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Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Hey fam Today on the bright side, it's Friday.

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Speaker 1: You know what that means. We're popping off and dishing

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Speaker 1: on all the biggest pop culture moments of the week,

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Speaker 1: and today it's all about beauty and style because joining

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Speaker 1: us today is People Magazine's beauty and style director Andrea Labenthal.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, June twenty eighth.

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Speaker 2: I'm Simone Boyce, I'm Danielle Robe and this is the

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Speaker 2: bright Side from Hello Sunshine.

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Speaker 1: Danielle, Happy Friday.

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Speaker 2: We made it Happy Friday. What a great week. I'm

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Speaker 2: ready for the weekend, Simon, how about you?

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Speaker 1: It was a beautiful week, so ready for the weekend,

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Speaker 1: and I've got the perfect way to usher it in.

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Speaker 1: We are going to pop off on all the week's

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Speaker 1: beauty and style trends today. We're talking about a celebrities

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Speaker 1: hack for plumping your lips, the natural way, the sunburned

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Speaker 1: makeup trend that's taking over the internet, that one needs

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Speaker 1: some explanation, and the bold approach to summer handbags hint

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Speaker 1: hint might make you hungry.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but before we talk trends, we want to spotlight

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Speaker 2: our favorite moment of the week. Brought to you by

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Speaker 2: our friends at BMW.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the spotlight of the week is going to a

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Speaker 1: woman who is giving us eternal sunshine. We want to

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Speaker 1: give a big birthday shout out to miss Ariana Grande.

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Speaker 2: Ooh more life. She turned thirty one on Wednesday, and

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Speaker 2: to celebrate, she gave us a little throwback video on

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Speaker 2: Instagram of her singing as a kid. So in this

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Speaker 2: really adorable video, she must be like two or three

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Speaker 2: years old, and she's prancing around in what looks like

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Speaker 2: it could be the entrance to her house, and she's

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Speaker 2: showing off that signature Ariana belting. She's even doing the

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Speaker 2: hand jive movement from Grease.

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Speaker 1: This video is so cute. If you haven't seen it,

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Speaker 1: you got to go check it out. And a lot

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Speaker 1: of other celebrities are joining in the celebration of this

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Speaker 1: viral moment too. Our own Reese Witherspoon commented, oh yes,

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Speaker 1: please never lose this energy, and Ariana Grande's costar from

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Speaker 1: the upcoming Wicked film, Cynthia Revo, said, happy birthday, my

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Speaker 1: sweet sister. I love their dynamic total friendship goals between

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Speaker 1: Cynthia and Ariana.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I totally agree. She's getting ready for the release

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Speaker 2: of the brand new Wicked movie out this fall, and

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Speaker 2: Ari has had quite the year. She released new music

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Speaker 2: and some really dope music videos to go along with it.

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Speaker 2: Her teens in her twenties are full of major milestones.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what Ari does in her thirties.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Danielle, your mom did tell us that you

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Speaker 1: are an unclaimed pop star. I mean she confirmed this

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Speaker 1: on the show when we talked to her on Mother's Day.

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Speaker 1: So where are your singing videos? Huh? Where are they?

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Speaker 2: First of all, her word was unclaimed. My word has failed.

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Speaker 2: Those videos are buried deep in the basement. They will

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Speaker 2: never see the light of day. You're just gonna have

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Speaker 2: to keep watching Ariana's videos instead. They are much better.

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Speaker 2: So happy birthday, Ari.

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Speaker 1: All right, y'all, it's time to pop off officially, so

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Speaker 1: let's bring in Andrea Lavinhal. She's the beauty and style

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Speaker 1: director at People Magazine, a suburban mom of two, and

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Speaker 1: an overall good time girlye. Andrea, Welcome to the bright Side.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Andrea, Thank you for having me so, Andrea, you

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Speaker 1: have been at People for over a decade.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: You do interviews, you write and edit stories, you wear

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Speaker 1: many hats. You even test beauty products as well. I

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Speaker 1: do so in your time at people, is there a

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Speaker 1: trend that has completely captured you, that has gotten you

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Speaker 1: in a choke hold, or maybe one that you're happy

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Speaker 1: to see go?

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Speaker 3: Oh god.

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Speaker 4: I feel like there's so many celebrity beauty trends that

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Speaker 4: like come and go, especially ones we see on TikTok.

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Speaker 4: Right now, we can talk about some trends I'm loving.

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Speaker 4: I'm loving that everybody's wearing linen vest sets. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if you guys have been seeing this. We just

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Speaker 4: covered it in the magazine, and I said, it kind

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Speaker 4: of makes me feel like everyone has like a business

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Speaker 4: meeting on a yacht. It's that like I have some

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Speaker 4: paperwork to sign, but it's in the Amalfi Coast, and

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 2: I like that too. Would you wear one?

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Speaker 4: I wore one the other day in front of all

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Speaker 4: my Greenwich mom friends and I was like, does anyone

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Speaker 4: have any paperwork for me to sign? I'll sit on

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Speaker 1: Just like.

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Speaker 3: But it's a very wearable trend.

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Speaker 4: So I like things when I see celebrities wearing things

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Speaker 4: that like real people can and should wear, because that's

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Speaker 1: As the beauty and style director at People Magazine, I

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Speaker 1: imagine you do have to keep an eye out for accessibility,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, and relatability, you know, because you want to

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Speaker 1: keep your audience in mind. So what is the people

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Speaker 1: formula to identifying a trend or trend setters?

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Speaker 4: So a celebrity trend, I say it comes in threes,

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Speaker 4: like deaths, right, Like if three celebrities cut bangs, we

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Speaker 4: have a trend on our heads. Oh if three celebrities

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Speaker 4: wear a striped button down shirt, which recently happened, we

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Speaker 4: have a trend, you know, like we the season it's happening.

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Speaker 4: But then again, like you said, like what is the

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Speaker 4: trend for our reader? So I just use myself Basically,

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Speaker 4: I feel like I am the reader. My friends people

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Speaker 4: I know, would I tell them to wear that? If

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Speaker 4: I saw them at back to school night wearing that?

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Speaker 4: Would I think they've lost their minds? Or would it

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Speaker 4: be like she looks great? You know, it's it's something

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Speaker 4: that like we have to wear in our real lives

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Speaker 2: Do trends start with the celebrity or is it if

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Speaker 2: we backtrack a little bit, is it their stylist, or

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Speaker 2: is it even one step further the designers who send

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Speaker 2: things down the runway the season before. I can't ever

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Speaker 2: pinpoint who starts these things.

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Speaker 3: That's a really good question.

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Speaker 4: I would say, I'm always going to just invoke double

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Speaker 4: Warus Prada, the Cerulean blue speech of it all. I

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Speaker 4: do think it starts mostly with the designers, because those

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Speaker 4: are the clothes that we see celebrities wear before the

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Speaker 4: rest of us have any access to them. But then

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Speaker 4: to your point, it's how the stylists style them and

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Speaker 4: who they're putting them on that matters. So you know

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Speaker 4: when you saw that Valentino saturated Valentino pink happen, that

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Speaker 4: started on the runway and then you saw like Anne

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Speaker 4: Hathaway and a million other celebrities wearing it, and then

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Speaker 4: we all were wearing pink.

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Speaker 3: For a while.

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Speaker 2: Well, we think that you are so funny. We were

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Speaker 2: looking at your Instagram and you do this series called

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Speaker 2: Supermarket Conversations, So you basically start with something like Chris

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Speaker 2: at Trader Joe's. It feels like some are out there,

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Speaker 2: and then you'll launch into this mini op ed and

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Speaker 2: it's so hilarious. What was the inspiration behind these.

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Speaker 4: I think that it was during COVID that I posted

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Speaker 4: the first version of this. I think I was like

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Speaker 4: kind of losing my mind. There wasn't a lot of

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Speaker 4: interpersonal chitchat right, Like you were missing that day to

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Speaker 4: day chitchat. And as someone who loves to talk and

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Speaker 4: talks two people and then immediately regrets what I said,

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Speaker 4: like I didn't have that. So when you could go

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Speaker 4: so desperate for small talk. In my I would start

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Speaker 4: saying things, but then in my head, I'd also have

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Speaker 4: all these things going. And I always joke that my

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Speaker 4: Instagram's like a diary. I'm like begging everyone to read,

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Speaker 4: as opposed to putting a on it and being like

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Speaker 4: keep out. And then people would be like, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: this is like how I think. Like so many people

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Speaker 4: are like I think, like this weird stream of consciousness

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Speaker 4: and some of those things I do say.

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Speaker 3: Summer in my.

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Speaker 2: Head, Andrea, tell us what's on your radar right now.

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Speaker 4: Other than linen vest sets, which become my whole personality

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Speaker 4: this summer exactly.

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Speaker 2: Well, at least through this week. Trends cycle through very

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Speaker 4: They do, and I'm like worried that come fall, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to have this like closet of like breezy linen

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Speaker 4: sets that never see the light of day again. I also,

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Speaker 4: you know, I didn't mean to start something, but I

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Speaker 4: think I did when I think I posted on Instagram

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Speaker 4: that I'm concerned about the future of mesh flats. They

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Speaker 4: have like taken over the feet of women across the country.

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Speaker 4: Where you guys stand on this, please as too like

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Speaker 4: plugged in very like on trend women, Where do you stand?

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Speaker 2: I am not a trends person usually, like I like

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Speaker 2: stuff that kind of withstands moments in time. I like

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Speaker 2: the mesh flats. I do almost bought a pair. I

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Speaker 2: really really like them. I think they're cool looking. I

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Speaker 2: just am not usually a flat girl because I'm five

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Speaker 1: What I like about this new era of mesh flats

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Speaker 1: is that it feels like an elevated rebirth of the

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Speaker 1: mesh flats that I grew up with as a millennial,

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Speaker 1: which were the ones that you bought at the beauty store. Yes,

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Speaker 1: were you know, very lightweight, very cheaply made, and they

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Speaker 1: were like foush. They were like four bucks. You could

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Speaker 4: but now.

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Speaker 1: You know we've got options. They are beautiful braided flats.

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Speaker 1: I have my eye on this pair of frey to

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Speaker 1: Salvador flats. They're really cute.

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Speaker 2: Who is not the first time that Simone has brought

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Speaker 2: really want them.

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Speaker 1: I need to just get them. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting for, but yeah, I'm here for it. I'm

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Speaker 1: here for the new version of the mesh flat.

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Speaker 4: So I you know, they came out like last year

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Speaker 4: you saw the high Fashion the Row. They were alaya

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Speaker 4: like you were seeing these very expensive versions of sheer shoes,

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Speaker 4: and then every brand started like producing them, and this

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Speaker 3: But I was like, I'm worried about their future.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that they have lung jevity, and I'm

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Speaker 4: worried that again comes September, We're going to look back

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Speaker 4: on our mesh flat moment and really be concerned. Like, look,

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Speaker 4: back at trends, you were like handkerchief tops and low

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Speaker 4: rise gens, but even sooner like this one has like

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Speaker 4: a three month window right now.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, even though I feel like we started, I'm just

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Speaker 2: going to reiterate that we are going to pop off today.

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Speaker 2: And so we're talking summer fashion trends, and every summer

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Speaker 2: it seems like there's something specific. I remember last summer

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Speaker 2: we saw the rise in baggy clothes, and I remember

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Speaker 2: it because I loved it. I love baggy clothes, which

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Speaker 2: is probably how I don't dress for men. But this

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Speaker 2: year we're seeing high wasted pants and cottage core and

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Speaker 2: making news about summer fashion this week is Chrissy Teagan,

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Speaker 2: who I think it's actually Chrissy Tigan, but it's forever

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Speaker 2: Chrissy Tegan in my mind.

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Speaker 1: I can.

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Speaker 2: She told People magazine that at thirty eight years old,

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Speaker 2: she's focused on dressing in a way that matches her maturity,

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Speaker 2: and she says, quote keeping things chic. But here's what's

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Speaker 1: People's Andrea Labenthal. Okay, Danielle, I think our next fashion

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Speaker 1: Midwestern self has said that Ketchup can go with just

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Speaker 1: Are we familiar with condiment cotur.

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Speaker 2: Ladies, I'm not tell me about this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me educate you. So, Hines Ketchup is partnering

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Speaker 1: time for the New York summer barbecue season. So let

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Speaker 1: me paint a picture for you. This isn't just red clothing.

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Speaker 1: These are actual clothing items with the Hines logo on it.

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Speaker 1: The collection includes purses that look exactly like those white

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Speaker 1: actually turn this aesthetic into a purse and wear it

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Speaker 1: It's got the tote, We've got the clutch, We've got

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Speaker 1: like the other clutch. We have options. There's a white

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Speaker 1: tote with the Hindz logo complete with tear here ketchup

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Speaker 1: packet details. Andrea, what do we think? Are we about

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Speaker 4: So the Katesby team pitched this to me h for coverage,

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Speaker 4: you're like real fake I don't know, but no, it's

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Speaker 4: coming from a very anti ketchup standpoint, and that is

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Speaker 4: an unpopular opinion. I have been accused of being a

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Speaker 4: like the smell, I don't like the taste. I don't

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Speaker 4: forward pitch like this, this is a tough one for

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Speaker 4: me to put on my journalist a objective hat, right,

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Speaker 1: I think maybe the larger question here is, Danielle, how

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Speaker 2: A hard no, it's not my style. I'm like, I

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Speaker 4: I actually went into TikTok to check out some gals

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Speaker 4: who had purchased Yes, I love including you know, the

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Speaker 4: cross body guys. With the aforementioned swiggle of ketchup. It's

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Speaker 4: you know, a casual tote here. The tote bag is

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Speaker 4: three seventy. The girls who have purchased this on TikTok

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Speaker 4: There are super fans among us, whether they are Kate

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, there's a bookstore in New York called

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Speaker 2: food and Hathaway, she's a little bit of a hacker.

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Speaker 2: Do you guys remember a few years ago when she

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Speaker 2: did that thing with the cupcake on the Kelly Clarkson Show.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, it was genius.

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Speaker 2: She changed the way I eat cupcakes. She basically cut

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Speaker 2: Now she's giving us another hack, and I want us

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Speaker 2: much as this cupcake one. It's reminiscent of when people

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Speaker 2: put Snapple bottles like their lips and Snapple bottles to

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Speaker 4: It's as if she doesn't know that like lip plumpers

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Speaker 4: like the Bridger Tin downtin Abbey era and like all

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Speaker 4: we have is a hairpin, or we're in prison.

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Speaker 1: We love a Victorian beauty experiment. I actually like that. She's,

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Speaker 1: you know, presenting another option to injectables because maybe they're

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Speaker 3: That's a good point.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: So we're all poking. Okay, okay, So we're poking to

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Speaker 4: stimulate blood flow.

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Speaker 1: So here's what you do. You grab your hair pin

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Speaker 1: and you take the pointy side and you just kind

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Speaker 3: I just hope I don't poke the filler out of

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Speaker 2: It's just a tiny I have to tell you. This

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Speaker 1: You know, I have a great idea. We could just

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Speaker 1: buy a lip plumping lip gloss.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. This feels very prison Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna stick with her cupcake hac over

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Speaker 2: this one. This one's not for me.

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Speaker 3: I vote no.

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Speaker 4: How about you, guys, I think you could get a

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Speaker 4: better If you want something that's like a Households mcg

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Speaker 4: to stimulate the blood flow to your lips.

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Speaker 2: That's a way better idea. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've seen the first generation of lip plumpers,

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Speaker 1: Speaking of medieval, presentations of the body. I've got another

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Speaker 1: trend that we need to discuss. So this is another

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Speaker 1: People pop off. Andrea. People Magazine says more celebrities have

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Speaker 1: been leaning towards going natural with body hair and skipping

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Speaker 1: on grooming, and this is actually something that I've heard

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Speaker 1: about for a little while. Now Here are some of

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Speaker 1: the celebrities who are calling this a vibe. Emma Corn,

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Speaker 1: who played the young Princess Diana from The Crown. She

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Speaker 1: says she's showing off her grown out arm hair on

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Speaker 1: the cover of the June July issue of Harper's Bizarre Models.

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Speaker 1: Ashley Graham, Emily Radikowski, and musicians Madonna and Halsey were

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Speaker 1: also noted as being fans of letting it all grow

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Speaker 1: out in the past. So I think that this is

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Speaker 1: definitely a rejection of some of the beauty standards that

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Speaker 1: women have been held to. You know, we are expected

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Speaker 1: to always be perfectly groomed, perfectly manicured, like naked mole rats,

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Speaker 1: not have any hair on our bodies at all, And

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Speaker 1: these women are saying, you know what, I'm tired of

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Speaker 1: doing that and I'm gonna let it grow out. I

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Speaker 1: support it. I think that everybody's got to do what

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Speaker 1: you want to do. It makes you feel good. I

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Speaker 1: will say that as a mom who doesn't always have

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Speaker 1: a lot of time to do in everything, shower, sometimes

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Speaker 1: the leg hair it gets a little long. Okay, you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes the body hair gets a little long, because that's

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Speaker 1: just not the most important thing in my life. You know,

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Speaker 1: I have other priorities.

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Speaker 2: Leg hair is different from armpit hair, though, or like

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Speaker 2: I suffer from a mustache and like, I'm not letting

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Speaker 2: that grow. I've seen some women who do, like, and

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Speaker 2: you are totally right to each their own because part

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Speaker 2: of beauty and trends. You know, we're joking about all this,

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Speaker 2: but at the core of it is really that they

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Speaker 2: make you feel good and are an expression of who

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Speaker 2: you are. And so if growing out your body hair

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Speaker 2: is an expression of you, then all the power to you.

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Speaker 2: But it is not for me. I am a naked

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Speaker 2: mole rat kind of girly.

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Speaker 3: I think that.

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Speaker 4: It's great that you like the mustache of it all. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think that that's very brave to share names. You

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Speaker 4: want to say like none of us are hairless, or

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Speaker 4: as you get older, I will tell you as.

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Speaker 3: Somebody a little bit older than you.

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Speaker 4: You will find hair in places that you didn't know

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Speaker 4: it was possible, like water in a desert.

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Speaker 3: Who knew?

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Speaker 2: Is it the random chin hair for you?

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Speaker 1: Because chin?

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Speaker 3: Forget it?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I tell everyone keep a tweezer in your

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Speaker 4: car because there is no better light than the pickup

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Speaker 4: line light. And if you see another mom picking her

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Speaker 4: chin hair, you wave to her and you salute her

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Speaker 4: for her work. Okay, you never feel embarrassed. You empower

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Speaker 4: each other to get that hair while you can. But

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Speaker 4: body hair under arm legs wherever you want it to grow, sure,

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Speaker 4: personal choice, Let it grow whatever you want to do.

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Speaker 1: Whenever we start to question these universally held beauty standards,

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Speaker 1: I always think it's interesting to go back in time

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Speaker 1: a little bit and look through the history and see

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Speaker 1: when they really became widely accepted. So I thought this

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Speaker 1: was interesting. Back in the nineteen hundreds, most women didn't

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Speaker 1: really care about having body hair under their armpits or

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Speaker 1: on their legs. But then advertisers really started to make

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Speaker 1: a big deal out of it and started to draw

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Speaker 1: attention to hair in our armpits in about nineteen fifteen,

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Speaker 1: and then by the nineteen fifties, having clean shaven legs

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Speaker 1: became very normal and mainstream. So you know, everybody adopts

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Speaker 1: these standards for different reasons. But I always think it's

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Speaker 1: interesting to figure out, Okay, why are we doing this?

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Speaker 1: Was there a big marketing push behind this? Was there

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Speaker 1: big hair removal behind this?

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Speaker 2: So I got laser hair removal because of capitalism, that's

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Speaker 2: what you're telling me.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Because some men in a boardroom in the nineteen

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Speaker 4: fifties it was like, you know what, what can we

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Speaker 4: get women to spend money on?

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Speaker 3: Next?

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Speaker 4: Right, Like, let's tell them they're hideous, willed debeasts and

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Speaker 4: see if we can get them to remove nearly all

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Speaker 4: their body hair. And as somebody who moved to New

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Speaker 4: York City at the height of the Brazilian bikini wax

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Speaker 4: and completely bear and J's sisters and all of that,

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Speaker 4: Like that.

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Speaker 3: Was the vibe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when I tell you I've been towards

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Speaker 4: some stuff in places I don't think you should.

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Speaker 2: Andrea, we are having so much fun with you, but

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Speaker 2: we need to take a quick break. Stick with us,

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Speaker 2: and we're back to pop an off with Andrea Labenthal. Okay,

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Speaker 2: last one for everybody. There's this new makeup trend surging

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Speaker 2: across TikTok. It's called this sunburn makeup trend. So basically,

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Speaker 2: you use exaggerated highlights around your eyes and heavier blush

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Speaker 2: on your cheeks, so it gives the impression that you've

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Speaker 2: been out in the sun. But some of the extreme

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Speaker 2: versions look like you have that raccoon I when you

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Speaker 2: have your sunglasses on and you get a little burned.

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Speaker 2: I also call it like the skiing I you know,

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Speaker 2: like your goggle tan. But the more subtle version of

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Speaker 2: this I actually think is really cute. It just gives

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Speaker 2: your cheeks that extra glow. I've seen celebs like Sabrina

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Speaker 2: Carpenter get on board with this. Have you tried this?

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Speaker 4: So I was very intrigued, and I get sent a

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Speaker 4: ton of beauty products because it's my job to test them.

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Speaker 4: So I grabbed the appropriately named E Cosmetics sun Blush.

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Speaker 3: It's new.

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Speaker 4: I got in there, I went like double down way

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Speaker 4: more than I would put and I have to say,

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Speaker 4: I think it looks really cute. It made it reminded

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Speaker 4: me like blush makes you look good, like healthy, you know,

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Speaker 4: brings some brightness and extra blush never a bad thing.

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Speaker 3: Now when you start to go into like.

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Speaker 4: I fell asleep, you know, in the sun at the

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Speaker 4: beach territory, it's not as.

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Speaker 3: Cute, but like a little bit of a flush.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I like it. This is so funny

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Speaker 1: to me because everything that's old is new again for me.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the beauty trends that I grew

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Speaker 1: up seeing in magazines. I feel like the Victoria's Secret

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Speaker 1: models of the nineties really popular as this look like

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Speaker 1: Giselle Boonchin, Tyra Banks. I mean, they all were doing

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Speaker 1: those editorials on the beach where their skin was super

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Speaker 1: glowy and they had a lot of blush under their eyes.

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Speaker 1: And I think the trick is you have to continue

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Speaker 1: it over the bridge of the nose, so it's almost

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Speaker 1: like you're doing a stripe on the yes from temple

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Speaker 1: to temple. There's there's this other trend too right now

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Speaker 1: in terms of blush called sunset blush, and it's where

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Speaker 1: you create a gradient effect by blending two different shades

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Speaker 1: of blush, like a peach and a pink, so that

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Speaker 1: you get this ombre as you swipe the blush up

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Speaker 1: on your face.

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Speaker 2: It's true artistry, guys. This is like painters using colors.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of work for me. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but I do like the first one I like. I

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Speaker 2: agree with Andrew. I feel like it just gives you.

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Speaker 2: She's still nobody comes still blushing. She's been putting on

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Speaker 2: blush for the last two minutes, so you obviously like it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I was trying to think, like, with all this blush,

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Speaker 4: who do I look like? And then Simone said Giselle

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Speaker 4: and I was like, exactly, yes, now I look like her?

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Speaker 4: But I do I have to say I'm inspired. I

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Speaker 4: would like do this more often. It's a reminder to

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Speaker 4: put on more blush when it's out, just a bit more,

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Speaker 4: just a bit, however you look at it, sunburn blush

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Speaker 4: is better than a sunburn.

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Speaker 1: So I think this is a healthier trend for us

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Speaker 1: to be aiming for. I will say, in terms of

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Speaker 1: creating a glowy summer face, I got my makeup done

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Speaker 1: for an event the other day with my friend Ray Dawn,

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Speaker 1: who's been doing my makeup for years, and she showed

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Speaker 1: me this hack that changed the game for me. She

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Speaker 1: put on liquid highlighter underneath the foundation and then put

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Speaker 1: the foundation on top contour everything, but it gave me

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Speaker 1: this subtle all overglow. I don't know, maybe every one's

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Speaker 1: been doing this for a while, but I just put

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Speaker 1: two and two together and I really like the way

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Speaker 1: that it looked.

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Speaker 3: That is what we call in the biz, a lit

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Speaker 3: from within glow.

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Speaker 1: Thank you and wonderful. There's a name for it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, every again thanks to the TikTok and our

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Speaker 4: appetite for trends. Next week it's going to be put

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Speaker 4: the illuminator over, under, inside, outside, all around.

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Speaker 3: Dad stands up.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was called underpainting because Mary Phillips really

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Speaker 2: made that popular.

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Speaker 4: Underpainting has to do also with like doing your contour

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Speaker 4: and your concealer underneath your foundation.

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Speaker 3: I have never been able to master that. I blame

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Speaker 3: it on my children.

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Speaker 4: You need time, you need patients, you need to be alone,

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Speaker 4: and as Simone knows, it's not happening.

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Speaker 1: I need the ten minute beauty trend TikTok. Send me

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Speaker 1: your ten minute beauty tips, because that's all I have. Yeah, Andrea,

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Speaker 1: I just had an idea. We did a segment on

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Speaker 1: our favorite drugstore beauty proput okay quick before we go,

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Speaker 1: could you share what your favorites are because maybe Danielle

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Speaker 1: and I need to add those to her shopping cart. Okay.

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Speaker 4: Number one and the most boring but longest standing is

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Speaker 4: Dove body wash. I ride or die for Dove body Wash.

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Speaker 4: Nothing smells better, nothing leaves my skin softer. Drugstore Mescara

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Speaker 4: all the way. If I'm buying with my own money,

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Speaker 4: I'm buying any Loreal Paris any Maybelein Mescara. I'm not

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Speaker 4: spending money on a big, expensive, fancish, fancy Mescara. Maybelein

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Speaker 4: Age Rewinds Concealer one of the best I've ever used.

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Speaker 4: It has this like little foam spongy applicator. I don't

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Speaker 4: know what it is. It's like very creamy, it's easy

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Speaker 4: to blend. I've been using it for years. It's one

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Speaker 4: of my absolute faves. So I think that's that's most

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Speaker 4: of it. But I think drugstore beauty products are like

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Speaker 4: just as good sometimes if not better than the really

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Speaker 4: expensive stuff.

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Speaker 2: Andrea, thanks for popping off with us today. This was

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Speaker 2: so much fun. Thank you guys.

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Speaker 4: And really, I'm so glad that I discovered this blush

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Speaker 4: trend because the Giselle and me really needed it.

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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I agree, I think you're going to

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Speaker 2: be blushing for the next few hours.

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Speaker 1: I think I do.

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Speaker 2: Andrea Laventhal is the beauty and style director at People Magazine.

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Speaker 2: You can find her at Andy LAVs on Instagram. That's

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Speaker 1: Natalie Tulluk and Maureen Polo are the executive producers for

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Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine.

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Speaker 2: Julia Weaver is the supervising producer, and Ali Perry is

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Speaker 2: the executive producer for iHeart Podcasts. Tim Palazzola is our showrunner.

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Speaker 2: This week's episodes were recorded by Graham Gibson, Carl Catel,

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Speaker 2: Jessica Crinchitch Bahied Fraser.

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Speaker 1: Our theme song is by Anna Stump and Hamilton.

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Speaker 2: Lighthauser special thanks to Connell Byrne and Will Pearson.

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Speaker 1: I'm Simone Boyce. You can find me at Simone Voice

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Speaker 1: on Instagram and TikTok.

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Speaker 1: Y see you Monday. Keep looking on the bright side, y'all.