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<v Speaker 1>What's up? Everybody? Welcome into a Monday edition of Texans

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<v Speaker 1>All Access from the Hyundai Texans Radio studio. Hopefully you

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<v Speaker 1>all had a great weekend like Steph Curry dropping hole

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<v Speaker 1>in ones on par threes, whining golf tournaments. We are

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<v Speaker 1>the Steph Curry of your radio dial, John Harris alongside

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<v Speaker 1>the Voice of Texas Mark Vanamirre.

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<v Speaker 2>How'd you like that Steph Curry from deed?

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<v Speaker 3>That was awesome? He dunked it was terrific. He dunked

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<v Speaker 3>it and pure joy. That was great to see. I

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<v Speaker 3>love that tournament. I think they should do two or

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<v Speaker 3>three more of those in the off season of the NFL. So,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, everybody's got different offseasons. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how you coordinate.

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<v Speaker 1>All that with the owners meetings. Not a bad idea

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<v Speaker 1>Spring meetings. They put in a place where you can golf,

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<v Speaker 1>NFL golf tournament. Put it on live mic, everybody up.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be awesome. The coaches the match, do you remember?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this the match was what a week and

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<v Speaker 1>a half ago. It was Mahomes and Kelsey versus Clay

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<v Speaker 1>and Steph and they're talking trashed or getting after each other.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hilarious. Yeah, I mean, it's absolutely awesome. It's some

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<v Speaker 1>of the it's it's really really good. I didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>all of it, but I saw enough of it to know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I want to keep watching this.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody's watching that Quarterback series now, so you're seeing a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of stuff about much as you've seen just one episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I'm way behind it. Pretty good, it is good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good. I mean, listen, you're not gonna get everything

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<v Speaker 1>broken down, but you're gonna hear more play calls than

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever heard in your life. Yep, and they will

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<v Speaker 1>blow your ever loving mind. They will blow your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking to you, I'm just talking to people

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<v Speaker 1>in general, like, wait a pass is that long? Yep? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>Wait till you hear, Wait till you hear. Kirk Cousins

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<v Speaker 1>called one of the plays for the Vikings all the

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<v Speaker 1>way through. It's it's it's incredible. It's really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>It goes to show you how hard it is to

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<v Speaker 3>play this position. And a guy like Cousins can last

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<v Speaker 3>as long as he has. And I know he takes

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of heat. He's won a lot of football games. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>He's not perfect. We all know that he's won a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of football games. I think this is particularly good

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<v Speaker 3>for the Vikings fans to see that he's an actual

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<v Speaker 3>human being. That helps too. And the guy who made

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest play in the last how many years of

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<v Speaker 3>Vikings history, Actually he's in this building. That's Case Keenum.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, and Diggs obviously is a huge part of that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm saying the guy who pulled the trigger.

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<v Speaker 1>Off, you could say Case that's a top ten play

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<v Speaker 1>all time NFL given the situations. It's playoffs, it ends

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<v Speaker 1>it's a walk off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, it's huge.

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<v Speaker 2>Although they did bring him back out to kick the

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<v Speaker 2>extra point.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking about Vikings history. I know they haven't

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<v Speaker 3>been to the super Bowl since the seventies. They went

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<v Speaker 3>to four and lost them all kids, but Grant was

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<v Speaker 3>the head of playing there wrong way. Marshall was a fit.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe their most famous play ever Johnny and negative. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a negative that might have been their most famous play

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<v Speaker 3>ever till the miracle. That says a lot about Case. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he was able to execute that thing. Of course, I

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<v Speaker 3>did a training camp position break down. You want to

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<v Speaker 3>check it out on quarterbacks, and I just start doing

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<v Speaker 3>every player. As I go through and I get the

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<v Speaker 3>case and I'm writing about Case and as I'm writing

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<v Speaker 3>about it, like, man, this guy's seen it all.

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<v Speaker 1>He's done it all. I mean, he has those two

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<v Speaker 1>years and seventeen with the Vikings and he goes in

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen to the Broncos and he through for about thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred yards at the Broncos. I mean, we saw

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<v Speaker 1>him that night. He's bringing them back. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>McManus doesn't kick it wide right, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>They make that kick. That's not an impossible kick, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not he makes that kick. Case Keenum beats the textall

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<v Speaker 3>that kick flew.

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<v Speaker 1>Over my head.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark it flew.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we all know the famous story of my

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<v Speaker 1>mic being left up. But I'm screaming wide right. But

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<v Speaker 1>that bat flew over my head and that was from

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<v Speaker 1>fifty plus, so he had enough leg he just missed it.

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<v Speaker 2>He makes that Broncos get another win.

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<v Speaker 3>It.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it just didn't work in Denver for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 1>But it made me think about Case and and just

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<v Speaker 1>his journey and what he's what he's done. This is

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<v Speaker 1>his twelfth season. He technically it's his eleventh. From a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from a games service standpoint because his first

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<v Speaker 1>year was all in practice squad. That's track at twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>so he didn't get on the fiel les twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he has that, you know, statistically put up

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<v Speaker 1>some decent numbers at thirteen, but then get a win.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he's got to come out of a deer blinded story,

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<v Speaker 1>he told us, which was great. He wins the last

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<v Speaker 1>two games of fourteen. Then it's moving around to the Rams,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's moving around to the Vikings, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it's to Denver and it's to Washington, et cetera. It's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing the journey he's been on. And I start thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about his value to this team, and I know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people put them on the field, he'd be great.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, look, cas is thirty you know, five thirty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, it's this is not designed for Case to

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<v Speaker 1>go out on a field and play seventeen weeks. Step

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<v Speaker 1>in when there's an opportunity where there's you know, somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody gets hurt, something happens, he's got to step in. Okay, great,

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<v Speaker 1>but not to be a seventeen week starter, not not

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<v Speaker 1>for this team.

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<v Speaker 3>Are still there are a lot of people that don't

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<v Speaker 3>understand that right now, some people will assume that he's

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<v Speaker 3>the guy or the backup, right, and maybe he ends

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<v Speaker 3>up being the backup here. I don't know. But the

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<v Speaker 3>way the reps were going on OTAs and this was

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<v Speaker 3>well publicized, it didn't appear to be the case.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing, Mark, and I think this about Case,

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<v Speaker 1>Keenan and there might be a few others, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think Case has immense value to this team beyond anything

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<v Speaker 1>he does on the field. And I think that goes

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<v Speaker 1>without saying in some sense, but I think you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have to say it. You kind of have to

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<v Speaker 1>look at it and go, look, you're gonna get if

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<v Speaker 1>you have players on your team that don't set foot

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<v Speaker 1>on the field, but yet they give you tremendous value.

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<v Speaker 1>Do their leadership, just the way that they're able to

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<v Speaker 1>help younger players, the way they can help a coaching

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<v Speaker 1>staff that's young and new. Yeah, I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>Case is older than drot Oh yeah, Drawd Johnson. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Those guys could talk about a lot. Of course, he's older,

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<v Speaker 3>Wait is he close? It's close to those But because

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<v Speaker 3>Tannehill's rookie year was well and so was cases and

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<v Speaker 3>Jerrod and Tannehill were in college together, so there, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's close. It's close, but it feels like he's older.

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<v Speaker 1>Right because case has seen some things and done some things.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're gonna get in some coaches a little bit later.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the guys that case Key ended up throwing

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<v Speaker 1>football to was DeAndre Hopkins.

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<v Speaker 3>I think his first touchdown passing that Kansas City game

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<v Speaker 3>Week seven, twenty thirteen was again was to Hopkins.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopkins. We're gonna talk about the DeAndre Hopkins because he

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<v Speaker 1>is now a member of the Tennessee Titans.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>We do this every now and again on Mondays sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>during the season because there's so much going on. Your

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<v Speaker 1>gut reaction when you saw the news this weekend at

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<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Hopkins is going to make his way to Nashville

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<v Speaker 1>as a member of the Titans, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate seeing this for a variety of reasons. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't like seeing I didn't like seeing Andre Johnson go

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<v Speaker 3>to the Colts and then the Titans. I don't like

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<v Speaker 3>seeing DeAndre Hopkins go to the Titans in the division

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<v Speaker 3>Colts Titans. Even Jazz I wouldn't want to see it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like to see it. So from that standpoint,

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<v Speaker 3>I hate it. I want him in the NFC. If

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<v Speaker 3>he's not going to be here, I want him somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 3>far away. Now wend would have been preferable to me,

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<v Speaker 3>just as a Texans guy, right, I want to see

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<v Speaker 3>him not here, not around us, because it is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of painful. Look, I love DeAndre Hopkins. He was a

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<v Speaker 3>beloved player here. He was tremendous. I really enjoyed talking

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<v Speaker 3>with him. You did, too, You talked to with him

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<v Speaker 3>more than I did. But every time I've talked with him,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I thanked him three or four times just

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<v Speaker 3>for his service while he was here. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>your service. Thank you for all those touchdowns and amazing

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<v Speaker 3>catches and look, doing what I do. I'm really grateful

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<v Speaker 3>for a guy like DeAndre Hopkins. He was a spectacular

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<v Speaker 3>player who made just mind numbing catches, catch after catch,

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<v Speaker 3>made it look easy. Just a great player. And now

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<v Speaker 3>he's in Nashville. I don't know how good he is anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's still pretty good, all right. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what it's going to mean for them. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's a little over what he might mean for them.

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<v Speaker 3>But it could be really good. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>who knows, we'll see, we'll we're all gonna we're all

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<v Speaker 3>gonna watch it together. Texans don't face the Titans till

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<v Speaker 3>very late in the year twice, right, so we'll see

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<v Speaker 3>what they are like at that point. Who's playing quarterback?

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<v Speaker 3>How is he doing? But my gut reaction, Johnny was

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I wish it was the Patriots of the

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<v Speaker 3>two because those are the two jockeying for a position

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<v Speaker 3>to get him. I was hoping it was gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>New England instead of Tennessee. But overall, I would prefer

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<v Speaker 3>an NFC team.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had a text threat going between you and

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<v Speaker 1>I and Deep and Drew. It was on Sunday, and

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<v Speaker 1>Drew just texted with the Twitter notice, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we do. We see things on Twitter, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we send it to each other and we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>remark on it in different things. And Drew just said, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get that. I felt like the damn part

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<v Speaker 1>was more about him going to Tennessee than it was

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<v Speaker 1>he's not in here, you know, because there was some

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, oh, he's got he can come back to Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>They need a receiver. This is a big fit. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>always work like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are a lot of things that are

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<v Speaker 1>that are going on with this this ball club, and

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<v Speaker 1>you already had committed to Robert Woods. I think Robert's

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<v Speaker 1>your oldest receiver. I believe who else will be older. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the oldest receiver. I just had to say it

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<v Speaker 1>out loud to make it make sense. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that you could have done another one. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know you know people like, well, you didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>go sign Wood, you could have signed Hopall. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't know Hopkins was gonna be available until around

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<v Speaker 1>draft time, so you didn't know that was gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>the case. So you've also got some young dudes. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta find some stuff out about. Look this, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where John Metchi stands in in in his arrival

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<v Speaker 1>re arrival from you know, dealing with leukemia, where whether

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting clear or not. I know that was the

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<v Speaker 1>talk at the end of OTA's and Minie camp. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that happens. He's gonna need reps. Tank Dell is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna need reps. Nico Collins has really if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at it this way, look at his games played. He's

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<v Speaker 1>basically played one season was like he played one season

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<v Speaker 1>and then the other he didn't, and he wasn't even

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<v Speaker 1>fully healthy for that season. So Nico needs all the

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<v Speaker 1>reps he can. Robert Woods knows this offense, he still

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<v Speaker 1>needs reps to get in a synergy with CJ. Stroud

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<v Speaker 1>and with Davis Mills as opposed to what he was

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<v Speaker 1>with last year in Tennessee and even before that with

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams. The receivers need all the reps they can get.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know there's there's some frustration from Texans fans

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<v Speaker 1>that I kind of noticed on Twitter. I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 1>just wasn't the right spot in the right time for

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<v Speaker 1>Hop And I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the guy, absolutely love him. We were at Applebee's.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, we had like six to eight of us

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<v Speaker 1>out for dinner and Appleby's the Greenbrier. We had a

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<v Speaker 1>big old dinner and he went to Applebee's to go get.

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<v Speaker 3>His food a takeout.

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<v Speaker 1>He went to get a takeout and he could just

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<v Speaker 1>waved at us. He came over stop, shook everybody's hands. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks us for you know, for being there. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, man, there weren't a lot of players that

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<v Speaker 1>would have that would have done that he did. I

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<v Speaker 1>said a soft spot in my heart for him, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hate the fact that we will see him. But

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<v Speaker 1>then again, you said it, we don't play it. Titans

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<v Speaker 1>still December seventeenth. There's a lot of football between now

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<v Speaker 1>and then. And I remember when when Andre Johnson went

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<v Speaker 1>to the Colts in fifteen, and I remember thinking, just

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<v Speaker 1>I love Dre, but fandud Luck's not the quarterback. How

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<v Speaker 1>good is that gonna look every single week? Well, on

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday night, it look good against us and it's stunk.

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<v Speaker 1>But then late in the season, Yeah, we went to Indianapolis.

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<v Speaker 1>We had arguably our greatest road win ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Was he playing that day?

0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Andre played that day?

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<v Speaker 3>Hassle Beck still playing.

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<v Speaker 1>And hassle Beck, now with a clean diaper, was not

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<v Speaker 1>getting into football.

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe he needs Tazuma's revenge to play well. At mean,

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<v Speaker 3>not Andre, but hassle Beck at that stad.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the next year he goes to Tennessee and

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<v Speaker 1>We're like, oh my god, he went to Tennessee. We

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<v Speaker 1>won the division both years. Now, I'm not saying Texas

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna win the division this year, but I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying if Andre Johnson can go somewhere and we can

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<v Speaker 1>play against him, If JJ Watt can go somewhere, we

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<v Speaker 1>can play against him, We'll survive this. And again, I

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<v Speaker 1>love Hop, I love Hop a ton but and there's

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<v Speaker 1>been a lot to talk about. Well, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>playing with Tannell, he's playing with with Will Levis. Well

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<v Speaker 1>he's had to do the first career. Yeah, but Hop

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<v Speaker 1>isn't the same guy that he was early in his career.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's a different gasp and banged up, doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>quite the juice he used to have when he was

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<v Speaker 1>playing with the guys that you know, weren't great non

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<v Speaker 1>pro bowlers. It's a little different. He's really gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>that guy again for Tennessee because who else is going

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<v Speaker 1>to knock him out of there?

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<v Speaker 2>Trailing Burks, Nick Westburog Keenan.

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<v Speaker 1>I like Burks. I think Burke's is gonna end up

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<v Speaker 1>being a solid number one. But he in there yet,

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<v Speaker 1>not especially after last year. So from all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what happens. But I'm not totally convinced. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not one hundred percent convinced that we actually face him

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<v Speaker 1>twice this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, No, I'm not either, and he's had some injury issues.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll be the first one to tell you that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>They obviously understand what they're getting. As far as an

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<v Speaker 3>individual goes Tim Kelly, Mike Rabel, They've been around him,

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<v Speaker 3>all the other guys on the Titans in their organization

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<v Speaker 3>who have been Houston Texans, they get it. It just

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<v Speaker 3>feels in some ways because they're gonna win the oiler

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<v Speaker 3>uniforms one game this year, one game this year, and

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<v Speaker 3>they get DeAndre Hopkins. It just feels like the Titans

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<v Speaker 3>organization is obsessed with Houston. And sometimes that's a positive

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<v Speaker 3>Rabel and friends, I mean, they've done some good things

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<v Speaker 3>there relatively, but sometimes it's a negative. Right, got to

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<v Speaker 3>get Andre Johnson? Really do you really have to get

0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Andre Johnson at that point in his career? And look,

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<v Speaker 3>I wish Andre played here forever. It didn't happen. I

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<v Speaker 3>wish he played forever. Whatever didn't happen. You think about

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<v Speaker 3>all the other acquisitions they've made, and they've moved on

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<v Speaker 3>from many of them as well, But think about this.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of things about this acquisition. ESPN had a

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<v Speaker 3>great stat I was in the cafeteria this morning. They

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<v Speaker 3>flashed it up on the screen, and it was pretty

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<v Speaker 3>funny because they had Titans organization members all time receptions

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<v Speaker 3>t res yes, so it's Hopkins over seventy, Vrabel double figures.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody else more than five. I think Chris Moore might

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<v Speaker 3>have been the leader with five. That's unbelievable, Chris, Johnny,

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<v Speaker 3>that's unbelievable. It is that before this acquisition, Rabel had

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<v Speaker 3>more career touchdown receptions in trick plays than any member

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<v Speaker 3>of the Titans organization.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost all of them combined.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, twelve crazy well and by the way, Verbe played linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>not tight ends.

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<v Speaker 2>Got an offensive position. He played linebacker.

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<v Speaker 3>He caught one here as a chief against the Houston texts.

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<v Speaker 1>He yes, as a chief.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that was he was at that point, Yeah, must

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<v Speaker 3>have been that one.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't ten ten, it was it was later, because

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<v Speaker 1>there was seven. He was still at the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 3>They were here in ten when the Texans beat them

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<v Speaker 3>and went four and two at the time. I got

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<v Speaker 3>to look that up.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about Frabel a little bit later, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It's that's funny. The other one is NFL memes, and

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<v Speaker 3>they are so funny. They're so good. I think even

0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.480
<v Speaker 3>the league office has like memes because it's just such

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<v Speaker 3>great comic relief. But they had the Antonio Brown ripping

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<v Speaker 3>his shirt off video at the Metal Lands. They had that,

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<v Speaker 3>and that said DeAndre Hopkins after catching passes from Will

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<v Speaker 3>Levis and Ryan Tannehill for two weeks, and I thought

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<v Speaker 3>that was hilarious. But that's not d Hop. D Hop's

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<v Speaker 3>not one to complain and be publicly demonstrative that he's

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<v Speaker 3>not getting the ball enough or in the right way

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. But I would imagine that behind closed doors,

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna say, listen, it'll be better if we do

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<v Speaker 3>this or do that. He's gonna have feedback, input, whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he's DeAndre Hopkins. He's an accomplished receiver, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the very best who's ever played the game. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>care what the numbers say. That is a fact. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure how this is going to play out.

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<v Speaker 3>As long as Tannehill's healthy, they can run the ball

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<v Speaker 3>a bit. There's gonna be so much opportunity. But if

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<v Speaker 3>Tannehill doesn't play that well, the line doesn't pan out.

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<v Speaker 3>Because they're rebuilding it. Levis ends up playing. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna catch his because he's DeAndre Hopkins with a

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<v Speaker 3>catch radius the size of Rhode Island.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's gonna work out by enlarge though,

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<v Speaker 3>big picture wise for the Titans.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think maybe they're just looking at a

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<v Speaker 2>stop gap. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Titans are very confusing because there are

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<v Speaker 1>times when I go, well, okay, they must be quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote tanking to possibly get Kayleb Williams. Well, then they

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<v Speaker 1>draft Will Levis. Oh okay, well is that the young

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<v Speaker 1>guy they want to groom. So it's like some on

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<v Speaker 1>some hands. On one hand, it looks like they're trying to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll just kind of mail this season in,

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<v Speaker 1>but then we'll start a new Hey, look at some

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<v Speaker 1>of the other moves. Well they reupp to with Jeffrey Simmons, Like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they paid him a lot of money to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>which I wish they wouldn't, But it just feels odd.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels weird. It's like, are they all in to

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<v Speaker 1>go win games or are they set up to be

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<v Speaker 1>nine to eight? Yet again, I just can't They're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in the land of mediocrity if you ask me,

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<v Speaker 1>I think defense is exceptional. I think the offense is

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<v Speaker 1>still mediocre because I think the offensive line is absolutely dreadful.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they can capture, if they can capture uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Derek n Best again, if DeAndre stays healthy again, then

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe if Tannehills stays healthy. Even if Tannehill is healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>I put the I put the market nine and eight.

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<v Speaker 1>I put it at nine and eight. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the water mark high water mark for them, ninety eight

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<v Speaker 1>that's well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because they're gonna have to manufacture wins and do

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<v Speaker 3>it the raable way and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>They are they are. They are literally the twenty fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>Texans and now they have DeAndre Hopkins to prove it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's gonna work out the way

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<v Speaker 3>they picture it. It is a really it's a rich

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<v Speaker 3>man's acquisition. To me, it seems strange for what they're

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<v Speaker 3>going through. They should be doing more of what the

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<v Speaker 3>Texans are doing. Hey, these young guys gotta play, gotta

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<v Speaker 3>get them seasoned. We feel like we can win some

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<v Speaker 3>games with them, right if we get hot.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know.

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<v Speaker 3>They have to feel that way because they have Derek

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<v Speaker 3>Henry approven commodity MVP candidate as a running back. If

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<v Speaker 3>they can get him going again, it all feeds off him. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>as I say this, well, maybe you know, maybe they

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<v Speaker 3>just believe. And we know their defense healthy, especially upfront,

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<v Speaker 3>can be very good, can be. So we'll see maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they can knock off the Jaguars. Maybe they're the team

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<v Speaker 3>to do it. But we're all waiting. We're all eager

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<v Speaker 3>and anxious to find out how it plays out.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw this craft done by somebody today and they said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're using the same algorithm that some Major League Baseball

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<v Speaker 1>site used to come up with things that have been very,

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<v Speaker 1>very accurate and had the Titans with eleven wins. I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you thank you for com on? I was like, no, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>And the worst part was they had the Jaguars with

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<v Speaker 1>six and a half wins.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I'm all in for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all in for it, But I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's happening unless Trevor gets banged up.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, people keep asking me, and I just I always

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<v Speaker 3>go by the history of this team and my win

0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:52.040
<v Speaker 3>projections and everything, and it even if I'm right, and

0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.240
<v Speaker 3>I've been right very often or in the neighborhood. I

0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.000
<v Speaker 3>was particularly right during those nine and seven seasons. Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>but it never happens the way you think it's gonna happen. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>you win one, you think you're gonna lose, You lose one,

0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:04.920
<v Speaker 3>you think you're gonna win, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So who knows. Trip to La to take on the

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers in nineteen, win that game on the road, turn

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<v Speaker 1>right around, play the Carolina Panthers and get beat at home. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to Kyle Allen, Yeah, to Kyle Allen, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we lost the Christian McCaffrey. Then how about Gardner Minshew

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<v Speaker 1>here almost almost got the Texans? Was it?

0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:26.399
<v Speaker 3>Fournette still at that point getting left?

0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Just stuff in Fournette six inches from the goal line.

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<v Speaker 3>He makes that two point conversion. You lose to Gardner

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<v Speaker 3>Minshew and the Jaguars at home to start.

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<v Speaker 1>This, that would have been bad. Oh, yeah, that would

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<v Speaker 1>have been Then you got to go to La to

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<v Speaker 1>take on the Chargers. Now it's a must win. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you did win, but you come out of there instead

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<v Speaker 1>of want to two you two and one, you know why,

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<v Speaker 1>You're looking good, But then you lose the call.

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<v Speaker 3>You know it is one of the things that's so

0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:52.760
<v Speaker 3>tough about this game is those kinds of things. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you made the play, and we all know it's a

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<v Speaker 3>fine line, but it's the old Van Gundy thing. You

0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.080
<v Speaker 3>can't ignore in victory what you wouldn't in defeat. You

0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.159
<v Speaker 3>have to account for that. Hey, we were in a

0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:05.679
<v Speaker 3>situation where Gardner Minshaw was about to beat us, so

0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.840
<v Speaker 3>we clearly have to improve off of that. It's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like, I'm gonna make the analogy here. It's kind

0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:14.200
<v Speaker 3>of like my golf game. Right, you hit the ball

0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:16.440
<v Speaker 3>six inches one way or to the other. Well, now

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<v Speaker 3>it's in the trap. It was gonna bounce out of

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<v Speaker 3>the trap and maybe roll out of the green, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm putting in a two putt a i could par

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<v Speaker 3>the whole or but now I'm in the sand and

0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.800
<v Speaker 3>it's a tough lie and here comes three more strokes

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe four. Right, So that's football, also, that fine line.

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<v Speaker 3>You have, one bad thing happened. Okay, this might cause

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<v Speaker 3>you to change some things that are really gonna make

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<v Speaker 3>you better, or you got away with it. Are you

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<v Speaker 3>fat and happy? Are you still adjusting? Are you taking

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<v Speaker 3>into account that you're not as good as you think

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<v Speaker 3>you are. But you are winning. Okay, let's see how

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<v Speaker 3>we can get better.

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<v Speaker 2>Happens to tennis? Two one points all it takes.

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<v Speaker 1>If you watch Joker taking on Altcraz yesterday, Man, what

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<v Speaker 1>an athletic performance that was just I mean, that's that

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<v Speaker 1>sports performance was just incredible. It was cool. So they

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<v Speaker 1>were they were so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>But Johnny, so it's four and a half hours, four

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<v Speaker 3>forty five, I'm sorry, all right. I took the little

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<v Speaker 3>kids skating and came back and still got to watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Had consume That's why I consumed it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well it's on, right, it's but here's the problem

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<v Speaker 3>with tennis. It's on and you, oh you missed that point,

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<v Speaker 3>right because you're looking away. Golf you can kind of

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<v Speaker 3>all right, I'll rewind that. I know you can rewind

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<v Speaker 3>the tennis too, But then so much has happened since,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's a hard sport to ignore or ignore just

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<v Speaker 3>to have on in the background and really enjoy it

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<v Speaker 3>at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>No doubt. But it was definitely enjoyable for sure. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about Mike Vrabel a little bit, did

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<v Speaker 1>throwing Doug Peterson a little bit PFF, excuse me, PFT.

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Talk has ranked their top ten coaches in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. They're up through six. Ten through six to

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<v Speaker 1>have to name their top five. CBS Sports is rated

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<v Speaker 1>one through thirty two. They are remarkably different. Next on

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<v Speaker 1>Texans All Access, Welcome back to this Monday edition of

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<v Speaker 1>Texans All Access from the Texans Radio studio. Mark and

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<v Speaker 1>John with you, and Mark pointed this out to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I added another piece to this. Mike Florio

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<v Speaker 1>is doing his coaching rankings, and he's just doing a

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<v Speaker 1>top ten of the coaching rankings, and he's not gotten

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<v Speaker 1>all the way through the top ten, but he's got

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<v Speaker 1>five and two of them come from the the AFC South.

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<v Speaker 1>The five that we think are not listed, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to those in a second. But here's what Mike Florio

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<v Speaker 1>has for best coaches in the NFL. And we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>compare this to what Cody Benjamin did on CBS Sports

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<v Speaker 1>because Cody did one through thirty two. So it means

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<v Speaker 1>our pal Demico Ryans is named in that listing. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a little surprised by his ranking, and I'll we'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you the number a little bit later, but Here's

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<v Speaker 1>what Florio has right now. Ted best coach in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Peterson, Jaguars, ninth best, Mike Rabel Tennessee Titans, number eight,

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco forty nine Ers head coach Kyle Shanahan, number

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<v Speaker 1>seven Rams head coach Sean McVay, and number six Broncos

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<v Speaker 1>head coach Sean Payton.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw those five, Mark, I had a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of an issue.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we had a bit of an issue. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>have an issue? Let me guess here? Does Rabel belong

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<v Speaker 3>in that company? He's been to one conference championship game,

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<v Speaker 3>He's coming off a losing season. What have you done

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<v Speaker 3>seven in a row? What have you done for me lately?

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<v Speaker 3>Does figure in? Because I know I just firmly believe

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<v Speaker 3>that when his top five comes out, and we can

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<v Speaker 3>guess who the top five is for Florio. He hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>named him yet, but when they come out, Belichick's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to be number one. I think he'll put read

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<v Speaker 3>number one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'll be number one, Andy Reid, Bill Belichick,

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers coach Mike Tomlin, Ravens coach John Harbaugh, Eagles coach

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Sirianni. At least that's what we surmise. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I start with you there though, in that top

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<v Speaker 3>five in no particular order, is there anybody in the

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<v Speaker 3>five that does not belong in that five?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you want to talk about what have

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<v Speaker 1>you done for me lately? I mean John Harbaugh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And if you want to push push down up a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little bit Tomlin, it feels like Tomlin a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>Belichick a little bit see Tomlin, Yeah, I guess so,

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<v Speaker 3>but Tomlin especially, it feels like if you criticize Tomlin,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like criticizing the Pope in the middle of Vatican City,

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<v Speaker 3>right true, no matter where you are, because everybody has

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<v Speaker 3>such great respect for him, and rightfully so. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>last year he did a hell of a job breaking

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<v Speaker 3>in a new quarterback, and he also did a hell

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<v Speaker 3>of a job squeezing whatever football life that was left

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<v Speaker 3>out of Ben Roethlisberger.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't have much an issue with Tomlin

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<v Speaker 1>as I do Harball. But if you're going, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going on that, and you know they want some games

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<v Speaker 1>in Baltimore, don' think there's any question. I think John

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<v Speaker 1>is a tremendous.

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<v Speaker 3>Making the playoffs last year was a pretty good achievement

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<v Speaker 3>considering Lamar Jackson's health.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But here's kind of my this is, this is

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<v Speaker 1>my issue to have harball head of Kyle Shanahan. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I know Kyle's not perfect and he had a run

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<v Speaker 1>there where it was it was a little dicey, But

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<v Speaker 1>they've gone to the NFC Championship game in the last

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<v Speaker 1>two years. He's thought to be, if not the best

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<v Speaker 1>play caller in the league a teen and Andy reid

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<v Speaker 1>Off it's play caller.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to give him credit for that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's got a roster that has been built up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Kyle shann has a really good coach

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to well is this guy the best?

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<v Speaker 1>You asked me this a lot of times. You know

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<v Speaker 1>who's better? Yeah? I always think about this. In one

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<v Speaker 1>game scenario, with the same talent on each side, which

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<v Speaker 1>coach do I want? Unfortunately, I would say Frabel. I

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<v Speaker 1>would want Frabel over Shanhan number of these guys over

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<v Speaker 1>a number of these guys, I would want Frabel because

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<v Speaker 1>I think Vrabel is going to get the most out

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<v Speaker 1>of whatever he has, and if he's got high end talent,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna get even more if he's got low end talent.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's the old saying, he's gonna make good great,

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna make great, elite. He's gonna make elite championship level,

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<v Speaker 1>or however it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>But Rabel is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy that I I want, I want leading that team.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's I think he's an incredible football coach, and that

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<v Speaker 3>roster has not been good, hence Ran Carthon coming in

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<v Speaker 3>to be to be the GM.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have issues with the two Shawn's Okay McVeigh,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, they went out and they obtained Now

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<v Speaker 1>McVeigh was was driving the bus. He makes the personnel

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<v Speaker 1>decisions with the Rams, I mean less sneed did all

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<v Speaker 1>the behind the scenes work. But you know McVeigh pulled

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<v Speaker 1>the trigger so that I mean, look, that's that's part

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<v Speaker 1>of being the coach of that team.

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<v Speaker 2>So you got to give him credit for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But when that talent was hurt last year, and that

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<v Speaker 1>talent was not there, when von Miller was now in

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo and Matt Stafford was hanged up, when Andrew Whitworth

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<v Speaker 1>had retired, still had Aaron Donald.

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<v Speaker 3>What did the Rams do? Not much much? They went

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<v Speaker 3>five and twelve, Johnny five and twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hm.

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<v Speaker 3>But I will say this, that's his first losing season.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give him that. I'll give him that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't have as much of McVeigh.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think it's not I don't like Shanahan being

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<v Speaker 1>in front of McVeigh. I don't like that you could

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<v Speaker 1>swap those not be okay with that. Sean Payton, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. The whole coaching search was Sean Payton this

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<v Speaker 1>past year. I'm like, I mean, I get it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he won a super Bowl that was fourteen years ago. Yeah, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy won a Super Bowl before that in twenty ten.

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<v Speaker 3>It bought him a lot of years. You win a

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<v Speaker 3>super Bowl and you keep winning even though you're not

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<v Speaker 3>winning championships, it's gonna buy you a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 1>I e.

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<v Speaker 3>Harball, Tomlin, all these guys right, if you were I'll

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<v Speaker 3>put it this way, if Tomlin and Harball had never

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<v Speaker 3>won a Super Bowl, but every other season is exactly

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<v Speaker 3>the way it is. For that you just eliminate their

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<v Speaker 3>championship year, they wouldn't have lasted this long. There's no

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<v Speaker 3>way you'd get frustrated. You'd say, no, they're not getting

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<v Speaker 3>over the top. They can't do it. They can't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gone. Peyton the same thing. Although Peyton after having

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<v Speaker 3>what three consecutive losing seasons after going to the Greenbrier,

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<v Speaker 3>which is kind of weird, but three consecutive losing seasons,

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<v Speaker 3>then he got it going again once they left the

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<v Speaker 3>Green Brier. I'm not really trying to throw the Green

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<v Speaker 3>Brier into the bus here. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like to put the Green Briers a possible future

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<v Speaker 3>Texans training camp destination because I'd like to go back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but that's my brons are going there this fall

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<v Speaker 1>or this summer.

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<v Speaker 3>Just for a little bit, right, just for a little bit, just.

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<v Speaker 1>For a little bit. Let's go to CBS. Just their list.

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<v Speaker 1>Their list is remarkably different. Let's start at ten. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not different. Doug Peterson number nine. This might be when

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<v Speaker 1>we forgot But I don't know how you squeez him in.

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Carroll number nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's he gonna take out?

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<v Speaker 1>See?

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<v Speaker 3>I could say that he might take out Tom lein

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<v Speaker 3>Ard Harbaugh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he might take one of those out. Eight,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Payton HM seven, Sean McDermott bills number six Tomlin

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<v Speaker 1>or five Harbaugh for McVeigh, three Belichick, two Shanahan and

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<v Speaker 1>one Andy Reid. Now, I would probably say I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit closer going with that ten than Flourius ten.

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<v Speaker 1>But we don't know the top five. Did Pete Carroll

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<v Speaker 1>make the make the top five? I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought Pete did a really good coaching job last year

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<v Speaker 1>without Russell Wilson. Yeah, you know, the guy that had

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<v Speaker 1>been the face of the franchise. They trade him, they

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<v Speaker 1>get a huge haul back you want to hot take,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they get into the playoffs with Gino Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>You tell me how many sizzle fires this should get

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<v Speaker 3>Pete Carroll over Kyle Shanahan.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's five and a half. That's five plus. That's five,

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<v Speaker 1>that's five plus. I'm not gonna argue with Pete Carroll

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<v Speaker 1>being one hell of football coach. I believe in Kyle Shanahan.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the way that maybe I'm a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>biased because I just heard that play Callers podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm listening to you know, how he handles things

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<v Speaker 1>and how he does things, and it just jives with

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<v Speaker 1>the way that I think about football. So maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's that. But Kyle Shanahan the last couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>gone to NFC Championship game, went to the super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen, so he went to the super Bowl nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>and then twenty one and twenty two, he gets the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC Championship Game. They lose this one because they're on

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<v Speaker 1>their fifth quarterback. Yeah, he turned Rock Party into Brock

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<v Speaker 1>freaking Party.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I think hand but he never had the

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<v Speaker 3>stability at quarterback that Pete Carroll has had with Russell

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<v Speaker 3>Wilson going good. Now, you have to give Carol a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of credit for that, but he hasn't. He's done

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<v Speaker 3>it one year without him done it, meaning make the playoffs.

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 3>Shanahan six years, three losing seasons, three winning seasons, but

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<v Speaker 3>the winning seasons have been really good. Yeah, And that's

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<v Speaker 3>the thing I do think, and I thought previously that

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 3>he was a little over inflated, but getting to the

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 3>conference championship game the year before last and especially last

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<v Speaker 3>year like you brought it out with Brock Purdy is

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 3>super impressive. But I think Pete Carroll is almost as

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<v Speaker 3>good as it gets because you look at his record

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 3>over the years, Johnny, it is incredibly impressive. He had

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<v Speaker 3>the one losing season in twenty twenty one. Everything else

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<v Speaker 3>since getting in Seattle, since getting Wilson has been a

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 3>winning campaign, if not a super Bowl campaign. He won

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<v Speaker 3>a super Bowl, lost to Super Bowl. Hey, maybe he's

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 3>one of those guys like I poured it out. He

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<v Speaker 3>lost to Super Bowl in twenty fourteen on the interception

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 3>by Malcolm Butler. Since then, he hasn't made it to

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 3>the conference championship, but he's made a lot of playoff appearances.

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<v Speaker 3>He's made what six playoff appearances, hasn't won a ton

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 3>of playoff games, but a lot of winning seasons, only

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<v Speaker 3>one losing season. Had he not have those Super bowls,

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<v Speaker 3>which I get is a big exception, you'd be saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>he can't get over the top.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got to go.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like that Harbaugh, Tomlin, that category of

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 3>guys who like and Peyton as well, you know who.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, you won a super Bowl a long time ago,

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<v Speaker 3>but we're gonna wait because we know you can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>On CBS Sports, yeah, they have raybo at thirteen, they

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<v Speaker 1>have Syrian on at twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty low.

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>And they went they had the Florida eleven. So it

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<v Speaker 1>feels a little bit like experience. Yeah, played a big role,

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<v Speaker 1>but why have did you say the number one guy

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<v Speaker 1>yet and you Reid?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Why have Reid and Shanahana had a Belichick? Then?

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<v Speaker 2>Come on? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, why are you slamming Belichick for not doing

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 3>well lately? He made the playoffs with mac Jones Mac

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 3>jones first year, had one bad year with mac Jones,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the year before that obviously Cam Newton. It

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 3>didn't work out in Brady's first year out of the building.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not buying this complete argument, but I can see

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 1>people saying, look, how good is Belichick without Brady? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So I'm not buying it.

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:57.719
<v Speaker 1>But if you go just purely on numbers, how good

0:32:57.760 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>has he been without Brady in the last three years?

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 1>He's without Brady and again he's without Brady at twenty

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty three, So how good is he without braidining.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is a very important year to determine that.

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Not that they're loaded at quarterback because they have Mac

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 3>Joness and animal see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>And number three, number three ranked OC in the league

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 1>with Bill O'Brien, So they have him, And I mean

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I say that partly in cheek, but yeah, partly tongue

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 1>watch and cheek.

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<v Speaker 3>But supposed to be. And we went over the OCAs

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 3>and we thought at that point, we thought, but then, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>with all the turnover at the offensive coordinator position. There's

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 3>a lot of I hear a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 3>just don't understand the history of the league though, And

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 3>when you have these arguments, Belichick did win a playoff

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 3>game without Brady in Cleveland. Yes, he had Vinnie right,

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<v Speaker 3>so long ago, people, I know, before the internet, It

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 3>was before the It was in ninety four. There was

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 3>a internet. There was Commodore sixty four, aol America online. Anyway,

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 3>he beat Bill Parcells and Drew Bloodsoe in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>He did very much. So, all right, where do you

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>think Dimico comes in at one through thirty two?

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, you sounded surprise, So I would bet it's sort

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.760
<v Speaker 3>of high, like twenty four or something.

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh good, twenty five, twenty five, Now I start feel

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>good about it. He's ahead one ahead of Robert sala As.

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>At twenty six. He is a few ahead Arthur Smith.

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 1>I think Arthur's a better coach than they gave him

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>credit for he's five in front of Josh McDaniels, McDaniels

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>at thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, McDaniels, what have you done for me? Ever as

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<v Speaker 3>a head coach?

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Ganne at thirty one, Matty Eberflus thirty two. Then

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, that's pretty good. Guess there's one

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:37.800
<v Speaker 1>spot ahead of Demiko Ryans think Indianapolis.

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 3>So Shane Steiken, yes, is going to get the nod

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 3>over Tomico.

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<v Speaker 2>That feels why, like why, really why?

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe maybe it's this Super Bowl appearance

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>as an offensive coordinator with the Chargers. They got the

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>most out of Justin Herbert and then they go to

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia and now he's got to do it.

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 2>So maybe there's some of that, I guess.

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 1>But then you gotta give to Migo credit for his

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 1>defenses in San Francisco and.

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:06.319
<v Speaker 3>All this is speck anyway, right, These guys have never

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 3>coached the game as a head coach. It is fun

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 3>to rank them, But next year we're gonna have a

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 3>lot of body of work to look at, at least a

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 3>little body of work relatives with some of some of

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:16.719
<v Speaker 3>these other guys who have been coaching for two decades

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:17.359
<v Speaker 3>or more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Mike McDaniel for the Dolphins at eighteen, Kevin o'c

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 1>college seventeen, Frank Reich comes into sixteen, and this is

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>one I would I know, it's only one year, so

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:31.800
<v Speaker 1>there's not a body of work I and part of

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>it is because I don't know, maybe I feel a

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 1>little bit embarrassed. I thought the Giants were gonna absolutely

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 1>stink last year. I thought they were gonna be awful.

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jones, like Dables, a good coach, but got them

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 1>to the playoffs and beat.

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota at Minnesota at Minnesota. Yah.

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 1>They got housed the next week by the Eagles in

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 1>their division. Brian Dables really good football coaching, a really

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 1>good head coach. He's in at fifteen. It's probably about right.

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Give him another couple of years and see what he

0:35:57.320 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>can do. And I don't know if Daniel Jones ever

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:04.720
<v Speaker 1>ends up being that guy for them, but that's.

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 2>He's a he's a I was really impressed.

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>They didn't really do a ton to us where I went, like,

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:11.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, scheme wise, this it was just the fact

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that they took care of business against us and knew, okay,

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:17.360
<v Speaker 1>And this is the one thing that Belichick gets a

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of credit for, and we've give him a credit

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 1>for because Bill O'Brian just tell us all the time

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>that in the first quarter, in the first quarter that

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Belichick would walk over to Obi and say, Hey, this

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 1>is this is a running kind of game. This is

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna be an aired out kind of game. This is

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a thirty seven to thirty four kind of games.

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 1>So make sure and and they will seem to have

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:36.439
<v Speaker 1>that kind of figured out, like what kind of game

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the Giants needed to play to win?

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<v Speaker 3>Very parcels Ian, Yes, very much so, very nice fit

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:43.320
<v Speaker 3>in New York. He went to high school in Western

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 3>New York near Buffalo. There's something about him when you

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 3>see him, you feel like that's a good fit. Gable winning.

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>It just's gonna be a good right for them.

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 3>And I'm glad we don't have to play them this year,

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 3>but you know we'll see like, oh.

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:58.839
<v Speaker 1>Man watching Dexter Lawrence not having to play him. Oh

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>thank god, oh man, that was a murderers row that

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>we were facing from the NFC East last year. So

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:07.840
<v Speaker 1>thankfully we don't have to face them, but we'll face others,

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 1>including Mike Rabels, Guy Jeffrey Simmons.

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:11.919
<v Speaker 2>All right, we get back. We'll go round the league.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight new news.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll touch on the other side right here on Texans

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<v Speaker 1>All Access. What's happened everybody? Welcome back to this Monday

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 1>edition of Texans All Access. I'm your host, John Harris,

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Football on out sideline Report. Appreciate you being with me

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 1>as we are nine days from Mark and I going

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<v Speaker 1>live at eight am. That's a Wednesday, July twenty six,

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 1>as we kick off Texans training camp twenty twenty three.

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:39.399
<v Speaker 2>Cannot wait, cannot wait for that to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, it's go around the league and the theme

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>of the first segment was DeAndre Hopkins AFC South. The

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:49.280
<v Speaker 1>theme of the second segment was hey coaches in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>The third segment is all about the running backs and

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not good news. Three running backs were tagged, meaning

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 1>they got the franchise tag Cowboys Tony Pollard, Giant Saquon

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Barkley and the Raiders Josh Jacobs. They had until three

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:12.319
<v Speaker 1>o'clock Local time four o'clock Eastern time to get a

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.360
<v Speaker 1>long term deal done.

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 2>None of them got a deal done.

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:25.239
<v Speaker 1>All three running backs as long as they signed the

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:29.320
<v Speaker 1>franchise tender. We'll be playing this year under a one

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>year contract. And it has kicked over a hornet's nest

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 1>of so many different thoughts about NFL running backs, the

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 1>expendability of NFL running backs. I've seen a lot of

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:47.879
<v Speaker 1>people espouse their theories about NFL running backs. I think

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Matt Miller from ESPN put he would draft the running

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 1>back if he's good, give him a one year franchise deal,

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and then draft another one and go from there. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not totally opposed to that that line

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:03.800
<v Speaker 1>of thought either. My thought on running backs has always

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 1>been you ride that running back, and you ride that

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 1>running back, and if it's good, you keep riding. If

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>at some point it breaks, there are gonna be plenty

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 1>of This is a supply and demand business, and it

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 1>stinks for running backs, it really does. And there are

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that think a lot like me

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>in the league. But if you get a great one,

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Derrick Henry, Christian McCaffrey, someone of that ill keeping Dalvin Cook.

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, David's on a second contract with the Vikings.

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:32.360
<v Speaker 1>It was super successful with that second contract. When you

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>find a great one, you keep him. The key to

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 1>on a second contract has been in most cases, it's

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:41.800
<v Speaker 1>guys that give you something extra. You know, Arion Foster,

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 1>he was gonna give you sixty to sixty five catches.

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>McCaffrey one, you had eighty eight catches or ninety catches.

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 1>Dalvin Cook has always been a really good receiver out

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 1>of the backfield. So you add that extra something, that

0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 1>little I should say little catch the ball in the backfield.

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean the guy turned into a receiver, take less carries,

0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 1>play on third down, you know, have another at that

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 1>goes right along with you. And I think the Texans

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 1>sort of benefited from that line of thinking with Devin Singletary.

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 1>The Bills felt like, man, we gave this guy four

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 1>years of a lot of touches and we don't know

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 1>that we want to re up with him. Texas ended

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 1>up signing Devin Singletary, and I think it's going to

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:19.399
<v Speaker 1>be for the betterment of the twenty twenty three team

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:21.799
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully for the betterment of Devin to show that

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 1>he can do a little bit more. He can be

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:26.279
<v Speaker 1>even better in the third down game, and he can

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 1>be a great complimentary piece, side pick up, whatever you

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 1>want to call it to Damian Pierce. They can be

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 1>a one A one B sort of situation. Running Backs

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>are tricky man's and it's rough. I mean, I love

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>these guys, love the running backs that have come into

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:47.399
<v Speaker 1>the Texans room. Maybe not so much lately. I love

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 1>his guys, but they just haven't been great running backs.

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 1>But Damien's going to be up against this in a

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 1>couple of years, like, what is the value of a

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:55.759
<v Speaker 1>running back? What is the value of running back to

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:59.400
<v Speaker 1>that particular organization to some teams that might be a

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 1>little bit more than it is to others. And the

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys said, you know, Tony Pollard one year Raiders Giants.

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I thought the Giants might get something done with Saquon Barkley,

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>but they didn't. And it just really goes to show.

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 1>And Barker is the number two picking a twenty eighteen draft. Man,

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>it just goes to show that it is a tough,

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 1>tough business playing running back in this league. And you

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 1>wonder why it started to a passing league because a

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of guys that potentially go play running back way

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 1>back in the day, they moved out the receiver. Look

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>at what receivers are making, look at the contracts receivers

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 1>are getting It's a tough business. But three teams have

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 1>running backs on one year contracts and we'll see what

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 1>that means for the Cowboys and maybe ze Kelly. Does

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Kellytt come back to play alongside Tony Pollard one of

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the Do these guys get traded to a team that

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 1>does maybe value a running back or have some more

0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 1>money to pay a running back. It's gonna be really

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 1>interesting to watch this whole thing unfold. But as of today,

0:41:54.239 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the deadline Pollard, Barkley Jacobs, no low long term deal completed,

0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:04.760
<v Speaker 1>and that, my friends, is the show. The show is completed.

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Big thanks to Mark, to all of you for listening

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and appreciate Joe back at studio. Oh you guys, thank

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 1>you so much for listening. We'll see tomorrow and as always,

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>go Texans.