1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: Joshua P. 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: Warn the thoughts and opinions expressed by the host our 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: thoughts and opinions only, and do not necessarily reflect those 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: or their sponsors and associates. You are encouraged to do 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: the proper amount of research yourself, depending on the subject 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: matter and your needs. You get ready to be amazed 10 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: by the wizard of Weird Strange with Joshua Warren. 11 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: I am JOSHUAE Warren, and each week on this show, 12 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news exercises, 13 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a 14 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: lot more on this edition of the show Weird Adventures 15 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: with see Eric Scott. I have known producer see Eric 16 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: Scott for twenty two years and we have worked on 17 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: so many paranormal TV shows and movies that I can't 18 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: even name them all. Well, recently he visited me here 19 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas and we sat down for a face 20 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: to face conversation. You are going to hear that conversation soon. 21 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: But first, right up front, I want to tell you 22 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: about a weird experience I had while Eric was here 23 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: in town. All right, listen to this, I, your humble host, 24 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: was recently kicked out. That's right, kicked out of a 25 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: celebrity event here in Las Vegas. Can you believe that? 26 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: You know what a nice, courteous, respectful man I am, 27 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: and yet I was kicked out. So before I tell 28 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: you this story, let me ask you to guess who 29 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: that celebrity might be. 30 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: Hmm. 31 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: I know that's a hard one, and you should realize 32 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't actually the celebrity that demanded I be removed. 33 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: It was a couple of goombas, goons, henchmen. And this 34 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: story actually has a twist ending, but it did. It 35 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: ticked me off for a few days and you'll see why. 36 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: Oh okay, are you ready? Here's what happened recently. Laren 37 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: and I were hanging out on a Friday night with 38 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: Eric in a nice casino on the outskirts of Vegas, 39 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: and when we got there earlier in the night, we 40 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: had seen these generic nondescript signs here and there saying 41 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: filming in progress. But I saw no actual indications of 42 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: any filming, and so we just sort of ignored the 43 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: whole thing. We had a full night of gambling, and 44 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: then we went to a restaurant to get some food 45 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: to go. At that point, it was after one in 46 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: the morning, and as we were actually walking out of 47 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: the casino on our way to leave with our to 48 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: go food in the bags, this random young man just 49 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: ran up to us, excited as heck. This guy was 50 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: probably in his twenties, he had a goateee, and he 51 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: just showed us his phone and exclaimed to us, we 52 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: are just completely complete strangers. He said, look, I just 53 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: got a picture with Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan and Dana 54 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: White are over in the high Limit section right now, 55 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: and this guy was flipping out like he'd met Santa Claus. Now. 56 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: The high Limit section was right there next to us, 57 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: and I said, Joe Rogan is in there, and he said, yeah, yeah, 58 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: he's taking pictures with everybody now. If you don't know, 59 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan has one of the most popular podcasts in 60 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: the world, and he is a controversial figure. A lot 61 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: of people don't agree with his views, but I've always 62 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: enjoyed his interviews, and I think he's a person who 63 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: stands up for free speech because he has maintained his 64 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: independence even when a lot of the legacy mainstream media 65 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: has tried to censor him. So whether or not I 66 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: agree with everything he says, I admire that he is 67 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: a champion for free speech. And Dana White is the 68 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: man in charge of the UFC the Ultimate Fighting Championship. 69 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: Now that's that's cool, But I'm personally, I'm just really 70 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: not much of a UFC guy. So I told Lauren 71 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: and Eric, well, if Joe Rogan's right in there, I'd 72 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: like to pop in to the High Limits area and 73 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: just say hello to Joe Rogan. And neither Lauren or 74 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: Eric wanted to go, so they held my food and 75 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: I said, okay, I'll be back in just a little bit. 76 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: So I walked into the High Limits area and there 77 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: was a room toward the back that had two men 78 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: in suits standing at either side like they might be 79 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: guards possibly, And I figured Joe Rogan might be in 80 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: that back room, and so if they didn't want me there, 81 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: these guys in suits would just stop me and tell 82 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: me they didn't want me. But but they just smiled. 83 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: So you know, I just walked right in, and sure 84 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: enough there was Joe Rogan and Dana White standing in 85 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: front of a card table watching a game with a 86 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: small crowd around them. So it was pretty cool right 87 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: off the bat to see them in the flesh. They 88 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: looked exactly like they do on TV, even though I 89 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: must say they're quite a bit shorter than me. And 90 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: there there was one guy I saw in the corner 91 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: who was filming stuff, but that was it. I mean, 92 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: this did not look at all like an actual TV 93 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: set or anything. Goodness knows. I've been on a zillion 94 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: TV sets, and it just looked to me like they 95 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: had possibly some bets down and they were gambling. I 96 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: don't know what exactly was going on, so I just 97 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: stood there and watched for a few minutes. It really 98 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: didn't look like much was going on at all. Frankly, 99 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: there were all these intimidating looking men in dark suits 100 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: standing around, but I thought maybe they were just like 101 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: casino security or something, since I presumed if Joe Rogan 102 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: and Dana White were there, maybe they were betting, you know, 103 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: some big stakes. Perhaps I don't know. Nobody's said anything. 104 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: There was nothing to indicate at all what was going on. 105 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: So at one point Joe Rogan didn't have too many 106 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: folks around him, and he was just kind of looking 107 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: at the table. So I figured i'd say hello, and 108 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: I said, mister Rogan, I'm Joshua Warren and I enjoy 109 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: your podcast and I want to thank you for standing 110 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: up for free speech. And he shook my hand and 111 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: said thank you, and you know, he was cordial, and 112 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: that was it. And so, you know, then some other 113 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: people came up and started talking to him. And I 114 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: continued watching this whole scenario because again, it didn't look 115 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: like that there was like like a TV shoot going on, 116 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: and I was kind of curious as to what was happening, 117 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: and he was just chatting with people, kind of knocking around. 118 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: It didn't look to me like he was working. So 119 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: at some point Dana White walked to the other side 120 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: of the room and most of the people followed Dana White. 121 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: So now there were even less people around Joe Rogan. Well, 122 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: of course, I had been on my way out the 123 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: door to begin with, you know, heading out with with 124 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: Lauren and Eric, when I realized that Joe Rogan was 125 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: even there, and I was thinking about, like, well, Lauren 126 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: and Eric are waiting for me outside, like, what's cool? 127 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: What's he doing in there? Come on, Joshua. So, I mean, 128 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: I was kind of in a hurry and I needed 129 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: to run, but you know, I figured I would just 130 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: ask Joe Rogan one more question, actually just a question. 131 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: I had to ask him anything, but I just figured 132 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: i'd ask him a question before I left. I mean, 133 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: he was standing right there in front of me, a 134 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: real human being, just like any other normal human being 135 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: in a casino. And I said to him, quote, I 136 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: host a podcast for Coast to Coast AM. Would you 137 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: be interested in being interviewed? End quote? And as soon 138 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: as I said I work for Coast to Coast AM, 139 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: a guy in a dark suit began stepping between me 140 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: and Joe Rogan and he said something smart You're like, 141 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: that's it, and Rogan said no. And as soon as 142 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: Rogan said no, another man in a suit stepped between 143 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: me and Rogan, and the men in suits told me 144 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: to leave and showed me the door. And even though 145 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan did not ask me to leave, he watched 146 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: this happen and he did not say a word about it. 147 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: And I mean, you know, once he said no. I 148 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: would have just said okay, I understand, thank you, and 149 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: that would have been the end of it. They didn't 150 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: have to kick me out of the room. Though to 151 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: say that was an overreaction is an understatement. So apparently 152 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: saying I was with the media was a big no no. 153 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: I guess. 154 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: I mean. 155 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: That's all I can figure is you know that that's 156 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: what happened. And frankly, you could even argue whether or 157 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: not it was legal for them to kick me out 158 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: of the room. For one thing, I don't know who 159 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: these people were. They did not identify themselves as casino employees. 160 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: And there was a law in Nevada that says that 161 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: if there is an area where gambling is taking place, 162 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: you must make it equally available to all. That law 163 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: exists because if you have an area with the machine 164 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: and you say, hey, that's Joshua's machine, only Joshua gets 165 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: to play it, well, then guess who's gonna eventually hit 166 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: the jackpot one day? Joshua is all right, So that 167 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: is a law on the books. But then there are 168 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: also laws saying like casinos can ban you from the 169 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: property if they don't like this or that. But again, 170 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: I don't know who these people were. These fellas never 171 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: even identified themselves. I had no idea who they were, 172 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: but regardless, I was ready to leave anyway, And it 173 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: really wasn't that big of a deal to me. Like 174 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: you say, all I did was ask another human being 175 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: standing next to me whether or not he would be 176 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: interested in being interviewed on my show, and this is 177 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: the reaction I got from those around him. So of course, 178 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: without hesitation, I left that area. I even gambled a 179 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: little bit on the other section of the high limits 180 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: room with no problem, and then I emerged to tell 181 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: Lauren and Eric, well, I met Joke Rogan. I shook 182 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: his hand. We had a friendly exchange. But when I 183 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,359 Speaker 1: ask if he would consider being interviewed on my podcast, 184 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: the guys in there kick me out. Lauren said, I'm 185 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: so glad I didn't go in there. I would have 186 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: been horrified. And I said, well, look, I'm not happy. 187 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: You know, I'm miffed. That was uncalled for, and honestly 188 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: it left a bad taste in my mouth. But when 189 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: we come back from this break, there is a twist 190 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: ending to this story. I just can't go anywhere and 191 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: have a normal life. Weird things just follow me wherever 192 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: I go. Well, you know what, I am always coming 193 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: up with new and interesting offers and products and freebies 194 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: I give away. And sometimes I say you have a week, 195 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: you know you have seven days to get this, and 196 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: then seven days goes by and people will say, oh, 197 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: I missed and I missed it. Please can you make 198 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: an exception? Do give me one? Do one for me? 199 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: And I can't things sell out project, I move on 200 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: with other projects. So if you want to stay updated 201 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: immediately when I have something to offer and you don't 202 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: want to miss it, go to Joshua P. 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I am your host, 222 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your 223 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: wormhole brain from my studio in sen City, Las Vegas, Nevada, 224 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: where every day is golden and every night is silver 225 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: Adia tat dozume. So so we're, you know, we're we're 226 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: walking out of the casino, of course, and I looked 227 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: back and I thought, you know, I don't hold it 228 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: against Joe Rogan since he did not personally kick me out, 229 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: but I do think if it had been the other 230 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: way around, if I had been in his position, I 231 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: would have told these guys not a okay, you don't 232 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: have to throw him out. But anyway, you know, I 233 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: didn't know. I didn't know the big picture, I didn't 234 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: even know what the heck was going on, and so 235 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, I left pretty confused and kind of ticked off. 236 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: So now here, I guess, is the twist ending. Perhaps, 237 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: So this whole thing that I just told you about 238 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: happened on a Friday night. Technically it was like a 239 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: Saturday morning, because this is like, you know, almost two 240 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, Saturday morning. So the following Sunday 241 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: I checked the news and found out that that very 242 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: next day after my experience that Saturday, Donald Trump had 243 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: popped up as a surprise at UFC to ninety. That's 244 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: the big fighting event right down the road in Las Vegas, 245 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: and Donald Trump was with Dana White and Joe Rogan 246 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: and all of these other celebs were there. And then 247 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: I realized, oh, there was a very good chance that 248 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: the guys who kicked me out of the room the 249 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: night before were Secret Service agents because they were preparing 250 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: for this big Trump event hours away that was being 251 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: kept a secret with these two guys that I was with, 252 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan and Dana White, and for all I know, 253 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: even Donald Trump may have been nearby. And if I 254 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: had known that Joe Rogan was in that room as 255 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: part of a political event. Perhaps I would have never 256 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: entered because throughout my life, whenever I have come into 257 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: contact with the Secret Service and the circle of individuals 258 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: who surround presidential figures, regardless of the party, it's always 259 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: dark and negative. There's like this aggressive cloud and paranoia, 260 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: and I just want no part of it. So I 261 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: guess the bottom line is that I guess you again. 262 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: To recap, I was already ready to leave. I was 263 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: walking out the door. An excited stranger ran up and said, Hey, 264 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan's in there. Look he's meeting people and taking pics. 265 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: So I went in there and ended up having this 266 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: experience where I was kicked out? Why did that happen 267 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: to me? 268 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: You know? 269 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: What was what was I supposed to learn from that? 270 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: I could have just gone home and been none the wiser. 271 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: But why did the universe want me to experience that 272 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: odd thing? 273 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 3: I do not know. 274 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: Maybe it will make more sense at some point, and 275 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: it'll become something positive at some point, but for now, 276 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: it's just outright weird. I thought I was just being nice, 277 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: but there's the reality. So that is my story about 278 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: recently being kicked out of a celebrity event. What do 279 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: you think of that? All right, let's get on to 280 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: the feature presentation, shall we see. Eric Scott is originally 281 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: from Ohio. He went to college in North Carolina where 282 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: we met, and he now lives in Washington, DC. For 283 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: more than two decades, we have worked on so many 284 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: paranormal projects I truly cannot remember them all. We camped 285 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: at Brown Mountain many times looking for the mysterious lights. 286 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: We made the video report about the White House ghost Photo. 287 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: We made the video report about Oufos and Puerto Rico. 288 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: We traveled the country just the two of us, making 289 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: segments for an entire season of paranormal Paparazzi on the 290 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: Travel Channel. We worked on the Warner Brothers horror movie 291 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: called The Apparition. I mean, the list just goes on 292 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: and on. And when he recently visited me at my 293 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: new house in Vegas, we decided to just sit down, relax, 294 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: and shoot the breeze about some of our wild experiences. 295 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: And here, my friends, is that conversation. All right? I'm 296 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: sitting here in my kitchen, next to my swimming pool, 297 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: in the warm evening in Las Vegas, Nevada, with my 298 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: old buddy, mister c Eric Scott, and I think we're 299 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: starting a bit of a tradition here because when I 300 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: interviewed Forrest Connor, who was the very first person to 301 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: be interviewed face to face in my home, which is 302 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: an extremely rare occasion, we were having a single malt 303 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: scotch and lo and behold when you showed up, you 304 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: brought a b beautiful single malt scotch where you can 305 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: probably tell we're having it right now tonight we're having 306 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: it on the rocks with a splash of water to 307 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: wake it up a little bit. This is Mortlocke single 308 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: malt scotch whiskey, aged twelve years. Well, what a gift. 309 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to my kitchen, mister c Eric Scott. Cheers, Yes, 310 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: thank you. Cheers. You know what, when I was in Transylvania. 311 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: In Romania, they taught me that they say cheers by 312 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: saying oh okay, which basically means to your health. It's 313 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: the same kind of thing, right, So that's let's do 314 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: the Transylvanian version. Yeah, it's a spooky show man. What 315 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: a day we've had. You took me and Lauren out 316 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: for a fantastic dinner at a fine restaurant. We even 317 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: went out for some ice cream afterwards. 318 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: We did. 319 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: And when we finish up this this little talk and 320 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: these drinks, we're gonna go out. We're gonna chill in 321 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: the pool. We have a couple of cigars. We're just 322 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: trying our best to make everybody out there jealous right now. 323 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 3: Right, it's like the you know, the old rich men 324 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: on the Titanic, except you know, things didn't end well 325 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: for them, so hopefully that will not. 326 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: Happen to us. 327 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 3: My pool's only five and a half feet deep, right, yes, 328 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 3: but yes, of course you can remember the scene where 329 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 3: they're like, oh, let's go to the parlor for a 330 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 3: cigar and brandy. You know. So we're we're doing a 331 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 3: little different with the scotch, but still, you know, we 332 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 3: hopefully will not be sinking anywhere. 333 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: You have worked on a lot of paranormal projects. First off, 334 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: just so everyone knows, you have been working in filmmaking 335 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: and TV production the vast majority of your life, especially 336 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: your adult life. More or less, you're a professional photographer 337 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: as well, and that's a really special combo to know 338 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: how imagery works when it both captured still and moving 339 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: two different worlds. And you've got to bring them together, 340 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: especially when you're trying to capture and analyze mysterious things. Right, 341 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: So now we figured out that we'd known each other 342 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: for twenty two years, and tell everybody how we met 343 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: twenty two years ago. 344 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, interestingly enough, it was through one of 345 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: my college roommates who was looking into trying to produce 346 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 3: a documentary or a series of documentaries on North Carolina 347 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: ghost lore. And so he originally tried to team up 348 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 3: with an investigation group based out of Rawleigh, and he 349 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 3: met with them a couple times, but they it was 350 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 3: weird because they never showed him any of their footage 351 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: or they would just get together and talk about stuff, 352 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: but they never showed him anything. And so we know 353 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 3: he kept trying to arrange for us to go and 354 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: document one of their investigations, and they kept dragging their feet. 355 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 3: So he finally just got tired of dealing with them 356 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: and sought somebody else out in North Carolina and found 357 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 3: your website and and everything about Lemur, your investigation team, 358 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: and so he contacted you and you guys started a 359 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 3: dialogue and we eventually made arrangements to come to Asheville 360 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 3: and follow you on an investigation of the Growth Park 361 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 3: in where we were, of course looking for the world 362 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 3: famous Pink Lady, and you know, we set up meters 363 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: and different things in the in her famous room there, 364 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 3: which was what the five forty five, and then we 365 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 3: just kind of followed you guys around and you know, 366 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 3: got all kinds of crazy footage throughout that amazing historic property. 367 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: And you know what, Eric, I wasn't going to bring 368 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: this up, but what the heck, maybe I'll edit it out. 369 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: I just remember on one of our our investigations back 370 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: in those early days. Do you know where I'm going 371 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: with this? Not exactly. So one night, you and your 372 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: colleague and the Lemur team and I we were all there, 373 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: and we had a bunch of people from the mainstream 374 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: media that were also there documenting our investigation, and we 375 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: were all crowded in room five forty five, and one 376 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: of our Lemur investigators said he had some paranormal footage 377 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: that he wanted to show, and so all the media 378 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: was standing there with a baited breath, and they're watching 379 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: his computer screen and he hits the button and a 380 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: Hume movie pops up. But it was in night vision, 381 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: so it looked paranormal for a moment, right, This was 382 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: a whole movie that was not meant for public display, 383 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: I don't think. And I've never seen a man scramble 384 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: and sweat so fast or try to shield the screen 385 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: for that matter, and maybe five seconds and five seconds 386 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: is a long time under such circumstances. Five seconds later 387 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: we finally get to the orb footage, and nobody said 388 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: a word, right, yeah, everyone, I think was just trying 389 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: not to say anything, because what does one say in 390 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: a moment such as that, where you've just seen, well, 391 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: some questionable footage has nothing to do with paranormal. 392 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: And less well, maybe there was a ghost in there somewhere. 393 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, maybe all right, time for 394 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: a break, as I think you can see, this conversation 395 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: could go anywhere. I'm Joshua pe One. 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Warren, and this is the show where the 405 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: unusual becomes usual. And now back to my conversation with 406 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: ce Eric Scott. Okay, So you and I, after all 407 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: these years, we have worked together on so many projects 408 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: that it's impossible to remember off the top of my head. 409 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: So i have my laptop in front of me and 410 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm just kind of scrolling down and I'm just looking 411 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: at TV shows and stuff and like, oh, yeah, Eric 412 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: was there for that. Eric was there for that. You know, 413 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: we shot this, we produced this, and even looking at 414 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: the list, it's intimidating. So we're only going to be 415 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: able to focus on a few things. But I guess 416 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: some of the highlights are okay. Well, for one thing, 417 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: you spent a lot of time with us over many 418 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: years camping up at Brown Mountain. We were writing a 419 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: lot of Brown Mountain Lights research up there, and then 420 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: as time went on and we started getting more and 421 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: more opportunities to work with with movies and TV. You 422 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: also worked with the Apparition movie on for you know, 423 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: Warner Brothers came and they hired me to be a 424 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: tech consultant for the Apparition horror movie, and then we 425 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: worked together on that. We've done so many TV shows together, 426 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: but we actually were we created a team, a two 427 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: man team for the Travel Channel TV series called Paranormal Paparazzi. 428 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: They gave us basically a blank check and sent the 429 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: two of us on this epic journey across the United 430 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: States of America to just they We had some things 431 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: that we had to check off the list that we 432 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: had to do, but you and I wanted to really 433 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: press the producers, and so we went above and beyond 434 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: and we just started creating a lot of our own content, right, 435 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: shooting our own segments as well. 436 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: Well. Heck, we even did our own re enactments for 437 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 3: some of the things, which we've posted online. 438 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: Yes, that's true somewhere on YouTube. And we of course, 439 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: well you live in Washington, d C. 440 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: Right, And so. 441 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what year it was off the top 442 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: of my head, but I went up. Do you know 443 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the ghost photo, the world's wildest ghost photo? 444 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think I was around twenty fifteen, I think, 445 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: I think you're right. Yeah, So sometime around then I 446 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: traveled up to visit you and stay with you in Washington, DC, 447 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: and we traveled all over the place and talked to 448 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: everybody we could possibly talk to to try to figure 449 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: out the truth behind the so called ghost photo from 450 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: the White House basement. What maybe the ghost of Abraham 451 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: Lincoln standing below the location of the Lincoln Bedroom, which 452 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: actually was the war room during the Civil War. But 453 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: I think some of the more interesting experiences that we 454 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 1: may have had dealt with Puerto Rico. Yeah, probably Puerto Rico. Probably. 455 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: So you know, when we were in Puerto Rico, we 456 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: filmed a lot of stuff there. I mean there were 457 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: times you come down and stay for like a month 458 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: at a time or something like that, right, right, And 459 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: I remember one day you and I we were with 460 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: some friends and we went out to the Laguna Carctahena, 461 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: the Ufo Lagoon, And as a filmmaker, I want you 462 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: to tell everybody what you saw out there. This is 463 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: broad daylight, like in the afternoon, Puerto Rico. What did 464 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: you see out there over that lagoon where people have 465 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: had all kinds of UFO Experiences. 466 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 3: Well, as I recall, you know, we were standing on 467 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 3: the little observation platform there that's kind of overlooking the 468 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 3: lagoon itself, and one of the other members of our 469 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 3: party spotted at first these little sort of balls of 470 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 3: light or whatever. Maybe it was some sort of a 471 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 3: metallic sphere that was reflecting. It was really hard to 472 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 3: tell because the distance from us that we were seeing it, 473 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 3: and we all basically started filming and taking photos and 474 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: you know, try to get as capture as much of 475 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 3: this thing as we could, but it was really hard 476 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 3: to tell exactly what it was. And it was again, 477 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 3: from what I could tell, it looked like almost a 478 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 3: little ball of some sort that was just kind of. 479 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: Dancing around the water a bit. 480 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 3: Oh right, yeah, So it's so it's right, yeah, right 481 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 3: on the surface there, and it's really not clear. I mean, sure, 482 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 3: it could be some weird reflection, but it looks a 483 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 3: little I mean, it just looks a little too strange 484 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 3: for that. It almost looks like it could be something 485 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 3: that's sort of under the water and maybe a little 486 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 3: bit of it sticking out, or it could just be 487 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 3: a very small I don't know, maybe it's a small USO. 488 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: Well, a lot of the fishermen that we talked to, 489 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: we showed these pictures to them and they were like, 490 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, I've seen that million times. It's like 491 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: a little you can imagine it being like a metallic 492 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: little ball that's sort of like darting around the surface 493 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: of the lagoon. There, Na, right, and I saw it. 494 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: You saw it. The three people we are with saw it. 495 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: We all got footage of it. If any of you listening, 496 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: if you want to see the pictures we're looking at 497 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: right now, go to this website that I created, and 498 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: it's a little outdated, but it's called eracboproject dot com 499 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: a r e Cibo Racibo project dot com that happened 500 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: to us. I got it right here, Eric on February 501 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: the ninth of twenty fourteen, okay, twenty fourteen, Yeah, Lajas, 502 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. And it lasted for approximately thirty minutes. This 503 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: thing was bouncing around. Wow, But you told me that 504 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: that's not the only time you've seen something that might 505 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: be a UFO, right. 506 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 3: Right, Oh, yeah, there have been numerous times that I 507 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 3: have seen things that I really couldn't describe what it is. 508 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 3: Let's hear a story, Well, I guess the one that 509 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 3: probably stands out in my mind most vividly is a 510 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 3: time where I was driving back with my mom from 511 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 3: somewhere I don't remember, but we were. This was when 512 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 3: I used to live in Ohio, and a line of 513 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 3: thunderstorms had come through the area, so it really cleared 514 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 3: up the sky and you know, was really very clear 515 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 3: except to the east where you could see the clouds 516 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 3: from the storms. Anyway, I was looking up at the 517 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: sky because it was just so interesting looking, and then 518 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, out of thin air, a red 519 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 3: looking ball of light appeared in the sky and it 520 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 3: just stayed. It just stayed in place. And as I 521 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 3: was watching it, a second ball appeared kind of a 522 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 3: little bit further in a line from it, and then 523 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 3: a little bit after that, a third, and then a fourth, 524 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 3: and I believe even a fifth ball appeared, And these 525 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 3: were all little red balls of light that made a 526 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 3: perfectly straight line in the sky, and they were all 527 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 3: equid distant from there. They appeared to be equid distant 528 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 3: from each other. And so I watched these things around 529 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 3: it seemed to be several minutes, and they didn't move 530 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 3: or anything. I mean, they just stayed in, you know, 531 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: in place in the sky, and eventually they started to 532 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 3: disappear one by one. And also we were starting to 533 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 3: drive out of the area, but we were driving in 534 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 3: a part of Ohio that's a fairly flat lot of 535 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 3: farm land, so you know, not a lot of objects 536 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 3: to obstruct the view you or anything like that. So 537 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 3: I was able to really keep my eyes on these 538 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 3: objects for you know, probably at least fifteen or twenty 539 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 3: minutes as we were driving through through this area. And so, yeah, 540 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 3: I've never never really seen much of anything else like 541 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 3: that where these things, you know, I mean, because usually 542 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 3: if it's a plane or helicopter or something else, you know, 543 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 3: it's got movement to it, you know, some kind of 544 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 3: linear movement or whatever. And these things did not move 545 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 3: at all. They just were like hovering in place. But 546 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 3: it was just a single like a single what appeared 547 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 3: to be a single point of light from each thing. 548 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 3: Not like again when you see a helicopter or a 549 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 3: plane that have beacons on them that flash. This wasn't 550 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 3: doing anything like that. 551 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what it was, but you know, 552 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: maybe it was the aliens hard as hell, you know, 553 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: one thing that is so I think admirable about you 554 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 1: and your work is that, even though you have been 555 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: on so many paranormal investigations, you've worked on so many 556 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: paronrmal TV shows and movies, you're not one of these 557 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: guys who's out there telling about one hundred paranormal experiences 558 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: that you've had. You know, you're very reserved and you 559 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: do your best to be a skeptical person. You're not 560 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: out there. You're not cynical, you're not doubting that these 561 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: things are real, but you have a very balanced perspective 562 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: in terms of like how to rationally view what may 563 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: or may not be an explanation. And going back to 564 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: the White House Ghost photo. Okay, so I've got here 565 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: that video pulled up that we did, and anybody, if 566 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: you've never seen this, if you just go to Joshua 567 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: Pwarren dot com and you click the section called Gallery 568 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: of the Strange, you're going to find a lot of 569 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: good stuff there, and one of them is a link 570 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: that says click here for Warren's special video report on 571 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: the White House Ghost Photo. Now, without getting too technical, here, 572 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: when we went around and talked to some of the 573 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: best experts photographic experts in Washington, DC. They were saying that, well, 574 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: maybe it was possible that this could be some type 575 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: of a long exposure, so that you end up with 576 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: a picture of these guys who are on a construction 577 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 1: site in the baby in the basement of the White House, 578 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: and just about everybody else is in focus, but there's 579 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: one guy is out of focus, and so maybe somehow 580 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: he was moving or whatever. But the problem is he 581 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: doesn't look blurry, right, it doesn't look like he was moving, 582 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: and it's a very well lit construction scene, right, And 583 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: without having the exact type of camera and film and 584 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: knowing for a fact the settings that Abby Rowe was using, 585 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: the photographer, you try to reproduce that those conditions to 586 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: see if you could create something like this using a 587 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: long exposure, what would your conclusion. That seems like a 588 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: good place for a break. When we come back, we 589 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: will get his conclusion and we will have the conclusion 590 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: of this show. You know, this is a good example 591 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: I think of how that you know, I wanted to 592 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: go for many years to the White House to investigate 593 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: the ghost standing there in that photo under the Lincoln bedroom. 594 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 1: But now, as I said earlier in this podcast. I mean, 595 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: politics has become such a dark business. I don't even 596 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: know if I want to go into the White House anymore, 597 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: because if you do that, people are going to assume 598 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: that you have one alliance or another. It's kind of sad. 599 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on 600 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast SAM Paranormal Podcast Network, 601 00:38:52,360 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: and I will be right back. Don't go anywhere. There's 602 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: more Strange Things coming right up. 603 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 4: Hi, this is Wuija Board expert Karen A. Dolman, and 604 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 4: you're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM 605 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 4: Paranormal Podcast Network. 606 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: Hi, this is George Norian. You're listening to the new 607 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Now 608 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: let's get back to Strange Things with Joshua P. Warre. 609 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the final segment of this edition of 610 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: Strange Things the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast a M 611 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,280 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren, 612 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: And here is the conclusion of my recent conversation with 613 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: mister c Eric Scott. What was your conclusion? 614 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 3: I mean, we're just looking at the original photograph and 615 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 3: knowing what I know about, you know, creating long exposure photographs. 616 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 3: In order for that to be what caused, you know, 617 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 3: in order for a long exposure to be what caused 618 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 3: the image in the White House to turn out. 619 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: The way that it did, you would have, you know, 620 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 1: none of the other men would have remained. 621 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 3: A focused because I mean, it's it's really hard to 622 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 3: stand still for any length of time. I mean, I'm 623 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 3: sure that you know, anytime you've ever tried to take 624 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 3: a photo in a low light condition without a flash, 625 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 3: most cameras that have automatic settings on them will try 626 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 3: to compensate for the low light by holding their shutter 627 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 3: open longer to allow more light to expose for the photograph. 628 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 3: What happens, then, is if you've got anybody moving in 629 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 3: that photo, you know that they turn out blurry or 630 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 3: streaky or whatever. Sure, you can see through part of them, 631 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 3: but usually you can't see through all of them. Like, 632 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 3: so the part that was maybe moving, you can, like 633 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 3: if they waved an arm or whatever, you'll see a 634 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 3: little bit, but the rest of them typically ends up 635 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 3: being solid. Well, in the case of that white House photo, 636 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 3: that figure appears to be completely translucent and not moving. 637 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: Yes. And the other thing is the men that are the. 638 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 3: Construction workers that are in there are also appear to 639 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 3: be standing perfectly still. 640 00:41:59,440 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: You know. 641 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 3: Again, if you're doing a long exposure, even if they 642 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 3: were told to stand still, they're probably going to move 643 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 3: a little bit and you're going to be able to 644 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 3: see some blurry edges or something around the other people 645 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 3: in there, and you don't really see that. So that's 646 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 3: what leads me to believe that it probably is not 647 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 3: a long exposure photograph that we're looking at. You know, 648 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 3: we did try to recreate it, and we you know, 649 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 3: using some different techniques, and we weren't able to come, 650 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 3: you know, up with anything that looked identical or even 651 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 3: similar to what they came up with. 652 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: So here's the kicker, And I will never understand this, 653 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: but to me, this is the smoking gun that proves 654 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: that we are correct that this cannot be explained as 655 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: a long exposure. We spent months working on this photograph. 656 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: You even after we filmed in DC, you came down 657 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: to Puerto Rico, where I was living at the time, 658 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 1: and we actually edited the video in Puerto Rico. We 659 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 1: were so fixated on the image of the ghost that 660 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: we put our whole video together, put it out to 661 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: the world and did not even realize until somebody saw 662 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: this video that there is another image in the photograph 663 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: lower down of a workman who looks a little bit 664 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,919 Speaker 1: blurry because he happens to be taking a step as 665 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: the picture is made. And the wonderful thing about that 666 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: man being there is you can see he is literally 667 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: in the process of taking a step, and you can 668 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 1: see where he began and where he ended, and that 669 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: exposure could not be longer than two seconds at the most. 670 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: It is impossible to explain how you could get an 671 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: exposure longer than two seconds with that man and those positions. 672 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 1: And therefore what that means is that if he is 673 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 1: not blurred more than one step, and it proves this 674 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 1: image was not exposed more than one to two seconds, 675 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 1: a long exposure could not be an explanation for the 676 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: translucent ghostly figure. Why doesn't this man also look translucent, right, Well, yeah, 677 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 1: that would be him. So we really ought to do 678 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: a follow up video after all these years where we 679 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: say here's the update. You know, we literally do an 680 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: updated version, and I guess I could just do that 681 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: on my own, just show the picture and just do 682 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: a voiceover and post it again, because there are a 683 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: lot of people who don't realize that this was something 684 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: that I mean, I'll never understand how we overlooked that 685 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: when we were here. Yeah. 686 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I guess because looking at it, it really 687 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 3: kind of blends in with that pile of rubble. So yeah, 688 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 3: you know, and the looks like the clothing that the 689 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 3: guy is wearing is very light colored, so he just 690 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 3: kind of like was almost camouflaged. 691 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that, you know, that's a really interesting thing 692 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: about about that project. So next thing I want to 693 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: touch on here you have you were you were the 694 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: person who shot the original Wishing Machine video that we did. Gosh, 695 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: I don't even know how many years ago. See, I'm 696 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm on my computer. I gotta look at all this 697 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: stuff up now, Like when did we do this? When 698 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: when I got together with doctor Malder and we decided 699 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,800 Speaker 1: that we were going to start promoting the Wishing Machine project, 700 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: meaning that we were he was going to start making 701 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: these and we were going to make them affordable. We 702 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: were going to start keeping track of people's results and 703 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how all this works. Okay, that 704 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: was ten years ago. Okay according to YouTube, and uh 705 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: so that video, the very first one, is ten minutes long. 706 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: It's been viewed by you know, like thousands of thouars, 707 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 1: like eighty nine thousand people, it says, right here, just 708 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: that one version of it. 709 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 3: But you. 710 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 1: Have continued filming wishing machine stuff. You filmed also the 711 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: Wishing Machine Workshop movie, right which is like a two 712 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 1: hour movie that anybody can watch for free right now 713 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: if you go to Wishingmachine project dot com. But you 714 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,879 Speaker 1: used the wishing machine, you've had some extraordinary experiences. Tell 715 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: us about a wishing machine experience you've had. 716 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 3: We don't know. I'm afraid that you know, if I 717 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 3: tell this, everybody's going to go out and buy one 718 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 3: and minute, you know it's going to kind o no. 719 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 3: But seriously, you know, of course, what's the first thing 720 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 3: that everybody thinks of when a wishing machine? Well, what 721 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 3: can I do with this? 722 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: Well, everybody wants to get money. 723 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,439 Speaker 3: Right, So here here is a story that it really 724 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 3: happened that will make you sell out of wishing machines 725 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 3: almost instantly. So I thought it would be fun to 726 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 3: try one of the small units that you produced called 727 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 3: the field X machine, and I already have like a 728 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 3: full size machine that I just leave set up permanently 729 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 3: for stuff. But with the small field X machine, it's 730 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 3: really nicely sized so that you can take it and 731 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,439 Speaker 3: experiment with it, you know, different places, which is great 732 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 3: because it'll even run off of a nine volt battery, 733 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 3: which hey, how great is that? So anyway, I bought 734 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 3: this thing and decided to go to a casino and 735 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 3: try it, because hey, why not. So I set the 736 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 3: thing up, left it in my car in the garage 737 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 3: of the casino that I went to, and went in there, 738 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 3: probably played for a few hours and ended up ultimately 739 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 3: winning a nice jackpot, and it was a taxable jackpot, 740 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 3: so I mean, anybody who's gambled in a casino knows 741 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 3: that when it's a taxable, I mean, it's a significant 742 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 3: enough amount of money that they have to come over 743 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 3: and actually hand pay you exactly, so so you know, 744 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 3: I can say that it was a successful test. And 745 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,320 Speaker 3: then the very next night I went to a different casino, 746 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 3: and this time though, because this other casino is very 747 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 3: close to my house, I just set the thing up 748 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 3: and left it in my apartment. Basically you know, and 749 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 3: because I was like, well, let's see if distance makes 750 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 3: a difference, because I also just didn't feel like trying 751 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 3: to drag it along put the car anyway, So I 752 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 3: put it in the you know, set it up in 753 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 3: my bedroom and left, basically using very similar setup to 754 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 3: what I had done the night before when I set 755 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 3: it up in the in the car. And I'll be 756 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 3: damned if I didn't walk out of that other casino 757 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 3: with I didn't. It wasn't a jackpot, but I did 758 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 3: end up leaving several hundred dollars ahead. So I mean 759 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 3: that's you know, two nights in a row using a 760 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 3: wishing machine. I mean that seems like pretty good results. 761 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 3: And I noticed that now that you've traveled here to 762 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 3: Las Vegas, you packed your wishing machine and brought it 763 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 3: with you. I did. I did because why not experiment 764 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 3: and one of the greatest, you know, laboratories in the world, right, 765 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 3: I mean, you can do all kinds of interesting stuff 766 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 3: here in Las Vegas. 767 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,320 Speaker 1: And people ask me frequently, am I going to have 768 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 1: a problem with the TSA if I bring my wishing 769 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 1: machine on a trip? And absolutely not. I've traveled all 770 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 1: over the place with a wishing machine even to other countries. 771 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 1: But I think the clearest example of this is I 772 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,879 Speaker 1: have a good friend who, well for a long time, 773 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 1: was one of the supervisors two at the TSA, and 774 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 1: I was talking to him about people concerned about traveling 775 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 1: with the wishing machine and he goes, no, we know 776 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 1: what that is. He says, we have it in our 777 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: handbook because it's not a threat. He says, well, he says, 778 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 1: every electronic device is basically just a case with wires 779 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: in it. My wishing machine is no different. You know. 780 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, we love them because they're 781 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: even easier to look into. We can do we can 782 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 1: see what's in there, So don't worry if you're traveling 783 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 1: about bringing your wishing machine. Unfortunately we are out of time, 784 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: but I want to thank mister c Eric Scott for 785 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,760 Speaker 1: all of his years of great friendship and for sitting 786 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 1: down for this conversation. Also, he does food reviews on 787 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 1: his YouTube channel. Go to c Ericscott dot com. There 788 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 1: is no period after the C and that C E 789 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: R I C S C O T T C Eric 790 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: Scott dot com. Also years ago, he and I made 791 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 1: a comedy in Puerto Rico called The Commodore, starring the 792 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: two of us. I gotta warn you the languages are 793 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 1: rated and it's it's it's not the greatest movie, but 794 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: if you want to see it, go to commodoremovie dot com, 795 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: Commodore movie dot com, Commodore movie dot com. That's it 796 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 1: for this edition of the show. Follow me on Twitter 797 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 1: at Joshua P. Warren. 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