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So that's gonna be crazy. 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:02.120 I'm rolling in it. 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:04.080 This is very much in a lickxer. 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.800 You're gonna need to buy baby formula after you read this, 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.839 you know what I'm saying. You're gonna be so happy 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.520 with the information that you've gotten. I'm telling you, I 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:15.880 feel like we're over selling Star Magazine Draft Guide. 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.240 There's no such thing as over selling this magazine. 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:22.440 That's true because it's got a Tommy from the Internet feature. 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.200 All right, Uh, we got to get into some backup 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.840 quarterback talk because we haven't talked about it. Of course, 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.280 it happens all the time. I don't know why we 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.400 even I don't even know why we even record on 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.240 Tuesdays because it happens either right after the show on 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:38.680 Tuesday or going into like Wednesday or Thursday. 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:40.600 We just gotta shift an hour base, yeah. 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.160 And then we'll be fine. But Joe Milton is now 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:45.920 a Dallas Cowboy. That's the biggest news and note of 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.639 the week because Cowboys trade a fifth round pick, they 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.680 get a seventh and Joe Milton in return, and instead 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.919 of using a draft pick on a possible backup quarterback. 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:57.560 Is what they were going to do, if they were 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.520 going to do it. We think it shocked about it. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.600 Go and get guy, get a guy, go and get 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:03.440 a guy, and got a guy. 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:07.160 Yeah, and I much approve of this over what they 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.800 did to acquire Trey Lance and sending away that fourth 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:11.600 round pick and you got the player. 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:12.800 But we don't have to talk about that. 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.240 It kind kind of do you kind of do because 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:16.440 you got to make over. 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.600 You got a difference a fourth round and a fifth 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:20.639 round trade. 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:22.080 But also you know what I mean, you also got 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.320 the seventh back with of course, of course, of course, 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.839 so it was it was much less of an expensive pick. 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:28.920 It wasn't expensive at all really so and then when 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:32.240 you look at Joe Milton, I'm not going there with you. 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:33.120 Cow would you? 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.960 It's one of the comments, okay when you it's got it. 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.400 We got a great opportunity for comment of the early 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.840 early but I can't sit. I don't think I can 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:44.280 say it on the air. I don't know if I 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.320 can say it. We gotta figure it out, say Kyle, 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:48.440 nice job, Chris, great jobs. I'm gonna say it, no 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.600 are you? Oh, Cowward? Keep going. 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.400 So we got a cowboys got themselves, a twenty five 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:55.760 year old with a cannon of an arm. 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:57.240 Cannon of an arm. 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.400 Spent time with New England obviously in twenty twenty four, 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.880 former sixth round pick by way of Tennessee, which is 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.920 by way of Michigan. So he has some definitely big 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.160 stage experience from those two programs. And he's coming in 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.720 and he's you know, gonna battle with Will Gear for 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.960 the right to back up you know, Dak Prescott. So 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:17.960 we'll see how it goes. I'm excited to get to 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.320 OTA's get the mini camp, get a training camp, and 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.600 really see what that looks like, because you know, over 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.080 the past couple of seasons or more in the Cooper 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.680 Rush era, the best shot at de throwning Cooper Rush 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:30.720 came a couple of seasons ago by way of Will Gear. 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:32.320 Yeah, and then that didn't. 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.120 Happen because Grier got injured and that's kind of what 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.960 derailed that, and then it ushered back in Cooper Rush, 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:38.760 and then they went and got Trey Lance, which was 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.680 never really a competition in their eyes, not the way 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:42.640 that they perceive. 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.039 You're talking about the twenty three preseason, right. 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.120 I want to say, yeah, before, well, well, when Will 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:50.359 Grill got went down injured because he was winning that 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:51.080 in training camp. 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:52.960 He was winning it in training camp. Then he got 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.960 he like had a growing it was it a growing 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.960 one of the it was a slight injury. He came back, 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.159 He played in the preseason in all three games, right. 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:03.400 I know he played in that last one because that 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.039 was kind of his last hurrah apparently. 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.040 So I don't know, not that one. I think it 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:09.400 was twenty two, was it before? 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.120 I think it was twenty two because it was if 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:16.080 memory serves me correctly, he's winning the training camp battle. 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:21.159 He gets injured and he's unable to finish out the 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.920 preseason and that's what derailed it from So then when 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:25.480 he tried to come back, I think he was then 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.120 made available again at that point on the practice squad. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:29.839 But he's made available again a few. 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.760 Games into the season, but by then Cooper Rush had 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:33.560 re solidified. 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.279 I think that's that was the season that there must. 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:40.520 Have been twenty of the calf that calf, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.800 because then Cooper went to Minnesota and solidified the backup 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:44.880 role and that was pretty. 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.680 Much twenty three. It was. They gave him a great shot, yeah, 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.640 the third and then traded for Trey Lance particular exactly. 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:53.640 Yeah, no, this I believe this was twenty two when 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:55.880 we all had a collective saying, hey, you know what, 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.159 Greer is in the lead here, and then the injury happened, 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.280 and then so forth and so on. But all that 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.440 to say, I'm looking forward to what will definitively be 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:04.240 a QB. 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:05.599 Competition behind Dak Prescott. 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:07.839 I know you trade it, but this is not you know, 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:13.840 excessive draft capital, which you know guarantees anything for Joe Milton. 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:15.920 I really think it's gonna be Greer versus Milton and 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.279 I had a couple of conversations kind of off the cuff, 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.600 off the record with Will Greer. He's looking forward to 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.000 the competition, like he's really looking to sharpen his teeth here. 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.400 So it's going to be fun and I'm ready for it. 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:27.400 That's an excellent take, Patrick, But I don't think there's 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:29.760 enough overreaction in their statement there. 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:33.440 Okay, so can you over react I'm telling you right 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:34.560 by week five? 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:38.000 No, not at all, Not at all. 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.279 I think it's a healthy competition going into training camp. Obviously, 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:44.160 you need the bodies there. I think having these two 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.680 quarterbacks behind Dak, behind Dak, let me be very clear, 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:51.680 be behind Dak to compete is a good thing and 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.000 only a good thing for the Dallas Cowboys. I would 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.280 like to see a full preseason for both quarterback or 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.680 a full preseason game for both quarterbacks. I would love 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.080 to see how they do in a full game situation. 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.400 But let's see how it plays out. I'm excited to 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:05.320 get to training camp now. 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:05.600 Yeah. 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:09.920 I think it's Chris, you really I know exactly what 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.080 you're talking about. So we're going to quickly transition away 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:16.120 from that good job, Chris. You know, when you look 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.360 at this, I think for both sides here and talking 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.480 about the Patriots and the Cowboys, it makes a lot 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.040 of sense. From Dallas's perspective, I don't know if you're 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.080 going to find a quarterback in the fifth round that 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.000 gives you a better chance or a better prospect than 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.480 Joe Milton does. I mean, how many quarterbacks are you 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.720 going to find that are six five two and forty 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.320 seven pounds and can throw the ball eight hundred yards. 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.320 I mean, you're just not going to find that very often. 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.880 So that's somebody that's worth taking a shot on. From 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:43.960 New England's perspective, they use a sixth round pick on 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.080 him last year after taking Drake May third overall, and 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.200 they get to move up in this year's draft from 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.120 it and only give up a seventh in return. So 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.680 I think it's win win for both sides. Joe Milton's 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.760 last year at Tennessee looked pretty good when he was 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.600 playing at his best twenty touchdowns to only five picks. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.600 Volunteers as a whole weren't really all that great that year, 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.360 but he showed you something. And then that last game 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.040 of the season, like you guys were talking about when 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:11.000 he started against Buffalo's second team defense at twenty two 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:12.640 for twenty nine for two hundred and forty one yards, 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.240 a touchdown, and then ran ten times for sixteen yards 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.240 and another score. So this is a guy who I 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.760 think if you get some more snaps whenever they come across, 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:23.720 whether it be you know you're gonna blowout and you 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:25.880 get to put him in there, or you're getting blown 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:27.120 out and you get to put him in there, kind 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:28.560 of like what you've seen with Cooper Rush over. 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:29.520 The lot like the second years. 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:34.160 Yeah, you shouldn't, but it happens, It happens. I think 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.800 he's positioned himself very well to be the backup quarterback 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.960 here and if if it was today, I think he is. 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:41.400 He would be my pick. 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:41.800 Over a Willgreer. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:43.960 And that's not a shot at Will Greer saying he 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.280 can't compete for the spot. I just think Joe Milton 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:47.160 gives you more options. 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.000 Yeah, it's all about the ceiling and the skill set 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.360 and how it matches up. We had heard from Brian 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:56.079 Schottenheimer years past that it does matter what the skill 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:58.040 set looks like, and he wants it to match up 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:01.599 correctly with Dak Prescott. I think Joe Milton is a 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.680 guy that's not a carbon copy of the two. But 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.679 if you're looking at Will Greer or Dak Prescott, you 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.160 could say the skill set not talent level, but the 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.920 skill set it mirrors Dak a little bit more so 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.480 than what Will Griers would. So it is kind of 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.120 an interesting tidbit. Plus, I went back and looked at 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.320 his draft grade last year. I had him as the 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.480 Cowboys fit in the Draft magazine last year, which is 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.000 another reason why you should buy the draft magazine. But 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:29.760 I had him as the Cowboys fit last year. And 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.240 if I were to take his grade and move it 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.520 without even putting his NFL body of work into it 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.880 from last year to this year, he would be QB 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:40.040 eight on my list. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:40.680 Oh wow. 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.199 So and the guys that I have in front of 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:46.520 him would be cam Ward of course, Jackson, Dard s Sheder Sanders, 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:50.880 Jalen Milroe, quin Yours, Riley, Leonard, Will Howard. That's it's 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:52.920 those are the guys. So if you're not going to 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:54.559 draft one of those guys where you don't want to 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.160 spend a first, second or third round pick, which we've 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.320 talked about that as a scenario on this show before 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.679 you didn't feel comfortable doing that. You feel pretty good 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:07.360 about Joe Milton. I think it's pretty consensus across Cowboys Nation, 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:11.559 which it's never really consistent, completely consensus, But this is 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:13.280 about as good of a move as you could make, 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.280 moving down forty six spots in the draft and picking 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.000 up a legitimate need that you were going to draft 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:23.000 in the first place anyways, without actually spending a quality 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:24.600 pick on it. And you still get to pick in 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.880 the fifth. Yep, you still get a couple swings at 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:28.640 it in the sixth, and you get an opportunity in 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:32.280 the seventh ten, and so yeah, you're just fine. Actually, 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:33.880 you get two picks in the fifth, two in the sixth, 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.840 and you got three in the second. It's all even doubt, 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:38.600 and you get rid of a need that or you 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:40.400 get a need that you were going to have to 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:41.120 address anyways. 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:42.560 I think one of the only knocks that you can 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.360 really have for him right now is that he hasn't 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.199 had a lot of attempts in his career. 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.280 I mean, obviously only had twenty nine. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.480 And you say the same thing for Trey Lance though. 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.640 Exactly that was going to be the exact comparison that 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.880 I made. It's another project in a way, but I 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:58.160 think there's more upside here, given that he did play 0:10:58.200 --> 0:10:59.840 a great game last year in Buffalo. 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:01.520 There's more upset and I think there's going to be 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.600 more opportunity to because Cooper Rush has been the staple 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.199 at that backup quarterback spot for the last however many 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:10.760 years he's been in Dallas, So now it's kind of like, Okay, well, 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.960 Cooper Rush is not there anymore. There's no real veteran 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:15.720 presence in that room. I don't know if we would 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:17.200 categorize will Career as veteran. 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:21.319 I don't think I would, But there's no in terms 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:23.480 of playing time. No, But he's been around the. 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.839 League in the league, yes, yeah, he's moved around the 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:26.679 league loose, but. 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:28.640 I'm speaking more about playing game. 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:29.520 Yeah, I get right. 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.920 So if that's what we're banking on here, and you know, 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.480 you bank on your backup quarterback to come in and 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.000 facilitate for you when you need it, you're not necessarily 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.559 planning to have what we had last year, where Okay, 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.440 you know, Joe Milton's gonna have to start the last 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.000 ten games of the season, right, So if it's a 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.760 if it's a one game two drive scenario that Joe 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:52.120 Milton's needed for, I think that's an excellent spot for him. 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.520 And I think that those kinds of reps, slowly but 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:56.600 surely are going to get him to where he needs 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:56.840 to go. 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.360 And another thing that he's not like that Deck isn't 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.079 able to give you is that he's a dual threat. 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:03.800 He can run when he needs to, and he can 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:04.880 escape when he needs to. 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:06.120 I think what we've. 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:07.880 Talked about Dak in the last couple of years is 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:09.640 that he's not as mobile as he used to be, 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:11.640 and nor do you really want him to be as 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:13.680 mobile as he used to be, just based on the 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:15.920 injuries that he's gotten. But I think with a guy 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.480 like this that is athletic and has that dual threat, 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.160 you can get something out of him that you weren't 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:22.719 able to get out of Tree Lance whenever he was 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:23.840 in the game and he saw that. 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:25.120 Sorry, I don't go to cut you off, but you 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.600 saw that athleticism on display, and just how he's able 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:29.400 to maneuver the pocket when it kind of breaks down 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.760 in that game against Buffalo last year where you know 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:35.000 he's rolling out and the strength of his arm is 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:38.160 such a weapon. It's really unlike a lot of what 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.480 you've seen ever because there's that one play where he 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.840 rolls towards the sideline. I don't know who he threw 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:44.600 it to. The touchdown didn't count. It's a crime that 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.920 it didn't count. It should have stood thanks to the 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:50.760 rule of cool. He just rifles it and it just 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.679 looks effortless. He's on the move, the sideline's coming right 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:55.680 on him, and he just rifles it into a perfect 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.920 spot that's hard to find. That's really hard to find nowadays. 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:00.839 And I think that you know, if you're able to 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.839 capitalize off of that when the opportunities come, because again, 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.080 this is Dak Prescott's job, and it's going to be 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:09.640 that way until he furthered, until he decided to hang 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:13.320 it up or leaves. But that's I think that that 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.040 kind of skill set, in that kind of trade of 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.360 something that you've got a really high floor that you're 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:18.080 building off of. 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:21.400 With Joe Milton, what I'll add to those excellent points 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.280 is the fact that one of the biggest concerns of 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.440 Trey Lance coming into the league, even as a third 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.120 overall pick, was that he didn't have a lot of 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.720 experience coming into the league with North Dakota State as 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.000 far as games played in game start, Yeah, really I 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:37.360 think it right eighteen give or take. But when you're 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.400 talking about Milton between Michigan and Tennessee, he had forty 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.840 three games that he that he took the field for. So, 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.400 although he's a one year guy, which makes him kind 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.720 of like a pseudo rookie for the Cowboys. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.840 Young three years under contract sheep as a lot of 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:53.120 contract quarterback sheep as far as expense goes, and he 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:58.199 entered the league with a ton more actual collegiate experience 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.480 than Trey Lance did. So I say that to say, 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.680 you know, are there some some things he needs to 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:03.920 improve upon. Absolutely. 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.520 We keep talking about how much of a canon his 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:08.199 arm is, and that's absolutely true. 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:09.480 He can't teach that, right. 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.480 He has an Anthony Richardson kind of cannon, but in 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.960 the same breath, and he needs to work on his 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.200 ability to put touch on the ball. So that was 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.080 something that concerned me time and time and gain with 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:20.920 Trey Lance. So Trey Lance doesn't have the cannon that 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.400 Milton had, But Trey Lance also struggled with the touch 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.520 so if Milton can kind of refine that and put 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.440 some touch on that ball, then we're really talking about 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.640 a good QB competition behind behind Risco. 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.280 This turns into like one of those those I can 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:37.480 fix some sort of conversation coaches. Coaches feel like they 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:39.480 can fix a guy and that all these other guys 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:41.360 have just gotten it wrong all the way through, and 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.400 then you kind of figure you put the match it together. 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.640 But the opportunity is there one. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.600 Hundred percent, but there hasn't been a big enough sample 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:49.200 size for him. 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:49.920 Absolutely not. 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.480 So I mean, I don't know if it's about fixing 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.640 him more is refining his the skill set that he 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:54.840 does have. 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.880 It's funny because Tommy brought up the Buffalo game, and 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:00.800 everybody's talking about this Buffalo game because that's what we have. 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:02.120 That's what's all we got. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.920 That's what we've got that in pre season tape, even 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.120 that I think was limited to a certain extent. 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:08.800 And less than four hundred steps of Tennessee and then. 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.160 His Tennessee tape, which is Tennessee tape. I even wrote it. 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.400 I'm reading my article from him last year. But a 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:16.920 lot to be intrigued about when studying Joe Milton had 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.120 success at Tennessee Want some big games during his time 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.600 with the Volunteers. Additionally, he boast a fantastic athletic profile 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.960 that resembles a tank more than a quarterback because he 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.200 can run the ball and he's got an absolute cannon 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.200 at straped to him, you know, like he's got that too. 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:36.680 How teaching guidance will be needed fundamentally at the professional level. 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.320 That's what I've got here. So I think there's ways 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.880 that you've got to You've got to have the right 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.040 teaching and the right leadership to put him in those spots. 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.040 But this isn't gonna We're not saying the Cowboys are 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.360 winning the Super Bowl. Where go ahead and book your 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.840 your your your tickets to Santa Clara in February of 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.480 next year. Like, that's not what we're saying. What we 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.200 are saying is that this is a solid move to 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.240 pick up a backup quarterback and it helps your depth 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.440 of your football team, and it could help the future 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.040 of your football team too if it works out. 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:07.520 Now, just just a little tiny overreaction, all right, guys, 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:09.200 tiny what is winning? 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:13.920 What is his QB comparison at his best? 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:19.120 Like current I had Kyle Trask. I like it as 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.520 as the guy last year I had Kyle Trask. I 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.480 don't think Kyle Trask has the same arm talent as 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:28.080 Joe Milton, though, and I think at least from a 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.120 because Kyle Trask is still in the league right, yes, 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.640 he still bounce around somewhere. Is he still in Tampa Bay? 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:34.640 I don't know I that he's still in Tampa. 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:35.720 You signed with Tampa Bay? 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.920 He may have. But I think as a solid backup 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:41.840 quarterback with some upside to be a starter at some 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.320 point in time doesn't mean it's this year or next year. 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.240 I think I would probably. I don't know if I 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:50.840 hate that comparison, but I don't know if I'm fully 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:52.800 on board with Kyle Trask the way that may have 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:53.840 been as a college guy. 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:54.960 Pat, do you have comparison? 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:56.160 Hmm? 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:04.359 I honestly, and this isn't going to sound lovely, given the. 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:06.800