1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Are we okay with the yokches? You know what I mean? 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Because the hit from behind was kind of crazy. 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 2: You hit him first, right, Yeah, you turned around, you 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 2: hit you back. Is that a cheap shot? It's a 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: cheap shot, you my boy? Go ahead, I feel you good. 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 3: I know if I hit you, you're gonna hit me back. 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: And if you hit me and hit you back, right, 8 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: So if you hit him first and he hit you back, 9 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: that's a cheap shot. I'm walking away. So I'm not 10 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: even like in the mold of knowing you're about to 11 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: hit me, you know what I'm saying. So when you 12 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: like it's like a car crash, I'm just sitting regularly 13 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: in the car. Motherfucker, did you hit you in the back? 14 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: Like, oh shit, I'll just say that Terrified's brother. Wow, 15 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: that one dude looks so enormous. 16 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 3: The bigger they are, the harder they fall. Were big too, Yeah, 17 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: that's true. 18 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: We ain't. 19 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm six ten, two seventy. It ain't like 20 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 3: I'm a small guy. I'm bigger than them. We can 21 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: arrange this, Yeah, for sure, can get it. They use 22 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: their feet, we can get it on. Yeah. One of 23 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: them is a as a. 24 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: Oh, so he'd have to like he'd be. 25 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: One grabbing all that. 26 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: Yeaheah. 27 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 3: We can't do that. We can get it only boxing box. 28 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: This could be done. We are in Vegas. 29 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do a pig, big big, can pull me 30 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: to win. I do We're big, big big sing it 31 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 4: a kid. I do a big, big, big pull me 32 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 4: to win. I do am big, big, big sing it again. 33 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: I do a pig. 34 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 4: I do a big, big big sing it again. 35 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: I do a big. 36 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 5: What is that? What is good? 37 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: How you're living, how you feeling, how you're doing. We 38 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: got another episode coming live from Las Vegas, and I 39 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: need some energy here. That's what I'm talking about. Check 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: before I introduce our guests, what is the key to 41 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: being so good with an audience? Because I think you're 42 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: one of the best to ever do it. How do 43 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: you do it so well? 44 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: I mean you have to every now and then make 45 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: them laugh. I don't know. 46 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: I'm just being myself. Everyone knows I'm silly. Sometimes you 47 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: have to just say crazy jokes and just entertain them. 48 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: And we will take pictures with most of you when 49 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: we're done. 50 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: Okay, I love that. Yeah, except for one of you. 51 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: I got them. 52 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: Can I introduce our next guests? Yes, you may, Okay, 53 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: this one means a lot to me. From the Philly streets, 54 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: they became Kansas Elites, a pair of hard knows twins 55 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: that came into the league with receipts, same face, same fire, 56 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: same try us stare you talk slick to one? The 57 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: other's already there from the league to the mic. Now 58 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: they're telling their side. Two medium minds with nothing to 59 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: hide in the live Shah Hookah Lounge today. Give it 60 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: up for Mark Keith and Marcus Morris. Hey, hey, now. 61 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: I have a confession. I've never been able to tell 62 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 2: you to a part, So hold. 63 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: On before before you go into that, I just want 64 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: to say we have news and then you can get 65 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: into it, okay, because I found the perfect combination. It 66 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: is Morris and Morris. And when you think of names 67 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: like that, Shaq, who do you think of? Morgan and Morgan? 68 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: And so Morgan and Morgan has been a friend of 69 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: the Playmaker Network and the Big Pod. 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This is my first time seeing 77 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 3: you all together. 78 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: You've only seen them in separate place. 79 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so like of course when you when you found 80 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: out when they were in separateeens, you know who they are. 81 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: But I can't Markeith, Okay, okay, got it. 82 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: Got it better. I appreciate how having us on here. 83 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: So Charles Barker has said on T and T that 84 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: you guys beat up somebody for taking your mamas to Applebee's. 85 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 3: Wait what so apparently both of them got arrested. 86 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: Them can buy some cops because somebody took their moms 87 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: to Applebee's and they beat them up. Yeah, hell no, 88 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: that sh that's not a true story. Now all right, 89 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: So what happened? Because I know you'll beat somebody. 90 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: Up, Ah, ship, I wouldn't say, you know what. 91 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 5: That was? 92 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 3: Then this is now? Got it? They settled it in court. 93 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: He was not guilty, so you know we're gonna move 94 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: for it like that. 95 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: Well, it goes back to what you were saying about, 96 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: you know, protecting mom and loving mom. You're standing up 97 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: for mom. 98 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: You got to something like that. 99 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: I feel like with you guys, there was always the 100 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: stories about could one of you play in the playoffs 101 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: if the other one and like resting and stuff like that. 102 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: Do you guys still get those questions now about people 103 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: like now that you're on TV. 104 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: All the time. Yeah, I mean it was. It was 105 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: in Boston. I had a terrible injury and it was like, 106 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 3: there's no way he was going to play. And then 107 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 3: I came, you know, to do the little ship. You 108 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: did a couple of shots. Go from not being able 109 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: to walk to being able to play forty minutes in 110 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: the NBA game, and I played well, so they had 111 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 3: to switch spots. There's no way he played that well 112 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: after injury like that. And I'm not playing unless I'm 113 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: getting I'm not putting another jersey on. That's that's out. Check. 114 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: If you had an identical. 115 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 2: Twin, I do. You're sitting right there standing up me 116 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: that you know, yeah, bullet, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah bulleted. 117 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: But what would you do if if you had an 118 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: identical twin? Would you try stuff like that? 119 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 3: Yes? 120 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: And his name would be Jack Jack O'Neill, Yeah, Jack O'Neill. 121 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: Growing up, who was the toughest, who got the most whoppings? 122 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 2: And I know y'all have to compete with everybody in Philly, 123 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: But did y'all compete with each other a lot? 124 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: Uh? He got the most whoopings for sure. I was 125 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: I wasn't into that game. I left that after him. 126 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: We didn't we didn't compete. We always was like, you know, 127 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 3: we're gonna try to us together be better than everybody. Yeah, 128 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: it was like that. That's how we kind of got 129 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 3: to where we got to because we always leaned on 130 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 3: each other. So it was always in two versus one 131 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: ship And the only thing we really disagreed about was 132 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 3: football teams and sports and ship. Yeah. I like the Eagles. 133 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: He like the Cowboys. Yo, What the. 134 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: That's crazy? That's he's a Cowboys fan. Hold on, but 135 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: you're in Philadelphia. You guys are going to school. When 136 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: Donovan then went to the Super Bowl, how did you 137 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: become a Cowboys fan? 138 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: I was born in the nineties. Cowboys was he was 139 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: born in the night. 140 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: You were identical twins. 141 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: We not not when it comes to the Cowboys. By myself. Yes, 142 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: So when it comes to the Cowboys. 143 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: Is this like twins? I want my own things, so 144 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to root for somebody else. 145 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: It was. It was one of those situations just with sports, because. 146 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: You know, Cowboys play the Eagles in week. 147 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: One, first week we will be there. 148 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: Man, there's a lot of losers in this room, right 149 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: Oh wee hundred. Should we just get the Draft Kings 150 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, let's just do the DraftKings. Uh So 151 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: according to our friends of DraftKings, and again use the 152 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: promo code big Pod and you can bet and get 153 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: a lot of money. 154 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 155 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: The Eagles are one of the favorites for the Super Bowl. 156 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: They are at about six to one. The Cowboys are 157 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: not in the top ten, They're not anywhere. Who do 158 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: you have as your Super Bowl winner? 159 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: Let's just do thats right now? 160 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: Want he Goes? Eagles, Bills, Ravens, Chiefs, Lions, Commanders, Niners, Packers. 161 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: Since the Cowboys not there, I'm gonna go Chiefs. 162 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: Using the Chiefs make like a return to prominence. That's 163 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: eight to one for the Chiefs right now? 164 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: Like that? 165 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: Would you bet on the Cowboys to win it all? 166 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 3: Like? 167 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: Are you that kind of a fact every year. 168 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: You know, Cowboys fans fucking delusion. They think they're gonna 169 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: win every year. It don't matter who they put out there. 170 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: You know what, I've always never thought there are so 171 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: many Cowboys fans? Are there anybody that you're upset that 172 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: is a Cowboys fan? Like when you find out that 173 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: someone's a Cowboys fan, you're like that guy, Uh, he 174 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: hates the Cowboys. You don't like Steven A. 175 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 3: You don't like when he talk about the Cowboys when 176 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 3: we team God, what's going on? Talk about the Cowboys 177 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: in front of me? 178 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: I know you've messed with stephen A with your cowboy 179 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: guy checks Johnson. 180 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: Listen. 181 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: The reason why I'm a Cowboys fans is when I 182 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: was young, I used to tell people too Tall Jones 183 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 2: was my father. That's why I like the Cowboys. 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My perspective is with social media, 270 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: I only really think we have big market versus little 271 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 2: market teams because I told the guy in the back, 272 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: I said, okay, big market, but would you rather have 273 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: the best player in the world on your team, which 274 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: is shake Gilga's eug Zeller. So again my question is 275 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: small market big market? You think that's slowly e racing. 276 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 3: I think so because of the way the CBA is right, 277 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 3: it don't even matter if it's a small market, big market. 278 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 3: The way they the way they have this this shit 279 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: worked out is like you got a homegrown every player 280 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: that you get, you can't trade and have and have 281 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: a big three that you go and go out and 282 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: get doing free agency. So that's going that's definitely gonna 283 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: help the game, but it is inevitable now like any 284 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: team could be a good team now and shade just 285 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: on that to eighty all of them dudes. 286 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: So I was I was going to ask that the 287 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: Devin Booker one stuck out to me because it was 288 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: two years, one hundred and the math was he's making 289 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty thousand dollars a game a game shit, 290 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: And I know, Shaq, you've been away long enough for 291 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: the numbers have gotten crazy even in the time that 292 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: you guys have been a they signed the new contract. 293 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: Is it staggering like to us, it's staggering to you guys. 294 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: Is it still staggering to you to see these numbers 295 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: and where it's gotten to? 296 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: Well, kudos to the guys that are good. 297 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: Don oh bro, we want everyone hey, that's in. 298 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: Fact, I want them paid I don't want to make 299 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: a fucking seventy when I was making twenty. Fuck that. 300 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: But those guys, I would I wish they did. They 301 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: can disperse it out a little bit better than what 302 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: that is, like, right, because you'll see teams where okay, 303 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: see you're gonna have three players making yep, fifty to 304 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty, but not all three of those players. 305 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: I mean, there's more players on the team that's given 306 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: stuff to help the win. 307 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: Right. You're gonna see that, and you're gonna see the 308 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 3: big drop off of eight seven three, you know what 309 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: I mean. So and that aspect I thought, I think 310 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: it should be more mixed. But you know, guys get 311 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: the money. You they ain't a seat right now, you know, 312 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: you just gotta gotta pay your way. 313 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, like Marcus, like the upper tier guys are always 314 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: gonna get paid. But it does seem with the luxury 315 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: tax and the aprons, the middle glass is no longer then, 316 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: because if you're going to have some big name guys, 317 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: the rest of your roster needs to be low end contracts. 318 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: And when someone gets to that next level, they don't 319 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: there's no middle ground. 320 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: But what if you're not an upper tier guy and 321 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 3: you get baid, which that's happening. 322 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: We like which kind of person. 323 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 3: Gobert is the upper tier guy? Just that I'm diossessed. 324 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: He yes, and then I have to be this guy 325 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: defensive player of the year all that. Hold up? But 326 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, you know this, You know there are situations. 327 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: Team is back in the corner and they don't have 328 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: a star, but they have this. 329 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 3: I would have got rid of that them. Fuck them, 330 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 3: you're not that good. I ain't gonna lie. You can 331 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: play defense. Yeah, they ain't got no big. So anytime 332 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: you get against a good big what you what you say? 333 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: What you call it? 334 00:16:54,720 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: Barbecue chicken alert, Barbecue chicken French chicken alert. But congratulations 335 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: you got the money. But he's not a. 336 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: Top tier guy, right, No, totally. If we're talking caer questions, 337 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: are we okay with the Yokches? Where do we stand 338 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: with the Morris twins and the Jokic brothers. Where has 339 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: there been any developments? 340 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 3: That shit is? Social media never got anywhere. 341 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: It never went anywhere. Well one, we were worried about 342 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: the health, you know what I mean, because the hit 343 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: from behind was kind of crazy. 344 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 3: I got a question. I just was telling somebody about this, 345 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 3: about like how they made that, how they portrayed that, 346 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: like it was like something that he has. 347 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: Tell it from your perspective. 348 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: Well, I got a question because me and my boy 349 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: Chicago had an argument about this. You hit him first, right, yeah, 350 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 2: you turned around, you hit you back. Is that a 351 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: cheap shot? 352 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 3: It's a cheap shot I did a basketball player. If 353 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 3: you see the angle, I put my hand up, like 354 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 3: I let it known. I'm coming towards you. You're right, 355 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 3: but you just hit him. Yeah, I followed you because 356 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: it's like a hard following the game like no, I know, 357 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 3: but I'm you my boy, Yeah, go ahead. 358 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 2: I feel I know if I hit you, you're gonna hit 359 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: me back. And if you hit me and hit you back, right, 360 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 2: So if you hit him first and hit you back, 361 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 2: that's a cheap shot and hit me from behind. I 362 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: think it's a cheap shot. Carry my back. I would 363 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: have add if you, if you asked me, I would 364 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: have never ran it. Like I'm I'm physically walking. I'm 365 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 2: walking away, so I'm not even like in the mold 366 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 2: of knowing you're about to hit me. 367 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So when you like it's 368 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 3: like a car crash. I'm just sitting regularly in the car. 369 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: Motherfucker did hit you in the back, like, oh, ship right? Like, 370 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 3: So my thing was like I showed him I was 371 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: gonna do it. I don't take nothing back from it, 372 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 3: Like I gave it out a ton of times. So 373 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 3: when you get hit, it ain't like I feel sorry 374 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 3: for myself. I fucking feel sorry for myself. Like which 375 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: one roll with it? Which one? You hit the dude 376 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 3: in the able the basketball? I did? That's right, talking 377 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: about that before we go down there. He's a good dude. 378 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: Let me just put down on the table because I 379 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: I guess, oh, man, man, he's a good dude. Man 380 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 3: shut out there first because check but three weeks in 381 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 3: the row, we're still talking about that ship. 382 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: Man and mocked him on the head. Yeah, that's just hilarious. 383 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 3: Okay, why hey, let me just say this, because I 384 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: didn't have the conversation with this motherfucker over like three 385 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 3: or four times, and I apologized. So I told him 386 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 3: I wasn't apologizing no more. What happened was that, you know, 387 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 3: when you in the league, you kind of like try 388 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: to be a tough guy, right, trying to stick on 389 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 3: the team, so like you want to stand out a 390 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 3: little bit, so like you know, they we didn't force 391 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 3: this on other teams, So I feel like he tried 392 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 3: to take it upon himself to like go at it 393 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: and force it to make him seem a certain way. 394 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 3: And god, you know what I mean. I took it 395 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 3: like disrespect because I actually knew him, so we were like, cool, oh, okay, 396 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: he did some like wow ship, and honestly, I didn't 397 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: know what the fuck to do. Like I was like, ah, 398 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: and he's all the money, like and I just did it. 399 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, the craziest part though, this is the craziest part. 400 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 3: I've done a lot of ship in the league, like 401 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 3: a lot of shit. I've been fine a ton of times. 402 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 3: When I did that ship, I went into the locker 403 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 3: room and the NBA office called me laughing, really laughing, 404 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 3: like they didn't find me. They adn't speak about it anything. 405 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 3: I'm like, hold on, is this is because I'm in 406 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 3: New York, Like you know what I'm saying. So like 407 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 3: the media kind of took it like a bad boy, right, 408 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 3: And I'm like, nah, it don't matter who the fuck 409 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 3: that was, Like I was gonna do the same ship. 410 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: That's so funny, you know, hold on the Yogis Brothers. 411 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: Let me just wrap this up. You were saying they 412 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: ran with it, because it did, because the brothers started 413 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: a Twitter account and they're tweeting at you. 414 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 3: Listen, you think that was a real thing. I got 415 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: you know, I'm from Jersey. They don't make soft dudes 416 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 3: out of Pheeling. 417 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: Of course, not Philly and Serbia. It's like, that's crazy. 418 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: I didn't get it on it, No, but they were 419 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: trying to portray it like the Yogurt Brothers punk them. 420 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: That's how everybody was portraying. Okay, that's how everybody was 421 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: portraying that. 422 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 3: That's that's that social media, social media. We don't do 423 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: the social media ship exactly. We bro life in front 424 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 3: of your face with it. 425 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: I'll just say that terrified. 426 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 3: I brother, Wow, Philly. 427 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: Look that one dude looks so enormous. He's like the 428 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: mohawk and ship. 429 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 3: The bigger they are, the harder they fall. We're big too, Yeah, 430 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: that's true. 431 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: We ain't. 432 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm six ten, two seventy. It ain't like 433 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 3: I'm a small guy. I'm bigger than them. So we 434 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 3: can arrange this. Yeah, for sure, you can get it. 435 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: They really use their feet. We can get it on 436 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: as long as you can't leave. Leave. 437 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: So one of them no kicking. One of them is 438 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: as a mm A fighter. 439 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: Oh so he'd have to like he'd be one. 440 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: Grabbing all that. Yeah, we can't do that. We can 441 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 2: get it on. 442 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: So only boxing, only boxing, it could be done. We 443 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: are in Vegas. 444 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: Damn, I'm going with the Philly boys. 445 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: No. I wasn't asking who you're I'm just saying you 446 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: should you own everything. I feel like you could set 447 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: this up. 448 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: I'm not setting that up. You're like, oh thirty five, 449 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: Oh okay, y'all still young man. 450 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: So I set it out so we would not like 451 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 3: I know who. We just don't talk about it. I 452 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 3: know who. 453 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 2: Y'all beat motherfuckers up for taking your mama. 454 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: Uh so if we're gonna do that, because I've never 455 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: thought about, like, Shaq, did you have an enforcer on 456 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: your teams or were you the enforcer? 457 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: I was the enforcer, but I had a fowler, a fowler. Yeah, 458 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 2: Rick Fox was my fowler. 459 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: So he would do like the hard foul Yeah, like 460 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: I'm telling him, like, hey, let's do fucking scoring too 461 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: many points, touch him up and then if they had 462 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: a problem with Rick, you'd step in. 463 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 3: You don't remember this fight with Rick Fox from Doug 464 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 3: Christy here it. 465 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: Is, oh man, Yeah, Doug Christy gave on right to 466 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: the chins uppercut. So I hear so many stories about 467 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: James Jones, you know, and his ability. Who would you 468 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: guys put on your mount rushmore of active NBA enforcers 469 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: or active NBA time like the actual tough guys in 470 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: the NBA? 471 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 3: Do we include ourselves? Are you active? I played last year? 472 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: Then yes, then you can be on the list. I'm 473 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: just saying, yeah, you could be. 474 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 3: I would say brod in place. So I'm not gonna 475 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna that put me on that list. 476 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: All right? So two of the four are you? 477 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 3: James Johnson for sure? 478 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: James Johnson. 479 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: That list short of ship it is and. 480 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: I would say probably shocking your day. There was one 481 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: on every day. 482 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 3: They had it in the day. It was something that 483 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, I think Grace Lucas 484 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: ain't like us, Hopeully. 485 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: Is Draymond a tough guy? 486 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I forgot about Dre. You put him on 487 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: that list? He's scared a lot of motherfuckers got his 488 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 3: ship on. He punched somebody in the face. 489 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: We see that. 490 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 3: They don't matter how that goes. You've seen him punch 491 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 3: somebody in your face, like, so you know he'll do something. 492 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: When when you are that role on your team, do 493 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: you see your star have more freedom? Like, do you 494 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: see the benefits. 495 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 3: Of especially if you're playing, if you're out there in 496 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 3: the fortune you're playing for a fact, tell him, like, 497 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 3: none of that shit gonna happen when I'm on the court. 498 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 3: But that's why they keep you around. And that's why 499 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: you know, even the craziest part, We're really not gonna 500 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 3: do nothing, you know, it's just it's just a tactic. 501 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: Like they think you crazy already, so it's like you 502 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 3: might flinch or something like that, and they think you're 503 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 3: gonna do something you never looked at outside of me 504 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 3: hitting this dude and the with the ball. Outside of 505 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 3: that I have, we haven't never done anything with the court. 506 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: I just think it's cool that the star then can 507 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: go and relax. 508 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: That's the role, Like that's at the guys that buy 509 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: into it, like like that's why we're there. 510 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: We have those guys, would you say that. 511 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: Ship to Kobe Shack what that kind of stuff, Like, 512 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: what did you think that your presence let go be 513 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: be more free? 514 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 2: Of course everybody knows that I used to have to 515 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: I used to have to stick up for all the 516 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 2: time when you guys first growing up together, when you 517 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 2: guys first got into the NBA and they had to 518 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: be separated. What were the adjustments you had to make? Uh, 519 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: we was cool. 520 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: Actually it was the lock all year, so that's very 521 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: six months we was. We was actually together living in 522 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: La So by the time that time came, we was like, man, 523 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: you go to your team, I go to my team. 524 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 3: Were good, I see you in four months, five months, Okay, 525 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: so you'll stay together in a in the off season. 526 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah earlier early on. Now obviously we got families 527 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 3: and like, but it was it was tough adjustment to 528 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: not like be on the same team, but also with 529 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,719 Speaker 3: vets and ship. Like when we came in it was 530 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 3: I didn't have any bets, so it wasn't like my 531 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 3: adjustment was a little bit different than that. Yeah, I 532 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: was in Houston, there wasn't really no vets, so I 533 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 3: didn't really like the adjustment was a little bit harder 534 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: for me. One of y'all hit me about technology, which 535 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: one was that was me? You want to talk about it? 536 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: Uh? 537 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 3: Hit me with uh, you don't want to talk about it. No, 538 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: I want to talk about it now. I'm with you. 539 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: I do want to talk about and I want to 540 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 3: talk about two things actually, matter of fact, please, I 541 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 3: want to talk about Rebot. You know, I know you 542 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 3: don't owner Rebo. Congratulations on that, man bro Ben like 543 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 3: following that for a while. Hey, we we we we 544 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 3: actually we can what's up with apparel deal? You said 545 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: you can push the buttons. You could say yes or 546 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 3: no right now? So I'm shooting my shot. We fuck 547 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: with Rebot? Ay? I you know, AI, you know what 548 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I almost twitched out, but these motherfuckers was 549 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: rushing because we did the O G show. 550 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 2: You got my number one monent say that. I appreciate that. No, 551 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: but hit me with some intact some shock GP T ship. 552 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 2: He hit me with some Mark Zuckerberg type technology. It's 553 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: basically is a is a compensation, you know, AI. So 554 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: what we did was so just picture shack, you know, 555 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 2: and you're being able to h hold a full conversation 556 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: with Shack, like, Shack is your GPT, and you ask 557 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: him whatever you want, and it's him. It's actually shocked. 558 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: So when we do ask doctor O'Neill, it would actually. 559 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: Be anything you wanted to be language. So he hit 560 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 2: me up. Was spoken before, so he hit me up. 561 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 2: Of course I'm gonna hit him back out of respect. 562 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: So when he first told told me about it, I 563 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: was like, but then, but then he said, Shack, read 564 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: this paragraph. I just read one little paragraph, and then 565 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: we had another zoom leting and I asked myself a question, 566 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: and I started talking back to myself and I said, oh, 567 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 2: this ship is next level. 568 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's great. So like he can be anybody. 569 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 3: He can be a child, especially, he can be a doctor. 570 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 3: He can be whatever you want. Shock, he could be 571 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: it could be our cheat GPT, anything else g GPT. 572 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: We have a uh a GPT that can put get 573 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: you out of any situation if you get caught cheating. 574 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 2: I ain't saying all that. If you don't believe me, 575 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 2: ask me a question. I hope you get out of 576 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 2: it right now. I'm not saying I'm the master of that. 577 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 3: But you know. 578 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: You're in a hotel room, the phone rings. 579 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 3: It's room service. I do got a question for you, fella, Like, 580 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: you know, playing in the league for a long time, 581 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: you know, me and my brother had being able to 582 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 3: like transition into so much shit, right, Like what level 583 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 3: of like sacrifice. I know, obviously you know, playing ball 584 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 3: you have to sacrifice something. Rather it's your family, your 585 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 3: free time, you know what I mean, being professional players, 586 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: But like being a businessman at that stature, Like how 587 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: like how do you even fathom being able to attend 588 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: all that shit and be able to check all the 589 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 3: emails and be able to like actually follow through to 590 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: get these companies to be as good as they are. 591 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: So being being that we understand basketball, that's all we know. 592 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: I put everything into basketball terms. So I have a 593 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 2: starting five, like my man right there in Chicago and 594 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: my best friend for Blue Chips. He handles all my 595 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: business in Vegas. I got another guy that handles my 596 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: business in Atlanta, another guy to handle my business in Florida. 597 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: So it's called delegation. Instead of trying to do I 598 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: have the ability to do everything myself, but instead of 599 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: trying to do everything myself, I delegate it because when 600 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: it becomes difficult. I break it down to the simplest form. 601 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: I ain't got time to memorize all the shit I 602 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 2: gotta do. But everybody goes that piece. And then the 603 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: rule of my house is, I'm not waking up before 604 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: fucking twelve o'clock. I don't fucking call me, you don't 605 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: text me, not fucking doing nothing, I don't go fuck 606 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: what it is. So at twelve o'clock when I get up, 607 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: I go to my calendar and it says, hey, three o'clock, 608 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: two forty five, you got the beat Box interview. Three o'clock, 609 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 2: we're doing the podcast Tyson the Morris Twin's gonna be here. 610 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: Five o'clock. I got hot date with a seventy five 611 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: year older. That's a joke, no teeth, So you know, 612 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 2: to answer your question, I delegate a lot out to 613 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: a lot of people, Like when you hit me with 614 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: the thing, instead of me being on it, I had 615 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: your people talking about people and hopefully nowhere you know, 616 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: definitely close on getting something. But I've always operated out 617 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: of fear. My father used to always come in and say, 618 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: what if you hurt your knee? What if you do this? 619 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: And he used to show me all the horror stories. Hey, 620 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: this guy had two million, he lost it. This guy 621 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: had fifty million, he lost it. 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This is a paid advertisement. 697 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: What do you guys think of TV's Were there people 698 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: on TV that you didn't like when you were playing that? 699 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 1: Now do you see it differently? 700 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 3: Or is it the same Stephen like everybody else outside 701 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 3: of that man, great guy man, unbelieving. 702 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 2: Everyone is it because you know, you feel he don't 703 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 2: have the G fourteen classification. 704 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 3: I think I think he get paid to do that. 705 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 3: That's what he told us, Like, I don't get paid 706 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 3: to like be reasonable. Yeah, I get paid to talk 707 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 3: about y'all. That's what they paid me. So that's what 708 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 3: I do. Like you know what I mean, rightfully? So 709 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 3: said job. It's like, how y'all go and y'all play 710 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 3: basketball as a job. Y'all don't like it, but that's 711 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 3: just what I get paid. He literally does that. Well, 712 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,959 Speaker 3: like when TV come on, he's switching to a whole 713 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 3: different character person and then when it goes off, it's 714 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 3: like same as when you get on the court, you 715 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 3: mean and ship you think I'm crazy on the court. 716 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,959 Speaker 1: And I'm not really like to get off the court 717 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: hanging out. 718 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't hate you. I tell my fuckers straight 719 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 3: to their face, I hate you in the court and 720 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 3: I get off the court. Man. I was just saying that, man, 721 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 3: how your kids. 722 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: Doing Shack is not that way at all. Shack is 723 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: the opposite. So Shack he will hate you everywhere. 724 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 3: Hate you everywhere like I hate Rudy Gobert. Why why 725 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 3: you hate? 726 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 2: Why don't you like Rudy two fifty? You don't deserve 727 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 2: your I'm just a lot of them. I don't care, 728 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 2: I don't. 729 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 3: No. 730 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Shaq believes there's all things. Shaq 731 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 1: doesn't like when non great people get great things. 732 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 2: Know, that's not as the the president of the Big 733 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: Man Lions Be. You're making big money, play like a 734 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 2: fucking big man. 735 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 3: That's it. 736 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 2: Play like a big man, Throw some bowls, knock some 737 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 2: people out. Don't be letting little white dudes from Denver 738 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 2: dunk on you and talk ship to you. Then you 739 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 2: got to grab him by the neck in the last second. 740 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 2: Come on, bro, that's it. If you're gonna get paid 741 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: big money, fucking play be. 742 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: I just want Shack to still be on TV when 743 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: Rudy gets into the Hall of Fame, because it's gonna all. 744 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: They're gonna ask him to bring him in, just like 745 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 3: bring that's what bring us up. 746 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: We're doing. 747 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 2: If Rudy Gobert gets into the Hall of Fame, go 748 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 2: Beart gets to the Hall of Fame. I'll wear this 749 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 2: dressed to the motherfucking ceremony. 750 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 3: Guy. They might get in that. 751 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: He is, he's a four time defensive Stop it, stop it. 752 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: But that's when that year is when you should launch 753 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: the bad motherfucker Hall of Fame where you create your 754 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: own hall of fame for only certain people. 755 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 2: Listen, I'm just saying, as a as a big man, 756 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 2: if you're gonna get big money, play big, what's. 757 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 3: The carteria for the Hall of Fame? Like I feel 758 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 3: like I feel like it's changes, Like obviously you know 759 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 3: when we watch it, it's it just changes so much 760 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 3: so it's like I can't put up. 761 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: So this is the first thing. Remember it is the 762 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: Basketball Hall of Fame, not the NBA Hall of Fame. 763 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: So if you played overseas, all of that ship matters, 764 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: your college basketball career matters too. And then don't forget this. 765 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: Once somebody goes in, it sets a precedent. So if 766 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,720 Speaker 1: somebody goes in that doesn't have a ton of accomplishments, 767 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: it lowers the bar for everybody else that was brought 768 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: to you by. 769 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 3: If he gets in, take me out. 770 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: That right there is the graphic that you're getting on playmaker. 771 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: If he gets in, takeing. 772 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 2: Me going in and just rip my jersey though, so 773 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 2: we always hear about the goat debate. We all play, 774 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: and I know we're friends with some of these people. 775 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 2: My take on this doesn't matter who you pick. I 776 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 2: want to hear the right names. So somehow it's just 777 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 2: Lebron and Jordan. But my argument is, shouldn't Kobe be 778 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 2: in that conversation without a question or a question without question? 779 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 2: Like me, I picked Mike play with Kobe paid with Lebron. 780 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 2: Both extraordinary great, but Mike was that guy. To me, 781 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 2: Mike is a great at all time. But I just 782 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 2: hear people go straight from Mike to Lebron and know Kobe. 783 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: What's your take on that? 784 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 3: I think Magic should be in there somewhere too, Like 785 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 3: I think it's like I think magic if you know 786 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 3: what happened didn't happen. I think he had a chance 787 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,720 Speaker 3: to be one of the greatest. And what about Steph 788 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 3: Curry's magic or the greatest? Listen, listen, it's eight bigger people. 789 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 3: Know where everybody's gonna have their opinion, But I would 790 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 3: like to hear the proper criteria whoever you pick. So 791 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 3: do you think Steph Curry should be there? I do 792 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 3: I think. I think he's one of the greatest played 793 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 3: the game. He changed the game. He was a part 794 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 3: of changing the game. 795 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: Kareem's in the conversation without a will is Wilt in 796 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: the conversation, Oh interesting. 797 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 2: Why. 798 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 3: Ring? 799 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: So rings are very important in this conversation. 800 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 3: I don't think so. You don't think so. I mean 801 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 3: because it's like, come on, like a lot of players, 802 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 3: you know, no, not saying that he said, but just 803 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 3: winning anyway, it's hard to do. So for somebody to 804 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 3: win to you can't. I don't think it's just like, yeah, 805 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 3: he ain't win enough. Like won too, That's that's enough. 806 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 3: Some people can't win at all. You got you got 807 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 3: a lot of grace that haven't won, and they and 808 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 3: their career is downplayed because they didn't win. But they 809 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 3: were great basketball players, you know what I'm saying. So 810 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 3: the criteria, Yeah, but we're talking but we're talking the 811 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 3: greatest of all time? 812 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: Yeah? 813 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, So is that like a top five lest or 814 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 3: is that just like the great mine is. 815 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: Mike Lebron and Kobe Oh so Steph's not in your conversation. 816 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 2: No, well, we're talking about the three greatest of all time. 817 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 2: Let's just put the number on it. No, No, he's 818 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 2: not anybody's conversation. I'm saying, but should he be at it? 819 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 3: Right? 820 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: But hold on, you always ask that question. But now 821 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 1: you're saying he's not in yours. 822 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,439 Speaker 2: I'm saying, should he be at it? I've already made 823 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 2: mine Michael Jordan's grades of all time? 824 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? Period you that that's my statement. 825 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 1: Does Bill Russell get in this conversation? 826 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 3: He should? All right? 827 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: Because also you think about Will and you think about 828 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,720 Speaker 1: like Jerry West. They were on the non Celtics teams 829 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: where those guys didn't switch teams ever. They had like 830 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: ten guys that are in the Hall of Fame, and 831 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: it's like one dude versus all of them, and then 832 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: we're judging them on not beating them, But then we're 833 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: also giving Bill Russell credit for eleven. Like it's there's 834 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: a lot of arguments that argue against themselves. But Will 835 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: also was averaging fifty points per game for a season. 836 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 3: That's a lot, and those are our three. I think 837 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 3: Mike cole Brian, you figure it out. Mike is the 838 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 3: greatest of all time. Cod cannot be the closest to 839 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 3: Mike and not be top three greatest of all times. 840 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 3: That doesn't even sound right. T Mac made a statement 841 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 3: the other day, and I'm gonna answer you guys answer. 842 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 3: He said, if you switch him and Kobe out as 843 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 3: far as playing with me, y'all come as the same. 844 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 3: You agree or disagree? Fuck? No, you know you know 845 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 3: you're not just saying you switching out with Kobe and 846 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 3: you're gonna be what Kobe was. That's not Yeah, I 847 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 3: don't agree with then away from nothing, away from t Mac, 848 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 3: great play, oh you not Kobe? Yeah, and that mentality too, 849 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 3: I might have to disagree. I don't know, though, you know, 850 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 3: you know what my difference mine is, though big Fella 851 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 3: is the mentality, like it was, like that killer mentality. 852 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 3: Everybody didn't have that. Like he was a good he 853 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 3: was a great player, don't get me wrong, but it 854 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 3: was times that Mike and cole be I felt like 855 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 3: that Mike gave Kobe something that nobody else would be 856 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 3: able to be able to even imitate and be able 857 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 3: to like have that mentality a lot of players never 858 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 3: no other players had it. 859 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: Really I agree, just saying, but I'm saying I didn't 860 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 2: look at it like that. That's why I like everybody's opinion. 861 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 2: You don't think I could have won three with T Mac? 862 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 2: I think I could have. Yeah, for sure Mac was 863 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 2: a bad boy. But after away that though, T Mac 864 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 2: was a bad time getting you get you put any 865 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 2: of the about it outside of T Mac. You can 866 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 2: say a lot of them motheruck put him next to 867 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:36,959 Speaker 2: you at that time. 868 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 3: Good point. What about Vince Me and Vince Chip, I 869 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 3: feel like in a row, I feel like like with 870 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 3: down play Vince, they just think he had dunker. 871 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 2: Vince was one of the most time he was. I 872 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 2: believe the same thing. Actually when he said that a 873 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 2: lot of people hit me. But T Mac was a 874 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 2: bad boy. 875 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,399 Speaker 3: For sure he was. And I feel like, like even 876 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 3: not saying it, it's just like Kobe just watching playing 877 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 3: the league. It was a fan and like everybody watched 878 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 3: T Max. Everybody knew how good T Mac was. But 879 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 3: if you asking a question about him or Kobe Bryant, 880 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 3: I don't fuck with team it was on. Obviously everybody's 881 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,919 Speaker 3: path different, but like what Kobe has, there was only 882 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 3: one other player that's the greatest player in the world 883 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 3: has like they the only two that has that. 884 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: I just realized I'm a few years older than you, guys. 885 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,839 Speaker 1: I'm from Bucks County and so I grew up hearing 886 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: about Kobe at Lower Marrio. And then I also remember 887 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 1: this guy in Kobe coming to Philadelphia in two thousand 888 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,320 Speaker 1: and one booing Destiny's Child because I think Beyonce was 889 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: wearing a Lakers jersey, like what being from Philly and 890 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,800 Speaker 1: then Kobe playing in Philly. How much were you, like 891 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,720 Speaker 1: big fans of him when you guys were coming. 892 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 3: Up, extremely big fans, but we was more AI guys, 893 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, the best, nobody can take Bubba like Philadelphia. 894 00:43:54,520 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: TGI Fridays, no touching him, man, shack on you man, 895 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: like that series when when AI dropped that in game one, 896 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 1: freaking it really felt like we won. 897 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 3: And Eric one game we'll be freaking Yeah. 898 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: But I know that game still pisses you off. 899 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 2: It does because I wouldn't go because four, yeah, I 900 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,879 Speaker 2: wanted to go sixteen and oh Moses Malone man. 901 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: And then and then also I still can't believe you're 902 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan like that. 903 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 3: I wake up every day Cowboys fancy die Hard. 904 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 1: I get it, all right. So one more time for 905 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 1: Lunazul means blue moon and they are going to the moon. 906 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 1: Young a player in the league that is up and 907 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: coming that you think has a chance, obviously not to 908 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: match Lebron and Kobe, but somebody that could be perennial 909 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 1: All Star that isn't there right now. 910 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go I'm gonna gook unconventional. I'm gonna say. 911 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say bank Caro. 912 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: Ballo ban Cao just signed a huge deal with Orlando. 913 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: Me to Orlando's got a squad. 914 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 3: Carmelo Anthony type of physicality. You know what I'm saying 915 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 3: that the game don't have no more. You don't have 916 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 3: those big forces like that in the game that could 917 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 3: do a lot. But obviously you got Anthony Ewson. But 918 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 3: my my favorite, I think I think Ben Carroll is 919 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 3: like one of those guys that's gonna be something different. 920 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 3: Who you got I'm trying to think, man's you know, 921 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 3: I'll go away. You think I said on a bench 922 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 3: of line and seeing a lot of bum basketball player, 923 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 3: I got to think through these young motherfuckers, I don't 924 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 3: really know. 925 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Cooper Flack and I'm gonna tell you why, 926 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 2: because they're fucking laying it out for him, like I've 927 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 2: never seen a scenario so fucking perfect for somebody, Like, 928 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 2: it's just. 929 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 1: This mean that you've never heard of a rookie with 930 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: the commissioner saying, where do you want to go? Warm 931 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,240 Speaker 1: weather or cold weather? A team, a team, we'll draft 932 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,280 Speaker 1: Penny hard away. 933 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 2: A team, a team with a mega star they get 934 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 2: rid of them, is down all of a sudden, they 935 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 2: get the first pick. So now you're bringing in another 936 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 2: potential megastar and he got So. 937 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: I know you like conspiracy series. What is the percentage 938 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: chance that the conspiracy theory is true that the league 939 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: did it, that they gave the Mavericks percentage. I wouldn't 940 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,280 Speaker 1: call it conspiracy, he says, one hundred. 941 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 3: I call it business. Yeah, the business of basketball. 942 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: So what percentage this. 943 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 2: Business like in this thing abouts it's called business out 944 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 2: there as conspiracy, but his business. So answer your question upcoming, guy, Like, 945 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 2: I've never seen a Cinderella story is just fucking so 946 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 2: laid out for guys. Lebron felt like he was gonna 947 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 2: be great or he's gonna be terrible, and I can't 948 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 2: wait to see him. He'll have more time than the 949 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:42,800 Speaker 2: average basketball. 950 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, good. 951 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty years of tequila making tradition is 952 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 2: in the face Lunazu Tequila. It's a celebration that comes 953 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 2: full circle from the fields of Jalisco to your glass experience, 954 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 2: to your authentic tastes of one hundred percent Blueever got 955 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 2: the tequila that's crafted with pride for what's in time. 956 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 2: It made for moments that shine true. Those who know 957 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 2: look to Luna Luna Tequila, Bardstown, Kentucky for alcohol by volume. 958 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 2: Think wisely, drink wisely, Luna. 959 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: Oh the other thing I want to bring up, remember 960 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 1: when Lebron came to the Palaestra Do you remember that 961 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,760 Speaker 1: and played Maurice Rice from the Strawberry. 962 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 3: Mansion and dropped, crossed. 963 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 1: And crossed them up. So there was this guy in 964 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,280 Speaker 1: Philly that broke Wilt Chamberlain's high school scoring records. Lebron 965 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 1: was in high school, came to Philly. I went to 966 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 1: that game and he crossed. 967 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 3: The lost forts that It's like the AI crossed when 968 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 3: he did, when he crossed the mike. 969 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, lost the game, but he hit that shot. Oh 970 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 1: my god, God, these are great Philly stories. I love 971 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:57,479 Speaker 1: this ship. Fuck the cowboys, fucking loosers. What advice would 972 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,879 Speaker 1: you give them as they enter their world into the TV. 973 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 2: I wouldn't give them any advice. I've been watching their 974 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 2: whole career. Their fine gentlemen and family men. You know 975 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 2: they know well, he knows well. They both got it 976 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 2: towards to know. If you ever need it for me, 977 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 2: just call me. But you know I've been watching guys. 978 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 2: You guys played the right way, play respectful. I always 979 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 2: enjoyed how you guys played the passion. I know where 980 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 2: you guys are from, so I know it's nothing soft 981 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 2: about you guys, and I just always appreciate how you 982 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 2: guys play. So I don't really give advice. Everybody is different. 983 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 2: But if you ever need anything, you can call me. 984 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 2: Like you you give me some bikes. Like all the 985 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 2: business I do and think about doing, I would have 986 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 2: never thought about doing that. So hopefully we can get 987 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 2: something done because I would love to help all that 988 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 2: shit done. 989 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 3: All you got to do? All right, I'm on it. 990 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: And then the podcast No Fouls Given? When's that starting up? 991 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 3: October first? What can we expect raw opinions? A lot 992 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,439 Speaker 3: of guests that you know, just finished playing the game. 993 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be like a universal just like 994 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 3: everybody that understands the game and giving out like real 995 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 3: opinions and not like just not holding back and speaking 996 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 3: speaking their mind on the game. Players. More day to 997 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 3: day stuff also too, you know, would be basically we're 998 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 3: shocking them be doing Yeah, remember that we're trying to 999 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 3: be on TV for thirty years after we finished. We're 1000 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 3: not fucking hard. That is like, I know that ship 1001 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 3: has to be hard because we did that. I did 1002 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 3: that ship for a weekend and I don't know how 1003 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 3: to fuck you get up there. 1004 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: Yes, schedule is a little bit different than the schedule, Relax. 1005 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't mean your schedule. I meant that daytime, like afternoons, 1006 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: like four straight hours of arguing and then hey, we 1007 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 1: need you to do a hit on the Sports Center, 1008 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: and then NBA t Today is coming up, and then 1009 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,399 Speaker 1: you're on the overnights on Deport Taste and they're like, oh, 1010 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: it's Marcus Morris's Phoenix. 1011 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 3: No. 1012 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 1: But in all honesty, this is I've never experienced you 1013 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: guys like this, and I can see the potential. I 1014 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,760 Speaker 1: think we all kind of saw that today and anytime 1015 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 1: we can get more Philly motherfuckers on TV, better it 1016 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: could be give it up for the Morris Twins. Everybody, Okay, 1017 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: we have one final special guest, and the Morris Twins 1018 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 1: have stuck around because I'm very excited for their podcast. 1019 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,919 Speaker 1: They've already blown me away. Today I'll ask you, guys, 1020 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,320 Speaker 1: can I do the official introduction for our guest? And 1021 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 1: I know you have a lot of things to say 1022 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,800 Speaker 1: to him. He's the man behind the ratings, the face 1023 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: of the flame. You make one Morong move, you're a 1024 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: sixty two in the game. You love him or blame him. 1025 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,800 Speaker 1: He's built for the clicks. If you really got a problem, 1026 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: you had to pick up them damn sticks. In the 1027 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 1: Shahokah lounge today, put your hands together for the one 1028 00:50:55,320 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: and only Ronnie two K. Somebody literally orgasmed in the crowd. 1029 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:14,439 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I have Hey, n I have seen Ronnie. Yes, 1030 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: are you okay? Geez? Luise Ronnie. 1031 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 5: Do I get a lot of reactions? I don't know 1032 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 5: if I've gone in that one. 1033 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,800 Speaker 1: Do you get that from people? 1034 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:24,720 Speaker 5: Not very often? 1035 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: I do feel like though Summer League has always kind 1036 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 1: of been your place where the basketball world is here. 1037 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 1: The basketball world loves NBA two K. But also this 1038 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 1: is right around when the new game is going to 1039 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,360 Speaker 1: come out, everyone's wondering about their ratings. Is this a 1040 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: stressful week for you? Is it a fun week for you? 1041 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 1: How does it normally go? 1042 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 7: It's actually quite fun. I mean we look forward to 1043 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 7: the road to the next two K and it really 1044 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 7: does begin here. We usually announced our cover star, whether 1045 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 7: it was at finals or traditionally or last week when 1046 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,760 Speaker 7: we on Shay on the cover. And then the rookies. 1047 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 7: You know, it's such an exciting moment. Having played two 1048 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 7: K for the last twenty seven years, I know a 1049 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 7: lot of them are eighteen, and you know now all 1050 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 7: of a sudden they're going to get to get scanned, 1051 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 7: get a rating, get their head in the game, never 1052 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,399 Speaker 7: have to use the mobile scanner to themselves in the game, 1053 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 7: look like themselves in career Like this is a you know, 1054 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:25,360 Speaker 7: you get drafted. 1055 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 5: That's obviously one A. But right there is one B, 1056 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 5: which is you get to be in two K. 1057 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 1: I see Sga, Angel Reyes Carmelo. When did you guys decide? 1058 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: When does that happen? How long is that process before. 1059 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:38,919 Speaker 3: We see it? Yeah? 1060 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 1: It? Or can you wait until SGA wins the final? 1061 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 3: No? 1062 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 5: We can't wait that long. 1063 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 7: Obviously, there's a lot of like production things that happen. 1064 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,320 Speaker 7: It's usually like all star ish, give or take. In 1065 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 7: this case. If you really want to know when Shay 1066 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 7: found out, you can go look at my Instagram. It's 1067 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,840 Speaker 7: pretty obvious when he found out. It just depends, you know, like, 1068 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 7: is somebody off to a roaring star? Are we very 1069 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 7: connected on what we're doing? Those three in particular, we 1070 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,760 Speaker 7: were going for something audacious, very like loud. 1071 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 8: Uh. 1072 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,839 Speaker 7: These people have such a place in culture, so they 1073 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 7: were there with the standouts this year and it was 1074 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 7: there was no doubt. We left no doubt on those 1075 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 7: three cover stars, so very exciting. 1076 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 5: Uh. We were just with all three of them in 1077 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 5: the last. 1078 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 7: Week doing some pre promotional stuff for twenty six and 1079 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 7: they're just couldn't be more excited. 1080 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: One quick story before I let the Morris Twins kick 1081 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 1: your ass because I'm sure they're upset about their ratings. 1082 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,840 Speaker 3: Fuck that man, Fuck that story. 1083 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 1: Hold. Let me say, oh no, no, fucking that story. 1084 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,840 Speaker 3: It's my first question I've been kicking asked for thirteen years. 1085 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 3: My fucking readon never go past eighty. I'm confused. I'm 1086 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 3: really confused. That I haven't played the game in ten years. 1087 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 3: Because of that, I don't play two I don't deep. 1088 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 7: Oh man, I'm sorry. If I fight on that, I 1089 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 7: would have just a bunch of people, any one just 1090 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 7: right now. 1091 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 3: I would have been and I would have started playing again. 1092 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 5: All right, Well, now I know how to get you 1093 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,439 Speaker 5: back in the system. That's fine. 1094 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 3: Fucked that it was. I feel like it was deeper 1095 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,280 Speaker 3: earlier in our career. Yeah, like you know, like probably 1096 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 3: other thing around like twenty fifteen, but when two K 1097 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 3: was super hot, you know what I mean, that's when 1098 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 3: I think you start coming around a little bit more 1099 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:22,439 Speaker 3: like twenty thirteen twenty. 1100 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 7: I started in two thousand and eight, but obviously, like 1101 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,359 Speaker 7: with the advance of social media, that's usually when people 1102 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 7: started to figure out who I was. 1103 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,280 Speaker 3: How do I go about the process of like choosing ratings. 1104 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:34,320 Speaker 3: I always wanted to know that. 1105 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 7: Well, it's a formula that's like thirty one, like miniature 1106 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 7: ratings that get thrown into this thing. 1107 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:45,240 Speaker 5: There's no subjectivity, right, Like, it's not like you slip runnie, 1108 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,799 Speaker 5: somebody says they should be over in eighty. They're in eighty. 1109 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 7: Now sorry, That's what it looked like but you know, 1110 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:52,880 Speaker 7: like if you look at them kind of compared to 1111 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,319 Speaker 7: each other, it's really spot on. Like whatever you think 1112 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 7: of the number, maybe we're a little harsh, right, we 1113 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,720 Speaker 7: don't have a ninety nine club. We have no ninety nine's. 1114 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 7: Shay was a ninety eight last year. I think Jokic 1115 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 7: was a ninety seven ninety eight as well. So you're 1116 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 7: starting like the curve is a little bit higher, which 1117 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 7: means there's a lot of really good players that are 1118 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 7: seventy five and above. You know, most starters are seventy 1119 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 7: five and above. It's just a different system. But I 1120 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 7: think if you look at other games, then you're like, 1121 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 7: that's hard for me to like put my brain around. 1122 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,800 Speaker 5: So I get it about the feeling. 1123 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 3: No, what I do like is that the rating is low, 1124 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,799 Speaker 3: but the players still can play like, yeah, I'm out 1125 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 3: like sometimes and we're not gonna say yeah, Like it's 1126 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 3: just like I'm out there doing shit I do on 1127 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 3: the Kurt Because I can't even dribble two times on 1128 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 3: the game, I'll be confused that shit. 1129 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 5: I'm very sorry, Roddie. 1130 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 1: How often does this happen? Oh? 1131 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 3: Awesome time. 1132 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 7: So last night I was after dinner at the win 1133 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 7: and Og comes up to me and talks my ear 1134 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 7: off for around. I'm like, bro, I got somewhere to 1135 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,399 Speaker 7: be like. But he was like, going in on, I'm 1136 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 7: in eighty seven, I should be at least a ninety two. 1137 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 7: I'm like, wow, okay, but he had he had real thoughts, like, 1138 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 7: he had real feelings, he had real uh things to 1139 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 7: back up. But he well, his argument was like we 1140 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 7: skew offensively a little bit more than defensively. I actually 1141 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 7: don't agree with that. I think we balance it really well. 1142 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:29,800 Speaker 7: Who's a really good example. Eighty is a great great 1143 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 7: it's a great rating, great rating. 1144 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,400 Speaker 1: You said wow when you heard he wanted to be 1145 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,840 Speaker 1: a ninety two, Like, make it. 1146 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 5: You can make an argument. 1147 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 3: Kyrie. 1148 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:48,799 Speaker 5: No, I think Kyrie is ninety or ninety one now, wow, shame. 1149 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:50,960 Speaker 1: Kate. 1150 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 7: Katie Tatum was a ninety five, he's probably dropped down 1151 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 7: on ninety three. Yeah, that's that's probably a good, good, 1152 00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:57,920 Speaker 7: good comparison. 1153 00:56:58,560 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 1: So that's man, that's tough. 1154 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 5: I mean you're talking we have I think fourteen nineties. 1155 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,279 Speaker 1: How many times does a player come up to and 1156 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 1: been like, I think I might. 1157 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 3: Be rated too high. 1158 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I'd rather hear like, I don't shoot 1159 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 7: it like that. You know who said it to me 1160 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,759 Speaker 7: the other day was Josh. He's like, that might be 1161 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 7: a couple points too high. I was like, thank you, Josh, 1162 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 7: I appreciate it. 1163 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 3: That's that New York Nicks. 1164 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, no, Oji's a dick. 1165 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 1: He's there. 1166 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 7: Well, you know what OG's argument was, He was like, 1167 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 7: if I was a Laker, i'd be in ninety two. 1168 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 7: I was like, you're in the biggest NBA meeting figure 1169 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 7: and you're doing just fine. 1170 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 3: Yah. 1171 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,959 Speaker 1: Is there like a potential meter that we that people 1172 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 1: don't see in terms of like how high? Like if 1173 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 1: Marcus played is himself, could he get himself up to? 1174 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 7: So I mean, I hate to do this to the 1175 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,440 Speaker 7: Morris Twins because I actually really respect you guys, and 1176 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 7: we DM all the time. 1177 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 5: We mess with each other. That's cool. But ultimately the 1178 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 5: rating is not about me. It's got nothing to do 1179 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 5: with me. Actually, it's got everything to do with you. 1180 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 1: It changes. 1181 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 9: It's a dynamic average twenty points in New York and 1182 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 9: I shot forty seven from the three, and I shot 1183 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 9: fifty two from the floor, and I was a seventy 1184 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,919 Speaker 9: seven percentatives. 1185 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 3: How does that even how does that even equivulate to 1186 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 3: the game. 1187 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,919 Speaker 5: We just said, seventy five plus is a great rating. 1188 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 5: I feel you, I hear you. 1189 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 8: It's not. 1190 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 3: I've a player on the game that averages that was 1191 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 3: averaging twenty points. That was a seventy seven. 1192 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 5: I know you're you were a total start of the game. 1193 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 3: I get it. 1194 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 7: But what I'm saying is like, there's so few If 1195 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 7: there's fourteen guys that are ninety plus, right, give or 1196 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,919 Speaker 7: take a couple, I mean we're talking about the entire 1197 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 7: both of the All Star teams, aren't ninety plus? 1198 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 5: Think about it? 1199 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 3: That one? 1200 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, and there's a lot of very 1201 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 7: good players who are high seventies. 1202 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 1: Has anyone ever put their hands on you? 1203 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 5: Uh no, you've never been Michael hands. 1204 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but no one's ever been Like Okay. 1205 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 7: I think people are also surprised that I'm on the 1206 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 7: size of a basketball player. Yeah, I don't have the 1207 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 7: athletic ability. Have you ever been I don't rate myself. 1208 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: But don't say it. Have you ever been bribed? 1209 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 5: Oh? Yes, We're not going to get into that though. 1210 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just go. You want to know what the 1211 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 1: biggest money amount was you don't have to say that. 1212 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 7: You do a couple of Google sources, you'll you'll find 1213 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,800 Speaker 7: out everything you need to know the bribes are. 1214 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 1: And then the follow up question is, was there of 1215 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 1: a bribe where you're like, shit, I think I might 1216 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 1: take this one. 1217 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,760 Speaker 7: They're just too sacred. I'm never taking them. No bribe 1218 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,640 Speaker 7: is going to get me there. I'd love to be challenged, 1219 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 7: but no, no bribes. 1220 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 1: Who has better ratings two K or Madden? 1221 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,840 Speaker 7: Well, so that's what I was saying, Like they have 1222 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 7: a ninety nine club where they have a lot of 1223 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 7: players who are ninety nine. It's just a different system. 1224 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 3: Obviously. 1225 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:51,920 Speaker 1: It feels like there's a ton of players that are nice. 1226 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, and like those some of those guys aren't even 1227 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 7: going to be Hall of famers. We only have one 1228 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 7: ninety nine in the entire game right now, and it's 1229 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 7: ninety five ninety six Michael Jordan. So if you're comparing 1230 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 7: yourself to that, that's like the curve's just crazy. That's 1231 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 7: the best player? Who is ABA season K? Who would 1232 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 7: the NBA two K? 1233 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 1: Mount rushmore? B Who are the top four players in 1234 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,400 Speaker 1: the game, I mean of all time? 1235 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 5: We're authentic, right, So it's gonna be similar to what 1236 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 5: real life is. 1237 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 1: So you want me to give you no, no, but 1238 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 1: it would be ninety five, like you can almost do 1239 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 1: it by the year. It sounds like, so ninety five, 1240 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 1: ninety six Jordan. 1241 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, fourteen fifteen Lebron okay, probably because he was a 1242 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 7: ninety nine Uh, the big guys Morris, uh, the big 1243 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 7: guy that left the stage. He was actually the only 1244 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,000 Speaker 7: one hundred in our game. Back in two thousand and two. 1245 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 7: Our game actually had a rating system to one hundred, 1246 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 7: not ninety nine. So the only person that's ever been 1247 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 7: one hundred and two K. 1248 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 5: Was two DJ Diesel. 1249 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 3: It was dominant, and then who was the who do 1250 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:49,960 Speaker 3: you have a four? 1251 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 7: Do you know the fourth Probably there's probably a season 1252 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 7: with actually I think this season that Steph broke the 1253 01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 7: won the unanimous MVP. 1254 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 5: It might not have been the fourth one, but it's 1255 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 5: probably really close. Here's probably a Kobe season and. 1256 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that fourth one's probably tricky, but those 1257 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 7: top three are pretty solid. 1258 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 1: Ronnie. I think we're gonna need you to come to 1259 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 1: the Shack's house and we're gonna shoot an episode where 1260 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 1: I want Shack to try and shoot Shack free throws. 1261 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 5: Using like the the old two K fole segment of that. 1262 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 1: I love that of just Shack trying to make free 1263 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 1: throws as NBA two K Shack. Do you have any 1264 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 1: other gripes that you want to get off for? 1265 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 3: Any other questions that you have for Ronnie no We 1266 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 3: ten years past Dudas conversation, ten years ago conversation. I 1267 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,400 Speaker 3: stopped playing the fucking game. I literally stopped playing. 1268 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 5: I had to figure out a way to get him 1269 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 5: back and not increases writing. 1270 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 3: I gotta figure out how to do that without use 1271 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 3: my New York nick and take you know how you 1272 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 3: take the players off a certain team and you give 1273 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 3: him the Highers. 1274 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 1: This is a fair request. 1275 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 3: Take my nixt year and give me a eighty three. 1276 01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, so, I mean we do have the legendary team. 1277 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 3: What shit five years ago? 1278 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 1: So so Marcus Morris is officially requesting that in one 1279 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,439 Speaker 1: of those legend facts on the twenty. 1280 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 3: Eighty three. 1281 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 5: I'm on it. Appreciate I'm working on it right now. 1282 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 3: He says, something we may have been talking in the 1283 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 3: d MS alive about the game. Yeah, damn money, I 1284 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 3: hate this fucking game. 1285 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,560 Speaker 1: You know what, can you pull up the DMS really quick. 1286 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 3: You know, what's twenty so long ago. 1287 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,440 Speaker 7: I love this still, but I only found out that 1288 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,439 Speaker 7: we were going to do this together. I'm like, oh god, 1289 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 7: here comes some history. I only found out we were 1290 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 7: going to do this together like three minutes ago. So 1291 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,280 Speaker 7: I'm managing the best I can. 1292 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 1: Surprise. Officially, when does the game come out? I know 1293 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,720 Speaker 1: people can pre order it now, yeah, and then how 1294 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 1: can they get the different covers. 1295 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 7: It's the first Friday of September, but we have early 1296 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,280 Speaker 7: access and it comes out the friday before that, so 1297 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 7: last Friday of August. I'm hazy on the exact day 1298 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 7: right now, August twenty nine, and the covers have their 1299 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,400 Speaker 7: individual places where you get them. We have digital uh 1300 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 7: the leave no doubt addition, you heard out, I snuffed 1301 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 7: that into my I know I've done this a while 1302 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 7: and uh so you can get these. 1303 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 1: I give you a seventy nine rating for that. It 1304 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 1: was okay, we don't give out eighties on the stage. 1305 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 5: That's right, So you can get all the editions. 1306 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 1: So cool you get a physical copy. 1307 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's harder now. You know what's crazy is like back. 1308 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 7: In the day, if it was so cool to collect 1309 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 7: all those I mean you can still get them. Of course, 1310 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 7: you can get the game stop in best Buy and 1311 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:39,920 Speaker 7: et cetera. 1312 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 5: Is there a part I have? I have a chest 1313 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 5: of all of them, So, like I hope that we 1314 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 5: don't always go digital because like you know, I like 1315 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 5: my church. 1316 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 3: My father cuts you up? 1317 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 1: No please? 1318 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 3: How do you actually choose who's going on the cover? 1319 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:57,479 Speaker 7: Yeah, So that's a conversation that happens with in line 1320 01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 7: with what we're trying to accomplish in our marketing that year. 1321 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 7: And it's usually it doesn't have to be somebody from 1322 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 7: the best team. Usually they play two K but they 1323 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,480 Speaker 7: don't like necessarily have to, but they get the culture, 1324 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 7: they understand it, and they're just on a huge trajectory. 1325 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 7: So like, obviously the three people that we chose Loud, Successful, Audacious, Obviously, 1326 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,000 Speaker 7: there's plenty of people we could choose from every single year, 1327 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,480 Speaker 7: but there's a small list ultimately for each of them. 1328 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 7: And you know, I think Mellow's pretty obvious this year 1329 01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,520 Speaker 7: why he would be on there. But all three of 1330 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 7: them are like leaned heavily on culture, and that's what 1331 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,000 Speaker 7: we were really focused on this year. 1332 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 1: When do you get to be on the cover. 1333 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1334 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 7: You know, it's funny, like they make a joke. They're 1335 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,400 Speaker 7: like the legend edition. Our game is so popular, we 1336 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 7: could do no wrong. We could even put you on 1337 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,040 Speaker 7: the cover. That's the joke. It would stay. I would 1338 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 7: still do really well. Maybe what would his background? 1339 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,240 Speaker 1: Bee? What would you put in the background? 1340 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 7: You know, my favorite cover of all time was nineteen 1341 01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 7: twenty where they had the words in the background. There's 1342 01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 7: a lot memories in my you know, my twenty year 1343 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,800 Speaker 7: anniversary is coming up, which is wow, scary to think about. 1344 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 5: So maybe I don't know, maybe we can have some 1345 01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:09,720 Speaker 5: fun with that. 1346 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,880 Speaker 1: But if you just wanted to leave us, leave all 1347 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,120 Speaker 1: of the fans of NBA two K with a message 1348 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:17,920 Speaker 1: a state of the Union, what would you tell them? 1349 01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 5: I mean, it is We're just so grateful. I mean 1350 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 5: it's amazing. 1351 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 7: I got to Vegas this week and I'm staying at 1352 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,600 Speaker 7: the wind and the drapes open when you walk in 1353 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 7: the in the hotel room and our cover is on 1354 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,920 Speaker 7: the wall of Resorts World, and like, I just think 1355 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 7: about where we've come from. I mean, we were a 1356 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,080 Speaker 7: nothing franchise. It take me to when you think of that, 1357 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,560 Speaker 7: what was a nothing. Moment we were we were not 1358 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,640 Speaker 7: even the best basketball game in the category, like the 1359 01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,920 Speaker 7: leading selling basketball game in the category, and now we 1360 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,800 Speaker 7: are one of the biggest video games brands in the 1361 01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 7: entire industry. And like, just to watch that growth and 1362 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 7: watch like it'd be really authentic and sometimes raw and 1363 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:09,560 Speaker 7: sometimes like very based on the people. Like these guys 1364 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,720 Speaker 7: that love it, and I don't care if they haven't 1365 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,000 Speaker 7: played in ten years. It's important to them. Marc is like, 1366 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 7: but you get what I'm saying, Like it is, it 1367 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 7: has totally changed it and it's all about the fans, 1368 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,120 Speaker 7: and we like listen to the feedback and we really 1369 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 7: want to do our best. And there's no game that 1370 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,920 Speaker 7: changes like it, you know. And I think it's set 1371 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,920 Speaker 7: such a high bar that it creates so much consternation, 1372 01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 7: which is why I'm such a polarizing figure, you know, right. 1373 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:39,280 Speaker 7: But it's it's been such a humbling and amazing journey 1374 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 7: and I'm so thankful to our to our fans to 1375 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:42,800 Speaker 7: follow us for twenty seven years. 1376 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm glad we got to continue our streak. 1377 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I see this other time every we 1378 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,440 Speaker 7: did we did a fun gig, a summer league last 1379 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 7: couple of years as a show called Underrated, where like 1380 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:55,440 Speaker 7: we would so like people like. 1381 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 1: Marcus would be like, my ratings too low, and then 1382 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,040 Speaker 1: we would do drills to improve the rad. 1383 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,920 Speaker 7: So Kat, for example, did like, he's like, my outlaw 1384 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 7: passes are amazing. So we built us an obstacle course 1385 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 7: where you had to actually do outlet passes, and we 1386 01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 7: gave him a better badge because of it. 1387 01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 5: So, hey, look, maybe we'll build. 1388 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,200 Speaker 3: You an off a bit like that. 1389 01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have an enforcer badge? 1390 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 5: Yeah? There is? 1391 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:19,440 Speaker 1: Really I don't have it. 1392 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,240 Speaker 3: Are you sure me or him don't have that? Shit? 1393 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,160 Speaker 1: What about us slamming someone's head with a ball badge? 1394 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:25,760 Speaker 3: Do we have that? 1395 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,960 Speaker 1: That's when we can consis guys giving up for Ronnie 1396 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,080 Speaker 1: two K Ronnie, thank you so much. The game is 1397 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,520 Speaker 1: coming out September fifth. Get up seven days of early 1398 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,320 Speaker 1: access when you pre order the Superstar or leave No 1399 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,680 Speaker 1: Doubt editions on p s five NBA two K freaking 1400 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,760 Speaker 1: twenty six Friday. 1401 01:07:47,960 --> 01:08:24,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, so I've been kicking for thirteen years. 1402 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,840 Speaker 3: Uh huh in my three and never go past eighty