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Speaker 2: Good all right. Here we go fifteen twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: What's up, Degenerate Nation, Welcome to the Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 2: This is the ACC College Football Betting Preview. I'm stuck

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Speaker 2: in with me as always is Colin Wilson. For the

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Speaker 2: final time ever, you'll be hearing us together today on

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Speaker 2: this feed. By the way, more details on that in

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Speaker 2: just a second, Colin, what's going.

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Speaker 3: On with well, I mean, there's no better way to

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Speaker 3: end ourselves on this Action Network feed before we start

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Speaker 3: our new college football feed. Then trying to guess who's

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Speaker 3: going to win the Coastal seven different winners the last

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Speaker 3: seven times there's been a coastal division that's been a crapshoot.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and then if you say that, like the

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Speaker 2: no divisions last year. There weren't no divisions last year.

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Speaker 2: That ended up being Notre Dame, so really like if

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Speaker 2: you ack count that as an eighth team. So we'll

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Speaker 2: get to all of that. We have a jam packed episode.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk here shortly with Bud Elliott, who I know

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Speaker 2: a lot of you are probably familiar with really good

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Speaker 2: resource for recruiting rankings, all things college football and especially

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Speaker 2: the ACC and Florida State. So well, we have a

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Speaker 2: good discussion with him coming up, and then we'll get

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Speaker 2: into the ACC. We'll cover every team, we'll go over

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Speaker 2: our favorite win totals, futures, predictions, all that jazz. But

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Speaker 2: But let's get right into the ACC. Look, when you

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Speaker 2: and analyst, host of a podcast some of you may

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Speaker 2: work for two four seven at CBS Sports Recruiting Guru.

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Speaker 2: First of all, thanks for joining us. Do you want

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Speaker 1: But that's that's pretty much the only real direction I

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Speaker 1: It's a concern, I think if you're betting Clemson over

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Speaker 1: We see sometime somebody recruits really well, you think, okay,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think you hit the nail on the

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Speaker 2: head with prior. That's I think that's going to be

435
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Speaker 2: the key to the college football season early on. If

436
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Speaker 2: you can nail that how much to account for it

437
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Speaker 2: last year? Because you can look at certain teams that

438
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Speaker 2: even with new coaches and new schemes. Take Boston College

439
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Speaker 2: for example, no COVID positives last year, a lot of

440
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Speaker 2: success in the first year of athlete. Look at a

441
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Speaker 2: team like San Jose State not even being able to

442
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Speaker 2: play home a lot of success last year. So yeah,

443
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Speaker 2: trying to nail that down I think is the key.

444
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Speaker 2: But sticking with Larida State, I know there's been a

445
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Speaker 2: lot of issues with the program over the past a

446
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Speaker 2: few years, and plus there's coaching cultural change, but a

447
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Speaker 2: lot of it in the future is going to come

448
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Speaker 2: down the talent. So where do they stand in regards

449
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Speaker 2: to recruiting? Is it trending up? Are you hopeful that

450
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Speaker 2: the Florida State is going to get back to an

451
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Speaker 2: elite level there?

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Speaker 1: They're doing much better, much faster than I anticipated. To

453
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Speaker 1: be honest, I think Norval has made some really key hires.

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Speaker 1: Marcus Woodson, who was at Auburn, helped him land a

455
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Speaker 1: lot of studs when he was there. He has a

456
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Speaker 1: great relationship with a kid named Travis Hunter, who is

457
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Speaker 1: now the number one player in the whole country. And

458
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Speaker 1: Hunter is basically like lives in Tallahassee already. He seems

459
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Speaker 1: to be there somehow for all of the other kids

460
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Speaker 1: who come and unofficially visit and shows him around town.

461
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Speaker 1: They are doing much better on an offensive line. They

462
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Speaker 1: actually have six offensive lineman committed right now and are

463
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Speaker 1: still very much in it for two more high level

464
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Speaker 1: four stars to the point to where like guys want

465
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Speaker 1: to come play for this new offensive line coach Alex

466
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Speaker 1: Atkins and I was told, we'll take all eight verbal

467
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Speaker 1: commitments and we'll figure out who's scared of playing time

468
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Speaker 1: and who wants to decommit before they you know, later

469
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Speaker 1: on hit the portal. They have a real chance to

470
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Speaker 1: be the first six and six team record wise to

471
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Speaker 1: sign a top ten class in the early signing period era.

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Speaker 1: I mean, nobody's ever done it. And I went back

473
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Speaker 1: and looked. I think the ESPR is kind of a

474
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Speaker 1: key delineation for me because of how early classes are

475
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Speaker 1: wrapped up, and I only look at the regular season wins. Obviously,

476
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Speaker 1: they have a pretty decent chance to do that. Some

477
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Speaker 1: people think top five. I think that's kind of crazy.

478
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Speaker 1: If you land a top ten class going six and six,

479
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Speaker 1: that's not normal, and I think it shows that they

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Speaker 1: are doing a surprisingly good job there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean we know at Action Network that your recruiting

483
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Speaker 3: ranking has a major effect on your chances of making

484
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Speaker 3: the college football playoff In Florida State is another one

485
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Speaker 3: of those Texas A and M's where it's just you

486
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Speaker 3: keep bringing them in. At some point we're gonna get

487
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Speaker 3: it figured out. And I like Mike Norvel, I'm willing

488
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Speaker 3: to wipe last year away. Have a few takeaways with

489
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Speaker 3: Travis and some of the offensive line, but he is

490
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Speaker 3: definitely not somebody I think is on the radar to

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Speaker 3: be fired this year. I think his job the safety.

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Speaker 3: He even had COVID last year, right, even he missed

493
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Speaker 3: the game, So I think last year's a complete watch.

494
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Speaker 3: He is definitely not up for the hot seat in

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Speaker 3: this conference. But two names I can't decide who I

496
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Speaker 3: think are going to get fired first is Dino Babers

497
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Speaker 3: and Justin Wintes. And the more I studied these two teams,

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Speaker 3: I cannot. I mean, then know the recruits have not

499
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Speaker 3: come in for Syracuse and we have not been able

500
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Speaker 3: to capitalize on the twenty eighteen. I mean, even when

501
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Speaker 3: Dungee was there, the offensive line was a mess and

502
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Speaker 3: he was all over the place. And with Justin winter Is,

503
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Speaker 3: there's just a really there's such an instability, especially on

504
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Speaker 3: the defensive side. We got suspensions, we got COVID, we

505
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Speaker 3: got drugs, we got you know, charges, we got everything

506
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Speaker 3: going on with this side of the defense. And then

507
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Speaker 3: the offense we've got you know, Khalil Herbert moving on

508
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Speaker 3: and Hendon Hooker moving to Tennessee, and you know, I

509
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Speaker 3: just can't figure out where this when the stability is

510
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Speaker 3: going to come, which will eventually turn into success rate

511
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Speaker 3: and not just explosive plays on both sides of the

512
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Speaker 3: ball which dictate all Virginia Tech's games. It's either twenty

513
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Speaker 3: eight point blowout or they're in it, and then the

514
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Speaker 3: fourth quarter it just all gets blown to hell. So asking,

515
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Speaker 3: you know, coming back to it, who's the first coach

516
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Speaker 3: to get fired out of this conference?

517
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Speaker 1: So the weird thing here is I actually, you know,

518
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Speaker 1: we had to pick them when we did the show.

519
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Speaker 1: I went over on both these teams at you know,

520
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Speaker 1: three point zero for Syracuse and then seven flat for

521
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Speaker 1: the Hokies. Just I had to pick him, Like I

522
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Speaker 1: definitely would not touch votech. I think Syracuse over three

523
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: at at minus dollar twenty is not that bad. Actually

524
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Speaker 1: not that I want to double all my money into futures.

525
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Speaker 1: I have to think it. Fwinte has a better chance,

526
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Speaker 1: just because I think he was probably closer to it

527
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Speaker 1: this past fall when they sent out that email about Hey,

528
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Speaker 1: we're going to call press conference and discussed the future

529
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Speaker 1: of the program. The Beat writers who covered va Tech

530
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Speaker 1: thought that it was they were going to fire Justin

531
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Speaker 1: Fuinteck because it was coincidentally sent like the day that

532
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Speaker 1: his buyout dropped. Nobody thought Syracu was going to fired,

533
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Speaker 1: you know, Babers last year. I know Pete Thamil reported

534
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Speaker 1: that his buyout was just something astronomical. And I don't

535
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Speaker 1: know that it actually drops that much this year. So

536
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Speaker 1: if I had to bet on it, I would go

537
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Speaker 1: I would go Finte. And yet I could see a

538
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Speaker 1: situation where the Hokies are okay, right. Their secondary last

539
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: year was pretty decimated by COVID, and they kind of

540
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: went like Brandon Staley Los Angeles Rams, you know, dropped

541
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Speaker 1: everybody back. Hey, we're going to allow the run. We're

542
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Speaker 1: just trying to limit this explosive pass plays. And you

543
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: could really see some of the games where people would

544
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Speaker 1: just rip off six and seven yards a pop for

545
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Speaker 1: them on the ground, and that's that's not what I

546
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Speaker 1: think they intend to do this year. I think their

547
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: receiving core, including the tight end, are really quite good.

548
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: I think the choice to go with Burmeister is interesting

549
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: to me. It indicates they want to throw the football

550
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: a lot more this season. So I'm you know, I

551
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Speaker 1: think if they're stopping the run a little bit more,

552
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe challenging people to pass on them. Maybe they're

553
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Speaker 1: throwing the football more themselves. You guys know what to

554
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Speaker 1: do with that. But I think there's downside on this

555
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Speaker 1: team too. They've not recruited exceptionally well. They have had

556
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Speaker 1: a lot of transfers out. I could see that being

557
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Speaker 1: something that's that he gets fired.

558
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think one of the issues I agree with

559
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Speaker 2: outside secondary. If you get Waller back at one corner,

560
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Speaker 2: spot strong at the other, that has potential. Something that

561
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Speaker 2: is talking about is the depth though. The depth is

562
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Speaker 2: a is a major issue, and that is with a

563
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Speaker 2: lot of the transers that are going out, so you know,

564
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Speaker 2: you have certain injuries at pockets that could go south

565
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Speaker 2: quickly or Vottec. We've talked about some of the top

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Speaker 2: teams in the conference and mentioned a few others. Is

567
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Speaker 2: there another team that we haven't mentioned that you're higher

568
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Speaker 2: on relative to the market that you think might be

569
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Speaker 2: a sleeper not necessarily to contend for an ACC title,

570
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Speaker 2: but just to maybe go over their win total or uh,

571
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Speaker 2: you know, perform better than most are thinking right now.

572
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So what I want to point to, which which

573
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Speaker 1: I bet when it came out, I talked to Colin

574
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Speaker 1: about this, it's actually gone up a little bit. I

575
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Speaker 1: still like it is NC State. N C State is

576
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Speaker 1: is a pretty stable team overall. When I was doing

577
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Speaker 1: my All AC team, they didn't have a lot of

578
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Speaker 1: guys that made my first team All A CEC, but

579
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Speaker 1: they had a ton of dudes who I think are

580
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Speaker 1: very likely to be second team al AC players. You know,

581
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Speaker 1: guys who will probably make an NFL roster, maybe not

582
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Speaker 1: get not get picked. And if you have a lot

583
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Speaker 1: of those guys, you're going to have a pretty good

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Speaker 1: football team. You know, they're they're at Clemson, or the

585
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Speaker 1: there the host Clemson, they're at Miami. Those are probably

586
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Speaker 1: losses in what other game are they going to be

587
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Speaker 1: a dog of more than a field goal? Though I

588
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Speaker 1: don't really see it. I think that they are a

589
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Speaker 1: better team the Mississippi State. I like them on both

590
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Speaker 1: sides of the line of scrimmage, how they've recruited. They

591
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Speaker 1: also are an interesting team and maybe under radar in

592
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Speaker 1: this regard. You circle those teams that had to install

593
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: new schemes on both sides of the ball, and for

594
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Speaker 1: the most part, you're circling teams with new coaching stats.

595
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Speaker 1: NC State actually had a new OC and a new

596
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Speaker 1: DC last year, so they were kind of under the

597
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: radar in the same boat of hey, we're doing zoom

598
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: installs on stuff. They're also if you use their twenty

599
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: twenty priors, you have to use Bailly Howkson. Devin Learry

600
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Speaker 1: is a much better athlete and has a better arm,

601
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Speaker 1: and I think put up better performances against the better

602
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Speaker 1: teams that they faced. If he can stay healthy, there's

603
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Speaker 1: a lot of reason to believe that. I think this

604
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Speaker 1: number should be seven. Personally, I like NC State a

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Speaker 1: decent bit.

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Speaker 3: Anytime you're in the ACC and you can field an

607
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Speaker 3: experienced secondary that can stop explosive plays and you've got

608
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Speaker 3: explosiveness at your skill positions, that puts you ahead of

609
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Speaker 3: half the ACC teams already. So we'll talk about NC

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Speaker 3: State later on the pod.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Gibson's doing there with with his you

612
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Speaker 2: know the three three five ste They have great linebackers

613
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Speaker 2: to just run a lot of you know, zero blitz

614
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Speaker 2: and just being Wilson really more last year. Yeah, if

615
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Speaker 2: Wilson kind of the quarterback of their defense and Leary

616
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Speaker 2: can stay healthy, because that that is one concerned you

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Speaker 2: can't predict injuries. But Leary if as long as he's healthy,

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Speaker 2: because I think there was a freshman I got to

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Speaker 2: look to see how talented their backup quarterback is. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: if he can stay healthy, it's a dangerous team. Look,

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Speaker 2: we appreciate you taking the time to join us today.

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Speaker 2: Great insight. As always, Where can people find you and

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks again to Bud. Great stuff there, Collins,

660
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Speaker 2: and let's let's dive into I guess we can start

661
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Speaker 2: in the Atlantic, where the story is pretty simple. I mean,

662
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Speaker 2: we don't really see anyone knocking off Clemson, but their

663
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Speaker 2: win total is at bet MGM is over eleven and

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Speaker 2: a half plus one oh five at BETEMGM, the officialized

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Speaker 2: provider of the Action Howork podcast. Generally speaking, you're probably

666
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Speaker 2: going to pay a premium for these teams at the top.

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Speaker 2: You know, your Alabama's, your Clemsons. I'm at of like

668
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: eleven one, eleven two. If I had to play it.

669
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Speaker 2: I think there's a little bit of value on the

670
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Speaker 2: under I am not. They obviously open up with Georgia

671
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: week one. That line's you know, hovering anywhere between three

672
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Speaker 2: four and five. This you know, over the past few months,

673
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: they win that game decent chance. Clemson runs the table.

674
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Speaker 2: They have a pretty favorable schedule. They're obviously the best

675
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Speaker 2: team in the agency, but they only face one team,

676
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Speaker 2: one team in conference that had a winning record last year.

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Speaker 2: Where are you at with Clemson?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in the same space as you. I mean,

679
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: eleven point one is the win total that I have.

680
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: That's an accumulation of their win expectancy for each one

681
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 3: of their games with the points spreads that are put

682
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 3: out there. And I just have to say, like from

683
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: a conference and division point of view, at minus two

684
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: thousand to win the division, you know, just some ridiculously

685
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: high numbers. It's not what they should be. I mean,

686
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 3: the odds, there's no edge here, and I think that

687
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: the numbers that were put out for conference and division

688
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: are just odds makers saying we don't want any piece

689
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Speaker 3: of anybody having futures tickets on Clemson. I would venture

690
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 3: to say they have about zero when you look at

691
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: these conference odds and divisions. So I mean the deck

692
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: is certainly stacked against the acc In terms of Clemson,

693
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Speaker 3: I mean, there were plenty of questions coming into twenty

694
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Speaker 3: twenty season and experienced offensive line, the rebuild of the

695
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Speaker 3: defensive front. Seven season ending injury to Justin Ross left

696
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence with a really small number of receptions returning

697
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: like Nagata, only had a handful you know, fast forward

698
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: a year later and the Tigers have reloaded. From a

699
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: talent perspective, probably have the number one overall pick in

700
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Speaker 3: DJU of Gleily twenty twenty three draft going to be

701
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Speaker 3: a while till we get to there. So DJ is

702
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 3: going to be around. But this defensive front seven may

703
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: challenge twenty eighteen version as the best the program has

704
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Speaker 3: ever fielded. There is no doubt that this Clemson defense

705
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: can challenge as the best defense in college football this season.

706
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Speaker 3: The offense just returns forty seven percent, So you would,

707
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 3: you know, kind of you know, look down on that,

708
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: considering the national average around seventy seven percent. But I've

709
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Speaker 3: said this about Ohio State, you know, I mean, there's

710
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Speaker 3: I've said this about other teams that recruit at this level.

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Speaker 3: Does it matter that they're only returning forty seven percent?

712
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Speaker 3: Does it matter that DJ's replacing Trevor. DJ looked just

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Speaker 3: fine in a game against Notre Dame. And there's solid

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Speaker 3: nun quantity at quarterback. The offensive line positions, you know,

715
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: we are starting with a new center, a new tackle.

716
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Speaker 3: So those are things to keep your eye on. As

717
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: far as the health of DJ. The top three targets

718
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: in the past game have all moved on from their

719
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: combined one hundred and seventy eight receptions. There is experience

720
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Speaker 3: with DJ Williams and Frank Ladson and Joseph Megatta, but

721
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: really the health of Justin Ross, I think is something

722
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: that we have to keep an eye on because he's

723
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Speaker 3: made statements like once I'm cleared, I'm just you know,

724
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Speaker 3: I'm going to play everywhere. I'm gonna be on the outside,

725
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be in the slot, and I'm gonna put

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Speaker 3: them everywhere that i want to be on the field.

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Speaker 3: And I think another thing to keep an eye on

728
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 3: is Lynn J. Dixon, who has waited patiently behind Travis

729
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: et and to get some playing time. You really want

730
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Speaker 3: to try to handicap like what Etn meant to the offense,

731
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: but really what he meant to the passing game. He

732
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: was just, you know, the definition of elusiveness. He was

733
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: the definition of yards after contact. And so we give

734
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Speaker 3: Lynn J. Dixon, you know, as a backup role. He

735
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: created sixteen misst tackles in forty two rushing attempts. That's

736
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Speaker 3: a pretty good rate. If he's able to maintain four

737
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Speaker 3: yards after contact, then we're looking at, you know, some

738
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Speaker 3: elusive miss ratings that can be good enough to replace

739
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 3: what Travis Etn had. So I think Lindja Dickson has

740
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Speaker 3: the talent to do it. But now he's actually, you know,

741
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Speaker 3: the guy, he's not the backup coming in when they

742
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 3: got a twenty eight point lead on Pitt From a

743
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: defensive perspective, like I said, best defense in college football

744
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: from the front seven perspective, tenth and finishing drives second

745
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: in defensive havoc. Brent Vennables continues to not just rake paychecks,

746
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: but he continues to terrorize just opposing quarterbacks and teams.

747
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 3: Eleven games on this schedule after Georgia are just going

748
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: to be just insane point spreads. I mean, everything's going

749
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: to be double digits, just out of hand for anybody

750
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: to try to beat these guys, they do lose. Darien

751
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 3: Kendrick transferred to Georgia. He'll line up in the secondary

752
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 3: against this former team, start in game one. Mike Jones

753
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 3: Junior was a huge part of the pass game defense.

754
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 3: He was one of their best coverage blindbackers that they

755
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: had on the team. One of the best coverage guys alone.

756
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: Doesn't matter. He wasn't secondary, and now he's moved on

757
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: to LSU. Super senior James Skalski is back, you know,

758
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: famously the captain of the defense, calling in all the

759
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 3: plays and probably got a few ejections that he probably

760
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: shouldn't have for spearing. He's got to keep his head

761
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: up this year. NC State's the only conference opponent that

762
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Speaker 3: they play that had a winning record the ACC last year.

763
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: Non conference games include Yukon, South Carolina State, and South Carolina.

764
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Speaker 3: Just you know, put them on a tee and line

765
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Speaker 3: them all up. You know, it gives the Tigers just

766
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 3: these pseudo bye weeks where they can you know, play

767
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 3: their backups and get him experience for next year. To me,

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Speaker 3: the true odds should be minus seven thirty for the Atlantic,

769
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Speaker 3: should be minus two ten for the ACC. There are

770
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Speaker 3: some tricky spots on the schedule, you know, Clemson Loston

771
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 3: Conference played to Pitt in twenty sixteen, Syracuse in twenty seventeen.

772
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 3: Boston College comes to town after putting up twenty eight

773
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 3: points last year. That's an offense that can put up

774
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 3: some points here. Win total projection eleven point one ish

775
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Speaker 3: eleven point two suggests a play on the under but

776
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: really I think the best play is to take Georgia

777
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 3: money line week one, not to get ahead of it

778
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: five four or five weeks ahead as we're podcasting here.

779
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 3: But if you want to take the under on this

780
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 3: Clemson team, you can either a bet the under and

781
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 3: see if DJ gets hurt with a brand new center

782
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: and a brand new tackle in place with Jackson Carmen.

783
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 3: Or you could just take Georgia, which is going to

784
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 3: be better than what the under eleven juice is and

785
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: get that, you know, unless you want to plan on

786
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: them losing a game that they shouldn't lose on the

787
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 3: remainder of the schedule. But I think if you want

788
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: to take the under here, you take the dog in Georgia.

789
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: As far as you know, they're priced out of the market,

790
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 3: completely priced out of the market. And this is a

791
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: podcast from my perspective that's going to say they're a

792
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 3: no buy. There's no actionable, there's no deliverable with Clemson football.

793
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: I'm almost leveraging Clemson to that spot for Georgia in that,

794
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: you know, I have a Georgia national title feature at

795
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: eight to one, and then I recently just played Georgia

796
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 2: plus one seventy five to make the College Football Playoff

797
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 2: because I think that there's two routes that can happen.

798
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 2: Right if they beat Clemson week one and then get

799
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: to the SEC Championship, really good shot that they're going

800
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: to be there. If they run the table then lose

801
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: to say Alabama, or even if they lose the Clempson

802
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: they can still run the table, win the SEC Championship,

803
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: and get into the College for Wall playoff. So you're

804
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: not dead in Week one, but you're in a really

805
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: good spot if Georgia does be Clemps in Week one.

806
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: I agree, the clinch is not without flaws. We talked

807
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 2: about the quarterback depth issues, so obviously you can't predict

808
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: an injury, but that's certainly a concern. I want to

809
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: see how the offensive line comes together. They were replacing

810
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: the whole unit last year. Their yards per carry last

811
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: year dropped from six point four to four point five,

812
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: so let's see how the rushing offense went. I mean,

813
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: they lost a lot of talent. You know, you lost

814
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Speaker 2: ETN Trevor, Lawrence Powell and Rogers on the outside to

815
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 2: the NFL. But they're going to reload from a skill

816
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 2: possession perspective. I do want to see how the offensive

817
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 2: line works out and the defensive line and linebacking units

818
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: are should be elite. And if they take that next

819
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: step as you talked about with Bud, that's going to

820
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: help out the secondary, which was exposed at times last year,

821
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: especially against Ohio State. So but if they're getting you know,

822
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: that dominant pressure, that's only going to help this secondary.

823
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, not much to do with Clemson staying in

824
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Speaker 2: the Atlantic. You know, the way that I would kind

825
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: of group the Atlantic is I would say Clemson's obviously

826
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 2: the top dog, Syracuse is in the basement, and then

827
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 2: you know, you have the kind of that next tier

828
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: of just a bunch of teams that are you can

829
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Speaker 2: look at their wind toots. They're all gonna between you know,

830
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 2: five and a half and seven Boston College, NC State,

831
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Speaker 2: Wake Forest, Florida State, and Louisville. I'll cover BC a

832
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: little teaser in our three and out as one of

833
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: my favorite bets. We'll Bud talk a little bit about

834
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Speaker 2: NC State. I think that number happens to be right.

835
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Speaker 2: We can get into Wake, Florida State, or Louisville.

836
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Speaker 3: Where do you want to start? Yeah, I mean we

837
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: might as well start off with Wake. You know, they're

838
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 3: over seven minus one twenty at bet MGM and Dave

839
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 3: Classon enters his eight season as the Demon Deacons head coach,

840
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 3: and he'll return every starter from the Duke's Male Bowl

841
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 3: lost to Wisconsin way Forest rank nineteenth and finishing drives

842
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty getting as many points possible during some

843
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: their at ten. But you know, success right outside the

844
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 3: top fifty. There was a lot of inconsistencies with this program.

845
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: Now we've had some recent injuries, to say, on the

846
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: offensive line, just around the lineup in general, a sacrate

847
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: of ninety ninth. You know that the too deep on

848
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 3: the offensive line. I'm not sure if that is going

849
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: to improve any One thing is that Sam Hartman had

850
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: a top twenty passing attack in terms of expected points.

851
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 3: So from an explosiveness perspective, wait can put some points

852
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 3: up on the board fast. Not exactly the most successful offense.

853
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: But you know, one key element that may regress for

854
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 3: Hartman is that he had thirteen turnover worthy plays last

855
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 3: season and he had just five interceptions. And when I

856
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: say turnover worthy plays, I mean he put the ball

857
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: in the spot in the air where it should have

858
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 3: been picked off and bad things should have happened. Only

859
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: five interceptions last season, so the sophomore was sacked twenty

860
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: five times, which may have contributed to the turnover worthy plays.

861
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 3: And he's got to cut down his passing attempts whereas

862
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: target's just not available. You know, Jacquarie Robinson has a

863
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 3: chance to improve after making second team All CC in

864
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, but eighty seven targets last season, Junior had

865
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: just four drops and four hundred and eighteen yards after

866
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 3: the catch. That is the kind of you know, explosive

867
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 3: weapon that Hartman needs on the outside. But they're gonna

868
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: have to find, you know, some other pieces. The defense

869
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: wasn't without its own issues. I mean they ranked top

870
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 3: ninety and tackling success rate, finishing drives. I mean, there's

871
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 3: all kinds of holes going on here. For coordinator Lyle

872
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 3: hempfull enters his fifth season. He has a tart percentage

873
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 3: of seventy five percent ja Kez Williams. He departs the

874
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: program a team leading seventy three tackles and the Demon

875
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: Deacons were fifty second in Havoc. But you know most

876
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: of those players return just sir, Taylor's six PBUs nick

877
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: Anderson's four interceptions. There are no signs that this wake

878
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: Forest defense can take a step up in improving a

879
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 3: very low success rate, but playing a high level pass

880
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: coverage maybe enough when the offense is clicking. And that's

881
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 3: really kind of you know, Ben, don't break, get all

882
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 3: the yards and we'll stop you when it counts. And

883
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: my win to the projection six point nine, it's no

884
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 3: play for me. There's some injuries that are going on.

885
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 3: Don't trust the offensive line. Hartman's got to keep, you know,

886
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: putting himself in danger and making turnover worthy plays. They

887
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: can be explosive. I think they're a team to play

888
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: spot on. But I'm definitely not going over this win total.

889
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right. I'm right right at seven ish, so

890
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: I'm not playing anything there. I mean, they could go

891
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: technically six and oh at home, which you know you'll

892
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: probably get there if they do. They start Old Dominion,

893
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: Norfolk State in Florida State at home. Yeah, could start

894
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: three and oh there, and then they also have Louisville,

895
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: NC State and Duke at home. So not out of

896
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: the realm. With possibility that they could go six and

897
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 2: oht home you know, then you got to pick up

898
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: two road winds. You know you got Clemson, you got BC,

899
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: you got UNC, you know UVA Army, you got q

900
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: So I think the number is right mathematically, and I

901
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: think that they had probably end up as a seven

902
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: win team. They made a Bowl in I think five

903
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: straight years. They were really lucky last year. You know,

904
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 2: if you look, you talked about some of the turnover

905
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: worthy throws they were. They had a turnover marginal plus ten,

906
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: which was four nationally. They went ninety nine snaps between turnovers,

907
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 2: which led the name. They had three interception returns for touchdowns,

908
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: which led the nation. So turnover regression would scare me

909
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: a bit if I was a Wake fan. But they

910
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: are a lot more experience. They were outside the top

911
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: one hundred experience last year, top thirty this year. You

912
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: know as an example that they lost their top five

913
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,959
Speaker 2: wide receivers last year. This year they bring their top

914
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: six back. Sam Harvey, by the way, he just has

915
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: a I like the kid. I like backing him when

916
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: I like Wake. If you haven't seen QB one, by

917
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: the way, it's a good show on Netflix. He was

918
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: featured on one of the seasons when he went to

919
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: just a program that was nothing starting over in South Carolina.

920
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think the number is right. Not much

921
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 2: to do with wake other teams that I mentioned there

922
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: in the Atlantic and kind of that next tier, you know,

923
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: Florida State, Louisville, he got anything there.

924
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I did like I did like Louisville

925
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 3: to start the season with Scott Saderfield, and it's really

926
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: an extremely hard team to project because the amount of

927
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: transfers they've had coming in. Scott Saderfield's I would say dedication,

928
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: but the fact that he had a pen a letter

929
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: to the fan base and the boosters and everybody else

930
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: that he's sorry for interviewing for jobs in the SEC

931
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: after not via Louisville that long.

932
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: You know.

933
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: So the year three comes in the wake of a

934
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 3: restless fan base and flirting with job opportunities, and you know,

935
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 3: the Cardinals will look to have again the most explosive

936
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: ground attack behind Maliite Cunningham, Makai Becton isn't there to

937
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 3: just you know, make huge holes in the offensive line.

938
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 3: But there was plenty of activity in the transfer portal.

939
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: Jawan Passes Left Town, Georgia Southern quarterback shy Wortz comes in,

940
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 3: but he's not going to be running the triple option

941
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 3: at Louisville. He's going to be playing wide receiver. You know,

942
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 3: the offensive line returns every piece, but they have got

943
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 3: to improve outside the top one hundred and havoc allowed

944
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 3: and in the line yard so they couldn't push the trench,

945
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 3: and they couldn't protect Malik Cunningham and almost seventy percent

946
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 3: returns on the offense. The missing pieces on the defense

947
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: may lead to high scoring games. There's gonna be a

948
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 3: lot of overs. I'll probably betting on Louisville. Two of

949
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: the top seven tacklers returned on the defensive side. But

950
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 3: I mean some of their pieces are just they have

951
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: a dreadful rank outside the top one hundred and defending

952
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 3: explosives corner. You know, Cotrell Clark recorded ten pass breakups

953
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: after being targeted only thirty nine times. What's interesting about

954
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 3: those ten pvus The attempts at him stopped, Like after

955
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: the first three games, offenses figured out that we're just

956
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 3: not going to throw at Clark. So at least he

957
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: cuts the field in half. And that's a big weapon

958
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 3: to have inside the acc you know, I think he

959
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 3: just had eight targets for the remainder of the season

960
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: after the first three games. So along with Wurtz and

961
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: Georgia Southern came safety Kendrick Duncan from Georgia Southern. So

962
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 3: he recorded five pass breakups for the Eagles. So there

963
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: is some influx of transfers in almost every unit on

964
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 3: this team, and I mean, I think it's there's a

965
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: lot of optimism here for the kind of talent that

966
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 3: they brought in. But you know, Souderfield's got to improve

967
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 3: havoc allowed and defending explosiveness. His defensive coordinator Brian Brown

968
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: that he brought over from app State. I mean, he's

969
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: got to get all the transfers to increase their efficiency.

970
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 3: Stopped the chains from moving. They had a tackling rank

971
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 3: of sixty six. I mean, it's kind of in the middle,

972
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 3: a little bit of vanilla that has to get better.

973
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: The projection is seven point eight, you know, I mean

974
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: it says that that can happen, but you know, there's

975
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 3: just something with this program. The Cardinals pull the two

976
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: lowest rated coastal teams on the schedule. That's beefing up

977
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 3: my projected win total. Duke in Virginia. They only have

978
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: four true road games on the schedule, including coin flips

979
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 3: with Wake and Florida State. With aggression in the turnover department,

980
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: Louisville's a prime candidate to return to bull season and

981
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 3: eclipse six victories here, but you're depending on transfer portal

982
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: and a week schedule.

983
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm way lower than you on Louisville. I have

984
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: no play here. I'm at like six three, six four.

985
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: Their wine total under six and a half minus one

986
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: fifteen at ft MGM. I think it's most likely scenario.

987
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: So it probably comes down to the Kentucky game at

988
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: the end of the year. But yeah, they had some

989
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: turnover on the staff with some coaches leaving. You obviously

990
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: lose at well Fitzpatrick and Hawkins, three of your best

991
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 2: offensive players. Cunningham, his turnover issues still concern me. I

992
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: know that. You know, on the surface, from a Russian

993
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 2: standpoint one hundred and nineteenth in the nation last year

994
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 2: and turnover margin at minus twelve. We just talked about

995
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: Waight plus ten. They were with the other side of

996
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 2: the coin and they're zero to four and one score games.

997
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: So on the surface, it's like, oh, this is a

998
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: prime candidate to flip some of those losses into wins.

999
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 2: But I am very concerned about the defense that the secondary,

1000
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: which was the strength of the team. The past defense

1001
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: wasn't bad. Last year the run defense was hard. It's gutted,

1002
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: you know, you have to dunk and work out. But

1003
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: the too deep is filled with freshmen. So no play

1004
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 2: for me on Louisville. I have more questions than I

1005
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: do confident answers when it comes to Sadderfield's bunch just

1006
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: to close out the Atlantic number wise, do you have

1007
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: you know because we'll cover these teams or already have

1008
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: do you have any value on BC or NC State?

1009
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 3: I do you know? These are two teams that definitely

1010
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: need to be discussed here a little bit. But I

1011
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: think I'm going to save NC State for later, and

1012
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 3: I think if you want to go into BC now,

1013
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: the problem with me is bet MGM is over seven

1014
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 3: at minus one thirty and Boston College is a number

1015
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: that I make at seven point eight. So really the juice,

1016
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: you know, kind of ticks it up more than seven

1017
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 3: what you're paying for. So really it isn't really off

1018
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 3: the projection that I have one thing. There's there's just

1019
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: a few things. This is a few things that bothered

1020
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 3: me about BC. I know there's a lot of hype

1021
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 3: here that explains why it's minus one thirty. That's why

1022
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 3: everybody's been hitting this over on the wind total. And

1023
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 3: I get it from quarterback play, you know, from halfway

1024
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 3: getting his system in on both sides of the ball. Technically, mathematically,

1025
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 3: this is over. But there's just plenty of questions for

1026
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: me in the offensive backfield and the entire defense. September schedule,

1027
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: Boston College, well should get off to a positive start.

1028
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 3: If you can get positive momentum and get going through

1029
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: the ACC schedule, you know, they're projectively within a touchdown

1030
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: of every game after they played Clemson. Clemson is the

1031
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: ACC opener. After that, they're going to be within a

1032
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 3: touchdown of everybody. And this is the ACC. And by

1033
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 3: the way, if you didn't know the ACC, the spread

1034
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: like doesn't matter. This is the one conference where like

1035
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 3: there's blowouts in every single conference game and the average

1036
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 3: margin of victory is usually greater than a touchdown. So, uh,

1037
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: you know there are games where BC's gonna blow some

1038
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 3: teams out, and you know, I think some of their

1039
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 3: defensive numbers one hundred and tenth in defensive success rate.

1040
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 3: That just doesn't get fixed overnight, don't. You can't transfer

1041
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 3: portal your way into a much better ranking of that.

1042
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 3: So that does give me pause. But they have the

1043
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 3: offense to absolutely overcome some of that, I mean ninety

1044
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 3: third defensive havoc. That gives me a little pause. Also,

1045
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: can't take the ball away, and what happens if you

1046
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 3: run into a team like an Army or a Coastal

1047
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 3: Carolina that's going to flop a nine minute drive on

1048
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 3: you in the fourth quarter, so you know your quarterback

1049
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: can't win the game. So those are the questions that

1050
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 3: I have. I think it's properly priced when you consider

1051
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 3: the juice at a flat seven, I'd taken over.

1052
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm I still like BC over seven muchs

1053
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 2: Well there, I'm extremely on BC. Maybe I'm just drinking

1054
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: too much kool aid. But they and they haven't won

1055
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,959
Speaker 2: eight games in ten years I think maybe two thousand

1056
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: and nine ten. But what it comes down to for

1057
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: me is, I think, you know, we talked about this,

1058
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 2: trying to evaluate the priors from last year. How much

1059
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 2: do we take from it? And I take a lot

1060
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: from what Halfley did number one. I love Hathley, and

1061
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 2: you saw the turnaround he had at Ohio State with

1062
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: that defense. I'm expecting a huge bump this year. I

1063
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 2: know they lost their linebackers, but especially in the secondary,

1064
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 2: I expect a huge bump this year just because of

1065
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 2: Hafley being there and what he did last year. Coming

1066
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 2: in in year one and implementing new schemes during the

1067
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: COVID year was tremendous. On top of that, they had

1068
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: over eight thousand COVID tests not a single positive test. Obviously,

1069
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: there's a lot of ramness in that, but I think

1070
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: that speaks of the culture change of BC. Not not

1071
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: one person had a positive test the entire season. I

1072
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: think these kids are buying in. Obviously, if Djerkovic and

1073
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: NFL caliber quarterback, that offensive line and there's talent on

1074
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: the outside, they bring a ton of talent back to

1075
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: you know, they get White back from injury. I'm very

1076
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 2: high on Gil, but I like the receivers. They lose

1077
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: David Bailey at running back, but I think it's positive

1078
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 2: in a way. He's a more of a bruiser there.

1079
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: You know, their their zone runs. I think you need

1080
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 2: quicker backs, which they now have, and that offensive line

1081
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 2: which could have four NFL players future NFL players on it,

1082
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five returning starts, one of the

1083
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 2: best offensive lines in the country on paper. I think

1084
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: they take a jump forward as well after learning a

1085
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: new scheme in New Splits, So I think everything is

1086
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: trending up. And then I look at their schedule and

1087
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: I get it what you say about the ACC but

1088
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: they only have one unwinnable road game. So I'm in

1089
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: on BC. More on that later right up on Action

1090
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: Network cap too. Yeah.

1091
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 3: Really, the offense beat expectations last year because I had

1092
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 3: questions on offensive coordinator Frank Signetti because he had spent

1093
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 3: just the majority of the previous like fifteen years as

1094
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 3: a quarterbacks coach in the NFL. I just didn't believe

1095
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 3: last year that being in quarterback coach in the NFL

1096
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 3: would translate to schematically building a game plan for an

1097
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 3: offense and coaching the offensive line, coaching the wide receivers,

1098
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 3: coaching you know, different units. When you've been a quarterback

1099
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: coach for so long in the NFL, to get eighteen

1100
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 3: year old kids on your hands and diagram plays for

1101
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 3: him just seemed to be a little bit different of

1102
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 3: a job, and really it turned out pretty well. Forty

1103
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 3: eighth in offensive success rate. You know, they were top

1104
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 3: forty in an EPA in the past game. The offensive

1105
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 3: line only allowed twelve sacks on the season, but they

1106
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 3: kind of failed in run blocking grades if you go

1107
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: deep into PFF run blocking grades. I mean, BC wasn't

1108
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 3: high up there. So the rushing offense is obviously a question.

1109
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 3: But what Signette was able to do with this offense

1110
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 3: exceeded my expectations considering what his position was in the

1111
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 3: NFL for so long.

1112
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 2: Yep, and then closing out the Atlantic, we have to

1113
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 2: go to the basement and all of our loyal listeners

1114
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 2: in the Syracuse area. We'll get mad if we don't

1115
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: cover Syracuse that one win last year. Now, there was

1116
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 2: a lot that went against them, specifically on the offensive line,

1117
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: which was just a mess. I mean, we talked about

1118
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: this leading up to the season. They were moving you know,

1119
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 2: I think a full back to guard. It was just

1120
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 2: a mess. Tons of injuries, the offensive line out over

1121
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 2: one hundred starts, returning a lot more experience. How much

1122
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: better can the offensive line get? That's gonna be a

1123
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: huge question and I think that it'll ultimately probably determine

1124
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 2: if Syracuse goes over or under their win total. Can

1125
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: the offensive line just give them time? Then if the

1126
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: quarterbacks do get time, whether that's d Vedo or Schrader

1127
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: who transferred from Mississippi State, does everything just get better

1128
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 2: with the offensive line defense? You know, they had new

1129
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: schemes last year too. Lose a lot of NFL talent

1130
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: in the back end, but there's some experience here. I'm

1131
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 2: not an accuse believer right now where that's headed. I

1132
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: think that they had an advantage in the conference, like

1133
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago when they were just going

1134
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 2: fast right, just fast fast, But like that's all over now,

1135
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 2: so you know they're just the talent, isn't there. I

1136
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 2: know that Bud mentioned he likes Syracuse over or played over. Look,

1137
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: they're over three minus one twenty five at bed end GM.

1138
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: I'm at three point one, and I think I think

1139
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: that if you like Cus at all, it'll probably come

1140
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 2: down to the Ohio game, which is Week one, and

1141
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 2: it's a pick. I believe the line is still pick, so

1142
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: instead of locking up your money now, obviously it could

1143
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: still go over without that one, but if they lose

1144
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 2: that game, it's be tough for them to get to four.

1145
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a no play for me. I think

1146
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: the Ohio game will probably end up swinging. You'll need

1147
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: that if you're going to get to four more.

1148
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 3: Well, first off, my projection on Syracuse is three point four,

1149
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: but EMBETMGM total over three minus one sixty five, So

1150
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 3: that certainly gobbles up that point four aspect of the

1151
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 3: projection that I have, and it leads right into the

1152
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 3: handicap that you said. But if you like the over

1153
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 3: on this team, which mathematically I think they should go

1154
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 3: over three wins, I believe minus one pick is available

1155
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 3: everywhere against Ohio team that just lost Frank Solich. Like

1156
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: nobody's coaching Ohio except Frank Solich since like two thousand

1157
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 3: and four. So you know this, to me, if you're

1158
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 3: going to take a win total over, you might as

1159
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 3: well just put your money down against the Bobs in

1160
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 3: the first week, especially if they're going to change your

1161
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 3: offensive identity. We will get to a mac preview with

1162
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 3: our group of five, but you know, I think outside

1163
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 3: of Albany, there's not really an abundance of games that

1164
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 3: could be marked as a win. You know, besides the

1165
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 3: Ohio game, Rutgers is a coin flip at home, while

1166
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 3: Wake Forest and Boston College they'll be touchdown favorites over them.

1167
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 3: So you know, the good news is there are winnable games,

1168
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: the ones that they could win, the ones where they're

1169
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 3: short underdogs. Those all come at home. So if you're

1170
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 3: a believer in Syracuse and the Carrier Dome, you know

1171
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 3: or maybe you know. Quarterback Tommy DeVito returns with with

1172
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 3: with transfer Garrett Strader in the mix, so they got

1173
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 3: some depth at quarterback at least some experience there. You know,

1174
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 3: they have to improve. I can't see eighty three percent

1175
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 3: of your offense back, but you were one hundred and

1176
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 3: twenty fifth and success rate one hundred and twenty fourth

1177
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 3: and finishing drives at one hundred and twenty fourth and

1178
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: offensive havoc allowed? Are you? I mean, this can't get

1179
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 3: any worse from an offensive perspective. So yeah, I do

1180
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 3: like him over Ohio, you know, in the first week,

1181
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 3: just based on the fact that Ohio is going to

1182
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 3: be without Frank Soliz, So that's the handicap with the Orange.

1183
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Bottom ten efficiency, bottom ten finishing drives, bottom ten explosiveness,

1184
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 2: and it all starts up front, so we'll see that

1185
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: there's just I think there's better ways to tie up

1186
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 2: your money than going over under on Syracuse. Let's move

1187
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: on to the Coastal Division, which is a lot more

1188
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 2: interesting race at the top between Miami and North Carolina.

1189
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: The I would say co favorites. Miami I think is

1190
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: nine to one to win the ACC and UNC is

1191
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 2: eight to one, and they're the co favorites to win

1192
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: their division. And the way that I would then kind

1193
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: of tier this the Coastal Division as I go Miami

1194
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: and UNC as your co favorites, and then I have

1195
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 2: like your pests is what I call them, which is

1196
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: pitt UVA and Va Tech and who I wouldn't be

1197
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: surprised if they, you know, upset Miami or UNC. But

1198
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: I also wouldn't be shocked if they dropped a game

1199
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 2: that they were big favorites in, but they'll be annoying

1200
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: to play, and they're in the you know, same region

1201
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: as far as wind totals are concerned. And then you

1202
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: have the bottom, which is Georgia Tech and Duke. So

1203
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: let's let's start up top with the co favorites Miami

1204
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 2: in North Carolina. The big thing worth vetching, which I

1205
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 2: already did, is North Carolina does host Miami. Miami's gonna

1206
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: be out for revenge. They got just pounded. I think

1207
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: North Carolina is still scoring on them last year. They

1208
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 2: will have to go to Chapel Hill this year, but

1209
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 2: they do have a bye before that game. Miami's win

1210
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 2: total Miami's win total over nine and a half plus

1211
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 2: one twenty five, UNC over nine and a half minus

1212
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: one twenty five. You have any Here's the thing with

1213
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 2: North Carolina. By the way, they've been close, and they're

1214
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 2: recruiting very well. We talked about all the talent they

1215
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 2: lost at the skill positions, but their defense should be better.

1216
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 2: Their offensive line is gonna be strong. They have Sam

1217
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: Howe up there for the Heisman. They're very close. Longgo

1218
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: and Bateman. It's like year three, how year three with

1219
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 2: Mac Brown? Year three. Is this the year that they

1220
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: can maybe shot the world and win the ACC They

1221
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: have ten losses over the past two years, eight by

1222
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 2: seven or less. We're going to talk about it. I

1223
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 2: assume maybe today or during the season. Can they get

1224
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: off the quicker starts? Understand how because that's burnt them

1225
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 2: a lot in the past anything with and in Miami

1226
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: obviously just high level Derek king Back huge for a

1227
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: sixth year Manny Diez hopefully going to widespread changes on

1228
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: the defensive staff. Hopefully he can get that defense turned around.

1229
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: That's the hope in Miami. But king Back, the big

1230
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 2: question is is he healthy, especially for the start of

1231
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 2: the season they start against Alabama. All word out there

1232
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 2: is that he's one hundred percent healthy, but it's something

1233
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: to keep in mind because he obviously had a freak

1234
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: injury to end his season last year. So let's start

1235
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 2: at the top. You can start either at North Carolina

1236
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 2: or Miami. Where do you want to go? And do

1237
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 2: you see any value here, whether it's for the division

1238
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: or win total wise?

1239
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we should get the number of the

1240
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: mathematical numbers out of the way, because this is a

1241
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 3: number where I put their conference win total. I mean,

1242
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 3: we're talking about division futures here where bet MGM has

1243
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: them both posted at plus one thirty and this is

1244
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 3: the coastal I mean, anything can happen. I'm not telling

1245
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 3: you to go take Duke eighty to one, or you know,

1246
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 3: even Virginia at least twelve to one. Yeah, don't do that,

1247
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 3: but it is the coastal and crazy things can happen.

1248
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 3: But that game, that heads up game that happens in

1249
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 3: Chapel Hill, it's really kind of the advantage of Miami

1250
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 3: coming off of a bye and they're going up against

1251
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: the North Carolina team that is just coming off Florida State.

1252
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 3: And now say what you want about the state of

1253
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 3: Florida's the state of Florida state football, but it is

1254
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 3: still a game where you know it's not going to

1255
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 3: be easy for them, and you know, with North Carolina

1256
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 3: as great as Michael Carter and Javonte Williams, Tommy Brown,

1257
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: dazz news from these is huge names. I just don't

1258
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 3: see the reason why we don't get the same numbers

1259
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 3: out of ty Chandler in bo Corrales. I mean, there's

1260
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 3: some talented freshmen that the skilled positions of recruiting has

1261
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 3: been fantastic here, Mac Brown's been fantastic. The Jordan logo

1262
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 3: is getting the recruits in. This was the most efficient

1263
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: passing attack in the ACC and Sam how is our

1264
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 3: most favorite fourth quarter quarterback to bet on in the

1265
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: history of college football. Captain comeback. Here, the entire offensive

1266
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 3: line returns, but there has to be improvement. A sacarate

1267
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 3: of one hundred and six that worries me. You know,

1268
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 3: whatever we've got behind Sam Howe. If you've got a

1269
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 3: sacarate a one hundred and sixth, that's not good. So

1270
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 3: the rest of this offense is top ten in the nation,

1271
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 3: top ten and finishing drives seventh and rushing success rate

1272
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 3: sixteenth in line yards. So yes, we are replacing some

1273
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 3: extremely explosive and high success rate skill positions. But the

1274
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 3: entire offensive line comes back and they're the ones that

1275
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 3: are making seventh and rushing success rate and sixteenth in

1276
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 3: line yards. It's highlight yards that are on the running back.

1277
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 3: So this is an offensive line that can plow trenches

1278
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 3: all day and build holes for the running game. But

1279
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 3: the sacrate indicates that there needs to be a little

1280
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 3: bit of work.

1281
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, just to be fair. To be fair, some of

1282
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: that sacrate has to go on Sam how We know

1283
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: that the sacrate, and he's not the most fleet of

1284
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 2: foot guy, so you know that's so you know he's

1285
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: he's going to take some sacks. He's not really going

1286
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: to be able to get out of the pocket and

1287
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: avoid them at times. By the way, Sam how I

1288
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: think with all this uh sponsored stuff is sponsored by

1289
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 2: bo Jangles, and I have never been to a Bojangles.

1290
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I know I have waffles. I have

1291
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: waffle house crossed off. I don't know if that's a

1292
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 2: crime in the South. But my wife just hired a

1293
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 2: new bartender recently a couple months back that used to

1294
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 2: work at Bojangles. So I don't know, is that Is

1295
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: that a bad thing that I've never had Bojangles.

1296
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 5: Tick tick boom, like a powdered keg in your mouth

1297
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 5: sucking style. Because when it comes to down home cooking,

1298
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 5: it's not our first.

1299
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: Rodeo, it's a bow tie.

1300
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to die on a steak

1301
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 3: for Bojangles, but I was going to have a waffle house.

1302
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 3: I mean, the waffle house thing was a little ridiculous.

1303
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 3: I don't know who especially, I don't know how you

1304
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 3: get to this point in life without being in a

1305
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 3: waffle house and so many you know, intoxicated or a

1306
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 3: morning breakfast or you know, it doesn't matter. The waffle

1307
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 3: house is the greatest yellow box in the world.

1308
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, I've crossed that off. But if Bojangles below

1309
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: or above chick fil A.

1310
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,439
Speaker 3: And you're, oh, not even close. I mean a call,

1311
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 3: yeah chicklay. I mean when they open up a Chick

1312
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 3: fil A in Chicago, like it was a three hour

1313
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 3: wait to get your lunch, Like they lined up for

1314
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 3: days around, like they pumped up tents like it was

1315
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:10,919
Speaker 3: opening a college basketball season or something.

1316
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: So those people are crazy, by the way, who who don't.

1317
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 2: I don't care what it is, but I'm not waiting

1318
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: three hours in line like the people that go when

1319
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: you go to a restaurant, man, and you have kids,

1320
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if maybe you do this, I don't

1321
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 2: people have kids who wait or I'm like, oh my god,

1322
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 2: you're waiting with your kids? Who wait? In the I

1323
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: go they say two hour wait, all right later, Like

1324
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: I'm not sitting here for two hours with a buzzer,

1325
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 2: especially with that kids, little kids running around, Like all right,

1326
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 2: you can get chick fil A tomorrow, you really need

1327
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: it on the opening It's going to be the same

1328
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 2: thing tomorrow. But anyway, I digress, go back to what

1329
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 2: you were saying with you and see, Yeah, I mean I.

1330
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 3: Think with North Carolina, the handicap really comes down to

1331
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 3: can the defense tackle in space? That's the handicap for

1332
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 3: the Miami game because that's dearra king out in space

1333
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 3: and creating explosive plays. And you know, there may be

1334
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 3: a reason to think that if North Carolina can't do that,

1335
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 3: they're not going to win this division. Chas Rot was

1336
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 3: a big part of this defense. He had ninety one tackles,

1337
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 3: a half dozen sacks, and three PBUs. I mean, there's

1338
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 3: still plenty of havoc here. I mean Taman Fox had

1339
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 3: seven sacks, Jemiah Gamble had two and a half sacks,

1340
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 3: seven quarterback hits, three and a half tackles and for loss,

1341
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 3: and four pass breakups. I mean that is filling up

1342
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 3: a stat box weekly. So you know, we'll see what

1343
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 3: they are without chas Rot because that really puts the

1344
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 3: focus on everybody else. But they have to get better success.

1345
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 3: Right on the ground, they were just seventy eight. They

1346
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 3: allowed opposing teams to move the chains. They were one

1347
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 3: hundred and fourth defensively in line yards, but they were

1348
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 3: fourteenth and sack right. So again here we are. We

1349
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 3: can get to the quarterback and passing downs, but as

1350
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 3: far as standard downs go, they're just getting beat up

1351
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 3: in line yards and that makes me a little bit

1352
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 3: nervous when it comes to containing deer at King. So

1353
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 3: you know, there's just a big discrepancy there and that

1354
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 3: comes at a price. And because you're so good at

1355
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 3: a sac rate, it was also costing you one hundred

1356
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 3: and seventh in defensive passing EPA, so they were allowing

1357
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 3: some explosive place through the air. I think Miami and

1358
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 3: the division price right now is where it won't be

1359
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 3: as a money line when they go to Chapel Hill.

1360
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know if we want to

1361
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 3: go into Miami's futures, but the wind total at nine

1362
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 3: point five, I've got it at nine point you think

1363
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 3: Miami will be favored at UNC the game should be

1364
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 3: a pick. So it just depends on what oddsmakers make

1365
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 3: Chapel Hill home field advantage. You know, I think some

1366
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 3: look ahead lines had this around two and a half

1367
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 3: or three, but you know, I have it at nine

1368
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 3: point six. They're at nine and a half. And I

1369
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 3: think these teams are so evenly matched. I have them

1370
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 3: like just a fraction of conference win total next to

1371
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 3: each other. So any I would say the same thing,

1372
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 3: if you can get you U and C plus money

1373
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 3: higher than Miami for the division. Then that would be

1374
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 3: the play. It's really all about, you know, who's offering

1375
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 3: the most juice, because it's really dead.

1376
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 2: Even in my opinion, yeah, UNC does as far as

1377
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 2: their win total is concerned. UNC's win total over nine

1378
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 2: and a half minus one twenty at bet MGM, the

1379
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 2: Official Arts Pride or the Action or podcast. I'm at

1380
01:03:55,800 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 2: ten point one, so I would actually lean over. But

1381
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 2: you know, I can bet that Miami game. Probably there's

1382
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: you know, they do have a buye. They avoid Clemson,

1383
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 2: which is good, they have a buye before they go

1384
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,959
Speaker 2: to Notre Dame. There's just some spots where I think,

1385
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:12,959
Speaker 2: all right, I might I might just end up playing

1386
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 2: him here if I like them instead of investing in

1387
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 2: the digital and the difference between over nine and a

1388
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 2: half minus one twenty and ten pot one is not

1389
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 2: enough for me to get involved here. They you know,

1390
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 2: the trickiest game which might decide It could decide the division,

1391
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,919
Speaker 2: it could decide the win total. Open at VA Tech

1392
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 2: in Blacksburg with fans, not an easy game to open

1393
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 2: up your season with. So that's a potentially tricky opener

1394
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,919
Speaker 2: for UNC. Miami also at nine and a half came back.

1395
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: If you assume he's healthy, because behind him is a

1396
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 2: lot of freshmen and a lot of uncertain If he

1397
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 2: goes down, it's so or isn't healthy, it's bad news

1398
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: for Miami. Bring a ton back on a defense. I

1399
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 2: think eighty seven percent of their snaps from last year,

1400
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 2: but the snaps weren't great. Manadas made all kinds of

1401
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 2: changes on the defense. As far as the staff is concerned,

1402
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 2: he's hoping that experience, these coaching changes him kind of

1403
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 2: taking the reins the defense will lead to a draft

1404
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 2: stick improvement on that side of the ball. We will

1405
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 2: see if that's the case. R Att Lashley's back at

1406
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator. We both like him. This team will

1407
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 2: put up points. I think it'll come down to the

1408
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 2: King's health and then how much better is the defense.

1409
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 2: I'm at nine point five on the dot, so over

1410
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 2: nine and a half plus one twenty five, I mean

1411
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 2: it's nothing for me. What do you see with Miami?

1412
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm at nine point six, so I mean the

1413
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 3: win total is really correct. And again, your division teachers

1414
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 3: come down to that game against North Carolina. I think

1415
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 3: it's what's interesting about I'll say it again with North

1416
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 3: Carolina Miami. These two teams finish top twenty five in

1417
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 3: offensive finishing drive and outside the top seventy five and

1418
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 3: defensive finishing drives. So I would expect the game against

1419
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 3: each other is going to have a lot of points.

1420
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 3: There's explosive, you know, weapons all over the place for

1421
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 3: Rhet Lashley, and we like RHT Lashley as an offensive quarter.

1422
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 3: They got to get a little bit more consistent as

1423
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 3: far as moving the chain seventy second offensive success rate,

1424
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 3: but top twenty and finishing drives. Like I said, so

1425
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 3: you know they have some explosive with but the players

1426
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 3: with Cameron Harris and you know with Deer King of course,

1427
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 3: and you know the defense led by Manny Diaz. I

1428
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 3: usually give them the benefit of the doubt. They did

1429
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 3: have a little bit in the recruiting gap as far

1430
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 3: as their edges and their linebackers were concerned. They just

1431
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 3: kind of fell off a cliff there with that Law

1432
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 3: Tech Independence Bowl. But you know, it's just one of

1433
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 3: those things where they have enough coming back on both

1434
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 3: sides of the ball. Deer King is explosive, ninety percent

1435
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 3: comes back to the defense. They could improve on sixty

1436
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 3: eighth in defensive success rate. Defensive success rate a big,

1437
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 3: you know, indicator of whether or not you're going to

1438
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 3: cover games or not. They really kind of fell in

1439
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 3: the middle of the pack seventy fifth, I said in

1440
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 3: defensive finishing drives. They need to amp up the havoc,

1441
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 3: they need to stop the chains many Diaz has got

1442
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 3: to get this back to the defense that Miami is

1443
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 3: known for and being the U we'll see. I think

1444
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 3: that they're going to have some success this year. And

1445
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 3: like I said, I think their their division number is

1446
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 3: a little bit right for the picking still fair enough.

1447
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: Let's get to the past here. Start with Virginia and

1448
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech. Virginia over six and a half minus one

1449
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 2: twenty five and the Virginia Tech over seven and a

1450
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 2: half minus one forty five at ft MGM. Look, I

1451
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: have questions about both teams that you know, Virginia Tech

1452
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 2: their depth, linebacker, safety, major questions there. With Virginia can

1453
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 2: they find a pass rush? Can they stop the explosive

1454
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 2: pass on defense? The offense is still some questions there.

1455
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: I think that look for Virginia Tech over seven a

1456
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: half minus one forty five, I make them seven and

1457
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 2: a half. Virginia over six and a half minus one

1458
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 2: twenty five, I make them five point seven. So I'm

1459
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 2: lower on Virginia than the market. Virginia to me though,

1460
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 2: when I look at their schedule, you know, and look,

1461
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 2: I don't. I probably won't get involved. I definitely not

1462
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 2: get involved with all Tech. But there's a good chance

1463
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: either both or one of these teams win totals or

1464
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 2: decided in the final game of the year when they

1465
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 2: play a job. But Virginia, look, they play They're at UNC,

1466
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 2: at Miami, at Louisville, at BYU, at Pitt so you

1467
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 2: know it's you could say zero and five easily, and

1468
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 2: then they host William and Mary, host Illinois, host Duke,

1469
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 2: and Georgia Tech give them four wins there, four and five.

1470
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,759
Speaker 2: Then they have three swing games at home, Wake Forest,

1471
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, and Virginia Tech. So if you like them,

1472
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 2: you know you're probably gonna have a chance to play

1473
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 2: them in one of those home games, which I think

1474
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 2: probably ends up deciding whether they get to six or seven,

1475
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 2: and a really good chance it comes down to the

1476
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 2: last game of the year against Virginia Tech. So no

1477
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 2: interest from me in either one of these teams. How

1478
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:44,759
Speaker 2: about you in Virginia Virginia Tech.

1479
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 3: Well, Virginia Tech is about impossible to figure out where

1480
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 3: they're going to because there's just no consistency within this program.

1481
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 3: Braxon Burmeister has plenty of explosive weapons around him, but

1482
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 3: can he be protected? And then the defense has every

1483
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 3: I mean from portal from returning players, divine Diabolo moves on,

1484
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,879
Speaker 3: but I mean Jermaine Waller is going to provide stability

1485
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 3: in the back seven. The defensive front is going to

1486
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 3: be boosted by transfer Jordan Williams from Clemson. You know,

1487
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 3: the havoc is going to come in Shamari Connor and

1488
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 3: Amari Barnos, and the Hoky should trend upward after a

1489
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 3: dip outside the top one hundred. On defense, the offense

1490
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 3: is just boom or bust, you know, success rate being

1491
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 3: a problem, explosiveness, you know, happening every once in a while.

1492
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 3: We'll see how it goes with them. I think the

1493
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 3: one thing that needs to be pointed about Virginia Tech

1494
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 3: in their downward turn is that this used to be

1495
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 3: the best special teams team in the nation. They always

1496
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 3: had the best special teams unit with Bud Foster Beamer

1497
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 3: ball it was all about getting points out of special

1498
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 3: teams and on defense, and right now they project to

1499
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 3: have one of the worst special teams unit in all

1500
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 3: of ACC And I think that just speaks volumes about

1501
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 3: the direction of where this program is going. And we

1502
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 3: can blame it on arrest or COVID or whatever. I

1503
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 3: just think Virginia Tech is trending in the wrong direction now.

1504
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 3: The win total deliver action item I think is on

1505
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 3: Virginia a team that I make at five point five

1506
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 3: well under where bet MGM has this. I think you

1507
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 3: know you mentioned the schedule, there's some tough ones on there,

1508
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 3: but BYU sticks out big time. Why because that's going

1509
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 3: to get Bronco Endon Paul's full attention. And how much

1510
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 3: does that take away from the games that are before

1511
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 3: and after it? Because that team, you know, Bronco is

1512
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 3: going to focus so much on BYU win or lose

1513
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 3: that game, it's going to affect the games leading up

1514
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 3: to it in the games after. So you know, Virginia

1515
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 3: spent twenty season looking for answers on who would replace

1516
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 3: Bryce Perkins a quarterback last year, and Brendan Armstrong did

1517
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 3: everything he could to keep the spirit of the dual

1518
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 3: threat alive. He had four and seventy two yards on

1519
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 3: the ground from design carries. The passing game was hit

1520
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 3: or miss. He generated six interceptions in the cavaliers first

1521
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 3: three games, but then it got much better after that.

1522
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 3: The first month to play was really a learning lesson

1523
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 3: for Armstrong, generating those five turnover worthy plays in the air.

1524
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 3: He would only generate five more after that for the

1525
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,799
Speaker 3: rest of the season. So Artminstrong returns to an offense

1526
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 3: with an offensive line that ranked tenth and HAVOC allowed

1527
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 3: and fourth and saccrate. So they protected it, you know, fantastic.

1528
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the offensive line should be you know,

1529
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 3: stellar again this year. But Virginia's got to identify some

1530
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 3: explosive playmakers, you know, and all acc honorable mention. Wide

1531
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 3: receiver Billy Kimp is going to be one of the

1532
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 3: best in the conference, and the Cavaliers are going to

1533
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 3: light it up on the scoreboard. But you know, the

1534
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 3: twenty twenty defense returned half of its production in twenty nineteen,

1535
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 3: and the advanced splits just took a dive. Virginia ranked

1536
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifteenth and both defensive passing EPA and

1537
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 3: coverage while putting up a rank of eighty second coverage

1538
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 3: per PFF. The defensive rush unit was excellent, ranking in

1539
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 3: the top twenty, and there were other positives from the

1540
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 3: defense with a conference you know where they're finishing drives,

1541
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 3: ranking tenth nationally in saccrate. So I love a lot

1542
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 3: of stuff that the numbers that they have put up.

1543
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 3: But the problem is the schedule you mentioned it. William

1544
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 3: and Marry Duke serves the only two games where Virginia

1545
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 3: is absolutely going to be favored ret bielim with Illinois

1546
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 3: when they come to town to Charlottesville, they are absolutely

1547
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 3: going to force a rushing attack into the mouth of

1548
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 3: the Virginia defense, which is exactly what they want. I

1549
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 3: think they can only go over their season win total

1550
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 3: if they beat BYU and they win a couple of

1551
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 3: these coin flips, and it doesn't look I think the

1552
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 3: number is too high in the market. I think five

1553
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 3: and a half is there. It might not even be

1554
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech to say Virginia Tech might be the game

1555
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 3: to get some Bowl eligibility. To six, I think going

1556
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 3: over the win total is a little bit too much

1557
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 3: to ask, and I would take the under on six

1558
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:21,879
Speaker 3: and a half for Virginia.

1559
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't hate it. That's what one numbers would indicate

1560
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 2: as well. Let's finish off the final pass there and

1561
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 2: pit over seven minus one forty five at bet MGM. Well,

1562
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 2: in order to you know, get to wins, you can't

1563
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 2: have five losses. They've had eleven consecutive years with five

1564
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: or more losses. Pit now the schedule is now. Look,

1565
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett his back, He's going to get a look

1566
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 2: at the NFL. I'm sure. Just I think that the

1567
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 2: we talked about this a couple us. I think that

1568
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 2: the offense is still has an identity crisis with Whipple

1569
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 2: coming in and ourdoozy and they want to do different

1570
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 2: things the offensive, I mean, the rushing attack last year

1571
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 2: was AWFU one hundred and eleventh in the nation, and

1572
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: then the wide receiver drops. It was a plague that

1573
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 2: didn't help things as well. The defense really carried them.

1574
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 2: The defense was excellent, but there was a mass exodus

1575
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 2: of NFL talent. They're basically rebuilding their defense outside of

1576
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 2: the linebackers. The linebacker group is excellent this year, but

1577
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 2: they have to rebuild a defense that was number one

1578
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 2: in the nation and havoc and number one in the

1579
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: nation and tackle for loss percentage. If you look at

1580
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 2: their schedule, it's a really fascinating schedule because they have

1581
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 2: three home non conference games that are cat should be

1582
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 2: easy wins. New Hampshire UMass in Western Michigan, right, So

1583
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 2: that's three easy wins, pretty easy road schedule. Tennessee, Georgia,

1584
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 2: Tennessee VA Tech. Those two games are probably gonna decide

1585
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 2: what happens with PITT if they get to eight wins.

1586
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 2: If they win both those games at Tennessee and at

1587
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 2: VA Tech, they're probably getting to eight or nine wins,

1588
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 2: but they're probably gonna drive. Here's what PIT does. They're

1589
01:13:58,439 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 2: gonna drop a game that you don't expect them to.

1590
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 2: They go to Duke, to QS to Georgia Tech, so

1591
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 2: they're probably going to drop one of them, and I'm

1592
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 2: gonna win ATVO Tech. That's what PITT does. The most

1593
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 2: interesting part of their schedule is they played Clemson, Miami,

1594
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 2: and UNC all three but they host them all. So

1595
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: fascinating schedule. I'm at seven point one with their wind projection,

1596
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 2: so it's nothing for me with PITT. What do you

1597
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 2: got here?

1598
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 3: Well, I have seven point five, but it is over

1599
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 3: seven juice to minus one forty five, So that really

1600
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 3: kind of takes the legs out of it. And I

1601
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 3: was doing a deep dive on Pitt and really the

1602
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,560
Speaker 3: NORTHOOSI era through six years. It's like a Jekyll and

1603
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 3: Hyde kind of thing. They're the epitome of underdogs and favorites.

1604
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 3: I know, we talked about Tom Herman for so long

1605
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 3: about what he would do as an underdog and what

1606
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 3: they would do as a favorite. But once I got

1607
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 3: into this, like you know, Pitt lost to NC State

1608
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 3: is a two touchdown favorite last year, and they beat

1609
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 3: both Florida State and Virginia Tech as an underdog. It

1610
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 3: continues a long turn of unpredictability. In twenty nineteen, the

1611
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 3: Panthers beat Central Florida's double digit underdogs. They lost as

1612
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 3: a two dozes touchdown plus favorite to Boston College. The

1613
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,679
Speaker 3: biggest one of these everybody remembers is Clemson in twenty sixteen.

1614
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 3: Twenty one point underdogs won that game. So if you

1615
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 3: go and you do some research on what Nardoozy is

1616
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 3: doing there eight and fifteen and two against the spread

1617
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 3: as a home favorite, sixteen and two as a road

1618
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 3: underdog against the spread, not straight up I mean road

1619
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 3: underdog is Nardoozy territory, and then you just don't really

1620
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 3: want to play him at home when they're a favorite.

1621
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 3: Like you said, Canny Pikett his back. You know, this

1622
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 3: pit offense one hundred and eighth than Havoc allowed. If

1623
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 3: they can't protect him, or if they can't make the

1624
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 3: right decisions on offense, that's going to continue. Whipple, who

1625
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 3: famously had U Mass humming on offense. You and I

1626
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 3: used to bet on you. You remember a day when

1627
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:41,879
Speaker 3: you and I used to bet on U Mass football.

1628
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 3: That was because of Mark Whipple, and it just it

1629
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 3: hasn't happened here. I think there's some stylistic clashes, but

1630
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 3: you know, eighty eighth and success rate eightieth and finishing

1631
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 3: drives are not numbers you can depend on every week.

1632
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 3: The defense is always the focus with Nardoozi, Panthers finished

1633
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 3: tenth and defensive success rate and the top overall team

1634
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,759
Speaker 3: in Havoc. Like you said, just sixty four percent returns

1635
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 3: of the unit. But some of their biggest creators of

1636
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 3: chaos are going to be back. Servosa, Dennis led the

1637
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 3: team in tackles and tackles for loss, cam Bright and

1638
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 3: Phil Campbell will look to increase their stack total of

1639
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 3: four and a half apiece. The defense is really not

1640
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 3: the question. It's just a rank outside the top one

1641
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 3: hundred defensive passing EPA. They get in trouble in passing downs.

1642
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 3: They allow some explosive plays seventy third in tackling that's

1643
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 3: not nardoozy like. Indicates that really they could get a

1644
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 3: little bit better here. They need to be buttoned up.

1645
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 3: So a win till was you know, seven and a

1646
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 3: half is really what the market is saying. You know,

1647
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 3: the number is over seven. There's no preseason play on Pitt,

1648
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 3: but our first chance to bet on Pitt as an

1649
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,919
Speaker 3: underdog on the road may come in week two at Tennessee,

1650
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 3: and I will have my eyes open for this nardoozy

1651
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 3: trend that seems to be paying off. I'm going to

1652
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 3: fade them at home as a favorite. I'm going to

1653
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 3: play on them as an underdog on the road.

1654
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really aggressive defense on the outside, and

1655
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 2: they want to create avoc so they will give up

1656
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 2: explosive fasting plays. I'm looking forward to watching Elliott Donald,

1657
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald's son, who's going to be on the defensive line.

1658
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 4: Quick producer's note here it is Aaron Donald's nephew, not

1659
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 4: his son. Aaron's only like twelve years older.

1660
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:17,759
Speaker 2: But they bought. They lost six defensive players in the NFL,

1661
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,600
Speaker 2: so how quickly they can get new safeties? You know,

1662
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 2: they lost the Hamlin, Paris Ford, Pinnock and defensive ends

1663
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 2: those you know, Jones, Leaver and Twine and some of

1664
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 2: them opted out. But I last year, but that's a

1665
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 2: lot of talent that has left. I just think that

1666
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:36,440
Speaker 2: there's there's still and we'll see the offensive line reshuffling.

1667
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 2: That'll go a long way with where this offense goes.

1668
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 2: But I still think there's just an identity crisis with

1669
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 2: what Pitt wants to do on offense. Hopefully they can

1670
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 2: clean up the drops because that was a major issue

1671
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 2: as well. Before we get to three and out, did

1672
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 2: much let you cover Duke over four minus one oh five.

1673
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 2: I'm at three six, so I would lean under Look,

1674
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 2: they're have a new quarterback here. They were awful last year.

1675
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 2: They had thirty nine turnovers, which led FBS. There's just

1676
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 2: a lot of questions on this offense. It looks like

1677
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 2: Gunner Holmberg. They're gonna have a new quarterback was Chase

1678
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 2: Price transferred to app State. There they have young tackles,

1679
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 2: you know, one I think they're off. They're starting offensive tackles.

1680
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 2: One might be be played inside last year and another

1681
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 2: might be a converted tight end to sophomores with a

1682
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 2: new quarterback. I know they had offensive line injuries last

1683
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 2: year which didn't help, and then turnovers galore, so you

1684
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 2: would think that maybe some regression is coming in that department.

1685
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 2: Twenty five percent of their drives ended in the turnover

1686
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 2: last year. You're not going to win any football games

1687
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 2: when you're you know, Duke, the talent level of Duke.

1688
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 2: The defensive line was the strong point, but two of

1689
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 2: their primary contributors transferred and two of their others went

1690
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 2: to the NFL, so I have questions about the defense

1691
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 2: as well. The defense was horrible last year, so I'm

1692
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 2: lean under here. They do an easy early schedule that

1693
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 2: can maybe help them build some confidence, especially if they

1694
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 2: can get to win at Charlotte to start the year.

1695
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 2: But this is a no flight for me. I'd lean

1696
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 2: under if anything, and I think it's gonna be hard

1697
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:13,440
Speaker 2: for them to get the five wins.

1698
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree from a mathematical perspective at three point one,

1699
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 3: and you're returning less. You're turning forty seven percent on

1700
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 3: offense and sixty percent on defense, and these units are

1701
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 3: I mean, only Syracuse has worse splits than some of this,

1702
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 3: I mean one hundred and seventeen and have it allowed

1703
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 3: on offense one hundred and twelve and finishing drives and

1704
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 3: then defense. Really, I've only got one stat for you.

1705
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:38,480
Speaker 3: They allowed thirty eight points per game on defense. I

1706
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,679
Speaker 3: twenty five percent of your offensive drives in and turnal.

1707
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if any of this is repeatable, and

1708
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,879
Speaker 3: I'm saying that there should be regression from these numbers.

1709
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 3: How much did Duke want to take part in these games.

1710
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 3: I'm not going to sit here and question that. You know,

1711
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 3: we didn't want to be on the field and we

1712
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 3: didn't want to play. But it is really hard to

1713
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 3: achieve some of these numbers, even if you were trying

1714
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 3: to be bad. It would be hard to achieve twenty

1715
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 3: five percent of your drives being turnovers and giving up

1716
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 3: thirty eight points per game. So I definitely think we've

1717
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 3: hit a floor. There should be some bounce back. Charlotte

1718
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 3: is a great start of the season. Considering they don't

1719
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 3: have much in the trench whatsoever, so it's a good

1720
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 3: place to start against a G five team like that.

1721
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 3: There are opportunities to win on this schedule, and I'm

1722
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 3: not running out to bet the bet MGM number of

1723
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 3: under four, but you know, I think that's a number

1724
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 3: that they can get to. Looking at Duke's APR number,

1725
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 3: a fifth game could get them to a bowl if

1726
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 3: not enough teams qualify for Bulls, and that will always

1727
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 3: be a motivation if David Cutcliffe is sitting on four

1728
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 3: and he's trying to get a fifth win. So this

1729
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,600
Speaker 3: schedule mathematically doesn't say they can get to five. But

1730
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 3: I've seen David Cutcliffe do some miracles with other programs

1731
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 3: and quarterbacks before, so not counting them out, but I'm

1732
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 3: not betting the under on them.

1733
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah that's what you need. I mean, look, you expect

1734
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 2: some turnover regression, and part of that will be Gunner

1735
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 2: Holberg has to be a lot better than Jase Price,

1736
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 2: which probably won't be hard to do, right, not Look,

1737
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 2: all of its line wasn't not. They lost two centers

1738
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 2: last year, so I think on the defense, like you know,

1739
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:09,919
Speaker 2: their corners were hurt, so you know, health and turnover regression.

1740
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 2: You expect to come ken Cutcliff work is you know,

1741
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 2: he's known as a quarterback. Whisper work is magic on

1742
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,679
Speaker 2: Homberg and then you get a lot more production from

1743
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 2: that position. Turnover regression, health regression. You win a couple

1744
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 2: of close games. Sure they could go over for but

1745
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 2: it's under nothing for me. But no play there. All right, Well,

1746
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 2: good stuff there, but we're not done yet. Before we

1747
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 2: get out of here, we have to go three and out.

1748
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,440
Speaker 1: Let's make it a quick three and out.

1749
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 2: All right, So first down, we are going to talk

1750
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 2: about our favorite win totals. You know, I already threw

1751
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 2: out BC, which I was going to talk about from

1752
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 2: a number perspective. It's not like I'm at like eight,

1753
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 2: but over seven minus one thirty. You know, I've talked

1754
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 2: about enough. So my favorite win total in the ACC,

1755
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:03,719
Speaker 2: I'm going Georgia Tech under five. And we can start

1756
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 2: with the schedule. They play five teams, five teams that

1757
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 2: have realistic college football playoff aspirations. You're playing at Clemson,

1758
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 2: They're playing North Carolina in Atlanta, an at Notre Dame,

1759
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 2: playing closing out the year against Georgia at Miami I mean,

1760
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 2: this schedule is brutal. Those are five losses right off

1761
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 2: the back. Your ceiling is seven. You can go seven

1762
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 2: and five if you win the rest of the games.

1763
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 2: But I just think that there are still a lot

1764
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 2: of issues with this program. As you would expect, they

1765
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 2: were transitioning from a triple option team to a more

1766
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 2: pro style attack, you know, a more modern offensive attack,

1767
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 2: which is hard to do. When Jeff Collins got there,

1768
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 2: you know a lot of times with a coach, it's

1769
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 2: like year one in his first year was almost year

1770
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 2: zero because you have to wipe everything clean, and then

1771
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 2: all the recruits that you have were recruited to fit

1772
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 2: this system, and for example, their backup quarterback is still

1773
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 2: just a holdover from the triple option days. So year

1774
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 2: zero was basically year one, and then you know you

1775
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 2: have a COVID year in there as well. So I know,

1776
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 2: you know, Jeff Collins, hey, we're as soon as we

1777
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 2: get to year three, we're going to start to see

1778
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 2: improvement recruits. But I mean, this is almost like it's

1779
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 2: still year one, and there are other issues going on

1780
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:24,839
Speaker 2: with this team. Bottom ten and penalties last year, Sims,

1781
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 2: who's back at quarterback? I know, he was a freshman,

1782
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 2: way too many turnovers. I still have questions about him

1783
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 2: running the offense and his reads and progressions. I know

1784
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 2: that we'll get better. Who's highly recruited, originally supposed to

1785
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 2: go to Florida State, but I have questions about the

1786
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 2: quarterback position and the offense. Offensive line is still a

1787
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 2: work in progress. That defense was just really poor last year.

1788
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 2: So I have a lot of questions about this program

1789
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 2: this year. I think Collins will get it figured out,

1790
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 2: but you can't look at this team as a normal rebuild.

1791
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 2: So this is a brutal schedule. I have questions about

1792
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,640
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. I had not seen them

1793
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 2: getting to Bowl eligibility this year. I think best case

1794
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 2: they get to five wins. But I love Georgia Tech

1795
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 2: under I think it's going to be a tough year

1796
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:10,799
Speaker 2: for the Yellow Jackets.

1797
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we know that Jeff Collins is a play on

1798
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 3: coach that we love, but he is trying to establish

1799
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 3: a brand new identity. Had a COVID year involved, I

1800
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 3: mean throwing to the tight end for the first time

1801
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 3: in like fifteen years in program, you know, since they

1802
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 3: were running triple option, just not there yet. You can't

1803
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 3: finish on hundred and twenty first and have it allowed

1804
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 3: on offense and expect that to correct itself the next season.

1805
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 3: Not with the schedule, not when you have to play

1806
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 3: the number of teams that they do in the ACC

1807
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 3: that are better than them. But also you know, having

1808
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 3: Georgia on the schedule, it's just it's tough to take

1809
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 3: an over with these guys. But they'll get there. The

1810
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 3: talent will get there. I believe in Jeff Collins is

1811
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 3: a recruiter. It's just not gonna happen this year.

1812
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 2: There's also I think that Collins has has so much

1813
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 2: going on with everything that he's trying to do. And

1814
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 2: you know he's a defensive minded guy when he came

1815
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 2: from Temple. I think that'll get that side of the

1816
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 2: ball figured out. But they're the game management, the clock

1817
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 2: management Georgia Tech fans will know i'm talking about here

1818
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 2: has been poor as well. It's just they're really behind

1819
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 2: the curve and where this they want it to be.

1820
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 2: I'm confident that they'll get there if the administration gives

1821
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,679
Speaker 2: him time. But yeah, brutal schedule to get the Bowl

1822
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 2: eligibility here. I mean I would be shocked if they

1823
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 2: got to six wins, which is what would need to

1824
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 2: happen for you to lose this bet. And you know,

1825
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 2: I love BC two and they post BC and maybe

1826
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 2: that game swings me in the wrong direction for both,

1827
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 2: but I like both enough to go BC over Georgia

1828
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 2: Tech under and yeah, so that's my favorite wingeital where.

1829
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 3: You going, Yeah, I like those and I'm gonna go

1830
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 3: with NC State over six and a half. It's plus

1831
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 3: one ten to go on the over on these guys.

1832
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 3: It's a number where I mathematically put it right here,

1833
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 3: just just below six point five. But the juice is

1834
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 3: what's got me on this. But more importantly, you know

1835
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 3: Dave duran Is, he's had a brutal comeback from just

1836
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 3: a great twenty eighteen season. Eli drink Woitz was running

1837
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 3: the offense. They were one of the best in the

1838
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 3: new and then he departed to go be the app

1839
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 3: State coach, now the Missouri coach. And you know, twenty

1840
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 3: nineteen was rough and than twenty twenty with the pandemic

1841
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 3: on top of that, you thought that would be more

1842
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 3: of the same for twenty nineteen, but they turned into

1843
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 3: a Gator Bowl team with a brand new coordinator coordinators

1844
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 3: in position. And now the good news is again ninety

1845
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 3: percent of that defense back to finished top fifty and

1846
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 3: success rate and have it. The return of their top

1847
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 3: twelve tacklers is great news for defensive coordinator. Tony Gibson

1848
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 3: took over the role before the twenty twenty season, made

1849
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,839
Speaker 3: it through the pandemic, you know, Peyton Wilson, Isaiah morhterback.

1850
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 3: And another reason to be optimistic is the return of

1851
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 3: quarterback Devin Leary. The quarterback generated a three to one

1852
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:41,679
Speaker 3: ratio and big time throws versus turnover worthy plays. It's

1853
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 3: not just about fumbles and fumble luck and all that.

1854
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 3: I mean, Devin Leary like was making great decisions way

1855
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 3: more times than he was bad decisions and at a

1856
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 3: three to one ratio. That's you know, some numbers at

1857
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 3: some of the top quarterbacks and all Power five make

1858
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 3: is a three to one ratio and big time throws

1859
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 3: versus turnover worthy plays. About with COVID nineteen a broken leg,

1860
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 3: it really limited his playing time and probably his exposure.

1861
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 3: And how much is being talked about this summer because

1862
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 3: of that. There should be a continuation of an explosive

1863
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 3: passing attack in the backfield Zonovan Bam Knight. He generated

1864
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 3: forty eight missed tackles, just two fumbles, and one hundred

1865
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 3: and forty three rushing attempts just two fumbles. Extremely important.

1866
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 3: Night had an increase in yards after contact from twenty

1867
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 3: nineteen to the twenty twenty season. That means he's getting better.

1868
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 3: There should be more highlight yards. He'll take the next step.

1869
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 3: And you know, I think the problem with NC State

1870
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 3: is if you look at their offense, they just don't

1871
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 3: have any explosiveness on the offensive side of the ball.

1872
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 3: So I expect that to increase. And I love the

1873
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 3: defense here. I can't say enough about what they're you know,

1874
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 3: how much experience and playmakers they have in the secondary,

1875
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 3: They're going to be able to line up and show

1876
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 3: a few passing attacks down And you know, when you

1877
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 3: look at this, INC State is lacking a push and

1878
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 3: success rate on both sides of the ball, and they

1879
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 3: need to trim the mistakes on offense. A rink of

1880
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 3: eighty six, then havoc allow was created by a mass

1881
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,720
Speaker 3: number of fumbles sixteen coming last season after twenty one

1882
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 3: of them in twenty nineteen, So thirty seven fumbles and

1883
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 3: whether they were lost or recovered or whatever. That's a

1884
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 3: lot that need to correct themselves over the last two years,

1885
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 3: and the schedules complicated. I do like the over, and

1886
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 3: I am this is a play on team. I like

1887
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 3: the wolf Pack. I'm not gonna go out on a limit,

1888
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 3: say twenty five to one for the division with Clemson

1889
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 3: in there is the way to go. But I definitely

1890
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 3: like the over and they are a team to watch too,

1891
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 3: along with Boston College as a team on the rise.

1892
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 3: You know, they draw both Miami and North Carolina out

1893
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 3: of the Coastal Division makes the schedule tough, Mississippi State

1894
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 3: and non conference play makes a schedule tough, so the

1895
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 3: win total is exactly where it should be. But they

1896
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 3: have enough talent on here to win all the coin

1897
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:46,639
Speaker 3: flips on their games. They are a true underdog threat

1898
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 3: against the Hurricanes and the tar Heels and even Clemson.

1899
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 3: So to me, this is a Wolfpack team. Keep your

1900
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 3: eyes on. I will take the plus one ten on

1901
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 3: over six and a half.

1902
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, drawing Miami and U and C out of the

1903
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:04,720
Speaker 2: Coastal is brutal, but yeah, I do like you. If

1904
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 2: you're betting on college football teams and you don't know

1905
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,600
Speaker 2: much about schemes, and you bet on a team and

1906
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 2: then they just sit back in zones NFL two and

1907
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 2: you just get so frustrated. NC State is a team

1908
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 2: that you will enjoy betting because they're the opposite Gibson

1909
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,600
Speaker 2: brought in the three three five stack. They will on

1910
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 2: first and ten. They have three great linebackers, the strength

1911
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 2: of the one of the strengths of their team, led

1912
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 2: by Peyton Wilson. They'll they'll zero blitz and bring them

1913
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 2: all and yep, blitz everybody. And they're really aggressive. But

1914
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 2: they were I think top thirty in sacks and interceptions

1915
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 2: last year. So it's an aggressive defense that starts with

1916
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 2: the linebackers in that three three five and then everything

1917
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 2: stems from there. So I think that it's yeah, it's

1918
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:47,679
Speaker 2: a dangerous defense and a dangerous team. Schedule isn't easy,

1919
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 2: but don't hate buying the pack preseason, all right, So

1920
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 2: let's move on to second down. This is our favorite future.

1921
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 3: Here's the thing about the future.

1922
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 4: Every time you look at it, the changes because you

1923
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 4: looked at it.

1924
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 2: I personally didn't have any future. So, like, my favorite

1925
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 2: future would be Georgia to make the college bawl Clow

1926
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 2: in Georgia National title at eight to one, because I

1927
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 2: think they could be Clemson indirectly. So I haven't bet.

1928
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 2: I can't remember the last time I bet on the Heisman,

1929
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 2: but I wanted to find something if someone wanted for

1930
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 2: the ACC, so I obviously I don't give out anything.

1931
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 2: I don't bet. I threw some money on mister Bojangles himself,

1932
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 2: Sam how to win the Heisman. I found a sixteen

1933
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 2: to one.

1934
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 5: Tick boom, like a powder keg in your mouth sucking style.

1935
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 2: He should put up plenty of points. That offense should

1936
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:45,799
Speaker 2: be prolific despite all the losses at the skill position.

1937
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 2: I think the offensive line is going to take that

1938
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 2: next step forward. Should be just an electric, fast paced offense.

1939
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 2: Year three of the Longo, Year three of Sam How.

1940
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 2: I mean, sky's the limit for that offense. So yeah,

1941
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 2: I threw sixteen to one on Sam how to Win

1942
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 2: the Heisman. Nothing else from a future's perspective involve in

1943
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 2: the ACC. Maybe Clemson if they lose to Georgia. We'll

1944
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 2: have to evaluate that in the market, don't. I don't

1945
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 2: even know if it's gonna move that much. We'll see,

1946
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 2: but we'll have that discussion. On our podcast after that game.

1947
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 2: So Sam Howe to win the Heisman sixteen to one,

1948
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 2: what do you got?

1949
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:22,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a really tough conference to have futures

1950
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 3: around from a conference and division, and you know, taking

1951
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,640
Speaker 3: the Heisman route is definitely a place you should go.

1952
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 3: And if you think about the North Carolina defense seventy six,

1953
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 3: then defensive finishing drives, they're allowing a lot of people

1954
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 3: to score once they get past the forty yard line,

1955
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 3: and that means Sam Howe gets to go as fast

1956
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 3: as he wants and scores as many points as he

1957
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 3: wants in the second half, and he is a highlight

1958
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 3: reel himself in the fourth quarter. So I can't fault

1959
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:47,879
Speaker 3: that bet whatsoever for me. I'm gonna stick with Miami

1960
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 3: plus one thirty to win the Coastal Division. But this

1961
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:53,200
Speaker 3: is the bottom number that I would take at bet

1962
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:56,600
Speaker 3: MGM currently offering that number. This number originally opened up

1963
01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 3: at plus one seventy, the true number on this It's

1964
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,719
Speaker 3: a pick game and the only difference between North Carolina

1965
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 3: and Miami is the home field advantage itself. How much

1966
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 3: of a home field advantage is it when North Carolina

1967
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 3: has to play forward to state the week before, Miami

1968
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:12,680
Speaker 3: gets a bye week to prepare, and if you do

1969
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 3: a little bit of digging on Many Diaz last year

1970
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 3: he started putting an emphasis on, oh, my team is

1971
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 3: on a break, I should probably coach them up while

1972
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 3: we're on a break. They were horrendous under many Diaz

1973
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 3: going into bowls and going into buys. Last year, they

1974
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 3: finally started covering spreads after bye weeks or after I

1975
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 3: would say, like two weeks going into a bowl. Whatever

1976
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 3: there was, you know, heading into the first week season,

1977
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 3: whatever it was, additional time off. Many Diaz has finally

1978
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 3: got some architecture to game plan the schedule. So I

1979
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 3: do like Miami coming off of a bye Because of

1980
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 3: Many Diaz has focused an increase on it. That means

1981
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 3: I like Miami to win the division. So I will

1982
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 3: take them at plus one thirty, a number that should

1983
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 3: easily be there whenever they face each other heads up.

1984
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:55,759
Speaker 3: So Clemson's overpriced. Can't just find anybody else in the Atlantic.

1985
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 3: You know, Coastal is a crapshoot, but there are two

1986
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 3: teams that lead it, and I'll take the one that

1987
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 3: has the odds that dictate it has value on the

1988
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 3: number and.

1989
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 2: Finally, before we get out of here, third down ACC

1990
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 2: Championship Game prediction. I'm gonna go out on an enormous limb. Hear,

1991
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 2: and I don't think that we I mean we haven't.

1992
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 2: I haven't even put this in our notes. We haven't

1993
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 2: discussed this. But you know, I'm gonna say for a

1994
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 2: seventh straight year, Clemson wins the ACC. Ah, so not

1995
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 2: much more to talk about. And then I'll say it's

1996
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 2: probably a coin flip, but I'll say since I went

1997
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 2: with Sam Howin and ies, but I'll say over UNC,

1998
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 2: it's the ACC, the coastal you can and we've had

1999
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 2: some surprises, but this isn't a conference where I'm going

2000
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 2: out on any kind of limbear. Clemson wins again and Clemson, uh.

2001
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:45,760
Speaker 2: Maybe the only interesting thing I want to see is

2002
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 2: if Clemson wins the ACC but loses to Georgia, and

2003
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 2: then DAMA wins the SCC and beats Georgia, Ohio State

2004
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 2: wins the Big Ten and is in. You know, I

2005
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 2: want to see, you know, then you have I with

2006
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 2: State of Oklahoma. I want to see what would happen?

2007
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 2: Do you take Clemson the ACC champ over Georgia, who

2008
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 2: has one loss in the SEC Championship, but beat Clemson.

2009
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 2: That's what I'm for as far as chaos is concerned.

2010
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 2: That's peak chaos for the top teams. But no surprises here. View.

2011
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to be too much

2012
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 3: different than you. I'm going to say the point the

2013
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 3: projected point spread's going to be about fourteen and a

2014
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 3: half to sixteen and a half. It's going to be

2015
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 3: against Clinton's going to be going against Miami or North Carolina.

2016
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 3: But I think it's a different handicap. I say Miami

2017
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 3: plus one thirty for the division in the Coastal, but

2018
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 3: Clemson's going to cover that number against Miami. Why because

2019
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:36,640
Speaker 3: they have the best front seven in the nation and

2020
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 3: they will have no problem tackling deerra king in space,

2021
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 3: disrupting RPOs, disrupting explosive plays. That's what Clemson can do upfront,

2022
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 3: probably the best of the nation in the front seven.

2023
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 3: Where can they be attacked on defense in the secondary,

2024
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 3: and that is exactly where North Carolina could attack, and

2025
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 3: that is exactly where Sam how could attack. So if

2026
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 3: North Carolina is the one that wins in Chapel Hill

2027
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 3: against the Hurricanes, I think they covered the projected line

2028
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 3: of two touch downs against Clemson and possibly could do

2029
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 3: some damage because the secondary is where you want to

2030
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 3: attack them. But that front seven of Clemson is so nasty.

2031
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 3: You know, the North Carolina offensive line is going to

2032
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 3: have to have their act together and beyond have their

2033
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 3: best nine of the season against Clemson. But yeah, Clemson

2034
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 3: to cover against Miami if for some reason North Carolina

2035
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 3: is there. I take North Carolina to cover against Clemson.

2036
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 3: But Clemson all the way, I do think they lose Georgia.

2037
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,839
Speaker 3: Like you said, one lost team, Clemson probably went out

2038
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 3: and then you know, I think the other big prediction

2039
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:30,600
Speaker 3: that we can get not an ACC title prediction, but

2040
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 3: Pitt's gonna upset somebody. They should on the road, especially

2041
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:36,679
Speaker 3: when we count them out, so be looking for that too.

2042
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, or at home when they played Clemson, UNC and Miami.

2043
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 2: Before we get out of here, I do have to

2044
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 2: mention Syracuse Wake Forest have good kickers, hit loss, go kicker.

2045
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 2: I needed to get some special teams because I don't

2046
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 2: think I mentioned special teams, and I have to go

2047
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 2: every episode with at least on special teams.

2048
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 4: Men.

2049
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 3: I got Virginia Tech in where were you with the

2050
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,600
Speaker 3: special teams on the hand, for the Virginia Tech I

2051
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 3: cannot believe is I think what I mean? If you

2052
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 3: go and read some of your preseason magazines, they're like

2053
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 3: close to dead last and special teams. What has happened

2054
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 3: to this group? It's just it's one of the small

2055
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 3: things that tells me all I need to know about

2056
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech.

2057
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff Colin, as always, remember and thanks

2058
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 2: to Bud Elliott for joining us. Remember please right now,

2059
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2060
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2064
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2065
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2067
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2068
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2069
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Speaker 3: Peace out, m h

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Speaker 2: M hm