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Speaker 2: That's true because it's got a Tommy from the Internet feature.

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Speaker 2: All right, Uh, we got to get into some backup

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Speaker 2: quarterback talk because we haven't talked about it. Of course,

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Speaker 2: it happens all the time. I don't know why we

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Speaker 4: We just gotta shift an hour base, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then we'll be fine. But Joe Milton is now

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Speaker 2: a Dallas Cowboy. That's the biggest news and note of

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Speaker 2: the week because Cowboys trade a fifth round pick, they

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Speaker 2: get a seventh and Joe Milton in return, and instead

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Speaker 2: of using a draft pick on a possible backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Is what they were going to do, if they were

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Speaker 1: going to do it. We think it shocked about it.

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Speaker 4: Go and get guy, get a guy, go and get

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I much approve of this over what they

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Speaker 6: did to acquire Trey Lance and sending away that fourth

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Speaker 2: But we don't have to talk about that.

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Speaker 1: It kind kind of do you kind of do because

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Speaker 3: You got a difference a fourth round and a fifth

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Speaker 6: But also you know what I mean, you also got

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Speaker 6: so it was it was much less of an expensive pick.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't expensive at all really so and then when

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Speaker 6: you look at Joe Milton, I'm not going there with you.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the comments, okay when you it's got it.

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Speaker 2: We got a great opportunity for comment of the early

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Speaker 2: nice job, Chris, great jobs. I'm gonna say it, no

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Speaker 6: So we got a cowboys got themselves, a twenty five

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Speaker 6: OTA's get the mini camp, get a training camp, and

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Speaker 6: never really a competition in their eyes, not the way

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Speaker 2: You're talking about the twenty three preseason, right.

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Speaker 6: I want to say, yeah, before, well, well, when Will

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Speaker 2: He was winning it in training camp. Then he got

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Speaker 2: He played in the preseason in all three games, right.

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Speaker 6: Games into the season, but by then Cooper Rush had

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Speaker 1: I think that's that was the season that there must.

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Speaker 6: because then Cooper went to Minnesota and solidified the backup

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Speaker 2: Much twenty three. It was. They gave him a great shot, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, this I believe this was twenty two when

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Speaker 6: we all had a collective saying, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 1: Competition behind Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 6: I know you trade it, but this is not you know,

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Speaker 6: excessive draft capital, which you know guarantees anything for Joe Milton.

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Speaker 6: I really think it's gonna be Greer versus Milton and

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Speaker 6: I had a couple of conversations kind of off the cuff,

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Speaker 6: off the record with Will Greer. He's looking forward to

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Speaker 6: the competition, like he's really looking to sharpen his teeth here.

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Speaker 6: So it's going to be fun and I'm ready for it.

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Speaker 3: That's an excellent take, Patrick, But I don't think there's

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Speaker 3: enough overreaction in their statement there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so can you over react I'm telling you right

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Speaker 2: by week five?

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Speaker 4: No, not at all, Not at all.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a healthy competition going into training camp. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: you need the bodies there. I think having these two

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Speaker 3: be behind Dak to compete is a good thing and

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Speaker 3: only a good thing for the Dallas Cowboys. I would

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Speaker 3: like to see a full preseason for both quarterback or

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Speaker 3: a full preseason game for both quarterbacks. I would love

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Speaker 3: But let's see how it plays out. I'm excited to

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think it's Chris, you really I know exactly what

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Speaker 5: you're talking about. So we're going to quickly transition away

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Speaker 5: from that good job, Chris. You know, when you look

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Speaker 5: gives you a better chance or a better prospect than

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Speaker 5: Joe Milton does. I mean, how many quarterbacks are you

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Speaker 5: going to find that are six five two and forty

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Speaker 5: I mean, you're just not going to find that very often.

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Speaker 5: So that's somebody that's worth taking a shot on. From

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Speaker 5: I think it's win win for both sides. Joe Milton's

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Speaker 5: of like what you've seen with Cooper Rush over.

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Speaker 4: The lot like the second years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you shouldn't, but it happens, It happens. I think

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Speaker 5: he's positioned himself very well to be the backup quarterback

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Speaker 5: He would be my pick.

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Speaker 2: Over a Willgreer.

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Speaker 5: And that's not a shot at Will Greer saying he

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Speaker 5: can't compete for the spot. I just think Joe Milton

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Speaker 5: gives you more options.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all about the ceiling and the skill set

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Speaker 2: and how it matches up. We had heard from Brian

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Speaker 2: Schottenheimer years past that it does matter what the skill

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Speaker 2: set looks like, and he wants it to match up

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Speaker 2: correctly with Dak Prescott. I think Joe Milton is a

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Speaker 2: guy that's not a carbon copy of the two. But

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Speaker 2: if you're looking at Will Greer or Dak Prescott, you

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Speaker 2: could say the skill set not talent level, but the

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Speaker 2: skill set it mirrors Dak a little bit more so

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Speaker 2: than what Will Griers would. So it is kind of

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Speaker 2: an interesting tidbit. Plus, I went back and looked at

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Speaker 2: his draft grade last year. I had him as the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys fit in the Draft magazine last year, which is

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Speaker 2: another reason why you should buy the draft magazine. But

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Speaker 2: I had him as the Cowboys fit last year. And

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Speaker 2: from last year to this year, he would be QB

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Speaker 2: eight on my list.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow.

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Speaker 2: So and the guys that I have in front of

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Speaker 3: I think one of the only knocks that you can

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously only had twenty nine.

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Speaker 5: There's more upset and I think there's going to be

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Speaker 5: I'm speaking more about playing game.

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Speaker 5: So if that's what we're banking on here, and you know,

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Speaker 5: And I think that those kinds of reps, slowly but

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Speaker 3: And another thing that he's not like that Deck isn't

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Speaker 5: Sorry, I don't go to cut you off, but you

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Speaker 5: And I think that you know, if you're able to

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Speaker 6: With Joe Milton, what I'll add to those excellent points

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Speaker 1: Young three years under contract sheep as a lot of

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Speaker 6: We keep talking about how much of a canon his

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Speaker 6: He has an Anthony Richardson kind of cannon, but in

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Speaker 2: This turns into like one of those those I can

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Speaker 2: fix some sort of conversation coaches. Coaches feel like they

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Speaker 2: But the opportunity is there one.

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Speaker 4: Hundred percent, but there hasn't been a big enough sample

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, I don't know if it's about fixing

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Speaker 2: It's funny because Tommy brought up the Buffalo game, and

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Speaker 4: That's what's all we got.

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Speaker 2: That's what we've got that in pre season tape, even

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Speaker 4: And less than four hundred steps of Tennessee and then.

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Speaker 2: His Tennessee tape, which is Tennessee tape. I even wrote it.

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Speaker 2: I'm reading my article from him last year. But a

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Speaker 2: at straped to him, you know, like he's got that too.

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Speaker 2: How teaching guidance will be needed fundamentally at the professional level.

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Speaker 2: That's what I've got here. So I think there's ways

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Speaker 2: But this isn't gonna We're not saying the Cowboys are

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Speaker 2: next year. Like, that's not what we're saying. What we

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Speaker 4: Now, just just a little tiny overreaction, all right, guys,

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Speaker 3: What is his QB comparison at his best?

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Speaker 2: Like current I had Kyle Trask. I like it as

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Speaker 2: don't think Kyle Trask has the same arm talent as

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Speaker 1: I don't know I that he's still in Tampa.

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Speaker 4: You signed with Tampa Bay?

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Speaker 2: He may have. But I think as a solid backup

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Speaker 2: I think I would probably. I don't know if I

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Speaker 4: Pat, do you have comparison?

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Speaker 7: Hmm?

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Speaker 1: I honestly, and this isn't going to sound lovely, given the.

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Speaker 2: Nothing you're going to say is going to sound lovely.

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Speaker 2: You're either going to get over what do you mean? Culture?

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Speaker 6: I disagree. My wife disagrees. She says, I have a lovely.

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Speaker 2: Talking about your voice I'm talking about, which means every

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Speaker 6: Yeah really I said it. I said it in my

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Speaker 6: off and run. They're big, they're strong, they're physical, they're

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Speaker 6: But much like Richardson, the touch is not necessarily the

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Speaker 6: you know, the upside has to be I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: So for me, it's Anthony.

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Speaker 5: I got one from this quarterback class. Oh, I think

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Speaker 5: can run too. I'm not saying that he's, you know,

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Speaker 5: gonna break away from everybody on a yard touchdown. Every

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Speaker 5: other play can hit you with that home run ability,

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Speaker 5: but he's still more than mobile. And so I think that,

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Speaker 5: you know, you look at these two guys and they

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Speaker 5: they kind of remind me a lot of each other.

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Speaker 5: Milton's obviously a little bit bigger, but they're both just

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Speaker 5: so stocky in what they're able to. I mean, look

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Speaker 5: at how Milro's built. His legs are tree trunk. He's

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Speaker 5: built like a linebacker you can see in that film there.

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Speaker 5: And like I said, what where Milroe changes the game

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Speaker 5: is with his legs. But I mean, you just look

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Speaker 5: at this clip right here. He's got that can of

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Speaker 5: an arm. Obviously, I think Milton's got a little bit

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Speaker 5: more rifle to his right, but we got to put

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Speaker 5: the right clip up there. They're making me look bad here.

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Speaker 5: But no, but but Milroe, I think since since his

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Speaker 5: days of Tompkin High School is right here, that's exactly

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Speaker 5: what his specialty is, right and I think Milton gives

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Speaker 5: you that too. I think where Milroe is more accurate

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Speaker 5: with that deep ball, whereas Milton can really just toss

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Speaker 5: it up there and make it look effortless when he

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Speaker 5: does that. But a lot of the same kind of

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Speaker 5: traits in their games. And then this is where Milroe

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Speaker 5: changes the game right here, because if he gets space,

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Speaker 5: it's game over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree. I like your your your sentiment there.

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Speaker 2: I think Milroe will be a probably a third round,

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Speaker 2: fourth round guy, so even I mean if he goes

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Speaker 2: before that, either way, the Cowboys aren't going to take him.

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Speaker 5: I think he's going earlier.

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Speaker 2: That's fair.

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Speaker 5: He got a draft invite and accepted it. That's not

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Speaker 5: the end all be all in terms of when he

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Speaker 5: gets picked. But if he's a first round or a

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Speaker 5: second round pick, don't be surprised. I think somebody's going

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Speaker 5: to bank on his traits.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty wild.

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Speaker 2: let's we talked a lot about Joe Milton. Yes we did,

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Speaker 2: But I kind of want to go off of some

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Speaker 2: name is Tommy Yarish. Stay, I know, so I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: Let's start with one of the guys who's been doing

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Speaker 2: kiper Junior had the Cowboys taken a running back in

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Speaker 2: the first round at twelve overall. But his name was

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Speaker 2: not Ashton Gent. His name is Omarion Hampton, running back

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Speaker 2: from North Carolina. Thumbs upper, thumbs down, pat.

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Speaker 6: Thumbs up on the player, thumbs down on the value

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Speaker 6: of that particular pick. No way, I'm taking Hampton at twelve. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I love him for it later, but not at twelve.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think at twelve? At twelve?

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Speaker 4: At twelve, I'm gonna give you that is right time, je.

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Speaker 5: It was it was at twelve.

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Speaker 2: There you go right back down there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thumbs down.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it kind of the same thing as

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Speaker 2: Patrick as thumbs up for the player. I love Mary Hampton.

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Speaker 2: If he ends up being at forty four, I'm all

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Speaker 2: for Boom. I don't think it's going to be a

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Speaker 2: twelve overall pick. Twelve is tough, twelve is fairy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely no way at twelve. And that's nothing against

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Speaker 5: Maria and Hampton think he's a great player. I've got

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Speaker 5: guys above him. I think I'm a wady too lower

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Speaker 5: on him than some other folks.

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Speaker 1: Are.

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Speaker 2: You have running backs above him?

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Speaker 5: I have Caleb Johnson from Iowa above a lot of

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Speaker 5: people do.

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Speaker 2: I still have him as RB four, still a second

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Speaker 2: round pick, but I have Henderson and Hampton above.

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Speaker 5: Him, and I don't think Travion Henderson is that far

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Speaker 5: behind Hampton in my I think I think Henderson is

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Speaker 5: just a straight up home run hitter. And again, this

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Speaker 5: running back class is so good that Hampton being RB

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Speaker 5: four in that stack is not necessarily like, oh, this

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Speaker 5: guy's a mid second round pick and he's not going

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Speaker 5: to translate to much. I think he has an incredibly

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Speaker 5: high ceiling in this league if he goes to the

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Speaker 5: right scheme, and I think Dallas would work out great

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Speaker 5: for him because he can play on three downs and

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Speaker 5: he can give you everything you're looking for in the back.

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Speaker 5: But at twelve, I think there's bigger needs and value

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Speaker 5: better players on the board for Dallas at that spot.

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Speaker 3: I do got to say, as the de facto webmaster

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Speaker 3: of Dallas, cow Hampton has some of the best photos

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Speaker 3: of any player in the draft.

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Speaker 5: North Carolina's uniform niforms so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, best, So that moves his stock up for you.

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Speaker 1: So makes some good at twelve would.

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Speaker 4: Be it would make grid headline. I'll tell you right now,

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Speaker 4: that center piece.

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Speaker 2: First overall pick.

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Speaker 5: And it's Tennessee tight.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever been out to like

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Speaker 2: Chapel Hill and like been out there. Trees and the

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Speaker 2: triangle is what they call it with like Raleigh and

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Speaker 2: Durham and and and I know you've been in that direction,

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Speaker 2: the triangle. Yeah, but they like all of that. Like

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Speaker 2: Chapel Hill is perfectly covered in that like baby blue

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Speaker 2: it is. Oh, it's so clean, it's such a good look.

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Speaker 2: Great basketball arena is all blue. It's just perfect.

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Speaker 1: Then you go to Durham and you see that ugly blue.

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Speaker 2: So you were happy on Saturday that Houston took care

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Speaker 2: of business.

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Speaker 6: Oh, absolutely, And they almost did it for me again

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Speaker 6: last night.

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Speaker 1: Just get this, get the shot.

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Speaker 2: Off man shout out to the Florida Gators. But that

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Speaker 2: was a heartbreaker, Houston. I'll shout out Florida. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to get some college basketball, all right. Bucky Brooks from

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Speaker 2: NFL dot com, friend of the Draft Show and a

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Speaker 2: relatively well known contributor to Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Bucky said,

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Speaker 2: Armandmembu offensive linemen from Missouri offensive tackle more specifically, they're

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Speaker 2: at twelve for the Cowboys. What do you think, Tommy

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Speaker 2: on that one?

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Speaker 5: It's an interesting one because I think you when you

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Speaker 5: look at this offensive line, Brian Schottenheimer wants to put

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Speaker 5: the best five out there. Do you feel like they

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Speaker 5: have a five right now? That's fairly strong. You compete

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Speaker 5: in a division where the line of scrimmage is so important. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's up for the Cowboys to answer. I think they

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Speaker 5: need the skill position players more than they need the

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Speaker 5: trenches early in this draft, so I would go thumbs down.

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Speaker 5: But Membu is a heck of a player. He's a

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Speaker 5: heck of an athlete, and I think if you look

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Speaker 5: at him at guards specifically, it's an intriguing option for

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys. It would be the boring pick. But I

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Speaker 5: don't I think I would rather if you had put

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Speaker 5: Membu or Hampton in front of me, I would put

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Speaker 5: I would take Membo.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna go thumbs down on this one.

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Speaker 3: I feel the collective sigh from the Dallas Cow's Nation.

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Speaker 3: To pick another first round offensive lineman in that spot,

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Speaker 3: in a spot so high when you have a need

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Speaker 3: for skill position, I think would be really tough. I

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Speaker 3: guess my sort of first gut reaction to a pick

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Speaker 3: like that would be like, that's great, you know, it

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Speaker 3: would be nice to have. I mean, it sounds weird.

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Speaker 3: I don't want another ring of honor guy that doesn't

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Speaker 3: get a Super Bowl.

659
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like.

660
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to win a super Bowl. I get it. Oh,

661
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: like you want ring of honor guys that are gonna

662
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: have rings exactly exactly.

663
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're picking the best guy that's going

664
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: to be at his position, that's great. But give me

665
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: a guy that's gonna win me some games. Dude, I

666
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 3: think I need a skill position.

667
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 6: If we were in an episode of Stranger Things and

668
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 6: we were in the upside down and your thumbs up,

669
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 6: but we're in the real world, so it's thumbs down.

670
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 6: Because I'm taking I'm taking a skill position at twelve.

671
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 6: I'm taking skill position because in order for you to

672
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 6: convince me that this would be okay, I first need

673
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 6: to know who went off the board first. Like, let's

674
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 6: assume Gent is off the board. Is Ted also off

675
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 6: the board? Teed McMillan, is he also.

676
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: Off the board?

677
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 6: If both are off the board, why are you still

678
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 6: at twelve? Is my thought process. Bail out, move back

679
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 6: a few picks, try to get that fourth, try to

680
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 6: get some additional capital, and you know, still pick in

681
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 6: the middle of the first round. But yeah, I don't

682
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 6: look at it as and this is not a shot

683
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 6: to Memble. I think that he can be something for real,

684
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 6: but offensive tackle. You just spent a first round room

685
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 6: guy and whatever you think about guy, and just know

686
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 6: that the Cowboys are not gonna bail on him in

687
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 6: year two after giving up a first round pick to

688
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 6: get him. And then on the opposite side, I guess

689
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 6: I'm of the few, the select few, that liked what

690
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 6: they saw on the back end of the last season

691
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 6: with Terrence Steele coming along. Yeah, So being that I

692
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 6: like what I'm seeing with Terrence Steele, kind of getting

693
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 6: back to form, and I know the Cowboys aren't moving

694
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 6: off of Tyler Goutton in year or two of a

695
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 6: first round pick from last year.

696
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: Why are you sitting at twelve? I ten and Gentier going?

697
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 6: And if neither of them are going, why is this

698
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 6: year pick based on Bucky Brooks's Yeah.

699
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: So it's a good question because I think if you're

700
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: taking an offensive lineman in the first round, you're bumping somebody.

701
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: You're either bumping Terrence Steele, you're moving, Cooper Beebe, You're

702
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: moving Tyler Goeyton, You're moving. You're not gonna move Tyler Smith.

703
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: He's probably the one guy that a first round pick

704
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: would not even move. And if I'm looking at Arman

705
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: Membo as a possibility in the first round, I think

706
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: you would have to move Tyler Smith if right, that

707
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: would be the first thing you would probably think about.

708
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm not moving an all pro from the guards box.

709
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. But I think Mimbu would probably

710
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: fit best as a left guard or a left tackle.

711
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: You already have a left tackle and Tyler Geiden that

712
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: would be the one I would move if Mimbu's there.

713
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: I still don't feel super confident about that though, because

714
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: then I would have to swing him to right tackle,

715
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, terrence Steel's a question,

716
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: and then the domino start falling. I'm gonna give a

717
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: thumbs up for the player. I actually am of the

718
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: mindset that he's not even gonna be there at twelve.

719
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: I think somebody early in front of him takes him,

720
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: and so the player is there and the value is there.

721
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: If you're talking legitimate BPA, he would be a conversation

722
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 2: because that's BPA, and then figure out the rest. If

723
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: you're doing that, I'm not I'm not gonna be upset

724
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: about it because you're taking a damn good football player.

725
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say thumbs down just because of the fit.

726
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: It's just kind of a weird scenario. And I'm kind

727
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: of with you guys in the fact that it would

728
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: take a lot for me to move around. I think

729
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: if there was a spot where you could say, oh,

730
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: don't worry, he's we don't have a left tackle, he's

731
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: your left tackle, or oh don't worry, we don't have

732
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: a right guard, he'll fit great at right guard, I

733
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: think i'd feel more more opportune about it. I just

734
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: think there's too many other moves that are gonna have

735
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: to happen and happen to work for you in order

736
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: to make the pick actually work out.

737
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: Question though, is the second round too early for you

738
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: guys for an offensive line period?

739
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: No?

740
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: No, yeah, no, I could take it, but I'm taking

741
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: a right guard in that spot right or a center

742
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: or somebody that I really like there, and then move

743
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: bb out the guard and then you're feeling pretty good there.

744
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to take an offensive lineman

745
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: in the second But let's say like a Kelvin Banks

746
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: from Texas falls or a Will Campbell from LSU somehow falls,

747
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: then you can maybe have that comedy, you.

748
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 5: Have the conversation, But I still think you need skill players.

749
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: I agree, all right. Speaking of skilled players, how about

750
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: Lance zer Lion, also from NFL dot Com. He usually

751
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: has a pretty good beat on what the Cowboys are

752
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: doing when they get closer to the draft. There's a

753
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: little secret if you see his mock draft like week

754
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: of the draft, keep an eye on and kind of bookmarket.

755
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: Matthew Golden, wide receiver from Texas is who he had there. Tommy,

756
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: I know you were down there at Texas Pro Day

757
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: you feel like that's the right fit for the Cowboys.

758
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 5: Fit twelve fit is the question because you can line

759
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 5: Matthew Golden up outsigned. But if you look at him

760
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 5: against a Tet McMillan, right, McMillan's got the size, he's

761
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 5: got the catch radius, he's got the fifty to fifty

762
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 5: ball ability. Whereas Golden, you're going to be saying, Okay,

763
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 5: we're banking on you to win your routes, to outrun

764
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 5: guys and get the fifty to fifty balls at a

765
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 5: much less rate than you would if you're throwing Tet McMillan.

766
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 5: But I think he's a savvy route runner. He gets open,

767
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 5: he can blow past the guy, he can create separation.

768
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 5: You saw what he was able to do at the

769
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 5: combine running wise, he run one of the best forties

770
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 5: I think, if not the best forty for a wide receiver.

771
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 5: Really got the combine, and so back end of the

772
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 5: season he was incredibly productive for Texas and the College

773
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 5: Football Playoff, and so there's a lot like with Matthew Golden.

774
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 5: I think though, if you've got Golden and McMillan both

775
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 5: on the board, because of what McMillan gives you from

776
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 5: a catch radius and fifty to fifty ball standpoint, because

777
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 5: the Cowboys just need that big ex receiver. I feel

778
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 5: like to compliment Seedee Lamb, that's the question. But Matthew

779
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 5: Golden is a heck of a player and I think

780
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 5: that if you paired him with Seedy Lamb a lot

781
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 5: of good things would come from it. The question would

782
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 5: be he can line up in the slot too. He

783
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 5: line up in the slot to a lot of Texas.

784
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 5: So where do you work Seeding Lamb into that? Because

785
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 5: you've got to make sure that he is still the

786
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 5: most prominent part of your offense. And so how does

787
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 5: Matthew Golden compliment that? Is he better on the outside

788
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 5: than in the slot? Do you feel like that's the

789
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 5: question that the Cowboys would have to answer if they

790
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 5: picked Matthew Golden. But he's a heck of a player

791
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 5: and I think it would be a thumbs up pick

792
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 5: for me.

793
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: Is it more likely or less likely that Ted has

794
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: gone before Golden?

795
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 5: I would say it's more likely.

796
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

797
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 5: I think that the media landscape, the media pundits in

798
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 5: the draft are overthinking Ted McMillan a lot, and that's

799
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 5: why he's sliding in these mock drafts.

800
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: Teams aren't.

801
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 5: I don't think teams are. I think he's that good

802
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 5: of a player. And you can talk about the top

803
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 5: end speed, whatever, You're not going to find an athlete

804
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 5: like that at the receiver position anywhere else in this class.

805
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 5: I mean, just what he's able to do in the air,

806
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 5: it's really incredible. And he's just so acrobatic, can make

807
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 5: any catch. You throw him any ball fifty to fifty

808
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 5: and he's just a matchup nightmare.

809
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, So why is he falling?

810
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: Do we know?

811
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. I'm saying that just over he's

812
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 5: falling in the in the draft world like of mock.

813
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 4: Draft pundits are right dialogue.

814
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,959
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's if he's sliding that much

815
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 5: from an NFL team standpoint, if he slides past I

816
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 5: don't think so.

817
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: If he slides past twelve, we ran through the simulation

818
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 2: on the Draft Show and did our own little mock

819
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: draft there. But if he slides past twelve in the Cowboys,

820
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: thirteenth through nineteen is going to be interesting because those

821
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: teams don't necessarily need wide receiver help right away. They

822
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 2: don't need first round wide receiver help, and they've got

823
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: a lot of other needs that they could possibly hit there.

824
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: So if the Cowboys wanted to trade back, and we

825
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: actually did in that scenario traded back to eighteen with

826
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks, if you can find a dance partner

827
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,479
Speaker 2: to kind of trade in that area, you may still

828
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: get Tech and feel pretty good about it. But he's

829
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: got to get there to twelve first, like you got

830
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: to see what's available there at twelve. And I think

831
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: the Cowboys are so wide receiver hungry, I don't think

832
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: they would play around with it. I think they would

833
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: get a guy like Matthew Golden or Tech McMillan if

834
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: he's there.

835
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 5: And the other question too, you mentioned sliding. If he

836
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 5: does slide, I think it's a question of, Okay, what

837
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 5: are the teams in front of Dallas need? What are

838
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 5: their positions of need? Right Like when you look at

839
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 5: this sport, if we're looking for places where Tech McMillan

840
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 5: could fall early on, I think if you look at

841
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 5: New England and Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter are off

842
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 5: the table, Okay, do you want to give Drake May

843
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 5: his best receiving weapon yet or do you try to

844
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 5: find your left tackle of the future there and a

845
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 5: guy like Will Campbell. So that's the question with the Patriots,

846
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 5: and you slide further down. Does do the Panthers want

847
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 5: to give Bryce Young a solid wide receiver one option

848
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 5: or do they want to go on the defensive side

849
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 5: of the ball and bolster their pass rush. You could

850
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 5: argue that New Orleans could be looking for a guy

851
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 5: to complement Chris o'lave in that room. So there are

852
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 5: questions as to whether or not a team in front

853
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 5: of Dallas is going to look for that. I mean,

854
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 5: even you can make the argument for San Francisco, given

855
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 5: how how much it looks like they're going to pay

856
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 5: Brock Purdy and they're kind of just selling everybody right now,

857
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 5: is that a team that looks at him. So it's

858
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 5: just an interesting argument of Okay, do you really need

859
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 5: wide receiver early on? And do you bank on a

860
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 5: guy like McMillan's talent or is he going to slide?

861
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 5: Because frankly, teams just aren't really in need of a

862
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 5: wide receiver even though this class is so loaded at

863
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 5: the position.

864
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: So you would you give it thumbs up or thumbs down?

865
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 5: McMillan, no Golden thumbs up.

866
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: Thumbs up for Golden quickly before we go to our

867
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 2: second break.

868
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: Thumbs up for the player, thumbs down taking them at twelve.

869
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 4: Okay, thumbs down, trade down a little bit.

870
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: You know, Golden is a trade back and get guy

871
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: for me.

872
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go thumbs up. I think he's that

873
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: good of a player.

874
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: I didn't.

875
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: He'll be sorry.

876
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna cut you up. I don't think if you

877
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 5: trade back he's there.

878
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: Depends on how far you're dancing.

879
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: For dancing, you would have to dance fairly far.

880
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 5: And this is definitely a guy that I could see

881
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 5: somebody trading up to get. If somebody sees him that

882
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 5: that highly is.

883
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: Tit going, he could be.

884
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 5: He very well could.

885
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: If tit is going, then it changes because then you're

886
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: getting instead of.

887
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 6: White, and I'm at least willing to have the converse.

888
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 6: I'm not going to say it changes, but let's talk

889
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 6: about it.

890
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: I think point if.

891
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 5: Ted and genty are gone at twelve, you trade back.

892
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 2: I think, right, That's what I'm saying, right, I think

893
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 2: we're all in agreement.

894
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 5: And McMillan and Golden at twelve, you pick McMillan.

895
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I have a freaking almost shout out.

896
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: Shout out to Andrew. He actually pointed out I completely

897
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 2: had a flub. I don't know why I said Membo

898
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: was a left tackle.

899
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: He's right.

900
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: He's a right side play which in the magazine like

901
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: it's it's in front of like I have it right here.

902
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: He played right guard and right tackle. I don't know

903
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: why hasn't had their That's on me. Yeah, sorry, I

904
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 2: didn't get my black rifle coffee to kick in in time,

905
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: so that's on me.

906
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: What happened. Yes, we don't get oats in the morning anymore.

907
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I'm gonna change my answer on Membou

908
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: because now that I'm of right sound in mind, I'm

909
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: gonna say thumbs up, because he's gonna be a hell

910
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: of a player, and he might be your right guard

911
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: of the future. And then you don't have to move

912
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 2: anybody around. You can have Cooper b b at center,

913
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: you can have Terrence Steel at right tackle. You're gonna

914
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: throw the ball to God, You're gonna You're gonna be

915
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: just fine. They're gonna be figured. We're gonna figure it

916
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 2: out in the second, figure it out in the second round,

917
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: memboo falls give me a thumbs up. Well, change my answer.

918
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: Thank you Andrew for pointing that out, because I don't

919
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 2: know why I'm an idiot. All right, let's take our

920
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: second break. When we come back, I've got two more

921
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: names that were on these mock drafts that I want

922
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Speaker 2: to get two thumbs up or thumbs down more of this.

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Speaker 2: Two more names to get to here on this mock

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys dot com. I know it's a Tuesday, but

976
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Speaker 2: we're still talking mock drafts.

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Speaker 4: Actual black riffle coffee today.

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Speaker 1: Is it? Yep?

979
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00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: It is.

981
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Speaker 3: What's murdered out is the flavor. And it is as

982
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Speaker 3: dark as night, very dark, no wonder you're having a

983
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: great Yeah, what's darker than night?

984
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: The dark knight? All right? Matt Miller ESPN says Tyler

985
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 2: Warren tight end from Penn State, will be the Cowboys

986
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: pick at twelve. This is probably the most wild card

987
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: name that I've seen out of the the The article

988
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 2: Patrick seems to agree, were taken as he set off

989
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 2: Penn steak tight end, best tight end in the draft.

990
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: A lot of people are are really high on him

991
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: in the media circles. Not sure what teams think. I

992
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: think the teams like him. Could be an impact tight end,

993
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: could be brock Bowers, could be him. What say you?

994
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: Tight end? Arguably stand though, but no not. I'm a

995
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 2: Fergie stand I don't. I don't mind.

996
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: You're a fan of potential, and I think you have.

997
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: I think he'll have a bounce back here.

998
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 6: He'll be fine, especially as long as Dak remains on

999
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 6: the field, because I think that that's the key for

1000
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 6: Ferguson as well as for remaining I.

1001
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: Think Joe Milton throwing ninety five miles per hour down.

1002
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 6: But arguably the position that lead that needs the least

1003
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 6: amount of assistance in the draft. Right now, you're going

1004
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 6: to spend the twelfth overall pick on it. I could

1005
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 6: not hate that more and that's my So. Is that

1006
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 6: a double thumbs that's double thumbs down?

1007
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there, No, thank you. I love Tyler

1008
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: Warren as a prospect not here.

1009
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too.

1010
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 5: I think that he's he gives you a lot of

1011
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 5: versatility in the way you can use him just because

1012
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 5: he's a receiver in a tight end's body. I think

1013
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 5: is the way that I would put it, and that

1014
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 5: was kind of on display in his last year at

1015
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 5: Penn State. I think Penn statement a great highre with

1016
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 5: Andy Coldle Nicky as their offensive coordinator because he likes

1017
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 5: to put a bunch of fun wrinkles in his offense

1018
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 5: and have guys do a lot of different things. You

1019
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 5: remember his time at Kansas, That's when Jaylen Daniels was

1020
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 5: playing in his best I'm nerding out on college football

1021
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 5: too much. I'm sorry, but Tyler Warren they kind of

1022
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 5: just use as a Swiss Army knife. He lined up

1023
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 5: at quarterback, they played him at running back, they played

1024
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 5: him at wide receiver, they played him at ten end.

1025
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 5: They might as well play them at offensive tackle. This

1026
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 5: isn't a guy who's going to be the best inline blocker,

1027
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 5: but what he gives you from a receiving standpoint, I

1028
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 5: understand why people will say, oh, this could be brock Bowers.

1029
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 5: Brock Bowers is a unicorn. There's there's there's there's no

1030
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 5: one else like that. I look from the from the

1031
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 5: tight end.

1032
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to stir up kind I understand. I

1033
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: don't think he's going to be brock Bowers. Actually, I

1034
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: think he's a great value version of such. I think

1035
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: he's a good player, and he has a similar skill set,

1036
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: but he's not the same. And if you're going to

1037
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: take a first round tight end at twelve overall when

1038
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 2: you really don't need one, if we were sitting here

1039
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: and looking at our tight end position and saying, man,

1040
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: we don't have anybody here, which I think some Cowboys

1041
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: fans out there would probably say that, I don't. I

1042
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: think we saw some improvement from Schoonmaker. I think we

1043
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: saw a bad year from Jake Ferguson. Say it as

1044
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: it is, but you can't just replace him off of

1045
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: one year. You can't just replace a guy off of

1046
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: one year after he just went to the Pro Bowl

1047
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 2: two years ago.

1048
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 5: So I had been in quarterback. Are the two spots

1049
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 5: of twelve that i'd before, if they may hate it,

1050
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 5: So that's that's what thumbs down for me.

1051
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 4: Hey, Matt Miller more like mac Miller because I have

1052
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 4: hurt feelings.

1053
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: Over this page.

1054
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, our.

1055
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: Thumbs down terrible idea away with you get guards, guards

1056
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: removing from my presence.

1057
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

1058
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: The only other name that was on this list compiled

1059
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: by Tommy Yarish on Dallas Cowboys dot com, it was

1060
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: a number of tech McMillan possibilities. I think we're all

1061
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: in pretty much agreeance that that's a that's a thumb

1062
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: two thumbs up.

1063
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's two thumb.

1064
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: Feel pretty good about the fit.

1065
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 6: I like the polarity on that you go from one

1066
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 6: that's obviously two thumbs down to a Tech McMillan, which

1067
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 6: is obviously a two thumbs up.

1068
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: It's almost like I had put it together there, almost

1069
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: like it's almost like I might not be structured at

1070
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: first rodeo. Yeah, it's like I'm hosting the show.

1071
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: You've been here much longer than memes.

1072
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: Watching the show. That's true. But yeah, no, I think

1073
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: we're all in agreeance that TET would be a favorite pick.

1074
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: Is there anybody book?

1075
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 3: Just write it down, it's over, I'm gonna update the website.

1076
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, puff overall.

1077
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 2: Pick what number you're giving?

1078
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know.

1079
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what's open? Uh?

1080
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: The ten?

1081
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: I'm giving them ten, ten, ten?

1082
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: Two? Sorry one giving them two?

1083
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: Did one?

1084
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: Ye?

1085
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: Take two from Jalen?

1086
00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: Oh?

1087
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: I didn't even see that.

1088
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wild.

1089
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, he is willing to give it to a

1090
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 6: rookie though he I don't know if he's a business

1091
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 6: portion of the signing bone, you can't give him.

1092
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: Four can't can't take four away?

1093
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 4: Is a business decision?

1094
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would?

1095
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 6: I think he like so he did that absolutely so

1096
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 6: that you would have to come to him with a bag.

1097
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: Come on, Yeah, that's veteran move.

1098
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: That's positioning.

1099
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 4: Nice signing bonus. What size of those?

1100
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: What size of those? You get your size? Not your size,

1101
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: my size?

1102
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? But yeah, anybody else ted McMillan, got it. Anybody

1103
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: else that you feel comfortable there at twelve.

1104
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 4: I've told you before I like Walter Nolan man. I

1105
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 4: really do that high on him. I really am that

1106
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 4: high on him.

1107
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 2: I appreciate you standing on the table.

1108
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 3: I haven't seen a ton of difficent tackle footage aside

1109
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 3: from Walter Nolan. But for obviously, what's his name, number one, Michigan.

1110
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: He's not going to be there, Mason Graham, Mason Graham,

1111
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: he won't be there, probably not, So give me Walter Nolan.

1112
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: I like him, and I like the interview that you

1113
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: guys did with him. He sounds like Micah in a way.

1114
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, put him next to each other, so

1115
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 3: it goes.

1116
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: You're standing on like one of those like school desks

1117
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: that are like kind of wobbly, but you're standing on

1118
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: the table. It's like Dead Poets Society. Yeah, I got

1119
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: you up there, like, oh, captain, my captain, and you're

1120
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: looking right at Walter Nolan, trying to trying to will

1121
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: this thing.

1122
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 4: And let's go, buddy. But you like the old mist defense.

1123
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 4: I like what he did.

1124
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, they were nasty. Let's go. That

1125
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 2: defensive film is nuts.

1126
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 5: It's crazy.

1127
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 6: Honestly, I am on a different table. My table is

1128
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 6: if Ted McMillan and Ashton Gentil going find a dance

1129
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 6: partner to bail.

1130
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where easier said than done.

1131
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: And say it was easy and say it was easy.

1132
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,479
Speaker 2: I just said, you're probably gonna take it under pay.

1133
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: You're going to give somebody a discount on twelve. That's

1134
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 2: the just you got to come to fruition.

1135
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: Depends on what the discount is.

1136
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: It's gonna be probably a heavy discount because there's no

1137
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: quarterbacks to come.

1138
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 6: Shameless plug for previous week's episode, so check out last

1139
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 6: week's episode if you want to know some scenarios put out.

1140
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: There was a very fun game.

1141
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 6: There was one particular thing I'm not going to tell

1142
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 6: you because I want you to go priss play that

1143
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 6: was such an underpay that it was it was mildly gross.

1144
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: Ye, so underpays.

1145
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 6: I mean there are levels to underpay and discount. So

1146
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 6: if it's a mild discount, you know, fine, as long

1147
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 6: as it's not a full you know, discount, double check,

1148
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 6: then you know you can get it done.

1149
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think if I'm with you in that Teed

1150
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 5: Gentier gone try and move back, and Walter Nolan as

1151
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 5: a prime candidate. I think if you move back as

1152
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 5: a guy who could be on the back table, I'm

1153
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 5: a big I'm a big Walter Nolan guy too. Look

1154
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 5: anything on the board for okay, anything, I feel like

1155
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 5: it's on the board in the first round except for

1156
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 5: tight ending quarterbacks. Right. I think that you look at

1157
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 5: this team and they've got just so many needs across

1158
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 5: the board that you could make an argument for just

1159
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 5: about anybody. But in terms of what it would what

1160
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 5: you would get for trading back, if you can stack

1161
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 5: some top one hundred picks, I think you're in a

1162
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 5: good spot. So even if it's at a discounted point

1163
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 5: and you swap first and maybe get a second and

1164
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 5: a third with it, maybe that's too high, or like

1165
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 5: a third or fourth he gets your fourth round pick back,

1166
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 5: I think you consider it if that's the best offer

1167
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 5: you've got, just because you need to stack as much

1168
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 5: top end talent as you can for this froster, right

1169
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 5: like you need to. This is a draft and developed team.

1170
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 5: They've set it over and over again. If you're gonna

1171
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 5: do that, you need to draft the best players that

1172
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 5: are up there and then you let Will McLay do

1173
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 5: what he's done in the past and make his money

1174
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 5: late in the rounds in Day three. So as far

1175
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 5: as other guys at twelve, you could talk me into

1176
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 5: jod A barn from Texas, the cornerback who can kind

1177
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 5: of play anywhere in the secondary. I think you could

1178
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 5: talk me into Luther Burden, the wide receiver from Missouri.

1179
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 5: You could talk me into Will Johnson, the corner from Michigan.

1180
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 5: So there's a lot of a lot of different pieces.

1181
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 5: And I think the wild card in the round one

1182
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 5: of this draft because just because I've been seeing buzz

1183
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 5: around him lately in terms of where they can play him,

1184
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 5: not Dallas specifically, just across the NFL is Johad Campbell

1185
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 5: from Alabama. Where does he fall? Is he a guy

1186
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 5: that a team is super sky high on and they're

1187
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 5: gonna take him the premium pick. I bet you he

1188
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 5: goes in the top twenty one hundred percent see it

1189
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 5: because I think he gives you that added element of

1190
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 5: the pass rushing ability. I think Johodd Campbell is what

1191
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 5: Jalen Walker, what people thought Jalen Walker would be at

1192
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 5: a linebacker spot because Johad Campbell can rush the pastor,

1193
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 5: but Walker is a better pass rusher. Yeah, so that's

1194
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 5: where it differs. And I'm not saying anything bad about

1195
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 5: Jalen Walkers. I like Jalen Walker a lot. I'm just

1196
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 5: saying people see him and say, Okay, well he's a linebacker.

1197
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 5: But I think Campbell covers more ground as a coverage

1198
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 5: linebacker and he can still blitz off the edge on

1199
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 5: third down, whereas Walker I think specializes at rushing the

1200
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 5: pastor and just needs to be more refined.

1201
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: I do agree.

1202
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 4: Do we assume Michael Williams will be gone at twelve?

1203
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 2: No?

1204
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 5: No, no, I think there's and he's another one.

1205
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 6: I do not foresee him being going on twelve. I

1206
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 6: think that'll be a conversation. But going back to last

1207
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 6: week's episode, go and watch that. It was based on

1208
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 6: the scenario that Kyle position. That is why I said

1209
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 6: Mikel Williams at number twelve. But in the actual real

1210
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 6: world where I'm not boxed in by Kyle scenario. Sorry,

1211
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 6: I'm not taking Mikel Williams. I love him to dip,

1212
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 6: but I'm not taking him at number twelve.

1213
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm a too rich and even he's one of my

1214
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: dog's best way too.

1215
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: Rich. I'm I'm of the thought process that if you

1216
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 2: can get the right type of compensation, trading back is

1217
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: a great option. I'm all for it, but I just

1218
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: I'm also telling everybody that just be prepared to not

1219
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: have a trade partner and to not have the correct

1220
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 2: compensation and overfa some problems either Yeah, all right, we

1221
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 2: gotta go here on the Draft Show or gosh darn

1222
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 2: it Draft Show coming up next, We've got Talking Cowboys

1223
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 2: next Tuesday. Be sure to get your Draft magazine and

1224
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: continue on as well, a couple weeks away from the

1225
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 2: NFL Draft. Glad you had some time with us this

1226
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: morning on Talking Cowboys for Patrick no C Walker, Jush Rodriguez,

1227
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: Tommy Yaris Chasmen Marshall in the back of Kyle Yoman

1228
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