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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome into a Monday edition of Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access from the Hyundai Texans Radio studio. Hopefully you

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Speaker 1: all had a great weekend like Steph Curry dropping hole

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Speaker 1: in ones on par threes, whining golf tournaments. We are

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Speaker 1: the Steph Curry of your radio dial, John Harris alongside

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Speaker 1: the Voice of Texas Mark Vanamirre.

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Speaker 2: How'd you like that Steph Curry from deed?

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Speaker 3: That was awesome? He dunked it was terrific. He dunked

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Speaker 3: it and pure joy. That was great to see. I

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Speaker 3: love that tournament. I think they should do two or

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Speaker 3: three more of those in the off season of the NFL. So,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, everybody's got different offseasons. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how you coordinate.

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Speaker 1: All that with the owners meetings. Not a bad idea

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Speaker 1: Spring meetings. They put in a place where you can golf,

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Speaker 1: NFL golf tournament. Put it on live mic, everybody up.

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Speaker 1: It would be awesome. The coaches the match, do you remember?

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Speaker 1: I mean this the match was what a week and

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Speaker 1: a half ago. It was Mahomes and Kelsey versus Clay

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Speaker 1: and Steph and they're talking trashed or getting after each other.

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Speaker 1: It's hilarious. Yeah, I mean, it's absolutely awesome. It's some

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Speaker 1: of the it's it's really really good. I didn't see

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Speaker 1: all of it, but I saw enough of it to know,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I want to keep watching this.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's watching that Quarterback series now, so you're seeing a

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Speaker 3: lot of stuff about much as you've seen just one episode.

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Speaker 3: I know, I'm way behind it. Pretty good, it is good.

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Speaker 1: It's good. I mean, listen, you're not gonna get everything

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Speaker 1: broken down, but you're gonna hear more play calls than

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Speaker 1: you've ever heard in your life. Yep, and they will

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Speaker 1: blow your ever loving mind. They will blow your mind.

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking to you, I'm just talking to people

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Speaker 1: in general, like, wait a pass is that long? Yep? Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Wait till you hear, Wait till you hear. Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: called one of the plays for the Vikings all the

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Speaker 1: way through. It's it's it's incredible. It's really cool.

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Speaker 3: It goes to show you how hard it is to

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Speaker 3: play this position. And a guy like Cousins can last

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Speaker 3: as long as he has. And I know he takes

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Speaker 3: a lot of heat. He's won a lot of football games. Okay,

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Speaker 3: He's not perfect. We all know that he's won a

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Speaker 3: lot of football games. I think this is particularly good

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Speaker 3: for the Vikings fans to see that he's an actual

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Speaker 3: human being. That helps too. And the guy who made

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Speaker 3: the biggest play in the last how many years of

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Speaker 3: Vikings history, Actually he's in this building. That's Case Keenum.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, and Diggs obviously is a huge part of that.

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Speaker 3: But I'm saying the guy who pulled the trigger.

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Speaker 1: Off, you could say Case that's a top ten play

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Speaker 1: all time NFL given the situations. It's playoffs, it ends

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Speaker 3: Yep, it's huge.

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Speaker 2: Although they did bring him back out to kick the

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about Vikings history. I know they haven't

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Speaker 3: been to the super Bowl since the seventies. They went

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Speaker 3: to four and lost them all kids, but Grant was

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Speaker 3: the head of playing there wrong way. Marshall was a fit.

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Speaker 3: Maybe their most famous play ever Johnny and negative. It's

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Speaker 3: a negative that might have been their most famous play

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Speaker 3: ever till the miracle. That says a lot about Case. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he was able to execute that thing. Of course, I

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Speaker 3: did a training camp position break down. You want to

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Speaker 3: every player. As I go through and I get the

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Speaker 3: case and I'm writing about Case and as I'm writing

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Speaker 3: about it, like, man, this guy's seen it all.

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Speaker 1: He's done it all. I mean, he has those two

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Speaker 1: eighteen to the Broncos and he through for about thirty

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Speaker 1: him that night. He's bringing them back. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: McManus doesn't kick it wide right, I mean.

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Speaker 3: They make that kick. That's not an impossible kick, it's

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Speaker 3: not he makes that kick. Case Keenum beats the textall

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Speaker 3: that kick flew.

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Speaker 1: Over my head.

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Speaker 2: Mark it flew.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we all know the famous story of my

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Speaker 2: He makes that Broncos get another win.

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Speaker 2: You know, it just didn't work in Denver for whatever reason.

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Speaker 1: But it made me think about Case and and just

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Speaker 1: And then he has that, you know, statistically put up

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Speaker 1: Then he's got to come out of a deer blinded story,

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Speaker 1: he told us, which was great. He wins the last

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Speaker 1: amazing the journey he's been on. And I start thinking

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Speaker 1: lot of people put them on the field, he'd be great.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, look, cas is thirty you know, five thirty six.

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Speaker 1: Right now, it's this is not designed for Case to

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Speaker 1: but not to be a seventeen week starter, not not

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Speaker 3: Are still there are a lot of people that don't

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Speaker 3: understand that right now, some people will assume that he's

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Speaker 3: up being the backup here. I don't know. But the

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Mark, and I think this about Case,

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Speaker 1: Keenan and there might be a few others, but I

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Speaker 1: think Case has immense value to this team beyond anything

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Speaker 1: you have players on your team that don't set foot

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Speaker 1: Do their leadership, just the way that they're able to

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Speaker 1: staff that's young and new. Yeah, I mean I think

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Speaker 1: Case is older than drot Oh yeah, Drawd Johnson. I'm

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Speaker 3: Those guys could talk about a lot. Of course, he's older,

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Speaker 3: Wait is he close? It's close to those But because

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Speaker 3: it's close. It's close, but it feels like he's older.

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Speaker 1: Right because case has seen some things and done some things.

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Speaker 1: Now we're gonna get in some coaches a little bit later.

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Speaker 1: One of the guys that case Key ended up throwing

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Speaker 1: Hopkins. We're gonna talk about the DeAndre Hopkins because he

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Speaker 1: is now a member of the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 2: Mark.

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Speaker 1: We do this every now and again on Mondays sometimes

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Speaker 1: during the season because there's so much going on. Your

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Speaker 1: gut reaction when you saw the news this weekend at

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins is going to make his way to Nashville

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Speaker 1: as a member of the Titans, all right.

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Speaker 3: I hate seeing this for a variety of reasons. I

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Speaker 3: don't like seeing I didn't like seeing Andre Johnson go

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Speaker 3: seeing DeAndre Hopkins go to the Titans in the division

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Speaker 3: I don't like to see it. So from that standpoint,

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Speaker 3: I hate it. I want him in the NFC. If

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Speaker 3: far away. Now wend would have been preferable to me,

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Speaker 3: just as a Texans guy, right, I want to see

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Speaker 3: him not here, not around us, because it is kind

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Speaker 3: of painful. Look, I love DeAndre Hopkins. He was a

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Speaker 3: beloved player here. He was tremendous. I really enjoyed talking

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Speaker 3: with him. You did, too, You talked to with him

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Speaker 3: more than I did. But every time I've talked with him,

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Speaker 3: I think I thanked him three or four times just

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Speaker 3: for his service while he was here. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: your service. Thank you for all those touchdowns and amazing

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Speaker 3: catches and look, doing what I do. I'm really grateful

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Speaker 3: for a guy like DeAndre Hopkins. He was a spectacular

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Speaker 3: he's in Nashville. I don't know how good he is anymore.

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Speaker 3: I think he's still pretty good, all right. I don't

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Speaker 3: But it could be really good. At the same time,

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Speaker 3: who knows, we'll see, we'll we're all gonna we're all

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Speaker 3: gonna watch it together. Texans don't face the Titans till

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Speaker 3: what they are like at that point. Who's playing quarterback?

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Speaker 1: So we had a text threat going between you and

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Speaker 1: I and Deep and Drew. It was on Sunday, and

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Speaker 1: Drew just texted with the Twitter notice, and that's what

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Speaker 1: talk about, oh, he's got he can come back to Houston.

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Speaker 2: They need a receiver. This is a big fit. Doesn't

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Speaker 2: always work like that.

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Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of things that are

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Speaker 1: you already had committed to Robert Woods. I think Robert's

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Speaker 1: your oldest receiver. I believe who else will be older. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: know you know people like, well, you didn't have to

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Speaker 1: go sign Wood, you could have signed Hopall. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: you didn't know Hopkins was gonna be available until around

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Speaker 1: gotta find some stuff out about. Look this, I don't

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Speaker 1: know where John Metchi stands in in in his arrival

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Speaker 2: Almost all of them combined.

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Speaker 1: It feels weird. It's like, are they all in to

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm all in for that.

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Speaker 1: of want to two you two and one, you know why,

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Speaker 1: You're looking good, But then you lose the call.

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Speaker 3: You know it is one of the things that's so

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Speaker 3: tough about this game is those kinds of things. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you made the play, and we all know it's a

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Speaker 3: fine line, but it's the old Van Gundy thing. You

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Speaker 3: can't ignore in victory what you wouldn't in defeat. You

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Speaker 3: have to account for that. Hey, we were in a

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Speaker 3: situation where Gardner Minshaw was about to beat us, so

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Speaker 3: we clearly have to improve off of that. It's kind

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Speaker 3: of like, I'm gonna make the analogy here. It's kind

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Speaker 3: of like my golf game. Right, you hit the ball

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Speaker 3: six inches one way or to the other. Well, now

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Speaker 3: it's in the trap. It was gonna bounce out of

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Speaker 3: the trap and maybe roll out of the green, and

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Speaker 3: I'm putting in a two putt a i could par

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Speaker 3: the whole or but now I'm in the sand and

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Speaker 3: it's a tough lie and here comes three more strokes

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Speaker 3: or maybe four. Right, So that's football, also, that fine line.

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Speaker 3: You have, one bad thing happened. Okay, this might cause

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Speaker 3: you to change some things that are really gonna make

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Speaker 3: you better, or you got away with it. Are you

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Speaker 3: fat and happy? Are you still adjusting? Are you taking

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Speaker 3: into account that you're not as good as you think

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Speaker 3: you are. But you are winning. Okay, let's see how

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Speaker 3: we can get better.

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Speaker 2: Happens to tennis? Two one points all it takes.

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Speaker 1: If you watch Joker taking on Altcraz yesterday, Man, what

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Speaker 1: an athletic performance that was just I mean, that's that

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Speaker 1: sports performance was just incredible. It was cool. So they

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Speaker 1: were they were so funny.

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Speaker 3: But Johnny, so it's four and a half hours, four

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Speaker 3: forty five, I'm sorry, all right. I took the little

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Speaker 3: kids skating and came back and still got to watch it.

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Speaker 1: Had consume That's why I consumed it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's on, right, it's but here's the problem

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Speaker 3: with tennis. It's on and you, oh you missed that point,

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Speaker 3: right because you're looking away. Golf you can kind of

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Speaker 3: all right, I'll rewind that. I know you can rewind

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Speaker 3: the tennis too, But then so much has happened since,

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Speaker 3: so it's a hard sport to ignore or ignore just

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Speaker 3: to have on in the background and really enjoy it

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Speaker 3: at the same time.

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Speaker 1: No doubt. But it was definitely enjoyable for sure. Now

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Speaker 1: we've been talking about Mike Vrabel a little bit, did

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Speaker 1: throwing Doug Peterson a little bit PFF, excuse me, PFT.

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk has ranked their top ten coaches in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. They're up through six. Ten through six to

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Speaker 1: have to name their top five. CBS Sports is rated

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Speaker 1: one through thirty two. They are remarkably different. Next on

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access, Welcome back to this Monday edition of

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Texans Radio studio. Mark and

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Speaker 1: John with you, and Mark pointed this out to me,

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Speaker 1: and then I added another piece to this. Mike Florio

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Speaker 1: is doing his coaching rankings, and he's just doing a

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Speaker 1: top ten of the coaching rankings, and he's not gotten

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Speaker 1: all the way through the top ten, but he's got

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Speaker 1: five and two of them come from the the AFC South.

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Speaker 1: The five that we think are not listed, we'll get

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Speaker 1: to those in a second. But here's what Mike Florio

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Speaker 1: has for best coaches in the NFL. And we're gonna

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Speaker 1: compare this to what Cody Benjamin did on CBS Sports

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Speaker 1: because Cody did one through thirty two. So it means

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Speaker 1: our pal Demico Ryans is named in that listing. I

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Speaker 1: was a little surprised by his ranking, and I'll we'll

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Speaker 1: give you the number a little bit later, but Here's

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Speaker 1: what Florio has right now. Ted best coach in the league,

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, Jaguars, ninth best, Mike Rabel Tennessee Titans, number eight,

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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine Ers head coach Kyle Shanahan, number

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Speaker 1: seven Rams head coach Sean McVay, and number six Broncos

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Speaker 1: head coach Sean Payton.

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Speaker 2: I saw those five, Mark, I had a little bit

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Speaker 2: of an issue.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we had a bit of an issue. Do you

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Speaker 3: have an issue? Let me guess here? Does Rabel belong

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Speaker 3: in that company? He's been to one conference championship game,

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Speaker 3: He's coming off a losing season. What have you done

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Speaker 3: seven in a row? What have you done for me lately?

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Speaker 3: Does figure in? Because I know I just firmly believe

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Speaker 3: that when his top five comes out, and we can

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Speaker 3: guess who the top five is for Florio. He hasn't

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Speaker 3: named him yet, but when they come out, Belichick's not

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Speaker 3: going to be number one. I think he'll put read

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Speaker 3: number one.

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Speaker 1: I think it'll be number one, Andy Reid, Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: Steelers coach Mike Tomlin, Ravens coach John Harbaugh, Eagles coach

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Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni. At least that's what we surmise. That's that's

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Speaker 1: that's the deal.

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Speaker 3: Can I start with you there though, in that top

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Speaker 3: five in no particular order, is there anybody in the

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Speaker 3: five that does not belong in that five?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to talk about what have

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Speaker 1: you done for me lately? I mean John Harbaugh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And if you want to push push down up a.

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Speaker 3: Little bit Tomlin, it feels like Tomlin a little bit,

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Speaker 3: Belichick a little bit see Tomlin, Yeah, I guess so,

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Speaker 3: but Tomlin especially, it feels like if you criticize Tomlin,

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Speaker 3: it's like criticizing the Pope in the middle of Vatican City,

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Speaker 3: right true, no matter where you are, because everybody has

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Speaker 3: such great respect for him, and rightfully so. I thought

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Speaker 3: last year he did a hell of a job breaking

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Speaker 3: in a new quarterback, and he also did a hell

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Speaker 3: of a job squeezing whatever football life that was left

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Speaker 3: out of Ben Roethlisberger.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't have much an issue with Tomlin

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Speaker 1: as I do Harball. But if you're going, if you're

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Speaker 1: going on that, and you know they want some games

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore, don' think there's any question. I think John

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Speaker 1: is a tremendous.

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Speaker 3: Making the playoffs last year was a pretty good achievement

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Speaker 3: considering Lamar Jackson's health.

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Speaker 1: Right, But here's kind of my this is, this is

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Speaker 1: my issue to have harball head of Kyle Shanahan. Now,

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Speaker 1: I know Kyle's not perfect and he had a run

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Speaker 1: there where it was it was a little dicey, But

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Speaker 1: they've gone to the NFC Championship game in the last

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Speaker 1: two years. He's thought to be, if not the best

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Speaker 1: play caller in the league a teen and Andy reid

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Speaker 1: Off it's play caller.

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Speaker 2: You got to give him credit for that as well.

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Speaker 1: Now he's got a roster that has been built up,

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Speaker 1: and I think Kyle shann has a really good coach

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Speaker 1: when it comes to well is this guy the best?

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Speaker 1: You asked me this a lot of times. You know

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Speaker 1: who's better? Yeah? I always think about this. In one

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Speaker 1: game scenario, with the same talent on each side, which

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Speaker 1: coach do I want? Unfortunately, I would say Frabel. I

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Speaker 1: would want Frabel over Shanhan number of these guys over

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Speaker 1: a number of these guys, I would want Frabel because

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Speaker 1: I think Vrabel is going to get the most out

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Speaker 1: of whatever he has, and if he's got high end talent,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get even more if he's got low end talent.

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Speaker 1: And what's the old saying, he's gonna make good great,

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Speaker 1: He's gonna make great, elite. He's gonna make elite championship level,

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Speaker 1: or however it goes.

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Speaker 2: But Rabel is a.

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Speaker 1: Guy that I I want, I want leading that team.

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Speaker 3: Here's I think he's an incredible football coach, and that

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Speaker 3: roster has not been good, hence Ran Carthon coming in

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Speaker 3: to be to be the GM.

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Speaker 1: But I have issues with the two Shawn's Okay McVeigh,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, they went out and they obtained Now

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Speaker 1: McVeigh was was driving the bus. He makes the personnel

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Speaker 1: decisions with the Rams, I mean less sneed did all

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Speaker 1: the behind the scenes work. But you know McVeigh pulled

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Speaker 1: the trigger so that I mean, look, that's that's part

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Speaker 1: of being the coach of that team.

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Speaker 2: So you got to give him credit for that.

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Speaker 1: But when that talent was hurt last year, and that

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Speaker 1: talent was not there, when von Miller was now in

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Speaker 1: Buffalo and Matt Stafford was hanged up, when Andrew Whitworth

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Speaker 1: had retired, still had Aaron Donald.

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Speaker 3: What did the Rams do? Not much much? They went

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Speaker 3: five and twelve, Johnny five and twelve.

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Speaker 1: Mm hm.

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Speaker 3: But I will say this, that's his first losing season.

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Speaker 1: I'll give him that. I'll give him that.

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Speaker 2: So I don't have as much of McVeigh.

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Speaker 1: I do think it's not I don't like Shanahan being

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Speaker 1: in front of McVeigh. I don't like that you could

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Speaker 1: swap those not be okay with that. Sean Payton, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. The whole coaching search was Sean Payton this

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Speaker 1: past year. I'm like, I mean, I get it. You know,

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Speaker 1: he won a super Bowl that was fourteen years ago. Yeah, Mike,

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy won a Super Bowl before that in twenty ten.

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Speaker 3: It bought him a lot of years. You win a

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Speaker 3: super Bowl and you keep winning even though you're not

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Speaker 3: winning championships, it's gonna buy you a lot of time.

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Speaker 1: I e.

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Speaker 3: Harball, Tomlin, all these guys right, if you were I'll

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Speaker 3: put it this way, if Tomlin and Harball had never

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Speaker 3: won a Super Bowl, but every other season is exactly

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Speaker 3: the way it is. For that you just eliminate their

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Speaker 3: championship year, they wouldn't have lasted this long. There's no

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Speaker 3: way you'd get frustrated. You'd say, no, they're not getting

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Speaker 3: over the top. They can't do it. They can't do it.

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Speaker 3: They're gone. Peyton the same thing. Although Peyton after having

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Speaker 3: what three consecutive losing seasons after going to the Greenbrier,

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Speaker 3: which is kind of weird, but three consecutive losing seasons,

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Speaker 3: then he got it going again once they left the

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Speaker 3: Green Brier. I'm not really trying to throw the Green

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Speaker 3: Brier into the bus here. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 3: I'd like to put the Green Briers a possible future

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Speaker 3: Texans training camp destination because I'd like to go back.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but that's my brons are going there this fall

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Speaker 1: or this summer.

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Speaker 3: Just for a little bit, right, just for a little bit, just.

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Speaker 1: For a little bit. Let's go to CBS. Just their list.

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Speaker 1: Their list is remarkably different. Let's start at ten. That's

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Speaker 1: not different. Doug Peterson number nine. This might be when

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Speaker 1: we forgot But I don't know how you squeez him in.

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll number nine.

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Speaker 3: Who's he gonna take out?

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Speaker 1: See?

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Speaker 3: I could say that he might take out Tom lein

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Speaker 3: Ard Harbaugh.

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Speaker 1: I think he might take one of those out. Eight,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton HM seven, Sean McDermott bills number six Tomlin

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Speaker 1: or five Harbaugh for McVeigh, three Belichick, two Shanahan and

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Speaker 1: one Andy Reid. Now, I would probably say I'm a

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Speaker 1: little bit closer going with that ten than Flourius ten.

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Speaker 1: But we don't know the top five. Did Pete Carroll

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Speaker 1: make the make the top five? I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: thought Pete did a really good coaching job last year

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Speaker 1: without Russell Wilson. Yeah, you know, the guy that had

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Speaker 1: been the face of the franchise. They trade him, they

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Speaker 1: get a huge haul back you want to hot take,

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Speaker 1: and then they get into the playoffs with Gino Smith.

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Speaker 3: You tell me how many sizzle fires this should get

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Speaker 3: Pete Carroll over Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's five and a half. That's five plus. That's five,

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Speaker 1: that's five plus. I'm not gonna argue with Pete Carroll

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Speaker 1: being one hell of football coach. I believe in Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: I think the way that maybe I'm a little bit

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Speaker 1: biased because I just heard that play Callers podcast and

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Speaker 1: so I'm listening to you know, how he handles things

647
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Speaker 1: and how he does things, and it just jives with

648
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Speaker 1: the way that I think about football. So maybe maybe

649
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: it's that. But Kyle Shanahan the last couple of years

650
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Speaker 1: gone to NFC Championship game, went to the super Bowl

651
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: in nineteen, so he went to the super Bowl nineteen

652
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: and then twenty one and twenty two, he gets the

653
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Speaker 1: NFC Championship Game. They lose this one because they're on

654
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Speaker 1: their fifth quarterback. Yeah, he turned Rock Party into Brock

655
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Speaker 1: freaking Party.

656
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think hand but he never had the

657
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Speaker 3: stability at quarterback that Pete Carroll has had with Russell

658
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Speaker 3: Wilson going good. Now, you have to give Carol a

659
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Speaker 3: lot of credit for that, but he hasn't. He's done

660
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Speaker 3: it one year without him done it, meaning make the playoffs.

661
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: Shanahan six years, three losing seasons, three winning seasons, but

662
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Speaker 3: the winning seasons have been really good. Yeah, And that's

663
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Speaker 3: the thing I do think, and I thought previously that

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Speaker 3: he was a little over inflated, but getting to the

665
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Speaker 3: conference championship game the year before last and especially last

666
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: year like you brought it out with Brock Purdy is

667
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: super impressive. But I think Pete Carroll is almost as

668
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Speaker 3: good as it gets because you look at his record

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Speaker 3: over the years, Johnny, it is incredibly impressive. He had

670
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Speaker 3: the one losing season in twenty twenty one. Everything else

671
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Speaker 3: since getting in Seattle, since getting Wilson has been a

672
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Speaker 3: winning campaign, if not a super Bowl campaign. He won

673
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Speaker 3: a super Bowl, lost to Super Bowl. Hey, maybe he's

674
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: one of those guys like I poured it out. He

675
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 3: lost to Super Bowl in twenty fourteen on the interception

676
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Speaker 3: by Malcolm Butler. Since then, he hasn't made it to

677
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Speaker 3: the conference championship, but he's made a lot of playoff appearances.

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Speaker 3: He's made what six playoff appearances, hasn't won a ton

679
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 3: of playoff games, but a lot of winning seasons, only

680
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Speaker 3: one losing season. Had he not have those Super bowls,

681
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Speaker 3: which I get is a big exception, you'd be saying, oh,

682
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Speaker 3: he can't get over the top.

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Speaker 1: He's got to go.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like that Harbaugh, Tomlin, that category of

685
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 3: guys who like and Peyton as well, you know who.

686
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 3: All right, you won a super Bowl a long time ago,

687
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: but we're gonna wait because we know you can do it.

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Speaker 1: On CBS Sports, yeah, they have raybo at thirteen, they

689
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Speaker 1: have Syrian on at twelve.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty low.

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Speaker 1: And they went they had the Florida eleven. So it

692
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Speaker 1: feels a little bit like experience. Yeah, played a big role,

693
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Speaker 1: but why have did you say the number one guy

694
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Speaker 1: yet and you Reid?

695
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Why have Reid and Shanahana had a Belichick? Then?

696
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Speaker 2: Come on? Yeah?

697
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Speaker 3: I mean, why are you slamming Belichick for not doing

698
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 3: well lately? He made the playoffs with mac Jones Mac

699
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: jones first year, had one bad year with mac Jones,

700
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Speaker 3: and then the year before that obviously Cam Newton. It

701
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Speaker 3: didn't work out in Brady's first year out of the building.

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Speaker 1: I'm not buying this complete argument, but I can see

703
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Speaker 1: people saying, look, how good is Belichick without Brady? Right?

704
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Speaker 2: All right, So I'm not buying it.

705
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Speaker 1: But if you go just purely on numbers, how good

706
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Speaker 1: has he been without Brady in the last three years?

707
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Speaker 1: He's without Brady and again he's without Brady at twenty

708
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Speaker 1: twenty three, So how good is he without braidining.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a very important year to determine that.

710
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Speaker 3: Not that they're loaded at quarterback because they have Mac

711
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: Joness and animal see how it goes.

712
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: And number three, number three ranked OC in the league

713
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Speaker 1: with Bill O'Brien, So they have him, And I mean

714
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: I say that partly in cheek, but yeah, partly tongue

715
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Speaker 1: watch and cheek.

716
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: But supposed to be. And we went over the OCAs

717
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: and we thought at that point, we thought, but then, okay,

718
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Speaker 3: with all the turnover at the offensive coordinator position. There's

719
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Speaker 3: a lot of I hear a lot of people who

720
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Speaker 3: just don't understand the history of the league though, And

721
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Speaker 3: when you have these arguments, Belichick did win a playoff

722
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Speaker 3: game without Brady in Cleveland. Yes, he had Vinnie right,

723
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Speaker 3: so long ago, people, I know, before the internet, It

724
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Speaker 3: was before the It was in ninety four. There was

725
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Speaker 3: a internet. There was Commodore sixty four, aol America online. Anyway,

726
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Speaker 3: he beat Bill Parcells and Drew Bloodsoe in Cleveland.

727
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Speaker 1: He did very much. So, all right, where do you

728
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Speaker 1: think Dimico comes in at one through thirty two?

729
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Speaker 3: Well, you sounded surprise, So I would bet it's sort

730
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Speaker 3: of high, like twenty four or something.

731
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Speaker 1: Oh good, twenty five, twenty five, Now I start feel

732
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Speaker 1: good about it. He's ahead one ahead of Robert sala As.

733
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Speaker 1: At twenty six. He is a few ahead Arthur Smith.

734
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Speaker 1: I think Arthur's a better coach than they gave him

735
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Speaker 1: credit for he's five in front of Josh McDaniels, McDaniels

736
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Speaker 1: at thirty.

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Speaker 3: Well, McDaniels, what have you done for me? Ever as

738
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Speaker 3: a head coach?

739
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Ganne at thirty one, Matty Eberflus thirty two. Then

740
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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, that's pretty good. Guess there's one

741
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Speaker 1: spot ahead of Demiko Ryans think Indianapolis.

742
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Speaker 3: So Shane Steiken, yes, is going to get the nod

743
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Speaker 3: over Tomico.

744
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: That feels why, like why, really why?

745
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe maybe it's this Super Bowl appearance

746
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: as an offensive coordinator with the Chargers. They got the

747
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: most out of Justin Herbert and then they go to

748
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia and now he's got to do it.

749
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Speaker 2: So maybe there's some of that, I guess.

750
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Speaker 1: But then you gotta give to Migo credit for his

751
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: defenses in San Francisco and.

752
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Speaker 3: All this is speck anyway, right, These guys have never

753
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: coached the game as a head coach. It is fun

754
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: to rank them, But next year we're gonna have a

755
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: lot of body of work to look at, at least a

756
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: little body of work relatives with some of some of

757
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: these other guys who have been coaching for two decades

758
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 3: or more.

759
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike McDaniel for the Dolphins at eighteen, Kevin o'c

760
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: college seventeen, Frank Reich comes into sixteen, and this is

761
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Speaker 1: one I would I know, it's only one year, so

762
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Speaker 1: there's not a body of work I and part of

763
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Speaker 1: it is because I don't know, maybe I feel a

764
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: little bit embarrassed. I thought the Giants were gonna absolutely

765
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: stink last year. I thought they were gonna be awful.

766
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, like Dables, a good coach, but got them

767
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Speaker 1: to the playoffs and beat.

768
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Speaker 2: Minnesota at Minnesota at Minnesota. Yah.

769
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Speaker 1: They got housed the next week by the Eagles in

770
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Speaker 1: their division. Brian Dables really good football coaching, a really

771
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Speaker 1: good head coach. He's in at fifteen. It's probably about right.

772
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Speaker 1: Give him another couple of years and see what he

773
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Speaker 1: can do. And I don't know if Daniel Jones ever

774
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 1: ends up being that guy for them, but that's.

775
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Speaker 2: He's a he's a I was really impressed.

776
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Speaker 1: They didn't really do a ton to us where I went, like,

777
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 1: you know, scheme wise, this it was just the fact

778
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Speaker 1: that they took care of business against us and knew, okay,

779
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Speaker 1: And this is the one thing that Belichick gets a

780
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Speaker 1: lot of credit for, and we've give him a credit

781
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Speaker 1: for because Bill O'Brian just tell us all the time

782
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Speaker 1: that in the first quarter, in the first quarter that

783
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: Belichick would walk over to Obi and say, Hey, this

784
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: is this is a running kind of game. This is

785
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Speaker 1: gonna be an aired out kind of game. This is

786
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Speaker 1: gonna be a thirty seven to thirty four kind of games.

787
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Speaker 1: So make sure and and they will seem to have

788
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 1: that kind of figured out, like what kind of game

789
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: the Giants needed to play to win?

790
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Speaker 3: Very parcels Ian, Yes, very much so, very nice fit

791
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 3: in New York. He went to high school in Western

792
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: New York near Buffalo. There's something about him when you

793
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 3: see him, you feel like that's a good fit. Gable winning.

794
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: It just's gonna be a good right for them.

795
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Speaker 3: And I'm glad we don't have to play them this year,

796
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: but you know we'll see like, oh.

797
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: Man watching Dexter Lawrence not having to play him. Oh

798
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: thank god, oh man, that was a murderers row that

799
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: we were facing from the NFC East last year. So

800
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: thankfully we don't have to face them, but we'll face others,

801
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: including Mike Rabels, Guy Jeffrey Simmons.

802
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 2: All right, we get back. We'll go round the league.

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Speaker 2: Eight new news.

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Speaker 1: We'll touch on the other side right here on Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access. What's happened everybody? Welcome back to this Monday

806
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Speaker 1: edition of Texans All Access. I'm your host, John Harris,

807
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Speaker 1: Football on out sideline Report. Appreciate you being with me

808
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: as we are nine days from Mark and I going

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Speaker 1: live at eight am. That's a Wednesday, July twenty six,

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Speaker 1: as we kick off Texans training camp twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Cannot wait, cannot wait for that to happen.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's go around the league and the theme

813
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Speaker 1: of the first segment was DeAndre Hopkins AFC South. The

814
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Speaker 1: theme of the second segment was hey coaches in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: The third segment is all about the running backs and

816
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: it's not good news. Three running backs were tagged, meaning

817
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: they got the franchise tag Cowboys Tony Pollard, Giant Saquon

818
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: Barkley and the Raiders Josh Jacobs. They had until three

819
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Speaker 1: o'clock Local time four o'clock Eastern time to get a

820
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Speaker 1: long term deal done.

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Speaker 2: None of them got a deal done.

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Speaker 1: All three running backs as long as they signed the

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Speaker 1: franchise tender. We'll be playing this year under a one

824
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Speaker 1: year contract. And it has kicked over a hornet's nest

825
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Speaker 1: of so many different thoughts about NFL running backs, the

826
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Speaker 1: expendability of NFL running backs. I've seen a lot of

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Speaker 1: people espouse their theories about NFL running backs. I think

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Speaker 1: Matt Miller from ESPN put he would draft the running

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Speaker 1: back if he's good, give him a one year franchise deal,

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Speaker 1: and then draft another one and go from there. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not totally opposed to that that line

832
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: of thought either. My thought on running backs has always

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00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: been you ride that running back, and you ride that

834
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Speaker 1: running back, and if it's good, you keep riding. If

835
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Speaker 1: at some point it breaks, there are gonna be plenty

836
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Speaker 1: of This is a supply and demand business, and it

837
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Speaker 1: stinks for running backs, it really does. And there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that think a lot like me

839
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: in the league. But if you get a great one,

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00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, Christian McCaffrey, someone of that ill keeping Dalvin Cook.

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00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: I mean, David's on a second contract with the Vikings.

842
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: It was super successful with that second contract. When you

843
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: find a great one, you keep him. The key to

844
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: on a second contract has been in most cases, it's

845
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: guys that give you something extra. You know, Arion Foster,

846
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: he was gonna give you sixty to sixty five catches.

847
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: McCaffrey one, you had eighty eight catches or ninety catches.

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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook has always been a really good receiver out

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Speaker 1: of the backfield. So you add that extra something, that

850
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: little I should say little catch the ball in the backfield.

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00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: I mean the guy turned into a receiver, take less carries,

852
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: play on third down, you know, have another at that

853
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: goes right along with you. And I think the Texans

854
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: sort of benefited from that line of thinking with Devin Singletary.

855
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: The Bills felt like, man, we gave this guy four

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00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: years of a lot of touches and we don't know

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Speaker 1: that we want to re up with him. Texas ended

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Speaker 1: up signing Devin Singletary, and I think it's going to

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Speaker 1: be for the betterment of the twenty twenty three team

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Speaker 1: and hopefully for the betterment of Devin to show that

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Speaker 1: he can do a little bit more. He can be

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Speaker 1: even better in the third down game, and he can

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Speaker 1: be a great complimentary piece, side pick up, whatever you

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Speaker 1: want to call it to Damian Pierce. They can be

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Speaker 1: a one A one B sort of situation. Running Backs

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Speaker 1: are tricky man's and it's rough. I mean, I love

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Speaker 1: these guys, love the running backs that have come into

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Speaker 1: the Texans room. Maybe not so much lately. I love

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Speaker 1: his guys, but they just haven't been great running backs.

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Speaker 1: But Damien's going to be up against this in a

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Speaker 1: couple of years, like, what is the value of a

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Speaker 1: running back? What is the value of running back to

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Speaker 1: that particular organization to some teams that might be a

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Speaker 1: little bit more than it is to others. And the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys said, you know, Tony Pollard one year Raiders Giants.

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Speaker 1: I thought the Giants might get something done with Saquon Barkley,

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Speaker 1: but they didn't. And it just really goes to show.

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Speaker 1: And Barker is the number two picking a twenty eighteen draft. Man,

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Speaker 1: it just goes to show that it is a tough,

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Speaker 1: tough business playing running back in this league. And you

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Speaker 1: wonder why it started to a passing league because a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys that potentially go play running back way

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Speaker 1: back in the day, they moved out the receiver. Look

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Speaker 1: at what receivers are making, look at the contracts receivers

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Speaker 1: are getting It's a tough business. But three teams have

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Speaker 1: running backs on one year contracts and we'll see what

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Speaker 1: that means for the Cowboys and maybe ze Kelly. Does

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Speaker 1: Kellytt come back to play alongside Tony Pollard one of

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Speaker 1: the Do these guys get traded to a team that

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Speaker 1: does maybe value a running back or have some more

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Speaker 1: money to pay a running back. It's gonna be really

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Speaker 1: interesting to watch this whole thing unfold. But as of today,

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Speaker 1: the deadline Pollard, Barkley Jacobs, no low long term deal completed,

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Speaker 1: and that, my friends, is the show. The show is completed.

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Speaker 1: Big thanks to Mark, to all of you for listening

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Speaker 1: and appreciate Joe back at studio. Oh you guys, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for listening. We'll see tomorrow and as always,

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Speaker 1: go Texans.