WEBVTT - A Galaxy Far, Far Away Goes Anime in Star Wars: Visions 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:04.600 Spoilers are a path to the dark side. Spiders lead 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:09.039 to anger. Anger lead to eat, he leads to suffering. 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:13.680 I sent many spoilers in this podcast from our galaxy 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:14.360 far far. 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:16.759 Away in the series Star Wars Visions on Disney Plus, 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:17.720 so beware of that. 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:29.840 Also what if. Hello. 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:32.760 Welcome to episode four of x ray Vision, the cricket 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:35.880 podcast where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.279 and pop culture and more. Today we are covering the 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:43.080 first three unbelievable episodes of the new anthology series Star 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:49.920 Wars Visions on Disney Plus, Disgraceful Plus news recaps, and 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:52.960 of course, the endgame. But first, let's welcome back to 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:56.320 the show one of our co hosts, Cody Ziggler Zig. 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:57.080 How are you, sir? 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:59.920 I am thriving. It was a great topic to talk about. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.400 I'm currently on hiatus from my writing shows, so I 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.240 have been speeding through all the Star Wars movies in 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:07.440 chronological orders, so this is a perfect episode for me. 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.039 I'm glad to come back for marrying my love of 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.240 anime and my love of the Lightsabers and Star Wars. 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.280 I can't wait to talk about all of that. 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:18.720 Zake, of course, as a podcaster, writer of both comics 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.640 and TV, including Rick and Wardy, The up Becoming She Hulk. 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:28.640 Let's get into it. 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:32.120 In today's previously on, Let's start with the shocking adaptation 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:37.600 of a Marvel property, Hit Monkey, dropping November seventeenth on Hulu. 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:38.640 Ten years ago. 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:43.080 When I read the Hit Monkey, if you told me 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.280 that it one day would be a property that would 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:48.800 be adapted, I'd be like, what if you told me 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.240 two days ago that it would have been a property 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.360 that somebody plucked out of the Marvel canon too adapt 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:59.560 I'd be like, what. Hit Monkey follows the adventures of 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:03.680 a jap these snow monkey and Macaque voiced by Fred 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.480 Tatoski or assisted by the ghosts of an American assassin 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:11.400 named Price voiced by Jason sidikis, also starring George Takai 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.920 as shiny Olivia Munn as a Kiko. 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.280 Sci Fi War describes the series. It's this. 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.000 Hit Monkey was originally one of four Marvel shows greenlit 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:25.639 at Hulu, alongside Modoc Howard, The Duck Tiger and dazzlart Men. 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:30.280 What a Slate Folks dropped the strain from that particular 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:33.480 pitch meeting where all that stuff got green lit because 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:34.120 I want it. 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.280 Hater, it couldn't be done. Hater said they couldn't make 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.200 a show about a hitman monkey. But now it's here. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:41.840 I love to hear it. What a perfect time to 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:43.960 be a comic book nerd. I can't believe, like you said, 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.440 like when I read Deadpool versus Hit Monkey or whatever, 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.360 like fifteen years ago, I never would have pinged that 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.160 one as the one that they get the show, And 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.240 now I'm completely stoked for it. And the animation looks 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.359 dope as fuck too, Like the trailer looked like like, 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:56.360 oh wow, this is like an action like an action 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:58.160 animated show. I can't wait for it. 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:02.640 Now, everything but mo Doc obviously, and hit Monkey got axed. 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:08.160 But here we are Hit Monkey. The trailer is out. 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:08.800 I am. 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.679 I still can't believe we live in a world the 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:19.040 flex is unprecedent Number one. Cool that they're using Hulu 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:24.520 as like the place where you can see people get decapitated. 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:25.720 And stuff, like in a Marvel property. 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.560 It's gonna be like they're more adult, kind of more reverent, 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.080 non cannon world where you're going to see this stuff. 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.960 But still, I can't believe that this happened I have 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.360 not checked in on Hit Monkey or dead Pool versus 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:43.040 Hit Monkey in twelve fifteen years. 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:44.960 Whatever it is, Well, who has really? I mean who? 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:46.520 Yes? 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:48.880 Yeah, I mean as you're saying, like I do like 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:50.880 the idea that Hulu is like the Marvel Nights or 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.240 the Marvel Max line right, like, no, we have Like 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.160 you know, Disney Plus is pretty obviously they don't. Really 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:58.760 they really sort of stick like the PG thirteen but 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:00.360 really PG for most of their stuf. So it is 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.000 nice getting it out that we can see these like 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:07.320 more eccentric characters go on more eccentric and centric adventures 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:09.000 and stuff, and also show a little bit of blood, 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.360 show him do get his arm mipped off, show a monkey, 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.080 air the clip out like, I'm all for it. 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:15.280 So for those of you who are like, what the 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.479 fuck is hit Monkey? What is it about? Just off 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:23.320 remembering going through the foggy archives of my brain from 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.720 a decade plus ago. Hit Monkey is a Japanese snowmacac 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:32.320 who comes into contact with a dying assassin who like 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.880 was ambushed or something, and he wanders into like the mountains, 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.479 comes across this tribe of monkeys, who then take care 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:46.040 of this assassin but then hit Monkey disagrees with this, 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:50.640 but like learns assassining from this assassin, and then much 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:55.280 like John Wick or like the Frank Castle backstory, hit 0:04:55.360 --> 0:05:00.680 Monkey gains these skills of assassining. But then the assassins 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:04.200 that tried to kill the Hitman come to the mountains, 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:08.120 they kill his whole tribe of monkeys, and so now 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.920 hit Monkey, bent on revenge, goes and eventually kills them 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:12.919 and has these adventurers. 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:14.239 He dresses in a nice suit. 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:15.440 Yeah, that's what It's important. 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:15.560 Part. 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:17.400 He has like a little monkey textedo that he walks 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:18.200 around the world in. 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:19.520 Like where does this open? 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:20.040 Now? 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:25.279 I does that comport with your memories of Hit Monkey 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:25.880 the series? 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:26.360 Yeah? 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.839 I mean my introduction to hit Monkey was through Deadpool. 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:30.599 I think there was a run or there was like 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.960 maybe a one off series called Deadpool Versus Hit Monkey 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:35.880 where Deadpool just getsh to act to whip by this 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:36.800 little monkey. 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:37.960 From four issues. 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.480 I was like, okay, like sign me up, because, like 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.080 I mean, I'm a huge Deadpool stand like he's one 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.280 of my favorite characters. Like when he's getting fucking his 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.719 ass waxed by a little monkey taxito, I was like, 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:49.400 all right, this is a character I need to follow 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:51.400 like that that tracks for me from what I remember 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:52.760 reading a decade and a half ago. 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:53.960 So wild. 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.240 So I'm excited for this, I will say. Let me 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.920 just I feel the need to say this. Okay, it's 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:04.080 been a tough time for Asian people just getting murdered 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:05.679 by hit men who are angry. 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.919 That isn't happened a lot. So hopefully this is done. 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.200 It'll in a tasteful way. 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:15.080 And I get it, like he'd hit Monkey is also 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:18.919 is Asian. That said we can do more than just 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.919 be bodies that get dropped. That said, I'm excited for 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:22.560 hit Monkey. 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:23.400 Yeah I was. 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.120 I watched Kate recently on Netflix and like like, man, 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.480 this this white lady just hurting everyone's feeling into Japan. 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.680 This seems kind of crazy, like this is this is wild, 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.680 Like she's taking it out. Yeah, kuza like this. I mean, 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.120 I mean, okay, maybe that's me. She's a trained assassin, 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:36.360 but yeah, I was like, oh this is a wow. 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:38.640 They just she's got bought, he's got numbers over here. 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:43.040 She was running up the score. Mary Elizabeth, a fan. Yeah, 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.840 but I had to turn the movie off. Let's talk 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:50.240 about what if. Episode six What if kill Monger rescued 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:55.440 Tony Stark uh in which Eric Stevens, otherwise known as 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.520 Killmonger in the in like the depths of his run 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:05.880 of Mongering kills, rescues Tony Stark from the Ten Rings 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:10.280 attack in Afghanistan, goes on to become his buddy, basically 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:14.240 blows up Obadiah Stains spot as Obadiah's in the midst 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:18.239 of trying to betray Tony Stark, gets Tony's trust, gets 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:22.200 a bunch of vibranium, and long story short, ends up 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:26.480 taking over Wakanda. This was it feels like this is 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:30.080 going to lead directly into the episodes that are that 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:36.160 are coming or some other second part episode, because more 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.840 than any of the other episodes, this one felt like 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:40.920 there is a sequel somewhere. 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.760 Yeah, yeah, this one, This one in Marble Zombies felt 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:46.600 the most like, oh, this is setting up for either 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:48.800 there's a two part or later in this season, or like, 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:50.800 I don't if they get another season, maybe they're going 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:51.040 to do. 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.880 The things we'll just have like sequels stitched in that. 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.760 But like so, I came into this having just seen 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.000 Black Panther aut the Hollywood Bowl where they have like 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:00.960 the live orchestra and stuff, like I was already like 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:02.640 I was completely prepped for it. 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.320 I think this would have been if there's a second part. 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:06.080 M hmm. 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.760 There's parts of this that were my favorite episode. 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.480 First of all, Killmonger, I think is I would argue 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:14.680 at this point maybe the best villain in the Marvel 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:19.800 Yeah cinematic universe canon, because what is the saying, like, uh, 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.520 if the villain has a point, that's probably a good villain. Yeah, 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.200 Like I don't know who has a better point than 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:26.000 Eric Stevens. 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.320 Yeah, like not even my Hotep friends, like all my 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.960 black friends. When when when Black Panther dropped, Like yo, 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:33.920 Killmuk was talking that talk right now. I mean he 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.040 went about it and maybe not the best matter, but 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:37.800 like he speaking of truth to power right now. Like 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.679 I'm kind of rooting for him and like even for this, 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:43.280 Like you know, Thanos is such a big character, Like 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:44.960 it's hard to like wrap your head around the idea 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.520 of like someone will sixteen, which half the fucking universe. 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.280 Like yeah, like when you get to trillions, like you 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.360 can't even comprehend that number when it's like yo, yeah 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.240 you don't pay me what you owe like I can 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.000 make to that, like I can won it percent relate 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:56.040 to the kil Munger. 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.200 I think that's why that villain sticks around so so much. 0:08:58.400 --> 0:08:59.960 I completely agree. 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.360 You know, it's like to your point of I might 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:08.600 disagree with the methodology. You know, kill Monger is like, hey, 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.439 y'all owe us, and the world is like, okay, well 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:16.120 let's figure out let's figure out a payment plan. It's 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.640 gonna be a multi step process. It'll probably take like 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:22.040 half a century to maybe a century to like actually 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.280 work it all out. We'll spend the first thirty years 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:28.679 to fifty years just like discussing whether or not we 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:29.680 actually owe anything. 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:31.680 And kill Mongers like, just now, forget all that. 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.040 I'm not trying to skip that Twitter discourse. Let's get 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:35.720 right to it, b Let's get right to it. 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:40.440 That part is what makes him so absolutely compelling. I 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.720 will say, I love this entire episode. I have one note. 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:47.960 My one small note is Michael B. Jordan needed to 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:51.960 go harder in the Pain on the Waconda. Like I 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.480 don't know if you like, if they missed it, like 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.120 if they like clearly like Michael B's a busy guy. 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:00.640 They probably only had him for a very limit did time. 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:04.400 But when he recorded that line, it was like someone 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.160 was sleeping in the next room doing it on like 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.600 the Apple Voice memo or something, because he was just 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:11.400 like whatever it was. 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:13.560 It's like he was about to step into like his 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:15.120 uber black to go to the airport. He's like, you know, 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.760 when I gotta knock this ad R request un forever? Alright, 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:18.880 great check. 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.040 You know, like when you put it, when you put 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.360 it in the back of your neck and pretend that 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.560 you're screaming like a fake falsetto or something. 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.640 It's like, man, he was walking out of the video 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:31.400 booth and yelling it into the mic as he was 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.920 like leaving, leaving the session over. 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.800 Man, Yeah, I needed that a little stronger. I'm excited. 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:40.160 Of course, this is gonna. 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:44.440 Come out the day that the next episode of What 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:47.400 If is coming out, which has been teased to include 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:52.200 thor that we can let's what are you expecting for 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.920 the end of the season of What If? 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.000 You know, it's it's such a it's such a mixed bag, 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.160 and that being a good thing as far as, like 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.560 you know, these are mostly standalone episodes so far. I 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:07.199 really do hope that they sort of start wrapping, tying 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.600 things into other stuff that's happened, because it's like, you know, 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.120 and the Doctor Strange episode, like that's the first time 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:16.199 that we acknowledge that they, like people can interact with 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.280 the Watcher at least people that are like that have 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:21.160 cosmic scenes, cosmic you know, intuition or whatever. So like 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.600 I'm hoping that at the home point that you know, 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.360 the Watcher gets brought in and like has something that 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.640 as affects the universe, like he needs to break his code. 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:29.920 Like that's always the thing with the Watcher, Like you 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:31.760 wait for him, You're wanting, You're waiting for him to 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.040 break his code, and like I'm curious to see if 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:35.840 that happens or what that thing is. Like I'm wondering 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:37.960 if they're gonna tie in King to it all, Like 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:39.559 what's the King of it? Since that's the person that 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:43.000 sort of kickstarted all this whole, all this whole multiverse conversation. 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:44.840 So like I'm hoping that it becomes a little bit 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:46.760 more canonical and also that we see some like we 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:47.960 have a more active. 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.640 Watcher like he was in the Doctor Strange episode. 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:52.040 Yeah, I agree. 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:55.120 I think that I said this on last week's episode 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.280 with Rosie, but he I think that we're going to 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.880 see the Watcher break his code obviously. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:01.040 I think that that is going to. 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:05.040 Take the form of him being like the cosmic Nick Fury, 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:09.920 assembling the Guardians of the of the Multiverse. Obviously they 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:14.200 don't know about each other. So the Watcher is gonna 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:18.640 be like, Okay, the multiverse. You know, I'm out of 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:19.080 a job. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.280 If the multiverse goes, there's nothing to watch. 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.960 Therefore, I'm gonna have to put all of y'all in 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:29.160 contact with with each other. Like I know this Hero, 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:33.480 I know this corrupted Strange. I also know this kill 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.240 Monger who is bad but maybe you could use him. 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.400 I also know this T'halla who is star Lord like. 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.000 And then he's gonna start plucking people from these various 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.600 multi I know this Captain Carter, and he's gonna start 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.520 putting them in contexts with each other, and that will 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.560 be the finale in which they take on you know, 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:52.480 Infinite Ultron. 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.000 Yeah, that is my theory. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:57.199 That's a solid theory. I'm with that. When I want 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:58.160 to read it, I want to watch it. 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.280 Let's get into Star Wars. 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.320 You've been guided by the four since you were. 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.720 Born at last, the moment arise. 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:31.680 We're back today. 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.560 We're stepping out of the airlock and into the Star 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.600 Wars universe has never seen before. In the new anime 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:40.920 inspired Yes you can say inspired, I mean it's just anime, 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:45.880 straight up an anthology series Star Wars Visions. We're gonna 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:50.480 be covering the first three episodes, The Duel, Tattooine Rhapsody, 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:56.600 and the Twins. These are man all very very different, 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.040 and all very very cool. Let's start with the Duel 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:03.160 by Kamakazi Duga. In a remote village, a mysterious Ronan 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.960 duels a Sith bandit leader while droves of armed bandits 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:10.800 attempt to pellision plunder a town. Ultimately, it becomes clear 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:14.200 that our wandering Ronan is also maybe a failed Sith 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.880 or just a Jedi who didn't go through with his training. 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:22.520 Whatever the case may be, the duel is exciting and 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:24.720 ends with the death. 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:26.240 Of the bandit leader. 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:30.840 The Ronan is voiced by Brian t Sith bandit leader 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:35.160 by Lucy Lou and the village chief by Jaden Waldman. 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:40.840 Directed by Taknubu Mizuno. Just totally cool. 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:44.680 There's gonna be a standalone novel based on this. It's 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.200 great that they started with this one because it is 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:52.120 the one that makes the most obvious nod to the 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:56.960 original Japanese cinema influences on Star Wars the films of 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:01.440 Kurosawa's kind of like black and white, rainy texture. 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:03.840 What did you think of this episode? 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:05.480 I'm gonna saying this a lot for every episode, by 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.960 this exact shit that I wanted, Like like you're saying, 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.480 like you know, it's like it's very much like you know, 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.680 it's it's seven Samurai, It's the hidd and Forth. It's 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:14.600 like you know, it's it's a classic. It's a classic 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.680 Samurai chan bar or Western. We're like, oh, a drifter 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:20.680 comes into town and they have to see them from 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.240 the bandits, And like I also love a running thing 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:24.440 that's throughout these episodes. 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.760 Is that the idea of like the gray Jedi or like. 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.520 The Gray Sith, And like, yeah, I also love that 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.200 they finally completely married, Like yeah, the Gatanas are just 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.280 like sabers, like they keep them in hilts for whatever reason, 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.600 and like whenever my boy draws out his sword to 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.360 like get into that first dance, like I'm with it, 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:40.080 Like I also love that they have the callbacks like 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.800 other like I love like the little Suboba guys driving 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.440 like the little little droid racer, Like I love that 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.320 the uh they do with the mini gun's like that, 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.680 you know, the assassination robot, Like I loved all that shit. 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:52.640 I less all love that, you know, just the the 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:54.520 the art direction as far as like the bandits like 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.680 all like they had like the Stormtroopers maths that all 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:58.720 like sort of held together with like you know, duct 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.520 tape and spit Like it's a perfect introduction like to 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.200 what this status caol that this series is trying to 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:05.760 stay as far as like we're gonna go in a 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:07.120 gay so that's far for away and we call it 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.360 the space. We can have like fetal Japan planet, we 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:11.400 can have, you know, Miyazaki world, we can have like 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:12.040 Robot a. 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:13.160 Extro boy planet. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.160 Like it's the perfect worked episode to like get you 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.120 primed for this world and what you're gonna be watching. 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.400 Yeah, this is exactly what I wanted and it was 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:23.200 the perfect way to open it. The vibe when the 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:27.440 Sith Bandit leader arrives, so the village guards the chief 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.480 of the village as a child flips the script on 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.360 the bandits who have rounded up the villagers out come 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.960 the hired mercenaries that guard the town, and it's like, 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.120 as you said, like one of them is like a 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:43.200 bounty hunter droid with a huge minigun. Another is like 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:49.080 a bosque like trandosan with like two huge swords. Another 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.800 one is like the Imperial spy drone from Empire. 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:56.520 S breaks back with like Samurai swords and they just 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:57.960 like wipe out these bandits. 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:01.360 And then the Sith leader come out of her ship, 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:07.480 surveys the destruction and just says very quietly disgraceful. 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:08.800 And then. 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:11.760 And then the music kicks. 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:17.200 It like look whenever the boss comes out and they say, 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.320 they say one word like mediocre, like someone's asked is 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.479 about to get fucking whipped, And like she pulls out 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.919 that she has like her like special lightsaber umbrella that 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:26.880 like has like eight different spindles. 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.160 I'm like, yo, yes, sign me the f up boy. 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:30.880 This is this is exactly the ship that I want. 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:36.119 Yes, it was just so so cool, you know. 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:37.720 I just like I said, I just rewatched all the 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.119 Star Wars movies, like seeing that sort of take on, 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.520 like the Anakin Obi Wan fight on, like the lava, 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.720 like Mustafari on, like the log going down the river, 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:47.359 and like. 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:49.000 It was. 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:49.639 It was. 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.360 It was such such a fun like re like reimagining 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.159 of what we we all the notes that we're used 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:56.040 to seeing in these movies. 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.320 I agree, And I found myself thinking about the like 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:03.600 globalisation of like pop culture influences and how you know, 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:07.560 it must have been weird and disorienting, but also exciting 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:11.399 to be like a Japanese person watching Star Wars and 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.880 picking out all these influences and seeing how they were 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:15.720 mashed together when you you know, when you saw the 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:21.359 first Star Wars trilogy, similarly to watch these two and 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.920 you know, speaking about the duel right now by Kama 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:27.919 Koza Yuga, and see the way all the Star Wars 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:32.520 influences are just thrown together in a way that is 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:38.160 very it's very purposeful, but it's also like not bound 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:41.360 by the quote unquote rules that would happen like if 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.320 it like if if this was an adaptation done by 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.160 a Western studio or an American studio, they'd be like, well, 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:50.760 you can't do this because yeah, where is this planet 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:54.720 even and this character was not around, and like how 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.240 would they have gotten a forget that. Let's just throw 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:01.320 all this shit together and it's cool. Yeah, I love that. 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:04.520 There's like an into the energy of that is so 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:08.080 fun because I honestly like the childhood energy of Star 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:09.800 Wars to me is just being like, oh my god, 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.520 what is that is that? Who is that person that 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:15.320 was in the background for two seconds? Yeah, it's like 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.760 what is that like? And this captures that because it's 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:23.000 like it's just like all these little details that you 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:24.800 want to know more about everything. 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:26.720 Yeah, well it's like you know, Boba fav was like, Oh, 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:28.879 that's the dude the cool helmet that says nothing in 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.440 the Second Empire strikes Back and like and even Musk 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:32.920 like he just you see his toes and you see 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:34.920 his face, like that's all that he does in those movies. 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:36.639 But you're like, oh, this dude looks cool, Like I 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:38.199 want to I want to do this, and like I 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.240 think that Another cool thing, as you're mentioning, is like 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.159 the idea of like, since this is going to like 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:45.320 Japanese studios, which are like obviously influence these movies, it's 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:48.399 like they're being distilled down and reinterpreted by the people 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.240 in culture that originally influenced. It's like they're able to 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.320 have those those like those tropes and cliches like and 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:56.159 not even cliches in a bad way, but it being 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:57.720 like they can they can like really hammer those home. 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:00.119 Like when Lucy Lou pulls out her lightsaber and the 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.040 dude catches it with his hands with this force. I 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:04.840 was like, that's my shit, Like that, that's such a 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.360 classic clean trope in like any like you know, Samurai 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:09.760 anime or it's just Semai movies in general, and like 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:11.880 seeing that applied through the Force and like just seeing 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:14.159 that like little tweak reinterpretation and how they apply it 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:16.320 to Star Wars was like such a ret of fresh. 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.320 Air about the standalone novel It's gonna be written by 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:24.119 Emma Mikocandon. It arrives October twelve, spans the story of 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.359 the sith Ronin. According to Star Wars dot Com, James Wah, 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:31.440 the VP of Franchise Content and Strategy, says quote, out 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:33.840 of all the shorts, the dual felt most rife for 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.240 an ongoing story in a novel. The team at comic 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:38.800 because Douga, We're very generous and obliging our interest in 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.560 continuing the storytelling had a ton of ideas to lend 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.919 in the creative process. The author Emma says, quote, I 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:48.280 love that Visions as a whole is a grand recursive experiment, 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:50.680 a fairy tale of a fairy tale, a myth built 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:54.159 upon modern mythology. It makes the most sense in terms 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.600 of it's the most disconnected from other stuff. The other 0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:02.280 episodes take place like in particular worlds that you will recognize, 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:05.000 So this is it's the perfect. 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:06.399 One to kind of like stretch their legs on. 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.480 Yeah, it screams like side story, and that's what I think. 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:12.520 That's that's a big offering that this particular episode, or 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:15.240 even though like this micro universe can can really expand. 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:19.959 On next Tattooine Rhapsody by Studio Coloredo toin Engine, a 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:23.120 former Jedi Padawan becomes the singer of an aspiring rock 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:28.440 band very subtly carries his microphone slash lightsaber like got 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:30.760 his belt just like as it there. The band's name 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:33.960 is Star Waiver, and they ultimately come into conflict with 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:37.240 Job of the Hut and Boba Fett because a member 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:40.800 of their band is Jaba's son. 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:43.000 And Jaba wants him back. 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:47.840 The cast is Jay played by Joseph Gordon Levitt, Geezer 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:51.680 played by Bibby Mornihan Boba Fett, Timora Morrison K three p. 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:56.760 Forty four as Shelby Young, and lan Mark Thompson. This 0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.560 was super fun. This is the one where you're like, 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:02.080 if you start to think about where and when this 0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:06.800 possibly could have taken place in Clone Wars, You're introduced 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:09.040 to Java Son Jaba Son as a child. At that point, 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:11.480 it's not clear that it's it's not the same person. 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:14.360 This is like completely different. This takes place on tattooine 0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:19.639 like in the pod racing arena. Yeah, super fun, like 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:21.080 music based. 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:25.159 It's the most like anime of it all as far 0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:27.200 as like we're gonna have a bunch of fun. It's 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:29.320 gonna be a slice of life music anime and like 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:32.040 we're gonna just we're just gonna map Star Wars over it. 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:35.119 Like I love that Geezer is like his dirt bag 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:38.480 son that has like he has like hair transplants and 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:41.360 like a noseby he plays space bass. 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:46.159 Yes in his garage garage man, Like, I mean this 0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:50.000 is perfect because like one of the music in Star Wars. 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:51.840 Bands in Star Wars. 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:57.800 Is such a under explored part of the in world 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:02.600 reality like obviously that that you know, there is the 0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:07.760 band on Java's barge, there is the band in the canteena. 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:11.520 There is like music all around, but this is the 0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:15.359 first time we ever really explored it in a way 0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:18.960 that like centers it. And just like you know, in 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:21.480 the world of Star Wars, other than the animation stuff 0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:24.320 like just from the movies, you don't get you don't 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.400 very often other than the music, get a sense of 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:32.359 like culture, popular culture, what people talk about, like what 0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:35.719 people go and do as like entertainment other than pod racing, 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:39.400 and like these little snippets of like a musical adventure. 0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:41.080 That's why I love this. 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.240 The idea that there's like this band that's like on 0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:46.280 the on the rise out here in the galaxy is 0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:46.879 so fun. 0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:48.960 Yeah, I mean that's when you say that because we 0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:51.240 get those snippets of like people like going to bars, 0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:53.399 going to canteenas, they like doing death sticks. But like 0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:54.919 that's really all that we have as far as like 0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:57.080 what people do when they're not like in war. 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:00.480 Yeah, it is like it's a such of fun. 0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:02.200 Like this is the one that I also want to 0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:03.640 seek a sequel too, Like I just want to see 0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:06.119 that world blown out because like it's such a fun 0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:08.399 niche thing that could only happen in this universe. Like 0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:09.639 you're saying, like, yeah, what are the what are the 0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:11.639 dudes that play the space flutes do in the Containa man? 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:12.760 Like what are the influences? 0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:14.640 Like what are there like Miles Davids that got them 0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:17.080 into like playing space jazz? Like I want to see, 0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:19.000 like I want to see like the Space strokes, Like 0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:20.040 what are these guys turned into? 0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:20.280 You know? 0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:22.000 Yeah, I love that. 0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:26.639 I love that Jay's pitch to Jabas Like, hey, how 0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:29.240 about you become our our first sponsor? 0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:30.359 What about that? 0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:32.200 Yeah? 0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:35.280 What a perfect Like you know, us wars are so heavy, 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:37.520 like you know, good and bad must come together and 0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:38.960 face each other blues. And this was like, you know, 0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:41.320 we need money for a new Space fan. We would 0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:43.359 love if you didn't kill our bass player and we 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:44.879 can make you a lot of money in the end. 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.040 I mean, look at this, like we filled the pod 0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:47.720 racing stadium. 0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.280 People are going fucking ape shit Java, Like do you 0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:53.760 want a part of this? Also, don't pretend that I 0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:56.280 didn't see your tail tapping to the beat. 0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:59.480 Yeah, my guy, Yeah, yeah, I felt it. Yeah, yeah, 0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:01.840 we the slap's job and we see you slapping with it. 0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:04.400 B better we get Kendrick on the track Game over 0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:06.080 Space Kendrick, I. 0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:08.920 Would say, my one My one note is like maybe 0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.800 we should have brought in a pitch singer for Joe. 0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:16.240 My guy was like a full step and a half 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:20.880 flat for the entire versus chorus. 0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:23.440 I got to feel that versus chorus, and I. 0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.760 Didn't feel it quite as much as I needed to, 0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:27.960 but still it was super fun. 0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:29.000 He committed to it. 0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:32.200 He committed, admitted, committed, and he also committed like this 0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:35.239 little my favorite like anime notes, like the like all 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:36.320 that ye shuff like. 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:39.480 He went hard, like he went hard in the way 0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:40.520 Michael b needed. 0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:40.840 To go hard. 0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:42.240 Say what kind of forever? 0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:48.240 Yeah, because he like screamed the screen really really really fun. 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:48.520 One. 0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.800 If people are feeling these first two animes, what would 0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:55.120 you say, are like the comps to like go out and. 0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:56.399 Oh boy and watch? 0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.399 Yeah, I mean the first one definitely, I mean this 0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.160 is live actually, but Yo Jimbo, like that's obviously seven Samurai, 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:06.080 but like anime wise, I'd say basilisk, it's a fun 0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:10.399 like Samurai anime it's like a ninju scroll like. Those 0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:12.720 are two ones I think are very fun. Cops that 0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:14.520 are think oh and sort of the Stranger Like, those 0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:17.359 are three that I think really compliment to compliment this 0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:19.840 as far as like Tattooed Rhapsody is funny because I 0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:22.440 don't watch that much like musical anime, but like there's 0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:24.400 like a nice like slice of life. Like I think 0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:27.320 if you like just google any like modern comedy anime, 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:30.879 like that'll be a fun one to jump into. Any 0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:34.040 like anything that's like that looks bright and happy and weird. 0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.159 It has like weird like character proportions, like you're going 0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:37.399 to be into it, And I think that will be 0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:39.520 a perfect compliment for Tattooed Rhapsody. 0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:46.160 Next up is The Twins, a really really fun episode 0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:50.879 that really explores like the duality of the force through 0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:53.359 twins twins Bread and Groom to harness the power of 0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:57.280 the dark side. Guess what one of them decides that 0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:00.280 they don't necessarily want to do that anymore, then you 0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:04.080 get a fight. The cast is care was by Neil 0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:10.120 Patrick Harris, I'm Alison Brie and B twenty n Jonathan Lippbow, 0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:15.400 directed by Hiroyuki Imaishi. Justin Leitch, CEO of Cubic Pictures, 0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.479 said at the Anime Light Expo of the Twins quote 0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:21.560 subverts the idea of Luke and Lea and imagines a 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.440 brand new set of twins born into the dark Side 0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:26.520 and how far the brother will go to save his sister. 0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:33.600 Finally we saw a humanoid general, grievous, multi armed, Yes, 0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:35.760 Sith with lightsabers. 0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:36.760 That's all I want. 0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:39.400 Yeah, I love my dark side wife. Who I can 0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:40.600 save her? I can fix her. 0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:44.919 Uh, she's problematic, but she just give me time with her. 0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:47.160 Yeah, she's my problematic fave. We'll get a couple of therapy, 0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:47.600 will fix here. 0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.479 Us speaking like coming off that the Joseph Gordon Levitt 0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.800 going for it, Alison Bree, you fucking went for it 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:54.800 in this as well, went for it hard like she was. 0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:55.439 She went hard the. 0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.719 Motherfucking paint I think, I mean, this is the this 0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:01.040 is of the ones that we were today, Like this 0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:04.479 is the one that is the most like bombastic anime 0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:06.600 like that could only that could think things that could 0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.320 only transpire in animation. That lends itself to this, Like 0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:12.119 I just took jump straight to it, like my dude 0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.159 making a hyper lightsaber out of a special crystal and 0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.440 then jumping in front of an X wing and going 0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:20.959 through hyper speed to like cut a star story in half. 0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:22.480 Is the most hype shit I've ever seen. 0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:24.640 And also ship that could only get away with by 0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:27.320 Studio Trigger, the production company that made this, when like 0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:31.520 that's their bag, Like they do bombastic, hype ass hyperkinetic 0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:34.159 animation and they completely get away with it. Now, if 0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:36.680 I'm asking myself, why does the droid have a space 0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:37.000 suit on? 0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:38.840 At the end, I didn't even care. I was like, yeah, 0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:40.800 I chalcol I chalk it them to the force. 0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:44.040 I mean, why does like Cara have an X wing 0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:45.200 like on an imperial ship? 0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.880 None of it, It doesn't it doesn't matter, don't worry 0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:50.960 about it. It's interesting because when I was I spent 0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:55.000 all weekends just like reading histories of anime and there's 0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:59.000 some really good economic papers about you know, just like 0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:03.520 the movement of pop culture in the twenty first century, 0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:08.640 and how anime is an example of a market that 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:10.959 was the spread here in the United States is an 0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:14.520 example of a market that was purely fan driven. Like 0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:17.440 everybody who tried to make this happen on a popular 0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:22.560 on it from an actual professional corporate level failed. 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:23.040 In numerous ways. 0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:27.880 Either the Japanese studios couldn't find a partner that would 0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.719 honor their material, that wouldn't just like cut it up 0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:34.800 and dub like wild shit over it, or they couldn't 0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:39.840 find a distributor who understand what they were about. Similarly, meanwhile, 0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.959 the fans were just like, send these tapes over, we 0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:46.280 will translate them on our own, and we will disperse 0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:49.360 them on our own, and we will do that because 0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:54.400 nobody is feeding this market. Literally, nobody else is doing this, 0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:57.360 and it is super fascinating. And one of the things 0:29:57.400 --> 0:30:02.400 that was driving this was that, to your point, there 0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.320 was a level of bomb bast that was just not 0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:09.080 seen in American slash western animation, which is. 0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:10.480 Primarily for kids. 0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:13.680 Like in Japan, the tradition is the manga tradition is 0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:15.840 this is popular storytelling for everyone. 0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:17.440 Like you see adults reading this. 0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.800 Similarly with anime, there is no like age cutoff for 0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.800 this shit like adult themes, incredible violence, like if you 0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:25.920 want to know, you know, what's a short cut to 0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:33.560 like universal storytelling, stylized violence, incredibly stylized violence in which 0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:37.920 like like ships containing a million people get blown up 0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:38.880 or cutted half. 0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:41.200 You know that that is the shit you will see 0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:41.640 in anime. 0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:45.240 And that was the thing that really hooked people in 0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.480 the late seventies and eighties because they were like, oh 0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:48.840 my god, what the hell is this? 0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.720 I've never seen anything like this. Yeah, and that was 0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:52.880 what The Twins felt. 0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:55.640 Like to me, yeah percent, because I was thinking of that, like, 0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.240 you know, we would had like gi Jo's and Transformers, 0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:00.520 which were like, yes, nothing really happen. It's like, you know, 0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:02.680 there's no stakes to like what you're watching, Like there's 0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:05.440 like a roadblock. I'm assuming that a character named rod 0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.320 Block that sounds like a wrecker like whatever, Yeah, Roadblock's 0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:10.040 not get gets leg blown off in episode one and 0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.200 then have it not be their episode two. Like they're 0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.440 just no stakes. But for this is like one is 0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:16.960 like you also like everything is dialed up to fucking 0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:19.560 twenty five, so like the emotions are super heightened, like 0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:21.880 the like it's just like also it compacts everything down, 0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.120 like you get the Lea in Luke story and like 0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:26.200 was it like fifteen minutes? Like you get all that 0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:28.520 compacted really to one sequence in like a fifteen minute. 0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.440 Things like alreadily like you're you're fucking speeding through this 0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.160 a one hundred miles per hours, like you're on edge, 0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:34.400 and like you want to see how it plays out 0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:36.440 because also the animation is so kinetic. 0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:38.080 En diowed up to twenty five. 0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:39.719 Yeah, to your points. 0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:43.440 As a fan of Gi Joe as a kid, it 0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.600 used to annoy me so much that every time Gi 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.960 Joe and Cobra would get in like some scuffle since 0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.480 you know, a big set piece battle. Yeah, at the 0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:55.600 end of every episode, may be blowing up each other's jets, 0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.880 big explosion as the jet gets shot down. You know, 0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:01.480 the pilot wait a jet and you see the parachute 0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:03.960 and they like gently drift to the ground. To let 0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.480 all those kids watching at home, don't worry nobody. 0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:08.400 This is a huge. 0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:14.560 Battle between two multinational security forces. Uh and like a 0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:18.840 wild high tech terrorist outfit. But actually nobody died in 0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:21.120 any of these battles. Don't worry about it. 0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:22.280 Yeah. 0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:25.000 So you know I had anime COVID into my life 0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:26.240 at that time, I would have been like. 0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:27.880 Yes, yeah, you would have been scarred there. 0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:29.480 I remember the first time I but the first AIME 0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:32.280 I ever watched was the show called Robotech and like 0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:33.840 there was a there was a show that was serialized 0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:35.880 and like one of the main characters bites it like 0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:37.400 episode eight, I'm like, wait a minute, is he going 0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:40.080 to be here like next episode like no, he bleeds 0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:41.960 to death in his hospital bits like he's gone. I 0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:43.800 was like, oh wow, I'm not used to this. I'm 0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:47.360 used to like Optimus Prime coming back the next Saturday 0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:47.880 or whatever. 0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.760 I mean, Like, you know, for for me, one of 0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:57.560 the most scarring moments in Childhood Animation is Optimus Prime dying. 0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.800 I was like, what how can you do this? How 0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:01.440 dare you? 0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:02.320 Yeah? 0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:02.760 You know. 0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:08.080 Meanwhile, in in anime, people are dying, getting there, getting 0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.320 cut in half like all the time. 0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:10.800 And it mattered. 0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:11.920 Yeah, they don't. 0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:14.000 Also, they don't get graceful deaths, like they get fucking 0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.360 murked by someone that they loved, you know, they get 0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:17.960 killed in the phone booth and you're like, oh wow, 0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:19.520 no dignity in this death. 0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:24.040 Uh So when you watch Robotech, were you watching the 0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:27.760 original Japanese Robotech or you know, watching the dubbed version. 0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:29.400 Or I watched I was watching the Harmony gold dubs, 0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:31.840 So like I'm a tunami stand like that's what that 0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:33.440 fucking changed the game for me. I was like twelve 0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:35.479 or thirteen, and like that was the first like anime 0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:37.120 I ever saw. I was like, oh wow, this is 0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:38.800 one Like it had robots. 0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:39.479 I love robots. 0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:40.920 But also it was the first show that I be 0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.640 cognitiant of being like, oh, this is serialized, Like what 0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:46.200 happens in episode one is going to affect episode twenty seven, 0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:48.160 which is going to affect episode thirty two or whatever, 0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:50.960 and like having those stakes happen. Also having like characters 0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:52.880 that you attached to and then having them die was like, 0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:55.000 oh wow, this is like this is this is real, 0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:56.720 Like I've never seen that type of stuff and like 0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:59.160 that's what fucking unlocked the gate to like the nerdom 0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.840 that I currently find myself yelling about anime Star Wars 0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:03.880 right now, one big snowball baby. 0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.840 So, of these three, which is your favorite? And why? 0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:08.640 Man? 0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.520 It's the dual Tattooing Rhapsody and the Twins. 0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:15.960 I you know, I think aesthetically I think aesthetically distilled 0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.920 down the duel is what for me is like what 0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:20.799 I think Star Wars is when it comes to like 0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:24.520 the influences, the action, the the subtle stuff as far 0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:27.160 as like you know, good bad and even having the 0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:29.600 idea of like the gray like this. Also the Twins 0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:31.799 covers the idea of like someone turning to the light, 0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:33.960 like I love all that. Also it's in and out, 0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:35.839 like you get a taste of like these worlds can 0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:37.239 be whatever they want to, Like you said, we can 0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.480 have feudal planet, we can have you know, we can 0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:41.480 have rock garage, rock planet. 0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:43.120 Like the Dual hits all that stuff. 0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:44.920 And also you see all the love letters like your 0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:47.960 Jimbo seven Samurai, Yeah, all those things is still down that. 0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:49.960 I think the Duel just like really captures like it's 0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.080 what It's the perfect pilot for what you need right 0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:53.120 off the gate for this series. 0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:55.680 Yeah, that was my favorite one as well, I think. 0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:59.080 Then followed by the Twins. 0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:00.319 You know, the Duel. 0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:04.239 There is something perfect and circular about like closing that 0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:11.799 loop and like uh acknowledging original influence of Kurosawa's pictures 0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:17.399 on Star Wars, you know, famously Hidden Fortress. You know, 0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:21.279 Lucas openly took a bunch of plot points from that 0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:24.960 movie and used it to build up the early drafts 0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:26.880 of Star Wars. Like at one point, the character that 0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:31.560 became Darth Vader, was named General Akira. You know, there's 0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:33.440 a bunch of stuff in there, and so acknowledging that 0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:38.400 was super cool. And then just the textures and feel 0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:44.120 of it, like taking animation, putting that like dirty film, 0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:48.440 black and white, gray film, grain, but then having the 0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:52.040 lightsabers have these pops of color, the laser beams be 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:54.400 these pops with blasters, be these pops of color. 0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:57.600 The explosion on his wrist. 0:35:57.560 --> 0:35:59.879 Like yeah, to call his to call his R two. 0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:06.840 The way that it took like the archetypical essential story 0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.960 beats of a Star Wars story, right, the battle between 0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:16.200 good and evil. These lived in high tech, futuristic worlds 0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:19.040 where you can imagine people just like working and going 0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:24.520 about their day, incredible duel droids like all that shit 0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:27.920 together in basically like under thirteen minutes. 0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:31.560 I think it was just it was the perfect introduction. 0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:33.680 And I think, you know, for me who is not 0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:37.000 as versed an anime, there is so much Star Wars 0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:40.040 there and it's so upfront with its influences that it 0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:44.719 just you feel like it's like a great syllabus to 0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:46.200 be like, I want to dive in further. 0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:47.120 How do I get there. 0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.279 Yeah, it's a great like cultural bridge. We're like, all right, 0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:51.319 this is we're going to bring fans over to anime. 0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:53.239 We're gona bing anime fans over to Star Wars and 0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:55.359 like we can all have them populate and find some 0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:59.040 more gems in both of those those mediums of storytelling. 0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:03.400 People wanted to get into some of these The studios 0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:08.480 that created these Kamakazi Duga Studio, Trigger, Twin Engine, do 0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.560 you have like a some movies that they should check 0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:12.160 out or some. 0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:16.640 Yeah, Studio Trigger Studio Trigger is one of the best 0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:18.960 in the game. Like what what you saw for the 0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.200 Twins is a great encapsulation of like their style when 0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:24.359 it comes to like character design and like action and 0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:27.440 like also humor. I highly recommend Kill a Kill that 0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:29.720 was probably like one of the most well known first series. 0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:31.560 I think it's on Netflix. All the seedents are on 0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:34.080 there or Hulu, one of the two. And also feeling 0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:36.360 for like a feature that they did pro Mayor I 0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:38.640 think p R O M A R E. That's on 0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:45.880 I believe Amazon. It's a It's a fantastic, fantastic feature 0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:50.200 with like some amazing animation, uh and some crazy character designs. 0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:53.080 That's also like that their style. If you notice, like 0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:55.000 they don't do a lot of like borders for their stuff, 0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:56.759 Like they'll have like outlines for characters, but a lot 0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:58.759 of their like background is just like the paint. 0:37:58.760 --> 0:37:59.040 That's it. 0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:00.560 You don't get any like bard R and stuff like. 0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:03.320 That's a really cool film to see that through it 0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:05.080 like a whole future. I highly recommend both of those. 0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:07.600 This has been so fun. 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:09.560 I can't wait to have you back so we can 0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:13.360 talk about the rest of the season. Up next, I 0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:32.759 crack open the Omnibus. Welcome to another chapter in the 0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:36.520 Omnibus where Laura, analysis and understanding come together. Today we 0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:39.239 explore the life and work of director at Kira Kurosawa, 0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:43.920 his influence on Star Wars and the globalization of anime, 0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:47.320 which set the stage for Star Wars Visions, a series 0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:50.160 that we are watching and talking about today. It makes 0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:52.400 sense in all of this to start with The Hidden 0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:56.359 Fortress director Akira kurosawa is nineteen fifty eight classic about 0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:59.040 a mismatched pair of commoners who bumble their way into 0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:01.560 a mission to rescue Wolf Princess from. 0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.080 The upheaval of a civil war. 0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.320 Is the most famous example of the influence of Japanese 0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:09.480 culture on Star Wars. Whenever the film comes up in conversation, 0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:15.880 someone will mention, hey, George Lucas was inspired by that 0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:18.920 to make Star Wars. Indeed, George Lucas's early scripts for 0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:22.640 a New Hope hewed so closely to Fortresses that, according 0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:26.000 to John Baxter and George Lucas a biography, the director 0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.839 briefly considered purchasing the film's remake rights. 0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:29.400 Quote. 0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.319 Hidden Fortress was an influence on Star Wars right from 0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:35.520 the very beginning, Lucas says in JW. Rinsler's The Making 0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:36.320 of Star Wars. 0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:39.759 Fortress is known as a Jedi jecki, a genre of 0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:43.799 action adventure usually set during Japan's Edo period, which is 0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:46.880 thought to be the phonic source of the word Jedi. 0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:49.560 In the first draft of Star Wars, the villain who 0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:52.719 became Darth Vader is named Akira Obi Wan Kenobi would 0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:54.840 have hit different if the actor playing him was the 0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:59.080 Hidden Fortresses star and frequent Kurosawa collaborator to Shira Mafuni 0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:03.440 and Lucas explore the possibility of casting Maffuni before settling 0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:06.279 on Alec Guinness, and of course, the Jedi themselves are 0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:11.120 essentially space Samurai Akira Kurosawa casts a death star size 0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:15.640 shadow over American popular culture and international cinema nineteen fifties. 0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:18.560 Raschaman won the Golden Lion at the Venice Film Festival 0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:22.440 and launched Kurosaw at a global acclaim. The movie occupies 0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:26.640 an interesting cultural space. On the one hand, it's only 0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:30.160 been officially remade once nineteen sixty four is The Outrage 0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:33.240 starring Paul Newman. On the other hand, since its release, 0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:36.920 every story which has come out, every movie in which 0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:40.520 a single event is examined from multiple points of view 0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:45.160 owes something to Raschiman. Rachaman has since become a synonym 0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:49.160 for the subjective nature of reality and the punchline for 0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:53.280 a very very funny joke on The Simpsons. Basically, Marge 0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:57.000 is like, you liked Rashaman, and then Homer is like, no, 0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:00.720 I didn't, and then they remember this one situation very differently. 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:04.360 Cursawa's nineteen sixty one film Yo Jimbo and its sequel 0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:09.440 Sinjuro introduced the trope of the mysterious protagonist, later popularised 0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:13.319 by Clint Eastwood's character in Sergeio Leoni's A Fistful of 0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:16.280 Dollars trilogy. The Man with No Name would later influence 0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:20.200 Logan's look and vibe in Frank Miller's four issue Wolverine 0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:24.680 limited series. Another major influence on Star Wars Cursawa's nineteen 0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:28.400 fifty four masterpiece The Seven Samurai is credited with creating 0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:32.000 the team of specialists on a mission trope, which spawned 0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:34.920 any number of movies and stories. 0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:35.320 That you can imagine. 0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:39.840 The Fast and the Furious, Marvels, The Avengers, The Ocean's Eleven, 0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:42.480 The Remake, and almost every heist movie of the last 0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:43.200 sixty years. 0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:44.000 The Town. 0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:47.799 Akira Kurosawa was born in Tokyo in ninety ten to 0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:50.880 a family descended from Samurai. The youngest of eight children, 0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:53.279 Akira wanted to be a painter. His father, however, a 0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:57.560 former military officer and physical education teacher, encouraged him towards 0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:01.040 the cinema, which was just then emerging in Japan. In 0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:05.240 nineteen thirty five, Kurosawa answered an advertisement from PCL Studios 0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:08.080 and was hired on as an assistant director the next year. 0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:11.279 During this time, Japan was reaching the culmination of a 0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:16.520 decades long program of rapid modernization in the late eighteen sixties, 0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:20.480 Japan was a fractious collection of feuding states with a 0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:25.719 weak military a pre modern agrarian economy hamstrung by extortionate 0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:28.600 trade treaties forced on the country by Europe and the 0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:32.120 United States. Fast forward in nineteen twelve, and Japan has 0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:36.200 a strong central bureaucracy governing the country, which enjoyed a 0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:40.320 burgeoning industrial based a highly educated population zipped around the 0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:43.719 country in a modern railway system. Once preyed upon by 0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:47.840 colonial powers, Japan, behind its modern army and navy, had 0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:52.080 itself become a colonizer after prying the Korean Peninsula away 0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:55.640 from China in eighteen ninety five. The lasting effects of 0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:58.880 that continued to this day. When Russia, one of the 0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:01.400 so called great powers of the era, began encroaching on 0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:04.920 Japan's Korean holdings. Japan in nineteen oh four launched a 0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:08.359 surprise attack on the Tsar's fleet, sparking the Russo Japanese War. 0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:12.960 Japan's defeat of Russia, it's fair to say, shocked the 0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:16.319 world and elevated Japan to a first world power. And 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:21.560 it is really hard to fathom from a American perspective 0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:26.439 what the effect of this rapid tectonic change had on 0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:30.600 Japan and its culture. In the Asian influence on Hollywood 0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:34.120 action films, Barnard William Donovan writes of this period, quote, 0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:38.160 Japanese society, founded on centuries of reverence for tradition and 0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:41.760 a very powerful sense of cultural identity, would now begin 0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:45.560 to struggle with the question of how modernization, industrial development, 0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:48.279 foreign contact, and the need to attain the status of 0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:51.759 a global power could at the same time remain compatible 0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:56.840 with their insular, traditional japaneseeness. Krisawa's career as a director 0:43:56.880 --> 0:44:00.560 took place during and immediately after World War Two. Under 0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:04.960 Japan's wartime censorship regime, films were, as Leonard Epp describes 0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:09.720 in The Oxonian Review quote anti western and preferred representations 0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:14.400 of devoted and unindividuated workers who were subordinate at least 0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:17.319 to a social goal, if not also to received and 0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:21.200 semi feudalistic notion of an authentic Japan, which was under 0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:25.480 attack from Western influences end quote. During the American occupation, 0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:28.759 the Americans put in their own censorship regime, and in 0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:31.920 addition to managing what American and European movies could be 0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:35.800 shown in Japan. During this time, Alfred Hitchcock's Lifeboat, for instance, 0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:38.600 was denied because it depicted a Nazi captain briefly in 0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:42.160 control of the fate of the lifeboat's passengers. Nineteen forty five, 0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.520 As of Metal for Benny was not allowed to be 0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:47.480 shown due to the film celebration of the protagonist's killing 0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:50.720 of numerous Japanese soldiers during wartime, probably a good idea, 0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:56.080 the bureaucracy demanded that domestically produced films break with Japan's 0:44:56.120 --> 0:45:00.759 feudal past and should criticize Japan's wartime actions a cure. 0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:03.560 Kurosawa's nineteen forty five film They Who Tread On the 0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:06.319 Tiger's Trail was denied release because it was set in 0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:10.960 twelfth century feudal Japan and promoted Japanese feudal values. It 0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:13.720 was released later in nineteen fifty two after the Treaty 0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:17.920 of San Francisco, which reinstated peaceful relations between Japan and 0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:20.920 the United States and ended the American occupation. But by then, 0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:25.879 of course, Rashaman had won Kurrosawa international recognition and set 0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:29.560 his career on a path towards the most rarefied levels 0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:32.680 of influence, respect and a claim that an artist can reach. 0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:37.640 It is ironic, then, that Kurasawa's reputation in his home 0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:42.120 country at the time and now is decidedly mixed. In 0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:45.600 the early nineteen seventies, new wave Japanese directors reacted against 0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:49.919 Kurrosawa's reputation and his perceived cinematic authority rights Leonard Epp 0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:53.320 in The Oxonian Review. They rebelled against what they saw 0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:57.439 as an American style which was overly individualistic and too 0:45:57.520 --> 0:46:00.920 directly influenced by Westerns in the style of John Ford 0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:05.200 end quote. Kurrasawa was always open about his admiration for 0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:09.400 American films and Western literature, and most notably the work 0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:13.960 of director John Ford. This, along with ironically his acclaim 0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:17.000 in the US, was used against Kirosawa by his critics 0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:22.480 and contemporaries, who derided his work as old fashioned, elitist, arrogant, 0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:27.280 and shaped by the biases of a Western audience, pandering 0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:32.399 two American audiences. Essentially, by the nineteen sixties, Kirosawa found 0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:35.080 himself at a step in Japan, but with the standing 0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:39.040 of an auteur in Hollywood. In nineteen sixty six, Twenty 0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:41.239 Century Fox hired him to direct The World War II 0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:45.040 epic to Tora about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. 0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:47.920 After working on the script for two years, Korrosawa was 0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:52.160 either fired or resigned two weeks into shooting. The rumor 0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:56.600 has it that he was too authoritarian with his American actors. 0:46:57.160 --> 0:46:59.319 If that's the case, there was surely some kind of 0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:05.120 like culture misunderstanding there as well. That said, I think 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:07.640 it's fair to say, if you read anything about Krosawa 0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:11.200 that he was quite imperious with the people he worked with. 0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:13.000 Let's put it that way. I think it's fair to 0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:18.040 call him arrogant. In nineteen seventy Do des Kaden, Krissawa's 0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:21.239 first color film, was savaged by Japanese critics, and it 0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:24.279 later flopped at the box office. Krosawa fell into a 0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:28.160 deep depression and in nineteen seventy one attempted suicide. In 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:31.000 the last decades of his career, the filmmaker would find 0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:36.040 it impossible to finance his projects in Japan. George Lucas, Coppola, 0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:38.879 and Spielberg used their clout with American studios to raise 0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:42.359 funds for Kagamusha in nineteen eighty Ran nineteen eighty five, 0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:46.440 and Dreams in nineteen ninety, writes Barno William Donovan, Kirosawa's 0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:49.600 dip in fortunes was ironically in part of failure to 0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:53.239 react to the rise of television in Japan. Japanese film 0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:57.040 studios never recovered from the shock of television. While younger 0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:59.640 directors adapted to the new age by making cheaper films 0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:02.920 are working for television, Kurrosawa refused. Ian Buruma wrote in 0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:07.240 a nineteen eighty nine article about Kurrosawa, Japanese television's ascent 0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:13.040 was fueled ironically in part by the domestic audience's hunger 0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:18.759 for a new form of entertainment anime. The transnational pathways 0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:22.840 of globalization that led us to Star Wars visions just 0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:26.160 wander off and really really unexpected directions when you dig 0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:31.240 into it. In the nineteen seventies, new consumer products invented 0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:35.239 and mass produced in Japan, notably the Walkman, but in 0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:41.120 particular for our purposes, the Betamax, and most influentially, the VCR, 0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:45.000 the video cassette recorder, made culture portable in a way 0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:49.600 that was simply impossible previously. Americans in Japan, many of 0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:51.880 whom were members of the military based in the country, 0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:56.520 began recording Japanese broadcasts of shows like Ashraboy and Starblazers 0:48:56.560 --> 0:49:00.480 off Japanese television and sent the tapes back to the States. 0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:04.840 In May nineteen seventy seven, several Los Angeles area anime 0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:10.480 enthusiasts founded the Cartoon Fantasy Organization CFO, the first anime 0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:14.680 fan club, and the organization quickly spread. The Cartoon Fantasy 0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:17.240 Organization will meet from ten thirty am to five thirty 0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:20.320 pm today behind the Bank of the Hills on Research. 0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:25.680 Features will include Grandizer, Danguard, Danguard, Ace, Space Ketters, Starvengers, 0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:28.920 Brave Raiding, and Astro Boy. The group meets on the 0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:32.520 second Saturday of each month. End Quote reads an event 0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:36.560 posting in the September twelfth, nineteen eighty one issue of 0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:40.239 the Austin American Statesman. The October twelfth, nineteen eighty four 0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:44.120 edition of the Philadelphia in Choir ran a bemused coverage 0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:47.520 of the Philadelphia chapter of the cfo's second anniversary meet up. 0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:51.520 Quote a little unusual as CFO is, but definitely original. 0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:54.719 While other Philadelphians are cruising Saturday night hotspots trying to 0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:57.839 look like Michael Jackson or Prince, the club's members are 0:49:57.880 --> 0:50:00.720 searching for artistic and creative merit in and science fiction 0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:04.200 shows that the rest of the world might find terribly strange. 0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:08.120 That's nineteen eighty four, folks. A rather good profile of 0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:11.640 the CFO appears in the November nineteenth, nineteen eighty seven 0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:15.200 edition of the Chicago Tribune, which states that the CFO 0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:18.160 at the time had thirty chapters with several thousand members 0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:22.160 in Chicago, Denver, Dallas, Houston, San Francisco, and other cities. 0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:25.360 In a two thousand and four paper, Progress Against the 0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:28.280 Law about the spread of anime in the US, cultural 0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:31.680 globalization and copyright theft, which I'd urge you to read 0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:34.440 if you want a great history of anime up to 0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:38.240 the mid two thousands, MIT Sean Leonard writes that anime 0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:43.879 fan distribution networks quote represented prostalyization commons or spaces where 0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:47.040 media and ideas could be freely exchanged INWD to advance 0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:50.080 a directed cause, which I think is a good description 0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:54.120 of the Internet. In twenty twenty one, an examination of 0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:59.239 Japanese and American popular culture across pollenization reveals these dizzying 0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:03.799 meta textures details that surrounds It's not often clear who 0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:08.319 pollinated whom Up Next? Alisha Lutz joins us for the 0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:24.399 Hive Mind Welcome to the Hive Mind, where we dive 0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:28.120 deeper into a particular topic with the help of a 0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:30.840 guest panelist. On today's episode, Actually Vision is happy to 0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:34.319 welcome writer Alisha Lutz. You can find her most recent 0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.400 article on Vulture, which features an interview with Ted Lasso's 0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:38.120 Phil Dunster. 0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:41.560 Alicia, Welcome, Thank you so much for having me. Jason, 0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:42.280 it's a thrill. 0:51:43.360 --> 0:51:46.279 Let's talk about with the release of Star Wars Visions, 0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:50.960 it's worth unpacking the role that the movies now play 0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:58.360 in the overall firmament of the Star Wars universe. I 0:51:58.360 --> 0:52:01.400 guess we could boil that time down to does it 0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:04.040 matter if the Star Wars movies suck or not? The 0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:07.920 most recent trilogy, I think the general contensus it was disappointing. 0:52:08.400 --> 0:52:12.719 But it feels like with Star Wars Visions, with the Mandalorian, 0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:16.359 with all the various Disney Plus shows that are coming out, 0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:19.720 with Star Wars Rebels, with the finale of Clone Wars, 0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:24.240 it kind of doesn't matter because we have so much stuff. 0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:27.399 Let's talk about it, Alicia, start with you. Does it 0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:29.920 like where do you think what is the role of 0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:34.640 the Star Wars movies now with all this other Star 0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:35.719 Wars content. 0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:38.200 That is out there. Well, you know, it's interesting because 0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:39.279 I think that. 0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:44.799 Lucasfilm and Star Wars thought really big, but they got 0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:48.120 themselves stuck in a trap by sort of repeating old 0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:50.320 patterns and thinking that they're getting. 0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:50.760 It's a trap. 0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:54.600 Sorry, I I know, I thought about not doing it, 0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:58.239 but then I felt everybody listening to this doing it, 0:52:58.320 --> 0:52:59.040 so that I had to do. 0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:02.520 I'm sorry, continue, you know what, It's fair, It's absolutely fair. 0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:07.600 But yeah, no, I think that it's just they set 0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:12.480 themselves up for failure with the most recent trilogy, although 0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:15.400 I am somebody who does like a lot of what 0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:18.400 was being presented in The Last Jedi, even though that 0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:21.920 there's very constructive and valid reasons why some of the 0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:25.120 things in that film didn't work. But what I think 0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:29.040 Ryan Johnson was trying to get at in that was 0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:32.560 that the Force belongs to everyone. And I think that 0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:35.160 we're getting to see that in Star Wars Visions, and 0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:37.399 we're getting to see that in you know, Clone Wars 0:53:37.440 --> 0:53:39.320 and Rebels, and you get to see these other parts 0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:43.440 of the universe that have so many different stories to tell, 0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:49.640 and it's just such a deliciously verdant breeding ground for 0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:52.200 all of the different types of stories that can be 0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:54.240 told in this vast universe. 0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:57.520 Like it's galaxies, it's not just one family just doing 0:53:57.560 --> 0:53:59.520 the thing over and over again, you know. 0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:02.000 Yeah, I think it was Karl Marx who said that 0:54:02.040 --> 0:54:05.359 we must seize the means of producing the kyber crystals 0:54:06.800 --> 0:54:10.719 and socialize the force for everyone. Yeah, I like, you know, 0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:13.480 I feel the same way about the about the the 0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:15.640 most recent trilogy, and that there's like a lot of 0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:18.400 stuff to admire. Honestly, in all the three moves to 0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:20.759 the Last Year is my favorite of those. There was 0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:23.640 good stuff in all of them, but on the whole 0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:27.160 it felt a little bit like movie making Bike Committee. 0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:35.239 Whereas the Mandalorian Rebels and now Star Wars visions there 0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:40.080 is a reason behind them existing and there's something that. 0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:44.239 They are saying, Oh totally, zig, what do you what is? 0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:47.320 What are your thoughts about like where the movies stand 0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:50.040 in the in the current content offerings. 0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:52.640 I mean, both of all are spitting straight facts right now. 0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:56.440 I think that one is having just just telling Jason, 0:54:56.520 --> 0:54:58.960 I had just rewatched all the movies in chronological order, 0:54:59.080 --> 0:55:02.320 because I'm very unimp at the moment. So my my 0:55:02.560 --> 0:55:06.279 big takeaway rewatching the first the Newest trilogies is that 0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:09.120 like there's not a lot of fun in them. Like 0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:10.960 the first like Stars and Star Wars Awakens is like 0:55:11.200 --> 0:55:13.080 the most fun. We're like, oh, we got wacky jokes 0:55:13.080 --> 0:55:15.200 and stuff. But like even watch the original trilogy, like 0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:17.160 it's it's it's like a watching it. I mean, it's 0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:19.560 obviously made for kids, and like that's something that like 0:55:19.600 --> 0:55:21.560 sort of perminates about all of them. But like the 0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:24.240 Newest trilogy where like you know, you're you're you're wristling 0:55:24.239 --> 0:55:26.400 with like the light and dark stuff, which is interesting, 0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:28.960 but like it's also like so heavy, and like the second, 0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:30.600 like the whole third act of like the first one 0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:34.080 is just like so not fun. Like so like there's 0:55:34.120 --> 0:55:36.279 this whole like mystery box stuff, which like you know, 0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:38.040 I'm not a big fan of that in general, Like 0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:39.840 there's no real mystery and the original it's like you 0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:42.759 don't wonder who Luke's parents are, Like you don't care. 0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:43.799 You're like, oh, this is a kid. 0:55:44.040 --> 0:55:45.920 He went, he goes on an adventure, he meets some 0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:47.839 weird people and like that's his thing, Like I don't 0:55:48.000 --> 0:55:49.880 I don't care about how the person got there, and 0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:52.200 like speaking to your point about like you have this 0:55:52.360 --> 0:55:55.279 enormous galaxy, which I think the TV shows really tap into, 0:55:55.320 --> 0:55:56.799 Like you get to see what happens with like the 0:55:56.880 --> 0:55:58.560 squad of like the Bad Troopers, so you can see 0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:00.400 what the Mandalorian does, or you can see like what 0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:02.719 Ahsoka is doing up up to but like this, it 0:56:02.760 --> 0:56:07.839 seems the movies seem so contained because it's just two bloodlines, 0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:10.359 and like the whole thesis for the Last Jedi, which 0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:12.399 I really enjoyed, was that like who gives a shit, 0:56:12.480 --> 0:56:15.280 throw out the good the bad, this like it's about 0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:17.759 starting something over with and like I really enjoyed that, 0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:18.960 and I felt it was a little bit of an 0:56:19.040 --> 0:56:21.239 undercut at the end when like the first the kid 0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:23.040 that we see that gets powers is like another white kid. 0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:24.040 You're like I've seen. 0:56:23.880 --> 0:56:26.319 That movies, Like yeah, it's like there's like a there's 0:56:26.320 --> 0:56:28.239 like a there's like a black kid like right there, 0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:29.600 give it to them, Like there's like a little brown 0:56:29.600 --> 0:56:31.919 girl like give that to them. And like the course 0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:34.279 correction in like the last the last of three was 0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:37.799 just like, yeah, maybe maybe the films could be sort 0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:39.480 of a thing where they make these big tents, they 0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:41.239 set up like more stuff for the world, so like 0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:42.680 it's a big well and they can go back to 0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:44.680 like all right, we need to establish that there's like 0:56:44.800 --> 0:56:47.200 the final order or whatever, like all right, we'll set 0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:48.839 this up in one movie and then like we can 0:56:48.880 --> 0:56:50.920 just have that permeate through like the TV shows if 0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:52.600 they want to go to that and like tap into 0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:55.759 these certain things. Like I think maybe doing standalone is 0:56:55.800 --> 0:56:57.919 the is the maybe the move like where one was great, 0:56:58.040 --> 0:57:01.880 Solo was was fantastic. In my opinion, I think having small, 0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:04.919 self contained stories might be the move going forward because 0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:08.440 also like trilogies are just sort of a going going 0:57:08.480 --> 0:57:10.960 out of the way, like you know, besides mar of 0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:12.160 like I don't know ive trilogies is like. 0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:13.920 The move for like features at this point. 0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:18.760 Story, Yeah, Rogue one is my favorite, and I think 0:57:18.840 --> 0:57:23.880 part of that is because it is a different angle 0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:27.160 on the story that you know, it's filling in one, 0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:29.280 it's answering a story which was like how do they 0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:32.720 get these plans? You know, ever since uh, you know, 0:57:32.880 --> 0:57:35.920 you heard about the spy mission to acquire the plans, 0:57:35.920 --> 0:57:37.520 You're like, oh, how did this happen? So now you 0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:40.640 get that, which was so cool. And also it just 0:57:41.120 --> 0:57:44.480 wasn't based. It is no more Skywalkers, like it wasn't. 0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:48.120 These were like all new people, and you really felt 0:57:48.120 --> 0:57:53.480 it when they died. It's interesting because the fact that 0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:57.480 there that Clone Wars exist, that Rebels exist, kind of 0:57:57.560 --> 0:58:01.840 for me at least softened the blow of the disappointment of, 0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:05.760 you know, the new trilogy. The fact that it wasn't 0:58:06.040 --> 0:58:10.400 that great didn't leave me crushed in the same way 0:58:10.480 --> 0:58:13.880 that the prequels when they when the first. 0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:17.080 You know, when oh the Prequels came out and it 0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:20.120 was like what the fuck was that? 0:58:20.240 --> 0:58:24.000 It really like hurt me because I was like, now 0:58:24.040 --> 0:58:28.840 it's like, it's unclear that novelization stuff is even canon anymore, 0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:31.120 and now this kind of sucked, like what are we 0:58:31.240 --> 0:58:34.280 gonna do? And it wasn't until Clone Wars kind of 0:58:34.320 --> 0:58:38.280 got going years later that all of that stuff got 0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:42.560 recontextualized and became kind of cool. But this makes it, 0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:45.640 This makes it so that not everything hangs on the 0:58:45.680 --> 0:58:47.600 movies just being good. I would I do wonder you 0:58:47.640 --> 0:58:51.840 mentioned Marvel like I wonder if I wonder if they 0:58:52.040 --> 0:58:55.160 they go for a kind of like Marvel architecture in 0:58:55.240 --> 0:58:56.960 that they have these kind of like one shots. 0:58:56.960 --> 0:58:58.120 We're exploring the universe. 0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:01.440 Let's go over here and check out what these rebels 0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:03.920 are doing over here, Let's see what these this spy 0:59:04.000 --> 0:59:06.560 faction is doing over here. Let's just go off and 0:59:06.880 --> 0:59:09.120 check out a weird world. And then, much like the 0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:11.720 Marvel movies, there's some kind of thing that teems them 0:59:11.760 --> 0:59:14.320 all up in a later movie, and then and that 0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:18.080 breaks you out of like this kind of like trilogy architecture, 0:59:18.120 --> 0:59:21.280 which yes, Star Wars kind of like pioneered, but is 0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:24.080 feels like old movie thinking. 0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:27.440 It's so stale now to do sort of like this. 0:59:27.680 --> 0:59:30.840 It's very expected to do a trilogy or a quadrilogy 0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:36.600 or you know, to do these big sort of sequelized stories. 0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:39.760 But I think that because of the just the financial 0:59:39.800 --> 0:59:43.080 pressure on a business standpoint of what it takes to 0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:45.720 make those movies happen, it makes so much. 0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:49.160 More sense to have your sort of. 0:59:50.320 --> 0:59:53.800 Area of exploration and play be on television, be in 0:59:53.840 --> 0:59:57.640 these little stories. And I mean we got to see, 0:59:57.760 --> 1:00:01.919 especially in Visions, just the what happens when you let 1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:06.400 people do what they're good at and really like let 1:00:06.440 --> 1:00:10.200 them just play and have fun and tackle some of 1:00:10.200 --> 1:00:13.600 the themes that Star Wars does so well, but in 1:00:13.680 --> 1:00:17.320 a completely different from a completely different perspective. I think 1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:22.200 it's just it's what it's what this universe needs. 1:00:23.120 --> 1:00:25.280 Yeah, and even the speaking of that, like the cultural 1:00:25.320 --> 1:00:27.320 half life is so much longer when like you're releasing 1:00:27.360 --> 1:00:30.720 an episode every week like YEP eight for two months 1:00:30.720 --> 1:00:32.760 to two and a half months, everyone talked, Everyone talked 1:00:32.760 --> 1:00:33.640 about was baby Yoda. 1:00:33.720 --> 1:00:35.800 That's all that they talked about. I was, I was. 1:00:35.960 --> 1:00:37.919 I was up there with the bill horn yelling about 1:00:37.920 --> 1:00:40.320 how much I would die for this little puppet. It 1:00:40.360 --> 1:00:42.440 was like what the movie comes out, you know, you 1:00:42.520 --> 1:00:46.040 have really two to four weeks of like all right, yo, 1:00:46.160 --> 1:00:47.560 did you see the new Star Wars whatever? 1:00:47.600 --> 1:00:48.600 And then it's like just dead. 1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:51.560 But with having this like recurring thing coming out also, 1:00:51.560 --> 1:00:53.440 you're stacking that so like you'll have Mandela, and you'll 1:00:53.440 --> 1:00:55.400 have the bad Batch, you'll have whatever coming out. Like 1:00:55.400 --> 1:00:57.800 it just stays in the cultural zeitgeist so much longer 1:00:57.840 --> 1:00:59.520 than just a film which comes out and then it's 1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:00.640 gone in less than a month. 1:01:00.680 --> 1:01:02.360 Unless it's like you know, endgame or whatever. 1:01:03.120 --> 1:01:03.880 That's a great point. 1:01:04.120 --> 1:01:05.880 I was working at the Ringer at the time that 1:01:06.000 --> 1:01:09.439 the first Mandalorian season came out, and people who don't 1:01:09.480 --> 1:01:11.919 care about Star Wars, don't give a shit about sci 1:01:12.000 --> 1:01:16.240 fi or fantasy that worked. There would be like when 1:01:16.320 --> 1:01:19.080 the subject of baby Yoda came up, like there was 1:01:19.120 --> 1:01:20.680 a it was like. 1:01:21.160 --> 1:01:23.080 You could feel the energy change in the room. 1:01:23.360 --> 1:01:28.400 Like my former editor Chris Ryan, like his wife was like, 1:01:29.320 --> 1:01:32.280 if you get a chance to see baby Yoda, to 1:01:32.360 --> 1:01:34.560 meet Baby Yoda, to go and see the prop, like 1:01:34.880 --> 1:01:37.240 you have to take me not a person who like 1:01:37.240 --> 1:01:39.200 cares about side. And that was like the vibe. There 1:01:39.200 --> 1:01:41.800 were people who were just like, listen, if Baby Yoda 1:01:41.880 --> 1:01:44.360 is coming by the office, or if anybody gets to 1:01:44.360 --> 1:01:47.000 go see Babyoda, please tell me because I want to 1:01:47.000 --> 1:01:48.120 go see Baby Yoda. 1:01:48.200 --> 1:01:48.520 Like that. 1:01:49.160 --> 1:01:51.840 I have not experienced something like that in a while, 1:01:51.880 --> 1:01:54.720 where it was just like this little. 1:01:54.640 --> 1:02:00.000 Prop doll baby and a matronic rogu baby fifty years 1:02:00.160 --> 1:02:04.840 old child, just like it was something that so many 1:02:04.880 --> 1:02:08.040 people needed And yeah, that was not that was not 1:02:08.320 --> 1:02:10.440 that's not a thing that could have really happened in 1:02:10.480 --> 1:02:11.040 a movie. 1:02:11.200 --> 1:02:15.280 Koa totally and like I also think the pandemic and 1:02:15.360 --> 1:02:17.280 it all probably played into that a little bit. 1:02:17.280 --> 1:02:19.320 We were all looking for some joy, but. 1:02:19.440 --> 1:02:22.880 Like, yeah, again it was it was taking something that 1:02:22.920 --> 1:02:26.440 we are very familiar with, you know, Yoda, and just 1:02:26.440 --> 1:02:28.400 flipping it on its head just a little. 1:02:28.120 --> 1:02:31.800 Bit, no Bay, and all of a sudden we're all. 1:02:31.680 --> 1:02:37.440 Were hurtzalg and we're all like, let me see the baby, 1:02:39.800 --> 1:02:41.120 let me see the baby. 1:02:42.880 --> 1:02:46.200 When I saw him for the first time, I said, John, 1:02:47.080 --> 1:02:53.240 do you understand what you have done? For the first time, 1:02:53.400 --> 1:02:57.680 you have captured the energy that was originally put into 1:02:57.680 --> 1:03:01.800 the world by the depictions of the Madonna and child, 1:03:02.760 --> 1:03:04.280 the Messiah John. 1:03:04.120 --> 1:03:06.240 Sevral chaos raids. John. 1:03:10.400 --> 1:03:13.760 Yeah, it was so cool and I want to acknowledge 1:03:13.760 --> 1:03:16.360 something to Zigwert and I were talking about this, like 1:03:16.360 --> 1:03:19.000 when we were getting the Zoom started up. Okay, the 1:03:19.040 --> 1:03:21.280 movies the latest trilogy. 1:03:20.920 --> 1:03:22.040 Was a disappointment. 1:03:22.440 --> 1:03:26.000 That said, we also grade this stuff on a different scale, 1:03:26.000 --> 1:03:29.920 which I think is a huge strength for the TV offerings, 1:03:29.960 --> 1:03:35.520 Right like Kathleen Kennedy JJ Aram's Ettal got to make 1:03:35.720 --> 1:03:38.920 three movies and we judge them on those three movies. 1:03:39.440 --> 1:03:43.280 On the TV side, it's like Clone Wars, which spanned 1:03:43.320 --> 1:03:46.640 one hundred and thirty three episodes, and some of those. 1:03:46.480 --> 1:03:47.600 Suck, but we don't care. 1:03:48.040 --> 1:03:49.760 You're never going to talk about the fact that some 1:03:49.800 --> 1:03:52.640 of those I didn't watch Resistance, I watched some of it, 1:03:52.640 --> 1:03:53.440 it wasn't for me. 1:03:54.040 --> 1:03:54.960 I love Rebels. 1:03:55.400 --> 1:03:58.440 But like the fact that on the TV side they 1:03:58.480 --> 1:04:01.880 get all of these they get all these chances to 1:04:01.960 --> 1:04:06.400 tell a story. And you know what if three episodes here, 1:04:06.400 --> 1:04:10.439 four episodes there are two episode arc here doesn't hit, 1:04:10.720 --> 1:04:13.320 we don't. We don't fucking give a shit. But if 1:04:13.320 --> 1:04:16.760 the movie suck, you're gonna hear about it. So there 1:04:16.920 --> 1:04:20.520 is an inherent there's a different way that we talk 1:04:20.600 --> 1:04:23.280 about these properties. And it's a little bit unfair for 1:04:23.280 --> 1:04:26.960 for JJ and Kathleen because you know, they only got 1:04:27.000 --> 1:04:29.000 those three chances where I was on the TV side, 1:04:29.000 --> 1:04:31.600 they got dozens and dozens and dozens of chances over 1:04:31.720 --> 1:04:33.960 multiple seasons to get it right or get yeah. 1:04:34.040 --> 1:04:36.960 I mean, I will say it would have been nice 1:04:37.080 --> 1:04:40.040 if JJ and everybody decided to have a plan when 1:04:40.080 --> 1:04:42.640 they made those three movies rather than just I go 1:04:42.880 --> 1:04:45.800 in a little willy nilly with it, because on TV 1:04:46.400 --> 1:04:50.120 they play you plan a lot I feel like they 1:04:50.240 --> 1:04:50.760 had one. 1:04:50.840 --> 1:04:55.760 But again, you can feel the filmmaking by committee in those. 1:04:55.960 --> 1:04:57.040 You can feel like you. 1:04:58.560 --> 1:05:03.160 Can feel that they're you know, somebody, some executive somewhere 1:05:03.280 --> 1:05:05.760 was like, there's not enough kids with the force in here. 1:05:05.840 --> 1:05:08.680 Can't one of these stable hands that have the Force 1:05:08.800 --> 1:05:11.000 or something? And they're like, oh shit, now we got 1:05:11.000 --> 1:05:13.320 to rewrite. But and you had to address it. But 1:05:13.440 --> 1:05:16.960 you felt and honestly the right you know, the last 1:05:17.040 --> 1:05:20.040 Jedi feels the least of that, but you feel it 1:05:20.080 --> 1:05:22.240 in all of them where it's like there's stuff in 1:05:22.520 --> 1:05:26.800 Rise of Skywalker where you like where it hooks up 1:05:26.800 --> 1:05:30.160 to nothing else. It's just like a snippet that happens. 1:05:30.200 --> 1:05:34.120 It's like that, like, yeah, we got to give fan 1:05:34.240 --> 1:05:36.800 a love interest because we can't. You can't date a 1:05:36.800 --> 1:05:38.720 black person, can't date a white lady in the future 1:05:38.760 --> 1:05:39.440 in space. 1:05:40.160 --> 1:05:46.000 Like, so, what are the futures of the movies? Like, 1:05:46.200 --> 1:05:48.360 one thing that is for sure is that people at 1:05:48.400 --> 1:05:50.160 Disney are smart. 1:05:50.360 --> 1:05:51.880 They may have made three. 1:05:52.320 --> 1:05:55.800 Like disappointing movies, but these are people who think about 1:05:55.800 --> 1:05:58.120 this ship all the time, Like, so, how do y'all think. 1:05:57.960 --> 1:05:59.520 They'll recalibrate in the future? 1:05:59.680 --> 1:06:04.200 And how will they approach movies now to work in 1:06:04.240 --> 1:06:08.160 conjunction with this burgeoning slate of TV offerings plus the comics, 1:06:08.160 --> 1:06:09.000 plus the books, etc. 1:06:09.840 --> 1:06:10.080 You know. 1:06:10.320 --> 1:06:14.959 I think that they're going to really use sort of 1:06:15.360 --> 1:06:18.480 this space that they're creating with television to get a 1:06:18.520 --> 1:06:22.560 feel for what people are really responding to and really 1:06:22.800 --> 1:06:28.520 start to understand that storytelling is changing and the way 1:06:28.520 --> 1:06:32.240 we tell stories people want more from them. And I 1:06:32.280 --> 1:06:35.400 think that this is going to be a real opportunity 1:06:35.440 --> 1:06:37.040 for them to sort of sit back and like take 1:06:37.080 --> 1:06:39.560 a beat and take a breath and not necessarily have 1:06:39.680 --> 1:06:43.280 to put out a movie every single year and all 1:06:43.360 --> 1:06:46.520 the have all of those expectations sort of rolled into it. 1:06:46.560 --> 1:06:47.720 They're going to be able to. 1:06:48.720 --> 1:06:53.680 Really let the creation of new lore sort of simmer 1:06:53.760 --> 1:06:56.880 in itself and see what people are really responding to 1:06:57.640 --> 1:07:00.400 and what really resonates with what's going on cult truly. 1:07:00.800 --> 1:07:04.120 So I think it's really important because this trilogy that 1:07:04.160 --> 1:07:06.920 we just saw it comes from a different culture, like, 1:07:06.960 --> 1:07:10.720 it comes from a different desire for what movies are 1:07:10.760 --> 1:07:13.360 and what movies should be, and it was just too 1:07:13.440 --> 1:07:15.440 much of a reflection of what we've seen in the past, 1:07:15.480 --> 1:07:20.160 and we're moving so much farther ahead in how we 1:07:20.200 --> 1:07:22.080 tell stories and the types of stories that we want 1:07:22.120 --> 1:07:25.640 to tell. And I think that TV gives them a 1:07:26.200 --> 1:07:32.000 much greater space of experimentation that I think they'll be 1:07:32.040 --> 1:07:35.080 able to then sort of let things rise to the 1:07:35.120 --> 1:07:38.360 top and really explore that in a big budget way. 1:07:38.760 --> 1:07:40.640 Yeah, I mean, just especially that last part about the 1:07:40.680 --> 1:07:43.439 idea of experimentation, Like that's where they can test things 1:07:43.440 --> 1:07:46.480 out and see what sticks, you know, like like introducing 1:07:46.520 --> 1:07:49.479 the idea of like force healing in the Mandalorian before 1:07:49.640 --> 1:07:52.360 it went to the big screens, Like I mean Star Wars. 1:07:52.360 --> 1:07:54.360 I mean, all fans are bad. Fantom is bad in general, 1:07:54.360 --> 1:07:55.080 but like you know, Star. 1:07:54.920 --> 1:07:59.240 Wars fans hate when you introduce a new power that 1:07:59.320 --> 1:08:01.160 comes out of nowhere. But when you think about it, 1:08:01.200 --> 1:08:03.040 like they like there was no tea up for like 1:08:03.720 --> 1:08:12.640 force lightning, like propatites, like does that ship and yeah help, yeah, yeah, 1:08:12.960 --> 1:08:14.760 somehow he came back and he can do force lighting. 1:08:14.840 --> 1:08:16.519 But like you know, like that tea that. 1:08:16.560 --> 1:08:18.680 Like Gorgo does that in the minimal rate and then 1:08:18.680 --> 1:08:21.080 like Raid does, Like that's a running theme throughout you know, 1:08:22.439 --> 1:08:25.479 the Rise of Skywalkers. Like I think that teeing stuff 1:08:25.560 --> 1:08:27.120 up that like maybe just get like a little a 1:08:27.120 --> 1:08:29.040 little nugget of like, oh, this is a force power, 1:08:29.160 --> 1:08:31.160 like this is like a thing of the universe that 1:08:31.200 --> 1:08:33.479 we didn't know. And then I think, you know, if 1:08:33.520 --> 1:08:35.240 they want to test out, like if there's like a 1:08:35.320 --> 1:08:38.400 if they do, like you know, they have like a 1:08:38.400 --> 1:08:40.080 Sith show or whatever they want to like, Oh, this 1:08:40.160 --> 1:08:42.120 character is interesting and I would like to see it 1:08:42.160 --> 1:08:44.519 makes sense for this to come to culminate in a feature. 1:08:44.520 --> 1:08:46.840 This is a story that can only be told in 1:08:46.880 --> 1:08:49.439 a ninety minute like features story act, Like I think 1:08:49.520 --> 1:08:51.160 our structure that would make sense. 1:08:51.000 --> 1:08:52.479 Like, but I don't. I don't know. 1:08:52.479 --> 1:08:54.960 I can't see them being like we're gonna do another 1:08:55.040 --> 1:08:58.840 trilogy about another good versus bad. Yeah, I think I 1:08:58.880 --> 1:09:01.719 think an interesting take would see the gray of the world, 1:09:01.760 --> 1:09:05.240 like the neutral Sith, the gray Jedi, like just seeing 1:09:05.280 --> 1:09:07.840 like how those people interact, like something that takes place 1:09:07.880 --> 1:09:10.080 after the fall of the Jedi Order, where it's just like, yeah, 1:09:10.160 --> 1:09:11.720 there are people out there sort of like kyler Rin 1:09:11.840 --> 1:09:14.880 who are like sort of okay at being sort using 1:09:14.880 --> 1:09:16.280 the four, but they can still get their ass beat 1:09:16.439 --> 1:09:18.240 by people that don't know what they're that sort of 1:09:18.240 --> 1:09:20.479 know what they're doing. Like that's an interesting onle just 1:09:20.520 --> 1:09:22.559 like seeing the rogue one of it, seeing like you know, 1:09:22.640 --> 1:09:24.920 the the feet on the ground every day, people that 1:09:24.960 --> 1:09:27.400 are like living in this post glactic or Final chapter, 1:09:27.439 --> 1:09:28.360 whatever the fuck it was called. 1:09:29.640 --> 1:09:31.000 What they're like final order. 1:09:31.280 --> 1:09:33.960 Yeah, well that's what I loved so much about Visions, 1:09:34.000 --> 1:09:37.519 Like the ideas that they get into in those in 1:09:37.560 --> 1:09:41.880 the episodes are just it's so exciting to see, you know, 1:09:42.240 --> 1:09:45.840 like a Ronan style story with you know, like a 1:09:45.920 --> 1:09:49.719 Sith and just I mean the way that the Force 1:09:49.880 --> 1:09:52.839 they use different aspects of the Force on different planets. 1:09:53.000 --> 1:09:55.599 I love that shit, Like give. 1:09:55.479 --> 1:09:59.000 Me more of it, like spoon feed it to me, Like. 1:09:59.600 --> 1:10:01.479 That's what I what I mean. 1:10:01.560 --> 1:10:06.000 Like, you know, as a as a kind of like 1:10:06.120 --> 1:10:10.800 basic storytelling rule, there should always be new information. And 1:10:10.840 --> 1:10:16.000 that's the great thing about Star Wars Visions is yes, 1:10:16.080 --> 1:10:19.759 we're exploring kind of like the core themes of Star Wars, 1:10:19.800 --> 1:10:26.400 the duality of the Force, you know, droids, a human 1:10:26.439 --> 1:10:31.840 relationship with droids, cool laser swords, et cetera. But it's 1:10:31.880 --> 1:10:34.720 also just feels so fresh and new. This has been 1:10:34.760 --> 1:10:45.880 so fun up next to the endgame. We're in the 1:10:45.960 --> 1:10:47.960 end game now, and this week we are playing the 1:10:48.040 --> 1:10:53.200 Medal of Yavin, in which we will award that great 1:10:53.240 --> 1:10:55.800 medal that Chewiy didn't get at the end of Star 1:10:55.840 --> 1:11:00.240 Wars racial basically racial reasons like why didn't he was 1:11:00.479 --> 1:11:02.920 so important to the to the mission to blow up 1:11:02.960 --> 1:11:04.719 the death start and then he doesn't get a fucking medal. 1:11:04.720 --> 1:11:07.559 It's it's honestly insane, and I still get mad about it. 1:11:07.680 --> 1:11:10.600 But we are gonna award the Medal of Yavin to 1:11:11.080 --> 1:11:15.679 our favorite character from the first three episodes of Star 1:11:15.760 --> 1:11:19.320 Wars Visions. Let's start with you, Cody, who is your favorite? 1:11:20.080 --> 1:11:22.320 I got to give award to my boy, to my 1:11:22.560 --> 1:11:25.720 slug king Geezer, the Hub. He's holding it down for 1:11:25.800 --> 1:11:30.759 all the fail sons out there in the universe. Garage 1:11:30.880 --> 1:11:33.200 Space Garage Buck band playing that double bass or double 1:11:33.240 --> 1:11:35.800 space base. But if they called it, Yeah, I Love, 1:11:35.840 --> 1:11:37.960 I Love, I Love a good hut that's going through 1:11:37.960 --> 1:11:40.240 his punk phase. And since they lived for thousands of years, 1:11:40.360 --> 1:11:42.880 I've imagine Geezer's probably like two hundred years old, So 1:11:42.880 --> 1:11:45.040 like I Love, Yeah, we stay at a King. 1:11:45.720 --> 1:11:48.639 Alicia, I have to go. 1:11:48.840 --> 1:11:50.880 This is I have to say this is unusual for me. 1:11:50.960 --> 1:11:52.240 I'm not usually like a. 1:11:52.160 --> 1:11:56.280 Big SITH person, but the Bandit Leader Lucy Lewis character 1:11:56.320 --> 1:12:01.320 and the duel she just she deserves a metal just 1:12:01.479 --> 1:12:08.000 for the crazy swhirling lightsaber umbrella thing, like I'm sorry, 1:12:08.120 --> 1:12:10.280 that is like one of the most bad ass. 1:12:10.000 --> 1:12:11.400 Things I have ever seen. 1:12:12.160 --> 1:12:16.040 And I mean I also really the little chief in 1:12:16.200 --> 1:12:21.559 the in the ronan he's he's actually probably deserves it 1:12:21.600 --> 1:12:24.840 more than the actual terrible sys O's Like. 1:12:25.000 --> 1:12:28.320 She was just so badass, Like I couldn't get enough. 1:12:28.400 --> 1:12:29.320 She was incredibly bad. 1:12:30.160 --> 1:12:33.520 Oh my god, for days. 1:12:33.680 --> 1:12:37.439 When she lets her like her hood just like fly 1:12:38.840 --> 1:12:45.960 her hair was like, yes, I also love the Bandit Leader, 1:12:46.000 --> 1:12:48.599 but you know what, in order to keep it different, 1:12:48.640 --> 1:12:51.960 I'm going to pick the twins together carrying in. I'm 1:12:51.960 --> 1:12:55.760 going to pick them as one person who together kind 1:12:55.760 --> 1:12:59.280 of embody the duality of the force and the constant 1:12:59.320 --> 1:13:00.719 struggle between light and dark. 1:13:01.280 --> 1:13:01.639 Uh. 1:13:01.720 --> 1:13:09.479 And of course for their incredible uh use of hyper 1:13:09.560 --> 1:13:19.560 stylized violence, massive destruction, and immense power in the seemingly 1:13:20.040 --> 1:13:24.880 frail bodies of two individuals. The contains so much power 1:13:25.040 --> 1:13:28.000 and force and it was just it was incredible to watch. 1:13:28.040 --> 1:13:31.479 I'm gonna they're gonna have to share the medal. They'll 1:13:31.520 --> 1:13:35.320 figure out a way to do it. Yeah, slice it 1:13:35.360 --> 1:13:35.920 down the medal. 1:13:36.920 --> 1:13:37.400 Those are. 1:13:39.160 --> 1:13:39.439 Yes. 1:13:39.640 --> 1:13:42.519 I was so that that medals for them. Let me 1:13:42.640 --> 1:13:44.080 just leave it in a room and walk away. I 1:13:44.080 --> 1:13:45.759 don't want to hand it to them because I'll probably 1:13:45.800 --> 1:13:47.760 get cut up into a million pieces. 1:13:48.200 --> 1:13:49.240 That's it for the endgame. 1:13:49.360 --> 1:13:51.960 Let us know whether you agree or couldn't disagree more 1:13:52.160 --> 1:13:54.600 or have your own Medal of Yavin winner. Get it 1:13:54.720 --> 1:13:58.120 us at hashtag x r v endgame. That's x r 1:13:58.280 --> 1:14:02.200 v end Game, Cody, Alicia, thanks for joining us on 1:14:02.240 --> 1:14:03.800 another episode of Extra Vision. 1:14:03.920 --> 1:14:06.639 Plug plug Plug. Where can we find y'all next? 1:14:06.840 --> 1:14:08.599 If you want to find me, yay, physic across all 1:14:08.600 --> 1:14:11.559 them social media platforms, Baby, that's where I be. Check 1:14:11.560 --> 1:14:17.600 out Amazing Spider Man number seventy. Yeah, I got I 1:14:17.840 --> 1:14:20.280 got that dropping out. So yeah, that's that's where. 1:14:20.080 --> 1:14:24.200 I be amazing, And I'm at Alicia lots on all 1:14:24.280 --> 1:14:28.800 the things Twitter, Instagram, not Facebook, and that's where I 1:14:28.840 --> 1:14:30.599 post all my stories and all. 1:14:30.560 --> 1:14:34.160 The silly thoughts. So yeah, you can check me out there. 1:14:37.160 --> 1:14:40.000 Join us each week on Wednesday, our new regular release 1:14:40.080 --> 1:14:42.559 day for your weekly dose to the deepest dives, hottest takes, 1:14:42.600 --> 1:14:46.080 et cetera. May the Force remain with you, May it 1:14:46.200 --> 1:14:48.439 be with you, carry it with you wherever you go. 1:14:48.520 --> 1:14:51.720 Folks. 1:14:54.720 --> 1:14:56.760 X ray Vision is a Crooked Beata production. This show 1:14:56.840 --> 1:14:59.360 is produced by Chris Lord and Saul Rubin. The show 1:14:59.439 --> 1:15:03.080 is executive produced by myself and Sandy Geard, Caroline Resident 1:15:03.080 --> 1:15:05.960 and Carlton Gillespie Or Consulting produces. Thank you to Brian 1:15:06.040 --> 1:15:09.840 Vasquez for our theme music and editing and sound design. Today, 1:15:10.360 --> 1:15:14.240 Sarah give Alaska and the folks at chapter four. Sarah, 1:15:14.280 --> 1:15:17.600 thank you for doing this from your vehicle today. I 1:15:17.800 --> 1:15:20.479 super appreciate it and it's been fun to watch over 1:15:21.360 --> 1:15:27.360 Bye bye Cody, who is the tastiest star Wars Alien 1:15:27.560 --> 1:15:28.880 Like if you had to give you had to cook 1:15:28.920 --> 1:15:29.240 him up? 1:15:29.520 --> 1:15:33.520 Oh boy, Uh, this sounds great. I mean the salacious 1:15:33.600 --> 1:15:36.120 Crumb comes to mind because his last name says crumbs, 1:15:36.120 --> 1:15:38.479 so I feel like he's probably some tasty liver fat 1:15:38.479 --> 1:15:38.880 going on. 1:15:39.240 --> 1:15:42.920 I've I've always maintained that Admiral Acbar like some salt, 1:15:43.080 --> 1:15:46.200 oh boy, yeah, and some lemon. You sear that bad 1:15:46.280 --> 1:15:50.120 boy up? Yeah, he's good it tastes. Oh yeah, so 1:15:50.520 --> 1:15:51.120 fucking good. 1:15:51.240 --> 1:15:56.720 Pull out those pin bones, yeah you know, yeah. 1:15:55.000 --> 1:15:57.320 I bet him? And what was that the Squid Dude 1:15:57.400 --> 1:16:01.360 kid Kit bash? Oh yeah yeah we. 1:16:01.400 --> 1:16:03.400 Get this cut, the cut those tentacles off and like 1:16:03.600 --> 1:16:04.960 just like fry those up. 1:16:06.600 --> 1:16:10.800 Yeah yeah, like oh fuck yeah there fry yeah,