Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome into a Monday edition of Texans
Speaker 1: All Access from the Hyundai Texans Radio studio. Hopefully you
Speaker 1: all had a great weekend like Steph Curry dropping hole
Speaker 1: in ones on par threes, whining golf tournaments. We are
Speaker 1: the Steph Curry of your radio dial, John Harris alongside
Speaker 1: the Voice of Texas Mark Vanamirre.
Speaker 2: How'd you like that Steph Curry from deed?
Speaker 3: That was awesome? He dunked it was terrific. He dunked
Speaker 3: it and pure joy. That was great to see. I
Speaker 3: love that tournament. I think they should do two or
Speaker 3: three more of those in the off season of the NFL. So,
Speaker 3: I don't know, everybody's got different offseasons. I don't know
Speaker 3: how you coordinate.
Speaker 1: All that with the owners meetings. Not a bad idea
Speaker 1: Spring meetings. They put in a place where you can golf,
Speaker 1: NFL golf tournament. Put it on live mic, everybody up.
Speaker 1: It would be awesome. The coaches the match, do you remember?
Speaker 1: I mean this the match was what a week and
Speaker 1: a half ago. It was Mahomes and Kelsey versus Clay
Speaker 1: and Steph and they're talking trashed or getting after each other.
Speaker 1: It's hilarious. Yeah, I mean, it's absolutely awesome. It's some
Speaker 1: of the it's it's really really good. I didn't see
Speaker 1: all of it, but I saw enough of it to know,
Speaker 1: you know what, I want to keep watching this.
Speaker 3: Everybody's watching that Quarterback series now, so you're seeing a
Speaker 3: lot of stuff about much as you've seen just one episode.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm way behind it. Pretty good, it is good.
Speaker 1: It's good. I mean, listen, you're not gonna get everything
Speaker 1: broken down, but you're gonna hear more play calls than
Speaker 1: you've ever heard in your life. Yep, and they will
Speaker 1: blow your ever loving mind. They will blow your mind.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking to you, I'm just talking to people
Speaker 1: in general, like, wait a pass is that long? Yep? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: Wait till you hear, Wait till you hear. Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: called one of the plays for the Vikings all the
Speaker 1: way through. It's it's it's incredible. It's really cool.
Speaker 3: It goes to show you how hard it is to
Speaker 3: play this position. And a guy like Cousins can last
Speaker 3: as long as he has. And I know he takes
Speaker 3: a lot of heat. He's won a lot of football games. Okay,
Speaker 3: He's not perfect. We all know that he's won a
Speaker 3: lot of football games. I think this is particularly good
Speaker 3: for the Vikings fans to see that he's an actual
Speaker 3: human being. That helps too. And the guy who made
Speaker 3: the biggest play in the last how many years of
Speaker 3: Vikings history, Actually he's in this building. That's Case Keenum.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, and Diggs obviously is a huge part of that.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying the guy who pulled the trigger.
Speaker 1: Off, you could say Case that's a top ten play
Speaker 1: all time NFL given the situations. It's playoffs, it ends
Speaker 1: it's a walk off.
Speaker 3: Yep, it's huge.
Speaker 2: Although they did bring him back out to kick the
Speaker 2: extra point.
Speaker 3: I was thinking about Vikings history. I know they haven't
Speaker 3: been to the super Bowl since the seventies. They went
Speaker 3: to four and lost them all kids, but Grant was
Speaker 3: the head of playing there wrong way. Marshall was a fit.
Speaker 3: Maybe their most famous play ever Johnny and negative. It's
Speaker 3: a negative that might have been their most famous play
Speaker 3: ever till the miracle. That says a lot about Case. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he was able to execute that thing. Of course, I
Speaker 3: did a training camp position break down. You want to
Speaker 3: check it out on quarterbacks, and I just start doing
Speaker 3: every player. As I go through and I get the
Speaker 3: case and I'm writing about Case and as I'm writing
Speaker 3: about it, like, man, this guy's seen it all.
Speaker 1: He's done it all. I mean, he has those two
Speaker 1: years and seventeen with the Vikings and he goes in
Speaker 1: eighteen to the Broncos and he through for about thirty
Speaker 1: eight hundred yards at the Broncos. I mean, we saw
Speaker 1: him that night. He's bringing them back. I mean, if
Speaker 1: McManus doesn't kick it wide right, I mean.
Speaker 3: They make that kick. That's not an impossible kick, it's
Speaker 3: not he makes that kick. Case Keenum beats the textall
Speaker 3: that kick flew.
Speaker 1: Over my head.
Speaker 2: Mark it flew.
Speaker 1: I mean, we all know the famous story of my
Speaker 1: mic being left up. But I'm screaming wide right. But
Speaker 1: that bat flew over my head and that was from
Speaker 1: fifty plus, so he had enough leg he just missed it.
Speaker 2: He makes that Broncos get another win.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 2: You know, it just didn't work in Denver for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: But it made me think about Case and and just
Speaker 1: his journey and what he's what he's done. This is
Speaker 1: his twelfth season. He technically it's his eleventh. From a
Speaker 1: you know, from a games service standpoint because his first
Speaker 1: year was all in practice squad. That's track at twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: so he didn't get on the fiel les twenty five.
Speaker 1: And then he has that, you know, statistically put up
Speaker 1: some decent numbers at thirteen, but then get a win.
Speaker 1: Then he's got to come out of a deer blinded story,
Speaker 1: he told us, which was great. He wins the last
Speaker 1: two games of fourteen. Then it's moving around to the Rams,
Speaker 1: and then it's moving around to the Vikings, and then
Speaker 1: it's to Denver and it's to Washington, et cetera. It's
Speaker 1: amazing the journey he's been on. And I start thinking
Speaker 1: about his value to this team, and I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people put them on the field, he'd be great.
Speaker 1: I'm like, look, cas is thirty you know, five thirty six.
Speaker 1: Right now, it's this is not designed for Case to
Speaker 1: go out on a field and play seventeen weeks. Step
Speaker 1: in when there's an opportunity where there's you know, somebody,
Speaker 1: somebody gets hurt, something happens, he's got to step in. Okay, great,
Speaker 1: but not to be a seventeen week starter, not not
Speaker 1: for this team.
Speaker 3: Are still there are a lot of people that don't
Speaker 3: understand that right now, some people will assume that he's
Speaker 3: the guy or the backup, right, and maybe he ends
Speaker 3: up being the backup here. I don't know. But the
Speaker 3: way the reps were going on OTAs and this was
Speaker 3: well publicized, it didn't appear to be the case.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Mark, and I think this about Case,
Speaker 1: Keenan and there might be a few others, but I
Speaker 1: think Case has immense value to this team beyond anything
Speaker 1: he does on the field. And I think that goes
Speaker 1: without saying in some sense, but I think you kind
Speaker 1: of have to say it. You kind of have to
Speaker 1: look at it and go, look, you're gonna get if
Speaker 1: you have players on your team that don't set foot
Speaker 1: on the field, but yet they give you tremendous value.
Speaker 1: Do their leadership, just the way that they're able to
Speaker 1: help younger players, the way they can help a coaching
Speaker 1: staff that's young and new. Yeah, I mean I think
Speaker 1: Case is older than drot Oh yeah, Drawd Johnson. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure.
Speaker 3: Those guys could talk about a lot. Of course, he's older,
Speaker 3: Wait is he close? It's close to those But because
Speaker 3: Tannehill's rookie year was well and so was cases and
Speaker 3: Jerrod and Tannehill were in college together, so there, so
Speaker 3: it's close. It's close, but it feels like he's older.
Speaker 1: Right because case has seen some things and done some things.
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna get in some coaches a little bit later.
Speaker 1: One of the guys that case Key ended up throwing
Speaker 1: football to was DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 3: I think his first touchdown passing that Kansas City game
Speaker 3: Week seven, twenty thirteen was again was to Hopkins.
Speaker 1: Hopkins. We're gonna talk about the DeAndre Hopkins because he
Speaker 1: is now a member of the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 2: Mark.
Speaker 1: We do this every now and again on Mondays sometimes
Speaker 1: during the season because there's so much going on. Your
Speaker 1: gut reaction when you saw the news this weekend at
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins is going to make his way to Nashville
Speaker 1: as a member of the Titans, all right.
Speaker 3: I hate seeing this for a variety of reasons. I
Speaker 3: don't like seeing I didn't like seeing Andre Johnson go
Speaker 3: to the Colts and then the Titans. I don't like
Speaker 3: seeing DeAndre Hopkins go to the Titans in the division
Speaker 3: Colts Titans. Even Jazz I wouldn't want to see it.
Speaker 3: I don't like to see it. So from that standpoint,
Speaker 3: I hate it. I want him in the NFC. If
Speaker 3: he's not going to be here, I want him somewhere else,
Speaker 3: far away. Now wend would have been preferable to me,
Speaker 3: just as a Texans guy, right, I want to see
Speaker 3: him not here, not around us, because it is kind
Speaker 3: of painful. Look, I love DeAndre Hopkins. He was a
Speaker 3: beloved player here. He was tremendous. I really enjoyed talking
Speaker 3: with him. You did, too, You talked to with him
Speaker 3: more than I did. But every time I've talked with him,
Speaker 3: I think I thanked him three or four times just
Speaker 3: for his service while he was here. Thank you for
Speaker 3: your service. Thank you for all those touchdowns and amazing
Speaker 3: catches and look, doing what I do. I'm really grateful
Speaker 3: for a guy like DeAndre Hopkins. He was a spectacular
Speaker 3: player who made just mind numbing catches, catch after catch,
Speaker 3: made it look easy. Just a great player. And now
Speaker 3: he's in Nashville. I don't know how good he is anymore.
Speaker 3: I think he's still pretty good, all right. I don't
Speaker 3: know what it's going to mean for them. I think
Speaker 3: it's a little over what he might mean for them.
Speaker 3: But it could be really good. At the same time,
Speaker 3: who knows, we'll see, we'll we're all gonna we're all
Speaker 3: gonna watch it together. Texans don't face the Titans till
Speaker 3: very late in the year twice, right, so we'll see
Speaker 3: what they are like at that point. Who's playing quarterback?
Speaker 3: How is he doing? But my gut reaction, Johnny was
Speaker 3: I don't I wish it was the Patriots of the
Speaker 3: two because those are the two jockeying for a position
Speaker 3: to get him. I was hoping it was gonna be
Speaker 3: New England instead of Tennessee. But overall, I would prefer
Speaker 3: an NFC team.
Speaker 1: So we had a text threat going between you and
Speaker 1: I and Deep and Drew. It was on Sunday, and
Speaker 1: Drew just texted with the Twitter notice, and that's what
Speaker 1: we do. We see things on Twitter, and you know,
Speaker 1: we send it to each other and we kind of
Speaker 1: remark on it in different things. And Drew just said, damn,
Speaker 1: and I get that. I felt like the damn part
Speaker 1: was more about him going to Tennessee than it was
Speaker 1: he's not in here, you know, because there was some
Speaker 1: talk about, oh, he's got he can come back to Houston.
Speaker 2: They need a receiver. This is a big fit. Doesn't
Speaker 2: always work like that.
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of things that are
Speaker 1: that are going on with this this ball club, and
Speaker 1: you already had committed to Robert Woods. I think Robert's
Speaker 1: your oldest receiver. I believe who else will be older. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the oldest receiver. I just had to say it
Speaker 1: out loud to make it make sense. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know that you could have done another one. And I
Speaker 1: know you know people like, well, you didn't have to
Speaker 1: go sign Wood, you could have signed Hopall. Well, no,
Speaker 1: you didn't know Hopkins was gonna be available until around
Speaker 1: draft time, so you didn't know that was gonna be
Speaker 1: the case. So you've also got some young dudes. You
Speaker 1: gotta find some stuff out about. Look this, I don't
Speaker 1: know where John Metchi stands in in in his arrival
Speaker 1: re arrival from you know, dealing with leukemia, where whether
Speaker 1: he's getting clear or not. I know that was the
Speaker 1: talk at the end of OTA's and Minie camp. I
Speaker 1: hope that happens. He's gonna need reps. Tank Dell is
Speaker 1: gonna need reps. Nico Collins has really if you look
Speaker 1: at it this way, look at his games played. He's
Speaker 1: basically played one season was like he played one season
Speaker 1: and then the other he didn't, and he wasn't even
Speaker 1: fully healthy for that season. So Nico needs all the
Speaker 1: reps he can. Robert Woods knows this offense, he still
Speaker 1: needs reps to get in a synergy with CJ. Stroud
Speaker 1: and with Davis Mills as opposed to what he was
Speaker 1: with last year in Tennessee and even before that with
Speaker 1: the Rams. The receivers need all the reps they can get.
Speaker 1: So I know there's there's some frustration from Texans fans
Speaker 1: that I kind of noticed on Twitter. I'm like, this
Speaker 1: just wasn't the right spot in the right time for
Speaker 1: Hop And I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I love the guy, absolutely love him. We were at Applebee's.
Speaker 1: I remember, we had like six to eight of us
Speaker 1: out for dinner and Appleby's the Greenbrier. We had a
Speaker 1: big old dinner and he went to Applebee's to go get.
Speaker 3: His food a takeout.
Speaker 1: He went to get a takeout and he could just
Speaker 1: waved at us. He came over stop, shook everybody's hands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks us for you know, for being there. And I
Speaker 1: was like, man, there weren't a lot of players that
Speaker 1: would have that would have done that he did. I
Speaker 1: said a soft spot in my heart for him, and
Speaker 1: I hate the fact that we will see him. But
Speaker 1: then again, you said it, we don't play it. Titans
Speaker 1: still December seventeenth. There's a lot of football between now
Speaker 1: and then. And I remember when when Andre Johnson went
Speaker 1: to the Colts in fifteen, and I remember thinking, just
Speaker 1: I love Dre, but fandud Luck's not the quarterback. How
Speaker 1: good is that gonna look every single week? Well, on
Speaker 1: Thursday night, it look good against us and it's stunk.
Speaker 1: But then late in the season, Yeah, we went to Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: We had arguably our greatest road win ever.
Speaker 3: Was he playing that day?
Speaker 1: Andre played that day?
Speaker 3: Hassle Beck still playing.
Speaker 1: And hassle Beck, now with a clean diaper, was not
Speaker 1: getting into football.
Speaker 3: And maybe he needs Tazuma's revenge to play well. At mean,
Speaker 3: not Andre, but hassle Beck at that stad.
Speaker 1: And then the next year he goes to Tennessee and
Speaker 1: We're like, oh my god, he went to Tennessee. We
Speaker 1: won the division both years. Now, I'm not saying Texas
Speaker 1: are gonna win the division this year, but I'm just
Speaker 1: saying if Andre Johnson can go somewhere and we can
Speaker 1: play against him, If JJ Watt can go somewhere, we
Speaker 1: can play against him, We'll survive this. And again, I
Speaker 1: love Hop, I love Hop a ton but and there's
Speaker 1: been a lot to talk about. Well, you know, he's
Speaker 1: playing with Tannell, he's playing with with Will Levis. Well
Speaker 1: he's had to do the first career. Yeah, but Hop
Speaker 1: isn't the same guy that he was early in his career.
Speaker 1: He's he's a different gasp and banged up, doesn't have
Speaker 1: quite the juice he used to have when he was
Speaker 1: playing with the guys that you know, weren't great non
Speaker 1: pro bowlers. It's a little different. He's really gonna be
Speaker 1: that guy again for Tennessee because who else is going
Speaker 1: to knock him out of there?
Speaker 2: Trailing Burks, Nick Westburog Keenan.
Speaker 1: I like Burks. I think Burke's is gonna end up
Speaker 1: being a solid number one. But he in there yet,
Speaker 1: not especially after last year. So from all of that,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. But I'm not totally convinced. I'm
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent convinced that we actually face him
Speaker 1: twice this year.
Speaker 3: Okay, No, I'm not either, and he's had some injury issues.
Speaker 3: He'll be the first one to tell you that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: They obviously understand what they're getting. As far as an
Speaker 3: individual goes Tim Kelly, Mike Rabel, They've been around him,
Speaker 3: all the other guys on the Titans in their organization
Speaker 3: who have been Houston Texans, they get it. It just
Speaker 3: feels in some ways because they're gonna win the oiler
Speaker 3: uniforms one game this year, one game this year, and
Speaker 3: they get DeAndre Hopkins. It just feels like the Titans
Speaker 3: organization is obsessed with Houston. And sometimes that's a positive
Speaker 3: Rabel and friends, I mean, they've done some good things
Speaker 3: there relatively, but sometimes it's a negative. Right, got to
Speaker 3: get Andre Johnson? Really do you really have to get
Speaker 3: Andre Johnson at that point in his career? And look,
Speaker 3: I wish Andre played here forever. It didn't happen. I
Speaker 3: wish he played forever. Whatever didn't happen. You think about
Speaker 3: all the other acquisitions they've made, and they've moved on
Speaker 3: from many of them as well, But think about this.
Speaker 3: A couple of things about this acquisition. ESPN had a
Speaker 3: great stat I was in the cafeteria this morning. They
Speaker 3: flashed it up on the screen, and it was pretty
Speaker 3: funny because they had Titans organization members all time receptions
Speaker 3: t res yes, so it's Hopkins over seventy, Vrabel double figures.
Speaker 3: Nobody else more than five. I think Chris Moore might
Speaker 3: have been the leader with five. That's unbelievable, Chris, Johnny,
Speaker 3: that's unbelievable. It is that before this acquisition, Rabel had
Speaker 3: more career touchdown receptions in trick plays than any member
Speaker 3: of the Titans organization.
Speaker 2: Almost all of them combined.
Speaker 1: Yes, twelve crazy well and by the way, Verbe played linebacker,
Speaker 1: not tight ends.
Speaker 2: Got an offensive position. He played linebacker.
Speaker 3: He caught one here as a chief against the Houston texts.
Speaker 1: He yes, as a chief.
Speaker 3: Was that was he was at that point, Yeah, must
Speaker 3: have been that one.
Speaker 1: It wasn't ten ten, it was it was later, because
Speaker 1: there was seven. He was still at the Patriots.
Speaker 3: They were here in ten when the Texans beat them
Speaker 3: and went four and two at the time. I got
Speaker 3: to look that up.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about Frabel a little bit later, but.
Speaker 3: It's that's funny. The other one is NFL memes, and
Speaker 3: they are so funny. They're so good. I think even
Speaker 3: the league office has like memes because it's just such
Speaker 3: great comic relief. But they had the Antonio Brown ripping
Speaker 3: his shirt off video at the Metal Lands. They had that,
Speaker 3: and that said DeAndre Hopkins after catching passes from Will
Speaker 3: Levis and Ryan Tannehill for two weeks, and I thought
Speaker 3: that was hilarious. But that's not d Hop. D Hop's
Speaker 3: not one to complain and be publicly demonstrative that he's
Speaker 3: not getting the ball enough or in the right way
Speaker 3: or whatever. But I would imagine that behind closed doors,
Speaker 3: he's gonna say, listen, it'll be better if we do
Speaker 3: this or do that. He's gonna have feedback, input, whatever.
Speaker 3: Because he's DeAndre Hopkins. He's an accomplished receiver, one of
Speaker 3: the very best who's ever played the game. I don't
Speaker 3: care what the numbers say. That is a fact. And
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how this is going to play out.
Speaker 3: As long as Tannehill's healthy, they can run the ball
Speaker 3: a bit. There's gonna be so much opportunity. But if
Speaker 3: Tannehill doesn't play that well, the line doesn't pan out.
Speaker 3: Because they're rebuilding it. Levis ends up playing. You know,
Speaker 3: he's gonna catch his because he's DeAndre Hopkins with a
Speaker 3: catch radius the size of Rhode Island.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's gonna work out by enlarge though,
Speaker 3: big picture wise for the Titans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think maybe they're just looking at a
Speaker 2: stop gap. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think the Titans are very confusing because there are
Speaker 1: times when I go, well, okay, they must be quote
Speaker 1: unquote tanking to possibly get Kayleb Williams. Well, then they
Speaker 1: draft Will Levis. Oh okay, well is that the young
Speaker 1: guy they want to groom. So it's like some on
Speaker 1: some hands. On one hand, it looks like they're trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll just kind of mail this season in,
Speaker 1: but then we'll start a new Hey, look at some
Speaker 1: of the other moves. Well they reupp to with Jeffrey Simmons, Like, okay,
Speaker 1: they paid him a lot of money to do it,
Speaker 1: which I wish they wouldn't, But it just feels odd.
Speaker 1: It feels weird. It's like, are they all in to
Speaker 1: go win games or are they set up to be
Speaker 1: nine to eight? Yet again, I just can't They're kind
Speaker 1: of in the land of mediocrity if you ask me,
Speaker 1: I think defense is exceptional. I think the offense is
Speaker 1: still mediocre because I think the offensive line is absolutely dreadful.
Speaker 1: But if they can capture, if they can capture uh,
Speaker 1: Derek n Best again, if DeAndre stays healthy again, then
Speaker 1: maybe maybe if Tannehills stays healthy. Even if Tannehill is healthy,
Speaker 1: I put the I put the market nine and eight.
Speaker 1: I put it at nine and eight. I don't know
Speaker 1: the water mark high water mark for them, ninety eight
Speaker 1: that's well, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're gonna have to manufacture wins and do
Speaker 3: it the raable way and all of that.
Speaker 1: They are they are. They are literally the twenty fifteen
Speaker 1: Texans and now they have DeAndre Hopkins to prove it.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's gonna work out the way
Speaker 3: they picture it. It is a really it's a rich
Speaker 3: man's acquisition. To me, it seems strange for what they're
Speaker 3: going through. They should be doing more of what the
Speaker 3: Texans are doing. Hey, these young guys gotta play, gotta
Speaker 3: get them seasoned. We feel like we can win some
Speaker 3: games with them, right if we get hot.
Speaker 1: You never know.
Speaker 3: They have to feel that way because they have Derek
Speaker 3: Henry approven commodity MVP candidate as a running back. If
Speaker 3: they can get him going again, it all feeds off him. Well,
Speaker 3: as I say this, well, maybe you know, maybe they
Speaker 3: just believe. And we know their defense healthy, especially upfront,
Speaker 3: can be very good, can be. So we'll see maybe
Speaker 3: they can knock off the Jaguars. Maybe they're the team
Speaker 3: to do it. But we're all waiting. We're all eager
Speaker 3: and anxious to find out how it plays out.
Speaker 1: I saw this craft done by somebody today and they said,
Speaker 1: we're using the same algorithm that some Major League Baseball
Speaker 1: site used to come up with things that have been very,
Speaker 1: very accurate and had the Titans with eleven wins. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: how do you thank you for com on? I was like, no, oh,
Speaker 1: And the worst part was they had the Jaguars with
Speaker 1: six and a half wins.
Speaker 3: Now, I'm all in for that.
Speaker 1: I'm all in for it, But I don't think that's
Speaker 1: I don't think that's happening unless Trevor gets banged up.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: Well, people keep asking me, and I just I always
Speaker 3: go by the history of this team and my win
Speaker 3: projections and everything, and it even if I'm right, and
Speaker 3: I've been right very often or in the neighborhood. I
Speaker 3: was particularly right during those nine and seven seasons. Yep,
Speaker 3: but it never happens the way you think it's gonna happen. Right,
Speaker 3: you win one, you think you're gonna lose, You lose one,
Speaker 3: you think you're gonna win, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: So who knows. Trip to La to take on the
Speaker 1: Chargers in nineteen, win that game on the road, turn
Speaker 1: right around, play the Carolina Panthers and get beat at home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean to Kyle Allen, Yeah, to Kyle Allen, Well,
Speaker 1: we lost the Christian McCaffrey. Then how about Gardner Minshew
Speaker 1: here almost almost got the Texans? Was it?
Speaker 3: Fournette still at that point getting left?
Speaker 1: Just stuff in Fournette six inches from the goal line.
Speaker 3: He makes that two point conversion. You lose to Gardner
Speaker 3: Minshew and the Jaguars at home to start.
Speaker 1: This, that would have been bad. Oh, yeah, that would
Speaker 1: have been Then you got to go to La to
Speaker 1: take on the Chargers. Now it's a must win. Now
Speaker 1: you did win, but you come out of there instead
Speaker 1: of want to two you two and one, you know why,
Speaker 1: You're looking good, But then you lose the call.
Speaker 3: You know it is one of the things that's so
Speaker 3: tough about this game is those kinds of things. Okay,
Speaker 3: you made the play, and we all know it's a
Speaker 3: fine line, but it's the old Van Gundy thing. You
Speaker 3: can't ignore in victory what you wouldn't in defeat. You
Speaker 3: have to account for that. Hey, we were in a
Speaker 3: situation where Gardner Minshaw was about to beat us, so
Speaker 3: we clearly have to improve off of that. It's kind
Speaker 3: of like, I'm gonna make the analogy here. It's kind
Speaker 3: of like my golf game. Right, you hit the ball
Speaker 3: six inches one way or to the other. Well, now
Speaker 3: it's in the trap. It was gonna bounce out of
Speaker 3: the trap and maybe roll out of the green, and
Speaker 3: I'm putting in a two putt a i could par
Speaker 3: the whole or but now I'm in the sand and
Speaker 3: it's a tough lie and here comes three more strokes
Speaker 3: or maybe four. Right, So that's football, also, that fine line.
Speaker 3: You have, one bad thing happened. Okay, this might cause
Speaker 3: you to change some things that are really gonna make
Speaker 3: you better, or you got away with it. Are you
Speaker 3: fat and happy? Are you still adjusting? Are you taking
Speaker 3: into account that you're not as good as you think
Speaker 3: you are. But you are winning. Okay, let's see how
Speaker 3: we can get better.
Speaker 2: Happens to tennis? Two one points all it takes.
Speaker 1: If you watch Joker taking on Altcraz yesterday, Man, what
Speaker 1: an athletic performance that was just I mean, that's that
Speaker 1: sports performance was just incredible. It was cool. So they
Speaker 1: were they were so funny.
Speaker 3: But Johnny, so it's four and a half hours, four
Speaker 3: forty five, I'm sorry, all right. I took the little
Speaker 3: kids skating and came back and still got to watch it.
Speaker 1: Had consume That's why I consumed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's on, right, it's but here's the problem
Speaker 3: with tennis. It's on and you, oh you missed that point,
Speaker 3: right because you're looking away. Golf you can kind of
Speaker 3: all right, I'll rewind that. I know you can rewind
Speaker 3: the tennis too, But then so much has happened since,
Speaker 3: so it's a hard sport to ignore or ignore just
Speaker 3: to have on in the background and really enjoy it
Speaker 3: at the same time.
Speaker 1: No doubt. But it was definitely enjoyable for sure. Now
Speaker 1: we've been talking about Mike Vrabel a little bit, did
Speaker 1: throwing Doug Peterson a little bit PFF, excuse me, PFT.
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk has ranked their top ten coaches in
Speaker 1: the NFL. They're up through six. Ten through six to
Speaker 1: have to name their top five. CBS Sports is rated
Speaker 1: one through thirty two. They are remarkably different. Next on
Speaker 1: Texans All Access, Welcome back to this Monday edition of
Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Texans Radio studio. Mark and
Speaker 1: John with you, and Mark pointed this out to me,
Speaker 1: and then I added another piece to this. Mike Florio
Speaker 1: is doing his coaching rankings, and he's just doing a
Speaker 1: top ten of the coaching rankings, and he's not gotten
Speaker 1: all the way through the top ten, but he's got
Speaker 1: five and two of them come from the the AFC South.
Speaker 1: The five that we think are not listed, we'll get
Speaker 1: to those in a second. But here's what Mike Florio
Speaker 1: has for best coaches in the NFL. And we're gonna
Speaker 1: compare this to what Cody Benjamin did on CBS Sports
Speaker 1: because Cody did one through thirty two. So it means
Speaker 1: our pal Demico Ryans is named in that listing. I
Speaker 1: was a little surprised by his ranking, and I'll we'll
Speaker 1: give you the number a little bit later, but Here's
Speaker 1: what Florio has right now. Ted best coach in the league,
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, Jaguars, ninth best, Mike Rabel Tennessee Titans, number eight,
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine Ers head coach Kyle Shanahan, number
Speaker 1: seven Rams head coach Sean McVay, and number six Broncos
Speaker 1: head coach Sean Payton.
Speaker 2: I saw those five, Mark, I had a little bit
Speaker 2: of an issue.
Speaker 3: Okay, we had a bit of an issue. Do you
Speaker 3: have an issue? Let me guess here? Does Rabel belong
Speaker 3: in that company? He's been to one conference championship game,
Speaker 3: He's coming off a losing season. What have you done
Speaker 3: seven in a row? What have you done for me lately?
Speaker 3: Does figure in? Because I know I just firmly believe
Speaker 3: that when his top five comes out, and we can
Speaker 3: guess who the top five is for Florio. He hasn't
Speaker 3: named him yet, but when they come out, Belichick's not
Speaker 3: going to be number one. I think he'll put read
Speaker 3: number one.
Speaker 1: I think it'll be number one, Andy Reid, Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: Steelers coach Mike Tomlin, Ravens coach John Harbaugh, Eagles coach
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni. At least that's what we surmise. That's that's
Speaker 1: that's the deal.
Speaker 3: Can I start with you there though, in that top
Speaker 3: five in no particular order, is there anybody in the
Speaker 3: five that does not belong in that five?
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to talk about what have
Speaker 1: you done for me lately? I mean John Harbaugh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And if you want to push push down up a.
Speaker 3: Little bit Tomlin, it feels like Tomlin a little bit,
Speaker 3: Belichick a little bit see Tomlin, Yeah, I guess so,
Speaker 3: but Tomlin especially, it feels like if you criticize Tomlin,
Speaker 3: it's like criticizing the Pope in the middle of Vatican City,
Speaker 3: right true, no matter where you are, because everybody has
Speaker 3: such great respect for him, and rightfully so. I thought
Speaker 3: last year he did a hell of a job breaking
Speaker 3: in a new quarterback, and he also did a hell
Speaker 3: of a job squeezing whatever football life that was left
Speaker 3: out of Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't have much an issue with Tomlin
Speaker 1: as I do Harball. But if you're going, if you're
Speaker 1: going on that, and you know they want some games
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, don' think there's any question. I think John
Speaker 1: is a tremendous.
Speaker 3: Making the playoffs last year was a pretty good achievement
Speaker 3: considering Lamar Jackson's health.
Speaker 1: Right, But here's kind of my this is, this is
Speaker 1: my issue to have harball head of Kyle Shanahan. Now,
Speaker 1: I know Kyle's not perfect and he had a run
Speaker 1: there where it was it was a little dicey, But
Speaker 1: they've gone to the NFC Championship game in the last
Speaker 1: two years. He's thought to be, if not the best
Speaker 1: play caller in the league a teen and Andy reid
Speaker 1: Off it's play caller.
Speaker 2: You got to give him credit for that as well.
Speaker 1: Now he's got a roster that has been built up,
Speaker 1: and I think Kyle shann has a really good coach
Speaker 1: when it comes to well is this guy the best?
Speaker 1: You asked me this a lot of times. You know
Speaker 1: who's better? Yeah? I always think about this. In one
Speaker 1: game scenario, with the same talent on each side, which
Speaker 1: coach do I want? Unfortunately, I would say Frabel. I
Speaker 1: would want Frabel over Shanhan number of these guys over
Speaker 1: a number of these guys, I would want Frabel because
Speaker 1: I think Vrabel is going to get the most out
Speaker 1: of whatever he has, and if he's got high end talent,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get even more if he's got low end talent.
Speaker 1: And what's the old saying, he's gonna make good great,
Speaker 1: He's gonna make great, elite. He's gonna make elite championship level,
Speaker 1: or however it goes.
Speaker 2: But Rabel is a.
Speaker 1: Guy that I I want, I want leading that team.
Speaker 3: Here's I think he's an incredible football coach, and that
Speaker 3: roster has not been good, hence Ran Carthon coming in
Speaker 3: to be to be the GM.
Speaker 1: But I have issues with the two Shawn's Okay McVeigh,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, they went out and they obtained Now
Speaker 1: McVeigh was was driving the bus. He makes the personnel
Speaker 1: decisions with the Rams, I mean less sneed did all
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes work. But you know McVeigh pulled
Speaker 1: the trigger so that I mean, look, that's that's part
Speaker 1: of being the coach of that team.
Speaker 2: So you got to give him credit for that.
Speaker 1: But when that talent was hurt last year, and that
Speaker 1: talent was not there, when von Miller was now in
Speaker 1: Buffalo and Matt Stafford was hanged up, when Andrew Whitworth
Speaker 1: had retired, still had Aaron Donald.
Speaker 3: What did the Rams do? Not much much? They went
Speaker 3: five and twelve, Johnny five and twelve.
Speaker 1: Mm hm.
Speaker 3: But I will say this, that's his first losing season.
Speaker 1: I'll give him that. I'll give him that.
Speaker 2: So I don't have as much of McVeigh.
Speaker 1: I do think it's not I don't like Shanahan being
Speaker 1: in front of McVeigh. I don't like that you could
Speaker 1: swap those not be okay with that. Sean Payton, I
Speaker 1: don't know. The whole coaching search was Sean Payton this
Speaker 1: past year. I'm like, I mean, I get it. You know,
Speaker 1: he won a super Bowl that was fourteen years ago. Yeah, Mike,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy won a Super Bowl before that in twenty ten.
Speaker 3: It bought him a lot of years. You win a
Speaker 3: super Bowl and you keep winning even though you're not
Speaker 3: winning championships, it's gonna buy you a lot of time.
Speaker 1: I e.
Speaker 3: Harball, Tomlin, all these guys right, if you were I'll
Speaker 3: put it this way, if Tomlin and Harball had never
Speaker 3: won a Super Bowl, but every other season is exactly
Speaker 3: the way it is. For that you just eliminate their
Speaker 3: championship year, they wouldn't have lasted this long. There's no
Speaker 3: way you'd get frustrated. You'd say, no, they're not getting
Speaker 3: over the top. They can't do it. They can't do it.
Speaker 3: They're gone. Peyton the same thing. Although Peyton after having
Speaker 3: what three consecutive losing seasons after going to the Greenbrier,
Speaker 3: which is kind of weird, but three consecutive losing seasons,
Speaker 3: then he got it going again once they left the
Speaker 3: Green Brier. I'm not really trying to throw the Green
Speaker 3: Brier into the bus here. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 3: I'd like to put the Green Briers a possible future
Speaker 3: Texans training camp destination because I'd like to go back.
Speaker 1: Yes, but that's my brons are going there this fall
Speaker 1: or this summer.
Speaker 3: Just for a little bit, right, just for a little bit, just.
Speaker 1: For a little bit. Let's go to CBS. Just their list.
Speaker 1: Their list is remarkably different. Let's start at ten. That's
Speaker 1: not different. Doug Peterson number nine. This might be when
Speaker 1: we forgot But I don't know how you squeez him in.
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll number nine.
Speaker 3: Who's he gonna take out?
Speaker 1: See?
Speaker 3: I could say that he might take out Tom lein
Speaker 3: Ard Harbaugh.
Speaker 1: I think he might take one of those out. Eight,
Speaker 1: Sean Payton HM seven, Sean McDermott bills number six Tomlin
Speaker 1: or five Harbaugh for McVeigh, three Belichick, two Shanahan and
Speaker 1: one Andy Reid. Now, I would probably say I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit closer going with that ten than Flourius ten.
Speaker 1: But we don't know the top five. Did Pete Carroll
Speaker 1: make the make the top five? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: thought Pete did a really good coaching job last year
Speaker 1: without Russell Wilson. Yeah, you know, the guy that had
Speaker 1: been the face of the franchise. They trade him, they
Speaker 1: get a huge haul back you want to hot take,
Speaker 1: and then they get into the playoffs with Gino Smith.
Speaker 3: You tell me how many sizzle fires this should get
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll over Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 1: Oh that's five and a half. That's five plus. That's five,
Speaker 1: that's five plus. I'm not gonna argue with Pete Carroll
Speaker 1: being one hell of football coach. I believe in Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 1: I think the way that maybe I'm a little bit
Speaker 1: biased because I just heard that play Callers podcast and
Speaker 1: so I'm listening to you know, how he handles things
Speaker 1: and how he does things, and it just jives with
Speaker 1: the way that I think about football. So maybe maybe
Speaker 1: it's that. But Kyle Shanahan the last couple of years
Speaker 1: gone to NFC Championship game, went to the super Bowl
Speaker 1: in nineteen, so he went to the super Bowl nineteen
Speaker 1: and then twenty one and twenty two, he gets the
Speaker 1: NFC Championship Game. They lose this one because they're on
Speaker 1: their fifth quarterback. Yeah, he turned Rock Party into Brock
Speaker 1: freaking Party.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think hand but he never had the
Speaker 3: stability at quarterback that Pete Carroll has had with Russell
Speaker 3: Wilson going good. Now, you have to give Carol a
Speaker 3: lot of credit for that, but he hasn't. He's done
Speaker 3: it one year without him done it, meaning make the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Shanahan six years, three losing seasons, three winning seasons, but
Speaker 3: the winning seasons have been really good. Yeah, And that's
Speaker 3: the thing I do think, and I thought previously that
Speaker 3: he was a little over inflated, but getting to the
Speaker 3: conference championship game the year before last and especially last
Speaker 3: year like you brought it out with Brock Purdy is
Speaker 3: super impressive. But I think Pete Carroll is almost as
Speaker 3: good as it gets because you look at his record
Speaker 3: over the years, Johnny, it is incredibly impressive. He had
Speaker 3: the one losing season in twenty twenty one. Everything else
Speaker 3: since getting in Seattle, since getting Wilson has been a
Speaker 3: winning campaign, if not a super Bowl campaign. He won
Speaker 3: a super Bowl, lost to Super Bowl. Hey, maybe he's
Speaker 3: one of those guys like I poured it out. He
Speaker 3: lost to Super Bowl in twenty fourteen on the interception
Speaker 3: by Malcolm Butler. Since then, he hasn't made it to
Speaker 3: the conference championship, but he's made a lot of playoff appearances.
Speaker 3: He's made what six playoff appearances, hasn't won a ton
Speaker 3: of playoff games, but a lot of winning seasons, only
Speaker 3: one losing season. Had he not have those Super bowls,
Speaker 3: which I get is a big exception, you'd be saying, oh,
Speaker 3: he can't get over the top.
Speaker 1: He's got to go.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like that Harbaugh, Tomlin, that category of
Speaker 3: guys who like and Peyton as well, you know who.
Speaker 3: All right, you won a super Bowl a long time ago,
Speaker 3: but we're gonna wait because we know you can do it.
Speaker 1: On CBS Sports, yeah, they have raybo at thirteen, they
Speaker 1: have Syrian on at twelve.
Speaker 3: That's pretty low.
Speaker 1: And they went they had the Florida eleven. So it
Speaker 1: feels a little bit like experience. Yeah, played a big role,
Speaker 1: but why have did you say the number one guy
Speaker 1: yet and you Reid?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Why have Reid and Shanahana had a Belichick? Then?
Speaker 2: Come on? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean, why are you slamming Belichick for not doing
Speaker 3: well lately? He made the playoffs with mac Jones Mac
Speaker 3: jones first year, had one bad year with mac Jones,
Speaker 3: and then the year before that obviously Cam Newton. It
Speaker 3: didn't work out in Brady's first year out of the building.
Speaker 1: I'm not buying this complete argument, but I can see
Speaker 1: people saying, look, how good is Belichick without Brady? Right?
Speaker 2: All right, So I'm not buying it.
Speaker 1: But if you go just purely on numbers, how good
Speaker 1: has he been without Brady in the last three years?
Speaker 1: He's without Brady and again he's without Brady at twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, So how good is he without braidining.
Speaker 3: I think this is a very important year to determine that.
Speaker 3: Not that they're loaded at quarterback because they have Mac
Speaker 3: Joness and animal see how it goes.
Speaker 1: And number three, number three ranked OC in the league
Speaker 1: with Bill O'Brien, So they have him, And I mean
Speaker 1: I say that partly in cheek, but yeah, partly tongue
Speaker 1: watch and cheek.
Speaker 3: But supposed to be. And we went over the OCAs
Speaker 3: and we thought at that point, we thought, but then, okay,
Speaker 3: with all the turnover at the offensive coordinator position. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of I hear a lot of people who
Speaker 3: just don't understand the history of the league though, And
Speaker 3: when you have these arguments, Belichick did win a playoff
Speaker 3: game without Brady in Cleveland. Yes, he had Vinnie right,
Speaker 3: so long ago, people, I know, before the internet, It
Speaker 3: was before the It was in ninety four. There was
Speaker 3: a internet. There was Commodore sixty four, aol America online. Anyway,
Speaker 3: he beat Bill Parcells and Drew Bloodsoe in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: He did very much. So, all right, where do you
Speaker 1: think Dimico comes in at one through thirty two?
Speaker 3: Well, you sounded surprise, So I would bet it's sort
Speaker 3: of high, like twenty four or something.
Speaker 1: Oh good, twenty five, twenty five, Now I start feel
Speaker 1: good about it. He's ahead one ahead of Robert sala As.
Speaker 1: At twenty six. He is a few ahead Arthur Smith.
Speaker 1: I think Arthur's a better coach than they gave him
Speaker 1: credit for he's five in front of Josh McDaniels, McDaniels
Speaker 1: at thirty.
Speaker 3: Well, McDaniels, what have you done for me? Ever as
Speaker 3: a head coach?
Speaker 1: Jonathan Ganne at thirty one, Matty Eberflus thirty two. Then
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, that's pretty good. Guess there's one
Speaker 1: spot ahead of Demiko Ryans think Indianapolis.
Speaker 3: So Shane Steiken, yes, is going to get the nod
Speaker 3: over Tomico.
Speaker 2: That feels why, like why, really why?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe maybe it's this Super Bowl appearance
Speaker 1: as an offensive coordinator with the Chargers. They got the
Speaker 1: most out of Justin Herbert and then they go to
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and now he's got to do it.
Speaker 2: So maybe there's some of that, I guess.
Speaker 1: But then you gotta give to Migo credit for his
Speaker 1: defenses in San Francisco and.
Speaker 3: All this is speck anyway, right, These guys have never
Speaker 3: coached the game as a head coach. It is fun
Speaker 3: to rank them, But next year we're gonna have a
Speaker 3: lot of body of work to look at, at least a
Speaker 3: little body of work relatives with some of some of
Speaker 3: these other guys who have been coaching for two decades
Speaker 3: or more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike McDaniel for the Dolphins at eighteen, Kevin o'c
Speaker 1: college seventeen, Frank Reich comes into sixteen, and this is
Speaker 1: one I would I know, it's only one year, so
Speaker 1: there's not a body of work I and part of
Speaker 1: it is because I don't know, maybe I feel a
Speaker 1: little bit embarrassed. I thought the Giants were gonna absolutely
Speaker 1: stink last year. I thought they were gonna be awful.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, like Dables, a good coach, but got them
Speaker 1: to the playoffs and beat.
Speaker 2: Minnesota at Minnesota at Minnesota. Yah.
Speaker 1: They got housed the next week by the Eagles in
Speaker 1: their division. Brian Dables really good football coaching, a really
Speaker 1: good head coach. He's in at fifteen. It's probably about right.
Speaker 1: Give him another couple of years and see what he
Speaker 1: can do. And I don't know if Daniel Jones ever
Speaker 1: ends up being that guy for them, but that's.
Speaker 2: He's a he's a I was really impressed.
Speaker 1: They didn't really do a ton to us where I went, like,
Speaker 1: you know, scheme wise, this it was just the fact
Speaker 1: that they took care of business against us and knew, okay,
Speaker 1: And this is the one thing that Belichick gets a
Speaker 1: lot of credit for, and we've give him a credit
Speaker 1: for because Bill O'Brian just tell us all the time
Speaker 1: that in the first quarter, in the first quarter that
Speaker 1: Belichick would walk over to Obi and say, Hey, this
Speaker 1: is this is a running kind of game. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be an aired out kind of game. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be a thirty seven to thirty four kind of games.
Speaker 1: So make sure and and they will seem to have
Speaker 1: that kind of figured out, like what kind of game
Speaker 1: the Giants needed to play to win?
Speaker 3: Very parcels Ian, Yes, very much so, very nice fit
Speaker 3: in New York. He went to high school in Western
Speaker 3: New York near Buffalo. There's something about him when you
Speaker 3: see him, you feel like that's a good fit. Gable winning.
Speaker 1: It just's gonna be a good right for them.
Speaker 3: And I'm glad we don't have to play them this year,
Speaker 3: but you know we'll see like, oh.
Speaker 1: Man watching Dexter Lawrence not having to play him. Oh
Speaker 1: thank god, oh man, that was a murderers row that
Speaker 1: we were facing from the NFC East last year. So
Speaker 1: thankfully we don't have to face them, but we'll face others,
Speaker 1: including Mike Rabels, Guy Jeffrey Simmons.
Speaker 2: All right, we get back. We'll go round the league.
Speaker 2: Eight new news.
Speaker 1: We'll touch on the other side right here on Texans
Speaker 1: All Access. What's happened everybody? Welcome back to this Monday
Speaker 1: edition of Texans All Access. I'm your host, John Harris,
Speaker 1: Football on out sideline Report. Appreciate you being with me
Speaker 1: as we are nine days from Mark and I going
Speaker 1: live at eight am. That's a Wednesday, July twenty six,
Speaker 1: as we kick off Texans training camp twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: Cannot wait, cannot wait for that to happen.
Speaker 1: All right, it's go around the league and the theme
Speaker 1: of the first segment was DeAndre Hopkins AFC South. The
Speaker 1: theme of the second segment was hey coaches in the NFL.
Speaker 1: The third segment is all about the running backs and
Speaker 1: it's not good news. Three running backs were tagged, meaning
Speaker 1: they got the franchise tag Cowboys Tony Pollard, Giant Saquon
Speaker 1: Barkley and the Raiders Josh Jacobs. They had until three
Speaker 1: o'clock Local time four o'clock Eastern time to get a
Speaker 1: long term deal done.
Speaker 2: None of them got a deal done.
Speaker 1: All three running backs as long as they signed the
Speaker 1: franchise tender. We'll be playing this year under a one
Speaker 1: year contract. And it has kicked over a hornet's nest
Speaker 1: of so many different thoughts about NFL running backs, the
Speaker 1: expendability of NFL running backs. I've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: people espouse their theories about NFL running backs. I think
Speaker 1: Matt Miller from ESPN put he would draft the running
Speaker 1: back if he's good, give him a one year franchise deal,
Speaker 1: and then draft another one and go from there. And
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not totally opposed to that that line
Speaker 1: of thought either. My thought on running backs has always
Speaker 1: been you ride that running back, and you ride that
Speaker 1: running back, and if it's good, you keep riding. If
Speaker 1: at some point it breaks, there are gonna be plenty
Speaker 1: of This is a supply and demand business, and it
Speaker 1: stinks for running backs, it really does. And there are
Speaker 1: a lot of people that think a lot like me
Speaker 1: in the league. But if you get a great one,
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, Christian McCaffrey, someone of that ill keeping Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 1: I mean, David's on a second contract with the Vikings.
Speaker 1: It was super successful with that second contract. When you
Speaker 1: find a great one, you keep him. The key to
Speaker 1: on a second contract has been in most cases, it's
Speaker 1: guys that give you something extra. You know, Arion Foster,
Speaker 1: he was gonna give you sixty to sixty five catches.
Speaker 1: McCaffrey one, you had eighty eight catches or ninety catches.
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook has always been a really good receiver out
Speaker 1: of the backfield. So you add that extra something, that
Speaker 1: little I should say little catch the ball in the backfield.
Speaker 1: I mean the guy turned into a receiver, take less carries,
Speaker 1: play on third down, you know, have another at that
Speaker 1: goes right along with you. And I think the Texans
Speaker 1: sort of benefited from that line of thinking with Devin Singletary.
Speaker 1: The Bills felt like, man, we gave this guy four
Speaker 1: years of a lot of touches and we don't know
Speaker 1: that we want to re up with him. Texas ended
Speaker 1: up signing Devin Singletary, and I think it's going to
Speaker 1: be for the betterment of the twenty twenty three team
Speaker 1: and hopefully for the betterment of Devin to show that
Speaker 1: he can do a little bit more. He can be
Speaker 1: even better in the third down game, and he can
Speaker 1: be a great complimentary piece, side pick up, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to call it to Damian Pierce. They can be
Speaker 1: a one A one B sort of situation. Running Backs
Speaker 1: are tricky man's and it's rough. I mean, I love
Speaker 1: these guys, love the running backs that have come into
Speaker 1: the Texans room. Maybe not so much lately. I love
Speaker 1: his guys, but they just haven't been great running backs.
Speaker 1: But Damien's going to be up against this in a
Speaker 1: couple of years, like, what is the value of a
Speaker 1: running back? What is the value of running back to
Speaker 1: that particular organization to some teams that might be a
Speaker 1: little bit more than it is to others. And the
Speaker 1: Cowboys said, you know, Tony Pollard one year Raiders Giants.
Speaker 1: I thought the Giants might get something done with Saquon Barkley,
Speaker 1: but they didn't. And it just really goes to show.
Speaker 1: And Barker is the number two picking a twenty eighteen draft. Man,
Speaker 1: it just goes to show that it is a tough,
Speaker 1: tough business playing running back in this league. And you
Speaker 1: wonder why it started to a passing league because a
Speaker 1: lot of guys that potentially go play running back way
Speaker 1: back in the day, they moved out the receiver. Look
Speaker 1: at what receivers are making, look at the contracts receivers
Speaker 1: are getting It's a tough business. But three teams have
Speaker 1: running backs on one year contracts and we'll see what
Speaker 1: that means for the Cowboys and maybe ze Kelly. Does
Speaker 1: Kellytt come back to play alongside Tony Pollard one of
Speaker 1: the Do these guys get traded to a team that
Speaker 1: does maybe value a running back or have some more
Speaker 1: money to pay a running back. It's gonna be really
Speaker 1: interesting to watch this whole thing unfold. But as of today,
Speaker 1: the deadline Pollard, Barkley Jacobs, no low long term deal completed,
Speaker 1: and that, my friends, is the show. The show is completed.
Speaker 1: Big thanks to Mark, to all of you for listening
Speaker 1: and appreciate Joe back at studio. Oh you guys, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for listening. We'll see tomorrow and as always,
Speaker 1: go Texans.