1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive John with Ashlyn Sullims with John Oshans, 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: Brian Sexty. Jacks Drive and starts right now. Literally a 3 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: lot of open discussion on where our weaknesses is are, 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: where our opponents weaknesses might be, and where the strength 5 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: saw and how do we develop it uh and turn 6 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: it into really a winning film. Now. That open discussion 7 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: is with Jaguars owner Shod Khan, head coach Doug Peterson, 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: and general manager Trent and Bulky. You can see that 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: interview fully with John Osier later on this afternoon on 10 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com. They are all at the NFL Owners 11 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: meetings this week in Palm Beach. We will get to 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: John Osier live from there shortly. I woke up this morning, Brian, 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: and it is crazy that we are a month away 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: from the NFL Draft. Yeah, a month from last night 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: is the the thirty day mark. It comes fast now. 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: It used to be a drug, right, But the season 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: doesn't even get over now until early February, right, and 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: then you have free agency that kicks into high gear. 19 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: And this year it was crazier than ever. I mean, 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: I haven't even read that much or seen that much 21 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: from Pro days just because there's been so much now 22 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: the owners meetings are a major media event. It just 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: it brings the whole just squeezes the whole calendar. It 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: seems like you never get away from the NFL, which 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: is exactly by the way, how they want it. Absolutely 26 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: a lot going on, especially this week as we go 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: live to Palm Beach right now with the third member 28 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: of our show, John Osier, is live from there. Hi, 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: John lan Brian, how are you doing. I I was 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: gonna be I was gonna do this by the pool 31 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: with my sunglasses on, but I decided to save you 32 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: guys that visual how about that? Yeah? That would be 33 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: very much too in your face? All right, John, We 34 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: just saw that exclusive interview with Jaguar's owner shot Com. 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: What was the biggest takeaway from your sit down with him? Well, 36 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: probably what we use there for the top. He really 37 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: liked the vibe in the building between uh Trent Balky 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: and Doug Peterson and the the collaboration I think was 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: the word he used at the communication, A good uh. 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: He talked a lot about eventually in the performance center, 41 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: which he talked about having much more open communication, open 42 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: floor plans, open offices where people can collaborate. Uh, it's 43 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: a big thing for him. He he kept mentioning that 44 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: he's owned the team ten years, been to a lot 45 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: of these owners meetings, his level of experience has gone up, 46 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: but he really hasn't felt that sort of interactive vibe before. Uh, 47 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: and he thinks it's gonna make a difference. So the 48 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: other takeaway was he talked a lot about the performance 49 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: center and talked about how that is a very needed step. 50 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: I guess that's supposed to open next offseason before next See, 51 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: he's clearly excited about it, and UH thinks that's a 52 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: symbolic step with the future of the franchise. You Know, 53 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: the vibe that I got watching it was that he 54 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: was calm John and last year never felt calm. That was, 55 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: you know, because of the coach he brought from college, 56 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: because of the way that they dramatically reshaped the coaching 57 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: staff and increased it. It feels like he's calm because 58 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: he knows that he's gotten the right guy, a professional 59 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: football coach with a recent track record of success. Well, 60 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: he sure got a calm guy. So I think that 61 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: sort of permeates everything in the building. You guys certainly 62 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: feel it I feel it when I'm at t I Bankfield. 63 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: There's just a feeling that Doug Peterson. Um. You know, 64 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: I've never been in a crisis meeting with Doug, but 65 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: to get the idea that if Doug sit mind his 66 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: desk and three people walk in and two people are 67 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: talking over here and it's hey, we gotta do this, 68 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: that Doug just says, Hey, you know I've seen this before. 69 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: This is probably what's gonna happen. Let's move on, let's 70 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: calm down, and let's get back to football. Um. So 71 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: I think that I'm sure when Doug is speaking the 72 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: Shot about the team and about issues and about things 73 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: they need to do, I'm sure that comes across which 74 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: when Shots talking about the team, I'm sure he channels 75 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: that a little bit. Hey, Hey, the hey coach feels 76 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 1: this way. There's good communication to be the head coach 77 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: and general manager, Trent Balky and Doug. You know, you 78 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: can't walk anywhere without seeing those guys together in Palm Beach. 79 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: So I think that is what's causing Shot to have 80 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 1: that have that vibe when he talked to us yesterday 81 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: with the break, you know, in that same vein read 82 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: the story like I'm sure you did too. That this 83 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: team spent more money than the Patriots did last year 84 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: in free agency, and the Patriots last year set a 85 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: record for the amount of guaranteed money in a single 86 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: free agent signing period. We're number one. But it doesn't 87 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel again, it doesn't feel like they 88 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: were jumping in and just throwing cash. And I know 89 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: one's gonna bring up Christian Kirk, but throwing cash like 90 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: drunken sailors around give us anyone we could get again 91 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: in that calm. Vane and Doug talked about it during 92 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: the coaches conference. They've got a plan and they've got 93 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: an approach that says, these guys help us get better. 94 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: And so we're not gonna get too high or too 95 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: low about the guys that we've signed. We just think 96 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: we did the right thing. Yeah, it's interesting when you 97 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: talk to national guys, you know, Oh, the Jaguars are 98 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: spending money, you know. But I think that's sort of 99 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: a surface reaction to it. I think the people who 100 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: really looked at the national people talked to you, who 101 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: really looked at what they signed. So hey, wait a minute, 102 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: these guys all make sense. Uh, They spent a lot 103 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: of money on, you know, not necessarily the flash names, 104 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: which Brian I like. After being around this forever, I 105 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 1: can care less about a guy's name and fre agency. 106 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: At this point, I've seen big names crap out. I've 107 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: seen him do great, So I don't know if they're 108 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: a good football player. The vibe around the owners meetings 109 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: is they got a lot of good football player. Is 110 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: who are going to fit? Um? I asked I pondering 111 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: the interview, I said, Hey, I don't know if you 112 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: realize this or not that you wrote a lot of 113 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: checks last month. He kind of cut me off, and 114 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't not happy about the checks. He said, hey, 115 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm glad to write him. All I want to know 116 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: from my football people is why these guys will make 117 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: us better? And as we mentioned on reporters yesterday, guys 118 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: he's always done that. There's this reputation sometimes among Jaguars 119 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: fans o Shod won't do this, won't do that because 120 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: they haven't won. He's open to that criticism. He gets that, 121 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: but the reality is he's always been willing to spend. 122 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: It's just a matter of always spending on the right people. Well, 123 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: here's where it really where where the rubber will meet 124 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: the road. In the next two years, the cap takes 125 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: a dramatic jump forward based on projected revenues from television 126 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: and obviously the way gambling is coming in. If this 127 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: team is not setting the record in the next couple 128 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: of years, when there will be an abundance of money 129 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: to spend, then they're headed in the right direction. This 130 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: this you would think, you if Trent Bulky's words from 131 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: when he joined us a couple of weeks ago are 132 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: to be believed, and I certainly do. The Jaguars don't 133 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: want to be that team again, and this is the 134 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 1: first step towards not being that. Even though it seems counterintuitive. Yeah, 135 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: I think they will get back to a point where Okay, 136 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: Trent even said I think it was on our show 137 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: after free agency that next year is a little tighter 138 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: than this year, just because of the way contracts work, 139 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: the way money kicks into the guys they signed, etcetera. 140 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: But you know, most gms, even the gms for the 141 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: Rams and the really aggressive teams, will tell you that 142 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: ideally they want to to draft well and develop and 143 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: then add pieces around. I expect the Jaguars want to 144 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: do the same thing, and when the timing is right, 145 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: go for one big piece that matters very much. They 146 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: can put you over the top and not go after 147 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: seven five million and pay your own guys. Yeah, and 148 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: that's what Doug Peterson mentioned yesterday. We were watching it 149 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: live on Jaguars dot com and John, I know you 150 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: were there. I thought it was kind of honest and 151 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: pretty funny when Doug Peterson said, yeah, we spent money, 152 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: we signed seven guys. Do I want to do that 153 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: every year? No, but they really don't have a choice 154 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: this year. You have to get better quickly and this 155 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: is the mold they have to follow, right and now, 156 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: as you mentioned draft and draft, well here is so 157 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: that in another couple of years you were writing those 158 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: big eye opening checks like the packers have right for 159 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: their own guys exactly, And that really came across when 160 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: Doug was talking of you know, obviously, you know, I 161 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: use a fairly normal situation, said the Jaguars fans has 162 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: seen it too often for their own team. New people 163 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: come in, they want to make sure they have their 164 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: own guys. They want to raise the level of talent 165 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: because usually when new people come in Doug Peterson Trent 166 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: Balky because because the team hasn't been very good, So 167 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson's coming into a situation where they've lost, so 168 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: you need to be aggressive. You need to get holes 169 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: filled and get to a certain level and then draft 170 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: maintain that level and then improved from that as Trevor 171 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: Lawrence gets better. And that's still the whole key John, 172 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: one more for you before we let you go enjoy 173 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: Peanut Coladas by the pool. Note Notable to me was 174 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: when Don Peterson was talking about Cam Robinson and that 175 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: was really the first time he's addressed the need to 176 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: bring Cam Robinson back and needing that consistency at left tackle. 177 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: And he also I thought it was awesome when they 178 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: talked about Travis e t and in the role he 179 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: was going to have, and he kind of just smirked 180 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: and said, we'll see it's truthful. I almost forgot about 181 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: Travis et and for him to say, hey, he's coming 182 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: back on the field in a matter of a month, 183 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: that was exciting. Yeah, and they're still a storyline there 184 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: to play with both running backs where their health is 185 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: is they get back and you know that's still going 186 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: to be a storyline to watch. They're excited about Travis 187 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: c t and let's hope he's right. No reason to 188 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: think he's not that Liz Frank can be serious. Back 189 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: to your question, Nashal, all right, as as we get 190 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: more of these availabilities, it's usually what happens when you've 191 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: got a position group like the offensive line. We're getting 192 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: more of a feel for what the offensive line is, 193 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: how it's going to play out. Um, they keep talking 194 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: about getting Cam signed to a contract extension. I'm gonna 195 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: be intrigued to see if that happens, if he's indeed 196 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: their guy going forward for the next four or five years. 197 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: They also talked yesterday about Juwan Taylor and Walker Little 198 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: pretty I mean uh, I say they Doug talked about 199 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: him pretty clear that they expect that to be a competition. 200 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: They like both guys, and it's mentioning to see how 201 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: that plays out. On the other side, says, slowly but 202 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: surely they're figuring out and and we're getting signs of 203 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: what that offensive line is gonna be. Now, the question 204 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: to me is, is Tyler Shatley the guy at center? 205 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: I hope so. For Tyler's sake, I like him. I 206 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: want to see him get a shot. Just a thought 207 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: by the way on Cam. I talked to someone on 208 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: the other side of the hall, and the thought on 209 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: him is they believe that the last two years he's 210 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: done this and that he has gotten better. Even though 211 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: there have been moments where you're like, yeah, same old Cam, 212 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: that's not the way they view him. So whether or 213 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: not they can get a deal done with him remains 214 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: to be seen. But they want to because they think 215 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: he is an ascending player and and if if he is, 216 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: then what a great draft in Yeah, and don't underestimate 217 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: how much football people loved Cam because he's a guy 218 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: who wants it. He's who fights for teammates. He's a 219 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: great teammate. Uh fits in well so. Uh he loves 220 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: the game. And Trent Balky talked about that a couple 221 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: of weeks back to this is a guy who shows 222 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: are how much he cares about it. Uh. They want 223 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: Cam Robinson to be around. We'll see, yeah, And Coach 224 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: Peterson said it yesterday as a whole, it's hard to 225 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: find left tackles that play at a high level in 226 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: this leek, so when you have them, you gotta pamp 227 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: so waitis all right? John Os your thank you for 228 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: joining Jaguars Drive Time, even though you're here every week. 229 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Live from Palm Beach, go enjoy the pool. 230 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: Kind sir, WHOA When we come back on Jaguars Drive Time, 231 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: former defensive end for the Eagles, a guy that knows 232 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: coach Peterson very well, Chris Long will join us here 233 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network, which signed seven guys right, 234 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: and seven guys that can help us. You know this year. 235 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: I don't think you want to go into free agency 236 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: signing seven guys every year. I don't think that's the model. Uh. 237 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: And now we have the draft coming up that we 238 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: can also help and uh, you know with twelve draft picks, 239 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: bringing more of that talent, bringing war depth, bringing war 240 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: competition is what you want. With the guys we signed 241 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: are going to be impact players, you know right away. 242 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: I love the honesty they're from head coach Doug Peterson. 243 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: Eta owners meetings. You can catch the full press conference 244 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot com. We're back on Jaguars Drive Time. 245 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: Brian Sexton will be back shortly. For now, we bring 246 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: in a guy that knows Coach Peterson incredibly well, Chris Long, 247 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: former Eagles defensive end, joins us. Now, good morning, and 248 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: thanks for waking up with us. Hey, good morning. How 249 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: are y'all? We are great? All right. So we are 250 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: starting to get to know coach Peterson. He has been 251 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: here a couple of months and everyone we talked to is, wow, 252 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 1: he is such a great guy. But I know you 253 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: might see a different side of him. Is he has 254 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: good of a guy As everyone tells us. Coach is 255 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: an incredible guy. He's the type of guy that, honestly, 256 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: I always tell people this, he can kind of, you know, 257 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: pick his battles as a coach um and players will 258 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: go to the wall for him because he works you hard, 259 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: but you don't even realize it half the time because 260 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: you're having fun. It's competitive, and he treats you like 261 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: an equal. I mean, he was a former player. I 262 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: was on some of his leadership councils and some of 263 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: the things that he did behind closed doors where he 264 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: involved the players and looped them in on decisions and 265 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. And I think a lot of 266 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: times pro coaches their egos are a little too big, 267 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: or they don't want to bend to players. And I 268 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: think Doug walked that line really well, still running a 269 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: tough program, working us hard, but also like having enough 270 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: fund so that it balanced out. And I know that 271 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: you were pretty vocal when coach Peterson left Philadelphia, and 272 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: I read your tweets, but your said he's gonna get 273 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: another shot soon. So when he got this shot here 274 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, what was your reaction? It felt like a 275 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: great fit. You know. Um, I think he can do 276 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: a lot for for Trevor. Um. I think he can 277 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: do a lot for kind of the the vibe of 278 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: a team. He's kind of the opposite of the situation 279 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: that y'all are emerging from. I mean, he's he's the 280 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: type of guy that you know, players are absolutely gonna 281 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: universally love, and he's gonna be a really competent guy 282 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: who's been there, done that on the pro level. Uh, 283 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, he's won a Super Bowl. He stabilized the 284 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: locker room in tough situations, Like you know, I know, 285 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of crazy stuff that goes on on 286 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: teams that that struggle. UM, And I've been on teams 287 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: that struggle. I've been in situations like the Jaguars weld 288 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: last year. I mean, I played most of my career 289 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: in St. Louis, So I feel like I'm pretty qualified 290 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: to say like the type of guy that could could 291 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: help a situation like that, And I think Doug is 292 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: the perfect guy from an energy standpoint, a confident standpoint, um, 293 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: just the you know, kind of the the stones to 294 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: make the right calls, the bowl calls. I mean, he's 295 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: done that in Super Bowls. And you know, our team 296 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: had a lot of ups and downs over those couple 297 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: of years, and he helped us navigate all those waters. 298 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: I mean we lost Carson Wentz in l A and 299 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: went on the road and won a Super Bowl. Um, 300 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: you know the next couple of weeks. So, Um, he's 301 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: a great coach and he's seen it all. I feel like, 302 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: just in a short tenure and Philly relatively speaking, Yeah, 303 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned a guy that's been there and done that, 304 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: that consistency, and we keep bringing up a Super Bowl 305 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: champion coach here in Jacksonville. What does that do for 306 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: a locker room? I mean, you've been in a locker 307 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: room for many, many years. When you have a Super 308 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: Bowl champion in there as a coach doesn't mean anything. 309 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: Does it do anything? I think it does. I only 310 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: say that because when I got to the Eagles, and 311 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: when la Garrett Blunt got to the Eagles and a 312 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: couple of us have won a Super Bowl, people really 313 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: give you credibility, whether that's warranted or not. As a player, Um, 314 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: you know, people are always asking, you know, what the 315 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: what can we do better? What are the keys to 316 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: getting there? The whole thing? Um. And I think when 317 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: you have a coach who's won it, he oversaw that 318 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: whole operation. So you know, it's it's infinitely more impressive 319 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: to be a Super Bowl head coach because like you 320 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: were the one who had to manage and you know, 321 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: preside over all fifty three people in the roster, all 322 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: three phases of football. Um. You know, it's one thing 323 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: to have player experience winning a Super Bowl, but I 324 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: think a coach that wins the Super Bowl, especially in 325 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: the fashion that we did, having to win games a 326 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: bunch of different ways. I mean, we we beat the 327 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: Raiders I think like thirteen seven or something to to 328 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: secure home field advantage. Um, we beat the Rams on 329 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: the road in a high scoring game. You know, we 330 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: we scored forty points basically two weeks in a row 331 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: through the NFC Championship in the Super Bowl, and that's 332 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: what it took to win. And we also want a 333 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: low scoring game again start about. We also want a 334 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: low scoring game against the Falcons in the playoffs. So 335 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: he's won every different way. Um, his experience as a 336 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: coach through that playoff run is such a huge thing 337 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: when it comes to the locker room and giving a 338 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: coach cloud incredibility. And Chris, you played in the NFL 339 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: alt for eleven seasons, so you have so much knowledge 340 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: about this game and so many connections. That's why I 341 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: think your podcast, the green Light podcast is so cool. 342 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: Is that something you always wanted to do when you 343 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: got out of football, you said, all right, I'm still 344 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: gonna stay in touch this way. It's funny. I was 345 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: talking to somebody last week that was on our show 346 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: about this. I can't remember who, but it's basically I was. 347 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: I was on Michael Irvan's podcast and he was like, 348 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: what do you think about podcasts and the kind of 349 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: same thing because he started a podcast, and I said, like, Michael, 350 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: we did. We did some of the best podcasts in 351 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: the world for eleven years or nineteen years ever long 352 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: like we just did them. And there were no cameras 353 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: and there were no you know, recordings. I think, I 354 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: think for football players, it's so natural for us to 355 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: do something like this as long as it's conversational and 356 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: it focuses on like, you know, fun, interesting conversations. I mean, 357 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: that's what we had in locker rooms for the longest time. 358 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: So it's kind of a whole new grind from a 359 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: kind of like a standpoint of being responsible for a 360 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: staff and produced in a show. But I love just 361 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: having a conversation. So when I come to work in 362 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: the morning, if we're prepared, it doesn't feel like work. 363 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: I love it well through the fans watching, check out 364 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: the green Light podcast. It is an awesome listening. Chris Long, 365 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining Jaguars Drive Time. Thank 366 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: you all for having me go go Coach Doug absolutely, 367 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: thank you so much. When we come back on Jaguars 368 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: Drive Time, NFL Network draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah joins the 369 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: show stay with us. Travis will be able to work 370 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: a little bit this offseason with us get into this 371 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: more you know, football drill work. James will be a 372 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: little more into training camp before we get him. Um. 373 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: But though it's it's a really good one to kind 374 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: of a one to combination. Um. There's not a lot 375 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: of tape on Travis, right, but just listening to the 376 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: guy like Bernie Parmley, my running back coach, listening to 377 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: him talk about Travis and some of the things that 378 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: that they did with him, you know, last year at camp. 379 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: I think there's some things that we see in him 380 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: as an offensive staff. James is a guy that can first, second, 381 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: or third down. Um. You know, he's explosive, he's it's 382 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: a bigger back. You know, had had a really good 383 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: season last year. So I think it's a really good 384 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: one too. Combination went to win. Healthy exciting news for 385 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: running backs. Travis e ten to get back on the 386 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: field here in just about a month. It's something we've 387 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: been waiting for absolutely well. And I think a lot 388 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: of us have been very cautious with it because we 389 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: remember Corey Grant and what happened at the same injury 390 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: in Kansas City. To hear that he's making progress, okay, Um, 391 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: and then with James Robinson, you know, that's the other 392 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: injury that generally takes a running back and shortens their career. 393 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: But speed was never his game anyway, So if you 394 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: get him back around the time training camp goes, you 395 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: might be a really good shape. I still think you 396 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: probably draft somebody fingers crossed. A perfect guy to talk 397 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: about the draft is joining us right now. Daniel Jeremiah 398 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: from NFL Network NFL Draft analyst joins Jaguars Drive time 399 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: right now. Daniel, good morning. How's it going, how's everybody doing? 400 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: Are doing fantastic? And we have to know we were 401 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: talking at the combine and offensive lineman. We're dominating the 402 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: conversation now. Cam Robinson is franchise tag. So what do 403 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: you think right now for the number one overall pick 404 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars? Could they even trade it back? There 405 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: are so many options. Yeah, there are definitely options here. 406 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: You know, I think the trade back thing would be 407 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: kind of dependent on everyone being convinced that the Lions 408 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: were going to take a quarterback. Um, you know that 409 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: maybe you could try and nudge the Carolina Panthers potentially 410 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: to come up. I guess that's one scenario you could 411 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: look at. But outside of that, I mean, to me, 412 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: if they're stuck there and they're picking there, all the 413 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: signs to me point towards an edge rusher and all 414 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: the signs make the most sense to me. With Aidan Hutchinson, 415 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: I just think, you know, I think he's the best 416 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: player in the draft. Personally, I think it's a POSI 417 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: should of need. I don't have any questions of what 418 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: he does on the field. You see the production, Um, 419 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: he's got a variety of ways to get to the quarterback. 420 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: He can play the run, so he's a complete player. 421 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: And then off the field, everything that you know you 422 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: hear about from a leadership standpoint is off the charts. 423 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: So that to me is is where all the signs 424 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: of point. And you know, I've used this analogy to me, 425 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: it's just your parking that ball right in the middle 426 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: of the fairway with a guy like eight hudgets. You 427 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: know Daniel when I watched him in Michigan, and I 428 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: know comparisons are tough to make, but he had a J. J. 429 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: Watt kind of impact on the game. It didn't matter 430 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: where they put him, it didn't matter whether it was 431 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: the run of the past. He just had this distinct 432 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: ability to make a play on the ball. Who who 433 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: does he look like to you in terms of an 434 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: NFL player? Yeah, you know, it's hard to come up 435 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: with the comparison for him. Um, you know, there's been 436 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: so many different names that have been thrown out there. 437 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: I guess the one that I kind of fall back 438 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: on most is Jared Allen. And you know, I always 439 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: laugh because you get grief like, oh, just comparing the 440 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: white defensive vent of the others white defensive ends. Um, 441 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: but he that's who reminds me of just from a 442 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: standpoint of tenacious. I was talking to somebody who was 443 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: at his pro day, one one of the coaches that 444 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: helped kind of run him through the drills, and said, 445 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: this guy's this guy has got a limitless uh tank. 446 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: You know, like you try and gas defensive linemen out 447 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: because a lot of times you get sacks. Like the 448 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: difference between uh, you know, somebody who gets eight sacks 449 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: and somebody who gets fourteen sacks is really it's really 450 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: not that much. What it is. It's those guys, those 451 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: extra sacks, those extra six sacks. A lot of times 452 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: they're just off persistence and effort and there's just no 453 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: slow down to this dude at all. So with the J. J. 454 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: Watt comparison that you made with with Jared Allen, that's 455 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: what those guys did. They made a living on that. 456 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: So is there any smoke or any fire I should say? 457 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: Or is it all smoke with with Trayvon Walker climbing 458 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: and does he belong in the conversation at the top 459 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: of the draft or is that just a rising player? 460 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: Uh in your estimation. I was joking with the buddy 461 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: in the league this morning about this because I love 462 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker and I've I've got him all the way 463 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: up to my sixth player. Um. I feel like I've been, 464 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, kind of driving the bus a little bit 465 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: on him and trying to tell people that this dude's 466 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: gonna go way up there and he's a really good player. 467 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: I remember my first or gosh, one of my first 468 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: mock drafts. I had him going five to the Giants 469 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: before the combine, and the Giants fans lost their minds. 470 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: There's no way this guy can go up there with 471 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: the fifth overall pick. And I'm like, no, no, he's 472 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: pretty good now, um. And so now he's he's launched 473 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: himself all the way up into the discussion for the 474 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: first overall pick. Um, I couldn't. I as much as 475 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: I love him, he's my sixth player. I couldn't justify 476 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: that over Aidan Hutchinson just because I know what I'm 477 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: buying with Aidan Hutchinson. There is some projection still there 478 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: with Walker, but in terms of doing your due diligence, 479 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: doing your homework and him, you know, being the discussion 480 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: with that pick, Yeah, I think that's I think that's reasonable, 481 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: all right. And what is going on with safety Kyle 482 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: Hamilton's both of our colleagues, Buckie Brooks always talks about him, 483 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: says he's one of the most talented, if not the 484 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: most talented player in the draft. And all of a sudden, 485 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: I'm seeing he's falling rapidly. Is that dramatic? Is that 486 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: actually happening? What is going on with this guy? Yeah? 487 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know that he'd say he's falling dramatically, 488 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: but I would say in this day and age right now, 489 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: it's it's a position that's not his valued league wide. 490 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: I don't agree with it. I mean, he's my fourth 491 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: overall player in this draft. Um, But when you add 492 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: in the fact that teams aren't is uh you know, 493 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: aren't is high on the position, and then you go 494 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: to the combine he ran a four or five nine, 495 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: which is okay time, but not you know, a top 496 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: ten pick type time. And then he went to the 497 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: Pro day and he ran in the four sevens. He 498 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: ran four seven four and four seven flat, which you're 499 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: not good times. So again I go back to the tape, 500 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: and you want to trust the tape, and I think 501 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a great player at the next level. 502 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: But if you're sitting here today on March twenty nine, 503 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: if you asked me, you had to decide one way 504 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: or the other. Is he going to, you know, in 505 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: the top ten or does he not going to top ten? 506 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: I I would say I think there's a good chance 507 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: he falls out of the top ten. So Daniel away 508 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: from the over the first overall pick on day one 509 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: to the first overall pick on day two at number 510 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: thirty three. Um, I'm a best player available guy, you 511 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: know if that's an offensive lineman. But I understand need. 512 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: Will the Jaguars have to take some of their draft capital. 513 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: They have twelve picks, they have two third round picks 514 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: and move back into the bottom of the first round 515 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: to get a receiver or should they stay right there 516 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: and there will be somebody, Well, I think you got 517 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: to kind of let it play out a little bit. 518 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: If if we end up with, you know, two guys 519 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: going in the top ten, and then you start to 520 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 1: see a couple more go off early in the teams, 521 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: then you know, you probably a little jumpy because I 522 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: think there is kind of a little bit of a 523 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: cut off there. I have eight guys in my in 524 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: my top fiftieth receiver position, but I think there's a 525 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: little bit of a drop off after those first I 526 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: think five guys that I have. So if you want 527 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: one of those guys, yeah, I think you might have 528 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: to go up a little bit. If you're content with 529 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: sticking and picking, you know, you can get a Christian Watson, 530 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: who I really from from North Dakota State. You can 531 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: get a Sky More it's a really good player out 532 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: of the macum. But if you want one of those 533 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: top guys, I think you've got to kind of see 534 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: how this plays out. The best thing that could happen 535 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: to them would be, you know, these quarterbacks go off 536 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: a little bit higher than we think, and that would 537 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: push everybody down a little bit, including those white outs. 538 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely a need at wide receiver. Daniel Jeremiah, thank you 539 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: so much for joining Jaguars Drive Time. We appreciate your time, 540 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: all right, have a great day, absolutely you as well. 541 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: More to come on Jack's Drive Time, stay with us. 542 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: It's hard to find really really good left tackles on 543 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: this week, um, and we'd been like camp, it's one 544 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: of those good tackles, and uh, we're just fortunate to 545 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: be able to, you know, franchise him, keep him, keep 546 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: him here, hopefully work out a long term deal with him, 547 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: so he's around more than just a year. Um. But 548 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: but keeping that and knowing his experience and knowing his expertise, really, man, 549 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: is easy for us to kick Brown coach Doug Peterson 550 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: on why the Jaguars franchise tag Cam Robinson will come 551 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: back to Jaguars Drive Time one more segment for you 552 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: and Brian I liked the honesty at the very end 553 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: of that quote. He said with offensive line. Though we're 554 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: not done yet. Oh no, yeah, no, no no. And 555 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: and if you recall Brandon Linder, who was an eight 556 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: year starter here was a third round pick. Um, Aja 557 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: Can was a third round pick. You you can find value. 558 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: And Ben Barge played well last year. He was a 559 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: fourth round pick. You know. The interesting thing is Walker 560 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: Little is a tackle. I don't think Walker Little's guard right. 561 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: You get him over on the right side if he 562 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: wins that competition. And I've said this for a while now, 563 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor to me, I think could be a Pro 564 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: Bowl guard. You know, inside, I think he's a Mahler. 565 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: Can Ben Bart's play center? Right him? And he played 566 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: left tackle? He's played guard? Can he play center? Can 567 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: Can he be the future at center? Maybe not this year, 568 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: may be that's Tyler Shatley, but you groom him to 569 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: be the next guy and then go draft another guard 570 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: to come in with depth. I think Joan Taylor is 571 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: a good football player. I think Walker Little is a 572 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: really good football player. If you don't deploy them in 573 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: a way that gives you the best possible combination, that 574 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: you don't have your best players on the field right. 575 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: Walk a Little belongs on the field this year. Joan 576 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: Taylor belongs on the field this year. I think you 577 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: could dramatically improve this offensive line if Walker Little wins 578 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: the right tackle job. That is going to be a 579 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: fascinating to be fun battle in training. Now, Joan Taylor 580 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: wants to hold onto because tackles make more than guards, 581 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: but Brandon Church his best interest to Brandon Schurch is 582 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: doing pretty good. Yes. Yes. We asked human Taylor at 583 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: the very end of the season and someone brought up, 584 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, moving to guard, and he said, well, I'm 585 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: a I'm a right tackle absolutely, and that's the perfect 586 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: answer he needed to say that. Well, that's because that's 587 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: gonna make it interesting if you're making seventeen million dollars 588 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: a year playing guard, because you're a damn good guard, 589 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: asked Brandon Sure, what seventeen million bank account? Yeah. I 590 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't worry about the position you played. Just get on 591 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: the field and win. All right, let's talk quarterbacks. This 592 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: was a very cool. One of my friends, Mark Whiteman, 593 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: is the sports director up in South Carolina, and he 594 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: shot this package from Trevor Lawrence and his youth football camp, 595 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: and he texted me saying, you're not going to believe this. 596 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: There were fifteen hundred kids at Trevor Lawrence's first youth 597 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: football camp and he said, Ashlyn, I've never seen a 598 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: police presence at this football camp, but it was needed 599 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: because they didn't want to shy any kids away. Kids. 600 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: He's an absolute star. Crazy. We knew that when he 601 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: came down. Uh, he was dealt a tough hand last 602 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: year with a roster that was in reconstruction and a 603 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 1: coach who didn't have a clue how to coach him 604 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: and get him ready. Um, now he has got it. 605 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: And if you're Trevor Lawrence right and you see what's 606 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: capable of happening here. You see the money that the 607 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: owner has committed in free agency, You see the staff 608 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: that Doug Peterson has built. You see your buddy Travis E. 609 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: T N coming back. You have to feel really good 610 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: about where this thing is headed. You see the construction 611 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: with the performance quickly right, Um, everything is changing for 612 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: the better around here. And that calm presence of Doug 613 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: Peterson it has to make Trevor Lawrence as excited today 614 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: as he was last year. And that's a do over, 615 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: right And what's the commercial staples with the easy button, 616 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: the reset button? He got it? Who gets that? Yeah? 617 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: And he briefly you mentioned excitement. He briefly talked about 618 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: the upcoming season at this youth football camp. So let's 619 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: see what he had to say. Obviously last year was 620 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: it was a long year, and um, he's got a 621 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: lot to get better. At and now that we know 622 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: where we're at and picking up some guys will help 623 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: us a lot. And just excited. We got a lot 624 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: of good guys on that team. And then you know, 625 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: the new staff has been awesome to him. So I'm 626 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: really pumped this year and excited. Cool to just see 627 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: a guy that gets an ensuing it right and look 628 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: to have him healthy to not have suffered an injury. Um, 629 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: and he took a beating at times last year, but 630 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: to be healthy heading into the offseason and not rehabbing 631 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: something and slowing him down with his new staff, I'm 632 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: telling you, um, the easy button, the reset button. They 633 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: got it, They got it did, and that is Jaguars 634 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: Drive Time. Thank you for tuning into this show. Stay 635 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: with us on Jaguars dot com all week long. A 636 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: lot going on. We are one month away from the 637 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Crazy enough to stay with us here on 638 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com. We'll see you soon.