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Speaker 1: Were with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris and
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Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, December fourth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,
Speaker 2: episode number seventy nine. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 2: The Break. We are live from the s WBC Mortgage
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Speaker 2: see why at LG dot com. Forward slash O leed Evo. Hey, Chris,
Speaker 2: I got a question for you. Chris, I'm here. I
Speaker 2: just have to turn some stuff down.
Speaker 3: You don't hear yourself?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 2: Is there a reason why you don't keep my music going?
Speaker 2: Like when I'm talking, like I can feel the music
Speaker 2: and it helps me like go through my little you
Speaker 2: know all the words I say? Is there a reason
Speaker 2: why we don't keep the music going?
Speaker 3: This?
Speaker 7: Uh, well, the way it works is when I transition
Speaker 7: from the actual program from the open it fades into it,
Speaker 7: so it kills it. Now, I probably should start c
Speaker 7: sting your base here.
Speaker 8: There a reason why we're having this conversation.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: In my mind, it came my mind. I just wanted
Speaker 2: to know. I was just there may be a reason
Speaker 2: that we don't do that. But I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 2: maybe by.
Speaker 8: Tomorrow that's there famous quote, is there a reason why?
Speaker 8: Is there a reason why this and that isn't the
Speaker 8: right way to do this? Great?
Speaker 6: I will tell you this, I have used that in
Speaker 6: my personal life way to do it.
Speaker 2: I never want to assume anything.
Speaker 6: Every time you hear.
Speaker 8: That, you're like, oh great, you know it's not gonna
Speaker 8: be good.
Speaker 2: You lead in with is there a reason why? Because
Speaker 2: you may not know the reason and maybe a legitimate reason.
Speaker 6: That phrase has made me better with conflicts, so I
Speaker 6: could not I could not give Derek flack for that.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 7: I know your favorite season is Christmas, so I need
Speaker 7: to start I need to start adding your Christmas music.
Speaker 2: Yes, that would be great, Like we could run through
Speaker 2: this Christmas and it gives it just gives a different
Speaker 2: vibe we feel good when we hear music, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: and everybody. I let's get to the scouting.
Speaker 3: No, I'm.
Speaker 9: Apologize for me. I'm the reason the show's late today.
Speaker 9: Impologized for that. My mom sorry about that. I was
Speaker 9: running late today. And another thing is, uh, my son
Speaker 9: is in conflict right now because he's trying to sell
Speaker 9: his SEC ticket to the championship game. So now he's
Speaker 9: asking me questions about it. So I'm sorry I had
Speaker 9: to handle family matters.
Speaker 2: Parenting always comes parenting, I'm sorry, it always comes from Yes.
Speaker 3: Music is good for everybody, thank you.
Speaker 2: Chris is on the same pace.
Speaker 3: So good for Christmas. Big Fantom Music.
Speaker 2: Handle that for us. So I'll start working on Christmas music. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, let's let's jump in today. I want to
Speaker 2: start to talk. I want to start a discussion on
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott. He had some comments yesterday to dreey Epstein
Speaker 2: and it was interesting. It's interesting comments he had about
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy. I'll read the comments and I want to
Speaker 2: get your impressions on what you think. And he says,
Speaker 2: I believe whole I believe in him wholeheartedly. I don't
Speaker 2: want to necessarily get into the nuts and screws of
Speaker 2: it all obviously, but I think the definitely, I think
Speaker 2: he definitely deserves a chance, another chance and a chance
Speaker 2: to coach this team amongst more influence on his terms
Speaker 2: may be a good way to say it. What do
Speaker 2: you guys make of his endorsement.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's fascinating, it's I think it's a endorsement
Speaker 6: of their relationship as well. You look at the time
Speaker 6: that Dak Prescott has left in his career, he probably
Speaker 6: has more on the front end that he's already played.
Speaker 6: I think he realizes that, and he's seen what success
Speaker 6: has looked like under Mike McCarthy. You could look at
Speaker 6: twenty twenty three him being an MVP runner up under
Speaker 6: Mike's offense, and uh, the the quote that I found
Speaker 6: very interesting though, was on his own terms. What does
Speaker 6: that mean? I really just don't. I don't know what
Speaker 6: that means. It could be, it could be a multitude
Speaker 6: of things. Is that oversight from ownership? Is that, you know,
Speaker 6: play calling not necessarily being one hundred percent in his hands.
Speaker 6: I'm curious how the head coach isn't doing doing things
Speaker 6: on his terms already.
Speaker 9: I'm kind of conflicted on this one. Okay, I think
Speaker 9: this quarterbacks are a really good politician. I think he really is.
Speaker 9: I think he realizes what's about to happen, and he
Speaker 9: wants to be on the right side of things, and
Speaker 9: you know, if it doesn't work out, then you know,
Speaker 9: he had his he had his say. He gave his say.
Speaker 9: I you know, if there's been some really there's been
Speaker 9: some good times, there have been some times where it
Speaker 9: looks like there's been some conflict when it came to
Speaker 9: the offense and what needs to be done. I think
Speaker 9: I think Dak is very mindful of what lies ahead.
Speaker 9: He got his deal done, the coach's deal is not done.
Speaker 9: I think he's looking at this situation like, listen, I
Speaker 9: don't want any I don't want any hard feelings or
Speaker 9: anything at this So you you know, he's not playing
Speaker 9: right now. So he's not in the light where Nick
Speaker 9: Harris can walk up on a Thursday afternoon and ask
Speaker 9: him a question. He's not in that light. Matter of fact,
Speaker 9: it's a situation where he was doing something. Joey is
Speaker 9: He and Enjoyed are very very close, you know, and
Speaker 9: so she asked questions, he gives answers. His message gets
Speaker 9: out that way through the media. I believe that does
Speaker 9: he have some feelings about Mike, Yes, positive feelings, Yes,
Speaker 9: But I think he also wants to make sure that
Speaker 9: if it does in this way that he was he
Speaker 9: was seen as being. I was for the coach, Ye
Speaker 9: I wasn't. I'm not again to coach. If he chose
Speaker 9: to be silent about this, and then you'd probably really
Speaker 9: really know. But I think Dak's very very good at
Speaker 9: playing this game. And I say that in an admiration.
Speaker 9: I don't say that as a negative thing. I'd say
Speaker 9: that as Dak Prescott is very good with the media
Speaker 9: and the way he can get his message, the way
Speaker 9: you know. He's not combative. He's not Aaron Rodgers. He's
Speaker 9: not you know he could be. He's very calculating and
Speaker 9: he thinks things out. This guy's got a master's degree
Speaker 9: and stuff like this. So I kind of feel like
Speaker 9: that he is trying to put his position on this
Speaker 9: side of it before it potentially turns into something he
Speaker 9: has no say over.
Speaker 10: Well.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, Dak has never been one to start
Speaker 8: any kind of drama or dilemma. I don't think anything
Speaker 8: other than what he said would have been an answer
Speaker 8: that you would expect him to say, Like, that's an
Speaker 8: answer that you expect to hear year. It's not controversial.
Speaker 8: It is what it is. Even if we don't know
Speaker 8: what happened controversial.
Speaker 3: We don't know part of the answer though.
Speaker 8: That end quote where Nick pointed it out. I mean,
Speaker 8: that's that, that is what. It gives you some pause
Speaker 8: and leads you to think, because sometimes even as calculated
Speaker 8: as you said, Brian, even as calculated as his answer was,
Speaker 8: there's some things that your brain is gonna spit out
Speaker 8: like that, And he could be a simple word like
Speaker 8: that one, and then now we're left to start wondering, way,
Speaker 8: like what are you trying to say here? That's the
Speaker 8: only thing that he leads you to assumer start creating
Speaker 8: in your mind.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question because I read this
Speaker 2: and what came to my mind was where does he
Speaker 2: lack influence? Like they started with Kellvin Moore running the offense,
Speaker 2: Keln Moore's out the door, He's now running the offense,
Speaker 2: he's calling the place. Where does he feel like or
Speaker 2: where does Dak feel like he deserves more influence? I mean,
Speaker 2: we talked about it yesterday and I think the consensus
Speaker 2: that we had was it's not a bad idea necessarily,
Speaker 2: or to think that there's a possibility he could be back.
Speaker 2: The one caveat being do you make a change and
Speaker 2: tell him, hey, you're coming back, but you got to
Speaker 2: do something different with an offensive coordinator. So is it
Speaker 2: where is he Where does he need more influence that
Speaker 2: he doesn't have right now?
Speaker 9: Listen, you know I've I was in that room in
Speaker 9: two thousand and five, and I've been with head coaches
Speaker 9: here that had influence with player personnel. You know, whether
Speaker 9: you it's whether you want to take it or not.
Speaker 9: You know, you do have influence with the general manager.
Speaker 9: It's a triangle here. Yeah, Jones's family on the on
Speaker 9: the top, coaches on one corner, the scouts on the
Speaker 9: other corner, Will McClay and and they all have a
Speaker 9: say that this organization thrives in discussion. They believe in that.
Speaker 9: That's you know, we've all been here, we've all worked here.
Speaker 9: We understand what that is over there. So I don't
Speaker 9: know where he's going with that. Maybe maybe there was
Speaker 9: some things with that Mike wanted. Maybe Mike wanted.
Speaker 3: Joe Philbin back and didn't get him back.
Speaker 9: Maybe he wanted Rob Davis to be here, didn't get
Speaker 9: Rob Davis here anymore. You know, maybe Mike is going
Speaker 9: up and saying, hey, listen, pal, they're trying to work
Speaker 9: you with your contract. Just I'm just thinking out loud here.
Speaker 9: I'm not you know, I'm just thinking, you know, hey,
Speaker 9: you know, him and Mike talking, Hey, they're trying to
Speaker 9: work you on that contract.
Speaker 3: Huh, and just hanging there.
Speaker 9: You know, you're you're, you're you know, And there's that
Speaker 9: dialogue going back and forth, and maybe him and Mike
Speaker 9: have a discussion about, yeah, it's gonna be a little tough.
Speaker 9: I lost my line coach, you know. You know, hey,
Speaker 9: we're gonna try and build this offense around you. We're
Speaker 9: gonna try and do some things. Maybe that's the discussion
Speaker 9: that him and Dak had that you know, they that
Speaker 9: that Dak kind of realizes that I couldn't think he
Speaker 9: would be mad about the front office asking to play
Speaker 9: Ezekiel Elliott, that that's his guy. Yeah, you know, I mean,
Speaker 9: if you if you were a guy and all of
Speaker 9: a sudden, it's like the general man, which is his
Speaker 9: prerogative to walk in a suggest to the head coach,
Speaker 9: any general manager, that's his progative to walk in and say, hey, listen,
Speaker 9: what can we think about what's what's what do we
Speaker 9: are we having a problem playing Zeke?
Speaker 3: Is there a problem there? You know?
Speaker 9: He's not asking him to, He's just saying, is there
Speaker 9: you know? And well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, though.
Speaker 9: But as a general manager it happens every day in
Speaker 9: the league. You can walk into buildings and say, I
Speaker 9: remember Mike homegrin in ron Wolf Brett Farbi throwing a
Speaker 9: ton of interceptions and Ron Wolf made a suggestion, do
Speaker 9: we need to play Mark Burnell? And Mike said, no, no,
Speaker 9: we're this guy and this quarterback and I are going
Speaker 9: to get this done. Just give us time, we'll get
Speaker 9: it done. So see, general managers make suggestions. But maybe
Speaker 9: this is where to me, I maybe the coaching, the turnovers,
Speaker 9: that that part of it wasn't exactly what Mike McCarthy
Speaker 9: wanted to do, And now now he's kind of throwing
Speaker 9: it out there. They're like, okay, I've had this discussion
Speaker 9: with Mike, and you know, we're struggling with that aspect
Speaker 9: of this game.
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Speaker 2: When we come back, we're going to dive into the
Speaker 2: Bengals offense, an interesting offense. They got a lot of weapons,
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Speaker 3: The Little Tremor Boy would be even better.
Speaker 2: We're got to talk about the music. But it's good.
Speaker 3: I like it.
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Speaker 2: probably got to start a while Amber's talking it can
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Speaker 2: not complaints. These are suggestions. Isn't that what you said, Brian.
Speaker 2: The GM can always always suggest.
Speaker 9: The GM, the head coach, always makes suggestions, always make
Speaker 9: and it's our job to serve to the pleasure of
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Speaker 3: There you go.
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Speaker 2: all right, let's jump in. Let's talk about these Bengals.
Speaker 2: They are four and eight right now. They are coached
Speaker 2: by Zach Taylor.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: This team is kind of an up and down team
Speaker 2: year over year. You know, some years are really good
Speaker 2: at Lord, they was that twenty twenty one when they were.
Speaker 9: In this with the Kansas City a couple of times,
Speaker 9: and kind of they had a blueprint there for a
Speaker 9: while how to beat Kansas City.
Speaker 2: Well, the blueprint is they got a hell of a quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they got some great receiving weapons. Like that's really
Speaker 2: what they're predicated on. It just so happens that this year,
Speaker 2: defensively they can't stop them anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That being said, let's dive in and let's talk a
Speaker 2: little bit. Let's start first big picture. What is the
Speaker 2: thing that stands out to you most about this team
Speaker 2: that fans need to know approaching this And it can
Speaker 2: be about the team offense, defense, coach, whatever. What's the
Speaker 2: biggest thing you need to know about this team?
Speaker 6: This offense is not four and eight. I think that's
Speaker 6: probably the number one thing when you look at this offense.
Speaker 6: When you look at the way Joe Burrow has played
Speaker 6: this year, his numbers have stacked up alongside MVP winners
Speaker 6: in past years. Over the course of the last decade.
Speaker 6: His number of three hundred yard games and three touchdown
Speaker 6: games arrival. What Aaron Rodgers was doing during his MVP runs.
Speaker 6: He's been efficient, he's been good, he's gotten multiple weapons involved.
Speaker 6: The run game has gotten better as the season has
Speaker 6: gone on. I'm starting to have a little bit more
Speaker 6: trust in guys like Chase Brown to be able to
Speaker 6: do some things for their run game. And they went
Speaker 6: and got Khalil Herbert at the deadline. They haven't really
Speaker 6: used him a whole lot, but that's a guy that
Speaker 6: you have to factor in as well. But this offense
Speaker 6: top to bottom is really good. I think there's some
Speaker 6: holes in the offensive line. Certainly get them, yeah, and
Speaker 6: that's where you got to get pressure on Joe Burrow.
Speaker 6: But if you don't, it's going to be a long
Speaker 6: day because they have I'll tell you what, they have
Speaker 6: four receivers that I think could be wide receiver two,
Speaker 6: wide receiver three on this offense that this is a
Speaker 6: really good receiving core that I think it's so good
Speaker 6: that some of these guys at the lower portion of
Speaker 6: the depth chart are are very underrated just because of
Speaker 6: the guys that are around them, and Jamar Chase and
Speaker 6: t Higgins.
Speaker 9: Blitz bothers these guys. The blitz bothers these guys, It
Speaker 9: really does. And they've had some problems on the right
Speaker 9: side of their offensive line. When you watch them. I
Speaker 9: love the fact that my next gen stuff that you
Speaker 9: guys there, that I can sit there and watch every
Speaker 9: sack they've given up this year and how it's all happened.
Speaker 9: And there's a constant theme about what happens with the
Speaker 9: Bengals and they and I think Nick's right about their
Speaker 9: running game. I think it's gotten better. But if you
Speaker 9: look at the metrics overall, their numbers are very similar
Speaker 9: to what the Cowboys do.
Speaker 3: Very similar.
Speaker 9: I mean the number of carries, the number, I mean,
Speaker 9: it's just very similar. How that just shows you, you
Speaker 9: know where they where they've kind of had to come from.
Speaker 9: This is really all about the quarterback, and it's all
Speaker 9: about the wide receivers. And but if Dallas gets into
Speaker 9: a game where all of a sudden, Mike Zimmer has
Speaker 9: figured out how to dial up pressure and dial up
Speaker 9: blitz pressure, you can make it hard.
Speaker 3: On these guys.
Speaker 9: And I think that you can make it especially hard
Speaker 9: on the right side of their offensive line when you watch,
Speaker 9: because I sat there and I'm like, Okay, how do
Speaker 9: you attack?
Speaker 3: How do you attack?
Speaker 9: And it was right side and make these backs have
Speaker 9: to pick up make Chase Brown in those now Moss
Speaker 9: early in the season, he's.
Speaker 3: Now in I R.
Speaker 9: Moss couldn't block anybody on a pickup. But if they're
Speaker 9: gonna throw the football, you're gonna have to be able
Speaker 9: to the problem is that with Jamar Chase, the ball
Speaker 9: is going way down the field. Now, this is this
Speaker 9: is when you when when Burrow when you start to
Speaker 9: talk about deep shots and things like that, got six touchdowns.
Speaker 9: Five of them are to Chase way down the field.
Speaker 9: So you're gonna have to deal with that. The vertical
Speaker 9: game there with t Higgins underneath, you know they're they're
Speaker 9: going to target Chase in this game. But the pressure
Speaker 9: bothers them in ways, and especially Blitz pressure bothers them.
Speaker 9: So now I'm going to try and figure out how
Speaker 9: to how to attack the right guard here. Alex Kappa,
Speaker 9: He's the one guy that I kind of feel like
Speaker 9: can get driven back.
Speaker 3: We've seen better play from Osa in this football game.
Speaker 9: I'm kind of matching him up and seeing it because
Speaker 9: they're going to leave these guys one on one, not
Speaker 9: all the time, but when they do, you got to
Speaker 9: take advantage because they don't really like to double. So
Speaker 9: when they lose, they're losing one on one, so.
Speaker 3: Be ready for that.
Speaker 9: They got a rookie right tackle and and they've got
Speaker 9: to and with Alex Kappa at guard, he seems to
Speaker 9: have the biggest prompts. Ted Karris, their center I think
Speaker 9: is pretty good. But that's that's kind of where I
Speaker 9: would focus that that right tackle with Osa and then
Speaker 9: trying to bring some pressure off.
Speaker 3: That which would be Dallas's left side on that rookie
Speaker 3: tackle Mims a little bit.
Speaker 2: The other thing to note about that is Dallas does
Speaker 2: like to We've seen Mike Zimmer do it here of
Speaker 2: the last few weeks. They like to slide might be
Speaker 2: into that defensive tackle position as well, and all on
Speaker 2: one that opportunity to be able to maybe a slide
Speaker 2: him in there and take advantage of that matchup as
Speaker 2: if it if that that that offensive line, I just.
Speaker 3: Feel like that's the best.
Speaker 9: I mean, if you if you don't get pressure on
Speaker 9: these guys, this quarterback will kill you. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 9: he's that type of passer. But but what happens is
Speaker 9: you go and you study, now, go study the metrics
Speaker 9: on this team. He holds the ball a lot and
Speaker 9: you watch the sacks, he's like he's he's gonna throw
Speaker 9: and then he pulls it down, throw, pull down, like
Speaker 9: he like he sees things. It's almost like the old
Speaker 9: saying you see ghosts a little bit. It's like, but
Speaker 9: he's only thrown five interceptions, you know, thirty touchdowns five
Speaker 9: interceptions here, So but when you get him to pull
Speaker 9: the ball down, that's when things really collapse for him.
Speaker 9: So if you know the matchups on the outside, how
Speaker 9: are you able to handle Chase Higgins and their receivers.
Speaker 9: They've Nick's right, They've got some really really good receivers
Speaker 9: and got some good young receivers too. But they but
Speaker 9: they are but they are a little bit sceptible to pressure.
Speaker 3: And Dallas.
Speaker 9: One of the calling cards we've seen with Dallas, you
Speaker 9: turn this into Dallas getting a rush of passer of
Speaker 9: the whole game. That kind of plays into Dallas's hands
Speaker 9: a little bit. So that's that's the one encouraging thing
Speaker 9: that I would say, Uh Chase. Chase even said it
Speaker 9: in a media availability last time he played digs and
Speaker 9: it's it was a few years ago. One catch eight yards,
Speaker 9: six yards something like that. Two targets and and Chase
Speaker 9: even made the comment, he goes, that guy shut me down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so.
Speaker 9: Is he gonna play? Can you shut him down? Are
Speaker 9: you gonna get fortunate? I mean, this was one of
Speaker 9: Diggs's better games. We remember, third down route, across the field,
Speaker 9: tackle right there, fourth down tackle again by Diggs. One
Speaker 9: of the better games that he actually played against this week. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 9: see if he's active this week. So but that's that's
Speaker 9: that's gonna be the recipe if you if you can.
Speaker 3: Find a way to affect the their their.
Speaker 9: Offensive line with pressure, that's that's gonna be your best path.
Speaker 6: You talk about this right side, and we've talked a
Speaker 6: lot about Tyler Guitton and the inexperience that he had
Speaker 6: coming into the season. Amarius Mims, their right tackle that
Speaker 6: they got in the first round, only had eight starts
Speaker 6: in his time at Georgia, compared to Tyler Guidon having fourteen.
Speaker 6: So talking about raw and inexperience, you're seeing that show
Speaker 6: up for both of these guys. In this instance, it's
Speaker 6: just on the right side of the offensive line and
Speaker 6: it's not paired well with Alex Kappa over at the
Speaker 6: right guard position. I want to talk about their red
Speaker 6: zone efficiency though their second in the NFL and touchdown
Speaker 6: percentage in the red zone, and it makes sense because
Speaker 6: you look at all of these weapons that they do
Speaker 6: have in the red zone, not only Jamar Chase and
Speaker 6: t Higgins, but andre Yosi Vosh He's got five touchdowns in.
Speaker 2: The red zone season.
Speaker 6: Yeah, zone Princeton product, it's his second year in the NFL.
Speaker 6: He's really coming into his own. He was kind of
Speaker 6: one of my draft pet cats a couple of years ago,
Speaker 6: so it's been really cool to see him come about.
Speaker 6: But high school teammates with Marris Leofel, so there's some
Speaker 6: history there as well. But this is a kid who
Speaker 6: this is one of those receivers that I'm talking about.
Speaker 6: This is a big body, a guy who can go
Speaker 6: go get some balls in the red zone and it
Speaker 6: makes life difficult when it gets in those compact situations.
Speaker 6: So when this team gets in the red zone, very
Speaker 6: seldomly do they not come away with a touchdown.
Speaker 3: So if they do have to kick field goals or
Speaker 3: kickers been a little shaky.
Speaker 8: Yeah, do you know the stats on Cowwoi's defense for
Speaker 8: red zone?
Speaker 6: I will get that for you. But the Cincinnati offense
Speaker 6: they are scoring touchdowns on seventy one percent of their
Speaker 6: red zone trips, second in the NFL, only trailing Baltimore.
Speaker 2: That's impressive. All right, Let's talk a little bit about.
Speaker 9: The touchdowns for that one guy, that receiver, which one
Speaker 9: Chase Chase?
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about the run to pass ratio. Right now,
Speaker 2: they are first in passing yards, fourth in pass attempts
Speaker 2: in the NFL. On the other side, they're twenty seventh
Speaker 2: in rush yards and thirtieth in rush attempts. They obviously
Speaker 2: are very heavily skewed toward the pass. As you said, Brian,
Speaker 2: my question is is their run pass ratio about them
Speaker 2: more leaning into what they consider to be their strength
Speaker 2: or is it about them needing to score to keep
Speaker 2: up with opposing offenses because their defense has been so bad.
Speaker 6: I have the stat I'm sorry, I was looking for
Speaker 6: it while you were asking that Dallas is dead last.
Speaker 6: They give a touchdown red zone seventy of their.
Speaker 2: Can you give that? Can give me that number? Look,
Speaker 2: and I don't know you If you can, I would
Speaker 2: love to know that number. Looking at the last two games,
Speaker 2: three games, whatever it.
Speaker 6: Might be, the last three, the last since they had
Speaker 6: Michael back.
Speaker 2: Essentially, what does it look like the.
Speaker 6: Last three games, they're thirtieth and so it hasn't gone
Speaker 6: up a ton. That hasn't gone up a ton.
Speaker 2: All right, that's not great.
Speaker 6: Only Pittsburgh and San Francisco have been worse than.
Speaker 2: Keep them out of the red zone essentially.
Speaker 6: But Cincinnati's defense is also been in the red zone.
Speaker 6: We'll talk about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to that. So back to the run
Speaker 2: pass ratio. What do you think is the reason for that?
Speaker 3: I think they get behind in games. I think that's
Speaker 3: I think that's a big problem there.
Speaker 9: I think only Indie plays more more snaps out a
Speaker 9: shotgun than this crew. I think they're constantly they they
Speaker 9: realize that they've got the receivers and they've got the
Speaker 9: quarterback to be able to you know, to general and
Speaker 9: they have to generate points.
Speaker 3: They because they do.
Speaker 9: They're I mean, we'll get into but just quickly, I
Speaker 9: was just kind of like looking at you know, it's
Speaker 9: looking because I was looking at Cincinnati offense. But then
Speaker 9: you flip the Cincinnati defense and their numbers are very
Speaker 9: similar to what like the Cowboys have. You know, it's
Speaker 9: they're in the twenties and a lot of these even
Speaker 9: I mean it goes back to these things like, oh
Speaker 9: you should be can you take advantage of? Can you
Speaker 9: take advantage of? Because Cincinnati on defense does a lot
Speaker 9: of bad things. They do a lot of bad things.
Speaker 9: But on the flip side of that, their offense, though,
Speaker 9: makes up for that. I like I say, don't I
Speaker 9: don't anticipate Cincinnati. I don't think they're going to run
Speaker 9: the ball. I don't think they're going to try and
Speaker 9: run the ball, but it might play into Dallas's hands
Speaker 9: because of the pass rush. But can't can Cooper rush
Speaker 9: and the offense? Can they generate points? That's gonna be
Speaker 9: because if they don't, well, then Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Will be very comfortable playing this football game.
Speaker 6: I think, yeah, if this offense is fully healthy. Talking
Speaker 6: about the Cowboys offense, I think I'd have a little
Speaker 6: bit more common in them coming away with a win.
Speaker 6: Not to preview what I'm picking on Friday, but I
Speaker 6: just feel like if Dak Prescott was playing, if Ceedee
Speaker 6: Lamb was even at a hundred percent, that they have
Speaker 6: proven that they could score points offensively over the course
Speaker 6: of the last two weeks. Because a lot of these
Speaker 6: a lot of these points have come from special teams
Speaker 6: and defense. They if they had proven that they could
Speaker 6: score points offensively, I feel like they would be able
Speaker 6: to keep pace with Cincinnati. But it's it's gonna be hard.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be really hard. This is a really good offense.
Speaker 2: How do you think they'll match up with Jamar Chase
Speaker 2: and T Higgins. I mean, obviously they haven't had their
Speaker 2: two starting corner starting cornerbacks on the field at the
Speaker 2: same time yet this season. How much do you think
Speaker 2: how do you think they match up and how do
Speaker 2: you think the pass rush affects their ability to match
Speaker 2: up with those two receivers.
Speaker 6: I think it does start with the pass rush. T
Speaker 6: Higgins hasn't been healthy all year. He's been in and
Speaker 6: out of the lineup. But when he has been in,
Speaker 6: he's been productive. Yes, and he's he's taken some some
Speaker 6: load off of Jamar Chase's hands. He makes life easier
Speaker 6: for Joe Burrow. So it's it's right now the task, yes,
Speaker 6: he is. It's gonna be an all out task. He
Speaker 6: returned last week, I believe, after a two week absence.
Speaker 6: But it's it's gonna be it's gonna be a tough task.
Speaker 6: I don't even know who I would put on which guy.
Speaker 6: I mean, considering Diggs's history with Chase, that probably makes
Speaker 6: the most sense.
Speaker 2: But you probably don't travel them either. You don't probably
Speaker 2: just let them stay where they are.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I think Mike keeps I think he keeps
Speaker 3: them left and right.
Speaker 9: And then you go play and then and then figure
Speaker 9: out what you want to do, if you want, how
Speaker 9: you want to use your safeties.
Speaker 3: This team sees a lot of too deep. They see
Speaker 3: a lot of two doesn't Chase.
Speaker 9: Because Chase and they and so what happens The too
Speaker 9: deep allows you to be able to cheat to one
Speaker 9: side of this team they see. They see more split
Speaker 9: safety too deep coverage than any other team in the league.
Speaker 9: And it's just because of the threat of the vertical stuff,
Speaker 9: but also though the ability to try and they feel
Speaker 9: like that they have to. Teams feel like they have
Speaker 9: to try and cheat to one side to be able
Speaker 9: to handle to handle Chase.
Speaker 2: And it seems like you should be able to do
Speaker 2: that in a matchup where they don't really try to
Speaker 2: run that much, let alone be effective that running the ball,
Speaker 2: so you don't have to bring that safety down.
Speaker 3: You can keep to sous Dallas.
Speaker 9: And Cincinnati, two teams that play with more light boxes
Speaker 9: than any other than the other teams in the league,
Speaker 9: so that people don't respect Cincinnati's run.
Speaker 3: So what do they do?
Speaker 9: They keep the safety back thinking they're worried about the
Speaker 9: over the top ball.
Speaker 6: Jamar Chase obviously was banged up a lot last year,
Speaker 6: so the context is a little murky, but best receiver
Speaker 6: in football right.
Speaker 9: Now, right now, yeah, right now. Over Jeffefferson, I take
Speaker 9: take both l issue kids. Between your two guys there,
Speaker 9: I'll tell you what throwing the film a Chase playing
Speaker 9: against and we've played Baltimore this year because you kind
Speaker 9: of understand that Baltimore struggles. He's watching Baltimore. He kills
Speaker 9: Baltimore both times. Yeah, kills them, you know, I mean
Speaker 9: like you run in routes. I mean they can't stop him.
Speaker 9: And I'm kind of thinking Baltimore's got a pretty good defense,
Speaker 9: you know, except in the secondary. It seems that they
Speaker 9: give up a bunch of plays.
Speaker 3: Me personally, I take Chase, yeah, the only.
Speaker 2: The only thing that makes me kind of get more Jefferson.
Speaker 3: I think the quarterbacks better.
Speaker 2: I look at the quarterback, and I'm like, I think
Speaker 2: Chase has the benefit of having much better quarterback than
Speaker 2: than Jefferson had. Maybe maybe that Jefferson's had in his
Speaker 2: whole career, and Jefferson's still producing at the level he is.
Speaker 9: I was kind of feeling like that Jefferson's numbers were
Speaker 9: gonna come way down with me j McCarthy at quarterback.
Speaker 9: That's and then McCarthy got hurt.
Speaker 3: But they've done. Sam Donald's done a nice shop.
Speaker 2: I thought with Sam Donald's numbs would go down, and
Speaker 2: he's still He's still putting us.
Speaker 6: Call a good point because if Justin Jefferson had Joe
Speaker 6: Burrow to start his call, my god, oh my god,
Speaker 6: that's a national champion.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of Andre Johnson when he was in
Speaker 2: Houston all those years where he just had whoever at
Speaker 2: quarterback and he was consistent putting up numbers, putting up number,
Speaker 2: putting up numbers. That says a lot man. Same thing
Speaker 2: with DeAndre Hopkins. Hopkins did the same thing. He had
Speaker 2: a you know whatever at quarterback, but a lot of
Speaker 2: those years and still produced. All right, let's tick our
Speaker 2: final break. When we come back, Let's talk a little
Speaker 2: bit about the Cowboys defense and how they'll match up
Speaker 2: against this high powered offens will do that in a minute.
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Speaker 2: That's it good, Welcome back to this final segment.
Speaker 8: Every time something else, anything else do you want to say?
Speaker 2: No, I'm good, I'm good, I'm in a good mood.
Speaker 2: Today it's Christmas time. Man, We're rolling, and my long
Speaker 2: horns are rolling and cowboys are winning, and so man,
Speaker 2: everything's good in my world right now.
Speaker 6: I saw them painting the field that Mercedes bins with
Speaker 6: the long hornside of five yard line. I was like,
Speaker 6: oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: I wanted to respond and just say you're welcome, but
Speaker 2: I was like, that seems a little bit over the top.
Speaker 2: That's a Texas thing to do. I was like, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to play into that, but you're welcome. All right,
Speaker 2: let's let's talk about that.
Speaker 9: I hope some of you wins because I don't want
Speaker 9: them to get worked in this thing.
Speaker 2: They can't let me nick we're having that conversation.
Speaker 9: They're gonna get worked. They're gonna there this year's Florida
Speaker 9: State of last year.
Speaker 2: I was ready after them because that team is good.
Speaker 2: If you walk, good play like we were having that
Speaker 2: kind of conversation. I want to get too far into
Speaker 2: college football, but we're having a conversation. And it was like, okay,
Speaker 2: so if you're the opponent, who do you want to play?
Speaker 2: Do you want to play Alabama or Miami. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say I'll take Miami. I'll take my chance with Miami.
Speaker 3: You say s m U.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people will say give me
Speaker 2: s m U. If you've watched SMU, I don't think
Speaker 2: a lot of people want to play SMU. He's that's
Speaker 2: a good team. It's a really good team.
Speaker 9: It's a good team. I'll tell you another thing. I
Speaker 9: wouldn't want to go have to go play a game
Speaker 9: in Boise in that cold yeah. Yeah, and the potential
Speaker 9: snowhood blue field, bluefield like snow flying cold. I don't
Speaker 9: know if my livelihood would be very good playing.
Speaker 6: I don't think it shakes out where they will have
Speaker 6: to host a first round game.
Speaker 2: What if Miami had to go there coming from the
Speaker 2: warm confines, they have to go up there and play.
Speaker 9: I was just thinking about I was just thinking about
Speaker 9: having to play Boise in the cold weather about that.
Speaker 2: But I agree with that. I hope, I hope SMU
Speaker 2: doesn't get worked on this. I think they if they
Speaker 2: win and it takes everything, you know, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: They will get a buye and they'll be in the playoff.
Speaker 2: I haven't watched the safety he's giving you check out
Speaker 2: that safety. All right, let's talk about the Dallas defense. Uh,
Speaker 2: last game, they had six sacks. My question for you
Speaker 2: guys is is the increased pressure over the last couple
Speaker 2: of games that Dallas has been able to generate really
Speaker 2: just about Michael Parsons. Is that really the only difference
Speaker 2: or there are other things they are doing schematically that's
Speaker 2: really adding to to how they're being able to get
Speaker 2: pressure and get sacks.
Speaker 9: Over shown Oh sa uh Lawson. Yeah, I think there
Speaker 9: kind of is a unit there. There's a little bit
Speaker 9: of shades of what we saw last year with Armstrong
Speaker 9: and Fowlor. And you know, if you could get Tank
Speaker 9: back into this thing, God should be a great week
Speaker 9: to have back too.
Speaker 2: Where's neelan at is?
Speaker 3: He will see? That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: I think the five day the two games in five days,
Speaker 9: I think got him.
Speaker 3: I bet you he's back this week.
Speaker 2: Do you get kneeling. Let's say you get Kneeling and
Speaker 2: Tank back this week, and let's get we don't but
Speaker 2: everybody has been saying, and I'm talking about the coach
Speaker 2: and Jerry have said publicly there's a chance. And then
Speaker 2: let's say you get Digs back. Now you're working with
Speaker 2: a full contingent, Like, how does that match up against
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati offense.
Speaker 9: But it definitely helps. Yeah, it definitely helps. Because you're
Speaker 9: me personally, I think the only way to stop Cincinnati
Speaker 9: is get pass rush. That's the only way I think
Speaker 9: if this quarterback feels comfortable. I mean, he's had a
Speaker 9: couple of games this year where he's throwing the ball
Speaker 9: over fifty times, so they don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 9: They just, you know, they throw and they throw and
Speaker 9: they throw, and you know, and they have to do
Speaker 9: it because, like you guys were talking about their defense,
Speaker 9: but I just feel like that one of Dallas's strength.
Speaker 9: You know, we're not here talking about they got to
Speaker 9: defend the run today, they got to defend the run.
Speaker 9: They really don't have to defend the run. They get
Speaker 9: to go play. They get to go rush the passer,
Speaker 9: which is one of their strengths. The problem is if
Speaker 9: they're not very good at it this game, they'll get
Speaker 9: run because I don't think their offense, Dallas's offense can
Speaker 9: score enough points. We've talked about that a bunch. But
Speaker 9: at least Cincinnati does something that Dallas can at least
Speaker 9: counter with their pass rush on their home turf.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you'll seem or Simpson running down the
Speaker 6: sideline and the Simpsons. Uh, the Simpsons cast. What is
Speaker 6: that going to be on? By the way, where is
Speaker 6: that even airing? I'm not is it like a plus deal?
Speaker 6: I think it is a ESPN Is it ESPN Plus?
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2: Chris can look it up for us.
Speaker 6: I don't want to get it anyway. I think I
Speaker 6: think with this pass rush, I I do see a difference.
Speaker 6: Makes That's what I was thinking too, because those Fox
Speaker 6: curved they are yeah, get the whole clinch to.
Speaker 8: TV option, ABC ESPN.
Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, So it is an ABC ESPN thing, And.
Speaker 9: That's why the game couldn't get flexed because they've done
Speaker 9: all this, because they did all this leg work to
Speaker 9: get this ready, because they did all the voiceovers and
Speaker 9: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But let's be clear, I'm talking Josse. The TV ratings
Speaker 2: for the Thanksgiving game getting thirty eight million, thirty eight
Speaker 2: million that they said that is the most watched game,
Speaker 2: regular season game of this season so far, Cowboys versus Giants.
Speaker 2: So that's why, no matter what, Cowboys aren't getting flexed
Speaker 2: because not flex down because the networks are like we
Speaker 2: we like having the Cowboys on because they have just
Speaker 2: as many people that want to watch their demise as
Speaker 2: want to watch them win, and so and so it
Speaker 2: just makes for great television.
Speaker 6: If the Cowboys can flex, we will find out for
Speaker 6: the Tampa Bay Sunday night game.
Speaker 2: Don't count on that yet. And by the way, the
Speaker 2: things I'm hearing, I'm not counting on that.
Speaker 7: Don't see that symptoms fun Day Football will be on
Speaker 7: Disney Plus and ESPN Plus.
Speaker 2: Okay, got it, so you can stream it as well
Speaker 2: as watching.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will.
Speaker 9: I will say this though, you need to keep winning
Speaker 9: though here, because if you don't, you're not going to
Speaker 9: see that number one crew from Fox.
Speaker 3: For a while. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3: I love I.
Speaker 7: Love it.
Speaker 9: Those dudes are so good to interview when you get
Speaker 9: to talk to him, I mean, they are really really good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, anyway, the past rush right. I do see a
Speaker 6: difference that MICA's presence just And I was talking to
Speaker 6: a couple of guys in locker room over the last
Speaker 6: few weeks about that, and like, yeah, he certainly helps out.
Speaker 6: But I was talking to Carl lost and specifically after
Speaker 6: the Giants game, and he's like, everyone just knows what
Speaker 6: their job is now. Everyone's doing their job. Everything it's
Speaker 6: skiing and on it. Yeah, and it's I think this
Speaker 6: scheme threw everybody off in the beginning, and I you know,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of things that could be attributed to that.
Speaker 6: You saw some guys give up on it. Jordan Phillips
Speaker 6: was one of those guys. Do you blame him, Probably not.
Speaker 6: I mean you can't whenever you factor in the situation
Speaker 6: that he was dealing with. Yeah, yeah, apparently, But I
Speaker 6: think I think it just took these guys a few
Speaker 6: weeks to figure out what they had to do, and
Speaker 6: now that they know what they're doing, it's it's really
Speaker 6: helping out all eleven know what their job is. And
Speaker 6: I have to also give credit to that double mug
Speaker 6: linebacker look because it confuses young quarterbacks. We've seen it
Speaker 6: over and over and over again over the last few weeks.
Speaker 6: It confused CJ. Stroud, It confused Jayden Daniels, Drew Locke.
Speaker 6: You having those two linebackers over the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 6: you can do so much out of that, and that's
Speaker 6: something you have to identify immediately post snap if you're
Speaker 6: the quarterback, so that that g you a delay on
Speaker 6: looking at your guys, So I think that's also really
Speaker 6: helped those guys figuring out that part of the scheme
Speaker 6: and really being able to key.
Speaker 9: In on it.
Speaker 8: Also with having so many young players too, even with overshown,
Speaker 8: I mean, this was really his first year that he's
Speaker 8: actually playing, so again that learning curve of everyone just
Speaker 8: finding their way in and trying to figure out exactly
Speaker 8: what to do. But credit again, I don't mean to
Speaker 8: say Mica is the savior and the only one that
Speaker 8: can make this defense run, but even some but having
Speaker 8: someone like that on the lineup, even if it's just
Speaker 8: taking off just a tiny bit more pressure and adding
Speaker 8: just a few extra seconds to your game, it just
Speaker 8: it creates more opportunities. And I remember a time where
Speaker 8: we always talked about prior to Micah DeMarcus Lawrence and
Speaker 8: how important it was for him to be on the
Speaker 8: field and on the line because it did create those
Speaker 8: opportunities for the rest of those guys. So curious to
Speaker 8: see though, now mentioning about the Marcus when he's gonna
Speaker 8: come back, because that's another added element that I think.
Speaker 8: I just wish we get one game at least where
Speaker 8: we get all the starters.
Speaker 6: I think it'll happen. I'd be surprised if his practice
Speaker 6: window does not get opened today at the very least.
Speaker 6: I don't think he's going to go Monday. If I
Speaker 6: were a betting man, maybe Carolina's more realistic. And if not,
Speaker 6: Carolina certainly for the Tampa Bay game.
Speaker 2: That being said, we actually had a question from Steve
Speaker 2: on on X and what are your expectations?
Speaker 8: Feeling good today?
Speaker 6: For sure?
Speaker 8: Talk about that Christmas spirit? What did he say? Now?
Speaker 2: You want to know what are your expectations for Tank
Speaker 2: coming off his injury, even if he's able to come back,
Speaker 2: like he hasn't played much, what do you what are
Speaker 2: your expectations of what he can do and how much
Speaker 2: they'll even use him.
Speaker 6: Just based off of what this training staff does like
Speaker 6: to do and how they like to slow their guys
Speaker 6: back in limited snaps. And that's the That's a safe
Speaker 6: way to go about it, especially with a player of
Speaker 6: his age and his caliber. You don't want to make
Speaker 6: it worse and potentially, you know, a career ending type
Speaker 6: situation if he were to reaggravate it. But yeah, probably
Speaker 6: limited snapsy. We saw that very similar to what they
Speaker 6: did with Marshawn neland a week ago. I believe he
Speaker 6: played eighteen or nineteen snaps in that game. They were
Speaker 6: trying to get him to twenty five, but they kept
Speaker 6: him to that number. I could see a similar situation
Speaker 6: for Lawrence, and maybe an uptick for neland.
Speaker 9: Playing the last three games of the season are against
Speaker 9: some explosive offenses. Couldn't hurt Yeah, Yeah, couldn't.
Speaker 2: Definitely help you.
Speaker 6: In his contract, Lawrence, this is expiring last year. He
Speaker 6: basically came quick. He's basically the defense of Zach Martin
Speaker 6: in the sense that, like, it's tough to assume he's
Speaker 6: back next year. But I think in Zach's case, it's
Speaker 6: probably more so a retirement, whereas Lawrence, I think he
Speaker 6: would find a different home.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Look, I don't think that Lawrence is done. I think
Speaker 2: Lawrence has plenty left in the tent. The last time, yeah,
Speaker 2: the last time we saw him playing, he was playing
Speaker 2: great football. So I think it's one of those situations
Speaker 2: where if Dallas decided they're not going to give him
Speaker 2: the deal he wants, I think there will be suitors
Speaker 2: out there, and I think he'll go somewhere and he'll
Speaker 2: do really well. For the next several years playing defensive
Speaker 2: vents for somebody.
Speaker 9: It'd be nice if you had him back and you
Speaker 9: were seven to seven, you know in the record wise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would help any chance, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Real quick. I did want before we end the show,
Speaker 2: I want to talk about dron Bland. He had He
Speaker 2: was a person that they kind of eased in as
Speaker 2: he came back from his injury. Last week he was
Speaker 2: fully back ninety two percent of the defensive snaps. What
Speaker 2: he played. How did you assess his play last week?
Speaker 6: I feel like he's been playing well in coverage. I
Speaker 6: feel like his coverage is better than it was last year,
Speaker 6: just in the little what's the word, I'm looking for
Speaker 6: the snapshot of what we've gotten so far this season
Speaker 6: in two games. Trying to pull up the numbers here,
Speaker 6: he's only given up eighty two receiving yards on seventy
Speaker 6: nine coverage snaps, so almost one yard per plays for
Speaker 6: one yard per coverage snap. So he's doing really well.
Speaker 6: I've loved what he's brought from a coverage perspective. The
Speaker 6: only play that I can think of off the top
Speaker 6: of my mind that I didn't love was a twenty
Speaker 6: yard reception in the Washington game that he gave up
Speaker 6: across the middle. I believe it was on a third
Speaker 6: down as well, on that second touchdown drive that they had,
Speaker 6: and that really kind of kept them going. But aside
Speaker 6: from that, I loved what Blane has been able to do.
Speaker 6: He really feels like he hasn't missed a step, to
Speaker 6: be honest, you get him right.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, all right.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you guys. Jonas, that's a rap. We'll be
Speaker 2: back tomorrow. We'll talk about the Cincinnati defense against the
Speaker 2: Cowboys offense. Till then for Nick Harris, Brian brought us
Speaker 2: an Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The
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