WEBVTT - Spring Bear Hunting Gear List

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<v Speaker 1>Outrageously Dependable. My name is Clay Nucleman. I'm the host

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I'll also be your

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<v Speaker 1>host into the world of hunting the icon of North

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<v Speaker 1>American wilderness better. We'll talk about tactics, gear, conservation who

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<v Speaker 1>will also bring you into some of the wildest country

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<v Speaker 1>on the planet. Chasing battery. Welcome to the Bear Hunting

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<v Speaker 1>Magazine Podcast. We're at the Global headquarters today and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be talking about our here list for going on

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<v Speaker 1>a spring do it yourself hunt in Montana. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast is gonna be a pretty technical in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the gear that we use. What we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>we're just going through a list and basically we're going

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<v Speaker 1>through my personal packing list for going out west and

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<v Speaker 1>uh so that's what we're gonna be doing. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>with me in the office Colby moorehead I introduced Colby

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of podcasts ago, but Colby works for Bear

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<v Speaker 1>Hunting Magazine now full time. So Colby is uh, Colby

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<v Speaker 1>is doing all kinds of stuff for us. Um he's

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Grab named him the Bear Hunting magazine bear tech.

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<v Speaker 1>I call him my tech nerd W. How would you

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<v Speaker 1>describe your how how would you describe your job here? Colby?

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<v Speaker 1>You've been here for two months almost two months? Two months? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>See you need feeling need you need feeling need yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that you could put it in a title.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe bear tech is the best thing. Yeah, like bear tech,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean pretty much. The goal of Bear Hunting Magazine

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<v Speaker 1>is to promote conservation and bear hunting and best practices

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<v Speaker 1>inside of bear hunting. So that's pretty much what you

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<v Speaker 1>you support, all under laying foundational things inside of doing that. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's interesting though, is just today Colby Moorehead learned

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<v Speaker 1>that he's going to Montana with me. Oh man, my

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<v Speaker 1>legs aren't even Arkansas already yet, no doubt, no doubt. Man. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I threw a ranch at Kobe this morning. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have to give a little bit of background before we

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<v Speaker 1>start into the skier list. I've been to Montana on

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<v Speaker 1>a do it yourself hunt two different times. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>twenty and I went to Montana. The first Montana hunt

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<v Speaker 1>that I did was I took my wife with me

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<v Speaker 1>and we did a backpack hunt. We back we packed

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<v Speaker 1>back in, and so we were only using gear that

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<v Speaker 1>we could carry on our packs. My pack was about

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five to sixty pounds, her pack was about forty pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>And we hiked back in about five miles and stayed

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<v Speaker 1>for five days. Okay, never came out. That was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>That was our first big step into Western back country hunting.

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<v Speaker 1>The second hunt that I did was in twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, and I went with gym sessions of Best

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<v Speaker 1>of the West rifles and husk and my optics, and

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<v Speaker 1>we used his mules and horses to pack in, and

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<v Speaker 1>so each of us had uh an animal that we rode,

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<v Speaker 1>and each of us had an animal that carried all

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<v Speaker 1>our gear, and so we got to carry a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more gear. Typically an equine animal that you're packing can

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<v Speaker 1>carry between I mean as much as two hundred pounds

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<v Speaker 1>of gear. Usually more like a hundred and fifty pounds

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<v Speaker 1>of gear and so all of a sudden, your limitations

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<v Speaker 1>for what you could bring become a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>luxurious when you've got equoin animals. So I want I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting around to why you're going with me, Kobe the

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<v Speaker 1>So I've been planning this hunt in my mind for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, and I needed I wanted somebody to film.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I want to make a film for the

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel. I also want somebody that's able to take photography,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, take photos and do stuff for the magazine obviously, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, the main thing is that I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly when I was gonna go. I mean, I just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of refused to just like pick an arbitrary date

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<v Speaker 1>on the calendar and just go, I'm gonna go this week.

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<v Speaker 1>And most normal people that have normal jobs that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go hunting with you have to have some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty significant prep time and I just couldn't do that

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<v Speaker 1>because it was weather dependent and there was a many

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<v Speaker 1>other variables on the business side of it that I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know when I was gonna leave, right, And so

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<v Speaker 1>Colby Morehead works for me now, So, uh, Colby was

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Flexible inside of this deal, and uh, and Colby

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<v Speaker 1>and I have hunted together before, but this will be

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<v Speaker 1>the first big do it yourself Western deal. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's a primary reason Colby may end up with

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<v Speaker 1>a bear tag. I mean, we're gonna get up there

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<v Speaker 1>and assess the situation. When Missy and I went up

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<v Speaker 1>there in both of us bought tags, you know, three

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<v Speaker 1>or fifty dollar tags, and we in need of one

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<v Speaker 1>of us ever had a shot out of bear. So

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<v Speaker 1>Colby is going with me. I'm gonna have a tag. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>if we get into some bears and feel like success

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<v Speaker 1>is probable, you know, we may go back into town

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<v Speaker 1>get him a tag. We realize he's gotta wait twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hours before he can hunt, but we'll see what

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<v Speaker 1>to see. Um, the the way that I'm hunting is

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to talk about this I've and I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned this on my podcast the other day, is that

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<v Speaker 1>I've got two buddies up in Montana that have kind

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<v Speaker 1>of helped me find some areas and have kind of

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<v Speaker 1>given me a leg up a little bit on finding locations.

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<v Speaker 1>Well not a little bit, I mean they pretty much said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the region you go in, and uh, there

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<v Speaker 1>their locals and they're having success on bear. They are

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<v Speaker 1>killing bears pretty regularly themselves or people that are up

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<v Speaker 1>there around them, um by walking roads and just glass

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<v Speaker 1>and clear cuts and being mobile. Okay, so they're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing this back country deal where they're going way back in.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're pretty much driving around in the evenings

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<v Speaker 1>and glass and cuts and going you know, hopping around

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of different locations trying to find a bear.

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<v Speaker 1>The last time that I went, I kind of fell

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<v Speaker 1>in love with the style of hunting that we did,

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<v Speaker 1>which was an equine based back country hunt, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is what I want to do. That is that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way that I want to kill a bear in Montana.

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<v Speaker 1>So last year we went up there and we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>kill a bear. We hunted for six days and and

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<v Speaker 1>never had opportunity at a bear for the second time

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<v Speaker 1>in a row. And so my buddies are like, Clui,

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing this wrong. If you stayed in a hotel

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<v Speaker 1>and drove around in your truck, you could probably kill

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<v Speaker 1>a bear a lot easier. And uh, I'm not putting

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm not above that in any way. But I've

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<v Speaker 1>also I just the older I get, the more I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do things in a certain way and to me,

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<v Speaker 1>a back country do it yourself hunt using these these

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<v Speaker 1>mules that I've got, these animals, to me would be

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<v Speaker 1>really significant. And uh so I've kind of made vision

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way I want to do it. And and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know because to me, the West is so iconic

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<v Speaker 1>of using equine animals for hunting. And uh actually, when

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<v Speaker 1>I first got Izzy, the mule that I've currently got

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<v Speaker 1>that I'll be writing. You know, I trained her from

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<v Speaker 1>scratch in the whole idea. You know, when I got her,

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<v Speaker 1>I envisioned taking her to Montana. And obviously I used

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<v Speaker 1>her mostly here in Arkansas, but I envisioned taking her

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<v Speaker 1>to Montana. And uh and that vision has not died.

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<v Speaker 1>Some things evaporate, some dreams evaporate, and some do not.

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<v Speaker 1>That dream has not evaporated. And uh so we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to Montana and we're we're borrowing a mule from my buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Autrey. Now you've have you ever met Trey? He

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<v Speaker 1>was on the podcast, but you weren't here when he

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<v Speaker 1>was here. He's a squirrel hunter, so smoky. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you watched our our killer squirrel hunting video

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<v Speaker 1>called hundred Dollar Squirrel, Trey Autrey is, uh, he rides

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<v Speaker 1>a mule named Smokey Colby. You will be riding Smokey. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>trial by fire. I get on the mule the first

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<v Speaker 1>time we're going up a mountain. Man, you're perfect, You're

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<v Speaker 1>you're you don't have a family. Yeah, right, okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>know so it's kind of like, you know, indispensable. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess is that the right word. Is that the word

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for? I don't know about that. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like it doesn't matter if he comes home or not. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Now. The reason we

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<v Speaker 1>we put you on Smokey and I've been I've been

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<v Speaker 1>negotiating with Trey all morning, not negotiating. He was like, hey, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can take him, but we gotta get him shot

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<v Speaker 1>before next week. There's a few things, but Smokey is

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<v Speaker 1>super safe. It's like fifteen years old, pretty short. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Colby is not the tallest guy in the room, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not very tall either, So if that tells you anything,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to duck a whole lot. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>Smokey is like probably hands thirteen and a half hands,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's kind of a dead head. And so we

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<v Speaker 1>don't need speed out there, we just need we need

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<v Speaker 1>surefootedness and just forward movement. Yeah, sou and Smoking Easy

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<v Speaker 1>have have traveled quite a bit together, so they'll do good.

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<v Speaker 1>So um well, and and the the other reason that

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<v Speaker 1>you had to be pulled into this so quickly was

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<v Speaker 1>my buddy Brent was gonna go with me, okay, And

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<v Speaker 1>just in the last forty eight hours there's been another

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<v Speaker 1>bear hunt planned this spring that Brent is gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>with me on. Okay. So it's like, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>this Montana trip had a hole in it. I needed somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, Kobe, let's go. Yeah, because this was

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<v Speaker 1>the flexible trip to Yeah, yeah, this was a flexible trip.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's gonna be super fun. We got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of work to do between now and when we leave.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh but this podcast is gonna actually help us

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<v Speaker 1>as we think about planning. Um it seems natural. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start off by saying that I am

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<v Speaker 1>not a gear head. Kolbe kind of is. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I ventured into it. Yeah, I mean you're you're pretty technically,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like you enjoy like searching out the gear

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<v Speaker 1>and looking at different products and really yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of podcasts, yeah, a lot of YouTube and see,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the exact opposite of that, Like, uh, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>minimalist at heart. But at the same time, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've been pretty effective with the gear that I use

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<v Speaker 1>on these back not just back country like these two

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<v Speaker 1>do it yourself deals, but I mean I've I'm hunting

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, traveling and hunted a lot in the last

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<v Speaker 1>five years and back country hunted here in Arkansas. And

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be limited by your gear. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's that's the thing, and that's what I live by,

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<v Speaker 1>is I as I never want my gear to be

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<v Speaker 1>a reason for not being successful. So even though I

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<v Speaker 1>don't enjoy the technical side of gear stuff, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I I can navigate my way through it, and typically

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<v Speaker 1>what I do is just by the absolute best stuff possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's just a good, good way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do believe it's a lot simpler than people

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<v Speaker 1>make it sometimes. I think sometimes people enjoy it, like you,

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<v Speaker 1>Kolbe enjoy gear stuff, and so you talk a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and to somebody who doesn't enjoy gear stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>then it becomes like stressful. It's like, well, I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea that there were so many options for freeze

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<v Speaker 1>dried meals. I'm happy with what I've got, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So so I think sometimes it can be confusing for

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who doesn't like gear to listen to a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>where they just dissect like two different types of gear

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<v Speaker 1>for three hours. It's just like, hey, man, tell me

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<v Speaker 1>which is the best one, and I'll get through it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so there's kind of a rugged mentality of being

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<v Speaker 1>a minimalist that I inc is good. But also there's

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<v Speaker 1>something really good to be said for somebody that's really

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<v Speaker 1>good at planning and strategizing and getting the best gear,

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<v Speaker 1>and so, uh, you know, I don't think either one

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<v Speaker 1>of those positions is superior to the other, you know. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but so what we're gonna what we're gonna talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a list here of stuff. And I told

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<v Speaker 1>Colby before we started this that I didn't want us

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<v Speaker 1>to just like make a gear list for a spring

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<v Speaker 1>Bear hunt, just like off the internet, just like read

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<v Speaker 1>and saying this would be a good idea, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>really went through and thought about the things that I bring,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, and because I've never gotten out in the

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<v Speaker 1>woods and wished I had something different. I really haven't,

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<v Speaker 1>or or or got out there and realized that there

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<v Speaker 1>was some massive hole in my gear list. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>put it that way. Um So that being said, this

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<v Speaker 1>gear list would be this could easily be put into

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<v Speaker 1>a back backpack hunt. I mean, like, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to have mules to do what we're gonna do. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>when we pack up our mule, we will probably we're

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<v Speaker 1>just packing with one equine animal. The other one will

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<v Speaker 1>be ridden. Basically, what we're gonna do is we gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have two animals and uh, both of them are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have riding saddles on, but one is gonna have a paniard,

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<v Speaker 1>and the one that we pack on will probably have

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and fifty pounds of gear. So let's just

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<v Speaker 1>say seventy five pounds of gear between the two of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and all you'd have to do to get that down

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<v Speaker 1>to that fifty to sixty pound range would be just

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<v Speaker 1>shed a few things that were kind of extracurricular, which

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<v Speaker 1>will probably end up being food and drink. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have the liberty to probably bring you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>sodas or some gatorade or something if we wanted to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and didn't want to like mix powder. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have a little bit more liberally. But I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>that to say that this all this stuff is still

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<v Speaker 1>the same stuff that I would take if I was

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<v Speaker 1>carry stuff on my back. Yeah, that makes sense. But

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<v Speaker 1>we will have some liberty to take more stuff if

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<v Speaker 1>we if we want to. Um, So one of us

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<v Speaker 1>will be walking and I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say that again one of us. Now we can switch off.

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<v Speaker 1>But where we're the one place where planning to go,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about five miles back in and uh, we can

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<v Speaker 1>easily switch off, like somebody will be leading the mule,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to be walking, but you won't necessarily have a

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<v Speaker 1>big heavy pack on while you're walking, you know. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're also carrying camera gear. We're carrying forty pounds

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<v Speaker 1>of extra camera gear that most people wouldn't be taken.

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<v Speaker 1>So does that make sense? Yep? Is that fairy? Okay? Well, um,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start right here. At the top of my list

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<v Speaker 1>is weaponry, and I want to talk about what the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gun then I'm gonna be taken in Montana.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had some people interested in that. And what we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna carry just one gun, even if both of us

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<v Speaker 1>are hunting, I mean, even if Kolbe buys a tag,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll just have this one gun. And what I'm shooting

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<v Speaker 1>right now is UH Best of the West Hunter Elite

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<v Speaker 1>three wind MAAG. Okay, this is UH with with a

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<v Speaker 1>with a husk the baw two by twenty by fifty scope.

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<v Speaker 1>This to me is a super good bear gun for

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<v Speaker 1>black bear or brown bear. Three in a wind maag.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably on the on the smaller side of the

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<v Speaker 1>scale for what you would want to use for brown bear,

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<v Speaker 1>but is fully capable and has the ballistics and has

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<v Speaker 1>has everything it needs for brown bear hunting. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a gun that would spam the span a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>wide swath of North American big game. Okay, But if

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to if you're going to Kodiak and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be you know, hunting ten ft brown bears

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<v Speaker 1>and gonna have shots on a hundred yards, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you would take get different big bore, shorter range gun,

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<v Speaker 1>but thrown wind mag would do it all right. Um, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever seen my best of the West Hunter Elite.

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<v Speaker 1>Not in person. Not in person. I need to go

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<v Speaker 1>get it, show it to you. Um, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about this gun I'm shooting. Uh. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the gun is nine point to five pounds. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>has a fluted stainless steel barrel with a Sarah Coat finish,

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<v Speaker 1>So the barrel is actually black, but it's stainless underneath that,

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<v Speaker 1>so it has a Sarah Coote finish. UM has the

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<v Speaker 1>Best of the West seven style action with a Timney trigger.

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<v Speaker 1>So these guns are built in Cody, wy Woman. Every

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much every component is built in Cody Woman. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if they if they build their their stocks there,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have them built four Best of the West.

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<v Speaker 1>They build the actions there, they build the barrels there,

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<v Speaker 1>they build everything there. Um and uh they now like

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<v Speaker 1>a Timney trigger that is a custom long range, high

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<v Speaker 1>end trigger, like you could go if you were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>trick out one of your guns, you can put a

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<v Speaker 1>Timney trigger on it. And there's several really good triggers.

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<v Speaker 1>Jewel and Timney are two of them. Um, you can

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<v Speaker 1>get it. You can get a Jewel trigger on some

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<v Speaker 1>of the Huska guns, but this one has the Timney trigger,

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<v Speaker 1>which basically the Hunter Elite is. Let me talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the best of the West system is that you purchased

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<v Speaker 1>this gun from them and it is out of the

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<v Speaker 1>box a absolute sniper rifle. They've they've sighted the gun in,

0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:45.760
<v Speaker 1>they've broke the gun in, it's been shot, it's been uh,

0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.600
<v Speaker 1>the scope has been I mean it's totally been sighted in.

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<v Speaker 1>And a custom turret built on the husk Mos scope.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean you could literally get it in the

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<v Speaker 1>mail and pick it up and it's this gun is

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<v Speaker 1>guaranteed accurate out to seven hundred yards. So the beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>thing about husk Moth scopes is I'm not a gun guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a technical gun guy. I've learned my way

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<v Speaker 1>around a little bit the last several years, but most

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<v Speaker 1>scopes are well, first of all, do you know what

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<v Speaker 1>a custom tour it is? Tell us what a custom

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<v Speaker 1>tour it is. That's where they calibrate it so that

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<v Speaker 1>you can dial in like your yardage and yeah everything, um, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's so it's what it is. Is. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>typically inside of scopes, if you're you would you would

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<v Speaker 1>zero in the scope at tuoundred yards that means the

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<v Speaker 1>tundred yards that's hitting dead on. Well, if you're shooting

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<v Speaker 1>a three hundred yards, you have to calculate the hold over. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred yards, you calculate the hold over. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>by the time you get to six hundred yards, you

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<v Speaker 1>might have a four in holdover. And so that's where

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<v Speaker 1>the error comes in. The human error involved in holdover.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold over is a limon, aided by having accustomed turret

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<v Speaker 1>because you dial the turret to the yardage of the

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<v Speaker 1>target and you put the cross hairs directly on it,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's no hold over. Last year, I borrowed a

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<v Speaker 1>gun in Manitoba and it was a gun that did

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<v Speaker 1>not have a husky moscope on it, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>my father and I was gun his muzzloader, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had a little chart taped onto the side of his

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<v Speaker 1>gun that had holdover, you know at three hundred yards

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<v Speaker 1>eight inch holder, four hundred yards sixteen inch holdover. And man,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you practiced, you could get fairly proficient,

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<v Speaker 1>but you guessing how far, you know, at six hundred yards,

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<v Speaker 1>and this muzzleloader was accurate out to that far ridiculously

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<v Speaker 1>high precision muzzloader. But I mean think about holding over

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<v Speaker 1>four ft at six hundred yards. You're guessing what four

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<v Speaker 1>ft looks like at a target six hundred yards away.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean massive probability of human so accustomed turret takes

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<v Speaker 1>that away. The reason huskmall is different is that its

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<v Speaker 1>turret is the only turret that has yardage rather than

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<v Speaker 1>m o A, so a minute of angle. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>like any any uh, they have it patented because so

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<v Speaker 1>on my custom turret it has yardage. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>you range find a bear and he's at four hundred yards,

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<v Speaker 1>you dial it to four hundred. Typically what you would

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<v Speaker 1>do is you would range it to four hundred yards

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<v Speaker 1>and then you would have to calculate the m o

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<v Speaker 1>A and dial to it. And I've never had a

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<v Speaker 1>scope like that, so somebody may correct me, but basically,

0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:41.960
<v Speaker 1>scopes are m o A and you you understand, you

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<v Speaker 1>understand how much a minute of angle is and you

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<v Speaker 1>calculate it. Basically, Yeah, you're other rifle that you already had,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you put a huskmall on it? Yeah? Well, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a big board gun, a four fifty seven magnum,

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<v Speaker 1>and I put the husk male one by six uh

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<v Speaker 1>tactical cope on it. It's a it's a six power

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<v Speaker 1>and um it uh, let's see, yeah, it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a six power the little bit tactical scope

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<v Speaker 1>into it's It's what you do is you gather data.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you so like my Hunter Elite came fully

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<v Speaker 1>ready to roll, okay, But if you want to take

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<v Speaker 1>one of the guns that you have and put a

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<v Speaker 1>huskam My scope on it with a custom tourret, all

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<v Speaker 1>you do is gather ballistics data. So basically, you go

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<v Speaker 1>to the range with a chronograph, you shoot the top

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<v Speaker 1>of you you have to have an already decided what

0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:38.399
<v Speaker 1>top of bullet you want to shoot. You shoot it

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<v Speaker 1>through the chronograph, and then you measure the drop at

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<v Speaker 1>three different distances. Basically, so you like say and you

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<v Speaker 1>tell them this, You say, the gun is zero to

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred yards and it dropped eight inches at two hundred,

0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and it dropped six, you know, eighteen inches at three hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>And basically they do all the physics of bullet drop

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<v Speaker 1>and from those three things and barometric pressure and temperature,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean they take a bunch of things that

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<v Speaker 1>just fine tune this calibration. But those are the three

0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:14.679
<v Speaker 1>main things is that how fast is that bullet flying

0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and how much drop does it have at two different distances?

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<v Speaker 1>And from that data they build a customed turret that's

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<v Speaker 1>built for your gun. It's pretty cool. It's it's super cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the gun that I'm gonna be using. Um

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<v Speaker 1>My that three hundred wind maag's I'm shooting a tuner

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<v Speaker 1>twenty excuse me two twelve grain? Hornerty yelled the ex

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<v Speaker 1>bullet okay, which, uh it's shooting out of that gun

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<v Speaker 1>When we cronoed it, I think it was mainly in

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<v Speaker 1>the ft per second range, but the Internet says it

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<v Speaker 1>should be shooting about hundred feet per second. I think

0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:55.040
<v Speaker 1>when you it's interesting. I wouldn't have known this except

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<v Speaker 1>for several guns that now I've gathered data for Huska

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<v Speaker 1>ball for my guns. Um, well, I take that back,

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<v Speaker 1>I take that back. No, we didn't gather data for

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 1>this one. We gathered data for a different gun. This

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:14.640
<v Speaker 1>gun should be shooting per second. Yeah, yeah, that's smoking

0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 1>for a tune or twelve bullet smoking? So good bear gun?

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<v Speaker 1>Um and do you have any questions on that or

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<v Speaker 1>or comments? No, it's a heavy bullet Hey, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>no way around at the best of west guns are

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that hunter let starts at around

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollars. But man, that's a lot of money.

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 1>But it's also an incredible weapon that you know, unless

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<v Speaker 1>you have a lot of technical skill, a lot of time,

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna have a hard time building a gun

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<v Speaker 1>that good, you know. Um, okay, weaponry to other things

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm gonna categorize and weaponry, kolbe I carry a

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<v Speaker 1>glock ten millimeter is a side arm? Um, A ten

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>millimeter has quite a bit of knockdown power for a

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 1>smaller handgun. I don't want to carry a monster handgun.

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Um So I carry a glock ten millimeter. Isn't that

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:20.920
<v Speaker 1>what a lot of police carry? Well, it's it's got

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 1>more knockdown power than a forty cow and a nine millimeter.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a pretty hefty bullet, you know, bigger than

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<v Speaker 1>the three fifty seven or more, more more power. Um

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>So that's what I carry. What are you gonna carry?

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to carry a side arm too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. You just learned about this trip like

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:46.359
<v Speaker 1>an hour ago. Yeah, he had it out yet. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a I might just take a Revolver just

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:53.400
<v Speaker 1>for simplicity. It's just a three seven. That's that's all

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you need if I want to carry a pistol. I

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<v Speaker 1>we got a forty that that I keep sometimes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think revolver. I lost them. Uh. I lost

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<v Speaker 1>the magazine one time, Uh, whenever I was hog hunting

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>in a pistol and something a little nervous about losing

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<v Speaker 1>another A little nervous about losing another magazine from my

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:18.879
<v Speaker 1>from either one would be good. Where we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>hunting is grizzly country, but it's not the big time

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<v Speaker 1>grizzly country like you hear of in in southwest Montana.

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<v Speaker 1>Um So. But the other thing that I'm gonna classifying

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<v Speaker 1>or weaponry is bear spray, and both of us will

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<v Speaker 1>will have bear spray and pistol. And that's pretty much

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>my philosophy is that bear spray and pistol um both

0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>of them. And I took a lot of flak on

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 1>a YouTube video that I posted where I said I

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:52.199
<v Speaker 1>did not chamber around in my glock as I carried it.

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people were just like, that's crazy, that's

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 1>that's stupid. It's not even worth carrying because typically bear attacks,

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 1>if they happen, happens so quick you don't have a

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of time. Um, I probably will chamber around. I've

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:09.640
<v Speaker 1>just always I've just never been quite comfortable enough, especially

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:14.199
<v Speaker 1>riding mules and stuff, having a round chambered. Um. But

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably just gonna go for it. And this is

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:21.159
<v Speaker 1>what I've always done, and I may maybe somebody has

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>some feedback for me on this. I usually keep the

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>bear spray tucked away, not not far away, but a

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 1>way because my first defense is going to be that pistol. UM.

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>But if you're in a situation where let's let's say

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>we're out there and we're glassing, and all of a

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>sudden we see a gris out there at eighty yards

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 1>and it's just standing there on its hind legs looking

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 1>at us, I would meet. I would have seconds to

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:52.679
<v Speaker 1>get in and get the bear spray. For me, the

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>bear spray is not like an immediate attack, like where

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:56.920
<v Speaker 1>you come around a bush and there's a bear ten

0:27:56.960 --> 0:28:01.879
<v Speaker 1>feet away that's charging you. Like that's when I'm just

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna trust the pistol that I can get it out

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 1>and shoot and hopefully the sound of the gun. I mean,

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:12.440
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna deter that animal from fully charging you. But

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 1>if it does hit you, at least you've got you've

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 1>got some rounds to put in him. Um. So, to me,

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:24.440
<v Speaker 1>bear spray is more like the response that you use

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 1>if you have more than fifteen or twenty seconds, because

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 1>that's all it would take. I mean, I would carry

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 1>it with me all the time, it but it'll be

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:34.640
<v Speaker 1>my pack. And so if I was down in super

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>duper grizz country, I'm sure that I would wear it.

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>But where we're at, the odd grizz might be in there,

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>but it would be cool to see one. Um, but

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not it's not the norm. So that's my weaponry.

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Threw in the wind mag ten minut meter gawk and

0:28:56.560 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>bear spray comments. Uh, I guess if you carry the

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>right pistol, it might not be you know, as big

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>of a deal to keep one in the chamber, you know,

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 1>like a glock doesn't have built in safety. Is like

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>a springfield, you know, like a springfield, you have that

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>that one that makes sure you're holding it. That beaver tail,

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it's what it's called on the back, and

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 1>then you have the trigger and the trigger, like you

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>have a few more things, and I think was it glock?

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Does it have the like a trigger that's just no safety. Yeah,

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 1>so I mean but ultimately, I mean you're not gonna

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the the actual trigger would be covered by

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 1>your Yeah, I mean it's it's deep in a sheath.

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 1>It's deep in a sheath. It's well buckled. I mean

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>it's it's pretty safe. Yeah, but still it's just a

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>mental thing of you know, I grew up bow hunting

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>so much that my dad put the fear of God

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>in that's about guns, which is good. Yeah. Um, but

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 1>I agree up the guns in the corner. Yeah. Well,

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and we did too, but it was just a you know,

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean we just we didn't We didn't recreate with

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 1>guns that much. Other shooting skied and were hunting stuff,

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>but I mean we weren't shooters and just put it

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>that way. Yeah, you know, I grew up on a

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>more of a farm and so it was just like,

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, if something was coming up, getting after something, yeah,

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you could take care of it. Always had a loaded

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 1>weapon close yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right, let's go into

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>the back country camping gear, all right, And I'm just

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna go down this list and perhaps we'll put this

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 1>list up. I I don't know if I want to

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>be so bold as to put our list up, because

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:47.719
<v Speaker 1>there's there there's certain things that probably we're gonna end

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:49.479
<v Speaker 1>up taking that aren't on this list. But these are

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the main things. Tent. Yeah, tent I have. I have

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>gotten through everything that I've ever done with a fifteen

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>year old cell tech too man tent. Yeah. I believe

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>it's called Celtic sounds right. Um, you know, back fifteen

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>years ago, it was like a pretty high quality, lightweight

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>mountaineering tent. Yeah, nothing, nothing special, but a pretty good one.

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>And I've carried it to Montana, I've carried it in Arkansas,

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and I've used it quite a bit. What kind of

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>tent do you have? It's some off brand one I

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>think that I got on Amazon. You're supposed to be

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>the gearhead. Yeah, well you told me. He told me

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:32.479
<v Speaker 1>an hour ago. He's like, yeah, I got a two

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 1>man tent. I figured he'd like to be able to

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:37.239
<v Speaker 1>tell the weight of it and you no, No, It's like,

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, at some point we need to get does

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 1>it have any cartoon characters on it? Like Snoopy. I

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I bought it for a click trip last

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 1>year and I never used it, so I haven't even

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>got it up and put it up. Okay, well it's

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 1>probably got like Snoopy or like Barbie dolls on it.

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>The little kids tents. Yeah, Pink is gonna be animated.

0:31:56.040 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>It's supposed to be an army green kind of you know. Well,

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>but we need to get on those Nemo ones at

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>First Light. Yeah with them, Yes, just kind of ran

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>out of time. Yeah, first Light doesn't have him. I

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>contacted uh Bridget at First Light the other day and

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>they don't have them in the office yet. Yeah. But yeah,

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 1>so Nemo and First Light have have started doing some

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>branded branded content, branded content, branded merchandise for Backer. They've

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>got some sleeping bags and tents and a bunch of stuff.

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>We will certainly have some of those in the future. Yeah.

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>The other thing that we talked about that we should

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>have for this hunt, and we may figure out a

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 1>way to get one, is a Kafaru. Yeah, that'd be great. Um.

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've done pretty good with my little tent,

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 1>but I would like to I would like to upgrade. Um,

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and that would be one that would be good. The

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Kafaro or the first light Nemo stuff. Yeah, yeah, they

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>all packed down pretty small. I think the main thing

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 1>that we need to that we need to do on

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>this trip before we go is pull this tent out

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and reseal it. Yeah, you know, just to make sure

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 1>that if we get in a massive thunderstorm up there,

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>it stays dry. I will also take with me a

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 1>eight by ten to ten by ten tarp that I

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 1>will put over the top of that if it rains.

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 1>When we were back country hunting in Arkansas over Christmas break,

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>we were in a horrendous thunderstorm one night, but we

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>had a tarp stretched over the tent, so we had

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the tent underneath the tarp that was tied with para

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>cord and uh, the tent kept water out. But still

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>we need to we need to make sure that that

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 1>thing don't leak. But so I will take a B

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 1>ten tarp with us, which is not on my list here.

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>But so there's obviously a lot more we can talk

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>about when it comes to wilderness shelters. That's the main thing.

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>So for two of us, we're probably just gonna take

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>one tent and we're gonna take his colby snoopy tent

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>um maybe for gear. Uh, we're gonna have it because

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>it's it's pretty small. Okay, Um, so let's talk about betting. Yeah,

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 1>every I've traveled in spring and fall the last several years,

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 1>and I have found the sweet spot when you're hunting

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 1>and temperatures between sixty five and twenty degrees fahrenheit to

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 1>be a thirty degree bag. Okay, it's uh, the bag

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 1>isn't too huge, but it's it's also not too small.

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:35.720
<v Speaker 1>And I've found that I, um, every time I hunt,

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I usually sleep in the clothes that I'm wearing, and

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.839
<v Speaker 1>if it's my first light gear, like I'm wearing like

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 1>my bass layers, and then probably a puffy puffy jacket

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 1>in a in a toboggan or beanie, and uh, stay

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty warm. I find that a thirty degree bag doesn't

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:58.359
<v Speaker 1>actually actually keep me warm at thirty degrees. I don't

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>know if have you ever experienced if you can't much, Yeah,

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that they they design them to where you

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 1>can still survive at thirty Yeah, well in that case,

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I've heard that before. Actually now that you

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>say it, and that's been my experience, is that like,

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>if you were just thirty degrees, you know, just sleeping

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>without much many clothes on, you'd be uncomfortable. But the

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>temperatures when we're gonna be a Montana are gonna be

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 1>from sixty five to thirty degrees. Potentially up with a

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>little bit of elevation will be colder, So we're gonna

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>have thirty degree sleeping bags. I've got some Cabella's I

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:40.800
<v Speaker 1>believe they're called Invader. It's a Cabella's branded sleeping bag

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and it's uh, it's pretty good, pretty good bag. I

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>like that. Um. I like to take a blow up

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 1>therm arrest. I actually used. I've got one straight up

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>therm arrest. But also have a Cabella's branded you know

0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 1>air mattress type deal that rolls up really small. Yeah,

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>and it's pretty thick. It takes quite a bit of

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 1>effort and energy to blow it up, but it's pretty

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>good on a back country hunt. I also almost always

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 1>take a full sized pillow. And now that is a luxury.

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it's worth it. Yeah, Well, that's a luxury

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>that if you're riding a mule you can take. If

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:24.240
<v Speaker 1>you were backpacking in you probably wouldn't do it. You'd

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.320
<v Speaker 1>be you'd be taking a little camping pillow. I've also

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 1>just slept on my clothes before as a as a yeah,

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 1>as a pillow. I've used the my puffy first light

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:37.799
<v Speaker 1>jacket like it folds up into its home pocket. I've

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 1>used that before, for sure. I've I've done the same thing,

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>all those fold up in the little football shapes. Um.

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 1>But if you're gonna be back there for four or

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 1>five days and you've got the room on a mule,

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I will probably bring one full sized pillow. Now, you

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:56.879
<v Speaker 1>the cameraman won't be able to coby. Yeah, you're you're

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:58.919
<v Speaker 1>on your You're on your own. You'll test test out

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:01.839
<v Speaker 1>all these other ways to pillow. Yeah, just ki, Yeah,

0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 1>you just I'm gonna use the cameras as my pillow,

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 1>just to make sure that they're protected. Hey, you know what,

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>James Lawrence, my old buddy, James Lawrence man when they

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:13.839
<v Speaker 1>camped back in the nineteen seventies. I mean literally they

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 1>were just camping in these little army tents and he

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 1>used his saddle as his pillow. Interesting, he was, He's

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the one that I kind of mirrored my back country

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 1>hunting off of. And uh, he was just looking for

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:28.879
<v Speaker 1>something elevated to lay his head on, so his head

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't lay back flat on the ground. So he slept

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 1>on that leather saddle as his pillow. Yeah, so you'll

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>be you'll be fine toughing it out. We've got two

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:42.680
<v Speaker 1>sets used. Yeah, we got you. You will have two

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:47.840
<v Speaker 1>saddles to sleep on. Um, so I take a real pillow, uh,

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 1>sleeping bag, mattress, pillow. That's it for sleeping. That's all.

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 1>That's all we'll have. Um. Okay, let's talk about food.

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I use a jet boil that what's what's the other

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 1>brand that's so good? It? That's probably better? Oh man,

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 1>it just escaped you said it a minute ago. Jet

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>boil is the one that like will pop into your head.

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I can find out once you find out what it is.

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah we should, we should know this, but they jet

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 1>boil like contraption that burns the ice. Approprial fuel is

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>what you've gotta have. And uh, I've heard people say

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 1>that jet boil is not supportive of modern conservation brilliant

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 1>hunters like us MSR. Yeah. MSR is probably a better

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 1>a better buy for for people. I currently do have

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>to admit that I have a jet boil, and uh

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 1>so we will we will be if this will be

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:44.319
<v Speaker 1>a freeze dried food based backcountry hunt. Um, we'll take

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>a jet boil, will take multiple extra canisters of ice

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>propate fuel. Those things burn forever though you get a

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 1>big one. I mean they burn forever, but you don't

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.799
<v Speaker 1>want to run out. Um, we'll use that. We'll use

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>that jet boil or that that earner to make coffee.

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Usually just bring some instant coffee, either the crystals or

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 1>the packs, the little little like tea pouch type coffee deals.

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm new to the coffee world, okay. Yeah, Colby Kobe,

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he's new. He dodn't really drink coffee that much.

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 1>You will in the back country. You will appreciate it.

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Uh I. Now, this is a mule man's luxury right here.

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I bring real half and half with me wherever I go.

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:29.919
<v Speaker 1>If I'm in Alaska, if I'm in Montana, if I'm

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:33.720
<v Speaker 1>in back country of Arkansas, I will have about twenty

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 1>five of those little little creamers. Okay, call me a sissy,

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 1>it's okay. I'm okay with it. I gotta have my

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 1>good half and half with my coffee, okay. Um, So

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 1>The main experience that I have with freeze dried food

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 1>has been with Mountain House. And there's a whole podcasts

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:57.880
<v Speaker 1>that talk about the different options for food, but Mountain

0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 1>House is probably the most popular, most readily available, most

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 1>commercialized of the freeze dried foods, and I've had great

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 1>experiences with them. They've got a lot of sodium in them.

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 1>They they any of the freeze dried food does for

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:15.399
<v Speaker 1>the most part. Uh, That's the one thing I've heard

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:16.800
<v Speaker 1>is that they do have a lot of sodium. So

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 1>if you're eating them for six seven days in a row,

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 1>you know you have a tendency to kind of feel bloated,

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:26.799
<v Speaker 1>very a lot of calories. I think they taste great.

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I do not get tired of them. I really don't.

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean I could eat them. I could eat one

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 1>for lunch right now and just feel like I'd gone

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 1>out the dinner. I like them. Um, what I have

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:42.799
<v Speaker 1>done on hunts where I've been with multiple people, as

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 1>I've calculated to per day, I mean, you really don't

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 1>want to eat more than two per day, even though

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>it seems like a small amount of food, it's a

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of food, and uh, but what happens is if

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 1>for some reason you're really hungry and eat three in

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 1>a day. I don't know that I've ever eaten end

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 1>the day, but you could because you average it out.

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Like so if two of us are going and we're

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:06.879
<v Speaker 1>planning to be back in there for five days, I mean,

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 1>you take two per day per person, so you take right.

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 1>And they're pretty expensive. It costs like cheapest you can

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 1>get them as about seven eight dollars each, even when

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>you buy him in bulk, and that's what I do.

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I buy him in bulk in these like twenty pack buckets,

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:30.839
<v Speaker 1>and um, there's a wide variety of options, but it's

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 1>all good. Then I do bring an assortment of other

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:39.759
<v Speaker 1>just non perishable goods, pretty much whatever I can fit

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 1>in there that I think might be good. I mean,

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:44.479
<v Speaker 1>I got might go to the grocery store and buy

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 1>some some raisins and some peanuts and some cliff bars, um,

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, just just things that you can kind of

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 1>stash around that you can snack on throughout the day.

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 1>And then I also have on my list here I

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 1>usually bring some type of candy, I mean, just straight

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 1>up sugary candy for those moments, Kobe, when you're just

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:10.839
<v Speaker 1>you just need a boost of something. It pairs well

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>with bear yep. Yeah, for like drawing in a bear. Oh,

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I was talking about more. Actually we

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 1>get one okay, okay, got you got Okay, So we

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:21.879
<v Speaker 1>would use this celebratory Okay, I thought you were talking

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>about baiting the bears. No, no, I don't know if

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Montana would look Nope, can't do that. I can't do that.

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Kobe Kobe out there baiting them with like sweet tarts

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>on the ground, like making little trails back to our

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>camp camp. Um. No, let's see coffee creamer, small amount

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 1>of candy, cliff bars, planning for two mountain houses per day.

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's pretty much it. That. One of

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the limiting factors though, if you're doing a longer hunt

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 1>in the back country is food. Yeah. That's what we

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:59.719
<v Speaker 1>found when we when we were carrying stuff in was

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.960
<v Speaker 1>was food. Now when I went with Gym Sessions, Jim

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 1>is a veteran back country hunter that would bust the

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 1>trends of all these younger guys that are hunting. Jim

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 1>has been hunting. Jim's I don't know how old Jim is,

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 1>his fifties, like maybe even late fifties. And he's been

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:22.240
<v Speaker 1>hunting Wyoming by himself on mules and horses his whole

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 1>life basically. And he brings a lot of fresh food

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>school he really does. His wife cooks a bunch of

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff and uh, I mean we were eating I'm trying

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:35.760
<v Speaker 1>to even remember how this was possible. It was pretty

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:38.279
<v Speaker 1>cool when we were hunting and his wife made a

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:41.240
<v Speaker 1>bunch of breakfast burritos that they just wrapped up and foil.

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 1>We ate for probably three days. My cousin did that

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 1>when we went to Colorado. Yeah, now we're all back

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 1>country hunting. We were so yeah, well ice chest, yeah yeah, well,

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's what we did. We we carried all this

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:58.239
<v Speaker 1>stuff in ice chest and then once we went back in,

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, it was pretty it was pretty cool.

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 1>So the stuff stayed cool, but you'd be surprised how

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:08.360
<v Speaker 1>long cooked food will stay good if it's staying pretty cool.

0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 1>And so we did that. We carried he carried some

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.759
<v Speaker 1>sausage and eggs and he likes to carry a full

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:18.239
<v Speaker 1>cooking kit. Now, so we were cooking fresh food for

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:21.839
<v Speaker 1>the most part. Yeah, and he was he was kind

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 1>of in charge of the logistics of our hunt at

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:29.319
<v Speaker 1>that time. Um, so I wouldn't be opposed to bring

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>in a couple of days worth, you know, bringing a

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 1>We'll probably bring a skillet and some you know, some

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 1>bacon and some eggs or something just to kind of

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 1>for fun for a day or two then, but that's

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:45.879
<v Speaker 1>probably what we'll do. So can you I guess? Uh,

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's pretty we're just kind of hitting the

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 1>high points. This is a generic list here. That's my

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 1>main thing for food. Yeah. The other part of that

0:44:55.680 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 1>would be water. Pretty much on a mule based time,

0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:03.799
<v Speaker 1>we could bring some water, and we may bring a

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 1>few bottles of water, but water will not be the

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 1>limiting factor because we'll be able to get to the creek.

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 1>And what I have used before is this, Uh I've

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 1>got it written down here. Yeah, it's the Catatin base

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Camp Pro ten leader water filter. That's what it's called.

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:25.439
<v Speaker 1>It's k A T A D Y in base Camp

0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Pro and so it's this hanging back. It holds ten leads.

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:31.239
<v Speaker 1>So you go down the creek try to get some

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 1>fast running water that's uh, you know, in full of mud.

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 1>But even if it was, this thing would filter it.

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Um and you you set it up and it drips,

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 1>so you unhinched this little cord and you put your

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 1>container down. There will bring some like now gene bottles

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 1>something like that, and you know it'll take it three

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 1>or four minutes to fill up your water container. Gravity filter, yep,

0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:00.360
<v Speaker 1>gravity filter. So we'll bring one of the those. But

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:04.319
<v Speaker 1>we'll also bring a LifeStraw. Yeah, I've got one of those. Two. Yeah,

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 1>those are handy, just just to have in your pack,

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 1>stick in the mud hole and drink if you had to. Um.

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Where we're gonna be hunting is gonna be up above

0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 1>where there's much water. There might be some snow banks

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 1>around that we'd be able to gather a little bit

0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:20.520
<v Speaker 1>of water to boil down if we wanted to for

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 1>mountain houses and stuff. But we will have to carry

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:26.239
<v Speaker 1>some water up. Now, we could easily go down two

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:28.400
<v Speaker 1>thousand feet and get water and come back up on

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:30.879
<v Speaker 1>a mule, which wouldn't be that big of a deal

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 1>if you're on foot, it would be Yeah, you know,

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. Where we're gonna be camping is well,

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 1>it all depends on where the snow line's at. I

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I ideally would be camping at six

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:45.279
<v Speaker 1>thousand feet. Now we may we have not got into

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 1>the nitty gritty of it's six thousand feet even there

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 1>right now might be a under four feet of snow.

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:56.560
<v Speaker 1>In that case we'll be camping lower than that. But

0:46:56.560 --> 0:47:02.240
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, that's what we'll that's what we'll take. Um,

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 1>here's a couple of just different things will be. You know,

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:09.799
<v Speaker 1>you you take your personal toiletries and whatever. You you know,

0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 1>you take a toothbrush and toothpaste, you know for sure. Um,

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>wet wipes. Yeah, I'm big wet white man. Yeah, yep,

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:24.399
<v Speaker 1>wet wipes. They're good for all kinds of stuff, even

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 1>just cleaning your hands. You know, at the end of

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:30.320
<v Speaker 1>the day, if you've if you've been messing with the mules,

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 1>or you know, you just or just kind of taking

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:36.759
<v Speaker 1>a small just like wipe down bath with one of them,

0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 1>you just feel refreshed. So I like taking wet wipes.

0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Um primethrin. When we were in Montana the first year,

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:50.640
<v Speaker 1>it was ridiculous how many ticks there were and we

0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:54.399
<v Speaker 1>were totally unprepared. I'm prepared. I mean I didn't even

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:59.360
<v Speaker 1>have any off. Um, we will spray down our clothes

0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:02.919
<v Speaker 1>with with this. Uh, how do you say it? Yeah,

0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:07.279
<v Speaker 1>permethrin and and that I'll that'll keep that'll keep the

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:11.799
<v Speaker 1>ticks at bay pretty good. Yeah, that's something for sure.

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 1>We bring garment in reach for navigation. Both of us

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:17.680
<v Speaker 1>have garment in reaches for If you don't know what

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:19.400
<v Speaker 1>a garment end reach, I mean most guys in the

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 1>honey world probably would. But it's a it's a it's

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 1>a GPS and a satellite text messaging device. It costs

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 1>about foreigner bucks. You pay about eleven dollars a month

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:34.120
<v Speaker 1>the lowest possible plan and basically you get ten free

0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 1>text messages per month and you've got an s O

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:39.719
<v Speaker 1>S button. So if we get back in there and

0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:43.360
<v Speaker 1>something happens, we could hit s O S and it

0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 1>alerts the local authorities that somebody's in trouble and they

0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:50.879
<v Speaker 1>need to send help. Basically up. Yeah, so you don't

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 1>want to hit that button on accident. Now Here, they

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 1>actually message you. They try to message you to like

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:58.880
<v Speaker 1>say what's going on? Yeah, you know, so potentially if

0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:01.359
<v Speaker 1>you hit it on accident, you could go my bad.

0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:06.440
<v Speaker 1>But no guarantees on that, um, but uh, it does

0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 1>make you feel just a little bit better to know

0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:14.200
<v Speaker 1>that if something crazy happened that you could hit that

0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:17.440
<v Speaker 1>button and you know, you couldn't count somebody getting there fast.

0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:21.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it'd be difficult to hit that s OS

0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:24.880
<v Speaker 1>on accident on accident. They've got to get it pre protected.

0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:28.719
<v Speaker 1>They and actually when you hit it, it gives you

0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:32.000
<v Speaker 1>accuse you again. It says are you sure you want

0:49:32.000 --> 0:49:34.160
<v Speaker 1>to do this? I mean, it says something like that,

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 1>and so then you hit yes, and it's uh and

0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:41.480
<v Speaker 1>you're good. She okay, we gotta we got firm the

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:45.360
<v Speaker 1>plothhound in here. She's getting a little restless, so that'll

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 1>be how we navigate. Will also have our on X

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:51.360
<v Speaker 1>on our phones will download these sections so you'll be

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:53.920
<v Speaker 1>able to kind of look at some because the garment

0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 1>these en reached garments. If you're using the stuff that

0:49:57.760 --> 0:50:00.959
<v Speaker 1>the maps that come with them, they're not great maps. Yeah,

0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:02.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're not. I don't want to dog them.

0:50:02.880 --> 0:50:06.120
<v Speaker 1>They're there, but they're not like highly detailed maps, and

0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 1>it's certainly not satellite imagery or as user friendly. Yeah,

0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:12.880
<v Speaker 1>yeahs on it. Yeah, it's kind of like a just

0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:21.320
<v Speaker 1>a last resort type deal. Um, okay, here's a little

0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 1>tech tip for you that country camping tip. Yeah, I

0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 1>have a pair of croc like shoes. I do as well. Okay,

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 1>I carry those with me everywhere I go. Let your

0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:35.319
<v Speaker 1>feet dry out at night. It's so nice to be

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 1>even in the back, and they're super light. Yeah. Do

0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:41.959
<v Speaker 1>you wear multiple pairs of socks? No? Yeah, I saw

0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:45.040
<v Speaker 1>where guys will have like a where two pairs of

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:47.880
<v Speaker 1>socks will be like a liner layer of some Marino sock,

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:51.640
<v Speaker 1>and then they'll put their like first light socks like

0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:55.280
<v Speaker 1>on top of that, and then it wicks the moisture

0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:58.239
<v Speaker 1>a way from your foot. It's supposed to help. Yeah,

0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:03.879
<v Speaker 1>that's what sissies do. Okay, uh oh no, No, that's

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 1>probably a good idea. You know, I just wear a variety.

0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I think I have every possible pair of first light socks.

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:15.680
<v Speaker 1>They've got, you know, these crew socks that comped about

0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:19.359
<v Speaker 1>halfway on your calf, which are lightweight, athletic Marino wool

0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:21.880
<v Speaker 1>and spandex, And they've got these ones that come up

0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:25.120
<v Speaker 1>to me, they come up actually almost over my kneecap,

0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:29.840
<v Speaker 1>super tall. But then I've got some of the thicker

0:51:30.480 --> 0:51:35.239
<v Speaker 1>warmer weather socks. But I man marino wool socks to me,

0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:37.759
<v Speaker 1>or a non negotiable. Yeah, you can wear the same

0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:40.440
<v Speaker 1>pair of socks an entire seven day hunt. I might

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 1>do it. I've done it. You know, you gotta let

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:45.160
<v Speaker 1>them dry out at and I mean, you know it's

0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 1>nice to take them off. And I mean if you

0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:49.160
<v Speaker 1>get them like soaking wet and you gotta take them

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:50.640
<v Speaker 1>off and let him dry. But they dry quick and

0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you can pick them up the next day and they

0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:54.200
<v Speaker 1>don't smell terrible, and you can wear them again. They

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:56.760
<v Speaker 1>say you can put stuff that's damp in the sleeping

0:51:56.800 --> 0:52:01.400
<v Speaker 1>bag with you in your body heat dries it. Oh yeah,

0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I've never done that. Um, So here we go. Knife yep.

0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:15.359
<v Speaker 1>I like to carry a Barracuda. Um, have a lone,

0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:17.600
<v Speaker 1>have a line, but I love him the big ones.

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 1>And I carry four or five extra blades in case

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 1>we had to skin a bear too. But you can

0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:26.560
<v Speaker 1>skin a bear on one easily. Yeah, one have lin blade.

0:52:26.840 --> 0:52:29.279
<v Speaker 1>But I'll also take a standard knife and I my

0:52:29.360 --> 0:52:32.560
<v Speaker 1>father in law has a Steve Schultz custom knives. I'll

0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:36.360
<v Speaker 1>carry a pack rap. He's got a little skeleton knife

0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:40.279
<v Speaker 1>with no uh no handle on it. It's just the

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:42.200
<v Speaker 1>handle has been wrapped in para cord. You got one,

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:44.200
<v Speaker 1>don't you. Ye've got one of those two? Yeah, super

0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:47.120
<v Speaker 1>awesome knife has a what's what's the sheath made out

0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:51.520
<v Speaker 1>of on those things, so it's lightweight, clips on your belt,

0:52:51.600 --> 0:52:54.120
<v Speaker 1>has a little little clip on it. You can orientate

0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:56.520
<v Speaker 1>it different ways, which which helps to like I have

0:52:56.640 --> 0:52:59.320
<v Speaker 1>mine on like my backpack on the sleeve of it

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:00.919
<v Speaker 1>where I can just like pull it out real quick

0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:04.480
<v Speaker 1>if I need it for whatever. Yeah, guys, y'all could uh,

0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:06.759
<v Speaker 1>y'all could do y'all could do us a favorite by

0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:09.480
<v Speaker 1>going and checking out Steve Schultz Custom Knives. Yeah, and

0:53:09.560 --> 0:53:11.279
<v Speaker 1>I think it's about a d twenty dollars for that

0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:13.960
<v Speaker 1>pack rap, but it's really high grade steel. It's a

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:18.200
<v Speaker 1>totally custom handmade knife, and you can have all kinds

0:53:18.200 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 1>of different colors on the on the para cord that's

0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:22.960
<v Speaker 1>wrapped around the handle. But it's a great back country

0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:26.160
<v Speaker 1>knife light and just it's just fail proof. I mean,

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:29.680
<v Speaker 1>there's just just a it's just a super strong, good knife.

0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:33.319
<v Speaker 1>I think the my favorite knife as far as like

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:35.600
<v Speaker 1>like one that's produced a lot. We could just go

0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:37.880
<v Speaker 1>buy it, like I could Bella's or something would probably

0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:41.600
<v Speaker 1>be like the bench made like the steep country. Yeah,

0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:45.799
<v Speaker 1>it held such a great edge. Like you know, I've

0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:48.040
<v Speaker 1>used custom knives for so long, I'm totally out of

0:53:48.040 --> 0:53:51.680
<v Speaker 1>the knife world except for the half n which I

0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:59.480
<v Speaker 1>would love, absolutely love. Yeah. But um, all right, so

0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:02.640
<v Speaker 1>these are kind of our camping are camping this is

0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:05.480
<v Speaker 1>our camping list. We talked about tents, We talked about

0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:11.920
<v Speaker 1>therm arrest pillows, heating devices for jet boils and whatnot.

0:54:12.239 --> 0:54:15.960
<v Speaker 1>We talked about food, we talked about crocs, we talked

0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:23.040
<v Speaker 1>about uh permithin um, we talked about sleeping bags, toletries, knives.

0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:26.440
<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of our back country camping gear list.

0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:29.080
<v Speaker 1>What I don't want to talk about now is optics.

0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:33.359
<v Speaker 1>This is a pretty big deal for any back country hunter,

0:54:33.719 --> 0:54:36.279
<v Speaker 1>and it's something that I've been in Arkansas hunter kind

0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:39.240
<v Speaker 1>of had to get used to because I've in Arkansas.

0:54:39.239 --> 0:54:41.960
<v Speaker 1>You can't see more than about forty yards in any direction,

0:54:42.719 --> 0:54:46.359
<v Speaker 1>and so having really good optics has never been really

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:52.560
<v Speaker 1>a limiting factor. But uh, what kind what kind of

0:54:52.600 --> 0:54:55.360
<v Speaker 1>optics tell us about your like us, because that's mainly

0:54:55.360 --> 0:54:57.600
<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna be using. Yeah, they're the like I

0:54:57.640 --> 0:55:01.719
<v Speaker 1>think they're called the gelvid thinking a tim by fifty.

0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:04.440
<v Speaker 1>But they have a built in range finder, just really

0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:08.560
<v Speaker 1>good glass. They're just they're the clearest pair of binoclers

0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:11.399
<v Speaker 1>I've I've looked through. I'm not gonna say they're the best,

0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:16.400
<v Speaker 1>but they're up there with like the Swarowskis and yeah,

0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:21.480
<v Speaker 1>those those other high end So in the range on

0:55:21.520 --> 0:55:23.880
<v Speaker 1>that one, it'll range out to a thousand yards, is

0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:25.759
<v Speaker 1>that right? I think it might even be a little

0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:29.560
<v Speaker 1>further than that. Really, See this is this is what

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:34.799
<v Speaker 1>maybe further than you'll shoot. But you've never had a

0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:39.879
<v Speaker 1>hunter elape best of the web, kid, No, So that

0:55:40.080 --> 0:55:41.959
<v Speaker 1>is an issue when you have a long range rifle

0:55:42.080 --> 0:55:45.560
<v Speaker 1>or even not even I mean anymore. A long range

0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:49.200
<v Speaker 1>shot is or shots that are people are taken are

0:55:49.480 --> 0:55:53.680
<v Speaker 1>longer than previous decades. Let's just say that. And uh like,

0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:57.919
<v Speaker 1>I've got a cheap uh I think it's a six

0:55:58.080 --> 0:56:05.240
<v Speaker 1>hour uh M, just like four hundred yard range finder.

0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just kind of like an archery range

0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:09.200
<v Speaker 1>finder really, And you get out to Montana and all

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:10.839
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden you realize that thing is pretty much

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:15.960
<v Speaker 1>worthless because you can't range across these canyons that five, six,

0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:18.520
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred yards and not that you're gonna take an

0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:22.440
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred yards shop, but it sure helps to know

0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:25.759
<v Speaker 1>the distance, you know, and when you do have a

0:56:25.760 --> 0:56:28.600
<v Speaker 1>gun that's capable of shooting that far and you have

0:56:28.680 --> 0:56:32.479
<v Speaker 1>practiced with it and really feel capable. Which man, I've

0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:37.200
<v Speaker 1>spent seven days hunting with Jim two years ago. I mean,

0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:42.799
<v Speaker 1>super good long range shooter. We talked and talked, and

0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:44.919
<v Speaker 1>I looked at how he how he how he did

0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:47.000
<v Speaker 1>his setups when he would shoot. They do a lot

0:56:47.040 --> 0:56:50.200
<v Speaker 1>of dry firing. Like if let's say you're shooting to

0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:52.360
<v Speaker 1>bear at six hundred yards, you're gonna have some time.

0:56:52.960 --> 0:56:54.919
<v Speaker 1>It's not like he's gonna be running and you're gonna

0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:57.200
<v Speaker 1>be shooting him in that far. If you're shooting a

0:56:57.200 --> 0:56:59.799
<v Speaker 1>long distance, you do have time. So he sets the

0:56:59.800 --> 0:57:02.880
<v Speaker 1>gun on up and he carries his little tripod with

0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:06.600
<v Speaker 1>him within sandbags. He actually carries it in the back country. Yeah,

0:57:07.120 --> 0:57:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you get set up and you unchambered around

0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:14.160
<v Speaker 1>and dry fire it. Put it right on, just like

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:19.080
<v Speaker 1>you want to breathe and squeeze and see what happens

0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:21.840
<v Speaker 1>to the crosshairs when you dry fire. Are you shooting,

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:25.880
<v Speaker 1>are you shooting prone or yep? Prone. Yeah, prone, I mean,

0:57:25.920 --> 0:57:30.680
<v Speaker 1>like that's all he wanted to shoot's prone, and so

0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:33.400
<v Speaker 1>he you would dry fire, and you would gain confidence

0:57:33.760 --> 0:57:37.040
<v Speaker 1>based upon what you saw when you dry fired, or

0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:39.840
<v Speaker 1>potentially you'd realize you need to wait, you know, because

0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:42.120
<v Speaker 1>if that if that cross air drops off of that

0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:45.760
<v Speaker 1>animal or moves that much comes out of the kill zone,

0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:49.720
<v Speaker 1>then you've got no business shooting. And then you know,

0:57:49.880 --> 0:57:53.040
<v Speaker 1>finally you chamber your live round. You're having somebody with

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:56.640
<v Speaker 1>a spot and scope and you you shoot, and so

0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:01.440
<v Speaker 1>it's it's much more calculated than somebody might think who

0:58:01.440 --> 0:58:05.560
<v Speaker 1>had never been in that situation and just like, oh man,

0:58:05.600 --> 0:58:08.120
<v Speaker 1>you're just slinging lead at six hundred yards and an animal.

0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:11.080
<v Speaker 1>That's unethical. I mean, we could have a long, long

0:58:11.160 --> 0:58:13.560
<v Speaker 1>debate about whether it's ethnical to shoot at something at

0:58:13.560 --> 0:58:17.400
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred yards when you've practiced, have the equipment, and

0:58:17.440 --> 0:58:20.760
<v Speaker 1>have done everything, versus taking a thirty five yard shot

0:58:20.840 --> 0:58:25.040
<v Speaker 1>at a deer with your bow. I mean, it's all

0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the ethics of it depend upon the person that's behind

0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:31.680
<v Speaker 1>the trigger or behind the bow, you know. I mean,

0:58:31.720 --> 0:58:34.200
<v Speaker 1>because there's lots of people I know, including me, at

0:58:34.200 --> 0:58:36.400
<v Speaker 1>different times, that have no business shooting at an animal

0:58:36.440 --> 0:58:39.160
<v Speaker 1>at thirty five yards with a bow. Yeah, but it's

0:58:39.200 --> 0:58:41.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot easier to pick on a guy that's long

0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:44.680
<v Speaker 1>range shooting because it seems so it seems so far,

0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:46.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, And maybe you don't have a gun that

0:58:46.920 --> 0:58:49.640
<v Speaker 1>can shoot that far. Maybe you're not capable of shooting

0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:51.560
<v Speaker 1>that far. But I can tell you, and I'm not

0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:54.440
<v Speaker 1>claiming to be a great shot, but I have shot

0:58:54.520 --> 0:58:58.680
<v Speaker 1>my gun out to eleven hundred yards and hit U

0:58:58.840 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 1>eighteen by eighteen still played at eleven hundred yards. Ranted.

0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:04.280
<v Speaker 1>It took me a while. We didn't have the right distance.

0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there was some many variables, but I'm confident

0:59:07.440 --> 0:59:12.080
<v Speaker 1>that I could go back and uh easily even shoot

0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:15.280
<v Speaker 1>that far with this current gun that I've got. And uh,

0:59:15.320 --> 0:59:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and then when I was in BC last year, we're shooting, uh,

0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:20.640
<v Speaker 1>we're shooting two letter coke bottles at eight hundred yards,

0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, I was. I was consistently hitting

0:59:26.880 --> 0:59:28.760
<v Speaker 1>a spot as big as a beach ball at a

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:31.360
<v Speaker 1>hundred yards every shot. And I can't tell you that

0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:34.240
<v Speaker 1>I hit the two letter bottle the first shot. The

0:59:34.360 --> 0:59:37.000
<v Speaker 1>gun was that doing that, But my and I was

0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:40.160
<v Speaker 1>also had to rest on a stump. I mean it

0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:42.640
<v Speaker 1>was like it was kind of like a real hunting situation.

0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:45.680
<v Speaker 1>We're just like we when we did know the exact

0:59:45.760 --> 0:59:47.920
<v Speaker 1>range and we set up and I got a good

0:59:47.960 --> 0:59:50.120
<v Speaker 1>rest on the stump and would have hit a beach

0:59:50.200 --> 0:59:53.400
<v Speaker 1>ball sized spot every single shot for like five or

0:59:53.440 --> 0:59:57.280
<v Speaker 1>six shots at a hundred yards. And I mean it's

0:59:57.280 --> 1:00:00.760
<v Speaker 1>pretty good shooting, um, because first of all, I'm probably

1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:04.720
<v Speaker 1>not gonna take an eight hundred yards shot, but you know,

1:00:06.000 --> 1:00:09.280
<v Speaker 1>a black bear's vitals are in the range of that size.

1:00:09.520 --> 1:00:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Good size black bear would be you could describe it as, yeah,

1:00:12.040 --> 1:00:15.000
<v Speaker 1>about the size of a beach ball, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>ethics all depends upon what you're capable of, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, okay, so that I also want to say

1:00:25.720 --> 1:00:27.920
<v Speaker 1>that I've carried the husk the mall ten by forty

1:00:27.960 --> 1:00:31.680
<v Speaker 1>two s for several years. Super small and lightweight. That's

1:00:31.680 --> 1:00:35.120
<v Speaker 1>what I like about them. Clear Glass. Did they sell

1:00:35.120 --> 1:00:37.920
<v Speaker 1>that anymore? Is it on their website? I haven't been

1:00:37.960 --> 1:00:40.480
<v Speaker 1>able to find it for Yeah, I don't know that

1:00:40.640 --> 1:00:45.000
<v Speaker 1>those are still in production because they sell like on

1:00:45.080 --> 1:00:49.240
<v Speaker 1>their long range s tour. Really okay, they may quit

1:00:49.280 --> 1:00:52.640
<v Speaker 1>selling those, but that's that's what I have carried for

1:00:52.680 --> 1:00:54.800
<v Speaker 1>several years, and I do like them because they're so

1:00:55.000 --> 1:01:01.400
<v Speaker 1>light and they are clear. Um, oh are they up there? Yeah?

1:01:01.480 --> 1:01:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess they got another run of them. They're expected

1:01:04.000 --> 1:01:08.000
<v Speaker 1>August of nine. Okay, so they sold them out and

1:01:08.040 --> 1:01:11.120
<v Speaker 1>now they're getting more in in August. I see. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Then the last section here that we want

1:01:14.400 --> 1:01:19.720
<v Speaker 1>to talk about is clothing. This is probably the hardest

1:01:20.200 --> 1:01:24.320
<v Speaker 1>one because there's so many, so many variables, and guys

1:01:24.360 --> 1:01:27.240
<v Speaker 1>that have not hunted much out on a hunt like

1:01:27.320 --> 1:01:29.800
<v Speaker 1>this often take away too much stuff, which that's what

1:01:29.880 --> 1:01:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I learned about myself. I took way too much gear. Um.

1:01:34.000 --> 1:01:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you what I pack and what I'm

1:01:37.160 --> 1:01:40.200
<v Speaker 1>familiar with, and that's first Light Gear. I've been wearing

1:01:40.280 --> 1:01:46.240
<v Speaker 1>first Light Gear since and I've pretty much exclusively worn

1:01:46.320 --> 1:01:51.400
<v Speaker 1>first Light Gear. So I cannot speak really objectively from

1:01:51.440 --> 1:01:55.040
<v Speaker 1>experience with any of the other high end clothing companies

1:01:55.040 --> 1:01:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Sitka Coo you. I've just not worn them, But I

1:01:58.040 --> 1:02:00.760
<v Speaker 1>have warned first Light for all these years and know

1:02:00.880 --> 1:02:03.280
<v Speaker 1>the product line fairly well. I don't know the the

1:02:03.360 --> 1:02:06.120
<v Speaker 1>new twenty nineteen gear as well. I do have one

1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:08.680
<v Speaker 1>of the one of their Uh. I think it's called

1:02:08.680 --> 1:02:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the Brooks. Uh they're they call a sweater. But I

1:02:12.560 --> 1:02:16.560
<v Speaker 1>do have one of their new jackets that nobody's got yet. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But so I'm just gonna go through First Light gear.

1:02:19.200 --> 1:02:21.720
<v Speaker 1>But you this could be translated to other things. But

1:02:22.240 --> 1:02:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I've had great success with First Light. I like them

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<v Speaker 1>as a company, and that's that's all I wear. All right,

1:02:31.320 --> 1:02:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start off with tops. Okay, this is what

1:02:35.760 --> 1:02:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I will bring when we hunt is I will have

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<v Speaker 1>two pairs of Marino Wool underwear that uh, what's it?

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<v Speaker 1>Once you get on the first Light side. So I'm

1:02:48.600 --> 1:02:52.200
<v Speaker 1>not so the names I'm saying are accord. I believe

1:02:52.240 --> 1:02:55.360
<v Speaker 1>they call them. They're like, what do they call it?

1:02:56.200 --> 1:02:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to say red dirt underwear, but I don't

1:02:58.520 --> 1:03:02.440
<v Speaker 1>think that's what it's called. Um, but I'll have two

1:03:02.520 --> 1:03:05.320
<v Speaker 1>pairs of the Marino Will underwear. When I first heard

1:03:05.360 --> 1:03:08.320
<v Speaker 1>about this, I thought, man, that's kind of over the

1:03:08.360 --> 1:03:13.320
<v Speaker 1>top to have Marino Will underwear. But Marino wool truly

1:03:13.480 --> 1:03:17.520
<v Speaker 1>is a magical fabric to have on skin. So if

1:03:17.520 --> 1:03:20.360
<v Speaker 1>you're wearing cotton underwear or some type of spans that

1:03:20.600 --> 1:03:25.520
<v Speaker 1>spandex synthetic underwear that will be the limiting factor, that's

1:03:25.840 --> 1:03:29.880
<v Speaker 1>that of chafing and holding moisture and not drying out.

1:03:30.320 --> 1:03:33.040
<v Speaker 1>And so it makes a ton of sense actually to

1:03:33.160 --> 1:03:38.120
<v Speaker 1>have some Marino wool boxers. Okay um, I think they

1:03:38.240 --> 1:03:42.000
<v Speaker 1>changed the name of them. They've got several different names.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, what are they? One was Dobson okay uh,

1:03:47.440 --> 1:03:53.439
<v Speaker 1>I think the other one was Lynn Brook. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>two pairs of those I'll take, and then I'll take

1:03:57.440 --> 1:04:02.280
<v Speaker 1>a one basse layer pant bass layer of marino wool,

1:04:02.400 --> 1:04:05.480
<v Speaker 1>which what I have is the Alleghany. But I didn't

1:04:05.480 --> 1:04:07.520
<v Speaker 1>see that they've got some a new one called the

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<v Speaker 1>Fuse Long John, which, if you've not heard me talk

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<v Speaker 1>about marino wool before, I was not a believer there

1:04:15.520 --> 1:04:18.200
<v Speaker 1>for a while, or just was inexperienced and and and

1:04:18.440 --> 1:04:22.640
<v Speaker 1>was like a marino will probably not anything special. But

1:04:23.920 --> 1:04:31.720
<v Speaker 1>when I hunt, use marino wool on skin for any

1:04:31.800 --> 1:04:34.840
<v Speaker 1>type of any type of hunting, from super cold hunting

1:04:34.880 --> 1:04:37.280
<v Speaker 1>like in Canada that I do all the way to

1:04:37.360 --> 1:04:40.720
<v Speaker 1>hunting here in Arkansas when it's eighty degrees. A lot

1:04:40.720 --> 1:04:43.440
<v Speaker 1>of people wouldn't understand marino wool when it's hot, but

1:04:43.520 --> 1:04:45.760
<v Speaker 1>it's actually exactly what you want to be wearing when

1:04:45.760 --> 1:04:48.360
<v Speaker 1>it's hot, because it works moresh your way from skin.

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<v Speaker 1>It dries out very quickly. The example I always give

1:04:51.440 --> 1:04:53.320
<v Speaker 1>is if you've got a cotton T shirt that you've

1:04:53.320 --> 1:04:57.040
<v Speaker 1>been outside working in and it gets damp and sweaty,

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<v Speaker 1>that and you watered up and throw it down the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day, that thing will still be damp and

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<v Speaker 1>when you pick it up it just has that smell. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Marino will dries out much quicker than cotton, and when

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<v Speaker 1>it dries out, it does not hold near as much

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<v Speaker 1>older odor. Uh. You know, at different times I've said

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost odor free, but if you wear it for

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<v Speaker 1>like seven days straight, it will have odor um but

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<v Speaker 1>not near as much as caught. I mean, like almost

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<v Speaker 1>exponentially less than cotton. And uh, it doesn't affect the bacteria.

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<v Speaker 1>So like if you go saying to some fast food

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant with it, it'll smell like that, but as far

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<v Speaker 1>as like the sweat and stuff from you like, it

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<v Speaker 1>attacks that it's like anti microbule or something like that

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<v Speaker 1>where it you know, I'm not sure the science behind

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<v Speaker 1>the marino will. I do know that from in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of temperature regulation. And I think we maybe we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this, not another one. Marino wooll. Marino sheep are

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<v Speaker 1>grown in places where it gets very very hot and

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<v Speaker 1>also very very cold. So these cheaper living in places

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<v Speaker 1>that have these huge temperature swings, and so it might

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<v Speaker 1>be cold one day and hot the next, and so

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<v Speaker 1>their wool is capable of insulating when it's cold, but

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<v Speaker 1>also uh regulated, you know, letting heat out when it's hot.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's the why I understood it. And uh

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's what you want to happen inside of

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<v Speaker 1>inside of your hunting gear. But the main thing is

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<v Speaker 1>is that when wool gets wet, it's still insulates. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the tried and true. It's not just marino will

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<v Speaker 1>that does that will. If you get wet, if you

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<v Speaker 1>get wet when you're wearing cotton, you're in trouble. You

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<v Speaker 1>are going to get cold, chilled to the bone. And obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>depending upon how cold it's gonna get, whether it's life

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<v Speaker 1>threatening or whether it's just uncomfortable for the day. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Marino wool is much different than that. Um. But the

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<v Speaker 1>key thing about marino wools it's soft. Most guys think

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<v Speaker 1>of like the old wool ool stuff that people used

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<v Speaker 1>to wear. It would be like scratchy and kind of stickery.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Marino wool a soft wool, and so it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like cotton, so it's comfortable like cotton. First Light

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<v Speaker 1>also has some synthetic blends. So they've got this Marino

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<v Speaker 1>wool stuff that's blended with synthetic stuff, so it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of has an athletic feel. But that's good stuff too.

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<v Speaker 1>The arrow wool believe it's what it's called. But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll Marino wool boxers of Fuse Long John. The

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<v Speaker 1>shirts might go to First Light shirts right now, or

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<v Speaker 1>the Furnace Henley and the Men's Furnace Quarters up. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the Henley. Do you which one? Do you have?

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<v Speaker 1>What pattern? You got? Fusion Fusion? Yeah, yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got some cipher. But so there's lots of different

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<v Speaker 1>options and shirts and you really can't go wrong. But

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<v Speaker 1>those are the two that I'm wearing a lot right now. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and Kobe, I will take two shirts. Let's just say

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<v Speaker 1>we're going into the back country planning for five days.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though we're planning to be gone, we're planning a

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<v Speaker 1>hunt for seven But when we go in the back country,

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<v Speaker 1>I will I will take two shirts, okay, alright, you

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<v Speaker 1>with me? The other shirt, well, bass layer on skin

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<v Speaker 1>Marino wool shirts, and I'll alternate days usually probably what

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<v Speaker 1>that's my theory, alternate did I probably won't do that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to this story. When I was with Gym Sessions

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<v Speaker 1>in Montana, I wore the same day clothes for six

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<v Speaker 1>days straight and never took him off. For real. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>were my alleghany bass layer pants? And I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of marino wool bass layer shirt it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh was there? Uh? Shoot, I forgot, I forgot what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. It was just there there, midweight, just standard

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<v Speaker 1>first Light shirt. It escaped me what it was called.

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<v Speaker 1>But wore him every single day, never took him off.

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<v Speaker 1>And I and I I was wearing at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>the North Branch soft shell pant with the Marino will

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<v Speaker 1>underneath them. That soft shell pant. They don't make them anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I've i've, I've talked with the first Light they they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't hear my plea continue on with the North Branch

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<v Speaker 1>soft shell. I loved it, um, and then and then

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<v Speaker 1>on top I would come in and out of a

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<v Speaker 1>of a un Kapa gray puffy jacket with the hood

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<v Speaker 1>with the hood and I slept in it for six days. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But going back to shirts, so those are the two

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<v Speaker 1>Marino I'll have two Marino wool basse layer shirts. But

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<v Speaker 1>then what I will take with me this year is

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<v Speaker 1>a Klamath hoodie. Ye. The Klamath has a more athletic

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<v Speaker 1>fit than the than the former. My other favorite first

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<v Speaker 1>light gear was the the the quarters zip sweater that

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<v Speaker 1>they had that isn't Marino wool. But the Klamath hoodie

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<v Speaker 1>isn't Marino wool. It's like a it's like a it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like a hoodie, you know. Has um But I

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<v Speaker 1>like the athletic fit and I like the hood. I

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<v Speaker 1>end up pulling that hood over. Those are the three

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<v Speaker 1>shirts that I'll bring. Yeah, so too, Marino wool and

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<v Speaker 1>the Klamath, the Klamath hoodie jackets. Moving right on to jackets.

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<v Speaker 1>I have traveled all over North America chasing Barris with

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<v Speaker 1>an Ukampa gray puffy jacket. I love them. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>to this day, when I pull it out, I like

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<v Speaker 1>feel like warm, fuzzy feelings all down on the inside

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<v Speaker 1>because it is such a awesome jacket. It's lightweight, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not made for beating the brush. I've I've tore some

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<v Speaker 1>holes in them. There's no you can't get around that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not like a car heart jacket, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that's designed to just like beat the brush. But

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot more durable than you think. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And I find that when I layer like with a

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<v Speaker 1>with a let's say I've got that quarters at Marino

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<v Speaker 1>wool on Klamath hoodie unka pargrey vest man, you can

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<v Speaker 1>stay warm or in compagrey jacket. The other jacket quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote that will bring will be Unca pagree vest. I

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<v Speaker 1>love Unca paragrey vest with the Unca pagree puffy jacket. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>super lightweight, but then you get that layering of two

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<v Speaker 1>pretty significant layers. And I find that you can stay

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<v Speaker 1>pretty warm in temperatures down into the thirties with that

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<v Speaker 1>with basically two puffy puffy vest puffy jacket I called

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<v Speaker 1>the puffy I think most of them do too. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I will I do have their new catalyst system, and

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<v Speaker 1>I will probably bring both the top end bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>their catalyst system, which is just their soft shell. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a it's a soft shell, soft shell, like

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<v Speaker 1>the puffy wouldn't be soft shell. The puffy is that lightweight,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of scratchy material that like a bow

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<v Speaker 1>hunter and a tree stand wouldn't want to wear. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but the soft shell is a soft to touch, non

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<v Speaker 1>marino wool uh outer layer that's just a thin just

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<v Speaker 1>a thin jacket. And the pants are the same. They're

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit insulated there. They're like two layered, like

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<v Speaker 1>there's a layer inside and layer outside. But that's their

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<v Speaker 1>catalyst system. The jackets the same. I will also bring

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<v Speaker 1>a sawtooth hybrid jacket that I will layer with based

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<v Speaker 1>upon the weather. So so on this hunt with temperatures

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<v Speaker 1>from sixty six to let's say thirty five degrees, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what the forecast says right now, my maximum layer in

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<v Speaker 1>capacity would be two marino wool shirts Klamath hoodie, uncapagrey vest,

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<v Speaker 1>uncapa gray well under that would be a sawtooth hybrid

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<v Speaker 1>vest and then a puffy full puffy. So that would

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<v Speaker 1>be like that's the way I like to think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to think about could you put everything that

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<v Speaker 1>you have on and stay warm in the most difficult

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<v Speaker 1>circumstances possible. And if the answer is no, then you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have enough because you're preparing for the worst. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're also not wanting to bring way overkill, so you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of want to be like Teeter, right on that edge.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's say it got down to twenty five degrees

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<v Speaker 1>and was windy. I think I would stay at least

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<v Speaker 1>warm enough with what I've got for in this in

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<v Speaker 1>this situation. Does that make sense? Yep? I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good rule of thumb. Think about putting every single

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<v Speaker 1>thing you've got on and would that keep you warm?

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<v Speaker 1>And if it would keep you way too warm, then

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<v Speaker 1>probably you're bringing too much stuff, Like it would be

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<v Speaker 1>way overkill. Like if I had you know, six mid

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<v Speaker 1>mid legs, you know, mid level shirts, and you'll be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I put six shirts on this, this, this, this, this, this, this,

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, man, that's way overkill. You're probably bringing too

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<v Speaker 1>much stuff. Okay, let's talk about pants. Pants. I'll bring

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<v Speaker 1>two kinds of pants. Well, potentially, I've got to make

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<v Speaker 1>a decision. I'll bring the Catalyst soft shell pant they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a thicker pant, and I'll wear the alleghanty

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<v Speaker 1>bottoms underneath them. I bet of this hunt, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make a decision on whether i bring the Corget

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<v Speaker 1>God pants or the Obsidian Marino pants. So the first

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<v Speaker 1>like Corget goide pants are like an athletic fit, like

1:14:26.479 --> 1:14:32.960
<v Speaker 1>stretchy um, kind of feel like almost like spandex like material,

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<v Speaker 1>really comfortable, breathable, lightweight um. But they're more for hot

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<v Speaker 1>weather stuff. The other one is the Marino will pant

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<v Speaker 1>the Obsidian, and I really like those. They would be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better for for weather stuff. They'd be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better for colder weather because potentially you

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<v Speaker 1>would if you got wet, that marino wool would keep

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<v Speaker 1>you warm. Okay, all right. Rain gear Seek, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>all the Seek gear the South It's it's it's an

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<v Speaker 1>acronym for Southeast Alaska. But the First Light seat gear,

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<v Speaker 1>I've yet to get wet in it, and I've used

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<v Speaker 1>it in Saskatchewan and pounding rain and boats and have

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<v Speaker 1>used it a lot um. I didn't have as good

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<v Speaker 1>luck with the storm tight stuff from First Light, but

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<v Speaker 1>they've massively improved it since five years ago when they

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<v Speaker 1>come up with a storm side stuff. The Seek stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is the real deal. I've got Seek pants on top,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got a Seek jacket, the storm top bottoms. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're not sitting in something, those storm top bottoms will

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<v Speaker 1>keep you dry. If you're sitting in a boat seat

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<v Speaker 1>for four hours, that's getting you're just sitting in water.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen them leak. Yeah, they leaked on me a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. But I I ripped them on something. To you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well that that's they're kind of like lower. It's really lightweight.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's not really made for just like setting

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<v Speaker 1>the pounding rain. Yeah. I did great for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was. I was hunting the rain, and eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>like after a couple of hours, it was the SEQ

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't do that to you, Okay, Um, head gear, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the best piece of gear that First Light makes.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is gonna surprise you. This is this is

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<v Speaker 1>Clay Nuke a most valuable player. Yeah. First Light gear

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<v Speaker 1>goes to drum roll goes to the brimmed Marino Beanie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, no, no, no no, no no, no. I was reading.

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<v Speaker 1>I never had a list. I've got a list today.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that it's the tag cuff beanie. Yeah, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>like mine that thing when I was in Idaho hunting

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it was two. It was like negative

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<v Speaker 1>two degrees and we were riding snowmobiles twenty five miles.

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<v Speaker 1>Two of those two tag cuff beanies and then pulling

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<v Speaker 1>up a uh, pulling up stuff, you know, a hoodie

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<v Speaker 1>over your head with whatever you're wearing underneath. Super warm, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that thing gets wet, you stay warm. It's I've carried

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<v Speaker 1>them all over and I usually carry two with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I get pretty cold pretty easy. And man, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can keep your head warm, so good. Um. The other

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I like to wear is that brim brim

1:17:21.240 --> 1:17:24.519
<v Speaker 1>Marino beanie. I like it. I like the short brim.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the way it feels like the lightweightness of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it when people think it looks funny. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you need you need one of them. You've got one

1:17:34.240 --> 1:17:37.240
<v Speaker 1>you were do they think you look funny? I think

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<v Speaker 1>you look funny at him comments, I'm speech all right,

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<v Speaker 1>last thing on the list and then we're gonna close down, Kobe. Um. Gloves,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not a glove man. I mean, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>like freezing cold outside, you know, four out of five

1:17:56.760 --> 1:17:58.680
<v Speaker 1>people have gloves on, and I won't have gloves on.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like to be able to touch stuff, like

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<v Speaker 1>usually i've got camera gear I'm bow hunting or um

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<v Speaker 1>for even when I'm riding the mule, I like to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to feel the reins. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just a personal deal, but but I

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<v Speaker 1>will carry the first light arrow wool liner glove, super thin,

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<v Speaker 1>and and it just it takes the it just takes

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<v Speaker 1>the edge off the cold. But still you get that touch.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. They're not made, they're not durable, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>made for working, and you'll pop a hold on them

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<v Speaker 1>pretty quick. But just for cool mornings when you just

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<v Speaker 1>want to take the take the sting and the edge

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<v Speaker 1>off the cold on your hands. I really like them.

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<v Speaker 1>The only costs like seven teen bucks, so it's a

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<v Speaker 1>cheap little glove, and it's Marino wool so if it

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<v Speaker 1>gets wet, it'll dry out quick. Um. I like them.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I have a hard time find them in a bag. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>They're so small, yep, in the midst of all the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the fusion. Yes, yes, uh, the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I that I carry, and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I carried on this trip or not, but I'll have

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<v Speaker 1>them in the bag at least in the truck and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll make a decision based upon the weather and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the soft shell shooting glove, it's there. It's they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like it almost feels like it's neopreme. It's not,

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<v Speaker 1>but and it goes way up on your wrists and

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<v Speaker 1>vel crow's pretty hype on your wrist, probably two inches

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<v Speaker 1>above your hand yea. And I mean they're pretty solid

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<v Speaker 1>gloves that you could use for I mean, you could

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<v Speaker 1>shoot in them. Uh well they're a shooting glove, but

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<v Speaker 1>you could. Uh they're they're tougher. You know, you could

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<v Speaker 1>move around logs at camp and I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're kind of made for doing stuff like that at looks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's been my experience. And those are the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>have to cut up for your like archery relation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it is. That's what it is. Those Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well I will carry those also had their uh scree gloves. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe they got one called screw they're used to.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just kind of a standard, just like smaller glove,

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<v Speaker 1>but a notch up and turn is a protection from

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<v Speaker 1>their errol liner their errow wol excuse me. They came

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<v Speaker 1>out with quite a few gloves this year. They've got

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of new ones. I haven't really looked at

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<v Speaker 1>them yet. Yeah, we've got a bunch of new ones. Well, hey,

1:20:12.280 --> 1:20:14.760
<v Speaker 1>we've gone, We've gone long enough. Here, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>this is our list. I guess it's been fairly exhaustive.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would feel confident today using this list and going.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's gonna be something like, you know, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>put like a lighter on here, Like, yeah, you should

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<v Speaker 1>take I carry a lighter with me every time I

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the truck in the back country. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like starting fires, or like a good pair of boots. Well,

1:20:35.920 --> 1:20:38.519
<v Speaker 1>we didn't talk about boots. Yeah, yeah, I mean these

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<v Speaker 1>are I guess there's some things that are just like

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<v Speaker 1>givings that we didn't talk about. Let's talk about boots.

1:20:44.040 --> 1:20:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Though I've been using the Cambella's Denali for several years.

1:20:49.840 --> 1:20:52.760
<v Speaker 1>My boots are so war out there on their last leg.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't deserve to go back to Montana. But those

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<v Speaker 1>of the kangaroo ones, like no, no, that's what I

1:20:58.120 --> 1:20:59.760
<v Speaker 1>wore when I was in Montana last time, and I

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<v Speaker 1>got y. They don't repel, they're not gortex on the inside.

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<v Speaker 1>So they But what tell us what kind of boots

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<v Speaker 1>you have? You have some good ones? Yeah, I got

1:21:08.320 --> 1:21:11.920
<v Speaker 1>some kind of trucks. Um, I'm not sure. I know

1:21:11.960 --> 1:21:14.760
<v Speaker 1>they're uninsulated, so like the only insulation would be like

1:21:14.880 --> 1:21:18.559
<v Speaker 1>the sock. Um, they come up, you know, a little

1:21:18.600 --> 1:21:21.960
<v Speaker 1>above my ankle. But yeah, they're really like you when

1:21:22.000 --> 1:21:23.760
<v Speaker 1>you put them on. At first they feel really tight,

1:21:23.880 --> 1:21:27.480
<v Speaker 1>but then all of a sudden, they just they feel great. Uh.

1:21:27.600 --> 1:21:30.320
<v Speaker 1>So this would be my first back country hunt wearing

1:21:30.360 --> 1:21:33.679
<v Speaker 1>them though. Yeah, but uh yeah, they're they've been great

1:21:33.720 --> 1:21:36.960
<v Speaker 1>so far. Well you see, yeah I didn't. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>put boots on. I mean, is there anything else that

1:21:39.720 --> 1:21:43.720
<v Speaker 1>probably would be on the I mean lighter boots. I

1:21:43.720 --> 1:21:46.880
<v Speaker 1>mean not other than just like the normal normal things.

1:21:46.920 --> 1:21:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's gonna have their own little pleasantries. They might bring

1:21:50.000 --> 1:21:52.080
<v Speaker 1>like half and half. Yeah, and we really I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we really got into like different types of packs

1:21:54.360 --> 1:21:57.639
<v Speaker 1>or anything like frank picks. But in that one with mules,

1:21:57.880 --> 1:21:59.600
<v Speaker 1>you know that. And that's a good one that I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't And again me not being a gear head, guys

1:22:03.439 --> 1:22:07.120
<v Speaker 1>could flip out over packs. Hey, you're gonna go ahead

1:22:07.120 --> 1:22:09.439
<v Speaker 1>and say this and if there's a there's somebody, there's

1:22:09.479 --> 1:22:11.719
<v Speaker 1>a fine company out there that would like to sponsor

1:22:11.800 --> 1:22:16.160
<v Speaker 1>this trip. I have for three years used a thirty

1:22:16.240 --> 1:22:23.120
<v Speaker 1>dollar Walmart pack field Line Baby, the field Line. Actually

1:22:23.160 --> 1:22:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm sponsored by field Line a year. Right. That pack

1:22:29.200 --> 1:22:32.719
<v Speaker 1>is awesome. I mean it won't it's not gonna last forever,

1:22:33.000 --> 1:22:35.720
<v Speaker 1>and it's starting to tear into place or two. But

1:22:35.920 --> 1:22:37.840
<v Speaker 1>now we need some good packs. And we're looking at

1:22:37.880 --> 1:22:42.080
<v Speaker 1>some exo mountain gear stuff in the stuff, and and

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<v Speaker 1>I have a I have a couple of like standard

1:22:45.120 --> 1:22:51.280
<v Speaker 1>issue fifteen year old uh uh solid frame packs you

1:22:51.360 --> 1:22:55.880
<v Speaker 1>know that are just nothing special. But I have yet

1:22:55.960 --> 1:22:58.479
<v Speaker 1>the nerd out on backpacks. Yeah, I think the load

1:22:58.479 --> 1:23:01.080
<v Speaker 1>shelf is a little little low, one of those older ones.

1:23:01.320 --> 1:23:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that's one of the things that yeah, yeah,

1:23:05.920 --> 1:23:08.320
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, it's it's been good. I haven't used it

1:23:08.720 --> 1:23:12.080
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot, you know, but uh yeah, just any

1:23:12.080 --> 1:23:14.400
<v Speaker 1>of these newer packs or are going to be really good.

1:23:15.200 --> 1:23:17.599
<v Speaker 1>But it sounds like you have to get the measurements right,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, so like not it's not one pack

1:23:21.320 --> 1:23:23.240
<v Speaker 1>fits all you have to measure I think it's from

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<v Speaker 1>like your Eliot Crest thinking factors that in like you're

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<v Speaker 1>going from the top of your hip bones basically to

1:23:29.400 --> 1:23:34.080
<v Speaker 1>like I think the warrior back would bend a little bit.

1:23:34.720 --> 1:23:37.959
<v Speaker 1>But there's there's good stuff out there on the online

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to measure right for the pack,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you go to any of these like shows

1:23:44.040 --> 1:23:46.160
<v Speaker 1>and they bring the packs out, you can try one like.

1:23:46.240 --> 1:23:48.680
<v Speaker 1>That's why I went with with qu was because they

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<v Speaker 1>came to show close to my house and I could

1:23:51.560 --> 1:23:57.439
<v Speaker 1>try it on and see what fit me at the time. Yeah, yeah, good. Well,

1:23:58.080 --> 1:24:01.320
<v Speaker 1>there's certainly a lot of stuff like that that is

1:24:01.360 --> 1:24:04.880
<v Speaker 1>not on this but in terms of just like this

1:24:04.920 --> 1:24:07.960
<v Speaker 1>is the basics. This is the basics, And we went

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<v Speaker 1>through a few specifics of stuff that we're that we're using.

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<v Speaker 1>But but we are going we are going to Montana

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<v Speaker 1>here sometime quite soon. Hey, I do want to say

1:24:18.479 --> 1:24:20.960
<v Speaker 1>too on this podcast. I'm not sure if we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>making another one right away, but one of one of

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<v Speaker 1>our films was selected to be in the back Country

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<v Speaker 1>Hunters and Anglers Anglers Film Festival, The Rendezvous. The Rendezvous. Yeah,

1:24:33.400 --> 1:24:37.000
<v Speaker 1>we made ah, we made a film about squirrel hunting

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<v Speaker 1>on mules that made the cut, and you may have

1:24:40.640 --> 1:24:45.360
<v Speaker 1>seen the film on YouTube. Um, but this is a

1:24:45.560 --> 1:24:48.599
<v Speaker 1>this is a special back Country Hunters and Anglers version.

1:24:49.280 --> 1:24:53.479
<v Speaker 1>That hunt took place on public land. And uh, they

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<v Speaker 1>told me that there were multiple upwards of a dozen

1:24:59.120 --> 1:25:03.639
<v Speaker 1>squirrel hunting on mule videos submitted, but ours was the best.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that guy actually from b h A actually

1:25:06.760 --> 1:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>said that to me and I believed him. I was

1:25:08.880 --> 1:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>like reading this email in slow motion. I was just like,

1:25:11.320 --> 1:25:16.320
<v Speaker 1>you're kidding me. A dozen people submitted videos on scrown

1:25:16.439 --> 1:25:19.439
<v Speaker 1>with the mules. This is ridiculous. And then he put

1:25:19.479 --> 1:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>a little smiley face and I realized he was kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>But so our film will be in that I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to that. The mules will be making a reappearance. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you watch that Smokey, I mean, smoke is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty old. So assuming that he he lives through the departure,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, like, if Tray didn't call me

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<v Speaker 1>like tomorrow, go man, Smokey passed away cold people to

1:25:44.360 --> 1:25:49.360
<v Speaker 1>be driving Smokey in Montana. Yeah. If not, I'll be yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We'll have to figure out what you're

1:25:51.640 --> 1:25:54.559
<v Speaker 1>gonna be doing. I'll be on one mountain filming you

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<v Speaker 1>on the other Mountain. Yeah me and Isy yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well all right guys, that's that will That will conclude this.

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