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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on esp

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan's

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Speaker 1: a Girl. Yea, all right, let's do it live on

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Speaker 1: a Friday edition of Cleveland Browns Daily. I am merely

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Speaker 1: Bo Gibbe is here. He is on roller coasters at

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Speaker 1: Cedar Point. I'm wondering if he got it all in

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Speaker 1: with the rain. According to him, he's good to go.

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Speaker 1: No rain up there, Like yes, I was kind of

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Speaker 1: rooting for it fail. That's where I was at his

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Speaker 1: day off field. Let him live a beautiful day. Yeah

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Speaker 1: he had. The last time he took time off he

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Speaker 1: was supposed to and I was in here solo for him. Um,

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Speaker 1: he was supposed to play golf and that was undone.

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Speaker 1: Didn't it just rain all day? It was on a Friday.

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Speaker 1: It was on a Friday. Yeah, so that just just

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Speaker 1: rained all day. So at least he's riding coasters. This

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Speaker 1: will be my first weekend off that I don't have

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Speaker 1: a obligation with a child or work in weeks. The

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Speaker 1: wife was like, you you got the hall pass, I said,

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Speaker 1: I was wonderful understand something. I was taking the hall

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Speaker 1: pass anyways, after all the work I've done this week. Um,

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Speaker 1: and then uh, I looked at the weather and I

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Speaker 1: square one. What do we gotta worry about? We gotta

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Speaker 1: worry about, Like tomorrow morning is that the tomorrow afternoon

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Speaker 1: afternoon is where it gets So I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 1: And then Sunday just kind of looks like grossness. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the sixties or some rain. I don't know. I can't

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Speaker 1: tell if Sunday is like an all day intervidals of

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Speaker 1: clouds and sunshine in the afternoon Sunday might be depending

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Speaker 1: on when the rain happens. That could be your That

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Speaker 1: might be your sweet spot there because it's hot Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. On my in my neck of

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Speaker 1: like nasty weather after three o'clock tomorrow, so I could

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Speaker 1: get in some some festivity. You might have a little

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Speaker 1: it looks like our guys are having a good time

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Speaker 1: in the Bahamas playing a little golf today. Uh. Down

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Speaker 1: there and um at the Atlantis from Nick Chubb's Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I saw that that they are at the Is there

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Speaker 1: by the way, I like the idea that Nick Chubb

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Speaker 1: is in the Is in the Bahamas, at the Atlantis

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Speaker 1: place where Bootsy frolic not even two months ago. That

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Speaker 1: have that now in common, um, and that they're all

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Speaker 1: playing golf at the Ocean Club, which is fantastic. Gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: be mindful of the Lazy River. Be very well, boy,

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Speaker 1: you're not wrong. Here's the key to that whole operation.

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Speaker 1: On that lazy River. You have got to and all

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Speaker 1: of these guys have fantastic abdominable strength, you have got

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Speaker 1: to pull your hind quarters out of that tube. You

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Speaker 1: have to try to straddle the top of the tube.

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Speaker 1: And if you do that, you're gonna be fine. If

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Speaker 1: you're hind quarters get in the whole of the tube,

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Speaker 1: that's where you're gonna run into problems. Now you're talking

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Speaker 1: about bleeding, bruising disaster. You've got to do that because

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Speaker 1: the bumps, the concrete bumps in the Lazy River will

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Speaker 1: bite you if you are not prepared. No, thank you

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Speaker 1: is the answer we're looking for. Yeah, no, it's not great.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine those guys down there like running up

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Speaker 1: you go live you mentually like being some kid your

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Speaker 1: We did that in California. Great, there was nobody there.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's doing anything in school now anyway.

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Speaker 1: I said, I feel like I've been in this school

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Speaker 1: When are you guys done? Her final day of school

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Speaker 1: the the rest of the school. Senior exams are next week,

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Speaker 1: but she tested out of them. If I guess, if

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Speaker 1: Um okay, so they got that. Then they go a

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Speaker 1: Memorial Day. That's nothing. That's gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 1: movie times. What that's yea, nothing's getting done. Everything that's

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Speaker 1: We're out of it. Where would you if you were

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Speaker 1: the quarterback of an NFL team with a lucrative contract,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna take thirty offensive players on a on a

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Speaker 1: get let's get together and be buddies, conversation and let's

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Speaker 1: learn the offense and throw some passes, have a good time.

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Speaker 1: Where would you take him? I am a big fan

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Speaker 1: the southern portion of can Kun and the all inclusive

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Speaker 1: no nope. But if I got to foot the bill

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Speaker 1: for everybody like that, every bill is, yeah, all inclusive?

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Speaker 1: Out the door. The what what would what drove me

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Speaker 1: eighteen percent gratuity on that. And then they had the

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Speaker 1: No two lines here. If you're already charging me for

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Speaker 1: two percent from me. No, just that's it. Whatever you

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Speaker 1: would probably stay stateside. I would probably stay state side,

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Speaker 1: do a little destined. You could do a destined. The

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Speaker 1: problem there is going to be do you have you

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Speaker 1: The only problem there is, you know, you've got to

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Speaker 1: Scott's Dale, Arizona. Let's see what's what's reading. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: it's totally that's fine. In the morning, get to workout

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Speaker 1: you go toss the pigskin around eight am it's seventy two.

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Speaker 1: I mean, hell, you could toss it around until really

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Speaker 1: Shaun for doing that. I'm sure it's lovely. P J

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Speaker 1: Will Brinson, who, in response to John Daily playing yesterday

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Speaker 1: the way that he played, brought up an old story

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Speaker 1: he did when he followed him at the Windham Championships.

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Speaker 1: So he followed Daily at the Windham Championships. And I

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Speaker 1: think what spurred this on is Daily is sponsored by Hooters,

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Speaker 1: So I actually followed John Daily for an entire round

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Speaker 1: now this is not yesterday the PGA, but my guess

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Speaker 1: is it's similar. By his count, John Daily consumed twenty

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Speaker 1: one cigarettes, twelve diet cokes, and six packs of Eminem's

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Speaker 1: peanut Eminem's and that's it. That's the consumption. What what

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Speaker 1: was it? Tiger Woods, there's there's a story about him

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Speaker 1: and daily playing together and it was a day like

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the summer where it was ninety

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Speaker 1: eight degrees humidity. To match whatever Tiger Wood said, he

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Speaker 1: consumed thirty waters, thirty bottles of water. And John Daly's

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Speaker 1: like a thirteen diet cokes. Why about to be fair

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Speaker 1: diet coached mait of water. There's there's water in it.

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Speaker 1: It can also take the corrosion off your car battery,

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Speaker 1: but there is water in it. Which of those would

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Speaker 1: be the hardest for you? How would you rank those harder?

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Speaker 1: It is the easiest to consume in a round of golf.

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Speaker 1: The twenty one cigarettes, the twelve diet cokes are the

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Speaker 1: six packs of peanut I could blow through the six

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Speaker 1: Who doesn't it's probably the people candy, it's the perfect Eminem. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you're doing them, out rushmore of candy. I think

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Speaker 1: candy candy bar. I think that's George Washington. That's the

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Speaker 1: perfect candies. Got everything you wanted, salt, sweet, crunchy, no mess,

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Speaker 1: handful three at a time, whatever. I mean, the variety,

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Speaker 1: the versatility. To me, the peanut eminem is a win.

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Speaker 1: It's the Then it's a real tough one. Between cigarettes,

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Speaker 1: which has got to be close to a pack, I

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Speaker 1: would think, and then a twelve twelve of diet There's

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Speaker 1: no way I could drink twelve diet cokes. The cigarettes

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Speaker 1: actually easier to consume than the diet coakes. I think

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Speaker 1: That's a big deal for him to say something like that.

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Speaker 1: It's a big deal for Nick Saban to say what

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Speaker 1: he said this week. It's a big deal that Chimbo

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Speaker 1: as he was. It's a big deal. And all of

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Speaker 1: very highest level here at the in the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: and that when you draft Nick Chubb, Miles Garrett Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. Jarvis Landry. When you acquire these people,

432
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433
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Speaker 1: it didn't work, but there were a few athletes on

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Speaker 1: the planet that were a bigger deal at the time

435
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Speaker 1: than him. He sold a lot of number two jerseys

436
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Speaker 1: and everybody likes that relationship, and nobody wants that to change.

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Speaker 1: College sports don't want that to change. College football coaches

438
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Speaker 1: don't want that to change. I guess what. The NFL

439
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Speaker 1: doesn't want it to change because it's working. It's working.

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Speaker 1: They're not having to develop eighteen year olds. They get

441
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Speaker 1: them pretty damn close to fully formed. At it's the

442
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Speaker 1: best system going. It's the best minor league in sports.

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Speaker 1: That's why the NFL doesn't need they want no part

444
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Speaker 1: of any change. I wanted to stay exactly how it is,

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Speaker 1: and I think we all do too, and I think

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Speaker 1: largely it will largely well less Bruce Felbon, he will

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Speaker 1: join us here momentarily on this one other thing before

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Speaker 1: we get out of here. Uh. And an incredible congratulations

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Speaker 1: it was the you. But congratulations to Joseph uh son

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Speaker 1: of Bernie on his graduation. Uh, well well done, young man. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Lots to get to Bruce Feldman coming up here momentarily.

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Speaker 1: interesting thing about all of this is I saw this

479
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Speaker 1: from a guy from Jason Gay writes for The Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal. Um, he said this is and it's on point.

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Speaker 1: Imagine a college football coach explaining the n L N

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Speaker 1: and if they don't get paid enough, they might go

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Speaker 1: somewhere else. It's a disaster. Yeah, I thought it was

486
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Speaker 1: crazy in all of the back and forth yesterday. And

487
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Speaker 1: by the way, how about the SEC commissioner putting a

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Speaker 1: kai bosh for those who Lane Kiffin was supposed to

489
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Speaker 1: go on Dan Patrick this morning? And the SEC boss

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Speaker 1: Greg Sanky, who is the most powerful man in college

491
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Speaker 1: sports and and probably on a very short list of

492
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Speaker 1: most for men in sports in this country. Um, he said, no,

493
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Speaker 1: actually you won't. In fact, none of you are going

494
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Speaker 1: to be. No one will be because we're done. What

495
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Speaker 1: did we say yesterday? What's the next big certain it's

496
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Speaker 1: all TV show. Look what he's done. This has dominated

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Speaker 1: the sports conversation all week. In a week where we

498
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Speaker 1: have the conference finals in the NBA, we have the

499
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Speaker 1: conference semifinals in the NHL, Major League Baseball, and full

500
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Speaker 1: swing golf second Major is taking place, and all anyone's

501
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Speaker 1: talking about is two coaches, both from West Virginia se

502
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Speaker 1: play five months from now. They play five months from now.

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Speaker 1: What's bacco Nation have here? He got there? What do

504
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Speaker 1: you have? Give you like that? You want a donut?

505
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Speaker 1: Give a I'm okay, it's from a bake shop. It

506
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Speaker 1: feels like a win. Bacco is coming in with don't

507
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Speaker 1: mean he's coming in I got you. Yeah, that's very good,

508
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Speaker 1: very thought from mad hatter batter Oh Brandon, the Kentston bomber. Well,

509
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Speaker 1: the follows fails, bribe. Here's the thing that so Saban.

510
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Speaker 1: All Saban did this week is say out loud what

511
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Speaker 1: everyone's been thinking forever on college athletics. All he did

512
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Speaker 1: was say it all out loud. That's all that happened here.

513
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Speaker 1: Um in the concerns he has our real ones. There's

514
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Speaker 1: no question about it. Right now. The sport is rudderless

515
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: right now, the sport has no guardrails. And Saban made

516
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Speaker 1: a plea for his people in Alabama, both in the

517
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Speaker 1: state legislature and boosters at Alabama, and said, hey, you

518
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Speaker 1: want me to keep this up, You're gonna have to

519
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Speaker 1: get into some pockets because we don't have enough to

520
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: compete with these guys right now. We can't quote outwork

521
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Speaker 1: these guys right now because they are paying. I don't

522
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Speaker 1: know why jimbro was out of shape about it. They

523
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Speaker 1: did pay. Everybody knows. They aid. It's part of it's

524
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Speaker 1: state law in Texas for the collectives to work to

525
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Speaker 1: get the money and give them to the players. All

526
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Speaker 1: he did was take advantage of the the laws in the state.

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Speaker 1: That's it. And to be fair, I don't think Saban

528
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Speaker 1: was concredit was, you know, accusing them of anything more

529
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Speaker 1: than that. Um. So that gets you to where you are.

530
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Speaker 1: That gets you to where we were. They get you

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Speaker 1: where the sport is going. Um. The one thing that

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Speaker 1: I've always loved about college football, in addition to the

533
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Speaker 1: pageantry and the alumni back for big game on campus

534
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Speaker 1: and all of the tailgating and everything that makes go

535
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Speaker 1: into a place wherever you went to school special or

536
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Speaker 1: wherever you root for team special, and I think, on

537
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Speaker 1: its best, even better than the NFL. All of that

538
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: is part of it. The other thing that's part of it, though,

539
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Speaker 1: is the CD underbelly. It's only been there forever. The

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Speaker 1: CD underbelly of the sport has been there forever. It's

541
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Speaker 1: been a part of it. And your program, whoever it

542
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Speaker 1: is you may root for, is not immune to it.

543
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: It happened at your program. And part of the appeal

544
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Speaker 1: of the sport to me is is that is the

545
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,239
Speaker 1: intrigue that goes around that the notion that if you

546
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Speaker 1: beat me, it's because you cheated, and if I beat you,

547
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Speaker 1: you probably think I cheated. I don't know if there

548
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Speaker 1: is a such thing as a clean college football program,

549
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: not a good one. I don't think it exists, well,

550
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Speaker 1: not totally. And if you're a head coach, you can

551
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Speaker 1: have all the best intentions of running a clean program

552
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: or you know, buttoned up and everything. All it takes

553
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Speaker 1: is one booster that doesn't have the same intentions as you,

554
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Speaker 1: and you can become a dirty program without even knowing it.

555
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Speaker 1: I don't think that there are that many programs. I

556
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Speaker 1: think most coaches take, you know, kind of the urban approach.

557
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Speaker 1: I just don't want to know about it. Yeah, Bruce

558
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Speaker 1: Falman's wrapping up another interview. Yeah, I figured that was

559
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Speaker 1: probably what happens doing. He's on the national circuit and

560
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Speaker 1: he made a little time for us today. Yeah, I

561
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Speaker 1: think that's that's not surprising. But I mean that's that's

562
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Speaker 1: what most do. Is they take the approach of most

563
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Speaker 1: have done us forever, just look the other way. It's

564
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Speaker 1: it's it's blue chips. You stay away from my players,

565
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Speaker 1: hap And yet I gotta have Ricky row go get

566
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Speaker 1: his dad attractor a bag of cash. I mean, that's

567
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Speaker 1: the It's been that way forever, so it's and it

568
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Speaker 1: will continue to. Now a lot of that's just above board,

569
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Speaker 1: and I think one of the beefs Saban has is

570
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Speaker 1: now he doesn't control it, you know. And the other

571
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Speaker 1: beef that he has is that he's not operating on

572
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Speaker 1: a level playing field with everybody else. No, you could

573
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Speaker 1: argue in some would that he hasn't ever been that

574
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Speaker 1: the advantages he had at Alabama were greater than it

575
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Speaker 1: anywhere else to begin with. But I would say this

576
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Speaker 1: going back to what your comment was yesterday, when he

577
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: inherited that program, they weren't Alabama, no, like they were Alabama,

578
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Speaker 1: but it was talked about in the look what we

579
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Speaker 1: did thirty years ago? Oh yeah, they yeah, they wanted,

580
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Speaker 1: they wanted. In ninety two they beat Miami and the

581
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Speaker 1: Sugar Bowl, and then they were on uh, they were

582
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Speaker 1: on probation, they were uh. They went through a bunch

583
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Speaker 1: of different coaches. Dennis Francioni was there, Dave Shula was there,

584
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Speaker 1: Um Debose, Mike Debos as a coach there at one

585
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Speaker 1: time following Jeans stalling. So they had a bunch of

586
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Speaker 1: different coaches and it failed miserably in many many ways,

587
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: um and and so yeah, he he took the best

588
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: of it. He took what it was, and he awoke

589
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: in the sleeping giant. The other big takeaway is the

590
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Speaker 1: person yesterday that made some of the most sense out

591
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Speaker 1: of anybody was Dion Sanders. Yes, and it made He said, Look,

592
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Speaker 1: I'm not mad like, but I don't want to have

593
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Speaker 1: a private conversation. I need to have a public This

594
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: needs to be a public conversation so that everybody knows

595
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Speaker 1: where we're all coming from here. But then he said

596
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Speaker 1: at the end, he's talking to his boosters, which we

597
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: talked about, but is he talking to his boosters because

598
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: he needs them to put pressure on the Statehouse to

599
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: change the laws both so he can get a level

600
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: of playing field. He needs both. He needs this state

601
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: legislature in Alabama to give him this, to give him

602
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: the same jurisdiction that they have in Texas. It's not jurisdiction,

603
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: the same sidelines rules that they have in Texas. And

604
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: he needs Alabama boosters to pony up. Now here's the

605
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: one thing that Alabama doesn't have. They don't have a

606
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 1: bunch of billionaire boosters. They don't have oil money Texas

607
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: has oil money Texas and m As oil money. So

608
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: that's the big difference. There is where where that goes

609
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Speaker 1: from here? Um? And there was a there was a

610
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: fascinating story. Uh this Jordan Addison, kid who played at

611
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: pitt won the Bulitic Award last year, basically became a

612
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Speaker 1: free agent. It's reportedly that he signed for three and

613
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: a half million dollars to play at USC. That's more

614
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: than our second round receivers will make. And he's getting

615
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: that allegedly to play at USC. No, I don't know

616
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Speaker 1: how much of this is real. That's the other part

617
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Speaker 1: of this. And I've talked to my buddy Ari Wasserman

618
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Speaker 1: at the athletic about this. Who handles the recruiting. You

619
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: can't very you can't justify it. You can't make sense

620
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Speaker 1: of any of this money. You know you can. You

621
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: can't do it. Um. Hey, Paulas tell tells z were

622
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: we're expecting another call. Tell him to call back in

623
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Speaker 1: the two o'clock hour. He's probably routing a roller coaster

624
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Speaker 1: somewhere because he is calling in. Yeah, I don't know

625
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: what he's trying to help us out, probably, but well,

626
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Speaker 1: we did tell him to call in we did. We

627
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Speaker 1: did it sound like he would be privy to the

628
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Speaker 1: rundown correctly, Yeah, right of what we're What's what's going

629
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Speaker 1: on here in the program. So maybe we maybe let's

630
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: take a little breather. We'll reset some things and hope

631
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: Bruce is wrapping up and then we'll be able to

632
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Speaker 1: talk exactly whatever is going on. He's running a little behind,

633
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Speaker 1: so so from so just just the heads up from z.

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635
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Speaker 1: He refuses to call back in it. We're gonna keep

637
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Speaker 1: calling him. You blew it away, Paula. So I'm just

638
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: gonna have your call on my MP for the next

639
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Speaker 1: I need on a Friday. Really, it's real. He is

650
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: all right, So Feldon's on, This isn't I don't know

651
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: what Felton, who knows, who the hell knows, but we're

652
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: not having him on today. There's no way who knows

653
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: what he's gonna when he could call in with the

654
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: other things that are planned. So there's it's I don't

655
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: see a scenario. You got eight minutes left here, you're fine.

656
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: You know we're gonna blow out some of your other plans. Gibbey, Absolutely,

657
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: I'd like to what kind of see We'll see where

658
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: all this goes. Meantime, Z's at cedar point. He's he asked,

659
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: he called in, we were buffed, and now who're going

660
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: to try him again. I don't think he's gonna pick up.

661
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: That's fine. I don't care if he picks up or not. Well, yes,

662
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: we do hope it rains. We do hope it picks up.

663
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: We do hope he picks up. We'll be fine. Yeah,

664
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: we'll be fine. We've got a little higher lower coming

665
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: up at two thirty Z let it go to voicemail. Yeah,

666
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: you messed up, people, you messed up. It's not people,

667
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: my friend. I haven't text him instead, be peppy. That's

668
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: what's a good line. That Pappy is way better my wife.

669
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: I came home, My wife was almost a vegetable because

670
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: she'd been up for straight hours. That's happened twice this week,

671
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 1: and that doesn't happen for her in years. So are

672
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: you in the are you texting me or texting him directly?

673
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: Texting him directly that his attacks on you should not

674
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: be played with me being the brunt. I wasn't trying, Like,

675
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: here's what once we hit I think once you hit

676
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: one thirty five on the Feldman, then he's not coming

677
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: on because there's no radio interview in the country that

678
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: So you booked him at one thirty. There's no radio

679
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: there's no radio interview in the country that starts at

680
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: I if I was and I've been plenty of guests

681
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: on radio show US, if I have a previous engagement

682
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: and I'm committing to one thirty, that means my previous

683
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: engagement starts no later than one fifteen, there's no way.

684
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: So that means he's been on a radio show for

685
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: thirty minutes straight without a break. Totally possible. Where in

686
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: what market you would be amazed at some of the

687
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: people doing. I have heard stories, no names, that have

688
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: told me they've been guests on radio shows that we're

689
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be a five to ten minute interview that

690
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: went forty minutes and they had to end it finally

691
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: and go, hey, guys, I gotta go like, I don't

692
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: be built for that. In Paduca, like we all have

693
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: to hit, you gotta hit things. I have no idea.

694
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: I don't know where he's at right now. Maybe he

695
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: got maybe he's getting additional information. Maybe he's on a

696
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: conference call. Yeah, that makes more sense, chasing down feeling

697
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: on his non regional addiction. That makes far more sense

698
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: than Uh, then you're not being able to come on.

699
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: So anyways, I came home last night and my wife's like,

700
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm aware that you talked about our grandson all day

701
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: A little bit, good chunk of the day. Uh, they

702
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: got a name for me. I don't like it, So

703
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: I need you to come up and she goes, it's

704
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: already been decided. What you are. They had a conference. Yeah,

705
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: because you got a lot of like the great grandparents

706
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: are still alive, the grandparents are alive. Like you got names,

707
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, for everybody. And she's like, Peepa is is

708
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: his someone? Well it's my son in law's grandfather is Peepa. Yeah.

709
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm out of the people, which is great.

710
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: Couldn't be happier. She's like, you're gonna be Pappy. I

711
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 1: love that, and I'm like, oh, I can remember that.

712
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be that's right. I'm gonna be honest with you.

713
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you're one. You're one of my favorite people,

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00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: Pappy Gibbe and Pappy van Winkle is one of my

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00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: other favorite people. So all of those things work. You.

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00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: I might just tell the boys they can start calling

717
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: me that now. I'd love to be Pappy perfect. I

718
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: should have pushed that. I don't know, I didn't think

719
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: of that. Pappy is fantastic, Yeah, I was. I was

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Speaker 1: pretty smitten with that work. Pappy Gibbey on the golf

721
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: bag cheets. I like it. I don't know what more anything,

722
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Speaker 1: but I love it. Perfect works perfectly. I absolutely love it.

723
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Speaker 1: I was. I was very pleased I said, okay, we're good,

724
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: so have been called far worse. Um, just to give

725
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: you folks an idea. So this is uh Friday, May,

726
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: We're doing an NFL show in the Cleveland Browns. I've

727
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: just pulled up ESPN just for just for the hell

728
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: of it to see what was going on. The number

729
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: one story in regard to the NFL is currently this

730
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: second controversial one of one. Tom Brady, rookie card sells

731
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: an auction for three thousand dollars. The back of it

732
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: is an image of him with a shaved head. And

733
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: to think that this human ended up the way that

734
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: he looks now accomplished what he looks now no chance.

735
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: Here are the other stories. Michael Vicks set to join

736
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: fan controlled football, Brian Dable wants quarterback Jones to turn

737
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: it loose pun or Coke Ravens, longest tenured player, retires,

738
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: The enemy left which to attend NFL diversity event, Goodell

739
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: Bill's grades, visit Memorial Volunteers, ex Giants, quarterback Bradberry and

740
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: Steel with Eagles. That was two days ago. CFL players

741
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: union reached labor deal and strike. It's all quiet on

742
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: the Western Front. From an NFL perspective, there's just been

743
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: no news and this has been this way all off.

744
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: There's no news in any part of the sports world today. No. Well,

745
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on, like if there's but there's

746
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: no news. You know. It's like my other obligations this morning.

747
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: Like there's a thousand angles on this college football stuff.

748
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: There's a thousand angles to it. Um. You do, you

749
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: do have the NBA Conference Finals on going, you do

750
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: have the PGA Championship ongoing, But the sport that we

751
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: primarily care about and talk about, nothing, it's quiet now.

752
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: I think next week we'll start up with O T

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00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: A S. So basically, here's the deal. You're gonna have

754
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: O T A s um looking at my schedule correctly,

755
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: so on Tuesday, so you'll have O T A S.

756
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: There's ten O T A sessions Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday for

757
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: the next two weeks, and then the week of June six,

758
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: you'll have four days of O T A S so

759
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: ten O t as total, and then four weeks from

760
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: now mandatory minicamp. Four weeks from today, mandatory mini camps

761
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: over and we're onto the season. Yeah, that's too late

762
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: to me. Mandatory minicamp is gonna be first week of June.

763
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: It used to be. I don't like this mid June stuff,

764
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 1: like there's no summer. I mean, you're back here last

765
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: week in July, right in that camp, last week in July,

766
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: right back in it. It's crazy. Um. There are still

767
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 1: some enormous names out there in free agency in the NFL.

768
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner is still out there. He's on accounting for

769
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: Jadavian Clowney. I feel like it's going to be here,

770
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: but who knows. I mean until the ink is dry,

771
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: who knows. Stefan Gilmour is still out there in free agency.

772
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: I'll take the ink being wet for right, Yeah, just something.

773
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: Odell is still out there. I think that'll be an

774
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: in season one. I think that he'll get a full

775
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: rehab and um and that will be an in season one.

776
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: J C. Treader is still out there, our guy a

777
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: Keem Hicks, Melvin Ingram, and Tonio Brown Calais Campbell among

778
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: those still out there in free agency. So there's still

779
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: a lot of big, big names out there in free

780
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: agency in the NFL. By the way, you're listening to

781
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland pretty good out of the way. If indeed

782
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna get pretty pretty good job out of you

783
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: to sneak that in. I was headed there, uh w

784
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: K and R Cleveland a good CARBA brand station. Do that.

785
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: We gotta get that in. If if indeed so, because

786
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: this is we will, we'll have some time here with Bruce.

787
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: If it is indeed, bruth I, we do have Bruce Felman.

788
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to him now, Bruce Felban to

789
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: the Athletic on the on the hotline here, obviously a

790
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: lot going on in college football. Bruce. I tried to

791
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: lay it out for our listeners kind of what this

792
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: week has been, UM, and you guys at the Athletic

793
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: have done a tremendous job your story, no love lost,

794
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: the stuff Stewart's donne, Ari and Andy, all the stuff

795
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: everybody's done at the Athletic. You guys really are at

796
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: the home of college football in terms of covering it. Um.

797
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: When when Nick Saban said what he said Wednesday, did

798
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: you think it that this would follow? Not quite to

799
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: that degree. But Jimbo Fisher's personality is such where of

800
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: all the Saban protege's disciples, he's the one most likely

801
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: not to sit on his hands and take it and

802
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: just kind of gor I'm gonna let it be, especially

803
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: the allegation as it was. I mean he bought his

804
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: whole recruiting class. I mean Nick Saban went there and

805
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: in a you know, rarely does anybody in the middle

806
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: of coaching much less with that platform blast somebody like

807
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: that Bruce. The thing that I the way I read

808
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: the Salmon comments Wednesday night were not so much that

809
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: almost was an unintended casualty of it. To me. I

810
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: I read it as him speaking to his contituous constituency saying, Hey,

811
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: they're better at this than we are. From an organizational standpoint.

812
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: They have a collective we don't. We have got to

813
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: get in line quickly if you want me to continue

814
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: at the level I've been continuing. Yet, we've got to

815
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: make sure we have a level, level playing field. That's

816
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: how I read it. That's how it felt to me

817
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: when he said it. It almost felt like a plea

818
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: to BAMA boosters and the people in the state that hey,

819
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: if we want to keep this up, I don't think

820
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to do so at the current

821
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: rate that we're doing it. Based on where this sport

822
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: is going Um is that Did you take that from

823
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: it as well or did you read it differently? I

824
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: think that there may have been elements of that, but

825
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: just the words, you know, when he said he bought

826
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: us old class essentially in that the headline, there's no

827
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: you know kind of you know, Nick Saban is almost

828
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: always very calculated when he gets into a big setting.

829
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: He knows his platform, he leverages it, and um, you

830
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: know that that was going those were really strong accusations.

831
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: Whether he got two riled up and just kind of misspoke. Um,

832
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: he knows, you know, He's always very calculating those settings,

833
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: more so than any head coach in college football, you know.

834
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: And so you know, for this story that I worked

835
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: on when my colleagues at the Athletic that went up

836
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: today about the Jimbo Saban dynamic and the relationship, you know,

837
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: one of the things has always come up with these

838
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: guys who know Nick Saban and work with him for

839
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: years and probably know him best or like you know,

840
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: Jimbo finally beat him, and Nick made an excuse instead

841
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: of saying I got my ask beat, you know, and

842
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: it's like that's what a lot of them think just

843
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: happened there, and he couldn't just leave it at that.

844
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: And so for those who don't know, and I encourage

845
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: you to read Bruce's piece No Love Lost, the story

846
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: and the athletic that just went up about the history

847
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: between Nick and Jibbo. Jimbo was an offensive coordinator for

848
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: Nick at l s U. Jimbo then has a couple

849
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: of stops between ends up being the coach and waiting

850
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: at Florida State for Bobby Bowden, who he revered um.

851
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: And that's where I got to know Jimbo a little bit.

852
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: I was down in Tallahassee at the time of that

853
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: higher and remember him coming in and kind of the

854
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: breath of fresh air he was to that program that

855
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: desperately needed it. And then he beat Saban this year

856
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: on the field, which hadn't been done. He beat him Um,

857
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: and then he beat him in recruiting. The one thing

858
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: I'm curious about Bruce is, to my understanding, due to

859
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: Texas law and the way that they're running their collective,

860
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: it feels to me like Jimbo and Texas A and

861
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: M just did this better and took advantage of the

862
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: rules that they're allowed to within the state. And in

863
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: a sense, if they did buy the class. It's legal

864
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: for them to do. So what am I missing anything

865
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: on that? I think there's some that's a lot of

866
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: stuff that I think depends on who you talk to

867
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 1: will be like, is that if you have boosters involved, um,

868
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: there's still violations that are there that people have either

869
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: um glossed over. Like here's the part that I think

870
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: is is kind of preposterous. And all of this is

871
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: the aspect of we don't know what our collective is doing.

872
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: How would you not know, like the idea that that

873
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: a collective could be spending five dollars on some three

874
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: star defensive linemen and that's just the collectives business, and

875
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now he's gonna play for your program.

876
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous that there's no way that happens like that

877
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: because you're not going to spend money on players for

878
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: them to coach, because they know more than anybody what

879
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: the evaluations are. So, you know, I think a lot

880
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: of this is um it's so you know, it's like

881
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: right now, so undeveloped and how the things are playing

882
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: out that I think what A and M was was

883
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: they were aggressive early and what you had was you know,

884
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: desperate rich people who you know, I say desperate. They're

885
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: desperate for their program to become something that it's not

886
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: right now, and they have the resources, and they're aggressive,

887
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: and they jumped out there, and I think that, you know,

888
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: so we've seen some other programs jump out there too

889
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: now similarly, but I think where you know, Nick Saban's

890
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: frustration probably not just getting beat by Jimbo Fisher, not

891
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: to but beg getting beat on some recruits. I think

892
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: that all kind of came to ahead this week. Yeah,

893
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that, talking to the great

894
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: Bruce Felmo, the athletic Um, and don't I I believe

895
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: that this as well, that there are certain states that

896
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 1: are now making it law where it is a where

897
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: a coach is able to point a collective or a

898
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: collective is able to have a conversation with a coach

899
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: and so that they can organize on who they want

900
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: to go take care of. Didn't this just happen to

901
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: Missouri last week? Bruce? Yeah? I think it's like it's

902
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: hard to keep track of there was a California law

903
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: that was just kind of getting you know, worked on yesterday.

904
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: It's hard to keep track of all the different ones.

905
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: I think the challenging part of this is you know

906
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: there's going to be lawsuits from antitrust related you have

907
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: agents shopping around and I think that that's that's the

908
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: part where this is. This is so um right now,

909
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: so murky and all of it. And I don't think

910
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: you're putting the toothpaste back in the tube. Um, And

911
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: you have a lot of people are very frustrated, and

912
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of stuff that is still

913
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: to be sorted out. I think it's noteworthy, Bruce that

914
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 1: Nick Saban said to your point, he never says anything

915
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: on accident. It's all calculated, it's all very pointed um.

916
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: And so the issues that he has with n I

917
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: L on the way that it's being implemented are real.

918
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: I think that's a very real thing that he did that.

919
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the most powerful people in sport.

920
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure you'd agree. I think you'd probably agree with

921
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: me that Jean Smith, the athletic director at Ohio State,

922
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: is one of the most powerful people in the sport.

923
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: And twice in the last two weeks he has said, Hey,

924
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: maybe the college Football Playoff needs to run college football

925
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: here a little bit um. So see, these are two

926
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: of the more more powerful and obviously Greg Sanky I

927
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: think is the most powerful guy in college sports at

928
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 1: the moment, certainly in college football. So it comes back

929
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: to a bigger question. We all can look and say,

930
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: this is the wild West, this is out of control.

931
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: We need some guardrails on this. And by the way,

932
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: I'm all for nil. I'm sure you are. Two kids

933
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: ought to be able to make the most or whatever

934
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: they can offer their name, image and likeness, but we

935
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: all wanted to be at least a level playing field

936
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: for it. So we're all playing under the same rules.

937
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: But Bruce, who's incentivized to do that? Who was incentivized

938
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: to say, hey, these are the new rules, this is

939
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: we're gonna play under. Who's gonna take that leadership? It's

940
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: a great question. There is a definite boyd there, and

941
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: there's definite perspective. I mean, I don't know, I don't

942
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: know if anybody has a realistic ants are on that. Yeah,

943
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of different um agendas here, right,

944
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 1: and everything you said I agree with. I don't know,

945
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: And it's not a cop out, it's just this is

946
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: kind of knowing the landscape. We had an n t

947
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: A head who made millions of dollars for a long

948
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: time who just was kind of I don't know if

949
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: I would say it was asleep at the wheel, but

950
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: it was just kind of negligent. And this thing was

951
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: kind of rolling down the tracks. And the n c

952
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: A is so ill prepared to deal with it right now,

953
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't know, like how how

954
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: they get a better handle on it. I don't either,

955
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: And I see them. I see this thing today about

956
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: how they're gonna, oh, we're gonna impose this on, you know,

957
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: trying to add these rules on namage and likeness, on transfers,

958
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: on on this type of thing, some punishments for coaches.

959
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: The problem is, this is one of the biggest things

960
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: fans don't understand is the incidable doesn't have subpoena power,

961
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: So how are they going to enforce anything, especially when

962
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: they're trying to enforce their rules in and now you've

963
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: gotten the states involved, where these states have their own

964
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: laws that are now in place. The n c double

965
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: A can't supersede that. It's I don't know. It's my

966
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: favorite thing in the world, Bruce. I love college football

967
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: or anything. It's hard for me to find a way

968
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: out of the out of the weeds on this one.

969
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: It just to me there's no easy path, and I

970
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: don't see anybody quite frankly, a lot of people are

971
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: throwing stuff at the wall. I don't see anybody saying,

972
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: all right, this hit, this stuck, let's jump on this. Yeah.

973
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: I mean, And that's why I think you hear so

974
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: much frustration from people on a lot of plate in

975
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: a lot of corners, and a lot of a lot

976
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: of aspects and coaching in general, where it's like there's

977
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,479
Speaker 1: you know, there's really not a middle ground. It's either

978
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: you're going all in or not. I mean, I talked

979
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 1: to a football coach I think on Monday night who

980
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: really vented about how much people talk about tampering like

981
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: it's a big issue. He's like, I think the biggest

982
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 1: issue is agents now have gotten involved in their shopping

983
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: kids around and they're basically going around the school is

984
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: going how much would you pay for so and so

985
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: that kid's not even in the portal, and it's really

986
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: gone on where the you know, they're basically trying to

987
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: create a market. At this point, it's all so such

988
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: uncharted waters with this. Yeah, I get you outing on

989
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: this one. Jordan Addison got you know, there's all this

990
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: And I talked to Ari Wasser and a buddy mine

991
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: about this and we've known forever, and he said, you know,

992
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: the hard thing is, we can't verify anything that's said.

993
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 1: You hear, oh Tennessee gave eight million dollars for a recruit,

994
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: or Jordan Addison got the blitznic Coffin winner from Pick

995
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: got three and a half million from USC. But you

996
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: can't really validate any of this stuff, right, And so

997
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: that's part of it too. And I think to myself,

998
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: it's a true free market. If Jackson Smith Jigbo wanted

999
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: to go on the market or c. J. Stroud Ohio

1000
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: State want to go on the on the free market,

1001
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: and it's a bid process. Nobody wants that. But it

1002
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: does feel like there's no way of stopping it now,

1003
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: doesn't it? No? I don't think so. And look, you

1004
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: know some of the stuff you mentioned, you know, Jackson.

1005
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: I mean, there's it's interesting because you know, I follow

1006
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: a bunch of Ohio State players and just seeing players

1007
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: who are now we're talking about not recruits, we're talking

1008
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: about you know, star players who are getting deals um

1009
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 1: that probably two years ago be like whoa, there's a car.

1010
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know what, these are things that

1011
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: I think are more in line with intended and you

1012
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: know they're not inducements, and if those players are promoting

1013
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: those businesses, you know, more more power to them on that.

1014
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: I think. I don't think that's a bad thing. Um,

1015
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: I just think I don't think it's a bad thing.

1016
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: What I think it is is for a lot of folks,

1017
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: especially if you've been covering the sport or if you

1018
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: paid attention for a long time, we're just kind of

1019
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: like it's hard to wrap your brain around that that

1020
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: it's that it's changed like that so fast, you know.

1021
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: And I so I think there's some there's I think

1022
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: a lot of really good things that are coming from

1023
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: n I l there's just a lot of other stuff

1024
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: that you're like not sure how to feel about it

1025
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: yet because it's so different. Yeah, And I think even

1026
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: the coaches feel that sometimes, Like I even think some

1027
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: of that is with Jimbo here, Like usually when a

1028
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: coach would say something like this about you, you'd be

1029
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: ultra defensive. They have the history as you chronicle it,

1030
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: but honestly, everything they did is now legal, it's all

1031
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: it's all fine, you know, but it's almost like the reaction,

1032
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: because you've been programmed forever, is to lash out back.

1033
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: And again there's personal stuff, and I ask you to

1034
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: read Bruce's Peace and the athletic um, but that there's

1035
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: a lot of layers to this. You guys have done

1036
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: an excellent job, Bruce. Thanks for fitness in on short time.

1037
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 1: Really appreciate it. I appreciate it. Thanks guys for being

1038
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: patient with me getting over to you. All good, all good.

1039
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 1: That's Bruce Felmon. The athletic a very very complicated issue,

1040
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: but that's a pretty good handle. You don't know where

1041
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: it is, why it is where it is. I've been

1042
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: around college football twenty years at the highest level. Bruce

1043
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: has been covered longer than that at the highest level.

1044
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: I ask him point blank, who's going to fix it?

1045
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: And I don't not act like I don't know the

1046
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: answers either, and he doesn't have them. That's where it is,

1047
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: which is a hard thing to wrap your head around

1048
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: when you think about where college where college sports is

1049
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: at the moment. We'll get your PGA Championship leaderboard coming

1050
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,959
Speaker 1: up next. Also our friends at Good Morning Football having

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Speaker 1: leader heading into it. You got a leaderboard for us

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Speaker 1: getting yeah, working through it right now. A lot of

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Speaker 1: the top guys finally getting going here. Uh, justin Thomas

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Speaker 1: has officially wrapped up. He is at six under. The

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Speaker 1: leader in the clubhouse. Now Rory hasn't even teed off yet.

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Speaker 1: We're still twenty two minutes away from him teeing off.

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Speaker 1: Uh zala Torus doesn't tee off until too Um. There's

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Speaker 1: a number of guys. There's four guys. Fitzpatrick, Pereira, Coucher

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Speaker 1: and Answer are three under. Two of those guys are

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Speaker 1: on the course right now. Nieman and Kirk are too under. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Kirk just started. Niemans through Shofly is on the first

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Speaker 1: hole right now. He is at two under. So a

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Speaker 1: lot of these guys we are we're still waiting on.

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Speaker 1: I would bet you by the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: Justin Thomas is not a top of the board. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I mean that would be on Rory McElroy imploding. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he'd really have to implode to on top of it.

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Speaker 1: So Tiger doesn't even tief until two thirty six. He's

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Speaker 1: not making it to the weekend, not the way that

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Speaker 1: I mean. There's no way his body's gonna hold up.

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Speaker 1: I could tell right away yesterday that there's no way

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Speaker 1: he was going, you know, any more than thirty six.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not going to do it. Um, so we

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Speaker 1: keep you updated that as it goes along. So on

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Speaker 1: Good Morning Football, Jane Slater in this week, Michael Robinson,

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Speaker 1: Peter Schreagor, and Kyle Brandt got into something we've talked

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Speaker 1: about a lot, and that is the idea and not

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Speaker 1: the idea of the fact that there is no contract extension.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to see that someone else is starting to

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Speaker 1: pick up that this doesn't make any sense, that this

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Speaker 1: isn't done. We've been talking about this since the combine.

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Speaker 1: It's still not done. Everybody talks about his mom's agent. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we all know that, but why isn't it done. What's

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Speaker 1: the problem here? It's been known. Here's the Good Morning

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Speaker 1: Football crew discussing it. I'm very concerned. I'm very concerned

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Speaker 1: that Lamar Jackson has not signed that big time contract.

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Speaker 1: He's due for a big pay raise. Again, you mentioned

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Speaker 1: him er m v P. You look at his quarterback record.

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Speaker 1: He's thirty seven twelve and oh so uh he wins

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Speaker 1: when he when when he does play, the guy averages

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Speaker 1: nine hundred over almost a thousand yards rushing a season. Again,

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Speaker 1: you saw him body last year when guys got hurt

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Speaker 1: when everything had to fall on Lamar Jackson. He was

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Speaker 1: the team's leading rusher, he was the team's quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: he got injured. Right, and again, that's what that's the

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Speaker 1: issue about Lamar Jackson's play. Right, he could get injured,

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Speaker 1: and we saw that happen this past year. Lamar, get

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Speaker 1: your money. You're worth about forty five, forty six, forty

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Speaker 1: eight million dollars a year. Go ahead and get it,

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Speaker 1: because if you sustained another injury, this is business, guys.

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Speaker 1: You have to play chess, not checkers. A team will

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Speaker 1: move on from never mind me. You know what I like.

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Speaker 1: I like that Lamar doesn't appear to be concerned. I

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Speaker 1: actually find it refreshing. Lamar's out there selling soul food

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Speaker 1: and playing golf and having a great time. Uh. He'll

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Speaker 1: make twenty three million dollars this year on the fifth

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Speaker 1: year and alone. And everything you hear from Baltimore is

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Speaker 1: that it's Lamar is all about work and Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and that stuff will take care of itself and take

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Speaker 1: care of itself. I don't begrudge any athlete he tries

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Speaker 1: to get some money. But if you put this in

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Speaker 1: contrast to some of the nonsense we've seen from Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: and we're scrubbing our social media and we're making these

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Speaker 1: bold proclamations. And if that's all he wants to do it, fine.

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty cool that Lamar's like, I'm confident

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Speaker 1: in myself. I'm an m v P. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: paid this year, I'm gonna get paid eventually. I trust

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Speaker 1: this organization, I trust the team, and I think John

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Speaker 1: Harba loves this guy and it will happen. But Peter,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's different, and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I would do it. But I think it's cool that

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Speaker 1: Lamar is chill on this and he's not He's got

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Speaker 1: other things that in the life that he's worried about. Business, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and talking. You know, they want him back, obviously, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's been anything but a generous offer.

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Speaker 1: I also think that this is actually sort of refreshing

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Speaker 1: in a weird way that Lamar Lamar wants the team,

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Speaker 1: but we're not gonna get contentious. We're not going public.

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Speaker 1: Let's just keep this within our own building and behind

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Speaker 1: closed doors. Lamar's a unicorn and that he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: one of these mega agents you know, if you want

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Speaker 1: to name the names. It's not like Rosenhouse or Todd

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Speaker 1: France or Ari Emmanuel are walking in and saying, this

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Speaker 1: is my client and we're gonna make sure we get

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Speaker 1: the highest dollar. Instead, it seems as though this is

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Speaker 1: Lamar in his own people like we'll take it out

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Speaker 1: our speed and guess what saying with the Shawn Watson

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Speaker 1: just got let me go beat him, let me go

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Speaker 1: take care of business in the a f C. North,

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Speaker 1: let me go win another m v P, and then

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Speaker 1: you guys can give me the world because you have to.

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Speaker 1: He's sort of banking on himself. The last quarterback I

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Speaker 1: remember doing this, it was Joe Flaccos, m M. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't begrudge him for doing it. I'm with Kyle.

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Speaker 1: The only person that really should be concerned here is

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. I'm not personally concerned, but I do think

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Speaker 1: it is frustrating these days that I feel like sometimes

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Speaker 1: the guys that are the good soldiers that do what

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Speaker 1: they're supposed to you don't necessarily get paid. Sometimes it's

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Speaker 1: the squeaky Wills. It's that Kyler Murray's who forced us

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Speaker 1: to have discussions about them and remind executives and mind

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Speaker 1: the fans how great they are. I mean, just go

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Speaker 1: back to his poo game, the way that he played

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Speaker 1: in that one, and I just don't think the Ravens

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Speaker 1: are much of a team without Lamar Jackson, and so uh,

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Speaker 1: I guess my big question is does Lamar want the

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Speaker 1: forty forty five? The Ravens are saying thirty five. But

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Speaker 1: to your point, Peter, I think DeShawn Watson's contract is

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Speaker 1: complicating this for a lot of teams. We'll see how

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Speaker 1: hard some of these teams hold out and say we're

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Speaker 1: not paying you the sort of guaranteed money that we

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Speaker 1: paid to Shawn. But I think it's unfortunate because a

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Speaker 1: guy like Lamar Jackson absolutely deserves his bag. You know,

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Speaker 1: it feels to me like what ends up happening here

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Speaker 1: is if whether it's forty five or forty, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be somewhere, it's gonna start with the four. Uh, it's

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Speaker 1: just gonna be a shorter term deal. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's what you'll see across the league. I think you'll

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01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: see what at the quarterback position, especially is the TV

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01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: dollars continue to go up and up and up, you'll

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Speaker 1: see guys signing for shorter term, big guarantees. So you do.

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Speaker 1: I mean if he gets forty five a year and

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Speaker 1: he wants four year, one eighty to me, that seems

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Speaker 1: where this thing will go. Or you go three at five,

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Speaker 1: whatever you want. Wouldn't that benefit both sides? Like if

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Speaker 1: I'm a player and I don't like my contract and

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Speaker 1: I continue not to like my contract two and three

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01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: years into your contracts like that, just signed for two

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Speaker 1: or three years or go. You know I'm not saying,

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01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, that worked out well for Kirk Cousins. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: When Peter was talking about that, the first thing I thought, well,

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Speaker 1: Cousins did this? Cousins been on himself, be on himself

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Speaker 1: about us. Yeah, you could and bet and made it

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Speaker 1: as much as you can. So I just I don't

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Speaker 1: get like, if you don't like your contracts or you

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Speaker 1: know that in three years your contract is going to

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Speaker 1: be obsolete, then just signed for two or three years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what are you complaining about? That's on you and your agent.

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Speaker 1: Why do you you know the team's gonna try to

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Speaker 1: keep you, They want to keep you for five years.

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Speaker 1: You get a three year deal. This is what I'm

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Speaker 1: looking for Yeah, I I'm I'm less. This will get

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Speaker 1: done one way or another. He'll be quarterbacking them. My

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Speaker 1: hunches will be on a on a It might not

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Speaker 1: be a long term deal though, it might be a

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Speaker 1: medium term deal, and you might see more and more

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Speaker 1: of these if I were a quarterback in this league,

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Speaker 1: the way the television dollars continue to go up and

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Speaker 1: up and up. Knowing also that in this climate, I

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Speaker 1: don't get hit much, I'm protected that I would want

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Speaker 1: to sign a bunch of shorties. The next one to

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Speaker 1: watch on this is going to be Burrow. The Borough

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Speaker 1: conversation is going to be fascinating. The Herbert conversation is

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Speaker 1: going to be fascinating. Those are two organizations historically that

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Speaker 1: have not been big about paying the big bucks the premium.

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Speaker 1: It feels like in Cincinnati they know things are different.

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01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: They understand they kind of unicorn by the Horn and

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, and they'll take full advantage of it, by

1224
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Speaker 1: the way they've spent the last two off seasons. But

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Speaker 1: when it comes time to do that contract, what's it

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Speaker 1: looked like? What's the guaranteed money on that? Is it

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Speaker 1: to forty guaranteed they've never done that. They've never done that,

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Speaker 1: and the man of family doesn't do that with the

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Speaker 1: chargers at all. Well they can, it's are you willing?

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Speaker 1: You know, that's the tricky part um. So those are

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Speaker 1: those are certainly things that bear watching. We spent a

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Speaker 1: lot of time today talking about name of gen likeness.

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Speaker 1: Rich Eisen had some thoughts on it as well. We

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Speaker 1: will play that for you coming up, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: Eisen on his show of course everyone weighing in on

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Speaker 1: the sabing Jimbo spat. That's really a lot more about

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Speaker 1: than just those two. Although there's a history here, is

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Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman laid out in his piece in The Athletic.

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Speaker 1: There certainly is a history there, but it's about much

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Speaker 1: more than that. Where it's headed for is the future

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Speaker 1: of the sport of college football, which by the way,

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01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: is a feeder program for this sport that we all

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Speaker 1: love so much. So here's Eisen on that and where

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Speaker 1: we're all headed. This is my two cents on this.

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Speaker 1: Damos when he said last month in an interview with

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Speaker 1: the ESPN that this whole system is going to have

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Speaker 1: to get blown up? What will it up? And c

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01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: double are gonna blow it up? Blowing it up? They don't,

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Speaker 1: They don't know what the hell they're doing. They were

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01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: caught flat footed by the Supreme Court ruling that basically said, hey,

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Speaker 1: you better get on the stick here because the way

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01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: you've been doing business is potentially um illegal. So the

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Speaker 1: next case that comes here, we might just have to

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01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: have to blow up so called amateurism for you, name,

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01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: image and likeness is here, and it is leveling a

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Speaker 1: playing field, is it not? And if Saban doesn't like that,

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01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: maybe that's why he's saying what he said last night.

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Speaker 1: It could be also a little bit of a message

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01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 1: to those in the room, Hey, everybody, open up your

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01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: check books a little bit more for our collective because

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01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: we're no longer number one. And again, the great equalizer

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01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 1: might be Saban and his ability to coach as well

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01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: that he might with the number two recruiting class. Just

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01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: beat you about the head, neck, face, and chest is well,

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Speaker 1: as we keep eyes peeled. On October eighth of two

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Speaker 1: thousand twenty two, that is when Texas A and M

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01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: visits Tuscaloosa. But what will blow it up is Nick

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01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: Sabing saying this stuff out loud, because now he's got

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Speaker 1: everybody's attention. It's not sliced bread calling it out, it's

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01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: Nick Saban calling it out. This is what will blow

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Speaker 1: it up. And if the n C Double A cannot

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01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: come up with a way to make sure that Buddy

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01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: Garrity and Buddy Garrity's money from Buddy Garranty Dodge doesn't

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01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: wind up in the pocket of some seventeen year old,

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01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: if that is a problem, how do you stop it?

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01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: And part of the reason why it is a problem,

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Speaker 1: as Saban pointed out, is that seventeen year old enticed

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Speaker 1: to come for that amount of money, and then only

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01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: seventeen year old doesn't get the starting job, and then

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Speaker 1: suddenly seventeen year old wants to go into transfer portal.

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01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: And then suddenly seventeen year old says, you promised me

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01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: this money, and now I've got to go transfer out.

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01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: I still want my money as I'm leaving. And now

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01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: there's lawsuit scalore about what was promised and what might

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01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: be legal and what isn't legal, and what's a state

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01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 1: law and what's not a state law, and all sorts

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01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 1: of holy heck has breaking loose and if you want

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01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: to actually put some sort of level playing field out there,

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01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: and you also don't want as you know, coaches, they

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01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: don't want this sort of stofor or athletic departments were

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01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: presumably school presidents. They don't want the unionization that would

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01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 1: have to come if you actually codify this stuff in

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01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 1: a contract, if you turn these players into actual contracted,

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01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 1: paid employees of a school. Everybody says that the letter

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01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,440
Speaker 1: of intent is the contract. Yeah, that's for a scholarship.

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01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 1: If you're talking dollars and cents, actual money, hard earned cash.

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01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: If you have contracts like that, you're gonna have unions.

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01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: And then it's just flat out professional if you want

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01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: to have something that's not that but also a level

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01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 1: playing field. I said it when that super league was

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01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 1: formed over across the pond in the world of professional

1323
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 1: soccer or football as they would say, across the pond

1324
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: in Europe. When that super league was formed and it

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01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: lasted less than Belichick was the head coach of the Jets,

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01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 1: I said, what is the sport? Where in America could

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Speaker 1: that happen? And I said college football? And you already

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01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: heard the Ohio State Athletic Director Jeane Smith say just

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01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 1: this past week something very similar to what I'm about

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01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 1: to say. Get a group of teams and a group

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01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 1: of schools and a group of programs that are kind

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01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 1: of in the same area in terms of level of interest,

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Speaker 1: in terms of money, in terms of conference, in terms

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Speaker 1: of name brand. You put them together in your own

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01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: collective called a super league, and the top teams in

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Speaker 1: the SEC, and the top teams in the Big Ten,

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01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: and the top teams across the country all get together

1338
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 1: and tell everybody else we're out. We're going to enforce

1339
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: our own rules. We're gonna come up with our own

1340
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 1: ideas as to how these players can get paid. And

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01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: everybody else. You could figure it out, because we're not

1342
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 1: waiting for the n C Double A to do it.

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01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: They could schedule us, but we're gonna handle everything else

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01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: in terms of where we play when we play. And

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01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 1: when I say schedule us, I mean for like bowls,

1346
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,759
Speaker 1: everything else, regular season schedule, where the conference games get played.

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01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 1: You already hearing that the ideas of divisions are now gone.

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01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna be top two, just like the Big twelve,

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01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: top two in every conference. It's gonna figure out how

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01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: that's how you play for conference championship, or if you

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01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 1: even need that, if you expand to eight teams or

1352
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: twelve teams or sixteen teams for the right to play

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01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: a playoff. This is the way it's heading. A bunch

1354
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 1: of schools are going to take their own footballs and

1355
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: go play in a league that they create with their

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01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,600
Speaker 1: own rules. And the first team that might lead the

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01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 1: way is the SEC, because Greg Sanky is probably calling

1358
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:27,759
Speaker 1: everybody up and saying, what are you doing? What is happening?

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01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: Why are we calling everybody out? Why is this now

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01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 1: being aired? Why is this all there? What in the

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01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: world is happening? And two, remove yourself from this trough,

1362
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: create your own world. That's the way it's gonna happen.

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01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: It's coming, I don't know when, but the SEC is

1364
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: probably gonna lead the way because they're always doing that.

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01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 1: But when Dabbo soon Swiney says this thing's got to

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01:13:55,520 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: get blown up, well, it's sure sounds and feels like

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01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 1: Nick Saban lit the match. And the thing is they

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01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: joined it. They created a giant super league. Forty teams.

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01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 1: We're all gonna watch, we're all gonna follow, and we're

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01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: gonna get in you know, as much as passionate as

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01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: we are now. And then the question is who gets

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01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 1: to join, because I'm sure someone like Dion is gonna

1373
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: raise his hand and say, hey, why not us? You

1374
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 1: have a tweet from him. I don't even make a million,

1375
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: says coach, because responding to Travis Hunter, I got a million,

1376
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: but my mom's still staying at three bedroom house with

1377
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 1: five kids, says Travis Hunter, the kid in question. That's

1378
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: Dion's response. And I'll tell you this. I have not

1379
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: spoken to Dion yet. I'm sure he's outraged and upset,

1380
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,520
Speaker 1: but deep down, you know what als he's thinking, jack pot,

1381
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 1: jack pot. Let Alabama keep talking about Jackson State. We've

1382
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: got Nick Saban's attention, and not just because I'm doing

1383
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 1: an A Flack commercial with him. Yeah, we've got Nick

1384
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: Saban's attention. We have Texas A and M's attention, and

1385
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 1: you best pay attention because I'm coming. I've bet you.

1386
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: Deep down, Dion, as he's figuring out how to say

1387
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: it and what to go about it, part of him

1388
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 1: is like, you bet, when was the last time Alabama's

1389
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: coach talked about Jackson State? And it wasn't like, Hey,

1390
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 1: that's the team that's coming to play us before we

1391
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: play Auburn because we paid them three million dollars to

1392
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: get their asses handed to him. No, he's talking about

1393
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: them as a peer, and that's got to count for

1394
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 1: something too. You know, I talked a lot. I've talked

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01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: a lot about this, a lot of stuff Whirch you

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01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 1: mentioned there in terms of of of where all this

1397
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 1: thing is had. And the one thing that the SEC

1398
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: has already done this they've already done it. They added

1399
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 1: Oklahoma in Texas, They've already done it. This is the

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01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,480
Speaker 1: thing that people up here of a hard time understanding.

1401
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: The people down there would be fine just playing each

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01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 1: other and calling that the national champion. They I don't

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01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 1: even think that they would want a nonconference. They would

1404
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: play each other. They have sixteen teams in that league.

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01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 1: Now they could say here's the winner of the US

1406
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: and here's the winner of this, and they play for

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01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: this and this is the champion and the rest of

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01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 1: you can kick rocks. And that includes US and people

1409
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 1: at a high state like Ohio State, He like Michigan,

1410
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 1: he like Notre Dame. They don't need you. Not in

1411
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: their mind, they don't. So that's already happening. That's why

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01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 1: I say Sank he's got saying he's he's the second

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01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 1: most powerful, you know, in terms of a singular entity.

1414
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 1: He's more powerful even than Goodell. Goodell answers to owners.

1415
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: Sanky answers really to nobody. He's running the sec SC

1416
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: first in front of their own TV network, first of

1417
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 1: the conference championship game. They were ultra aggressive and adding teams.

1418
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 1: I mean they added two of the six most seven,

1419
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: eight most important brands in the country when nobody saw

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01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: it coming behind closed doors of Texas and Oklahoma. So

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Speaker 1: that's that's where it is. Rumkey Waste Recycling family owned

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Speaker 1: and operated. Whether he joined them as a customers employee,

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Speaker 1: will be part of the family. Is at rumpy dot

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Speaker 1: com to learn more, will do a little higher or lower,

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Speaker 1: Daily on fifty ESPN Cleveland. Certainly a lot of bad

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Speaker 1: advice out there about gambling for secret methods, to picking

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Speaker 1: The mists can lose your money, get you in a

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Speaker 1: lot of trouble, so before you wage or find out

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Speaker 1: what's real and what isn't and keep it fun. Ohio

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Speaker 1: dot Com Time for a little higher or lower presented

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Speaker 1: by the Ohio Lottery. Hello Gibb Hello, how many rides

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Speaker 1: has the girl have been on so far today? You think?

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01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 1: When did you get there? I don't think. I don't

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01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 1: think his crew flew in until late morning, but he

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01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 1: was certainly there when he was calling us. I think

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01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: they had fast passes, so I think they rolled out

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01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: the carpet form. He's with some luminaries. Well the way.

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01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: So there's two passes that you get into the park.

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01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 1: There's that, then the next pass is like the fast pass,

1443
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: Like that's good, but then there's the ultra fast pass

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01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 1: that gets you through everything. So the fast pass you

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01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: can't write everything in the fast pass lay and only

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01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 1: some things. The big one, the big bopper that gets

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01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 1: you into everything. That's a substantial poll. But I almost

1448
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 1: think it's kind of like it's kind of like Ferris

1449
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: Bueller with the Ferrari. If you have the means I

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Speaker 1: highly recommended, that's kind of what I if you It

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01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: should be such a different experience. They can ride every

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Speaker 1: ride and be done by five o'clock and maybe ride

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01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 1: a couple. Yeah, you have the ultra fast you're flying man,

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Speaker 1: especially today on a Friday and may. No one's up

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01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: there right now. The only schools it might be the

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01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 1: only thing. Oh, schools sometimes taking the whole classes up.

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01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: You know. It's just like your kids have been doing

1458
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 1: and my kids have been doing nothing. We're gonna go

1459
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 1: to see your point for the day, that is, everybody

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Speaker 1: be back at the bus at five o'clock. Yeah, that's

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01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 1: a fact. No one's doing anything right now. Field trips

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01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: and sup box races. Hey, they earned it. I think

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Speaker 1: it's the This is the first full year back from COVID. Yeah, educators,

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Speaker 1: you earned a good job. At of you go Live.

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Speaker 1: Higher or Lower presented by the Ohio Lottery. Cody Benjamin,

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports dot Com. I actually printed out your stuff

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Speaker 1: for you that up. Um, this actually came. He took

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Speaker 1: this from Caesar's sports book. They've got their early lines

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Speaker 1: out of wind totals for all thirty two teams, um.

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Speaker 1: And then he listed the nine early moves that he

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Speaker 1: would make based on the over under. So we will

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Speaker 1: debate those uh in this week's Higher or Lower Paulice

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Speaker 1: hid it lower, all right, Bears under he took the

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Speaker 1: under at six and a half higher lower or just right?

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Speaker 1: Bishop Under, wildly under. I think the Bears have a

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Speaker 1: real chance to be the worst team in football. And

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Speaker 1: I love Justin fields him. I think they are the

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01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 1: worst receiver corps in the league. They're not very good

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line. I mean, you remember he got

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Speaker 1: how he got killed here? Oh my god, they were

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Speaker 1: I mean you felt for him his first start. It's like,

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Speaker 1: what are we doing? I felt for him? Um? No, under,

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Speaker 1: I they look like they're staring right down the barrel

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Speaker 1: of four and thirteen, three and fourteen, five and twelve

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Speaker 1: at best six and a half? Are you kidding? No

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Speaker 1: way under Caesar's they want you. They want it next

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01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 1: lower the Colts nine and a half higher, lower or

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01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: just right? He took the over, by the way. So

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Speaker 1: it was reason for this, all right? So this could

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Speaker 1: there could be two things. It can be that I

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Speaker 1: think the Colts are overrated, which I do because I

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01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 1: was talking to somebody this week on some platform that's

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Speaker 1: that that they were there picked to win the a

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Speaker 1: f C. The culture they're pick and I don't see

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Speaker 1: a bold move exactly even for the UM nine and

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01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: a half, though, and he hits on the reason why.

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Speaker 1: In his last line here, he says they should feast

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Speaker 1: on a cake walk schedule out of the a f

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Speaker 1: C South. Yes, yes they should. It's a garbage division.

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Speaker 1: It's garbage. I mean that in the NFC South of

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Speaker 1: the two worst divisions in football, the brutal, and they're

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Speaker 1: the best of the lot. They're the Valle Victorians of

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01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: summer school. But nine and a half, that's ten and seven,

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01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: that's dual. That's real doable, really doable for them. Um,

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01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 1: you know you've gotta worry, I suppose about Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: making a little move with competent coaching in Jacksonville. Don't

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01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: think this supporting cast isn't good enough. Probably true. I

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Speaker 1: mean you're you're banking on Tennessee going down. That one's

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01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 1: a tough one. That one's right on, it's right on

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Speaker 1: the nails their Well, let me see, let's do schedule

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Speaker 1: game with them, and let's just see what we would

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Speaker 1: get it to just off the top of our head.

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Speaker 1: So this is here's the Colts schedule. Um, they add

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan alright, So they open at Tennessee win at

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville win Chiefs at home. L Titans at home, should

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Speaker 1: be a win at Broncos feels like an L Jags

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Speaker 1: at home win at Titans, L Commanders at home win

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Speaker 1: at Patriots. Probably an L at Raiders. Well they'll split those.

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Speaker 1: Let's say that's the win. Eagles at home should be

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Speaker 1: a win. Pittsburgh at home, should be a win at Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: L at Vikings, L Chargers at home feels like an

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Speaker 1: L Giants dub and then text, you would take the

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Speaker 1: last one to get to ten iman nine, it would

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Speaker 1: take the last one to get to ten. So it's

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Speaker 1: a little tighter. I'm gonna go under. Yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go lower because I think I think I gave him

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Speaker 1: like every those first on the road. Yeah, I gave

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Speaker 1: him every divisional game. Yeah, I think you gotta go lower.

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Speaker 1: Next lower, Alright, So he took the under. Caesar says

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Speaker 1: the Browns at nine and a half higher lower, just right?

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Speaker 1: Can't be just right. It's not in that this isn't

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Speaker 1: ever any fun for us to talk about. But the

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Speaker 1: reality is this is entirely tied to the suspension or

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Speaker 1: lack of suspension. Deshaun Watson. With Deshaun Watson suspended eight games,

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Speaker 1: then under if he suspended two games or no games

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Speaker 1: or four, we don always have any idea. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I hope we get some resolution on this. I feel

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Speaker 1: like that number. I don't know how they're putting it

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01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 1: out there, honestly, based on the uncertainty of the suspension.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you are, because I mean, Jacoby

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01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:51,480
Speaker 1: said's a really nice player, but that changes things dramatically.

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01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 1: Our schedules brutal, It's brutal. So I have no idea

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01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do with the suspension or if there

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01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: is one or who knows, um, but I would pull it.

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01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with him saying under he's

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01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 1: he's obviously benching. He's betting on how long we'll be

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Speaker 1: without Watson. Everybody's guess, and I feel like we'd be over.

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Speaker 1: But who knows. This is an amazing one. Eagles nine wins, higher,

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01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: lower or just right. He took the over. He's one

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Speaker 1: of those guys like we were talking about that are

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01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: really just all over Jalen hurts, they're all over it. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't I don't think I

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01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 1: don't see. I don't see nine wins for them. I

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01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,759
Speaker 1: know the division is not great. Dallas feels like the class.

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Speaker 1: You know. I guess they could go ten and seven.

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01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 1: But you're right on the line. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: risky bet. I mean to me, I could see him

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Speaker 1: nine and eight. Again, that gets you the push. You're

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Speaker 1: not going over it. I agree. I think I would

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Speaker 1: go under and we go lower. That's where I'm at

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Speaker 1: on that under next Arizona Cardinals. Nine winds higher or lower.

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Speaker 1: So he goes under on this, he says, in the

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Speaker 1: always tight a f C West, with drama, lurking and quarterback,

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Speaker 1: they could stumble. Um, their last three are pretty brutal. Broncos, Bucks,

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Speaker 1: forty Niners. Uh, they opened Chiefs, Raiders Rams. That's really

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Speaker 1: tough obviously. Um, if they're under them, they gotta fire Kingsbury,

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Speaker 1: they gotta be. They can't if they're under nine. There's

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Speaker 1: no reason for them to be under nine. No, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you got two wins against the Seahawks should be automatic.

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Speaker 1: The forty Niners, whose quarter of his trade lance, which

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01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 1: again I still I don't know what's going on out there.

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Speaker 1: Nobody does, say Pedro he's plugged in our forty niner insider.

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Speaker 1: H all right, if you're taken, if you're going higher,

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Speaker 1: how many winds are they really good? Four? I mean

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Speaker 1: that feels like the ceiling. Yeah, I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: better eleven and six. No, if that schedule is really hard,

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Speaker 1: eleven and six, ten and five. But if you're saying

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Speaker 1: under than you're saying they're gonna go eight nine. If

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Speaker 1: they go eight nine, then Cliff Kingsbury needs to be

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Speaker 1: fired and Kyler Murray might not be your quarterback for

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01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: much longer. Next he's got the Ravens at nine and

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01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:30,600
Speaker 1: a half higher lower? What say you, bo Bishop? The

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01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: hard thing here is like somebody in our division's gotta lose, right,

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01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: we can't all win twelve games, so somebody's got to

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01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 1: be the one that's under um. I think Baltimore bounces

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01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: back pretty good. And again we discussed our situation with

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01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, whatever's gonna happen with the Sean, then you're

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01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 1: what you're saying is Cincinnati gonna fall off? A lot

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01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 1: of people tend to think that they are. I don't.

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01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: I think that they got better on the offensive line,

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01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:57,600
Speaker 1: and I think Burrow is gonna be good, so I

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna be the same. To me, Baltimore feels

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01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 1: like nine and eight, so I would probably go under.

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01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the over just because I think we can.

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01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 1: I think so much. We look at it and we

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Speaker 1: go I mean, what do they do. They had a

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01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 1: good draft, but they lost some of their wide receiver room.

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01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 1: They're getting a lot of guys back off of injury,

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Speaker 1: and if those guys are good enough, I think they're

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Speaker 1: good for ten wins. So just barely barely over next

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01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 1: final one Cowboys ten and a half. He took the

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Speaker 1: under so he likes Philly more than Dallas. I like

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01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 1: Dallas more than Philly, I would like to think, so, yeah,

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01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 1: I like Dallas more. I think I think they got

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01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: another year in them. He has them under ten and

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Speaker 1: a half. The division's garbage. Yeah, win eleven games and

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01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 1: you're clear. I thought it was interesting he took the

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01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 1: over on the Steeler seven and a half. I don't

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01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 1: know what you're thinking. Good, Well, I guess what he's

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01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 1: saying is president, they have never had a losing record

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01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 1: under Tomlin. They have good superstars on defense. I don't

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01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 1: know if they have a good defense. I know that

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01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: the demonstratively better on the offensive line, he said, even

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01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: if Pickett is just okay, they should be comparable to

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Speaker 1: thee But they opened first half of the season. They

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01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 1: get Bengals, Patriots, Brown's, Bills, Buccaneers. Maybe it's just throw

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Speaker 1: Mitchell out there. Probably Mitchell might be the one. They're

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Speaker 1: all right, good job, good job on you. Still so

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Speaker 1: much more to come. You listen to Clean the Brons

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Speaker 1: Daily on ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Browns Daily sp N Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: What a week, kids. Next week we've ut we get

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Speaker 1: some ot as we fire up. Yes, sir, I'll have

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Speaker 1: that to look forward to, which is very very nice.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you that z to no surprise. If

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Speaker 1: anyone is on Twitter right now retweeting things so and

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01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 1: standing in line retweeting, that's what's happening. Way to uh,

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Speaker 1: way to screw over your brotherhood. Way to be president.

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Speaker 1: Nice job, great jobs for that rainstorm. Now, well I'll

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Speaker 1: be back. It's gonna be a hot one, kids. Uh,

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Speaker 1: stay cool if you can, um and make sure you

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Speaker 1: get those your pets, your pets, get them some water.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be a hot one over the next twenty four

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Speaker 1: hours or so have a great weekend everybody. The next

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Speaker 1: level is next Cleveland, ESPN Cleveland, you've been listening to

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