WEBVTT - Hour 2 – Drake Maye, Matt Miller

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>It's our two on this Wednesday, Our one flew By

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<v Speaker 2>had breaking news to start the show. According to ESPN,

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<v Speaker 2>Reggie Bush is getting his Heisman trophy back. First question

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<v Speaker 2>I had was is he dropping his defamation lawsuit against

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<v Speaker 2>the NCUBA, and more importantly, does USC get.

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<v Speaker 3>Its national title back?

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<v Speaker 2>But we got calls in to the nc DOUBLEA, Pete Carroll,

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<v Speaker 2>Reggie Bush, Fritzie is working feverishly to advance the store.

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<v Speaker 2>If we locate somebody willing to come on and talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it, I would love to have the NCUBA come on,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least a statement from them. Did they do

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<v Speaker 2>this in conjunction with the Heisman Trust? I would be

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<v Speaker 2>surprised if the Heisman Trust acted upon itself and acted

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<v Speaker 2>on its own and said, you know what, on further review,

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<v Speaker 2>we're giving Reggie his Heisman back. So also, Reggie joined

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<v Speaker 2>us in January of this year, January sixteenth, and I

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<v Speaker 2>did ask him, would you drop your defamation lawsuit? If

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<v Speaker 2>you get your collegiate records restored, you get your heisman.

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<v Speaker 2>As a settlement we'll have We'll bring back a portion

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<v Speaker 2>of that interview coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>talk to Drake may here momentarily, we will talk to

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Miller ESPN Draft Animal. Is there a chance New

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<v Speaker 2>England is the team that's going to change the first

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<v Speaker 2>round of the draft, and that is that that pick,

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<v Speaker 2>that third overall is up for grabs because do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to bring in Drake Mang who may not be

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<v Speaker 2>ready to play right away? Do you want to build

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<v Speaker 2>your team and then worry about your quarterback next year

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<v Speaker 2>or the year after that. Every year we talk a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of times, we talk about the quarterbacks who aren't

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<v Speaker 2>available last year at this time, what were we talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Man if Caleb Williams was in this year's draft, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now he's in this year's draft. And then we'll have

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<v Speaker 2>some quarterbacks who are going to be available, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to have teams go, do we tank for

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<v Speaker 2>this guy? You know, is this guy worth trading up for?

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota needs a quarterback, Denver needs a quarterback? The Raiders,

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<v Speaker 2>Seattle might be, the Rams might be. You have more

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<v Speaker 2>teams who need quarterbacks or at least are interested in quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 2>then you do have actual quarterbacks. I spoke to a

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<v Speaker 2>source last night who had high praise for spend Sir Rattler.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember when he was a thing, when he came out

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<v Speaker 2>of high school, he was a thing, and then all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden he wasn't and then kind of had

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<v Speaker 2>a reclamation season with South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, some positive.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's because it's you know, supply

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<v Speaker 2>and demand. Hey, well he's considering the quarterbacks are available. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's in the mix there. I don't know if he's

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<v Speaker 2>a franchise quarterback. But there was high praise for Spencer Rattler,

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<v Speaker 2>Bo Nix, Michael Pennix Junior, the third somebody's going up,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody gets squarely. It happens every year where you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I did not see that coming, but that's gonna happen. Yes, Pauline,

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<v Speaker 3>you can.

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<v Speaker 7>Never be hotter as a quarterback than when you're not available.

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<v Speaker 7>Remember years ago, I could find stories Christian Hackenberg at

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<v Speaker 7>Penn State when he's a freshman. If the draft for today,

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<v Speaker 7>Josh Rose in a freshman at UCLA, if the draft

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<v Speaker 7>for today, Yeah, if he went a year earlier, yeah, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>but he stayed around Sam Donald, Sam Donald and Donald

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<v Speaker 7>Kapla Williams. A year ago, there was not even a

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<v Speaker 7>discussion whether he was the number one.

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<v Speaker 4>Pick of the draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>It was the biggest lock of the past five years.

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<v Speaker 2>And you still get these stories that come out. And

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<v Speaker 2>a story came out where might have been a GM

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<v Speaker 2>who said, hey, he reminds me of Prince, and I

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<v Speaker 2>go the musician, Yeah, you know, like do you want

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of player, that personality? I go, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Prince is one of the most talented musicians

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<v Speaker 2>of old time. Like was he different? Yes, but is

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<v Speaker 2>that a reason why if we're having a draft, would

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<v Speaker 2>I draft Prince?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I would. I draft him pretty high, But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know where, Like we're really trying to reach with some

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<v Speaker 2>of these quarterbacks and go. You know that guy, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean he might be wearing dresses or you got his

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<v Speaker 2>fingernail polished. Can you play when you get on the field, yes.

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<v Speaker 7>Pa, No one Evers said Prince was too short to

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<v Speaker 7>be a star rocker. No, A lot of people. Some

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<v Speaker 7>people question it, but not the people who knew music.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know at the music combine. I mean he

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<v Speaker 2>tested pretty high. Yeah, that dude who crazy talent him?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Drake may set to join us. He's partnered with Low's,

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<v Speaker 2>teaming up with them in the NFL. A local community

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<v Speaker 2>project in Detroit surprised a local contractor with an invitation

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the draft.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, Lowe's built the green.

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<v Speaker 2>Room there and you're going to get to go and

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<v Speaker 2>announce an NFL pick. So they surprised a local contractor

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<v Speaker 2>there and Drake may set to join us on the program.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we get started, give me your official height and

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<v Speaker 2>weight bisial.

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<v Speaker 4>Height and weight six four and a half two twenty

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<v Speaker 4>five right now, probably close two thirty when I get

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<v Speaker 4>closer to season, but twenty five right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Best athlete in the family.

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<v Speaker 6>Is I'm a mom?

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<v Speaker 3>Your mom?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sir, Yeah, she was a great athlete in high school.

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<v Speaker 4>She doesn't show as much now, but she grabs some

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<v Speaker 4>clubs and uh, you know, played nine holes, she'll play eighteen.

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<v Speaker 4>But she she grabs some clubs, she'll she'll still beat

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<v Speaker 4>us us us us brothers. So it's it's pretty sad, but.

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<v Speaker 2>About it with you and your brothers. Best athlete amongst

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<v Speaker 2>the three?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, myself. I think it's a pretty easy answer athletes,

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<v Speaker 4>But I'll take myself all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, what's the best thing that's happened through this whole

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<v Speaker 2>process so far?

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<v Speaker 4>The best thing that's happened, you know, I think the

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<v Speaker 4>chances to reflect on my college years and how far,

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<v Speaker 4>how many different people, you know, kind of poured into

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<v Speaker 4>my life and being a chance to reflect and see

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<v Speaker 4>how many special people in my life and maybe this

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<v Speaker 4>moment special and to be here on Thursday with all

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<v Speaker 4>my my family and all my brothers coming into one

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<v Speaker 4>place and all my friends and family to enjoy one

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<v Speaker 4>moment kind of reflect on that and kind of you

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<v Speaker 4>always dream of this and kind of coming to it

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<v Speaker 4>and realizing that it's about to happen. It's pretty pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>What team did you grow up liking?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, Panthers fan. He was Panthers fan. You know, we

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<v Speaker 4>got season tickets and you know, when Cam Newton came

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<v Speaker 4>and it was you know, it was the best thing ever.

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<v Speaker 4>So we are big Panthers fans.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you met Cam?

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<v Speaker 6>I have?

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<v Speaker 3>I have?

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<v Speaker 4>He played I played him in seven on seven He

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<v Speaker 4>coached seven on seven team and we played him, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>growing up, and he had He has a good squad.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a big guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's huge. Yeah. I'm about six six four and

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<v Speaker 4>a six five and he's been like two inches tar

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<v Speaker 4>than me, probably like thirty pounds on me. So he's

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<v Speaker 4>a big dude.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as other teams that you visit, give me

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<v Speaker 2>something interesting that you've been.

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<v Speaker 4>Asked instant I've been asked.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a good question. Probably the most interesting they've been

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<v Speaker 4>asked is kind of why me. I think that's that's

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<v Speaker 4>always the most interesting. You know, you always start with

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<v Speaker 4>that and say, watch we draft you, And I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's one of those questions that hey kind of puts

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<v Speaker 4>you on the spot, but to kind of ready for it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm just ready to be kind of be the

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<v Speaker 4>guy and ready to kind of translate my game in

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<v Speaker 4>the NFL. I'll fit in the NFL game a little more.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm excited for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, But when they say why you do, they want

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<v Speaker 2>to know if you want to start? Like is that

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<v Speaker 2>part of this too, that hey, I want to commit

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<v Speaker 2>and start or yeah, you know that we we'd prefer

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to come in and want to learn exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why it's tricky. You kind of have to play

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<v Speaker 4>it both ways because obviously, you know, the competitor and me,

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<v Speaker 4>you want to go in there and start right away

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, be a be a be the gay,

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<v Speaker 4>the you know, the game one guy and the day

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<v Speaker 4>one starter. But the same time, that's not reality and

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<v Speaker 4>get you ready forever. So I'm just kind of ready

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<v Speaker 4>to compete that, you know, like I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 4>the starter and you know, up to their decision, but

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to try to prove that I'm ready to

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<v Speaker 4>be the starter. Other than that, you're ready, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to learn and and uh, you know, wait until you

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<v Speaker 4>know I'm iron that job.

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<v Speaker 3>What's it like to read the negative reviews.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, try not to. I think that's the you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest fault of athletes in our space, especially how

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<v Speaker 4>base social media is nowaday. You know, so many, so

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<v Speaker 4>many fans out there that that don't like you, and

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<v Speaker 4>there's even more that that're a fan of you. So

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<v Speaker 4>try to enjoy the positives. And you know, unless it's

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<v Speaker 4>my coach or well, my family members or somebody in

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<v Speaker 4>an inner circle, you know, saying something negative about me

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<v Speaker 4>or someone I need to change, and that's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a different, you know, different subject than you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Joe smo works at Applebee's or something.

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<v Speaker 2>But do do your brothers look for the negative stuff

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<v Speaker 2>just to give you grief? To say, like, if you

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<v Speaker 2>were my brother, I'd be trying to find some things

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<v Speaker 2>to needle you a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Would your brother stoop to that level?

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<v Speaker 4>No, we got real personally they would. But I think

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<v Speaker 4>my brothers have been three of my biggest supporters, So

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<v Speaker 4>I think, uh kind of much to get to this

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<v Speaker 4>stage in the NFL. There's so many people out there

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<v Speaker 4>that that aren't fans of you and saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>negative stuff. So I think if your brothers, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a certain point.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe in high school sports you get on for something,

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<v Speaker 4>but kind of on this stage, I think it's a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit past.

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<v Speaker 3>That favorite quarterback when you were growing up.

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<v Speaker 4>Favorite quarterback Cam Newton was my first one, being a

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<v Speaker 4>big Panthers fan or Anon Rodgers. I was a big

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<v Speaker 4>Annon Rodgers fan.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you met Rogers?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not, Nope, but I have not.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's go around the room. Has Drake met Michael Jordan? Todd,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll start with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say no, Seaton. I got to know on

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<v Speaker 3>that one, Marvin. Yes, Paulie Drake played basketball.

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<v Speaker 7>He's been in his presence before Michael Jordan's presence.

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<v Speaker 2>And his brother played on a national title. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>in North Carolina. I'm gonna say, yes, you've met Michael Jordan.

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<v Speaker 4>I have met him.

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<v Speaker 3>J all right, pretty mj oh, it's MJ. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>If you call him your goat, he's got to be MJ.

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<v Speaker 9>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't call Michael Jordan, you call him the goat, MJ.

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<v Speaker 3>So what'd you talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm met him at the halftime with one of the

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<v Speaker 4>basketball games. I'm not getting recruited. Coach Brown, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>brought me down there and very sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>That's nice. That's a part of your NIL package. You

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<v Speaker 2>get to meet Michael Jordan.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in high school. In high school before I

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<v Speaker 4>even uh committed, so I was committed Alabama at the time,

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<v Speaker 4>so getting to meet him, you know, getting to meet

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<v Speaker 4>him was pretty sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's that conversation like when you call Saban and

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<v Speaker 2>you say, coach, I'm not coming to Alabama.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Tough. Yeah. I tried it for a while. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>being with coach Saban, he's one of my favorite and

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<v Speaker 4>recruiting process, so having to tell him that I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>stay home was tough. But I think coach Savan understood

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<v Speaker 4>and shoot, you know, maybe they would have worked out

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<v Speaker 4>a little differently by the same time. You know, coach

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<v Speaker 4>Saban he's you know, I think he's the goat of

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<v Speaker 4>college football.

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<v Speaker 3>So he did. Okay he did. Okay, you're not all right?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh Draft night suit? You already got it picked up?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm simple, no swag, so I'm gonna keep it simple.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, is there a light blue Carol? Is there a

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina blue in the suit?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you want to, you know, find out.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because you might do like a New York Giants

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<v Speaker 2>blue or.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's a little too world closer to Duke. I

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<v Speaker 4>can't wear blue at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you could have like Patriot blue in there, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>that Navy.

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<v Speaker 4>So if i'd wear any blue would be Carolina.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know where you're going?

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<v Speaker 4>I wish I did, and I wish it was that easy. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll know when I hear that phone ring.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you I mean, do you have an idea?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, have to tell me, but do you have

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<v Speaker 2>an idea?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I have an idea. Okay, all right?

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<v Speaker 3>And do you like the cold?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't mind it at all. Okay, you gotta play football.

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<v Speaker 4>Football is cold, wetter sport nowadays.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to make sure. Do you plan on

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<v Speaker 2>hugging the commissioner or you're going to give like just

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<v Speaker 2>a firm hamshick.

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<v Speaker 6>Mmm.

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't thought about that one hugging him. Oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>It strikes me as a hugger. You did. Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe maybe uh maybe like a like a dap and

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<v Speaker 4>a one arm around okay, you know a hug, a

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<v Speaker 4>two arm hug. It doesn't seem like.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't treat him like your mom when you come home.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that when when I see the draft, guys

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<v Speaker 2>do that and they pick him up and we don't

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<v Speaker 2>need that.

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<v Speaker 4>That'd be that'd be funny. We got I think pretty

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<v Speaker 4>cool though. Some of the big d linemen are off

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<v Speaker 4>the line, and I think that fits so all right.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to be the next Peyton Manning when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to selling products. So here's your turn. You're you're

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<v Speaker 2>joining us on behalf of Low's. Let me hear Drake

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<v Speaker 2>may pitch Lows.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, first off Lows. You know it's a snow kind

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<v Speaker 4>of company. It was an easy fit for me. I

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<v Speaker 4>was excited when this opportunity came kind of right Off

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<v Speaker 4>the Bat was joining joined their home team as the

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<v Speaker 4>newest member, and ra Off the Bat them helping in

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<v Speaker 4>the community and got a community service event tomorrow. I'll

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<v Speaker 4>be helping out at I'll just give him back the community.

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<v Speaker 4>It means so much to me and kind of an

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<v Speaker 4>easy fit. You know. I grew up you know Loaws

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<v Speaker 4>right across the street in the neighborhood shopping center. And shoot,

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<v Speaker 4>when we had our our we need our driveway extended,

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<v Speaker 4>we went to Lows to get a half court hoop

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<v Speaker 4>and uh you know, get ready to go. And we

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<v Speaker 4>had our our backyard. We had a long part forty

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<v Speaker 4>our backyard that we painted with Low's pain and we

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<v Speaker 4>did it all. So H think, you know, one of

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<v Speaker 4>the coolest things. I was here two weeks ago and

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<v Speaker 4>we came in the Lows and I did a you know,

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<v Speaker 4>kind of a pre draft, little draft shoot and it

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<v Speaker 4>was awesome. We got we even surprised one of the

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<v Speaker 4>local pros at Low's, you know, with the chance to

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<v Speaker 4>go up on stage and announce a pick and just

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<v Speaker 4>stuff like that just means so much to me. And uh,

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<v Speaker 4>Low's is a great company and a partner of the NFL,

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<v Speaker 4>and little things like that go a long way. And

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<v Speaker 4>my family is you know, full surprises. We love surprising.

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<v Speaker 3>So that fit right in uh is the green room

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<v Speaker 3>built by Lows.

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<v Speaker 4>It is you had loads did it all, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the draft stays did it all. So I got to

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<v Speaker 4>walk by it and preview all, you know, two weeks

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<v Speaker 4>ago and I get a little preview, And now walking

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<v Speaker 4>across the Thursday will be we'll be special, even more

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<v Speaker 4>special now that you know I got to see it

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<v Speaker 4>before and partner to the lows and know that they

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<v Speaker 4>all did the work.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, good luck, good luck with the giants and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, you started thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't you didn't react when I said good luck

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<v Speaker 2>with the giants there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, shoot, you know, if you could throw an any team

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<v Speaker 4>in there now, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Ready to play forever Carolina. You're not going to be playing.

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<v Speaker 4>For Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I wish. So now it's got

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<v Speaker 4>to handle.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good luck, congratulations, have fun Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks, Dan, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, Drake may Hey, he wishes.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of times you'll get I'm hearing Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know you're who you're hearing from. That's always

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous because you can you can circle a comment or

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<v Speaker 2>a quote or opinion by saying, you know, I'm hearing

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<v Speaker 2>from who. I've had neighbors who want to talk sports

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll go, hey, you know what I'm hearing. I'll go,

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<v Speaker 2>who are you hearing it from? First of all, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>the mailman Jimmy Lipper down the block and you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>to him. You know I'm hearing Yeah, see.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it that Cardinals pick of four? That's the real

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<v Speaker 3>wild Card.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Patriots at three now they may say, look,

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<v Speaker 2>we're set on our quarterback. We got our quarterback, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're not going to be up here in a position again.

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<v Speaker 5>They are classic trader outers though nothing yes, well Belichick was,

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<v Speaker 5>Belichick was, yeh yeah, you know the Cardinals pick and

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<v Speaker 5>then you got the Chargers, and it feels like those

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<v Speaker 5>teams are you know, in business to move down?

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<v Speaker 3>Question is what's it cost to move up. We'll take

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<v Speaker 3>a break.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk NFL Draft with Matt Miller get his final

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<v Speaker 2>mock draft here. Also, we'll keep an eye on the

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<v Speaker 2>Reggie Bush story. We did hear from a former Heisman

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<v Speaker 2>Trophy winner who was at the reception, the ceremony this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's already happened that Reggie got his Heisman back.

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<v Speaker 2>And we heard from a Heisman Trophy winner who said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was there, send us a picture and I go,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be damn, they've already done this breaking news. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. Yeah, I think there were like ten

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<v Speaker 2>to fifteen Heisman Trophy winners who showed up for this.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see if we can get more information for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a break back after this. Fox Sports Radio has

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<v Speaker 2>Still a wild story this morning. Reggie Bush has already

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<v Speaker 2>gotten his heisman back. Had a ceremony this morning. Saw

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<v Speaker 2>a picture with him in the former Nebraska quarterback Eric Crouch,

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<v Speaker 2>arm in arm and they're like, yeah, Reggie's back in

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<v Speaker 2>the I don't know how early this was that they

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<v Speaker 2>was everybody up early in Los Angeles to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to do this. Were they in Florida. Looks like it's

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<v Speaker 2>warm weather, but it's early, and Reggie got his heisman back.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to know NCAA involved in this. To

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<v Speaker 2>what degree does it stop a defamation lawsuit? I will

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<v Speaker 2>bring you back the question and Reggie's answer when he

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<v Speaker 2>joined us in January when I asked him about that,

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<v Speaker 2>would you drop the defamation lawsuit if you get all

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<v Speaker 2>your records in the heisman back? So we'll have that

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<v Speaker 2>for you coming up. Matt Miller is a busy guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a draft analyst for the Mothership. He'll be part

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<v Speaker 2>of the broadcast there on ESPN and ABC kind enough

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<v Speaker 2>to join us. How close are the top quarterback let's

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<v Speaker 2>say the top four quarterbacks?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah? Pretty close. I think for me, Cal Williams is

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<v Speaker 8>far and away the best, and I think he's in

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<v Speaker 8>a tier by himself. Jayden Daniels says separated himself over

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<v Speaker 8>the last year, certainly, but definitely over the past few months,

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<v Speaker 8>I think as well. And then you have Drape May,

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<v Speaker 8>who some people like a lot. JJ McCarthy again, who

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<v Speaker 8>some people really really like. But I do think that

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<v Speaker 8>they are much closer now than they were four months ago.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, like the last time we saw these guys

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<v Speaker 8>play football, they were not very closely raped. What happens

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<v Speaker 8>over the course of the process is guys interview.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 8>JJ McCarthy's pro day was one of the best pro

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<v Speaker 8>days that a quarterback has had in a couple processes,

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<v Speaker 8>and in the interview process also teams fall in love

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<v Speaker 8>with these guys and that over inflates their stock a

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<v Speaker 8>little bit. I think that's what we're seeing. If for

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<v Speaker 8>these quarterbacks go in the top six tomorrow night, and

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<v Speaker 8>I think they will, then we're looking at another draft

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<v Speaker 8>in which teams have fallen in love. Because we're in

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<v Speaker 8>this model of you go up and get your guy

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<v Speaker 8>or you wait for the next year. The second round

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<v Speaker 8>quarterback kind of dead, like the developmental quarterback is dead.

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<v Speaker 8>You either get a top ten pick or you sometimes

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<v Speaker 8>you get lucky with the bron party.

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<v Speaker 3>Where's the draft start?

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<v Speaker 8>I think it starts at three. Caleb Williams is gonna

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<v Speaker 8>go first. That is the worst kept secret in the

0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:11.360
<v Speaker 8>world right now. I feel very strongly Jayden Daniels goes

0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:13.320
<v Speaker 8>number two, but I think there is room. I don't

0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:15.880
<v Speaker 8>know if they're top golfing in Detroit today that maybe

0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.400
<v Speaker 8>we can figure out exactly who's gonna go number two.

0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:20.679
<v Speaker 8>But I feel good about Jayden Daniels going to I

0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.600
<v Speaker 8>think they've smoothed over their differences. Three is where it

0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:26.959
<v Speaker 8>starts because New England could certainly stick and pick. They

0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:29.320
<v Speaker 8>could take Drake may They could run it back with

0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:33.439
<v Speaker 8>another Michigan quarterback. Jim Harbaugh says, Jim McCarthy's the greatest

0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.840
<v Speaker 8>Michigan quarterback of all time. If you believe that, then

0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:38.119
<v Speaker 8>you have to take him over Tom Brady. But I

0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:40.480
<v Speaker 8>think three is where it starts because they could take

0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:42.879
<v Speaker 8>one of those guys. They could do the kind of

0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:45.919
<v Speaker 8>crazy thing and take Marvin Harrison Junior, who is for

0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:48.280
<v Speaker 8>a lot of people the best player in this draft.

0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:50.720
<v Speaker 8>Or they could trade back, and I think all those

0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:53.119
<v Speaker 8>scenarios are certainly on the table. The hard thing with

0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:55.600
<v Speaker 8>New England is we don't know who's really running the

0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:58.639
<v Speaker 8>show there. Is it Jonathan Kraft is it? John Mayo?

0:21:58.840 --> 0:21:59.000
<v Speaker 6>Is it?

0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:02.159
<v Speaker 8>Elliott Wolf? Is kind of a consortium of people who

0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:04.400
<v Speaker 8>are calling the shots there, so it makes it difficult

0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:07.399
<v Speaker 8>to try to even know who to call, and also

0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.720
<v Speaker 8>to predict based on you know, maybe what they've done historically.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if somebody's asked Jim Harball of this,

0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:16.920
<v Speaker 2>but I would say, Jim, you love JJ McCarthy, you

0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:21.000
<v Speaker 2>really love him, Well, why don't you trade Justin Herbert?

0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:23.800
<v Speaker 2>And then you'll get JJ McCarthy on his rookie deal?

0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:27.399
<v Speaker 2>And wouldn't that be better suited for building this team?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you think he would answer that question?

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think he would. I think we would get

0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:37.160
<v Speaker 8>I'm sure you remember San Francisco forty nine ers era

0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:41.560
<v Speaker 8>Jim Harball was a lot different than Michigan era Jim Harball.

0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:45.280
<v Speaker 8>You would get the most sarcastic answer after he stared

0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:47.720
<v Speaker 8>and blinked at you for several seconds, making you feel

0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:50.640
<v Speaker 8>like you're the dumbest person on earth. He's really calmed

0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:53.199
<v Speaker 8>down in his old age. So I don't think you

0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:55.199
<v Speaker 8>would answer. But that is a fair question. Hey, if

0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:58.280
<v Speaker 8>McCarthy's this good, why not trade Herbert? And I'm sure

0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:00.399
<v Speaker 8>his answer would be, you know, some type of pr

0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:03.160
<v Speaker 8>spin of he's the best in this draft, but Justin

0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:04.760
<v Speaker 8>would be, you know, the number one guy if he

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:07.480
<v Speaker 8>were in it. But I know they're you know, early

0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 8>on those those conspiracy theories definitely existed.

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:14.000
<v Speaker 2>We're talking to Matt Miller, ESPN Draft expert. Give me

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:18.399
<v Speaker 2>the team that could really like turn this sideways, and

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:20.800
<v Speaker 2>maybe that's New England, but I don't. Is there another

0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 2>team where you go, wow, that could really shake up

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:24.680
<v Speaker 2>the first round?

0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:27.080
<v Speaker 8>New England definitely is the one.

0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:27.360
<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 8>The other right now is if the Minnesota Vikings don't

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:32.879
<v Speaker 8>trade up to get the quarterback. You know, six weeks

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.960
<v Speaker 8>ago they acquired the Houston Texas first round pick that's

0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 8>number twenty three overall, so they're sitting here right now

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:42.439
<v Speaker 8>picks eleven and twenty three. No team has ever acquired

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:45.239
<v Speaker 8>a first round pick six weeks before the draft. It

0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:47.439
<v Speaker 8>just doesn't happen unless it's in the top three and

0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:49.880
<v Speaker 8>you know you're getting a quarterback. So they really signaled

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 8>at that point we're open for business. We have two

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:54.200
<v Speaker 8>first round picks. We want to go get a quarterback.

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:56.360
<v Speaker 8>If they don't do that, it would be I think,

0:23:56.480 --> 0:24:00.680
<v Speaker 8>very surprising, very risky. If you you know, you're Minnesota

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 8>and you have the same grade on JJ McCarthy and

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:05.399
<v Speaker 8>Bo Nicks, maybe you sit there at eleven, say hey,

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 8>JJ doesn't make it to us. Cool. You know, we'll

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:10.439
<v Speaker 8>take a corner or a defensive tackle and then at

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 8>twenty three we'll draft Bownicks. It's risky, but you could.

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 8>You could certainly do that, and I think we've we

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:19.439
<v Speaker 8>saw this last year with Houston and Arizona being super aggressive,

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:22.480
<v Speaker 8>but also they played the board really well to get

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:26.360
<v Speaker 8>into the ideal positions to take their guys. And I'm

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 8>very curious to see if we see copycats tomorrow night

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.200
<v Speaker 8>of teams that think, hey, we'll trade back a couple

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:33.920
<v Speaker 8>spots and then if we need to, we'll just move

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:37.119
<v Speaker 8>back up. It's risky, but it makes it a lot

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:38.640
<v Speaker 8>of fun if it works.

0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:41.160
<v Speaker 2>And it feels like once again we have a plethora

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 2>of wide receivers, like top end wide receivers, but there

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:49.360
<v Speaker 2>are a lot of draft experts scouts who don't want

0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:52.399
<v Speaker 2>to take a wide receiver in the top five or

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:54.520
<v Speaker 2>even top ten. Where do you stand on that?

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:58.920
<v Speaker 8>I think if it's an elite prospects like Marvin Harrison Junior,

0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 8>then you do it. I would put the leak neighbors

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:03.359
<v Speaker 8>and roll with Doings up there as well. They would

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 8>all three would have been the number one receiver last year,

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:08.359
<v Speaker 8>no matter how you had it ranked, they would have

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 8>been drafted highly last year as well. I think guys

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 8>like Zay Flowers and Jackson Smith and Jig but Jordan

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:17.159
<v Speaker 8>Addison would be probably drafted in the late teams to

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:19.439
<v Speaker 8>early twenties this year like they were last year. But

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:21.360
<v Speaker 8>you know their draft stock would say about the same.

0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:24.439
<v Speaker 8>So I get the argument of, hey, this is a

0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 8>position you can find value late. First look at Justin Jefferson.

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:29.359
<v Speaker 8>You can find value in the second round. You have

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 8>aj Brown and Deebo Samuel and Rashid Rice. Last year,

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:34.119
<v Speaker 8>I had a huge year for the Chiefs. This is

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 8>a second round pick, so you could certainly find that

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 8>value in round two. I think when it's a transcendent player,

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 8>you know, like Jamar Chase was. When you can get

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 8>a player like that, it's worthy of the top ten pick.

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:46.959
<v Speaker 8>But you certainly hear that, you know, of top ten

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 8>should be a quarterback, a tackle or a pass rusher.

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 8>You know that's that's really it. Now this year we're

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:52.720
<v Speaker 8>going to see a lot of that. We're going to

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:55.879
<v Speaker 8>see a lot of those guys early. But the expense

0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 8>of wide receivers. Justin Jefferson's going to get like thirty

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 8>million dollars a year has made it to where if

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 8>you can hit on one even in the top ten,

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 8>it's still a really good value.

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm wondering about this with Justin Jefferson. You let

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Kirk Cousins go. You got Jefferson there, he's going to

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:15.679
<v Speaker 2>charge you. You know you're gonna it's gonna cost you

0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 2>thirty million dollars. You're going to bring in a rookie

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 2>quarterback or maybe you have Sam Darnold there, are you

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:24.680
<v Speaker 2>really threatening this year? What could you get for Justin

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Jefferson that once again allows you to reset everything. If

0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 2>you're going to draft a quarterback, now I got to reset.

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:33.440
<v Speaker 2>You got Addison there, you got a running back there,

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 2>got an offensive minded head coach. But what do you

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 2>do say, Look, we have the best receiver in football.

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 2>We're going to keep him and help out our rookie

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 2>quarterback at thirty milliye.

0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 8>That's the I think that's what they're going to do,

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 8>because your fan base would revolt if you traded a

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 8>twenty five year old best receiver in football. But that's

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 8>you know, in your hypothetical here, if you called the

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 8>Arizona Cardinals and said Hey, instead of taking a chance

0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.640
<v Speaker 8>on the best receiver in the draft, we would trade

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:01.640
<v Speaker 8>you the best receiver in football. It's going to cost

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 8>you four overall. The Cardinals have twenty seven overall, so

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 8>you're probably gonna want that, and I would want more

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 8>than that, though, I would want more than the two.

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.879
<v Speaker 8>First for Justin Jefferson, even understanding that you're gonna have

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 8>to turn around and pay him.

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:15.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I don't want to pay him thirty million.

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 2>I would rather take one of these other receivers that

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.440
<v Speaker 2>it just I mean, we're looking at Dallas right now, Matt.

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean they got to pay Dak because Jerry handled

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 2>this poorly. Cede Lamb should be locked up.

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:32.639
<v Speaker 2>He's going to cost you even more. Micah Parson's going

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 2>to cost you thirty million c D. Lamb probably twenty

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 2>five or so, and then Dak's going to cost you

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:41.160
<v Speaker 2>fifty five to sixty million dollars a year.

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:42.679
<v Speaker 3>You can't wait with that.

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 8>You can't. Dallas is a poor blueprint for what anyone does.

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 8>I mean, it's terrible. Three you could argue the three

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 8>most important positions of football, and they have guys entering

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 8>the contract here at the same time. It's it's not

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 8>a good plan. I think Philadelphia is the model of

0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 8>you draft good players and you pay them early, you know,

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 8>and there's a risk. We've seen that blow up, you know,

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 8>with Daniel Jones and Carson Wentz and some of the

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 8>some of the quarterbacks. I would argue they weren't good players,

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 8>they were just they were just paid because of you know,

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:12.399
<v Speaker 8>sentimental value. But I think that's the idea is draft,

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:14.439
<v Speaker 8>you know, draft Devon to Smith that when you realize

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 8>he's a hit, you pay him after that third year

0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 8>because the salary cap is only going to continue to,

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 8>you know, go up at astronomical value, and guys are

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 8>gonna just want a bigger piece of that pie. So

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 8>I'm with you, don't do not look at Dallas if

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 8>you're an aspiring general manager, don't look at what Dallas

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 8>has done. Or you know the New Orleans Saints teams

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 8>like that that every year they're trying to scramble to

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 8>figure things out because they've mismanaged either their salary cap

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 8>or the way that they do their contracts.

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 3>What do you think Buffalo does.

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 8>I think Buffalo would love to move heaven and Earth

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 8>to get Roma Doonze and I actually I completely agree

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 8>with this strategy. If you're Buffalo and you've gotten so

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 8>close to to taking over the AFC, but you can't

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 8>beat Mahomes and the Chiefs, you just can't do it

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 8>when it matters. So you've gotten that close, why not

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 8>go all in to try to do it? And I

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 8>don't know that a you know, pick at twenty eight

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 8>overall is going to be the difference for them. I

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 8>think now's the time you know that you're going to

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 8>be picking late in the first round every year because

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 8>you have Josh Allen and you have a good coaching

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 8>staff that it's always going to put a good defense

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 8>out there. How valuable is next year's pick number twenty

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:20.959
<v Speaker 8>eight or twenty nine overall if you could take this

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 8>year's first, next year's first and get Aroma Dune, say

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.719
<v Speaker 8>in the top ten, potentially, I think Buffalo is one

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 8>of the few teams really where you can make that

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 8>argument of you're close. You have the quarterback, you have

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:34.959
<v Speaker 8>the infrastructure. What you need is like you were saying, Dan,

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 8>you need that rookie wide receiver. You need that guy

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 8>making five million dollars a year who could be one

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 8>of the top players at his position, So why not

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 8>go for broke? What do you have to lose? If

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 8>you're Buffalo, You've gotten you know, you've had leads. You

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 8>were up with thirteen seconds left in arrowhead like you're there,

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 8>So why not make that big play, the splash move,

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 8>you know, the Julio Jones type trade to go get

0:29:57.880 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 8>a roma dune.

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 3>Say give me your wild prediction for tomorrow.

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 8>That would be one the buffalo. Just I had a

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 8>scout text me this, The Buffalo is going big game

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 8>hunting when it comes to the wide receiver. So that

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 8>was something that I toyed with in my final mock draft.

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 8>I still think Michael Pennocks Junior is one of those things.

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 8>And I know you know a lot more people than

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 8>I do, but it's the one thing that I can't

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 8>stop hearing is that Michael Pinnox is going to go

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 8>in the top twenty. He's going to go a lot

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 8>earlier than people think. So I don't know if I'm

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 8>being told that, So that I'll hop on the Dan

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 8>Patrick Show and say it and teams will oh panic

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 8>and freak out that, oh my gosh, Michael Penock Junior

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 8>is going earlier. But a lot of folks are saying

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 8>that to the point that it's hard to tune it out.

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I heard the same thing, you know. One of my sources,

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 2>whose a scout, said he just consumes football like we

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:48.719
<v Speaker 2>love it. The injury doesn't the injuries don't scare us.

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 2>We loved what we saw, and I go, okay, because

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to figure this out, like who's really telling

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 2>you the truth and right? But I don't know if

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 2>anybody reacts to this. Matt if if all of a sudden,

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Sean Payton's going, wait, what did Dan say? Now We're

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>going to have to go up and get in We

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 2>got to spend I don't know if anybody, if you,

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 2>are reacting to what we're saying. I got real concerns,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for those gms and coaches, But I.

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<v Speaker 8>Know they you know, I'm not trying to brag about

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<v Speaker 8>this like they read the mock drafts because I get

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<v Speaker 8>the called, you know, like, hey, who do you have

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<v Speaker 8>us taking? I was at Michigan's prota and a GM

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<v Speaker 8>came up to me, and actually I felt bad. I

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 8>didn't recognize him because I was kind of in the bulment.

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<v Speaker 8>He's like, hey, who do you have us taking and

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 8>I was like, oh, oh yeah, okay, I have you

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<v Speaker 8>taken this player? And it was like okay. And so

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 8>maybe he just wanted to start a conversation that way.

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<v Speaker 8>But I do think that they I do know that

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<v Speaker 8>they read the mock drafts and they listen to the

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<v Speaker 8>intel because maybe, you know, maybe mel Kiper hasn't dug it.

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<v Speaker 8>That will actually help you. You know, know that you

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<v Speaker 8>have to jump someone.

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<v Speaker 3>To get your player good to talk to. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're busy, have fun tomorrow and night. Thank you man,

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Matt Miller, ESPN NFL Draft Analyst, part of ESPN's coverage.

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<v Speaker 2>Something's happening, something has to happen tomorrow night. I just

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 2>feel that way. Wow, oh we just got this. Am

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<v Speaker 2>I allowed to read this?

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<v Speaker 3>Tod Sure?

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<v Speaker 6>Why not?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you know what, I'll take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from a former Heisman Trophy winner who was

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<v Speaker 2>at the ceremony this morning for Reggie Bush, and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>bring back part of the interview I did with Reggie

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<v Speaker 2>when I ask him, would you drop the defamation lawsuit

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<v Speaker 2>against the NCAA if they said, here's your Heisman and

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<v Speaker 2>your records back.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll have that for you coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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<v Speaker 1>on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio wap UH.

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<v Speaker 2>Just got this from Eric Crouch, former Heisman Trophy winner

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback at Nebraska. The Heisman winners didn't know about this

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<v Speaker 2>happening today. It was a surprise to us. The location

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<v Speaker 2>was Ponta verdre verdre Beach, Florida. Or is it Pontra

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<v Speaker 2>Vidra Vidra. Yeah, Ponta Vidra. I think that's the home

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<v Speaker 2>of the PGA, the Heisman Summit. I believe Reggie is

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 2>on his way back home now. It was exciting to

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:23.959
<v Speaker 2>see him to get his trophy back today. Eric Crouch

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 2>and so Eric in a picture there with Reggie Bush.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess they invited Reggie. Reggie knew he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to get the Heisman. Those showing up probably went, wait,

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 2>what's Reggie doing here? Or maybe you bring him in

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<v Speaker 2>a big surprise. He comes in. You know, he's got

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<v Speaker 2>the Heisman with him. Guys are sitting down having breakfast,

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 2>probably signing some autographs there, maybe playing some golf. Reggie

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 2>comes in he's got his suit on, bring the heisman in,

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<v Speaker 2>have all the heisman winners there. Because this wasn't one

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 2>of those Hey I'm hearing that this might happen. It was,

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<v Speaker 2>this happened, and now we're going to report on it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what happened with the ESPN. It happened.

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<v Speaker 3>And then all of a sudden, it's like Reggie's getting

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<v Speaker 3>his heisman back.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, what if Reggie was invited to the summit and

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<v Speaker 9>he's like, no, I'm not going to be around or

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 9>I'm not interest are not available, but they want to

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:15.839
<v Speaker 9>do this big surprise, and then they got to ruin

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 9>the surprise on the phone. Is the only way to

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<v Speaker 9>make sure he Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he was surprised when he got there.

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I think Reggie went there knowing he was getting his

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 2>heisman back. I don't think he was like, hun, going

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 2>to Florida. They want me to go to the Heisman Summit. Well,

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 2>why they won't give you your heisman back?

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<v Speaker 3>That's food and drinks.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it sounds like fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I'm going to guess they say to REGI, Hey,

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 2>we're going to surprise the heisman winners, and uh, we're

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 2>happy to give your heisman back. I'm guessing that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Eric in Pennsylvania. Good morning, Eric, what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 6>Hi? Six one two five. I just wanted to kind

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<v Speaker 6>of throw a scenario that old guy like me get

0:34:57.160 --> 0:35:01.240
<v Speaker 6>off my line, kind of guy, what's right? The rules

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:03.799
<v Speaker 6>in place? They want their penny bang buscus. I got

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 6>to get out of here before they with Reggie and

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:10.879
<v Speaker 6>all the players, nothing roles. In two thousand and four,

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<v Speaker 6>here's a kind of a similar thing to see, see

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 6>what you guys think. In two thousand and four, the

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:17.360
<v Speaker 6>speed limit of my road was fifty five. I was

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 6>caught going seventy, so I was fined. He got points

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 6>twenty twenty four. The speed limits seventy on my road.

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<v Speaker 6>Do I get my points back? Do I get my

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<v Speaker 6>money back? I mean, it's just to me again, old

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 6>guy here just saying, why don't they just let it go?

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 6>I'm glad he's getting it, a guess, But when the

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 6>rules change and they weren't that way when you got it,

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 6>I mean, how do you I'll all of a sudden

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 6>say forget about it.

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<v Speaker 3>So now I understand what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Eric, he broke a rule and it cost USC dearly

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 2>cost him the Heisman trophy. Does the USC get the

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.799
<v Speaker 2>national title back? I mean, those are the things that

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know. You want to give Reggie a trophy?

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, we all know what we saw. He was

0:35:56.320 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 2>the best player in college football. But USC lost it title,

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 2>They lost whatever fourteen wins Pete Carroll and then the

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 2>sanctions that were imposed on USC. I mean it decimated

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 2>the program, all right. So Reggie was on the show

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 2>back in mid January, and I asked him if he

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 2>would be willing to Now there's a defamation lawsuit going

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 2>on with the NC DOUBLEA. Now that doesn't have anything

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 2>to do with the heisman, but are the two combining

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 2>their efforts here to stave off a defamation lawsuit by

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Reggie Bush? So I asked him, would he be willing

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<v Speaker 2>to drop his defamation lawsuit with the mc DOUBA in

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 2>return he gets his records and his heisman back.

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 4>It's too late, it's too we passed.

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 11>We way past that.

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 2>We pass the But if they restore your records, then

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:48.320
<v Speaker 2>you get the heisman.

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 11>They're gonna have to do that anyway, that's gonna happen anyway.

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 11>All that's gonna happen anyway, because again, I don't know

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 11>if you heard what I said.

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<v Speaker 8>A lie is a lie, right, and so if it's

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 8>a lie, then it's going to be exposed.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 11>We'll find out in his lawsuit, you know what I'm saying.

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:09.840
<v Speaker 11>We'll find out who's really telling the truth. And that's

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<v Speaker 11>what's the most amazing part about it is.

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<v Speaker 12>We've never young, We've never been able to do this

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:18.879
<v Speaker 12>for so long, I've never been I haven't been able

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 12>to do this, which is you know, father's lawsuit against

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 12>the NCAA until they made that statement, you know.

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 11>And so that's again, that's that's what you guys are

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 11>seeing now for the first time, you're seeing my story,

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:35.360
<v Speaker 11>my case being tried in an official way, you know,

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 11>in the court of law, which is something that the

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:38.240
<v Speaker 11>end of the way, has.

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 4>Never had to do.

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 8>They never had to prove their case in the court

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 8>of law.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was January sixteenth of this past year. And

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 2>he sounded pretty confident there, right, Marvin working together, Yeah, Pauline.

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 7>I think the Heisman when they decided to do this,

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 7>alerted the NCAA and then said they didn't want any

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 7>part of it because the nca usually fights to the

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:04.919
<v Speaker 7>death against things like this.

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 2>But if they can fend off a defamation lawsuit, would

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 2>you be willing to swallow your pride and go okay?

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:15.919
<v Speaker 3>All right?

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 7>Knowing the NCAA, I think they would fight it for years.

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 2>But just a new new regime, you know, Charlie Baker,

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 2>that's fair. So maybe you just have somebody who has

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:27.880
<v Speaker 2>a different mindset, maybe a little more open minded to

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 2>this and willing to go okay.

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 7>But the can of worms they may have opened. I mean,

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 7>if I'm Michigan Basketball.

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:37.880
<v Speaker 3>If I'm fab five, I'm like, hey, we'd liked our

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:38.400
<v Speaker 3>banners back.

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:42.399
<v Speaker 5>Lawyer up, Yes, this might be too harsh, But what

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 5>pride does the NCAAA currently have left?

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Like, I'm not joking.

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 5>They have conferences openly revolting saying we're just going to

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:52.800
<v Speaker 5>form our own thing in the next couple of years.

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 5>That I mean they they are completely silent in all

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 5>matters other than their name being at the top of

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:01.440
<v Speaker 5>the March Madness Tournament.

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 2>NCAA strip usc of fourteen wins the games that Reggie

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:11.800
<v Speaker 2>played in, including the national title game against Oklahoma. Reggie

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.799
<v Speaker 2>filed the defamation lawsuit against the NC double A in

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 2>August of this past year. Yeah, it feels like there's

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more to this, but all quiet on

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 2>the western frontier.

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:28.319
<v Speaker 7>Yes, Lincoln Riley said he's going to get a national

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:32.320
<v Speaker 7>title for USC football. It's under his watch. He's the coach. Yeah,

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:34.320
<v Speaker 7>he can somehow get him a national title. They'll overlook

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 7>that it's from oh four.

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it gets celebrate have a parade, right, yeah they do.

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<v Speaker 2>Heck yeah, all right, more phone calls coming up. Final

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 2>hour and once again we got phone calls out to

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people. I've heard from one source who

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 2>does believe that this is kind of a combo platter

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:56.840
<v Speaker 2>with the heisman in the NC DOUBLEA to try to

0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:00.040
<v Speaker 2>stave off the defamation lawsuit. But that's what I I

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 2>would want to know with Reggie, because he sounded pretty

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 2>confident that no, it's too late. He said, well, now

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 2>that you have the heisman, is it too late? Can

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 2>you just say, Okay, we got what we wanted. You

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 2>admitted you made a mistake, and I get to have

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:16.240
<v Speaker 2>my heisman.

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Tom, And he.

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 9>Said they got to give it back to me anyway.

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 9>He's really he would double down with you. In that interview,

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 9>saying this is going to go forward, regardless of giving

0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:23.239
<v Speaker 9>me it back or not.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, update our poll results have a new poll

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:29.359
<v Speaker 2>question for the final hour the day before the day

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<v Speaker 2>of the draft. Todd's here, Satan, Marvin, Paulie, yours truly

0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 2>in the back room, guys, Final hour this Wednesday, just ahead,