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Speaker 1: Hello, I'm Scott, I'm Evan, Nobi Williams, and I'm Michael Barr.

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Speaker 1: And this is the Bloomberg Business of Sports podcast where

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Speaker 1: we we explore the big money issues in the world

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Speaker 1: of sports today. We begin with a story Scott that

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Speaker 1: is you more more in the sports data world. Genius

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Speaker 1: Sports was sold to a collection of funds that's advised

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Speaker 1: by Apex Partners and Genius is another one of these

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Speaker 1: sports data firms. They supplied data to the gambling houses.

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Speaker 1: They have partnerships with leagues all over the world EPL

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Speaker 1: for instance, Major League Baseball for integrity. The n c

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Speaker 1: a A on a big data deal. Should the n

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Speaker 1: c a A look to make money off it's data,

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Speaker 1: g Evan, You think maybe in the future they'll look

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Speaker 1: at that. I think it's possible. But sport Radar another

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Speaker 1: firm like that. Uh. They had a piece that was

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Speaker 1: sold not long ago, value the company at two point

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Speaker 1: four billion dollars. Uh. They are part owned by Mark

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Speaker 1: Cuban ted Leys. Michael Jordan's this is all about the

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Speaker 1: sports betting bar. The data is extremely important. It's got

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Speaker 1: to be fast and it's got to be accurate, which

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Speaker 1: is sending the value of these companies towards this guy.

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Speaker 1: You know, back in the day you just had a

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Speaker 1: guy who was handicapping the games like old and and

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Speaker 1: now you have all this data, computer data. I worry,

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Speaker 1: are we going to get to the age of a

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Speaker 1: bot is going to make the bet? Yes that we

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Speaker 1: will have answer yes. As you fire up your Commodore

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Speaker 1: sixty four, the answer will be yes. Yeah. So we're mean,

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Speaker 1: we're a couple of months and more than that, three

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Speaker 1: or four months past the Supreme Court decision that lets

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Speaker 1: states legalize sports gambling if they want to. A few

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Speaker 1: states have already done it. We're finally kind of starting

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Speaker 1: to see these huge deals, this big M and A

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Speaker 1: that we knew was coming really starting to happen. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the fan duel Um Patty Power deal. Uh, we're kind

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Speaker 1: of kick things off. But then there was a lull

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Speaker 1: in the past couple of months, as you mentioned, Scott,

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Speaker 1: where a couple of weeks we've had sport Radar that

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Speaker 1: that huge stakes sold. Genius has now sold. MGM has

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Speaker 1: a big deal. Two deals over the weekend, one of

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Speaker 1: which with board Gaming that will let them essentially share

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Speaker 1: each other's licenses and data. Across all the states that

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Speaker 1: they're in. That's fifteen states already. MGM also has a

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Speaker 1: partnership with with g VC, which owns Ladbrooks, which is

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Speaker 1: another one of these mass see that there is we're

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Speaker 1: finally seeing all of this coming together. You can ignore

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Speaker 1: it when we're talking about everything else, but we get

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Speaker 1: on sports betting and the sports listen, listen to under

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Speaker 1: change that. That's right, and they're gonna start down in

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Speaker 1: the a C. They're gonna started up. Yeah, so we are.

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Speaker 1: We're getting fairly close to New Jersey having mobile betting,

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Speaker 1: you know, which would be I mean, we'll be a

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Speaker 1: landmark moment. And then you know, starting early next year

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Speaker 1: at the at the earliest, you know, New York will

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Speaker 1: I think we're kind of just at the point where

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Speaker 1: are now kind of being smart about how they want

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Speaker 1: to partner. You know, this this MGM and Board deal

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Speaker 1: lets them not have to have a casino in every

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Speaker 1: single state because they can sign partnerships to share licenses, etcetera.

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Speaker 1: There's there's a lot going on behind the scenes right now.

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Speaker 1: So what happens to these brick and mortar spots. People

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Speaker 1: still go. You think they go and eat their wings

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Speaker 1: and watch on the TVs for the big events and

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're ever gonna see brick and mortar

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Speaker 1: spots like you see in the UK that are just

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Speaker 1: sports gambling only. But if you have a sports book

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Speaker 1: at a race track, or you have a sports book

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Speaker 1: at a traditional casino, those will remain viable options because

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Speaker 1: you're getting overflow from people who are there for something else.

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Speaker 1: You know, it was a big when I was growing up.

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Speaker 1: Bar you can help me. You're kind of you and

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Speaker 1: I are kind of close, kind of close, I don't say,

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Speaker 1: I mean just you're still out front. Remember those places

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Speaker 1: kids can do that. I'll watch this and it's all

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Speaker 1: like an entertainment complix I mean sports, I mean sports

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Speaker 1: betting parlors can be vending machines, you know, theoretically, if

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Speaker 1: the if the state allows it, or the zoning or

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Speaker 1: more I mean, and and mobile will make it even

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Speaker 1: betting and the other rooting for the next God almighty,

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Speaker 1: Oh the pistons. Why do I bet the pistons? Oh? Man?

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Speaker 1: I I remember that I had a Commodore at sixty four.

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Speaker 1: floppy disc. Man, I used to love those things. I

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Speaker 1: have no doubt. Would you would you bet fastest lap

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Speaker 1: at a NASCAR race? Things like that? You know what

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Speaker 1: I would? I would because Medina remember seventy nine Bubba Rusty.

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Speaker 1: Somebody in people, by the way says we hit NASCAR.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even bring it up. Shout out to Kyle Busch.

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Speaker 1: One at my home track poker no yesterday. Now I

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Speaker 1: couldn't go no, no no, no. Well, by the way, on

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Speaker 1: the air, your son made eagle scout. That's right, That's

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Speaker 1: why congratulations. Yes, I couldn't do that. Now he's officially mcgever.

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Speaker 1: He is too save you with with a closed pin

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Speaker 1: put up a TV rack he bought a little, just

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Speaker 1: he already put up the rack on the wall. I mean, wow,

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Speaker 1: But would he rather be playing Fortnite? Apparently? It does

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Speaker 1: fall far from me? And happy first anniversary to Fortnite

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Speaker 1: by the way, No good, okay, moving right along? Uh,

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Speaker 1: this one way more serious. A bunch of MLB players

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Speaker 1: in those old tweets come back to haunt you. If

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Speaker 1: what's the old Hermit words theory, don't press send, and

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Speaker 1: that's what happens. You send something out crazy and then

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Speaker 1: it comes back to bite you. Seven eight years later,

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Speaker 1: I still don't get this. I know there are some

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Speaker 1: companies that do this. If any of these players have agents,

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Speaker 1: they should be fired. Now. I don't understand how you

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Speaker 1: don't immediately in this day and age, look back at

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Speaker 1: your clients social media and scrub and wipe and just

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Speaker 1: get rid of anything that shouldn't be there, doesn't excuse it.

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the business implications that you're there

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Speaker 1: to protect these guys. If you looked, you just need

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Speaker 1: to get rid of it. Yeah, it's it's a kind

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Speaker 1: of a remarkable the past couple of days, Michael, you're

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Speaker 1: referring to Sean Nucom who was in the middle of

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Speaker 1: of his. Should happen first, right, it should have happened

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Speaker 1: just once. And with Josh Hayter, who's pitching in the

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Speaker 1: All Star Game, when when? When when people dug his up?

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Speaker 1: And from what I understand, Trey Turner, who's an infielder

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Speaker 1: Seawan Newcom's history, and they were just looking for somebody

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Speaker 1: in his past. They looked around and they founded in

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Speaker 1: Trey Turner. This is I mean, I assume we're on

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Speaker 1: the same page that this is large it's a good

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Speaker 1: thing to have these conversations, right. It's stupid for players

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Speaker 1: not to have deleted this. But if you are someone,

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Speaker 1: regardless of how old you are, if you're tweeting gay slurs,

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Speaker 1: good thing society wise, I think to have very public,

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Speaker 1: But I don't really don't get the excuse of well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was just you know, I was young

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Speaker 1: and open. We were all young and stupid. I mean,

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Speaker 1: check my Facebook, go check my Twitter, go check whatever

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Speaker 1: you want. Fight and you were this. I just still

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Speaker 1: don't get. I mean, I feel confident in myself that

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Speaker 1: for people to download. I mean, I'm sure there's things,

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Speaker 1: unfortunately bad that I would be I'm not proud of.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately a different person fortunately from It's very hard to

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Speaker 1: get the drawings off the cave wall. You could find

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Speaker 1: old a O L messenger conversations. Go find Medina. You're

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Speaker 1: now the detective. Go find for Bloomberg News sports business reporter. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's when Josh Allen went through that. It

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Speaker 1: by the way, we have, we have the three question tests.

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Speaker 1: Evan and I talked about. It's number one. Does this

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Speaker 1: question two? Does this need to be said right now?

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Speaker 1: same way that that that for me, I'm thirty years

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Speaker 1: old right now, it was a well insto messenger, you know,

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Speaker 1: as well. And it's stupid of them to not realize

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Speaker 1: that this is both a public forum and a message board.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of people when you're growing up nowadays

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Speaker 1: communicate between each other and less so as a public platform.

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Speaker 1: And one are these stories I remember which player was out,

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Speaker 1: but some from LW Branding, one of the executives that

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Speaker 1: it's our top priority to go and look and find

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Speaker 1: and sweep. You know, when you just told your age,

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Speaker 1: it really hit home. You were born by the time

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Speaker 1: that I was screwing up my first marriage. That's how

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Speaker 1: old I am. I love how R knows this timeline

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Speaker 1: by my dada, you're not married yet, you believe it,

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Speaker 1: you'll start tracking everything by your marriage. You're on your way,

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Speaker 1: so that the h and now onto it. This is

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Speaker 1: even more serious. Been the one of the previous we

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Speaker 1: talked about very seriously. It really is this. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with the Mariners. They have acknowledged there have been harassment

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Speaker 1: allegations against an executive, which goes into Bo Boban the

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Speaker 1: This is now, this is what I don't understand. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's one thing to be young and stupid and send

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