1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys This is media Match, 3 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, dropping wisdom and offering sizzling 4 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now 5 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: your host, Newy scrugs. Here we are the meeting, Nash. 6 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: It is Wednesday. We've got your favorites, the ones you love, 7 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: the insiders, ones who cover the Cowboys, who listen to 8 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: the rules, except for Clarence. Tad is tired of you 9 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: talking at a turn. Okay, pickyback pickbacks. Tad's gonna have 10 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: something for you this Christmas. It was gonna be a gift. 11 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: Dad Carpers, the head of PR For anybody who doesn't know, 12 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about. At a point, tend to point. 13 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: Tad's got it all lined up. In Clarence just after 14 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: getting well green Bay, I thought Green Bay he was 15 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: gonna choking and green Clarence gets excited after these games. 16 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: But I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm standing 17 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: right by you, and I first of all, sometimes I mean, 18 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: I understand what he's trying to do, but it's silly 19 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: on World Games. But that was that it's sitting on 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: road games in the locker room, uh and me where 21 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: it just everybody's standing and it's like a crowded room 22 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: sitting there for you. And do this when you're with 23 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: a regular press conference, when we're sitting on Monday. It 24 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: makes sense because you know people can see you, nobody 25 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: can come on stop it. I personally appreciate it because 26 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: not on road games, because first of all, you get 27 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: your own First of all, let's let's let's open the 28 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: curt behind the scenes. Miss NFL Network gets goes to 29 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: the interview, they'll pull her into the locker room so 30 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: she get to get the main player. Yeah, but I'm 31 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: talking about it. Begin at the locker room. They pull 32 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: her in and she gets her own personal Last I checked, 33 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,919 Speaker 1: Jerry is the chairperson of the NFL Network. Nobody's hating 34 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: on that. And if you're not telling me that you 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: don't get phone calls from in the house because Jerry 36 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: Jones loves to see his papers, the newspapers. You act 37 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: like you guys don't there. It was just a few 38 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: years ago that I tried to sit in on an 39 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: off the record conversation and I was told I'm not local. 40 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: I live on this speed. You guys get plenty. You're 41 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: taking us down another road, right. I was not hating 42 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: the one that's like she gets three questions off to 43 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: the side. I was not hating excess. I was just 44 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: pointing out, you do have exclusive excess. I was not 45 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: hating on It's okay just as much exclusive. No no, no, 46 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: don't no no do not So so we're not getting 47 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: back to the NFL partner, and that's getting getting back 48 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: to those sessions about the stadium at six thirty in 49 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: the morning, and so your seven hours of pregame car 50 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: crazy means not hating on your access. You don't have 51 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: to attack. What I'm saying is I never attack. That 52 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: was the tech. I feel like you have no news 53 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: and checks you a little bit. You were you were 54 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: talking about the back and forth of the questions and 55 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: sometimes it's not needed when you're in a crowded locker 56 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: room after the game. That's I would argue. With some 57 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: of the personalities on our beat, there's actually a nice 58 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: flow to it. Again, it might be the biggest personality 59 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: and the beat, let's see, it's weird the room that 60 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: somebody got to ask questions. Okay, oh yeah, because yeah, 61 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: you know what, I'll tell you, guys, what after that 62 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: Green Bay loss, if Chill would have been there to 63 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: ask questions, you know, Mike and Dak would just staid 64 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: at the podium, we all would have you guys have 65 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: anything to say, No, let's get out here. There's nothing 66 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: to talk about it for that game, nobody would ask 67 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: any question. Do you want to take the into your show? Yes, 68 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: Clarence Hill, four star Telegram John the show to the 69 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: athletic Jane Slater of NFL Media, I'm merely knew, He scrugs. 70 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: But this is what we're gonna do here for the 71 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: next forty five. May have some we're going to do, 72 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: and you see how we eat our own. John is 73 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: on my side. Really, he doesn't think that we need 74 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: to be doing that point and stuff either. But because 75 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: I made that one statement, then he jumps on Jane's 76 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: side and attacks me because family I was. I was 77 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: just talking say that no one's gonna ask any questions. 78 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: But but you could have been on that. I'm just 79 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: saying there only a few people are going to ask questions. 80 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: What I'm saying you could be in that group. I'm 81 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: just saying I'm talking to Jane understanding that it's not 82 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: necessary to do this, this, this, all this. I need 83 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: to get those first couple of questions, and because I 84 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: need to get those tweets out, Yeah, exactly, I need 85 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: somebody got asked the question to get them tweets out. See, 86 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: we're on the same team, don't that, Jane. I never 87 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: said we weren't. It literally is the reason why I 88 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: love to beat so much, because we do allow ourselves 89 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: the opportunity to sort of cap on each other and 90 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: actually is like a family. I love you, Clarence. I'll 91 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: tell you right now. I'll tell you right now. We 92 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: talked about yesterday and the Jeff when I showed up 93 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: to the American Airline Center and I see him and 94 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: I see Calvin. It's we didn't tell each other that 95 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: we were going, but it's like, well, Odell's gonna be here. 96 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: We all It's just like the combine. You know, you're 97 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: just like, you know you're gonna see everybody. So I 98 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: lost my edge, you know, I found myself going I 99 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: should have gone to that listen. Yeah, that stuffs beneath him, 100 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: don't care. We had Tim McMahan down there him. Yeah, 101 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, he had some ESPN people down there, but 102 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: but yeah, we were we had to be there. He 103 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: had I mean I had already known. You know, we 104 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: were talking about it Sunday after the game. We're asking 105 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: Dec and Mata you go on, I'm going, I'm going, 106 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: you want to say. I didn't really know because I 107 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: had some stuff at the house with my family and 108 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: I didn't know. But I did put it in requests 109 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: just in case. I just then I gotta go. I'll 110 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: be honest. I was following all of your content. Was 111 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: just as fascinated as everyone else, because I think a 112 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: lot of us too. And Doc had talked about this. 113 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: He's more of a sweet guy at courtside. But I 114 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: was like, where, Zeke, where, where's the contential? So you 115 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: missed that? Oh? I know I did. We're at the 116 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: Zeke press car. That was awesome when I asked. First 117 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: of all, we got a couple of things on Zeke. 118 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: I know we're off the rails here, so I asked, 119 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: I asked Zeke about why weren't you cool side? Why 120 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: weren't you with them? Of course side? And he would 121 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: I can't go everywhere. Yeah, I wouldn't go everywhere to 122 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: be out everywhere. Yeah, I'll be talking about me. He's 123 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: not wrong. So I can't see that because it was odd. 124 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: Odell was an older player. I know, he's more Dak 125 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: and Zeke's age than Michael and Trevn's age. Okay, so 126 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: he was It just odd that he was with Mike 127 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: and Trevor. No offensive guys, two defensive got two young 128 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: defensive guys. That that that's the group he was with. 129 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: You're not wrong, that was my thought. My thought was 130 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: because Dak and Zeke spent a lot of time with 131 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: him at Pro Bowl, remember, Yeah, so I just assumed 132 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: that they would be part of the contingency. And I 133 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: even asked Micah and Trayvon the level of friendship, and 134 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: it's like, I think, no different than a lot of 135 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: us on social media that are friends with other reporters. 136 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: We meet on Instagram, you see each other. But that 137 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: was kind of the I don't know where right or 138 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: even maybe CD it was a receiver. It just it 139 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: was interesting that it was Treyvon and so yes we 140 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: and Corey Gamble and Corey Gamble which is you know, 141 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: Chris Jender's which is what is wondering who like who's 142 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: that guy? Yeah he was. John told me yesterday who 143 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: so black? So he he enjoyed that. But I'll be honest, 144 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: I felt dirty. I feel like paparazzi. There was a 145 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: paparazzi moment and I feel that way too, Yeah, because 146 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm too old to be chasing people down in the 147 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: halls and going this way and I am, but they 148 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: know and it's not and it's not chasing because when 149 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: I think of chasing, I think of like running after something. 150 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: It's not that we've done that before. Backwards though, while 151 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: they're walking and you don't know what's about, and they're 152 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: not trying to know other people. If one thing, if 153 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: you're doing, they're gonna stop and doing interviews. Nothing where 154 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: they're not trying to talk to you. I feel like 155 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: TMZ at the airport when they get those guys at 156 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: the airport. So we're doing that and we felt dirty. 157 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, it was fun. Everybody is there and so 158 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: Jane again trying to throw another body was you're so 159 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: so so everybody is taking video of him coming in 160 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: and leaving, right. You took the video of leaving the arena. 161 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely so leaving the arena, he stopped and chats chats 162 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: it up with some female fans. Did you not get 163 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: the video him chatting up with female fans? Did you 164 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: not show that? What are you walking out? I cut 165 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: my videos so that there's certain things in, certain things 166 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: left out, so you didn't show the female fans hugging 167 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: him up and getting the phone number. Clarence hill Row, 168 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: My fisher was in two so he has so we all, yes, everybody. 169 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is so I just showed the whole 170 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: video of him. I was trying to ask me questions. 171 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: He wouldn't stop for me, but he stopped for these 172 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: young ladies. And then you know, they gave him a 173 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: phone number and he kept walking out the building. That's 174 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: whatever a fact that the number was exchanged. It was 175 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: something I don't know. Everybody on Facebook, Twitter, everybody said 176 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: the numbers excited people. How you posted this on your Instagram? 177 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: Tell him, you tell him, you tell her. I highly 178 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: enjoyed it, but he posted it was like Hope J 179 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: just saying hi to his fans very attractive women as 180 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: they don't seem to have a familiarity with I said, oh, 181 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: BJ leaving the Mayo's game saying hot to his fans. 182 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: Fans was in quote. That's what happened. He was leaving 183 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: the build us in out to his fans. And then 184 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: she told and she told Zeke and the clowns you 185 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: posted that. You well, you though you did him dirty. 186 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: I did. He was just talking to fans. You tried 187 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: to do him dirty over what Jerry did to it. Oh, yeah, 188 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: I was just returning the favor. Yes, And we had 189 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: that moment in the locker room. I'm sorry, we have 190 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: completely but it's inside to what's going on. We're not 191 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: allowed on together. And it was a really good locker room, 192 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: by the way. Oh and so Zeke. So Zeke and 193 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: I were talking about I asked Zeke about the Jerry comments. 194 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: Hedn't want to talk about it again. Ain't talking You 195 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: keep asking me any questions. And then he gave me 196 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: a hook. They didn't have a hug. So we had 197 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: already quashed it. And Jane comes back and said, throws 198 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: me back out of the bus. No, but it was 199 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: a good locker room today because you Mica talking about 200 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: that visit, you know, the recruiting trip. I think the 201 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: biggest thing to come out of that is that we 202 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: all have sat there and gone around like, okay, well 203 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: when we'd be able to come back and play when 204 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: we have to play, And Mica said that Odell told 205 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: him five weeks. So that's five weeks from now, that's 206 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: started the playoffs. That a why don't you take it 207 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: from there? Because you don't want too pleased about that? 208 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: I tried to tell you, I'm out. Yeah, further why 209 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: I'm out. But okay, you guys are all in. Clearly 210 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: you enjoyed the drama coming around. Man, that's you guys 211 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: like that. You guys like that, and that's okay. Yeah, 212 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: so you're changing the story a little bit there because 213 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: they didn't know that you didn't know the medicals. Though 214 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: you didn't know the medical The medicals change things, okay, 215 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: So when the medicals are fine, I'd be still I 216 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: would be all about them. First. There's two different things here. 217 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: There's covering the story and also believing where he should 218 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: be on the team. Yes, we enjoyed covering the story. 219 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: That's our job. So to say we enjoyed it, Yes, 220 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: we enjoy talking about it. We have to get its content. 221 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: We enjoy always stuff. Okay, there's a different between enjoying 222 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: content and saying this is who should they should add 223 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: to the team. So it's our job to report the content. 224 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: So we enjoy that. That's our job. Now as we 225 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: analyze whether it's the bright thing for the cowboy to do. 226 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: That's maybe a different conversation once you get all the 227 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: information in Okay. I think based on my discussions, I 228 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: think Jerry was very optimistic beforehand before the visit. And 229 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: remember we were outside the locker room on Sunday. I 230 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: had said to Jerry, I said, are you comfortable giving 231 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: a guy a contract that you're not working out? And 232 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: he said, I would do something uncomfortable. I have to 233 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: because of the surgery. But then I think when he 234 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: got in here, remember he also said, I'll know like 235 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: he's been wrong on the feelings for I get the 236 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: sense when he was here and after talking to a 237 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: bunch of people, the concern started to creep up up 238 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: about this knee. And I had pointed out to someone, well, 239 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: what about the workout videos. We saw him, you know, 240 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: pulling weights and we heard about the acceleration he's doing, 241 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: and I was told a lot of it was front on. 242 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: You're not seeing him cut in and out, and that 243 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: was caused for concern and I've asked everyone close to OBJ, 244 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: why isn't he working out? Like how much is it 245 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: going to set him back in his rehab process if 246 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: we're seeing him pulling weights and doing some of that 247 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: stuff just to go outside and run a few routes 248 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: with dak If no one can give me a straight 249 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,599 Speaker 1: answer on that. First of all, First of all, you 250 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: can't really sit back when you're working out with the 251 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: trainers who are whose job is it to make sure 252 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: you're healthy. I mean that that's part of it. They 253 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't put him, they wouldn't jeopardize him and put him 254 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: in a situation like that. But but just just going 255 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: back the tenor the momentum has waned. You know, Jerry 256 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: Jones was very excited Sunday night, very excited last week 257 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: about the visit and pitting visit, what he could do 258 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: for the team. His tone changed on the radio Tuesday, 259 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: and we talked to me again the day and he 260 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: refused to say that they were out. He said, we're 261 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: still working on it. But his tone is just much 262 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: different than it was before. And it certainly had something 263 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: to do with what he saw with the metal Before 264 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: you guys jump in, I got it because I said 265 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: that was locker room was good today. And so DeMarcus 266 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: Lawrence quote is definitely for NEWI oh yeah, I saw, yes, 267 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: So what he's saying? All right? So DeMarcus Lawrence was asked, 268 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: is it fair to say that you want the Cowboys 269 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: to sign Oute Beckham Junior. I loved this one. He says, 270 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: it's fair to say. I'm trying to reach a super Bowl, 271 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: So if he can come and help us with that, 272 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: then yes, I'll accept him. But if we're just going 273 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: to do the circus, no I don't. I'm focused on 274 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: this year, this team, what we have in this locker room, 275 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: and the journey we're on. So that circus. I literally 276 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: when he said circus, I was like, I had a 277 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: picture of New He scrugs in my head and let 278 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: me bring up South Carolina. Yes, yes, I had a 279 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: personal league once. Tell me if you want a free agent, 280 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: you don't let him leave the building. And I said 281 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: to Jerry, I said that to and he goes, well, 282 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: I've had some guys leave the building. And I went 283 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: up to Jason Peters. I said, did you have an 284 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: offer when you left the building? He goes, I did. 285 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: Now that was a little different. He was able to 286 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: work out for him. They had the Arkansas connection. They 287 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, obviously wanted to be a Cowboys from the area. 288 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: But my point is when you want a guy, you 289 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: typically don't let him leave the building. And I don't 290 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: know if the Giants offered him or the Bills offered him, 291 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: but there certainly hasn't been any There's typically leaked on 292 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: that they've talked money. Though the Cowboys have talked money. Okay, 293 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: they made offer was made. They they've talked money, and 294 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: they might have talked him, but there's not an offer. 295 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: But they have an understanding of what he wants and 296 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: what they want, and there's there's an understanding about that. 297 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: But but beyond the when you're being intentional an offer, Yes, Dad, 298 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: Let's get to the offer of what we may be 299 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: hearing as we tease the audience. There's more to come 300 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: with our insiders. We did go fifteen minutes for the 301 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: first club. Parence Hill Star Telegram, John Michure, the Athletic 302 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: Change Slater NFL in the media, Neuis Scruggs. 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They're going to the Cheese It 352 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: Bowl to play Oklahoma. Are you familiar with them? I mean, 353 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: if it's between Chase it in Duke's Mayo, I mean, 354 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean that is what it is. 355 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: Come on down to stand a tone to the Alamo Bowl. Okay, 356 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: record seventh appearance, by the way, lest sometimes you go, hey, 357 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: there was a time when with the Holiday Bow, Sir, 358 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember those Holiday bo Yes, yes, 359 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: every year in Holiday Remember the year they got out 360 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: of it Mac Politic to get out of the Holiday 361 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: Bowl and threw Aaron Rodgers in it, and Aaron was 362 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: mad and Cal got smoked. So let's just start calling 363 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: it their Texas Bowl. I mean that's where they live. 364 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: They got one in Houston called the Texas Spring, so 365 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: it's the Longhorn invitation. Hey, hey, you better I gotta 366 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: ask you a question, Jane, I don't know if you 367 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: follow college for us? What both of penbro stay going to? 368 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: I have no idea. Do you know what? You don't 369 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: even know what that is? No? You've heard of it? No? Yeah, 370 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: you know what? No, I'm sorry. I mean he's he's 371 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: the smartest guys, I know, great smart guys. Division two level. 372 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: There are no bowl games in the Division two Do 373 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: you not know that? Dude? They got playoffs? Y'all got 374 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: you got jokes? Don't y'all winning playoff? Oh? Y'all winning anything? 375 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: I actually actually knew it. Where you going to score? 376 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: Right now? Hey? Why are you doing this? Literally one 377 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: of the smartest guys. I know. We're not hating all 378 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: his smartness, but he's hating on your album, so it's 379 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: fair to point out his album made. That's all I'm saying. 380 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: That's fair. That's fair game. It's fair game, and we're 381 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm not a two attack, but he he took a 382 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: shot at your t school. Jane just can't let him go. No, 383 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: you're not. You're not. Why why wouldn't would Uh? Who's 384 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: on our team? Every every long horn it comes here 385 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: knows your name? Why because I covered him when I 386 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: was at Because you worked with the ut line Jefferson. Yeah, 387 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: they all know her, they worship her. No, they talked, Jeez, 388 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: save this Newey. We were talking about Odell Beckham. You 389 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: were gonna give us numbers, sir, I don't. I mean, 390 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: what I understand is that it's been the situation on 391 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: along Um. Clearly the Cowboys don't know if he's ready 392 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: this year, but they don't want to do more than 393 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: one year. What did he want numbers is? I don't 394 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: know what the numbers are. I mean, I've I've heard 395 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: twenty million over two years. I don't know if I'm 396 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: doing that. If he's healthy, it is age. I think 397 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: the question you really have to raise and I had 398 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: brought this up because I've talked through this with about 399 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: eight people on his I've talked to people that are 400 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: close to OBJ, I've talked to people over here, and 401 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: my question was whether the Cowboys get OBJ or not, 402 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: and whether people believe that this was a Jerry stunt 403 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 1: or not. It did motivate your wide receiver room. I mean, 404 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: think about it. We started talking about OBJ and the 405 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: bye week, and then in the Packers game we started 406 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: seeing CD really come along and then Michael Gallop, and 407 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: while they've said the right things on camera, you can 408 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: kind of feel a little bit of the fatigue from 409 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: both of them and the frustration. So I think you 410 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: properly motivated that room, which I think is a good thing. 411 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: But CD is going to be coming up for a 412 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: contract next year. Tony Pollard and I just have to 413 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: wonder if you sign a guy and you're giving him 414 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: all this money and he's just sitting on a shelf 415 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: for you. I don't think ob J is a cancer. 416 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: If he's able to play for you, I think he 417 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: I've enjoyed covering ob J in his career. I think 418 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: he's a talented player, and I think if he could 419 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: play right now, Jerry would have literally opened up the pocketbook. 420 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: I truly believe he would have let him leave. He 421 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: would not have let him leave the building without an offer, 422 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: and he would have been competitive about it. But if 423 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: you were to sign a guy based on it future 424 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: and you've got guys coming up for a contract and 425 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: he's taking away a piece of the pie, and he's older. 426 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: He's got these two acal situations. I think that has 427 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: a potential to create some friction in that locker round. Yeah, 428 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: but that's what I believe. I agree. But but again, 429 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: like DeMarcus said, the focus is now. The focus is 430 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: winning now. It's it's all about winning now. And so yeah, 431 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of coincidental that the Rod receivers started playing 432 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 1: better when all this talk came up. I think it's coincident. Well, 433 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: I think if you told there was some young guy 434 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: on your beat and they're like, you know, Clearance isn't 435 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: really getting a lot of scoops. We want someone like 436 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: John that's gonna take a bunch of videos, get us 437 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: more clicks. You'd be stepping up your social media game. Okay, 438 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: but what do you just want? What I'm saying is this. 439 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is this. I think it's also not 440 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: a secret that they started playing better when Deck showed up. 441 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: I think all of it is linked together continuity. But 442 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: I think there was just a little bit of fire 443 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: for any of that. But as it shouldn't be. But 444 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: but the thing about it is is that and I 445 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: think it's still a question. The need for Odell is 446 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: not about the way CD was playing, or really the 447 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: way Michael Gallop was playing, is that they need another weapon. 448 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: The third receiver is Noel Brown. He's a personal punt protector. 449 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: They still and I but Cowboy is a third wide 450 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: receiver or even a two guy worth what he's we're 451 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: ultimately looking for. I think that's what that was a 452 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: thing too, is that you're not talking about just a 453 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: two or three. You're talking about a two or three that, 454 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: if healthy, can produce like a one. Right, And you're 455 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: talking about this So Jerry was, Yeah, it's always about 456 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: the hell that's that's the main thing. But Jerry was 457 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: talking about this being a potential difference making player. I'm 458 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: doing it because he's a difference making player. If he's 459 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: not a difference making player, then yeah, it's off the table. 460 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: But if he's had the difference making players, I don't 461 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: care about their feelings. It's all about winning right now. 462 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: It's not about their feelings. The Cowboys are worried about 463 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: feelings for twenty seven years. I don't think they care 464 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: about feelings. If he can play right now, we're on 465 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: the same page. We're saying about. What I'm saying is 466 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,479 Speaker 1: if you're paying that guy all that money and he 467 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: can't contribute the season, I think, and then it starts 468 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 1: to mess with your piece of the pie. They're not. 469 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: That's where it creates, and which is why a deal 470 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: hasn't been done. But they're not doing it if you 471 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: can't help this season. Let me ask you this, do 472 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: you think Jerry is really in good faith still working 473 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: on a deal? He told us today he was, But 474 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: do you guys a good faith still working on it. 475 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: I think that's still in conversation now. I think they're 476 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: still in conversations into him. That that's part of it. 477 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't think that the the the communication have been 478 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: shut off, so in essence, it's not over. They haven't 479 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: moved on. Jerry hasn't moved on in his mind. And 480 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: until Jerry boves on in his mind, it doesn't matter 481 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: what anybody else in the organizations thing Jerry. Jerry won't 482 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: move on until he's with a different team. And I 483 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: hear you as I was told, Jerry could could surprise everyone. 484 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: Jerry could feel like this guy is good for business, 485 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: liked his energy. I think there's a part of him, 486 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: like Papa Monday Night kind of misses what does brought 487 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: to this organization, that personality, the branding. But I do 488 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of people in the building 489 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: that are like, is this worth it? And to your 490 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: point what DeMarcus said, look at the circus that comes 491 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: with it, and they haven't really had a circus type 492 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: player around he think about right, and that that is 493 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: a great thing about this team is because they don't 494 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: have that circus type player. And and and Zeke got 495 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: a lot of tension because of off the field stuff, 496 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: but it's not like they have that that thousand light 497 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: bulb type player on this team. And he would he certainly. 498 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: And Jerry likes that. He liked that with Michael Irving 499 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: like he he likes that with Dion Sanders. He likes 500 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: that thousand wild personality and they haven't had that. And 501 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: Jerry doesn't care that it's a circus. I know, DeMarcus 502 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: Lawrence the one certain Jerry don't care. I get it. 503 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: Let me dive into some substance here seventy seven at 504 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: practice today. Oh yeah, when do you expect him to 505 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: be in the lineup? I think it's pushing it to say, 506 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: this week, but next week, I don't. I don't think 507 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: he's that far away. The way Zeke talked about him today, 508 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: what he saw from him, he said, you know, he 509 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: looked like a guy. I don't have the right quote 510 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: with me right now, but I mean, look, he saw 511 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: a guy that he felt like was ready to contribute 512 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: it right away. I just don't think that they would 513 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: put him out there after only practicing for three days, 514 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: coming off that injury like that, Zeke said, And he 515 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: looked really good. I feel bad for those d ns 516 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: he was going against. I'm sure they're gonna have some 517 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: bruises on their chest. He looks good. He looks he's 518 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: put in shape. An Tyring Smith, by the way, the 519 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: doctor good news. And I talked to Tarren. He said 520 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: he if they if they let him go, he's ready 521 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: to play. Yeah. But the other thing about this is 522 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: is a good news is how the Cowboy's been doing it, 523 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: how they've been rotating gays. So there's a chance he 524 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: could come out and do what they've done with Jason Peters. 525 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to play the whole game, but it's 526 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: the Texas. If you're going to experimenting, let's see what 527 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: the guy got, we can put him in part of 528 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: the rotation. A couple of snaps. Does it get that 529 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: much more difficult the following week, though, so I was 530 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: told because I asked that exact question, I said, were 531 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: you guys setting up to sort of sub in, subout 532 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: and East Tyrant in by what we saw at the 533 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: Colts game? Because I think all of us were sort 534 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: of scratching her heads, like why are you moving these 535 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: guys in game? And it was described to me that 536 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: we could see him making his debut against Jacksonville and 537 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: that's what when you would see a sub in, subout 538 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: and then he would be obviously ready to go for 539 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: the Eagles. Like that seems to be what they're kind 540 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: of circling right now, is let's get him. You know, 541 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: it's Mike McCarthy always says, let's get a full week 542 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: of practice, see how your body feels. But it sounds 543 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: like he would play in the Jacksonville game, but maybe 544 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: not necessarily start. You'd see that sub in, subout, and 545 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: then he'd be ready to go for it. And he's 546 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: been ramping up for a while. It's not like he's 547 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: just coming off the street, you know, kind of like 548 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 1: Jason Peters. You know, he has been around, he's been 549 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: out there with Britty, he was here for all the 550 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: training camp. So it's not like you're starting from scratch, 551 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: you know. And so he knows the system, he knows 552 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: the offense, and so again it's funny to me and 553 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad they're doing it. I think that the Cowboys 554 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: this year are doing whatever it takes to win a 555 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: Super Bowl because I know in the year's past you 556 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: never messed with offensive line of chemistry. You don't want 557 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: to do this. That's fantasy football. We can't move Zach 558 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: Martin left tackling. You gotta move one guy, you gotta 559 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: move two guys. All that mumbo jumbo. They're moving guys 560 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: all around there, tinkering with it because they're trying to 561 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: get the best five guys out there. And that is great. 562 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: That's what you want to do. That's what you should 563 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: be doing, especially against these games that you bet they're 564 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: gonna blow out. They should blow out of you sitting. 565 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: They should do the same thing with Jacksonville. Let's let's 566 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: find out about this team. These are preseason games. But 567 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: to be fair, I think a lot of these guys 568 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: exceeded a lot of expectations. I don't think a lot 569 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 1: of people thought or Smith was going to be as 570 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: good as he was, or have the position flex that 571 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: they've kind of been missing on. As a yes, and 572 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: that's great, but especially a rookie, you don't even they 573 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: don't even want to do that with a veteran, make 574 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: him learn two different positions. They're doing that. We would 575 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: have these conversations, how hard is it to move? Well, 576 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: you can't just move from guard to time. They've made 577 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: it Rocket Simms. It's just impossible to do it is 578 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: now the sudden. You can just let him play where 579 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: you can play. Connor McGovern can play Garden Center and 580 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: Tackling the same game as it's just fullback everything and 581 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: show that stuff. Yeah, since since you said about substance, 582 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: also wanted to end here. Clark's gonna love this. Although 583 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: I don't know that we'll see Tyrn Smith this week, 584 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: I think we will see something from James Washington. It 585 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: sounds like he was, you know, he's fully cleared. McCarthy 586 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: said he's physically ready and that he was going to 587 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: do a lot more work today than he did last week. 588 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: So maybe we see him out there for for some plays. Um, 589 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure that that that crowd that they're listening to 590 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: this that wants to move on from model. Beckham would 591 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: love for James Washington and come in and say it 592 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: show any positive. It's Washington though, based on what we 593 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: saw the Steelers. Okay, but okay, listen to that negative. 594 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: It was negative a whole lot of range. Okay, Okay, 595 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: I ask something. I'm as specific. I'm glad you brought 596 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: it up. Whatever he did was the Steelers was better 597 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: than Noah Brown has ever done. WHOA, I feel like 598 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: that's a little harsh. I feel I thought I told 599 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: you it was going to go this way, Burnt Orange Haters. 600 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: Noah was quite the dog in the first couple of 601 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: games this year. I'm talking about throughout his career before 602 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: this year. Whatever James watching whatever, whatever James watching it 603 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: done with the Steelers was better than he's ever done. 604 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: That's a fair argument. That's my point. That's all I'm saying. 605 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: So so just it's not about Odell Beckham Kenny upgrade 606 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: from James Washington, because again it's it's not just about 607 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: we keep talking about the development of CD and development 608 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: of Michael gallop. But last year and they got in trouble. 609 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: You know, they were locking all three of them down. 610 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: They were the physical corners. You still need another guy, 611 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: that's fair. You don't have a lot of faith in 612 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 1: Semi or Jalen. Stop. That's not stop. Stop do they 613 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm asking said, an't even on a roster any in 614 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: the reserve mass ten weekness, just messing with you, okay. 615 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: I did ask down against the damn baby Buccaneers. I 616 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: did ask Vanta today. I said, are we going to 617 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: start seeing you get involved in the offense? And he said, 618 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: there's plays in there for me. Says there's plays in 619 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: there for me, And he says, I typically play my 620 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: best football in January, So I think you could start 621 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: seeing him. Maybe they've got something in the playbook for 622 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: him during the playoffs. 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With Kelvin 672 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: Joseph on the football field, make me feel good about this. 673 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: Having to see Number one play significant minutes in the 674 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: secondary for the Dallas Cowboys as they try to make 675 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: a season ending push here in January to go to 676 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs. We've given a lot of opinions though, which 677 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: why do you feel that way? Okay, time you see 678 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: him in action, Christian Wilkins touchdown, Coltskin touchdown, I mean penalty. 679 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: I agree. When you look here, you just you see 680 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: a second round pick and you just say, here's here's 681 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: my thing. I don't know, like forget this week and 682 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: next week, but well we're gonna say going into the playoffs, 683 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: you could tell me that that starting corner opposite of 684 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs outside corner because Bland will be the guy 685 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: in the slot. You could tell me it's Calvin Joseph 686 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: and Sean Wright, Kendall Sheffield, McKenzie, Alexander they just said, 687 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: and I would I could understand any one of them, Like, 688 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: I can't rule out any of it right now. Kelvin 689 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: Joseph is going to get every opportunity. I mean, he's 690 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: a second round pick. He's the next guy in the 691 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: depth chart. But if you told me going to the 692 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: playoffs that he wasn't the other startain corner, We're not 693 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: surprised me at all. Yeah. I think the issue with 694 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph has been his consistency and the cost of it. 695 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: And I just keep going back to the calls that 696 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 1: I would get from my LSU folks that they warned 697 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys multiple times knowing that he was sitting there 698 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: and that the Cowboys were showing interest. I don't know, 699 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: I feel like some people would say that this was 700 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: a guy you don't roll the dice on, right, But 701 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: there's I'm sure that there are some people, maybe not 702 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: to that that length, but I'm sure that there's people 703 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: with a lot of players that they draft. You know, 704 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: there's probably some people like a Parsons We talked about that, 705 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: and that looks like, you know, a great situation here. 706 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: This felt like this was a as it was just 707 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: as it was described to me. Do you know how 708 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: hard it is to get kicked out of LSU? That 709 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: was literally how it was described to me. And I'm 710 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: not saying I came in with bias as well as 711 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 1: it relates to Kelvin Jose. Guys didn't get kicked at LSU. 712 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: It's hard. But to your point of they invited they 713 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: invited him to Lea when the LSU come, hey man, 714 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: you're too hot for us. It's in Kentucky the basketball school. 715 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: Hey man, thanks, thanks, and what sounds it wasn't like 716 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: he was tearing it up on the field in college. 717 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: Either he had the measurables, but he wasn't, you know, 718 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: stinctly coming out of Kentucky. Or We've talked about this 719 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: many times. The thing I keep going back to is 720 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: like even in training camp, you just didn't see. That's 721 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that's when I go back to 722 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: like he don't make play he made He's made no 723 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: plays and I give him credit. He got his hands 724 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: on the ball against the Colts, right, that's the first 725 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: time I see him get his hands on the ball. Okay, 726 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: but this was the Colts. Okay, whatever again, preseason training 727 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: camp and see him leading him, see him get his 728 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: hands on the ball. Uh, my questions and and and 729 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: and My thing is that even before the incident, he 730 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: was horrible off the field. Last year, he was horrible. 731 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: Showed up with all that stuff, all that bag of 732 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: dollaric questions, and he still let them down. It was 733 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: a disappointment off the field as well as on the 734 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: field of the rookie Okay, and then you know, the 735 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: thing happened. It may it may have been a wake 736 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: up call for him, probably one that he didn't deserve 737 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: based on the circumstances and everything had happened, But the 738 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys gave him that extra opportunity. Just by all accounts, 739 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: they say he's done the right things on the field, work, 740 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: ethic and all the other stuff, and and Quinn and 741 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: everybody's talked about this. Certainly he's been a great player 742 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: on special teams. But again, canny do any cornerback. Canny 743 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: do it on the field. And I just keep going 744 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: to you have a golden opportunity to take this job, 745 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: because Anthony Brown's contract is up this year, right, so 746 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: you have the opportunity. They try to give him a 747 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: job last year. And I'm not saying play through sickness, 748 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: but there are certain guys on this team, like Michael Parsons. 749 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: If he had an opportunity to start, when he's just 750 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: been sitting on this roster on special teams, you better 751 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: believe that he would be out here with a diaper 752 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: on playing. I truly feel that way about about Micap. Now, 753 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: not everyone's built like that, and I'm not saying you should. 754 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: And I don't know what his illness is, so I 755 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: don't want to be unfair here, but you have a 756 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: golden opportunity. I don't know if I've seen him rise, well, well, 757 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: there's two things on that occasions, but there's two things 758 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: on that. Everyone's hoping I see that, but there's there's 759 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: two things on that. Because even if he wanted to 760 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: come out here with the illness, I'm keeping him away 761 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 1: because I don't want because it's gone through the locker room. 762 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: I don't want him get I don't want to saying 763 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: I don't want to get in the weeds about I 764 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: don't want to get anybody, and I don't know what 765 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: his illness is, so want to be fair on that. 766 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: But McCarthy said it's the same thing he had a 767 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. It's like a flu bug that's 768 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: gone around with his COVID or flu I don't I 769 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: don't think COVID twice in a month. But well, let's right, 770 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: let's rise out of that and go up. My point 771 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: in bringing it up is in the opportunities that he's 772 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: had a moment to step up, I haven't quite seen 773 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: him do no. And so to your point, I'd rather 774 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: go with a veteran like Sheffield, who at least has 775 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: familiarity with dan Quinn's defense. He's a veteran. I'd feel 776 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: a lot better with going some of those guys. You 777 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 1: kind of feel like you would want to give him. 778 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: He deserves an opportunity. Yeah, and when you want to 779 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: give it to him right now, play against Houston, play 780 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: against Jacksonville, will see what you have. If you're not there, 781 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: like a Sheffield or somebody that dan Quinn's obviously been around, 782 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: maybe that's where you work him in more against the 783 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: Eagles or something like that. But I think they want 784 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,720 Speaker 1: to see him. Hey, we'd love to see Calvin Joseph 785 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: for a full game, play that one side and see 786 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: what he can do. And we and we all know 787 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: whether they're gonna go after him. They're gonna attack him, 788 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: So we'll see what he says there. Chris Canny of 789 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: the ESPN former Dallas, I'm interested on this. When you 790 00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: tease that, I was like, oh, I haven't heard this. 791 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 1: We got here. So Canny goes on the Get Up 792 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: Show and he says the Cowboys lose to the Bucks 793 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. McCarthy is getting fired, and I tweeted 794 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: back to him. I said, oh, my goodness, my guy, 795 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: Chris Canny calls from McCarthy's firing get the Cowboys losing 796 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: the Bucks in the playoffs. I said, you know, Jerry 797 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: Jones operates in context. And then Chris hit me back 798 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: on Twitter said, yeah, I said it. Cowboys can't be 799 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: one and done two years in a row with this 800 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: kind of talent on the team. Context matters. But Jerry 801 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: ain't buying green bananas. What is the problem? What he said? 802 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: What is the problem? What he said? Well, I'll make 803 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: an argument, but well, I guess the argument is this. 804 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: Let's be honest about this now, We love what they're 805 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,919 Speaker 1: doing right now, but if they go one and done 806 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, it's not gonna be happy time because 807 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: it was not. It was not happy times last year. 808 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be happy times around here. So I 809 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: don't okay what you're doing the regular season, go twelve 810 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: and five and go thirteen and three. If they go 811 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: down there and lose to Tampa in the playoffs, all 812 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 1: bets are off on Mike McCarthy's day. I don't think 813 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: there's many coaches that would have gotten them to their 814 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: current record of nine and three. You're raising their left 815 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: point and there's not a lot of coaches that can 816 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: deal with everything that I actually is talking to Anthony 817 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 1: Barr about coming here and how different is Randall Cops. 818 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: But it is a different world here, and so I 819 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: I love, I really like Mike McCarthy. Car finish well, 820 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,720 Speaker 1: look at what Sean McVay is doing in the absence 821 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: of Matthew Stafford. Look at what the Colts are doing 822 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,240 Speaker 1: in the absence of having a guy like matt Ryan. 823 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: Credit to Mike McCarthy, say what you will, whether he delegates, 824 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: whether how much credit you want to give to him. 825 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 1: He's got two winning seasons, he's gotten into the playoffs. 826 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: And Jane, that's when I talk about the context right 827 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: of this. Did you simply say, oh, you lost Tampa Bay? 828 00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: How did you lose? What's the context? Hard to win everything? 829 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying Chris Kenny's gonna 830 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,320 Speaker 1: be wrong. What I'm saying is Jerry will operate in 831 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: the context. Lord knows, he kept figuring out ways to 832 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: give Jason Garrett one more than that, and and and Jason, 833 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 1: Jason and the family photo. He wasn't a family photo. 834 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy is not. But but but again the bar 835 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: photo though, But you say that, But I think Jerry 836 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: would rather hang out Mike McCarthy. To be honest, I 837 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: understand about Stephen. My point of the relationship was longer 838 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: and deeper. He'd wanted to give him a chance. But 839 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: but but Mike McCarthy was brought here to be better 840 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: than Jason Garrett. To go one and done, even if 841 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: you go back to back playoffs, is not better than 842 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett. Okay. He was brought here to take the 843 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: cowboy to the next level, to go and lose in 844 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: the first round, to a bad type of Bay team. 845 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 1: I don't care what the context is. You know, people 846 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: that toime Bay team is bad Tom Brady even when 847 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: he looked at that Saints gape. You give that guy 848 00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 1: just two minutes in a game. Saints are awful. The 849 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: other factor in here, there was that three points in 850 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Of the other part is who's available. 851 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: You don't just fire head coach. We just need something 852 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: new in here, hold on, get to it content. But 853 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying, if he thinks that, you say that, you 854 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: say that, but then what if what if the defense 855 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: starts looking awful? And what if they lose that game? 856 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: Because Micah Parson was that linebacker the whole time and 857 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,399 Speaker 1: you should have been a DN like, she's not gonna 858 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: be just over there. It's I'm just saying it's not 859 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 1: going to be as simple as you it's just like, okay, 860 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: well then he's gone and gone. There There is, like 861 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: we said, there is context, who like, how did they 862 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: lose the game. What's going on? Where's the team going? Why? 863 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: Why is this happening? Like there's there's it's not gonna 864 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: be just okay, what's the final score? Okay? There, Mike, 865 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: get your stuff. You're right, there's no right or wrong 866 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: answers here. The bottom line is this, and I've said 867 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,439 Speaker 1: it all year. We've talked about this year. I've talked 868 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: to other people about this. Mike has done a great job. 869 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: Jerry the game, and we're talking already about Mike mccarthurin 870 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: point he brought this up, love j but no, he 871 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: didn't bring you. Brought it and brought it to the show. Okay, So, 872 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: but the bottom the bottom line is this. No matter 873 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: what happens this season, the playoffs is what matters. Okay, 874 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: Mike talked about it. The players talked about this, because 875 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: what happens in the playoffs if you go one and done, 876 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: all bets are off. He I'm not saying it's a 877 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: guarantee fires, but there's no guarantees coming back either if 878 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: you go one and done the play Chris Kenny is 879 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 1: not wrong. Okay, Okay, And again, Mike has done a 880 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: great job. I like how he's I like how he 881 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: handled the media. Stay here. What if another team wanted Mike. 882 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: Mike loves it here, his family loves it. I think 883 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: Mike's having a great time. I mean, we just we've 884 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: talked to him every I mean, I wish you coming 885 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: on Fridays. We talked every Friday after but you I 886 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: know you work too much and you do too much. 887 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: I get up at six in the morningful game that 888 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: I know you can't come on Fridays. Understand, But were 889 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: talking about Mike has settled in here he is, But 890 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: if you don't think there's another team that's calling it Mike, 891 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 1: Mike likes Dallas, his family love you Dallas. And you 892 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: know what, this is a great stopping point because Jane's 893 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 1: got her podcast coming up the top of the hour. 894 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: We are at a time. So thank you, Clarence Hill. 895 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 1: The four worth Star Telegram John m showed, I appreciate 896 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: your your five percent. You got to get in. I'm 897 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: sorry for the Atlantic And that's Jane slaying the NFL media. 898 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 1: You've got another forty five minutes in which you could 899 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: dominate and on the show, since it's just a scirls 900 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 1: talking on, you know what, I would like to see 901 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: Clarence step into there, step in our world. Clarence. Yeah, Clarence, 902 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 1: you stepped right on in exclusively. It's the media match. 903 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,240 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow right here on Dallas Cowboys 904 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,320 Speaker 1: dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas 905 00:44:46,360 --> 00:45:00,919 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club ass