WEBVTT - Second Date Update PODCAST: Poetry Slam

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<v Speaker 1>second date of to day. It's creepy or not creepy?

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody reading poetry to you on a first date in

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<v Speaker 1>front of a big crowd. Uh. I can't decide. I

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<v Speaker 1>need more information. I don't think i'd mind it too much.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't already read poets as long as their poem

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<v Speaker 1>into something like, Hey, it's our first date, let's have

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<v Speaker 1>good luck. Maybe we can go back to my house.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess I don't even know how you then that.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I don't know how what you'd run that.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even think of what you'd rhyn that with

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<v Speaker 1>at all. But that's what happened on Lily's first date

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<v Speaker 1>with a guy named Jamie. Apparently she read him poetry

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<v Speaker 1>on their first date. Lily, how are you WHOA? I

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<v Speaker 1>was fine until like you guys started calling it creepy.

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<v Speaker 1>That correction, Lily, nobody called it creepy. We said, we

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell if it's creepy. Yeah, we need to hear

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. We need to hear what happened first, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we can make the judgment on if it's creepy

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<v Speaker 1>or not. Tell us a little bit about your first date.

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<v Speaker 1>So we actually didn't even know each other before we

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<v Speaker 1>went to this poetry thing. I actually met him on

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<v Speaker 1>with dating website and one of his interests was poetry

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<v Speaker 1>and music. So I was like, hey, let's do something

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit different. I already feel like it's less

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<v Speaker 1>creepy since you both have the shared interest of poetry

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<v Speaker 1>going into it. Thank you, Brooks. See, I know I

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<v Speaker 1>can count on you to be like the voice of

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<v Speaker 1>reason here. So I mean, yeah, basically I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was a great idea and he ended up being like

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<v Speaker 1>super cutey, picked me up. We did get a bite

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<v Speaker 1>to eat before, and like it was just super chill,

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<v Speaker 1>like we like talked about music, you laughed a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you get to the poem? I get it. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys did all the date stuff and that's fun, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really curious about this poem. I mean, basically, the

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<v Speaker 1>poem is just like kind of the story of how

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<v Speaker 1>we met and also like I did like a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of Google research about like, you know, his family

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, so I could like surprise him, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>look how much I know about your family and like

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<v Speaker 1>your your old childhood pets and stuff like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I added that in just that's a little you found

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<v Speaker 1>out about his childhood pets and everything before you wrote.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like pictures online, like you know, just different,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like something about a golden retriever like that

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<v Speaker 1>you had when you were a kid. Like it was

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<v Speaker 1>too It wasn't creepy at all. So when did you

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<v Speaker 1>read this poem to him? I guess that's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>confused about. So I took him to this place. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like at a coffee shop where those people read

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<v Speaker 1>poetry and you can get up and share. So I

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<v Speaker 1>decided to surprise him just by getting up in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't even know I was going to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just got up and set the poem. How

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<v Speaker 1>did he react to that? I think he loved it,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't say that he loved it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he was probably just too taken aback that I would

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<v Speaker 1>like do something so nice, you know, on the first date.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were you're I mean, you're proud of the

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<v Speaker 1>poem you wrote for him. Yeah, I mean, am I

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<v Speaker 1>questioning a little bit now? Yeah, but like if you

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<v Speaker 1>read it, you would be proud of it too. Was

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<v Speaker 1>it silly or was it like a serious poem? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I only do like serious poetry, you know what I think? Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>if I were going out with you and I knew

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<v Speaker 1>you were in a poetry and you did that in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of somewhere where it was okay to do poetry,

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<v Speaker 1>not in the middle of like the restaurant or something,

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<v Speaker 1>I might think that's kind of sexy to see you

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<v Speaker 1>doing your art. No, No, I would like it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, but if that's her thing, like

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be like if I saw a girl sing or

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<v Speaker 1>something like, that would be sexy to me. So I

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<v Speaker 1>might be flattered by it, even if you did a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of weird research. Yeah. I actually did, like end

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<v Speaker 1>up crying a little bit during it because I got

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<v Speaker 1>sot like emotional and because I was still involved in Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about the crying. I've been with girls

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<v Speaker 1>that I've lived with for years, and when they cry

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<v Speaker 1>it still weirded me out. So the crying would be

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<v Speaker 1>a bit much for me. I wasn't like sobbing. I

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<v Speaker 1>just like, you know, kind of just thought choked up

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<v Speaker 1>for a second. Okay, well how did how did the

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<v Speaker 1>date continue after your poem him? Then? Well, that's the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I asked him if his roommate with home, just

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<v Speaker 1>because not because I wanted to like cook up, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to know if like he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>keep hanging out, you know, having a couple of beers,

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<v Speaker 1>because how is this something? And he was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my roommate's home, we'll hang out later, and he like

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<v Speaker 1>dropped me off, and it was just weird, Like it

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<v Speaker 1>was really abbrust How did you ask him if his

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<v Speaker 1>roommate was home, Like was it quiet? And you're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>is the house empty now? Or we got to be

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<v Speaker 1>extra quiet if we go back to your place? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I just asked his roommate was okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just wondering if it came off like you were

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<v Speaker 1>trying to go back there for more than hanging out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe he thought maybe that was the issue. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And have you heard from him since your date at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Not even at all? I can't even find his dating

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<v Speaker 1>profile anymore where it was like he deleted or something. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you did he shut everything down? I guess I looked

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<v Speaker 1>on other ones that I haven't been on before to

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<v Speaker 1>see if he was on different dating ones to find

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<v Speaker 1>him on there, and he I can't find him anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you think the reason and is that

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<v Speaker 1>he's not calling you back? I think he probably just

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<v Speaker 1>felt like too vulnerable in front of me because of

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<v Speaker 1>my poem, and like there's just like so many hard

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<v Speaker 1>feelings to deal with for a first date. Like he

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<v Speaker 1>probably likes me so much and it's so attractive to

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<v Speaker 1>me that he's scared. You know what, that can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It could happen. You know, maybe he's one of those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>He could be one of those guys that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>closed off, and you know, for those type of people

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<v Speaker 1>when they start feeling new emotions like that, it's confusing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in that same spot. Yeah, he's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit shy. Yeah, you know when you're sarcastic. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not being sarcastic. Why would I be sarcastic? It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he liked it so much that he just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to deal with it, and that's and it

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<v Speaker 1>scared him off. Yes, or maybe he just thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was really strange that you were doing so much Google

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<v Speaker 1>searching and then wrote a poem about him and did

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<v Speaker 1>it in front of I don't know how many people

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<v Speaker 1>were there. I don't know why you got to be

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just try to be honest with you so when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes up that that's the reason that you're not shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like the Google thing, it wasn't creepy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the way it came was not creepy at all. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he obviously launched to like have another date, but he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know how to. Okay, well let's solve that problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we'll play a song, come back, call him and

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<v Speaker 1>get your second date update. All right, Okay, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>you're welcome. Hang on Crooking Jubil in the Morning. Second

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<v Speaker 1>Lily is on the phone with us and today she

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<v Speaker 1>wants to call a guy named Jamie. They met online

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<v Speaker 1>went out for a date that included her taking him

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<v Speaker 1>to a place where they do sort of like open

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<v Speaker 1>mic poetry. She actually read him a poem she wrote

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<v Speaker 1>about him that she got by doing research on Google

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<v Speaker 1>and found out the name of his pets as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and all sorts of information about him, put it into

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<v Speaker 1>the poem, and then at one point started crying in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the poem. It was moving and for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason reason he's not calling her back, and we

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<v Speaker 1>can't figure out why. And like I said earlier, Lily,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had done this for me, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>found it incredibly moving and touching. So I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>why this guy's not calling you back. I really don't

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. You're welcome, Lily. You seem like a sensitive soul.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you sure you're up to doing a second date update? Honestly? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I called you, Guys, like, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to know either way, you know, just because I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea why, like it weren't so well, I'm ready

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<v Speaker 1>to hear the truth. Yeah, that's what you say. You

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<v Speaker 1>said that everything went really well on your date, and

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the first part at the second

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<v Speaker 1>date update, when we were talking to you, you even

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<v Speaker 1>said you're pretty sure that this guy wants to go

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<v Speaker 1>out with you. But maybe he's scared. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure that's I mean, that's what we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to hear. You know, we talked to him because your

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<v Speaker 1>poem could have brought up some intense feelings, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's sitting at home like, oh man, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to do now. I don't want to. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I believe in love at first sight

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden it happened, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. Yeah, like that's all I can think of.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know. All right, I'm gonna doubt

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<v Speaker 1>the phone. Um right now, get him on the phone

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<v Speaker 1>and find out why it's not calling you back. All right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, you're welcome. Hang on one second. Hello, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>can I speak to Jamie please? Yeah? This is hey Jamie.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? This is Jewil from brook and Jewil

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<v Speaker 1>in the Morning. I'm sorry, who Jebil from brook and

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<v Speaker 1>Jewil in the Morning, the radio show. Okay, Any idea

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<v Speaker 1>why I might be calling you? I haven't a clue. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm calling you because one of our listeners actually sent

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<v Speaker 1>us an email about you and asked if I get

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<v Speaker 1>you on the phone. Really, her name is Lily, Are

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<v Speaker 1>you serious? I am serious. She says, you guys recently

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<v Speaker 1>went out on a date and did yep, And she says,

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<v Speaker 1>now you're not calling her back, and so she asked

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<v Speaker 1>if we could get you on the phone and find

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<v Speaker 1>out why earth Ye, should she already know why you're

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<v Speaker 1>not calling her back? I mean I think that anybody

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<v Speaker 1>with any type of insight ought to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>take a hint, to take a hint. Yeah, she told

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<v Speaker 1>us a little bit about your date, and she thought

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<v Speaker 1>it went wonderful, did she Well, that's not the words

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<v Speaker 1>I would use to describe it. Um, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>got it was just weird. She like, read this poem

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Yeah, and well hang on, let me let

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<v Speaker 1>me go back. We went to a coffee shop. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she told us. She told us about that. We know

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<v Speaker 1>that she took you there and read a poem to you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well did she tell you about the poem? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that the poem was all about me and my family,

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<v Speaker 1>and she been threw in some stuff about my childhood,

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<v Speaker 1>pets and things like that. I mean, it's like, this

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<v Speaker 1>was our first date, so this isn't anything that we

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<v Speaker 1>would have had a discussion about prior to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>because we met online and none of this is in

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<v Speaker 1>my profile, so she had to have I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how she got this information. You know how she got it.

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<v Speaker 1>She googled it and she said she thought you were

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<v Speaker 1>moved by it and you liked it. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>she told you that she wrote this poem and that

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<v Speaker 1>she did all this research about me, I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>why you're calling me to ask me why I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>calling her back. I thought maybe there'd be another reason. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you did not. There is not another reason. No, not necessarily.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you didn't like her poem. She probably

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even tell you this, but she cried during the bolt. No, no, Jamie,

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<v Speaker 1>she told us that too. Oh my gosh, Oh she

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<v Speaker 1>did told you that, and you still picked up the

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<v Speaker 1>phone and called it. Yeah. Absolutely, I had to find

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<v Speaker 1>out if that was the reason why. Really, you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>just say, look, Lily, that might be a reason why

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<v Speaker 1>he might not call you back. I've been with girls

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<v Speaker 1>that are crazy like that, and all I was saying was,

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<v Speaker 1>how nail do I get out of here? Why didn't

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<v Speaker 1>you leave? When she was up on stage reading the

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<v Speaker 1>poem right in the middle of her. I couldn't believe

0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.960
<v Speaker 1>it was happening. I mean, she was reading the poem

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<v Speaker 1>about me, my family, my body being within her and

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<v Speaker 1>I was serious. It wasn't like a joke. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>kidding you. No, she was serious all right. So so

0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that's the reason the poem. Where did you out? Yeah? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how many times has she tried to get ahold of

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<v Speaker 1>you since that day? A few? Quite a few? Okay,

0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.080
<v Speaker 1>what if I told you that this is also a

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<v Speaker 1>way to get a hold of you and she's on

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<v Speaker 1>the other line listening right now, Jamie, Hello, come on, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>why would you do this? Dude? What? I just try

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<v Speaker 1>to reconnect you too. I am sorry that I had

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<v Speaker 1>to do it like this. I just feel like you needed,

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<v Speaker 1>like to open up communication somehow, and this is like

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<v Speaker 1>the only way. I'm sorry. If you feel like candles

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<v Speaker 1>or anything, I just don't talk to you. No, we

0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:15.080
<v Speaker 1>don't need open communication. We need to shut it down. Like.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to act like that because we're on

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<v Speaker 1>the radio and stuff, like, just talk to me like

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<v Speaker 1>it's just me and you right now, Okay, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell that you're just having trouble processing everything that

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<v Speaker 1>happened on our first date, because it was so much

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<v Speaker 1>for a first date, you know what I mean. I

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<v Speaker 1>was in shocked before. I couldn't believe that you had

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<v Speaker 1>done this. You obviously were shocked, Like who wouldn't be

0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:39.480
<v Speaker 1>shocked after feeling something that intensely? I was shocked too,

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<v Speaker 1>But like I'm a more emotionally like mature I guess that,

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<v Speaker 1>like I have the courage to like call you back

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<v Speaker 1>and talk faith to faith and how you're retreating from

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<v Speaker 1>your feeling obviously, Oh my god, do you hear yourself

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<v Speaker 1>right now? Do you hear yourself? Danny? The question is it,

0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.280
<v Speaker 1>do you hear yourself? I'm hearing someone who's very, very

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<v Speaker 1>scared whatever this this intense thing between us is, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing someone who's trying to mask it by being sunny,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's not working. I can see you through this,

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't have to shut down like I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you do with a lot of other girls. No,

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<v Speaker 1>because this doesn't happen with other girls. This is not normal.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not how you were acting on the date.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm sure that, like, if you can just take

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<v Speaker 1>any breath and we can talk through this and we

0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:31.040
<v Speaker 1>can try it again. No, no, listen, there's probably somebody

0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:35.199
<v Speaker 1>out there for you, not me, but probably somebody maybe

0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:40.920
<v Speaker 1>on some other planets. But at this point, Jamie, I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to ask if you will go on a

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<v Speaker 1>second date with Lily and try to explore your emotions

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<v Speaker 1>just a tad bit. Okay, you're sure, Jamie? No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not at I don't know, Lily. It sounds like he's

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<v Speaker 1>on the fence. Yeah. I mean I feel like he

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<v Speaker 1>says no to a lot of things right now because he's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, too emotionally immature to say yes. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not closing a door. You just gotta give it time,

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<v Speaker 1>Give it time. Yeah, stop doing that, just Jamie, You

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<v Speaker 1>just need time to mature. No, he needs you need

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to him. Yeah, listen to me, Jamie. No,

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<v Speaker 1>stop it. Why maybe he can't. Yeah, I'm trying for you, Lily,

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<v Speaker 1>jubil You weren't making this situation eighty times worse right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we should do this just with the three of us,

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like that's a better dynamic. Yeah, Jamie,

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<v Speaker 1>would you be willing to go out with Lily and

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<v Speaker 1>me and sit down and talk about your feelings like

0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:40.400
<v Speaker 1>grown adults. Maybe you too should go out you know what, Fine, then, Lily,

0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:43.680
<v Speaker 1>would you like to go out with me? I mean, honestly,

0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.360
<v Speaker 1>that's so sweet, but like, I'm not interested in you

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<v Speaker 1>right now. It's all it's all about it's all about Jamie. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>broken Jebil in the morning. It's been a lot day

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<v Speaker 1>without you, my friend.