WEBVTT - The A&G Replay Wednesday Hour Two 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:04.000 Hey, we're I'mstrong and Getty. We're featuring our podcast One 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:07.040 more Thing. Find it wherever you find all your podcasts. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:08.399 So this blew my mind. 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:10.520 The other day, my husband and I went to a 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:12.719 restaurant and we're sitting there eating and I could just 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:15.720 overhear the conversation happening next to me. It's a mom 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.680 and her daughter who's maybe thirteen. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:20.919 Are you aby, Are you a person that can tune 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:22.920 out people next to you or can't tune out people? 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:25.200 I cannot? Yeah, and it drive me nuts. 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:27.720 I easily can turn out conversations with me, but like 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.760 I have friends and family members who can't, And you 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.360 can't talk to them if there's someone else talking over 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:35.839 there because they can't stop listening to them. It's I 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:37.320 guess you're either built that way or you're not. 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:41.280 I have a very hard time tuning out extraneous audio. 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:45.360 Yeah, same here, so and I couldn't tune this out 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:49.320 at all. And again, she was maybe thirteen, and they're 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.880 talking about something and they weren't agreeing, and this little 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:58.280 girl goes shut up mom, and the mom didn't react 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:03.360 and they continue to argue, and my jaw dropped because 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.760 when I was raised telling my parents to shut up. 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:08.160 I mean, I've never done that. 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.320 I have never in my life told my mom or 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:12.120 dad to shut up in a serious manner. There was 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.000 one time my dad and I were joking around and 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:18.600 I accidentally went to shut up, and I stopped dead 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:20.520 in my tracks in fear because I was like, I 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:24.680 know those words aren't uttered, right, But I know parenting 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.040 is changing generation generationally? 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.440 Is that okay? Now? Is telling your parents to shut 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:34.040 up like a normal thing? Jack? Have your kids ever dared? 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.920 One kid did once? But yeah, no, that was not okay. 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.640 It did not go well, okay, kids, right? 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.680 I just I don't know if there's if that's a 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.800 shift that's happening where the way you talk to your 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.400 parents is changing. But the way that the mom didn't react, 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:49.840 I'm sitting there going what. 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.160 I wouldn't take it in any tone, But was the 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.480 tone kind of like the valley go oh, shut up? 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.560 No, they were they were having a serious cone. 0:01:57.560 --> 0:01:59.080 Wow, shut your pie hole. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:04.280 Yeah, so that certainly would not have washed in my house. 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:06.120 I think one of the kids may have tried it 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:10.359 at one point and it went very poorly. But how 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:14.720 long is a generation? They usually say twenty years Yeah, 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:18.519 I think, okay, well all right then, well, at least 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.120 my oldest kid in your youngest kid. I raised my 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:26.919 kids during the previous generation, which is kind of funny. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.520 Shut up still is not fly with anybody I know. 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:30.399 I don't think. 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:35.239 If it does, you need to take a parent in class. 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:40.120 Okay, Like Kevin Hart's got a bit where he's talking 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.560 about how it turns out he was mistaken but he 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:45.880 thought his kid he was yelling down to his kid 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.239 to do something, and he thought his kid yelled fu 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.920 said the words to him, and he just like gets 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:54.240 He's like what what? 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:55.399 What just happened here? 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.840 And the crowd just goes berserk about the idea of 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:00.480 a kid saying that to their pres which I was 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:04.560 happy to hear, but that was just like roundly seen 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:06.960 as oh my god, a nuclear bomb just went off. 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.000 That is not okay. How is he going to react 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:10.959 to this. It turns out he mishurt his kid over 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:14.120 something like that. But yeah, no, shut up is not 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:16.280 okay any but any world I know of. 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.160 Okay, that brings me some comfort because the kid, the 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.880 girl was similar to your kid's age, and I was. 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.520 But the fact that the mom I mean she just 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:25.000 took it. 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.799 Oh boy, that I feel bad for both of them 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:35.760 because almost guaranteed that's a bad situation either happening or 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:36.520 going to happen. 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:37.680 Yeah. 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.800 I remember back when I was raising my kids and 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.800 would talk about it on the air, and people would 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:46.040 call in or you know, write in with questions and 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:47.000 that sort of thing. 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:47.840 What I thought, And. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:53.240 A number of times I thought, my first piece of 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:58.480 advice is get a time machine, because you're asking me, 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:03.520 how do I undo fourteen years of getting it wrong? 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:09.280 And yeah, you know, it's like after your fifth heart attack, 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:10.360 saying your doctor. 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.760 You know, Well, it's you know what I'm saying. 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.080 Oh, I came across a great thing on parenting that 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.360 I was going to edit for the show because it's long, 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:22.200 but I wish, wish, wish I'd read it when my 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:26.480 kids were young. Jonah Goldberg actually wrote it. He's quoting 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:32.479 a bunch of other people, but he's talking about how 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.680 there's a new book by a developmental psychologist who had 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:39.000 never heard of before, Alison Kropnik. But the name of 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:43.080 the book is The Gardener and the Carpenter, and she 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:46.679 points out that the very word parenting really only emerged 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:50.160 in the fifties and didn't become popular until the seventies 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:55.839 because until the fifties, people generally lived in their hometown 0:04:55.960 --> 0:05:00.120 near all their relatives and they would just observe and 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.960 everybody's there to help, and you didn't have to learn 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:03.800 about parenting. 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:04.839 It was self evident. 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.640 You saw it all the time, and your mentors were 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:12.280 around you anyway. But then in the seventies, people got 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:15.039 more isolated, more mobile, they moved away and that sort 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:19.480 of thing, and you had these parenting experts pop up, and. 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:23.320 Often with no kids or bad kids. 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.760 Right, that's right, Yeah, yeah, there's plenty of that too. 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:30.440 But missus Gropnick point says that parents began to think 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.520 like carpenters, who have a clear idea in mind of 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.560 what they're trying to achieve. They look carefully at the 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.560 materials they have to work with, and it's their job 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.800 to assemble those materials into a finished project. The project 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.600 or product that can be judged by everyone against clear standards. 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.880 Are the right angles, perfect, does the door work? Gropnik 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.120 notes that the messiness and veriability are a carpenter's enemies. 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:53.359 Precision and control are her allies. Measure twice, cut once, 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:58.480 et cetera and her thing, and I've got to admit 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.279 I don't want to get too deep into the because 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.479 it's incredibly serious and will make me very sad. But 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.719 I was influenced by a calmness to his a so 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.359 called parenting expert, and he was very much of the 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.880 carpenter school. And when I ran into a kid with 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:16.240 special needs, specifically on the autism spectrum, that was the 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.640 last thing I needed. The last thing I needed was 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.560 a carpenter's point of view about parenting. 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:22.800 And MS. 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.279 Gropnik's thing here and I haven't read the book. Is 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.360 a better way to think about child wearing is as 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.919 a gardener. Your job is to create a protected and 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.520 nurturing space for plants to flourish. It takes work, but 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.440 you don't have to be a perfectionist. Weed the garden, 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.760 water it, step back, and the plants will do their 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:46.600 things unpredictably and often with delightful surprises. And it's not 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:49.560 like a hippie dippy. Anything goes. She's talking about weeding 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.320 the garden and doing what needs to be done. 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.160 But you're not a carpenter or a gardener. 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:58.680 What exactly is the carpenter's way. I don't know what 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:00.240 you're talking about as far as the carpent. 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.400 Would it be fair to say, it's just like, there's 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.440 one way to do it, one size fits all to 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:07.479 get this to come out right. 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.200 Essentially, Yeah, it's cut and dried. There are a list 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:13.560 of rules. You follow him, it'll be fine. As opposed 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:18.160 to a garden, where it's much more about nurturing than 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:24.800 forcing that it's absolutely inevitably going to go sideways at times. 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.040 If you're a good carpenter, it doesn't go sideways. You 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.600 can make cabinet after cabinet after cabinet, and if a 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:36.000 mistake is or if something goes wrong, that's utterly unacceptable. 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.119 Whereas as a gardener, something's always going to go wrong. 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.920 That's what the job is, and you have to adapt. 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:43.160 Yeah. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.800 The only thing I could say to your situation you overheard, Katie, 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.360 because I've kind of lived this myself, is I've got 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.960 one kid that's got all kinds of diagnosed things, and 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:53.720 kinds of medication and all kinds of things. He has 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.400 said and done things that if his brother did them, 0:07:56.520 --> 0:08:00.400 it would be the end of the world. But the 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:04.120 kid that's got all these various situations. He's not always 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.480 in control of everything he does. And also if you 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.800 react a certain way you're about I mean, she might 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:11.880 have a kid that if she had said anything to 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:15.000 that kid at that moment about that, the table's getting 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:18.600 flipped over. I mean, the police are coming that sort 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:18.840 of thing. 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.320 Possibly, I don't even think of that possible circumstance that 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:22.640 they're going. 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.880 You know that that all could have had that problem. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:30.320 Final bit of wisdom learned too late, at least partially, 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:35.160 is when I first became a youth sports coach. I 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:38.080 think I went I can't remember where this came from, 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.840 but it was pointed out to me that you don't 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.240 coach all of your players the same. 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:45.800 You coach all of your players the way they need 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:46.520 to be coached. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:51.640 Some kids respond well to like the old school disciplined 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:55.559 to bark at him some because some kids shut down, 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:57.559 and you're not going to make him a better player 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.480 a better person doing that. You got to figure out 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:02.240 how to pick their locks. And parenting's a lot like 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:08.320 that too. If you think it's as mathematical and cut 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:10.280 and dried as carpentry, you're gonna do it wrong. 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.080 So how did how did the things turn out with 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.240 the woman and the kid who said shut up? Did 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.440 they just eventually did they stop talking or did they 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:20.400 eventually get up and leave? 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.560 They went back and forth for like maybe another thirty seconds, 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.920 and then their food came and I checked out of 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:29.200 that conversation pretty much. 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.120 But yeah, it shocked me. 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.480 But I like that gardening analogy because that makes more 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.160 sense that you're going to have more room to kind 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.080 of wiggle when things go awry. 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:41.920 Yeah. I don't know about that mom dealing with her kid, 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:46.760 but like, I only think about my parenting roughly eighty 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:47.360 percent of the. 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.439 Time all day long. So yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.560 Now that's not to say there are no rules in gardening. 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.920 For instance, if you feed gatorade to plants, they will die, 0:09:56.120 --> 0:10:01.079 as outlined hilariously in the classic movie slash documentary Idiocracy. 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.760 All right, of course that it wasn't gatorade. It was 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:10.719 called what Brono Brondo or Electrolytes, That's got Electrolytes. 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:15.160 Jack Armstrong and Joe the Armstrong. 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:15.520 And Getty Show. 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:18.439 I came across this. 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.760 Parable and I'm not exactly sure what to think about it. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:23.800 I think I know what to think, but I thought 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:29.280 it was entertaining. The donkey told the tiger, the grass 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:33.200 is blue. The tiger replied, no, the grass is green. 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:37.360 The discussion became heated, and the two decided to submit 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.600 the issue to arbitration. So they approached the lion, who 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.680 apparently is in charge, of course, King of the jungle, 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:48.080 King of the beasts. Sure, donkey, donkeys and lions coabitating, 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:53.199 all right, and getting in arguments with tigers anyway. As 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:56.359 they approached the lion on his throne, the donkey started screaming. 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.880 Yours your it is. Isn't it true that grass is blue? 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.800 The lion replied, if you believe it is true, the 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:06.400 grass is blue. The donkey rushed forward and continued, the 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.080 tiger disagrees with me. He contradicts me and annoys me. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.840 They should have thrown it. It's a microaggression. Please please 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:16.880 punish him. He's triggering me exactly. Yeah, I got to 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.040 rewrite this to make it even more sickening. 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:20.839 Let's see. 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:25.200 The king then declared speech, the tiger will be punished 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:30.000 with three days of silence. Got to keep his giant 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:34.040 bitoothed mouth shut. That's the pun. The donkey jumped with 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.560 joy and went on his way content and repeating the 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:40.200 grass is blue, the grass is blue. The tiger asks 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:43.800 the lion, your majesty, why have you punished me? After all, 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:47.240 the grass is green. The lion replied, you've known and 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.760 seen that the grass is green. The tiger asked, so, 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.080 why do you punish me. The lion replied, that has 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.839 nothing to do with the question of whether the grass 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.680 is blue or green. The punishment is because it is 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.320 rating for a brave, intelligent creature like you to waste 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:06.040 time arguing with an ass And on top of that, 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.480 you came and bothered me with that question just to 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:12.600 validate something you already knew was true. The biggest waste 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.240 of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:17.640 doesn't care about the truth or reality, but only the 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.800 victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.480 discussions that make no sense. There are people who, for 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.320 all the evidence presented to them, do not have the 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.840 ability to understand others who are blinded by ego, hatred 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:31.960 and resentment, and the only thing that they want is 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:33.480 to be right, even if they aren't. 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:34.960 So. 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:40.600 Arguing with the actual donkey, the donctivist, if you will, 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:42.120 I can. 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:47.400 See why I won't. I can say I like it. 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.320 A great example of this is when you have the 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.880 two activist groups screaming at each other in the street 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.200 over the barricades, and the poor cops are rolling their 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.160 eyes thinking, oh my god, I hope I go home 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:00.080 without getting hit over the head with something. 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:03.760 That's stupid. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.560 But if the donkeys of the world have like taken 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:13.440 over your public school, don't you have to as the 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:16.880 lion point out that they're teaching the lion cubs perverse thing. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.280 Does it ever do any good? I'm not sure it 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:23.360 ever does any good? Like you, of course it does. Well, 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.360 you have to uh, well, you're not going to convince them. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.560 You just have more people, I guess. I guess the 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:29.880 thing would be if you got other people like witnessing 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.199 this and you've got to convince them. But convincing the 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.000 one the one person, they're not going. 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:34.760 To change their mind. 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.240 Well, right, And that's what bothers me a little bit 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:41.640 about this parable and it's not provoking anyway, is if 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:47.000 you go if you as the tiger, for instance, saying 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:51.160 confused adolescent girls should not be told they're actually little 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:54.960 boys because puberty scary, especially for girls. If you are 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:58.200 the tiger advocating that, and you go to the lion 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:05.920 of the electorate, that's what you have to do. I mean, 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.760 if it's just a story about animals in the forest 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.200 at each other, then it's not a parable. It's just 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.720 a mildly amusing story. But if it's a parable, it 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.280 obviously has something to do with as a humankind. And 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.600 if you've got the donkey pitching that the grass is 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.440 blue and it's like infected the public schools and your 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.120 kids come home with a dad, you're wrong, the grass 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.120 is blue, and my teacher says you're a hater and 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:31.040 a racist for saying that you gotta go to the lion, 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:31.480 don't you. 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.240 Well, yeah, I suppose, But I think the parable works 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.440 for just individuals. Which I was picturing. I wasn't picturing 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.920 the public square. Is just if I recognize the guy 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.680 at the end of the bar is like the donkey 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:45.920 about some topic, I'm not going to engage them. 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:46.880 What's the freaking point? 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.520 Oh, I agree with that one hundred percent Katie's thoughts 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:52.880 on the donkeys. 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.760 There's no place in time or space where donkeys and 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:58.920 lions have been in the same orbit. 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:03.440 Is there unless the lion's already full. Let alone talking 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:08.080 donkeys and talking lions. Yeah, that's what I was stuck on. Yeah, 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:12.600 having a conversation. This is baffling, exactly. It's a parable, 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:16.920 you know, I'm skulls come on over my head. Yeah, 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.680 you're right. It's an individual thing and fair enough. 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.840 And very very true. Do not well, I know some 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:27.120 people feel it seems like they enjoy it. There's no 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.360 point in arguing with some people about some topics. 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:32.920 Oh yeah, yeah. 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:34.400 Well, and the fact that a lot of people just 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.440 want to be quote unquote, they want to win the argument. 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.520 They don't care if they're right. It works both ways too. 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:41.600 I mean sometimes I've been I don't think I've ever 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:43.440 said this, but I've been in conversation before where I 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.520 could say, look, I've thought and read about this a lot. 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.280 Nothing's going to change my mind. I mean, you can 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.760 say it louder and slower if you like your opinion, 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:54.480 but it's not going to change my mind. 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.640 So I or you can hint that I'm an idiot 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.880 for not agreeing with you, but you're really wasting your. 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:03.000 Time and mine, you donkey. 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.040 Interestingly enough, Kentucky blue Grass is not blue either it's 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:07.920 slightly blue er. 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:10.680 I was disappointed in that by a kid as a kid, 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:12.480 not by a kid as a kid. When I heard 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:14.480 about bluegrass, I thought, this is gonna be awesome. My 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.760 dad got blue grass for the yard, didn't inform it. 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.000 All the other kids are gonna be so jealous. Oh yeah, 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.400 grass is blue is merged Simpson's hair. 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:24.600 This is gonna be great. 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:27.480 You guys just ruined my dad. I didn't know this. 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:29.640 You didn't, all right? 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.400 No, never been to Kentucky then, huh No, I have not, 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.080 and I have all these dreams. I just pictured blue 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:36.000 lawns everywhere. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:38.840 I pictured that too. Yeah, I pictured that. 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:41.480 I just had it in my mind. It looked so fantastic. 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:43.360 Turned on not to be true. 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.480 Bluebirds are blue, blue. 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:50.440 Berries are blue. There's grass is green? W t F. 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.400 The Armstrong and Getdy Show. Yeah or Jack your show 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:56.640 podcasts and our hot lenks. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.240 Wrong and Getty conveying our love panel. 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:14.080 So you said love in Bloom or Crazy Stoker psychobiatch, Yes, exactly, Okay, 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:15.040 but that. 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:19.359 Question will be decided by the love panel. That's always 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:23.320 the problem with that is just it's it's it's it's 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.639 whether or not the other person is interested in you. 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:34.320 All love like chasing someone's stuff is it's just so 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.040 romantic and well received if the other person's interested, if 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:37.320 they're not. 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.639 And he never gave up, and now we've been married 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:41.840 for fifty years, right beautiful. 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.600 And I said no five times and I came out aside, 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:46.440 and he was waiting by my car with a rose. 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.720 If you kind of like the guy, that's just awesome. 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.520 If you don't like the guy, you call the police 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:55.679 and get a restraining order and maybe pepper spray him 0:17:56.280 --> 0:18:00.600 or send your brothers to beat him down. Yeah, rock exactly. Ah, yes, 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:05.040 but this is a gal on a mission. Love and 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:06.120 Bloom are crazy. 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.280 Stalker psycho biac Let's find Out thirteen Michael. 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:10.560 I saw this really cute. 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:12.680 Guy at the grocery store the other day, so naturally 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:15.200 I followed him to the checkout counter, and when he 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.919 gave the cashier his credit card, I peeped it to 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.800 see what his name was, and then I googled him 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:24.280 and found his social media profiles, and I was able 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.440 to tell that he was single. So I went through 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.879 his friend's list, and I found his mother's page, and 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.160 then I looked through his mother's page, and I saw 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.000 that she was a member of this book club that's 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.240 in my area. So I went to the book club 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.760 meeting and I met his mom there, and she just 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.359 thought I was so nice, and I brought it up 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.159 randomly in conversation that I was single, and she let 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:45.720 me know that she had a son that was single 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.080 also that lived in the area, and maybe it would 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.280 be cool for us to get together in chat sometime. 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:52.879 So I gave her my number, which she gave to 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:56.160 her son, and this morning he texted me and asked 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.399 if I'd like to get together this weekend and do 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.400 something that we're. 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:01.040 Going to go on a date. 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:07.440 Wait until he sees this video and goes, oh my god, 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:09.280 who did I go on a date with? 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:13.560 Wow, that's a pretty successful effort she made there. 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:14.720 I don't know how it's gonna turn out. 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:15.840 That's insane. 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:18.440 Well, we have a little update for you. 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:24.320 That young man is now dissolving in a is that 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:29.760 psycho decided he wasn't worthy of living, and she is 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:35.119 now wearing his skin as a garment and his fingerbones 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:35.920 as a necklace. 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:43.200 Follow up segment. All right, all right, so. 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:48.040 Dude, run from her. God, she actually went to the 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:56.640 book club meeting and got to know his mom. Oh wow, because. 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:57.720 He's a cute guy. 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.840 I mean, look, let's all right, recognize, I can see 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:05.840 a dozen attractive women. There will be one that'll like 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:10.600 make my brain explode for whatever, genetic, anthropology, anthropological who 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:15.160 knows why it happens. Reason, doctor Freud had his own opinions, whatever, 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.919 And maybe it was one of those. Maybe it was 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:23.159 one of those. She saw him and just her jaw dropped. 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:27.720 It was like, oh my god, for whatever reason. Now, 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:31.520 certainly concocting some sort of can you help me out 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:34.199 to the car with this or that would have been 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.160