency type guy.

1041
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: But they got to make some smart moves.

1042
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 4: They got to be more explosive on offense around their

1043
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 4: quarterback Anthony Richardson. They gotta get better on defense and

1044
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 4: the back end. They got fun on their edge rusher,

1045
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 4: and so I look at corner, I look at safety,

1046
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 4: I look at edge rusher, defensive tackle, and certainly receiver

1047
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 4: and tied end. They got to fill those positions be

1048
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 4: ready to go because that division is not They don't

1049
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 4: be third place that division next season.

1050
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: Man, We're talking about the AFC South completely differently than

1051
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: we used to talk about Sea South, and they got

1052
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: Shane Stike and they did hit on the coach a

1053
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: year ago. I think that's almost solidified already real quick, Jeff.

1054
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: The other team you were talking about, maybe curious about

1055
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: putting on this list, the Philadelphia Eagles. I wants your

1056
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: take on Philly right now, because that is one of

1057
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 1: the more interesting spots in terms of an offseason, especially

1058
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: with Howie Roseman running the show.

1059
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 4: It is, and we know Howie Roseman always loves to

1060
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 4: make big moves and is certainly a genius when it

1061
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 4: comes to player acquisition. But I was thinking about them

1062
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 4: more so because of the culture. You know, they obviously

1063
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 4: have to find help a linebacker, they got to get

1064
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 4: faster at corner. But to me, like it's really more

1065
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 4: about how they handle all the things that went on

1066
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 4: last year at the end of the season. They've got

1067
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 4: two new coordinators coming in and Kellen Moore and Vic Fangio,

1068
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 4: so that'll help. But really it's more of a locker

1069
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 4: room thing. So I felt like those other teams we

1070
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 4: just mentioned, they can make some moves and be better.

1071
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: Just because of that.

1072
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 4: The ego's got to get through some things that are

1073
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 4: a lot more complicated.

1074
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I think it. It is complicated, and you know

1075
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: what they do. They know how to fix things quickly.

1076
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: In Philadelphia, Hi Rose is one of the best at

1077
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: flipping a roster or flipping a culture. However he does it.

1078
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: They find their way to get back pretty quick into

1079
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: the mix, and we'll see if that can happen. Jeff

1080
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks for throwing beginning of the segment. I

1081
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: didn't Joins. I'll talk to you soon, buddy.

1082
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that's good man.

1083
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, all right. Coming up the NFL Report on Thursday,

1084
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: we will have a brand spanking new show. Lancer Line

1085
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: was at the combine covering every single aspect of this draft.

1086
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: We'll have him doing the show. Mark Ross was on

1087
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: the field watching all of it. He will join the

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Speaker 1: show and Jane Slater as well. What happens with the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. We hated at a running back, a big

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Speaker 1: name running back. We'll see what Jane says on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: seven o'clock Eastern on the NFL Report. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the NFL Report. James Palmer, Steve Weich with you. We'd

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Speaker 1: like to remember I believe Steve everyone's friend. Chris Mortensen

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Speaker 1: from ESPN past away at the age of seventy two,

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Speaker 1: and really Steve from myself and a lot of younger

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Speaker 1: journalists maybe yourself included a north star essentially in terms

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Speaker 1: of reporting, being accurate, sourcing, but more importantly integrity, kindness, generosity,

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Speaker 1: things that oftentimes fall by the wayside in our business

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Speaker 1: because of the competitive nature of it. I have in

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Speaker 1: front of me just messages that mord has sent me

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Speaker 1: that are they just feel different Steve, than getting a

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Speaker 1: compliment or any type of you know, just connection with

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Speaker 1: another reporter when it comes from more, Hey, we're a

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Speaker 1: dying breed. Keep doing what you're doing. You know that

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Speaker 1: he respects the way you're doing it with integrity, that

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Speaker 1: ability to reach out to those colleagues, and whether they're

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Speaker 1: to reach out to them, Steve, and always kind of

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Speaker 1: just have such a respect for our business. That's the

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Speaker 1: part that I'll remember the most about More.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, even handed, like you said, develop great trust. He's

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Speaker 3: somebody no matter who you were, you always found a

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Speaker 3: way to build you up. One of the great human

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Speaker 3: first insiders him and Lenny Pascarelli, both Atlanta guys, you

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Speaker 3: know our ties to Atlanta, who broke big news, broke

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Speaker 3: important news. They broke it with the integrity that had

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Speaker 3: everybody trusting them more rest in power. James and I

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Speaker 3: felt the need just to you know, say condolences to

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Speaker 3: your family and all those who loved him. We want

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Speaker 3: to thank all of our guests for today's show on

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Speaker 3: the NFL Report and also listen to the podcast wherever

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Speaker 3: you get your podcast