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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we've had

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Speaker 1: more than enough tricks this year. Frankly, it's been one

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Speaker 1: long spooky season since January twentieth, so we're sticking with

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Speaker 1: treats tonight and none of that fun size shit. We

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Speaker 1: deserve the big bars this year. It's Friday, October thirty.

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Speaker 1: First Happy Halloween slices on today's show. Will be bringing

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Speaker 1: you a panel I hosted at the espnW Summit this

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Speaker 1: week featuring Alana Class, the CEO of Billy Jean King Enterprises,

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Speaker 1: Kara Nortman, the managing partner of Monarch Collective and co

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Speaker 1: founder of Angels CITYFC, and Fielding Jamison, the co founder

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Speaker 2: We discussed investing.

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Speaker 1: In women's sports, the power of mentorship, the challenges of

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Speaker 1: inviting more women to sit at the table, plus planned chaos.

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Speaker 1: The status quo is nearly upon us, and winter is coming.

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Speaker 1: It's all coming up right after this Welcome Back slices.

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Speaker 1: Here's what you need to know today. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: the NWSL where the end of the regular season has arrived.

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Speaker 1: Decision Day is upon US On Sunday, all fourteen teams

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Speaker 2: Kicking off at the same time.

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Speaker 1: There is one game, the Kansas City Current and San

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Speaker 1: In soccer, it's actually a tradition for every Decision Day

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Speaker 1: As that early casey San Diego game will be broadcast

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Speaker 1: Both San Diego and Portland, for example, have already clinched

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Speaker 1: And even more important than seeding is just getting in racing.

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Speaker 1: Louisville and the North Carolina Courage will be playing for

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Speaker 1: ESPN will air boat that CAC San Diego game plus

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Speaker 2: More soccer.

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Speaker 1: The US women's national team concluded its international window with

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Speaker 1: The US women's national team will reconvene in a month

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Speaker 2: To the WNBA and.

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Speaker 1: WELP, it's October thirty first, but as of this recording

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Speaker 1: Well, On Tuesday, the WNBA offered w players a thirty

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Speaker 1: Ben Pickman lays it all out in a story for

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Speaker 1: and receive medical benefits. Pickman goes on to explain, quote,

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Speaker 1: We'll link to Ben's story in the show notes More hoops.

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Speaker 1: Candice Parker was elected to join the Women's Basketball Hall

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Speaker 1: During her legendary career, Parker led Tennessee to back to

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Speaker 1: The class will be inducted in June twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: fifty Athletes Unlimited Softball League games each year, and ABC

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Speaker 1: ESPNU or ESPN Plus. To tennis, the WTA Finals get

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Speaker 1: Winter Olympics. The twenty twenty six Mala Cortina Games officially

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Speaker 1: You might hear in my voice that I had a

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Speaker 1: big week here in Ohi, California for the espnW summit.

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Speaker 1: It was another fantastic few days of panels featuring big

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Speaker 3: All of that visibility, all of that energy.

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Speaker 4: It's led to a place that very few athletes period,

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Speaker 1: panel on investment.

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Speaker 1: This is the Women at the Helm panel, and these

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Speaker 1: It's fielding Jamison up Next, she is a pioneering leader

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Speaker 7: It's Alana Claus.

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Speaker 1: Finally, she's the managing partner of Monarch Collective, the first

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Speaker 1: NYA Graham Lover and Burning Man Alum, It's Karen Nortman.

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Speaker 1: Well, And I think it's super important because to Alana's

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Speaker 4: Look, we at tiped invest in what we call the

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Speaker 4: We're like, not sure about that, right, this is pre

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Speaker 1: of information that the media industrial complex should be telling

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Speaker 1: us about women every day and only tell us about men?

441
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Speaker 1: And how does that get people to keep coming back

442
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Speaker 1: and buying merchant, showing up to games and so shoulder programming,

443
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Speaker 1: pre and post game content, websites, shows, podcasts, those are

444
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Speaker 1: all really important to drive people to the things that

445
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Speaker 1: they're putting their money in. So for you, where else

446
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Speaker 1: do you see and want to invest that you think

447
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Speaker 1: needs to grow along with the investment in the leagues.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, we love the media and content space. I spent

449
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Speaker 4: years of my career Comcast NBC Universal. I think media

450
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Speaker 4: is incredibly critical to the growth of women's sports. So

451
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Speaker 4: that is certainly an area we are very excited about,

452
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Speaker 4: both on the traditional side as well as the new

453
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Speaker 4: side of media. So looking at YouTube for example, and

454
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Speaker 4: the growth that we're seeing there, and we're looking at

455
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Speaker 4: you Jen Alpha and Jen Beta, which kind of stinks

456
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Speaker 4: Ghos Jen Beta I've co compared to Jen Alphai.

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Speaker 7: I don't have enough problems with young men.

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Speaker 3: We have a whole bunch of other gen Betata.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's a thing, and so that's an area

460
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Speaker 4: that we like a lot. But as we look at

461
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Speaker 4: the you know, women's sports space grow all the way

462
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Speaker 4: from the youth to the pro, we also need to

463
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Speaker 4: make sure that those athletes have the right gear, for example,

464
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Speaker 4: that are made for them right. We invested in the

465
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Speaker 4: first soccer cleave made for the women's foot, the first

466
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Speaker 4: soccer clean I'm sure a lot of people grew up

467
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Speaker 4: here playing cleated sports.

468
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Speaker 3: You thought you were buying shoes that were made for

469
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Speaker 3: your foot. You're not.

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Speaker 4: And so we invest in a company, I to Sports,

471
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Speaker 4: that created the first cleave for women's soccer. And so

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Speaker 4: that's that's a really exciting space performance. I played lacrosse.

473
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Speaker 4: We've got women who are playing in men's pads now

474
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Speaker 4: because they pads, but the pets don't fit, so.

475
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Speaker 3: They're cutting them and tailoring them.

476
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Speaker 4: And so we're still at the very beginning of this

477
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Speaker 4: in terms of the growth and the dollars. And while

478
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Speaker 4: we love all of the dollars going in at the

479
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Speaker 4: league and team level. We also need to make sure

480
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Speaker 4: that we are investing in the ecosystem around it so

481
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Speaker 4: those leagues and teams can continue to be successful and

482
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Speaker 4: have what they need both from an athlete operator, fan, parent,

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Speaker 4: youth player experience.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Sarah, the one thing I want to say about media.

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Speaker 5: I think there are a lot of.

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Speaker 10: Agents, leagues, team owners here and I think all the

487
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Speaker 10: new outlets are phenomenal, including your podcast. But I would

488
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Speaker 10: just really encourage anyone who connects to athletes to encourage

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Speaker 10: them to do media because everyone else can tell your story,

490
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Speaker 10: but only you can tell your story in a way

491
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Speaker 10: that is super authentic. So you really want to be

492
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Speaker 10: talking to the media in ouraday. The media we're our friends.

493
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Speaker 10: If they didn't tell our story, nobody knew what we

494
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Speaker 10: were doing. That's changed a lot, and everybody has their

495
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Speaker 10: own platform, but please encourage athletes to tell their own

496
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Speaker 10: story and look at the media as people who are

497
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Speaker 10: going to help grow grow the space.

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Speaker 7: I think that a huge leasure in women's sports.

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Speaker 1: There's unfortunately we had to be cheerleaders for so long

500
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Speaker 1: that now when critics arrive, there is this acrimonious relationship

501
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Speaker 1: that shouldn't be there. Correct, As long as the journalists

502
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Speaker 1: are being fair, there will be criticism in sport.

503
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Speaker 7: That's how sport works.

504
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Speaker 1: But you can work with journalists to tell your story

505
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Speaker 1: and to be fair about how you're playing, whether it's

506
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Speaker 1: god or bad on a given day, if they're fair

507
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Speaker 1: about it. You know, Car, You've talked about how when

508
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Speaker 1: you got started in the tech world there were really

509
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Speaker 1: no mentors like Ilana and Billy Jean. Why did that

510
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Speaker 1: matter and how do you feel differently about your role

511
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Speaker 1: now as there are more women coming into this investment

512
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Speaker 1: in women's sports space.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I mean so, first of all, I

514
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Speaker 9: also was a D one athlete and had no idea

515
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Speaker 9: that I had Alana and Billy to thank for it.

516
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Speaker 9: And you know how many women here played a sport

517
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Speaker 9: in high school or college Like raise your hand, right,

518
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Speaker 9: I mean, so the stats all show how critically important.

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Speaker 9: So I did have mentors, but it was like my

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Speaker 9: crew coach, who I'm still close to and still coaches

521
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Speaker 9: at Princeton tied with Cornell for sure. Yeah, for sure,

522
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Speaker 9: it's more about at least for me, I mean, because

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Speaker 9: I definitely had some incredible male mentors.

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Speaker 11: But I mean, here's the like.

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Speaker 9: I think it's more about, like, can you see yourself

526
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Speaker 9: in the world. For me, I was always looking for

527
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Speaker 9: actually Angel Cities. Maybe the first time, I was like,

528
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Speaker 9: there is no example, and I had we had to

529
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Speaker 9: sort of like figure out how to get our first

530
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Speaker 9: nine hundred thousand dollars because there was no example. But

531
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Speaker 9: I was always looking at like is there someone like

532
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Speaker 9: me to know I could do it? And like the

533
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Speaker 9: weird example I would give you is when I was

534
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Speaker 9: an analyst at Morgan Stanley straight out of college.

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Speaker 11: I would read the style section of the New York Times.

536
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Speaker 11: That's not weird but clearly, but I.

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Speaker 9: Would read the wedding section to see if women like

538
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Speaker 9: me got married because I was a total workaholic. I

539
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Speaker 9: loved doing what I do, and I like would read

540
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Speaker 9: it looking for examples. And so I think it's more

541
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Speaker 9: like you know what we say at Angel City, and

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Speaker 9: it resonates as strongly with fourteen year old boys as

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Speaker 9: it does with fourteen year old girls, And I think

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Speaker 9: that surprises their parents. My fourteen year old son wants

545
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Speaker 9: to have his birthday party at Angel City. It like

546
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Speaker 9: blows their mind. You meet your biases in women's sports,

547
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Speaker 9: we all have them. But I think what I think

548
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 9: about is I never grew up thinking I even dreaming

549
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Speaker 9: it was possible to be president of the United States

550
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Speaker 9: or a professional athlete. I didn't even allow my and

551
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Speaker 9: I have a pretty strong growth mindset. And now every now, now,

552
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Speaker 9: with what we have politically and with what we have

553
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Speaker 9: in professional sports, every young girl gets to grow up

554
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Speaker 9: with that dream, and that dream isn't as important for

555
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Speaker 9: where they get.

556
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Speaker 5: There, but for how broadly they're.

557
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Speaker 11: Going to create their dreams for the rest of their lives.

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Speaker 9: And with Julian and Natalie, I got those role models.

559
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Speaker 9: They just happened to be my peers.

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Speaker 7: We're still working on that first one.

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Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I said, if there hadn't

562
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Speaker 1: been a female president by the time I got old enough,

563
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Speaker 1: I would step up and let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Sarah, take care. Are you making a political.

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Speaker 7: I'll be Sarah's chief of staff.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

567
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Speaker 1: I used to think my deficiencies and finance and geography

568
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Speaker 1: were a problem, but now I'm well aware.

569
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Speaker 7: You don't need to know shit about anything high. It's

570
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Speaker 7: shoving on.

571
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Speaker 3: Alana.

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Speaker 7: Your mentors were all men. You had to know the

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Speaker 7: right people.

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Speaker 1: You had to be in the right rooms, you had

575
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Speaker 1: to create the right relationships, You had to get enough

576
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Speaker 1: power and influence before you could try to change things

577
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Speaker 1: if you saw things that weren't the way you wanted

578
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Speaker 1: them to be. How have you and billaging as a

579
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Speaker 1: team sort of figured out how to work with folks

580
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Speaker 1: who have different principles or values, because I think there

581
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Speaker 1: is a little bit of that now too, where you

582
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Speaker 1: got to get the right people to be on board,

583
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Speaker 1: but they're not always aligned politically, culturally, socially.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Well, I mean I think also just to follow up

586
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Speaker 10: on what Caro said, you do have to see it

587
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Speaker 10: to be it. And so a lot of the things

588
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Speaker 10: that I think Billy, Gina and I get behind are really,

589
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Speaker 10: you know, showing the world that anybody can be what

590
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Speaker 10: they want to be and every little girl should be

591
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Speaker 10: able to have the same dreams as their brothers. So

592
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Speaker 10: that's just a basic principle I think for us. Interestingly enough,

593
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Speaker 10: whenever we go to a meeting or we're meeting somebody

594
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Speaker 10: knew our first question is do you have daughters? And

595
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Speaker 10: we always had much greater success if the CEO for

596
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Speaker 10: who for the most part was a white male had

597
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Speaker 10: a daughter because he understood that you know, maybe he

598
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 10: would want the same opportunities for his daughters as he

599
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 10: would for his son. And I think for us, you know,

600
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Speaker 10: the investment is one thing, but their purpose and passion

601
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Speaker 10: has to align. And it's difficult because when you're young,

602
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Speaker 10: if someone offers you money and you don't have money,

603
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Speaker 10: it's hard to say no. But I think with experience

604
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 10: and wisdom, now you know, we're able to say, you

605
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 10: know what, this isn't the right fit if it doesn't

606
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Speaker 10: really align with our values, which always are about equal

607
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Speaker 10: access and opportunity. But it does have to be seen

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Speaker 10: from the scope of business, and that's critical because I

609
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Speaker 10: think for Billy Jean, a lot of people don't realize

610
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Speaker 10: that she invested as an owner and a business person

611
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Speaker 10: from day one. I mean, when there weren't tournaments to play,

612
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Speaker 10: she and her former husband Larry King, not that Larry King,

613
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Speaker 10: for those you know, there was no where to play

614
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Speaker 10: and so they had to build the infrastructure. So I

615
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 10: think for us now it's really about taking our knowledge

616
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Speaker 10: and visibility to really putting in true investment, and then

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Speaker 10: how can we make sure that our investments you know,

618
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Speaker 10: have impact globally and can also scale.

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Speaker 4: Can I tag onto that? Because I think what's so

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Speaker 4: exciting for us is because of that work. For so long,

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Speaker 4: we've been in a space where we have been convincing

622
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Speaker 4: people that women should get this investment, that women's sports matter,

623
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Speaker 4: that things like this matter. And Al hit on it

624
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Speaker 4: earlier last night when she said we are here, we

625
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 4: are done, like, we don't need to convince anyone. And

626
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Speaker 4: I think that's been really free for me as we

627
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Speaker 4: think about investors and LPs to say, I don't need

628
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Speaker 4: to get on the phone and convince you of this space. Now,

629
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Speaker 4: I need to convince you of our strategy. I need

630
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Speaker 4: you to convince convince you that we're the right people

631
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Speaker 4: to do this in our background, but in terms of

632
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Speaker 4: women's role in the sport economy, we now have the data,

633
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Speaker 4: we now have the facts, and at that point, if

634
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Speaker 4: we're on a call and we're starting to hear a

635
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Speaker 4: lot of negativity, we'll just end the call and say, listen,

636
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Speaker 4: you know sounds like it's not for you, thanks so much.

637
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Speaker 3: And when you hit back with that, then.

638
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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, everyone's like, well, WHOA, I didn't

639
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Speaker 4: say that now like I'm interested, right, But and so

640
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Speaker 4: that's been interesting. But I think that that's a really

641
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Speaker 4: nice it's because of all of this work that has

642
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Speaker 4: gone in that we're now at that point, which is,

643
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Speaker 4: you know, a tipping point and a play on what

644
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Speaker 4: we called our fund even because we're finally there and

645
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Speaker 4: we're not in that convincing game anymore.

646
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Speaker 1: Well, in fielding, I know you talk about how important

647
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Speaker 1: it is for you to look around and find women

648
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Speaker 1: who have not yet invested or don't feel comfortable in

649
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Speaker 1: the space and welcoming the men. What are you doing

650
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Speaker 1: to make it so that more women and are willing

651
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Speaker 1: to do what some consider a risk or to take

652
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Speaker 1: on the risky behavior of.

653
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Speaker 7: Putting your money somewhere and seeing if it flies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely.

655
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Speaker 4: First thing we do is we do not speak in acronyms.

656
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Speaker 4: I think that that can often be very intimidating in

657
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Speaker 4: the finance world.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, you're welcome, and I thank you forgetting that

659
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Speaker 7: P and L was products and licensing like five years ago.

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Speaker 4: It's like P and L are iderator, you know, and

661
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Speaker 4: it's and I think sometimes you don't have that training,

662
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 4: you immediately feel like, oh, this person really like knows

663
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Speaker 4: what they're talking about, and women tend to retreat a

664
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Speaker 4: little bit. So that has been a major point that

665
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Speaker 4: we make with any LP that we meet or potential

666
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Speaker 4: investor we meet with, and and look, we really try

667
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Speaker 4: to explain to them like, this is not scary, this

668
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Speaker 4: is not hard. You're a very competent person or woman,

669
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Speaker 4: and let us talk to you about how you can

670
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Speaker 4: think about your portfolio of investing and the idea that

671
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Speaker 4: you can what is good can live alongside what is profitable.

672
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Speaker 4: I stole that line from Billions, and I think that

673
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 4: that is so true, right, you can you don't have

674
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 4: to feel bad about making money, and you can invest

675
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Speaker 4: in a space that you inherently understand that you know

676
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Speaker 4: that you get excited about.

677
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Speaker 3: And so we're saying, come on learn.

678
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 4: We meet with our investors, the amount of investors that

679
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Speaker 4: we meet with on a weekly basis, to walk them

680
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Speaker 4: through how we think about an investment, to walk them

681
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Speaker 4: through our fund structure, to really like have them learn

682
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Speaker 4: and feel like they're a part of it.

683
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Speaker 3: And that's I think different than normal venture capital.

684
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Speaker 4: When we got started, we asked a male person in

685
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Speaker 4: the space, like you know, we took him through our pitch,

686
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Speaker 4: and he was like, you know, you should absolutely take

687
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Speaker 4: out the part that you want your investors to be

688
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 4: part of this, like you don't ever want to hear

689
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Speaker 4: from your investors. And we're like, this is where women

690
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 4: just do it differently. We do, and why wouldn't we

691
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Speaker 4: lean on those experiences that they've had and that's been

692
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Speaker 4: super beneficial for us?

693
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Speaker 11: Can I jump in with a quick point? I totally agree.

694
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Speaker 9: I think the one thing that's interesting about sports versus

695
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Speaker 9: where I used to like exist in like cybersecurity and

696
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 9: deep tech stuff is that everyone comes into sports thinking

697
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Speaker 9: they're an expert, or at least thinking they can grasp

698
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Speaker 9: it pretty quickly.

699
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Speaker 7: Every man, well.

700
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Speaker 9: Everyone, right, Like it's it's the nice thing about sports, right,

701
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Speaker 9: I mean, like anyone can grasp it fairly quickly at

702
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Speaker 9: a basic level. And so there may be so I think,

703
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Speaker 9: and now there's a lot of capital rushing into women's sports,

704
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Speaker 9: which is generally great, but I think actually it's like

705
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Speaker 9: it's looking it's like anything, right, It's like, how do

706
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Speaker 9: you become a virtuoso athlete who plays in the WNBA

707
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Speaker 9: or wins doubles titles?

708
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Speaker 11: You're really really, really good.

709
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Speaker 9: And so like understanding really kind of the strategy and

710
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Speaker 9: the discipline around what that particular investor is particularly good at.

711
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Speaker 9: I mean at Monarch, we are the first pool of capital.

712
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Speaker 9: We are operational in the hands on but we also

713
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Speaker 9: have been doing it way before it was cool and

714
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Speaker 9: with exceptional ten X people, And so what we've gotten

715
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Speaker 9: to do is we're the first call and we try.

716
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Speaker 11: To help every everyone and educate everyone.

717
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Speaker 9: But what it also means is we don't We're very,

718
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Speaker 9: very thoughtful and have a very strict set of criteria

719
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Speaker 9: and narrow lens of where we invest to have impact

720
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Speaker 9: drive outcomes in a way where many people just kind

721
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Speaker 9: of settle for what falls on their lap versus being proactive,

722
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Speaker 9: thesis driven, stakeholder driven.

723
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Speaker 11: And I always like to say, it's really like, what are.

724
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Speaker 9: You dreaming about or what's waking you up at two

725
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Speaker 9: in the morning. And I think it's easy to think

726
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 9: you're good and we should settle for nothing less than great.

727
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Speaker 9: And I think women, you know, women will be disproportionately

728
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Speaker 9: great because we live and breathe it. But then none

729
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Speaker 9: of us would be here without great men who have

730
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Speaker 9: a different risk profile. As more and more women are

731
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Speaker 9: learning how to lean into it. And I learned that

732
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Speaker 9: from Alan and Billy.

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Speaker 11: I mean they were investor.

734
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Speaker 9: They are investors at Angel City and they are you know,

735
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Speaker 9: investors and advisors at Monarch.

736
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Speaker 11: And I have tell Alana all the time.

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Speaker 9: She doesn't realize how much like Teddy Roosevelt compete in

738
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Speaker 9: the arena you're in wisdom I get from Milana to

739
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Speaker 9: not be so idealistic that you know, people come along

740
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Speaker 9: when they come along, but if they write big checks

741
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Speaker 9: and they're decent humans, you take them.

742
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Speaker 1: Okay, we're running our time here, so I want to

743
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Speaker 1: do a quick speed round of a couple of things

744
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Speaker 1: I really want to get to. So a lot of

745
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Speaker 1: specific things you're looking at when you're diving deep into

746
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Speaker 1: the process.

747
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Speaker 7: What scares you away?

748
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Speaker 10: Nothing really scares me, you know, to be honest, because

749
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Speaker 10: I think you have to engage and have a conversation.

750
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Speaker 10: And I never look at it as failure. Always look

751
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 10: at it feedback. So for me, you know, build a relationship.

752
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 10: It might not work this time, your values might not

753
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 10: be aligned, but you never know what's going to happen

754
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Speaker 10: a few years down the road. So our culture at

755
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 10: Billy Jinking Enterprises is build relationships and always learn and

756
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Speaker 10: don't take anything personally.

757
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Speaker 5: It's feedback, it's not failure.

758
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Speaker 7: Yeah, fielding wire no is important.

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Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, you have to be able to say no.

760
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Speaker 3: I mean when we what about you.

761
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Speaker 1: Getting a know when you're trying to work with someone

762
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Speaker 1: and they're coming to you, what are are you getting

763
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Speaker 1: good reasons for their reticence to be involved?

764
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Speaker 4: Asking people for money is just an interesting game and

765
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: it can be really personal, and I think for us

766
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Speaker 4: we take that like, don't you know, don't take the

767
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Speaker 4: know as a negative, right, It's just feedback.

768
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Speaker 3: It's just not the time.

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Speaker 4: You just have to get really comfortable in the know

770
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Speaker 4: because for all those nos, and you're going to get

771
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Speaker 4: a great yes, right, so you kind of have to

772
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Speaker 4: kiss a lot of frogs sometimes to get to the

773
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Speaker 4: prince yes, yes, and you know. And so I think

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Speaker 4: that we just we do not take those nos personally

775
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Speaker 4: and we just have to shrug it off. And I

776
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Speaker 4: think being an athlete has really taught me the ability

777
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Speaker 4: to just stand up and go all right on to

778
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Speaker 4: the next and sometimes that's a back to back meeting.

779
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Speaker 5: For me, that's huge.

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Speaker 10: But the first thing the Lei Jean taught me which

781
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 10: I'll share with you. No means they just don't have

782
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Speaker 10: enough information.

783
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Speaker 7: So there we go.

784
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Speaker 10: Don't take a know as the end, take it as

785
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Speaker 10: the beginning of a relationship and trying to change things.

786
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Speaker 1: Cara, how does long term planning factor into your investments

787
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Speaker 1: when you're looking at a new opportunity, how far ahead

788
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: are you looking to make sure that it's worth your

789
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Speaker 1: time and money.

790
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Speaker 9: Well, we look at the most mature part of the ecosystem,

791
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 9: so we're looking to have real impact in the first

792
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 9: five years. But we're long term holders, so we believe

793
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 9: in the long term, you know, kind of accretion and

794
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 9: value creation. Everything we get involved in is are probably

795
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 9: things that you would want to have in your portfolio

796
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Speaker 9: for thirty years.

797
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Speaker 11: If you just look at like the NBA and the eighties, right,

798
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Speaker 11: you had tape delay.

799
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 9: The Celtics were half full when they won championships and

800
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 9: it fundamentally changed with players like their equivalent of Caitlin

801
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 9: Clark and Angel Rees, et cetera.

802
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 11: So we really look at.

803
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Speaker 9: Building real p and ls in real businesses, like the

804
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 9: way to get the world to pay attention is to

805
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 9: have commercial success with different kinds of people who also

806
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 9: will make different decisions, maybe even just on the margin.

807
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 9: Who they hire, how they're partnering with sponsors, you know,

808
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 9: are they doing something to activate community? But like, we

809
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 9: win by building big businesses with new kinds of people

810
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 9: who we want to make money for.

811
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Speaker 11: Like, that's how we win.

812
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: Okay, last question for all of you is somebody here

813
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: in this it's not a room field yard loan is

814
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: interested in getting involved in this, but isn't sure how

815
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: and where to start fielding.

816
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 7: What's your best advice? Come talk to me, Okay, give

817
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 7: her your money?

818
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Speaker 10: Okay, Alana, Well, we get a lot of calls, and

819
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Speaker 10: I've bet.

820
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Speaker 5: We're always willing to help.

821
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Speaker 10: I think the best thing that we have and have

822
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Speaker 10: built over the years is relationship capital, and so all

823
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Speaker 10: of you build it. But I encourage all of us

824
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Speaker 10: to help each other. Right, we all stand on the

825
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 10: shoulders of the generations that came before us, and we

826
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 10: need there's enough room for everyone at the table. But

827
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Speaker 10: we'll always take your call.

828
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Speaker 11: Everyone who's here is in sports.

829
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Speaker 9: So it's like, how do you get more involved and

830
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Speaker 9: how do you set yourself up for success? Having this

831
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 9: conversation here and makeup today? Look at what your superpower

832
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 9: is what is your zone of genius. And then in

833
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 9: the build relationships with people who will go the extra

834
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 9: mile to bring you into the best things and create

835
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 9: incentive structures that don't exist out there at the right time.

836
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Speaker 9: But don't try to be something you're not. Be who

837
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 9: you are, do it extraordinarily well and make like three

838
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 9: new friends who might actually be able to pay it

839
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Speaker 9: back to you. And I think, I mean it's and

840
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 9: then take risk when it comes. When Julie, Natalie and

841
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 9: I started Angel City, I thought it was crazy and

842
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 9: it took forever to get capital and we only got

843
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 9: it very little, less than a million dollars three weeks

844
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 9: before COVID, and no one had done what we had

845
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Speaker 9: done before, and we just stuck our head down and

846
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 9: just kind of kept.

847
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Speaker 11: Doing it more. It was very risky at the time.

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Speaker 9: That may happen for you, and everyone will tell you

849
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Speaker 9: it's a terrible idea, you know, and just like, lean

850
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 9: in and do it and don't be afraid to fail

851
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 9: if you really.

852
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: Believe in it, If you really believe in a lot

853
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: of times you got to be able know a lot

854
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: less about it than you do, and yet you give them.

855
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 9: Be obsessed over many many years. It's not just showing

856
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 9: up and tweeting and saying you've done something. It's like,

857
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 9: what have you actually done with your feet and your

858
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 9: sweat and the people over many years?

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Speaker 11: And that's due diligencible.

860
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Speaker 5: So do that and have passion.

861
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Speaker 10: Have what you do, I mean passion, And I think

862
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 10: sometimes taking the road less traveled is also okay. But

863
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 10: mentor everyone, let's try to lift everyone up up because

864
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Speaker 10: there's a lot of white space that's available for women

865
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Speaker 10: and you all deserve to be at the table.

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Speaker 9: And I want to give a shout out Angel City

867
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Speaker 9: team over there, right they made it happen. You know,

868
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Speaker 9: they're all everywhere now and still at Angel City. But

869
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Speaker 9: like find friends and community like that and keep them close.

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Speaker 1: You could tell these ladies have a lot to say,

871
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: so talk to them later, find them and ask them

872
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Speaker 1: for advice and ask them to get involved. Ask a

873
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: Fielding about Yale, ask Alana about South Africa, and ask

874
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: care about enneagrams.

875
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 11: Yeah, Anya gram seven, Thank you ladies.

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Speaker 5: A shout out to the very bit.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again to Alana, Kara and Fielding for taking the time.

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Speaker 1: We got to take another break when we come back.

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Speaker 1: A Phishtail.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Back.

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Speaker 1: Slaics wanted to follow up on the continued fallout from

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Speaker 1: Angel City player Elizabeth Eddies op ed in The New

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Speaker 1: York Post. You remember she called for the NWSL to

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Speaker 1: adopt quote unquote a clear standard for gender eligibility in

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Speaker 1: the league, proposing that all players must be born with

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Speaker 1: ovaries or that players submit to an sry gene test. Effectively,

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Speaker 1: she's seeking to ban trans and intersex players. On Thursday,

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Speaker 1: Angel CITYFC released a statement that said, quote in response

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Speaker 1: to an op ed published on October twenty seventh, we

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Speaker 1: want to make clear that while we respect the right

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Speaker 1: for an individual to express their opinion, it does not

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Speaker 1: reflect the opinion of an entire organization. Since our founding,

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Speaker 1: Angel City has remained committed to equity, inclusion, and belonging.

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Speaker 1: These principles will always guide how we show up for

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Speaker 1: our team, fans, and community.

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Speaker 2: End quote.

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Speaker 1: In addition, a former producer and reporter for Angel City's

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Speaker 1: content team now a content creator an advocate who posts

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Speaker 1: under the name uncle Fish, posted a response on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen.

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Speaker 12: Two weeks ago, you damn me asking to talk. There

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Speaker 12: was no context. Life's been full, so it slipped my mind,

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Speaker 12: and then this week I saw your article in the

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Speaker 12: New York Post calling for stricter policy around gender in

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Speaker 12: the NWSL, and suddenly I had a feeling this is

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Speaker 12: what it was about.

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Speaker 7: So here my.

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Speaker 12: Notes, better late than ever.

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Speaker 8: First, there's a photo of you in your Angel City

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Speaker 8: kit with a caption Angel City FC star Elizabeth Eddie

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Speaker 8: is calling on the NASL, and that framing matters because

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Speaker 8: it ties your very personal opinion to a club in

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Speaker 8: a community who were not a part of that conversation. Next,

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Speaker 8: you wrote we're all in this together, and then intentionally

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Speaker 8: use an image of Barbara Banda, a CIS woman already

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Speaker 8: targeted for her gender.

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Speaker 2: That's not togetherness.

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Speaker 8: That's harm, and that's what happens when we call for

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Speaker 8: standards without understanding the full complexity of sex and gender.

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Speaker 1: We'll link to Fish's video in the show notes, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to update you on some more responses from

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Speaker 1: around the league next week. We love that you're listening slices,

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Speaker 1: but we want you to get in the game every

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Speaker 1: day too, So here's our good game play of the day.

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Speaker 2: Watch Decision Day this weekend.

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Speaker 1: It's only the second time in NWSL history that every

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Speaker 1: team in the league has played on the final day.

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Speaker 1: Will it be chaotic, absolutely? Will you understand the real

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Speaker 1: time implications as they unfold? Probably not? But will you

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Speaker 1: remember watching most definitely. We'll link to a decision day

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Speaker 1: guide at the show notes so you can get prepped. Also,

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Speaker 1: keep sending us those women's sports Halloween costumes.

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Speaker 2: We love to see them.

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Speaker 1: We always love to hear from you, so hit us

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Speaker 1: leave us a voicemail at eight seven two two o

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Speaker 1: four fifty seventy and.

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Speaker 1: It's easy watch when in doubt, dance it out, rating

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Speaker 1: ten out of ten Sweaty House Party Vibes review. Every year,

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Speaker 1: for the last couple of years, the second night of

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Speaker 1: the espnW summit has concluded with a full on rager.

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Speaker 1: L Duncan and her favorite Atlanta DJ DJ Technology take

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Speaker 1: over and get the whole crowd of athletes, more marketers,

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Speaker 1: and execs to let loose and dance till they drop.

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Speaker 1: Highlights from this year well AUSL Commissioner Kim Eng getting

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Speaker 1: crazy to footloose, L dropping it down to Nicki minaj

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Speaker 1: the whole dance floor, swag surfing, and of course your

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Speaker 1: girl had to bring out her favorite party trick, So

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Speaker 1: I dropped down into the splits chugged in spiked beer.

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Speaker 2: You know, work, professionalism class, Grace.

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Speaker 1: I can't recommend enough a night of dancing, sweating, and

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Speaker 1: letting loose with friends and strangers. We all need a

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Speaker 1: really healthy outlet right now for stress, sadness, and anger.

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Speaker 2: And dancing is a hell of a drug.

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Speaker 1: Now it's your turn, y'all rate and review, Thanks for listening,

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