1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back everybody our three of The 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Please do subscribe to 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Podcast because we have beaten, 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: as of today, the Today Show, and Clay is very 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: excited about that as m. I isn't that amazing? I 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: just want us to one day, and I don't know 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: when it's going to happen. I appreciate the loyalty the 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: audience is already showing. 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That's huge, and that that is 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: a news bombshell, given that Cosby was perhaps the either 26 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: the first or the second, right I think, first or 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: second most visible target of the me too era as 28 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: a predator. I mean he was targeted as a predator 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: during that period of time. It was really Cosby and 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: Weinstein were at the top of the list. I think 31 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: you're undred percent right about that. And again, there is 32 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: going to be an argument that Bill Cosby was wrongfully convicted. 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: The data does not reflect that he didn't necessarily great 34 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: not innocent, but wrongfully can wrongfully convicted. And I think 35 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,919 Speaker 1: tomorrow we probably can discuss this in even more detail. 36 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: We had a lot of callers who won a weigh in. 37 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: They still do. But I'm actually curious Buck to see 38 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: how this story played in the media, because we talked 39 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: a little bit and when we're going to talk a 40 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: lot about this. To me, the great evil of the 41 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: Democratic Party is identity politics, and for this purposes, you 42 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: have a white woman who alleged that she was raped 43 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: got a conviction, and now a black man is able 44 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: to use the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, thanks to his superior resources, 45 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: to argue that the conviction should have never happened. Because, 46 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: and this is an interesting political angle, the DA in 47 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and five, who would later be in the 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: second Donald Trump impeachment trial, the primary defender of Donald Trump. 49 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 1: That DA back in two thousand and five, he made 50 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: the decision that there was not enough evidence to prosecute 51 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: Bill Cosby, and then that led to the further incrimination 52 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: of himself by Bill Cosby responding to questions in a 53 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: civil loss suit. By the way, the DA at the 54 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: time and Bill Cosby and the one who defended Trump 55 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 1: at the second impeachment trial, Bruce cast So the fact 56 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: that that would overlap and he would end up now 57 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: with a guy in a significant role in the Bill 58 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: Cosby case as well as a former defender of forty 59 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: five is pretty wild. And I'm curious to see how 60 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: exactly this plays out, because i think it's fair to 61 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: say sometimes the phrase bombshell is overused. Buck, but Bill 62 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: Cosby out of nowhere suddenly having his conviction vacated, the 63 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: charges can never be brought again, and he's gonna walk 64 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: out of jail within the next maybe before this show ends. Today. 65 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: We'll see whether Cosby speaks to the media, whether he 66 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: claims vindication, and how again it's going to be covered. 67 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: That is legitimately a bombshell. We have been lectured a 68 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: lot in recent years, particularly under the Trump administration, by 69 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: the media, but but even still now about the need 70 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: for our sacred institutions to be held and protected, and 71 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: the justice system has to be very near the top 72 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: of that. You know, you've got the Constitution, you've got 73 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: our checks and balances, our system of government that is 74 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: envisioned by the founders, but our justice system is absolutely critical, 75 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: and it's critical that people believe that it's operating as 76 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: it should and that people's rights are respected, and that 77 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: it is not a partisan instrument, that it is not 78 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: a system of political domination that is often using. I 79 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: just bring this up because on the one end, you've 80 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: got this Cosby trial, which is there's a different kind 81 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: of politics involved there, which was in the moment. If 82 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: you are a prosecutor in the Meet era, getting Bill 83 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: Cosby was something that there was a lot of pressure 84 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: to do because of perception publicly. But there's also the 85 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: Trump Organization, which is still getting investigated. Here, we spoke 86 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: to the president for an hour yesterday. That was I mean, 87 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: let's just as an aside here, that's pretty you missed it. 88 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: It's pretty in the podcast. What really were also lots 89 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: of news stories about everywhere. Really, I'm actually ironically reading 90 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 1: right now, basically every media outlet in the country covered 91 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: that interview. And the Trump Organization and CFO Alan Weisselberg 92 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: are expected, according to the Wall Street Journal here just 93 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: in the last hour, to be to be facing charges tomorrow. 94 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: Now I understand they'll probably have some way of making 95 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: it seem like that's not a partisan decision, but we 96 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: all know it is, right. We all know that that 97 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: sy Vance, who's the district attorney in New York, that 98 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: the people involved here, these are Democrats who are looking 99 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: to make a statement to go after Republicans in this case. 100 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: And I understand these are very different kinds of cases 101 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: and involving you know, one is you know, horrendous criminal conduct. 102 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: The other one has to do with basically, you know, 103 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: bookkeeping in the case of the Trump organization. But it 104 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: all goes down to we have to believe. There has 105 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: to be a belief that the justice system is fundamentally 106 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: trying to be fair and that it is adhering to 107 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: the rules and the principles that are set out in 108 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: the justice system. And you know, I think one of 109 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: the problems you see continuously of the progressive authoritarian left 110 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: is that they, because power is the one absolutely critical 111 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: thing that they pursue above everything else, they view the 112 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: Justice Department and the system of justice we have, and 113 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: particularly prosecutors offices, as instruments of partisan warfare to be 114 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: deployed whenever they see fit. And I think that pulls 115 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 1: us apart in ways that are really damaging as a country. 116 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: And I think this case is emblematic of that in 117 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: many ways, but in particular the rise of Me Too. 118 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: Buck you mentioned, I think it's fair to say Harvey 119 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: Weinstein and Bill Cosby are probably the twin pillars to 120 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: the extent that you had to point to two powerful 121 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: people who have been torn down by the Me Too. 122 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: Both of those guys convicted. Jeffrey Epstein would be another 123 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: one that I think a lot of people think of 124 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: when that story emerges. To me, this represents how justice 125 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: is influenced by external factors that have nothing to do 126 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: with justice, And let me unpack that and explain it 127 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 1: a bit. In two thousand and five, me, two hasn't happened. 128 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: So the DA looks at the evidence says this is 129 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: going to be a really difficult conviction to get, which, 130 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: by the way, he was correct about because the first 131 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: trials and mistrial later they get a conviction, not only 132 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: the prosecutors. Though. One of the reasons why justice is blind, Buck, 133 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: is because we shouldn't be allowing external factors to influence 134 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,119 Speaker 1: guilt or innocence. Right. If you see the scales of justice, lady, 135 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: justice is blind. Our juries are influenced too. Me too. 136 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: The reason why I found it to be so heinous 137 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: on so many levels was because as a lawyer, I 138 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: am taught that all that matters are the facts, the facts, 139 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: the facts. And when you're telling me that Brett Kavanaugh 140 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: can't be on the Supreme Court because I have to 141 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: hashtag believe all women, that is the exact opposite of 142 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: what the judicial system should represent. You should never believe 143 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: someone or significantly disbelieve someone because of their race, their gender, 144 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: their ethnicity, their religion, their sexuality, whatever it might be. 145 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: Justice needs to be blind and this is not of 146 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: both sides issue in terms of the politics and partisan 147 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: And now I'm moving more toward the Trump organization prosecution, 148 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: which is also a story in the last hour that 149 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: is being updated here. The Trump organization expected to be 150 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: charged tomorrow really for what? Oh, with some taxmouthfeasance. Yeah, 151 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: trust me, all of a sudden, Trump has never been 152 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: charged before with this tax mouthfeasance or his organization, but 153 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: just after he leaves office as president, and the Libs 154 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: have been screaming about how you know he's he's worse 155 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: than Hitler for four years. Now he's being charged. I 156 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: would just note that when there's a very important exercise 157 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: that ask all of you to do, and it's think about, 158 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: in just recent memory, the high level criminal investigations and 159 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: prosecutions of political figures that have occurred in this country, 160 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: and how many of them just happened to be Republicans 161 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: versus how many of them were actually Democrats, the biggest one, 162 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: of course, being the Russia collusion mess that was effectively 163 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: a criminal investigation of a sitting president based on a lie. 164 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: So that's the weaponization of the Justice Department against a 165 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: sitting president, which Donald Trump had to sit through, and 166 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: that did hurt his administration just because the process was 167 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: the punishment. But then even beyond that, I mean Clay 168 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: Chris Christie Bridgegate and he charges against him, No, but 169 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: they ran with that for a long time. Rick Perry 170 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: when he was governor of Texas and he charged against him. No, 171 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: but they said that he couldn't threaten to veto something 172 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: that was criminal abuse of power. Scott Walker and Wisconsin, 173 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: the John Doe investigations trying to see if there was 174 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: criminal collusion between a pack and Walker's gubernatorial campaign. Did 175 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: they actually do anything wrong? No, but they made people 176 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: under the John Doe laws incapable even talking about the 177 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: dawn raids on their homes. About that, you get on 178 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: the list. Even the former governor of Virginia, Bob McDonald, 179 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: they were trying to send his wife to prison for 180 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: years federal prison because he was hanging out with a 181 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: rich businessman. Didn't take any official activist we have. You 182 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: look at the list, I mean, Clay, is there a 183 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: list of Democrats that have been treated to the Ted 184 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: Stevens people are gonna yell at me prosecutorial misconduct against 185 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: Senator Ted Stevens to make him lose his reelection effort 186 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: in Alaska. If that doesn't happen, by the way, if 187 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: they don't bring that prosecution where they hate exculpatory evidence 188 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: as all came out. Do you have Obamacare fully the 189 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: way you do now changes a lot, doesn't it? It 190 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: changes a ton? And I think what you're talking about, 191 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: in particular with this Trump investigation, for anybody who has 192 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: spent any sufficient time looking at the tax code, people 193 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: think of the tax code as being sort of a 194 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: scientific manner. You owe X number of dollars you plug 195 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: in your tax returns when you're doing big corporate tax returns. 196 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: The tax code is an art by which I mean 197 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: there are arguments you can make against for the way 198 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: that you allocate dollars, the way that you move money around. 199 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: I really genuinely believe this. If you are paying tax 200 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: on millions of dollars a year, which a tiny fraction 201 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: of people are, if you spent three years going over 202 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: any organization's tax returns, you would be able to find 203 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: something that you think is an inappropriate act that could 204 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: be potentially criminal. And this is what they've said all 205 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: the time. By the way, the nc DOABLEA basically is 206 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: getting blown up tomorrow with athletes being able to get paid. 207 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: But this is what they always said about the NCABLEA 208 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: investigating your program in the world at college. Lets as 209 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: soon as they show up on campus, they can find 210 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: you breaking a rule. The irs and the tax code 211 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: in general is fundamentally broken. You give a prosecutor who 212 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: wants to find a reason to charge somebody with a 213 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: crime years to investigate, they're gonna find buck a crime 214 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: to charge. This is like the Soviet secret police director 215 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: Lavrenti Barrier saying, you show me the man, I'll show 216 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: you the crime. Anybody who understands the system or that 217 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: old you know, you can get a grand jury to 218 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: indict a ham sandwich, so to speak. There's a lot 219 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: of ways to look at this, you know. We've got 220 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: a couple of stories also to update you on. Like 221 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: Trump right now is at the border. We'll have some 222 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: of his words from the border today he's down there. 223 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: Will come back to that. Plus a story where you've 224 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: got Congress trying to move some statues. Clay is fired 225 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: up about this one, so am I. So we have 226 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: a packed third hour for you here, and we'll get 227 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: to all of it in just a moment. The family 228 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: dog we have is Tulula. She's a French bulldog. 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Still making the complex understandable, Clay 253 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: Travison buck Sexton break it down on the IVY. Welcome 254 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: back in appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 255 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: Final hour Wednesday edition, Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, reacting 256 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: to live news that broke in the second hour of 257 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: the program, Bill Cosby officially on his way out of prison. Simultaneously, 258 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: buck Sexton, we have got the President of the United 259 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: States formerly forty five himself, who was on the show 260 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: with us, if you haven't to miss it yesterday, spent 261 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: an entire hour with us the second hour of the program. 262 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: Encourage all of you to go download the podcast and 263 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: listen to that. He was fantastic. If you haven't already 264 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: in search out Clay Travis buck Sex and he is 265 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: down at the border today, and I believe we have 266 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: a cut of Donald Trump at the boar. I want 267 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: to just thank the people of Texas because we won 268 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: in a landslide. It wasn't even close. You know. They 269 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: were saying, well, Texas is going to be close. They said, well, 270 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm in favor of oil, I'm in favor of God, 271 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: and I'm in favor of guns, and they're not. And 272 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: if you're in Texas and you don't like guns, God 273 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: in oil, I don't think you're gonna do too well. 274 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: And they didn't do too well. They didn't do well 275 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: at all. They did poorly. But we did well, and 276 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: we did well in other states too. We did well 277 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: in states that we lost. We did really well, much 278 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: better than we did. We got twelve million more votes 279 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: that we got the first time. One of the media 280 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: called up and they said, could I ask you what 281 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: was the difference between sixteen and twenty. They said, well, 282 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: the big differences. We did much better in twenty. And 283 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: they thought about they said, you know, you're right, but 284 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: the vote counting was probably a little bit better for 285 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: them in twenty because what we've done was appreciated by 286 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: the people, and we better get our elections straightened out, 287 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: because you're going to have a runaway country. You're gonna 288 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: have a banana Republic, you have a third world country 289 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: here pretty soon, because our elections are a mess. Certainly 290 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: the election of New York City's a mess, which everyone's 291 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: admitting right now. And the president there at the border, 292 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: I think raising attention about something that Republicans should be 293 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: much more on than they are, which is what a 294 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: mess the border is. And anyone who understands what's happening 295 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: there will tell you that it is. And I believe 296 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: the former president put out a statement, a written statement 297 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: as well today that it's the worst it's ever been. 298 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: He told us that yesterday play on the show, and 299 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: this isn't really in the realm of judgment call anymore. 300 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: There's data, there are numbers you can point to to 301 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: suggest that the border is de facto open or the 302 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: most open it's ever been, as long as somebody understands, 303 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: as long as they essentially go through the cartel smuggling 304 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: system and play this system once they get over onto 305 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: our side of the border. And I think Republicans have 306 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: to make a lot of and they have to make 307 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: a big effort here to raise this to the level 308 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: of national attention that it deserves. It's a huge problem 309 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: and the and this is directly caused, like so many 310 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: other things, by the Biden administration and its policies. Yeah, 311 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any in any doubt about that. 312 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: And I'm curious to see several different things by the 313 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: time we come back on the show tomorrow. How will 314 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: Trump's trip to the border be covered, if at all 315 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: would be covered aggressively, How will it be compared to 316 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris's visit to the border. And this Bill Cosby story. 317 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: Will Cosby speak to the media as he leaves prison 318 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: after a couple of years? Will he threatened to soothe 319 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: what state of Pennsylvania? What's the number one story? Clicks 320 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: You pointed this out to me New York Times right now, 321 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: number one story still is the insurrection the Insurer. I 322 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: went because I was curious how the New York Times 323 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: was going to cover Bill Cosby, because you've got these 324 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: conflicting identities. Is Bill Cosby a wrongfully convicted black man 325 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: or is he a rapist using his power to have 326 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: await having to serve his crime. How will that be 327 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: played in the mainstream media. I want to know when 328 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about it tomorrow. In the meantime, 329 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: Tunnel That Hours Foundation helps us keep our commitment to 330 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: never forget. 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Welcome back to the Clay 348 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I'm Buck, he is Clay. 349 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: We are ripping through the biggest stories of the day, 350 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: and one of them we mentioned earlier in the show 351 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: had to do with defund the police, which Democrats are 352 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: now trying to convince us they didn't say, or they 353 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: didn't want and maybe even Republicans wanted it, which is 354 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: of course completely absurd. We have memories. We know that 355 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: that's a lie. But sometimes the most effective lies, as 356 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: far as the left is concerned, to the ones that 357 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: are the most obvious kind of unbalances you. It makes 358 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: you think that maybe maybe you're missing something, but there's 359 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: something else, and that is you're not supposed to talk 360 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: about crime in some of these cities. They'd much rather discuss, 361 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: because they're Democrat controlled cities, the social justice concerns. They'd 362 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: much rather talk about what statues are where and things 363 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: like that. And here's Rush talking about how when Trump 364 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: was in office, discussing Chicago, Oh, that was a no 365 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: no when it comes to the gun violence or the 366 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: violence in that city. What are you not supposed to mention. 367 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to go to Chicago, and you're not 368 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: supposed to talk about all the murders, five hundred thirty 369 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: murders last year. You're not supposed to do it. You're 370 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: not supposed to mention it. You're not supposed to talk 371 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: about the unepe Chicago Police Department. You're not supposed to 372 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: talk about Chicago as a sanctuary city where they treat 373 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: criminals in Chicago better than they treat law abiding citizens. 374 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: Trump just called them out on it, and he's getting 375 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: practically standing ovations for it. In Chicago. He's standing up 376 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: for the cops. He's standing up for the beat cops, 377 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: the patrol cops, the detective, he's standing up for everybody 378 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: on the street doing their jobs who are handcuffed by 379 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: bureaucrats who, of course are obsessed by political correctness. You're 380 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: not supposed to go to a Democrat stronghold like Chicago, 381 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: and you're not supposed to call him out for their incompetence, 382 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: and you're not supposed to call him out for their ineptitude. 383 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: And you sure as heck are not supposed to talk 384 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: about all the murders, and you're not supposed to say 385 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: that Chicago has some of the most strange and gun 386 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: control laws in the country which are not working. You're 387 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: not supposed to do that. Why you're not supposed to 388 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: talk about the murders in Chicago. Why you're not supposed 389 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: to talk about the neighborhoods those murders. That why you're 390 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: not supposed to mention this because you're not supposed to 391 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: call out the left. You're not supposed to call out liberals. 392 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: He is jamming political correctness down their throats. This has 393 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: been fabulous, and it's true. You're not supposed to say 394 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: these things. As Rush pointed out Clay, that the narrative 395 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: will focus on whatever is best for the left, for 396 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party. And so that's how even today that 397 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: big above the full story on the insurrection instead of 398 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: what's actually happening in major cities across the country. You 399 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: know AOC who often gets away with I mean, you 400 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: could even say that her brand is essentially saying incredibly 401 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: stupid things and getting away with it over and over again, 402 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: in fact, having many leftists cheer for her. She with 403 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: the its hysteria to talk about crime in these cities 404 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: that didn't go over well, the Democrats are realizing this 405 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: is a liability for their political aspirations of continued control 406 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: of Congress and their continued control of the narrative. Overall, 407 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: there's no doubt. And we talked, by the way, about 408 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: a couple of different subjects that we didn't end up 409 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: getting into as much today, and I want to go 410 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: ahead and let you know we are going to get 411 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: into them tomorrow. In particular, the Democrats are trying to 412 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: take out statues that they are not happy about involving 413 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: American history and a Civil War in particular, and people 414 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: out there may not know this. I'm a bit of 415 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: a Civil War history nerd Buck. I actually went to 416 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 1: Civil War history sleepaway camp, which my wife never fails 417 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: to ridicule me for seriously. At Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, they have 418 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: a yearly like Civil War Institute where they have every 419 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: year a different aspect of the Civil War that they 420 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 1: focus on. And as a seventeen year old, I went 421 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: to Gettysburg College, great college like right basically on the battlefield, 422 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: and I spent a week up there at this conference. 423 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: And my wife is still, I think, shocked that she 424 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: ever married me after finding out that I was that 425 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: much of a Civil War NERD. So I'm coming to 426 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: this with bona fides in space. I am actually your stun. 427 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: You didn't know Civil War sleepaway camp even existed. What 428 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: would your expectation to have been of someone in high 429 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: school who was at a Civil War sleep boy camp. 430 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm still processing right now, to be honest with you. 431 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: That's a pretty rad did you guys do? Did you 432 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: do their you know Red I've never done the reenactment. 433 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: That's a very popular thing that people will see. I've 434 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: never done. Yeah, And I think that's interesting and cool 435 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I'm not a camper. I don't 436 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: enjoy being outside other than being outside to go back inside, 437 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: Like I'm fine, give me a good hike, give me 438 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: a good lake to swim in, or whatever else. But 439 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: the reason that I believe humanity has evolved is to 440 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: have roofs over our head, like I don't know. This 441 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: is like people ask me all the time. They're like, oh, 442 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: well you used to you know, you went all these 443 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: crazy places in the CIA, and so you must be 444 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, where are you going on vacation. They're expecting 445 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: me to say, you know, I don't know. I'm gonna 446 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: you know, Popua, New Guinea. Yeah, I'm gonna go somewhere, 447 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: somewhere really exotic and cool and interesting. And I'm usually like, 448 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: I think there's a nice four seasons in Hawaii, you know, 449 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: Like I have put aside the era. If I have 450 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: to go to a place now where I have to 451 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: take malaria pills or I can't drink the water out 452 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: of the tap, I'm unhappy. Yeah, I did that. I'm 453 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: done with that. That that life. That's the old buck, 454 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: adventurous buck. I will, potentially, if my kids make a 455 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: demand sleep outside because they want to do it. If 456 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: I were making choices in my life, I would, by choice, 457 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: I would never sleep outside for the rest of my life. 458 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: But no, I've not done the reenactment, but we did 459 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: do the Civil War sleepaway camp. So I am fascinated 460 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: by Can I tell you the nerdiest since for Shars trust? Try? 461 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: This is the trust of you, me and a million 462 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: or some of her closest friends. Something like that. Um. 463 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: I went to Bronx Zoo camp when I was a kid. 464 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: Do you sleep at the camp? No, you don't stay there, 465 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: so it's a day camp. Yeah, And I was maybe 466 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: eight or nine years actually doesn't stun me. I mean, 467 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: I've always I've always loved animals. I've always thought. I 468 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: remember when I was a kid, I couldn't spell animal 469 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: conservationist in the first grade, but I knew that's what 470 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: I thought I wanted to be until I found out 471 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: that's like very tough way to make a living biologist. 472 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: You know, it's nerdy, but I'll tell you it was 473 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: actually cool because they would bring you would actually get 474 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: to spend time with none of the you know, I 475 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: showed up and I was like, where's the wolverine. They like, no, no, no, 476 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: you don't get to pet like wolverine. Yes, but they 477 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: would bring out I think I'm actually now it's like 478 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to time warp in my mind. I think 479 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: they might have introduced us to a pegulin at one point, 480 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: which was you had no idea, no idea that was 481 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: but they yeah, they we would spend time with the animals, 482 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: learning about the animals. It was kind of like when 483 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: they do with the Johnny Carson thing and they bring 484 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: on like I think that's cool. Yeah, I mean slots 485 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: are amazing, by the way, so yeah, I think that 486 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me at all. I think a lot of 487 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: kids would be interested in Zoo Camp if they had 488 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: the opportunity to get No. Civil War Camp is a 489 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: next level. Yeah, that's a whole other. But you know, hey, 490 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: you love your history. I got a scholarship to that 491 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: Civil War camp. Not to brag or draw attention to myself. Okay, 492 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: we do. We want to go to calls before because 493 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna get it. We're gonna start. Really, I'll reinforce 494 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: the Civil War History camp as the bona fide tomorrow 495 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: when I explain why I am so personally upset by 496 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: this consistent obsession with tearing down statues and removing statues 497 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: and trying to what I would call whitewash American history 498 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: based on entirely the standards of twenty twenty twenty twenty 499 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: one America as opposed to what's been the case for 500 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: most of our One thing that I'm quite sure of 501 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: is that none of the founders were woke enough when 502 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: it comes to the transagenda. I mean, you go through 503 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: the whole list. You don't think George Washington was a 504 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: big big trans giants acting. I don't. I don't think. 505 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: I don't think that he would have supported the powerlifter 506 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: who is now competing against females. I'm just gonna go out, 507 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: so maybe George needs to be canceled on that on 508 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: that basis alone. But we'll come and take some of 509 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: your calls here in a minute. I know we've been 510 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: saying we will. And please remember to go to clainbuck 511 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: dot com. Stories from this show posted there. 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I 551 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: want all of our listeners out there, even though they 552 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: just found out that I went to Civil War sleepaway camp, 553 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: to still like me and still like us and to 554 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: help us beat the New York Times and NPR and 555 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: go subscribe to the podcast. Maybe we could do segments 556 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: on funky, sweetish jazz play just like the NPR folks, 557 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: and that will really get everybody downloading the podcast. I'm 558 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: actually curious to see how NPR and The New York 559 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: Times both play this Bill Cosby story. For those of 560 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: you out there, we're finishing off the show. The story 561 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: broke during the radio program Bill Cosby being released from prison. 562 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: The new the Pennsylvania Supreme Court comes out with a 563 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: decision saying that he should not have ever been prosecuted. 564 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about that. We still have a 565 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: ton of people who want to react. We will be 566 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: following up on that story and more tomorrow. This guy's 567 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: been waiting, Jeff and Knoxville. Yes, the patience of a 568 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: saint for sure. For sure, Jeff, thank you so much 569 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: for us staying with us. What's on your mind? Well, actually, 570 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: well I've been waiting. Several things have come up. I 571 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: went to the Gettysburg Battlefield as well, and I've had 572 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: some comments about the NC double A because I'm a 573 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: professional Santa Claus and I went in to see pat 574 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: summit and ut, oh, that's awesome. I can give you 575 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: some other information. You had a Cosby, you had a 576 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: Cosby thing. You wanted to get to us, So tell 577 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: us exactly. That was the first thing. In the late 578 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: seventies early eighties, I used to go to Las Vegas 579 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: on a regular basis and stayed out at the hotel 580 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: closest to County Airport, which is the same hotel where 581 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: Bill Cosby stayed, and I had breakfast with him on 582 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: several occasions, actually lunch on two occasions. And the felling 583 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: that I was working with play Tennants with Bill Cosby, 584 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: and so I got to see Bill on a regular basis, 585 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: and he he always had a cab waiting for him 586 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: out front. Was he a nice guy. I mean, Jeff, 587 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: we got to know that what's the what's the so 588 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: what of your relationship with Bill Cosby? Fantastic? By no 589 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination, was our personal friend of his. 590 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: But I want to say that in essence, I got 591 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: a chance to sing him in all sorts of different 592 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: hum situations and I had. I went to the it 593 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: went to the showroom, a circus circus and UM, okay, Jeff, Jeff, 594 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: we appreciate it, Jeff, we got it because we got 595 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: every we got every line. Let me thank you for 596 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: waiting me, thank you for calling in. We're gonna take 597 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: um Dan and upstate New York if we can. Dan, 598 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. Hey guys, 599 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: great show. Thanks for having me on. Thank you so. 600 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: But my thought about the Supreme Court ruling today this 601 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: the Pennsylvania State, is that for the last year and 602 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: a half, AOC, the mod the Squad, Schumer, Pelosi, they've 603 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: been trying to do one thing, sending the message to 604 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: this country there is no rule, the critical race theory 605 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: says throughout the Constitution. Because they're a bunch of privileged 606 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: white guys and today's ruling was really undermined their entire 607 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: position and said, we are a country of rules, and 608 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: we have technicalities and you got to follow them and 609 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: if you don't forget it, you're finished. And I think 610 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: it's such a great statement. And don't misunderstand me. If 611 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: he's guilty, he's gonna get his dude, just like Oji 612 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: got his due a rush set it on the day 613 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: he was found innocent. Don't worry, OJ, I'll get it. 614 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: What do you guys think? Look, I think that this 615 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: is going to be fascinating to see how this plays 616 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: out going forward. But ultimately, as a lawyer, we are 617 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: a country of laws, and Buck, you said it well, 618 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: I think you have to be able to rely when 619 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,719 Speaker 1: a district attorney tells you that they are not going 620 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: to prosecute you, and you rely on that statement based 621 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: on your future actions. I think Bill Cosby, based on 622 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: the evidence, probably is guilty of rape. That doesn't mean 623 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: that he's guilty under the existing framework of law. We 624 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: believe as a country that a thousand innocent that guilty 625 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: men should go free, then one innocent person go to jail. 626 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: That's the way that our country is set. And I 627 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: would I would add to that when you think about 628 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: something even like the statute of limitations, which is depending 629 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: on the some have a federal statute of limitations can 630 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: be five years, can be ten years, or there can 631 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 1: be no statute for things like murder. But the reason 632 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: we have a statute of limitations is that we understand 633 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: that there will be times when a crime comes up 634 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: and people may think someone may have committed it. But 635 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: with so much passage of time, it effectively becomes for 636 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: certain crimes, very difficult to actually have a real defense, 637 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: to be able to mount a defense against the state. 638 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: So that's why there are sometimes when when they will 639 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: say you're past the statute, even when the statute limitations, 640 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: even when people may in fact be believed to be 641 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 1: likely guilty of something. That's a tradeoff. That's a system 642 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: tradeoff that we make, and that can have huge consequences. 643 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: It has had huge consequences in our legal system for 644 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: a very long time. But Dad, thank you for calling 645 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 1: from upstate New York. Lori in South Carolina, I think 646 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: this could be a good call to finish out the 647 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: show today. Lorie, I don't know exactly the subject, but 648 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: it looks like a good one to me. It's my 649 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: son was also a Civil War geek. That is fantastic. 650 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: And he met a woman who was from Virginia and 651 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: when they were dating and he was driving her back 652 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: home to visit her parents and stuff, he would sit 653 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: there and tell her whatever historical marker said all the 654 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: way through Virginia. She was just amazed and that impressed 655 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: and led to do you have any grandchildren? Now? Two? Two? 656 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: There you go? No, the Civil War, whether they wanted 657 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: to or not. You know my last thank you so much. 658 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: Like book and my dad and I exchange books a lot. 659 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: This is we trade books back and forth, and we 660 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: talked about them. I just gave him the three series 661 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: or the three volume Shelby Civil Civil War and Narrative 662 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: is one of the greatest trilogies ever written in the 663 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: history of nonfick. He is ripping through. He's had it 664 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: for like a couple of months. He's already threw book two. 665 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: I think he's onto three now, loving it so well. 666 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: It is. I'm glad you mentioned that. He got me 667 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: all fired up. That is one of the best trilogies 668 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: that has ever been written period. Shelby Foote The Civil 669 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: War and Narrative He's a masterful writer. You know this, Buck. 670 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: I met Shelby Foot at a Civil War conference. I 671 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 1: asked him for his autograph. I was fifteen years old. 672 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: Do you know what he said? I only signed books 673 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: for close personal friends. He turned me down. Wow, I 674 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 1: had my pen, I had my copy of his book, 675 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: and he wouldn't sign for a fifteen year rough stuff. Yeah, 676 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: it didn't. Didn't deter Clay from keep it, keep It 677 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: and all going here. Folks, dude, download the Clay and 678 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: Buck podcast wherever you listen to podcasts, subscribe to it. 679 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: Give us five stars. Go to claybuck dot com for 680 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: more stories. Tomorrow. We already have a full docket in 681 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: mind for you. We will see you then