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Speaker 1: Hey, we're I'mstrong and Getty. We're featuring our podcast One

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Speaker 1: more Thing. Find it wherever you find all your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: So this blew my mind.

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Speaker 3: The other day, my husband and I went to a

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Speaker 3: restaurant and we're sitting there eating and I could just

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Speaker 3: overhear the conversation happening next to me. It's a mom

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Speaker 3: and her daughter who's maybe thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Are you aby, Are you a person that can tune

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Speaker 1: out people next to you or can't tune out people?

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Speaker 2: I cannot? Yeah, and it drive me nuts.

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Speaker 1: I easily can turn out conversations with me, but like

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Speaker 1: I have friends and family members who can't, And you

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Speaker 1: can't talk to them if there's someone else talking over

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Speaker 1: there because they can't stop listening to them. It's I

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Speaker 1: guess you're either built that way or you're not.

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Speaker 4: I have a very hard time tuning out extraneous audio.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, same here, so and I couldn't tune this out

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Speaker 3: at all. And again, she was maybe thirteen, and they're

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Speaker 3: talking about something and they weren't agreeing, and this little

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Speaker 3: girl goes shut up mom, and the mom didn't react

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Speaker 3: and they continue to argue, and my jaw dropped because

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Speaker 3: when I was raised telling my parents to shut up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've never done that.

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Speaker 3: I have never in my life told my mom or

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Speaker 3: dad to shut up in a serious manner. There was

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Speaker 3: one time my dad and I were joking around and

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Speaker 3: I accidentally went to shut up, and I stopped dead

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Speaker 3: in my tracks in fear because I was like, I

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Speaker 3: know those words aren't uttered, right, But I know parenting

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Speaker 3: is changing generation generationally?

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Speaker 2: Is that okay? Now? Is telling your parents to shut

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Speaker 2: up like a normal thing? Jack? Have your kids ever dared?

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Speaker 5: One kid did once? But yeah, no, that was not okay.

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Speaker 5: It did not go well, okay, kids, right?

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Speaker 3: I just I don't know if there's if that's a

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Speaker 3: shift that's happening where the way you talk to your

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Speaker 3: parents is changing. But the way that the mom didn't react,

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting there going what.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't take it in any tone, But was the

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Speaker 1: tone kind of like the valley go oh, shut up?

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Speaker 2: No, they were they were having a serious cone.

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Speaker 5: Wow, shut your pie hole.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that certainly would not have washed in my house.

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Speaker 4: I think one of the kids may have tried it

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Speaker 4: long is a generation? They usually say twenty years Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think, okay, well all right then, well, at least

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Speaker 4: my oldest kid in your youngest kid. I raised my

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Speaker 4: kids during the previous generation, which is kind of funny.

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Speaker 5: Shut up still is not fly with anybody I know.

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Speaker 5: I don't think.

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Speaker 4: If it does, you need to take a parent in class.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Like Kevin Hart's got a bit where he's talking

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Speaker 1: about how it turns out he was mistaken but he

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Speaker 1: thought his kid he was yelling down to his kid

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Speaker 1: to do something, and he thought his kid yelled fu

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Speaker 1: He's like what what?

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Speaker 5: What just happened here?

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Speaker 1: And the crowd just goes berserk about the idea of

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Speaker 1: happy to hear, but that was just like roundly seen

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Speaker 1: That is not okay. How is he going to react

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Speaker 1: something like that. But yeah, no, shut up is not

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Speaker 3: Okay, that brings me some comfort because the kid, the

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Speaker 2: But the fact that the mom I mean she just

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, that I feel bad for both of them

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I remember back when I was raising my kids and

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Speaker 4: would talk about it on the air, and people would

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Speaker 5: What I thought, And.

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Speaker 4: A number of times I thought, my first piece of

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Speaker 4: how do I undo fourteen years of getting it wrong?

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Speaker 4: And yeah, you know, it's like after your fifth heart attack,

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Speaker 5: You know, Well, it's you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I came across a great thing on parenting that

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Speaker 4: kids were young. Jonah Goldberg actually wrote it. He's quoting

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Speaker 4: a bunch of other people, but he's talking about how

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Speaker 4: there's a new book by a developmental psychologist who had

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Speaker 4: never heard of before, Alison Kropnik. But the name of

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Speaker 4: the book is The Gardener and the Carpenter, and she

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Speaker 4: points out that the very word parenting really only emerged

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Speaker 4: because until the fifties, people generally lived in their hometown

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Speaker 4: everybody's there to help, and you didn't have to learn

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Speaker 5: It was self evident.

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Speaker 4: You saw it all the time, and your mentors were

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Speaker 4: more isolated, more mobile, they moved away and that sort

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Speaker 4: of thing, and you had these parenting experts pop up, and.

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Speaker 5: Often with no kids or bad kids.

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Speaker 4: Right, that's right, Yeah, yeah, there's plenty of that too.

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Speaker 4: But missus Gropnick point says that parents began to think

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Speaker 4: like carpenters, who have a clear idea in mind of

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Speaker 4: materials they have to work with, and it's their job

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Speaker 4: to assemble those materials into a finished project. The project

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Speaker 4: or product that can be judged by everyone against clear standards.

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Speaker 4: Are the right angles, perfect, does the door work? Gropnik

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Speaker 4: notes that the messiness and veriability are a carpenter's enemies.

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Speaker 4: Precision and control are her allies. Measure twice, cut once,

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Speaker 4: et cetera and her thing, and I've got to admit

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Speaker 4: I don't want to get too deep into the because

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Speaker 4: it's incredibly serious and will make me very sad. But

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Speaker 4: I was influenced by a calmness to his a so

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Speaker 4: carpenter school. And when I ran into a kid with

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Speaker 4: special needs, specifically on the autism spectrum, that was the

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Speaker 4: last thing I needed. The last thing I needed was

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Speaker 4: a carpenter's point of view about parenting.

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Speaker 5: And MS.

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Speaker 4: Gropnik's thing here and I haven't read the book. Is

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Speaker 4: a better way to think about child wearing is as

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Speaker 4: a gardener. Your job is to create a protected and

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Speaker 4: nurturing space for plants to flourish. It takes work, but

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Speaker 4: you don't have to be a perfectionist. Weed the garden,

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Speaker 4: water it, step back, and the plants will do their

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Speaker 4: things unpredictably and often with delightful surprises. And it's not

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Speaker 4: like a hippie dippy. Anything goes. She's talking about weeding

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Speaker 5: But you're not a carpenter or a gardener.

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Speaker 6: What exactly is the carpenter's way. I don't know what

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Speaker 6: you're talking about as far as the carpent.

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Speaker 1: Would it be fair to say, it's just like, there's

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Speaker 4: Essentially, Yeah, it's cut and dried. There are a list

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Speaker 4: of rules. You follow him, it'll be fine. As opposed

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Speaker 4: to a garden, where it's much more about nurturing than

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Speaker 4: forcing that it's absolutely inevitably going to go sideways at times.

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Speaker 4: If you're a good carpenter, it doesn't go sideways. You

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Speaker 4: can make cabinet after cabinet after cabinet, and if a

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Speaker 4: Whereas as a gardener, something's always going to go wrong.

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Speaker 4: That's what the job is, and you have to adapt.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I could say to your situation you overheard, Katie,

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Speaker 1: because I've kind of lived this myself, is I've got

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Speaker 1: said and done things that if his brother did them,

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Speaker 3: Possibly, I don't even think of that possible circumstance that

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Speaker 2: You know that that all could have had that problem.

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Speaker 4: Final bit of wisdom learned too late, at least partially,

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Speaker 4: is when I first became a youth sports coach. I

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Speaker 5: You coach all of your players the way they need

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Speaker 4: Some kids respond well to like the old school disciplined

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Speaker 4: and you're not going to make him a better player

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Speaker 4: how to pick their locks. And parenting's a lot like

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Speaker 4: that too. If you think it's as mathematical and cut

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Speaker 1: So how did how did the things turn out with

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Speaker 3: They went back and forth for like maybe another thirty seconds,

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Speaker 3: that conversation pretty much.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it shocked me.

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Speaker 3: But I like that gardening analogy because that makes more

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Speaker 3: sense that you're going to have more room to kind

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Speaker 3: of wiggle when things go awry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know about that mom dealing with her kid,

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Speaker 1: but like, I only think about my parenting roughly eighty

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Speaker 5: Time all day long. So yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Now that's not to say there are no rules in gardening.

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Speaker 4: For instance, if you feed gatorade to plants, they will die,

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Speaker 4: as outlined hilariously in the classic movie slash documentary Idiocracy.

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Speaker 4: All right, of course that it wasn't gatorade. It was

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Speaker 4: called what Brono Brondo or Electrolytes, That's got Electrolytes.

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Speaker 7: Jack Armstrong and Joe the Armstrong.

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Speaker 2: And Getty Show.

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Speaker 5: I came across this.

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Speaker 4: Parable and I'm not exactly sure what to think about it.

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Speaker 4: I think I know what to think, but I thought

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Speaker 4: it was entertaining. The donkey told the tiger, the grass

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Speaker 4: is blue. The tiger replied, no, the grass is green.

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Speaker 4: The discussion became heated, and the two decided to submit

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Speaker 4: the issue to arbitration. So they approached the lion, who

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Speaker 4: apparently is in charge, of course, King of the jungle,

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Speaker 4: King of the beasts. Sure, donkey, donkeys and lions coabitating,

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Speaker 4: all right, and getting in arguments with tigers anyway. As

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Speaker 4: they approached the lion on his throne, the donkey started screaming.

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Speaker 5: Yours your it is. Isn't it true that grass is blue?

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Speaker 4: The lion replied, if you believe it is true, the

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Speaker 4: grass is blue. The donkey rushed forward and continued, the

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Speaker 4: tiger disagrees with me. He contradicts me and annoys me.

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Speaker 4: They should have thrown it. It's a microaggression. Please please

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Speaker 5: Movies go she's putting up posters. Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 1: I've only become aware recently, and for reasons I won't

442
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Speaker 1: get into about how all you need is somebody. If

443
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: you have somebody's phone number, for instance, you can find

444
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: out everything and it costs you like a buck online,

445
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: and you got every place they've ever lived, every phone

446
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 1: they've ever had, all their friends, it's family members. Yeah,

447
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 1: it's it's horrifying. I mean, it's less worrisome as a dude,

448
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: but man, if I'm a young woman knowing that any

449
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: guy who gets a hold of my phone number at

450
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Speaker 1: all now knows where I live and where my friends

451
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Speaker 1: live and where I work and and everything, it's just, yeah,

452
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Speaker 1: it's just different world for that sort of thing.

453
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Speaker 5: Of course.

454
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Speaker 1: On the other hand, buddy of mine pointing this out

455
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Speaker 1: to me their day, and remember when we were younger,

456
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Speaker 1: all of our names were in the phone book with

457
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Speaker 1: our address, all of us, all of us. If you

458
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Speaker 1: knew somebody's name, you could look up their address. And

459
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: it's not like everybody got abducted every day, right, everybody's

460
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: name was in the phone book with their address. Did

461
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Speaker 1: the unlisted thing come later? Is that now unlisted existed,

462
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Speaker 1: but I never knew a girl that was unlisted.

463
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Speaker 5: Every girl she was writing the phone book. Okay, yeah,

464
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Speaker 5: real rarity.

465
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Speaker 4: Getting back to the whole meeting mom book class book

466
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Speaker 4: club happened to randomly mention I was single and subterfuge.

467
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Speaker 4: That just that, that is a willingness to be sneaky

468
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Speaker 4: and duplicitous. That isn't her first rodeo, you know what

469
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Speaker 4: I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I think we're a little bit into the

471
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Speaker 1: modern attitude where everybody's so paranoid of what would you

472
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Speaker 1: rather run into a bear or a man in the

473
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Speaker 1: woods for a woman?

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Speaker 5: I mean, just you saying?

475
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Speaker 1: Was that before unlisted was available, like you wouldn't want

476
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Speaker 1: your name listed in the phone everybody had their address

477
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Speaker 1: the name in the phone book, and everybody was fine

478
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Speaker 1: with it, and everybody wasn't paranoid thinking, oh my god,

479
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Speaker 1: that's dangerous.

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Speaker 5: A guy could look up my address. It worked out.

481
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Speaker 1: I mean, so is culture that much worse or are

482
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Speaker 1: we just way more paranoid than we Well?

483
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Speaker 4: I would point out that if I had the hots

484
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Speaker 4: for Jenny Smith, or even unless her name was true,

485
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Speaker 4: her last name was truly rare and distinctive. There'd be

486
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Speaker 4: eleven of them in the phone book. I couldn't tell

487
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Speaker 4: which one. That was my experience at all, because I

488
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Speaker 4: lived in small towns. Everybody everybody's name. There was only

489
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Speaker 4: one Jenny Smith in every town. Everybody's address was right there.

490
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Speaker 4: And I don't remember anybody abusing it, or anybody even

491
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Speaker 4: talking about it being abused.

492
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Speaker 5: No, nope.

493
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Speaker 1: So what changed our parent the reality of stalkers or

494
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Speaker 1: our paranoia.

495
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Speaker 5: Both? I don't know. People aren't brave anymore.

496
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Speaker 6: They don't want to just go and ask something, ask

497
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Speaker 6: someone out right in person, you know, just hey, would

498
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 6: you like to go out?

499
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Speaker 2: Would you like to get some coffee?

500
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Speaker 4: That's like old skills take developing, though, and we're not

501
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 4: letting our kids develop those social skills. I had chatted

502
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 4: up so many girls by the time I started college.

503
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 4: Just the idea of oh my god, I can't I

504
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 4: can't say hello to or.

505
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Speaker 5: It was just foreign to me.

506
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 4: It was not like I have some sort of bold

507
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 4: master gamesman or anything. It was just so familiar to me.

508
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 4: You know, hey, how you doing well?

509
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Speaker 5: Please?

510
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 2: Phones and internet have completely smashed that skill.

511
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Speaker 4: I think, you know, this is a weird grab, but

512
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 4: it popped in my head for some reason, I can't

513
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Speaker 4: remember why. The other day I was thinking about the

514
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 4: old like the first Bob Seeger song with the what

515
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Speaker 4: was the name of his band, Bob Seger and.

516
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Speaker 5: The Silber bullibin No.

517
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Speaker 4: No, that was before he was a solo artist, when

518
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Speaker 4: he was a Detroit rocker, but a rambling, gambling MANU

519
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 4: the line is ain't good looking, but you know, I

520
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 4: ain't shy, ain't afraid to look a girl in the eye.

521
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 4: And hey, I've always kind of liked that line because

522
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Speaker 4: he was a regular guy. But b we've got a

523
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Speaker 4: couple of generations who are terrified to look a girl

524
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Speaker 4: in the eye and say, hey, how you doing.

525
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 5: So that gets back. Do you think.

526
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Speaker 1: If she she found him alluring enough to go through

527
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: all that work, she should have made her move right then?

528
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's equipped with the tools to do that. Of course, if.

529
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 4: You're an all attractive young woman, all you have to

530
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 4: say is so I see you like cereal.

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Speaker 2: That's good enough ice breaker right there, exactly.

532
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

533
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Speaker 3: I just I have a real issue with her going

534
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Speaker 3: on a date with him after having done all of

535
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Speaker 3: this and acting like it didn't go down like that.

536
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well yeah, like, oh, we just.

537
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Speaker 3: So happened to meet I met your mom at book club.

538
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 3: Like the whole the star of whatever relationship this might

539
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: be is going to be bs anyway.

540
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a decent point there. You can't start

541
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: with a lie and then go from there.

542
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, this ends with a dead cat trust Yeah, if.

543
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: You if you uh yeah, if you're out with somebody

544
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: and everything like that, and then she mentions, yeah, I

545
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: was talking to your mom. Wait a second, and you

546
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: know my mom? Why do you know my mom? This

547
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: is weird.

548
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 3: Okay, well let me tell you how this went down.

549
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 3: So I saw your credit card at the store. I

550
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: enjoy the book club that your mom is in. You're

551
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Speaker 3: a twenty three year old woman. You're in a book

552
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Speaker 3: club with a bunch of sixty four year olds.

553
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Speaker 5: Why I like to read.

554
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: Pretending you want to read the Bridges of Madison County

555
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: so you can get to meet this old woman.

556
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 5: That is going too far.

557
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Speaker 7: Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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Speaker 1: My son, who's fourteen and graduating from eighth grade.

561
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Speaker 5: This week graduating.

562
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Speaker 1: So he actually asked, why do they have eighth grade graduation? Well,

563
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Speaker 1: I don't know the real answer, but where I grew up,

564
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: I thought it was because a lot of people stopped

565
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Speaker 1: going to school at eighth grade. There was a good

566
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Speaker 1: chunk of the class that or a particular religion, the Mennonites,

567
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Speaker 1: they stopped at eighth grade. So I thought that's why

568
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: we had eighth grade graduation because they were done. But

569
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Speaker 1: then found out they have eighth grade graduations other places.

570
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: So why does eighth grade graduation exist?

571
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Speaker 4: You know, I've I actually heard a really interesting argument

572
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 4: about this once, where the one point of view was, hey,

573
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Speaker 4: they've finished a level of school. Let's say and let's

574
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Speaker 4: show them, Hey, education is important. We're proud of you,

575
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 4: a good job. Let's reinforce wanting to stay in school

576
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 4: and pass everything, which I think is a perfectly reasonable

577
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 4: point of view. The opposition was a woman who was saying,

578
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 4: they haven't accomplished anything. They're getting the very basics of

579
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 4: education their kids. They've got several more years of mandatory schooling.

580
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 4: They haven't accomplished anything. They barely gotten started quit with

581
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: the ceremonies. Too many ceremonies.

582
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Speaker 2: I lean more towards that point of view.

583
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Speaker 4: But anything that would less than the number of ceremonies

584
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Speaker 4: I have to go to, I'm in favor of.

585
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,239
Speaker 3: Yes, my mom has a picture of my Is it

586
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: my kindergarten graduation or my preschool graduation? I don't remember it.

587
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: I'm wearing a robe. I know she had to buy

588
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: a robe. Yeah, I have a little green graduation cap

589
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: and robe. And they took pictures that she obviously paid

590
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Speaker 3: for because we have it.

591
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking, you've got money sucked out of that.

592
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah we did.

593
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Speaker 1: We had to do kindergarten graduation and there was like

594
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Speaker 1: a certificate and stuff. But I don't think there was

595
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Speaker 1: no robe involved.

596
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Speaker 4: But you know, I hate to blame the gals for this,

597
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 4: but it reminds me of little seven year old kids

598
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 4: in full uniform playing Little League and they have opening

599
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 4: ceremonies and closing ceremonies every season, and the parade of

600
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 4: the teams and lots of pictures.

601
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Speaker 5: And the rest of it.

602
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 4: Back in the day, you just went and played ball.

603
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 4: There's no opening ceremony. What the hell do you have

604
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 4: an opening ceremony. First game of the year is on Saturday,

605
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 4: go play it. That was the opening ceremony, play ball.

606
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Speaker 1: So my eighth grader has the graduation is actually on Thursday,

607
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Speaker 1: and you're supposed to wear a tie, So we have

608
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Speaker 1: to go out and get a tie at some point

609
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: this week. He's gonna wear my shirt and my pants

610
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: because we're the same size. Oh, and it's gonna be hot. Uh,

611
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: he can't wear my shoes because he has bigger feet

612
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: than me. But so I have to get him some

613
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Speaker 1: dress shoes and a tie. And it is gonna be hot.

614
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: But the night before there's a big dance, the very

615
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Speaker 1: first dance of his life.

616
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Speaker 5: Oh boy.

617
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Speaker 1: And he said the other day, I sure hope there's

618
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Speaker 1: chairs because I plan to sit.

619
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Speaker 3: It's so funny the difference between guys and gals with

620
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: this one, Like I was so excited and you want

621
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Speaker 3: to share to sit?

622
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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I know I know that that's true. I'm

623
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: sure the girls are very very excited. I was gonna

624
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: talk I haven't talked to him about that. I hint

625
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: it ab, but I was gonna talk to him specifically

626
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: about and I haven't completely crafted it into my head yet.

627
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Speaker 1: And it probably won't do any good anyway, cause it's

628
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: different when you're fourteen than when you're older and looking

629
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Speaker 1: back on being fourteen, but man, oh man, oh man,

630
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Speaker 1: there's so many things that I chickened out of or

631
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: kind of wish I had done or whatever. You only

632
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: live once. You only freaking live once. That girl over there,

633
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: you kind of like, go ask her to dance? Good, God,

634
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: I gotta figure out how I want to present it.

635
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: Not like that, but I mean, looking at talking to

636
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Speaker 1: my eighth grade me, I mean, just life is short.

637
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, one go round. Yeah, here's here's what.

638
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 4: You gotta do. Maybe I'll offer this service. I'll come

639
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 4: over with half a dozen middle school young ladies, have

640
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 4: your boy ask each one of them to dance, and

641
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 4: each one of them will say thanks, but no, I'm

642
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 4: not interested. And by the end of maybe we'll even

643
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 4: do two rounds. By the end of it, that kid'll

644
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 4: be like, that's fine whatever.

645
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: Oh they just get used to get it, used to

646
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: be rejected a couple of times, or they might be

647
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: completely demoralized.

648
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Speaker 4: But uh no, maybe have that thirteenth one say yeah,

649
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 4: I'd love to.

650
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Speaker 5: Did you ask so Mandy to dance?

651
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Speaker 6: Michael yeah, I think I did. I usually got rejected,

652
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 6: so it's okay.

653
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 5: I didn't ask anybody to dance.

654
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: Somebody asked me to dance for the last slow dance

655
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Speaker 1: of the night, and I've never been more nervous in

656
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Speaker 1: my life. I can still feel the sweat running down

657
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: my armpits as we were slow dancing. I was so

658
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: nervous and scared.

659
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Speaker 5: But why wouldn't you?

660
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Speaker 1: I mean, and I kind of wanted to dance, but

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Speaker 1: I was scared at one of being rejected and two

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Speaker 1: of dancing in front of other peace people. It's just God,

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Speaker 1: when you get older, it just seems like, why would

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Speaker 1: you freaking care? But that's just the perspective of age.

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Speaker 1: You can't you know, you can't inject that into someone.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and dances are so small in our lives now.

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Speaker 3: It's such a big thing to them, right.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, of course it is.

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Speaker 1: And I'm you know, so on one hand, I don't

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Speaker 1: know about his friends, but it's probably true for his

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Speaker 1: friends too. On one hand, he's I hope they have

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Speaker 1: chairs there. I might bring my own camping chair just

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Speaker 1: so I make sure possessed it.

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Speaker 5: But he has.

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Speaker 1: Uh, we got a haircut two weeks ago, and he

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Speaker 1: wasn't quite happy with that, so we went and got

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Speaker 1: another haircut, and uh, you know, he's been picking out

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Speaker 1: his clothes. So I mean, you wouldn't get two haircuts

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Speaker 1: and pick out your clothes and all this sort of

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Speaker 1: stuff if you didn't care at all. So you care,

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Speaker 1: but you just don't want to look like you care,

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Speaker 1: because I'm sure none of your friends are looking like

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Speaker 1: they care. As the boys again, as the girls you get,

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Speaker 1: you can be as thrilled as you want to be.

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Speaker 5: Lots of exclamation points if.

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Speaker 4: Your Yeah, I played the records at the dances I

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Speaker 4: did in middle school. I volunteered for that. I think

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Speaker 4: it's one of the reasons I became a musician. If

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Speaker 4: I'm playing, you can't ask me to dance. I'm all

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Speaker 4: the high school dances. I was the DJ, which kind

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Speaker 4: of got me out of it. I got to be there,

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Speaker 4: but I had a job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh yeah, so I don't know. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: try to craft some sort of go for it type

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Speaker 1: speech see how it lands. But I can just think

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Speaker 1: of several examples of like why why didn't you, Why

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Speaker 1: didn't you do this? Why didn't you do that? There's

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Speaker 1: no downside. The worst case scenario is nothing. The well,

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Speaker 1: actually a worst case scenario is not doing anything and

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Speaker 1: then wishing the rest of your life you.

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Speaker 5: Would have tried. So yeah, hear here. So that'said.

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Speaker 1: He bought a fake rolex off of Amazon. He totally cares.

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Speaker 1: He totally cares. He does cool to not care, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: he cares. He bought this fake rolex. It's forty dollars

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Speaker 1: and it's so shockingly great. I mean it's really really good.

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Speaker 1: It's like really heavy and nice and yeah, very cool.

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Speaker 1: I think you may be admitted to a federal offense.

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Speaker 4: Harboring a known importer of repbove the counterfeit Goods got

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Speaker 4: it off Amazon.

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