WEBVTT - Episode 1: Comic Conventions 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:17.120 Alrighty, hello everybody. Welcome, Welcome, welcome, Welcome to the pilot 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:21.960 episode of Nerdificent. I'm if I am Danny Fernandez. Thank 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:24.639 you for joining us. Yes, yes, and we're here to 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:28.080 talk about how one thing that is synonymous with the 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:30.480 word nerd. I feel like nerd and this is going 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:32.960 hand in hand and this is kind of what skyrocketed 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:36.400 nerd culture to the mainstream. Yeah, and that's what this 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.279 show is kinda going to be about. You guys are 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:40.720 gonna be tackling different things in nerd culture that some 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:42.360 of you might be aware of and some of you 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.360 might not be. Yeah, And whether you're a old school 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:48.960 vet rolland Dice down in the basement or a new 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.280 fan who just saw the hit movie I'm calling it 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:55.800 now smash box office hit Black Panther, Let's find some more. 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:57.200 And now they're like, I want to be a nerd 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:01.880 Now we'll have it all here, So dissecting everything a 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:05.119 nerd um that we grew up with and more maybe 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.119 some of them, some of that new nerd hotness, you know. Yeah, 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:09.800 although I have a feeling you and I are going 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.120 to trend towards a lot of anime as well. Oh, Yeah, 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.960 that's then, so I feel like somety it's going to 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:20.280 make its away. But yeah, So today's subject is probably 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:26.720 one of the biggest, most popular mainstays within nerd culture, 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:30.039 and that is the comic book convention. But if we're 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:33.000 being super specific, we're talking about comic con and the 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:36.800 comic con as most people know it, which is the 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:40.600 annual San Diego Comic Con. And that's usually what people 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:45.200 are referring to when they because it is the international 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.520 comic con, which means people from all over the world 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.840 are flying to go to this specific comic con. But 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:53.360 before we get into that, let's break it down. What 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:56.080 is a comic con or what is it? Well, we 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.680 all know comic con or we may not. Don't want 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.920 to judge anyone. Short for comic book convention. Yes, yeah, 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:07.640 a gathering of nerds and now it's grown to hundreds 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:11.720 of thousands of people that flocked to San Diego. But 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:16.200 the original actually, let's go back to one of the 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:20.120 oldest sci fi conventions ever. This was on record, So 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:24.520 the oldest, the first recorded inner city meetup of science 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.640 fiction fans was phil Con and that was in nineteen 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.840 thirty six. It was a small party of science fiction 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:31.560 fans in New York. So that was the first one 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:33.919 on record, that's according to Geeks Media. So all the 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.320 way back in nineteen there were nerds. Yeah, I'd like 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.040 to imagine that it was like just a party, like 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.639 where it was like, yeah, we all nerds were coming 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.720 in our in our sci fi gear and we're gonna 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:47.760 turn up they're like War of the World soever. And 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.640 so then we move on to the first recorded official 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:54.320 comic book convention. So that was nineteen sixty four in 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.440 New York. Yeah, known as the New York Comic Con. 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:01.120 It was held in July nineteen sixty four at the 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:04.440 Workmen's Circle Building. It was a one day convention organized 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:08.760 by sixteen year old Bernie Bubbus. It was organized by 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:14.320 six year that's when you're in your peak nerdiness. Yeah, 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.040 that's when you're your peak comic book collector. Yeah, that's 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.920 when you have gumption to like do a whole convention. 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:22.680 But it wasn't just him. It was also a fellow enthusiast, 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:26.280 Rod Fratkin. Official guests of the tri state con included 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:30.520 Steve Ditko, Flow Steinberg, and Tom Gill and there the 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:34.560 reports have over one h attendees. That's good for back 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.960 then for sixteen year old as well. I wonder if 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:38.720 they charge people at the door. I mean, do you 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.120 think little Bernie bubb Nous would think that he'd be 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:46.960 able to add three zeros behind that? So moving on, 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:51.320 we have what we know as which is the San 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:55.360 Diego Comic Con. So that was originally called San Diego's 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.520 Golden State Comic Con. It was a mini con, So 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:02.840 the first everone was in Mark one of nineteen seventy 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:06.320 and the men that had put that together include Shell 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:09.200 doorf Ken Krueger, and Richard alf so they were the 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.600 original ones. They then later had another mini con in 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.160 August of that same year, so they're doing that. They 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.839 were doing like nice little mini conventions, kind of testing 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.640 it out before they went big. Yeah, it was actually interesting. 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.200 So the second con that they had, the one that 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:26.000 was in August, they actually got Jack Kirby as a guest, 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.520 and he's the man who created basically every notable Marvel 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:33.479 superhero from Captain America to X Men. But they also 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:37.040 had Fahrenheit four fifty one author Ray Bradberry, and this 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.760 is a really interesting way that they got him there. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:43.320 So he actually gave a speech at San Diego State University, 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.440 and Dorf and Alf, two of the guys that had 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:48.160 put the mini cons together, they attended and then they 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:51.320 waited for him after his speech, and they asked him 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.080 if he would speak at their comic con, and he said, yeah, 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:58.200 sure for his normal speaking fee, which was five thousand dollars, 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:01.440 which was roughly adds up to about thirty thousand today. 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:05.120 So yeah, I'll do it thirty kids. And so they 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.279 were like, we can't do that. They came up with 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.320 a plan. They essentially lied to him and said it 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.719 was a nonprofit to educate the public about comics, and 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:18.000 Bradberry was like, sure, I'll do it. So that's kind 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.240 of how the first original San Diego Comic Con came 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.559 to be. Again, they were calling it the Golden State 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.200 Comic Con, and then eventually in nineteen seventy three when 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.760 they settled on San Diego Comic Con. That's nice STCC 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:34.919 that we know, Buil. I think they was reading about 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:36.880 this story which was in the Rolling Stone, by the way, 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:38.800 and I think that they had said, now they had 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.159 to think of a way to make it nonprofit. Yeah, 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:45.440 and there there are technically nonprofit till this day. They're 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.440 nonprofit organizations. So that that is what was the original 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.640 San Diego Comic Con. And again when as If he said, 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:54.200 when people say comic con, that is what they're referring to. However, 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:58.080 we have kind of moved on to a specialization of cons. 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:03.680 Conventions have spread throughout the country, throughout I mean internationally 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:07.320 as well, but here in America. Cut you off, but yeah, 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.240 on the seats there's like lots of cruise cons too. 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.080 And I think it's that the fact that happens when 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:16.480 you have something grow to a certain point, it'll fork 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:20.080 off and have its own genres within that genre. So 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:23.360 you have like Doctor who Comes, You have like you know, 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:27.359 anime conventions specifically for anime, which I have to stop 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:29.960 you right there because Anime Expo, which you and I 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.719 have both have so many stories from the Anime Expo 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:39.160 is the largest North American anime convention. It is It's insane. 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.440 I you and I have been like the last couple 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.919 of years. I go, I think, I go for like 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:45.800 an hour and have to give my badual. It's like 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.440 walking through I've never been amongst that many people. Because 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.359 the difference with so anime Expo actually takes place in 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.840 Los Angeles, where San Diego Comic Con is a larger 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:58.160 acred sprawling. What it's grown to now is it's a 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:02.080 lot of outdoor restaurants and bars and interactive things as 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.039 well as inside the convention center. Whereas Anime Expo in 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.599 l A. Here is a lot of just everyone on 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.280 top of each other in one singular area. Well, that's 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.080 been the biggest thing, which if you aren't aware, there's 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:17.640 a big argument within the congoers of moving comic Con 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.120 to l A versus having it in San Diego, and 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.560 San Diego just hands down has more space. The reason 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.840 this is is if you haven't been to San Diego 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:30.880 Comic Con, the convention center is downtown right next to 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:34.560 it's like downtown the Harbor Gas Lamp District, which is 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:37.400 downtown San Diego. Yes, and it's also right next to 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.400 the Petco Stadium. So comic Con has had the ability 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:44.400 to spread its wings and expand out into those spaces, 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:46.440 and a lot of the people who show up at 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.200 comic Con don't feel the need to have to be 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.600 within the con because a lot of them are taking over. 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:56.320 Like Adult Swim always has a huge area outside near 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.360 Petco Park. You always have a lot of like Assassin's 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:03.000 Creed ubis Off would have like a whole obstacle course 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.760 right outside of the con And then all of the 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.160 bars and restaurants are branded, so there's room to breathe 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.520 that's not on top where's l A. L A is 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.560 l A And there's always so much going on. So 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:17.520 you have the convention Center and then there's probably a 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:21.160 marathon going on. They did that one year where it 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.800 was like an actual con and then also the l 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:27.400 A Marathon. Also, the area just doesn't have much, like 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.560 it's really just a whole bunch of like want to 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.680 be New York style buildings in downtown l A who 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.560 don't give a damn about the con. And then you 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.840 have the Staples Center area, which if they don't have 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:42.040 a game kind of tries to take that place. But 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.280 I remember one year there was Anime Expo and across 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.920 from the Anime Exposed where the X games and I 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:54.520 can't think of tumors, fandoms to put in, well, you 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:56.880 and I I think we're texting each other because just 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.160 to kind of put this into perspective, the line to 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:04.200 pick up your badge was four to five hours to 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:09.000 pick up your badge to get in. It was insane. Yeah. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:13.199 So this just to top off this, Anime Expo seventeen 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.640 numbers over a hundred seven thousand warm and three hundred 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:20.640 fifty seven thousand turnstyle, so like coming in now, Yeah, 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.200 I mean it was everyone was on top of each other. 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.960 And Anime Expo also, if we're just talking about specializations 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.280 and cons, they go all out. So I would say 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.280 the difference between them and say, maybe San Diego Comic 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.000 Con is I think it's like fifty fifty percent of 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.959 people are dressed up, of people are just normal people 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.480 enjoying it. Anime Expo it's like nine people are dressed 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.720 up and that takes a lot of time to also 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:48.600 go through security with like swords and helmets and all 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.959 of this stuff. So and just to put that whole 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:54.200 like bringing Comic Con to l a argument to bed 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.560 the numbers that you just said for Anime Expo, just 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.520 remember that. Well, so what were the numbers again? You 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:03.840 said over a hundred and seven thousand and then three 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:08.600 fifty seven thousand turnstile. Yeah, so Comic Con they were 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:11.360 saying that their last year numbers was a hundred and 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.160 thirty five thousand. So if we can't even handle a 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:18.839 hundred and seven thousands without just having huge congestion, it 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.320 just because I don't know if you saw the picture 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:26.400 of last year, but you can't see carpet overhead view. 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.040 You just person on top of person. So if we 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.600 can't even handle a hundred seven thousand, there's no way 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.480 we'll be able to handle the amount of people. And 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.200 that's people getting into the con, not to mention people 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.000 who just go to San Diego Comic Con just to 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.160 hang out. So it's I do want to say that. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.360 You know, two years ago they did that pole in 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.120 San Diego and it was like, what would you rather 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.440 keep San Diego Comic Con or the Chargers? And we 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.280 saw how that went because San Diego does not want 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.520 to give up its con. It's the one way they're 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:56.959 making money. You know. The blackfish killed off the whole 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.800 Sea World thing. They lost that, you know, And soon 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:02.880 we're coming. We're coming for the zoo. You know. I'm 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:06.360 working on Good Monkey, you know, and look working title 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:10.160 Good Monkey. It's about the way the San Diego Zoo 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:15.400 is abusing monkeys and other animals. Working time, continuing on 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.640 with our our our specialization of cons. We also have 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:22.640 Star Wars Celebration, which is in Orlando in D twenty three, 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.679 which is the Disney Expo that's in l A. Now, 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.360 something that's interesting with both of these is that what 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.120 we've seen so for the longest time, Sandy Go Comic 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.840 Con was kind of the premiere for trailers, so so 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.960 Marvel trailers that would drop d C trailers that would 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:42.760 drop these huge superhero comic book films. And what we've 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.079 seen the last couple of years is Disney is like, 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.959 you know what, we have our own convention, So we're 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.480 gonna air Infinity War at our own convention instead of 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.760 at Comic Con. And I think that's really balls and 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.559 also just shows you know, how much money a lot 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:58.720 of these other cons are making as well, where they 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.640 kind of have spiraled off into something that's happening in 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.480 Orlando or here in l A. Well, that's just kind 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.160 of like the endgame of the cons. That and I 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.360 feel like one of the biggest problem with cons now 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:12.760 because we started from this, you know, this small con 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.600 put together of enthusiasts by you know, our boy Bernie 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.719 bubb Nous, and you know, like we it was just 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.200 for the passion of it. It was just just trying 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.120 to find like minded individuals who want to come together. 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.760 And now it's just a hub for consumerism. It's a 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:32.800 hub to get people who basically want to sell you things. 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:45.720 And we'll get more into that after the break and 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.040 we're back. So we left off on the note talking 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:51.520 about the history of comic Con San Diego comic Con specifically, 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.319 which is the comic con. I want to remind people 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.360 just in case people are wanting I mean, legally, we'll 0:12:56.400 --> 0:13:01.800 get into that, but legally, just just wait for us 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.760 to get to that. But yeah, it wasn't always as 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.560 big as it was, and I kind of came into 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.079 the world of comic con when I was an adult. 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:13.000 I was able to afford to drive down to San 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.959 Diego myself, buy a ticket and do that because there 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:17.800 was no way I was going to convince my Nigerian 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.760 father to ever spend money on anything that was in 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:24.760 me trying to become a doctor. Lloyd. But Danny, you 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.920 you actually had a childhood. Uh, well, my family's from 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:32.040 San Diego. So when I was like nine or ten, 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:37.199 got super into anime, specifically Dragon ball Z and convinced 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.240 my mom when I was about eleven to take me 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.280 to Comic Con, me and my brother's and a girlfriend 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.439 of mine because I was obsessed with the voice actors 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.040 for Dragon ball Z, which is a very popular anime. 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.800 I was obsessed with the English voice actors that those 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:52.320 were the ones that I saw in television and that 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.719 they had at Comic Con that were signing, and so 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.640 I had convinced her to take me. I can tell 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:01.080 you a couple of things. One probably not as expensive 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.120 or else my mom would not have taken my brothers 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.200 and I as well. And two it was definitely not 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.440 as packed like I just remember parts of the convention 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:13.720 being kind of empty. There was a section where a 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.439 lot of the boots were that had the voice actors, 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:19.080 and I got them to sign like DVDs. So we 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.920 can talk about parts of what the convention actually is. 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:25.600 There's an area known as Artists Alley. That's where a 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.600 lot of independent artists and also artists that you will 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:32.640 see that have worked on Nickelodeon projects, Marvel comic book artists. 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.000 A lot of them will do commissions on the floor 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.640 that you can pay for. They'll sign their artwork. They 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.720 have a lot of fan art there as well. Even 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:43.560 in the comic book world. If you buy comic books 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:47.040 near Comic Con, you'll have comic book covers that are 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.960 just blank so that you can take it to Comic 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.280 Con and get your own custom covered done. So like, 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.400 there's lots of like love for artists, Alley, what was 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.400 that like back then? Was was it easier to navigate? 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.480 I don't necessarily remember artists, Ali. I do remember the 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:05.000 major companies still being there though, So Funimation is the 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:06.960 one that owns Dragon ball Z. So I remember their 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.880 booth and they had VHS tapes back then. That was 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.840 the thing to buy was animal VHS tapes and get 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:16.040 the voice actors to sign it. But yeah, I believe 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.080 that they still had PlayStation and you know, I don't 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.400 even know if Nickelodeon was there. Now Nickelodeon has so 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.520 if you go to comic Con now, yeah, Nickelodeon has 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.840 a huge presence. They normally have an interactive like house 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:29.520 that you can walk through. I think this past year 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:31.560 it was Hey Arnold, I know that they had people 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:34.480 taking pictures with but the year years prior they've had 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.200 like SpongeBob's Pineapple that you can walk through and take 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.840 pictures with adult swim as if he said earlier. Normally 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.280 has an area set up right outside of the con 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.360 and they'll have remember they had like an aquitine hunger 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.280 Force interactive things, so they have a lot of these 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:53.800 companies have interactive type of homes or whatever. You might say. Yeah, 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.000 and that's and that's what's so crazy, is like to 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:59.240 hear back to yesteryear a comic con where it was 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:05.760 just boo in signing the comics you'll ever get to. 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.480 That are the newer cons that startup that can't really 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.960 afford or garner the attention of these huge media companies. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.120 Like I remember the first I went to the first 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:17.840 Long Beach comic con. Now it's it's insane, but like before, 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.960 it was literally just you went into a convention hall 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:23.120 and there was a booth that was damn near a 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:27.160 combination of artists alley and smaller comic bookshops that were 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:31.920 reselling comics and just like other like smaller indie publishers. 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.560 But now if you walk the floor of comic con, 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.040 what you're gonna see is it's almost gonna look like 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:41.920 an amusement part because you've got Fox WB like Walking 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.720 Dead takes up a huge part of it, which is 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.000 normally some interactive thing. Again, this is inside the convention, 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.320 so you'll you'll end up walking through some type of 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:54.160 interactive zombie maze or something that's set up inside the convention, 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.000 unless you're me, I don't do that. I don't go 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.440 in it, like I see the outside. The outside is nice, 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.680 but you have DC will have obviously a huge present. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.800 Last year was Wonder Woman seventy five anniversary, so they 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:09.080 had a huge Wonder Woman exhibit. Marvel will have an 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.600 entire Marvel stage where sometimes they will bring the actors 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:16.360 onto the Marvel stage. They'll also bring Marvel Voice actors 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:19.640 onto this stage. This is all within the convention, so 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:22.480 it's kind of everything's happening at once, so it's kind 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:27.760 of loud. It's very if you have claustrophobia and like reception, 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.200 I wanna I want to if this is the first 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.920 year that you're going to a con, you somehow snack tickets. 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:36.359 You're going to Common Sandyo com Con, don't bother bringing 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.760 your phone. You will have no reception. There are too 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.160 many people in one place trying to use the cell service, 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.520 and it's trash. You you can only call. Don't think 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.680 you're gonna be updating your instant all that you gotta 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:49.480 save it to your phone. You might as well bring 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:53.120 one of those old school cameras. I guess I could 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.560 have called it a disposable camera, but freaking free. I 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:59.119 feel like I would be doing everyone a disservice if 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:02.239 I didn't mention that the huge thing that's known as 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:08.560 Hall H and Hall H is a six hundred seat 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:13.119 showcase essentially for big projects. So when if he was 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:16.439 mentioning that this is kind of consumerism, Hall H is 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.840 a section of comic Con that is very hard to 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:23.160 get into. You either have to sleep overnight in order 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.600 to get into it, like literally, people will line up 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.639 two days before or a day before. You'll get a ticket. 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.639 If you're wondering of how this works while you're in 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.680 line so that you can leave to go the bathroom, 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:36.120 or if you are pressed, and if you're special press, 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:38.359 you have to have a password. I know because I 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.320 got to go in last year. You have a password, 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:42.399 so you not even with a press badge can you 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.840 get in. It's a press badge plus a password, plus 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.600 you're on the list to get in and Hall H 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.120 is where they showcase everything. When you see the Justice 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.680 League lineup of Gal and Ben Affleck and as Run, 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.280 Jason Momo and all of them standing up there, that 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.520 is at Hall H. Yeah, whenever they have the cast 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:03.560 of Logan or whatever that's happening in Hall Age. Also, 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.200 if you want here, I feel like a lot of 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:09.280 people use podcasts to experience things that they feel like 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:12.199 they might never experience. So here, close your eyes, if 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:15.400 you're listening, I'm gonna give you the hall Age experience. So, 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.120 so imagine you just saved up all your money all 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.640 year and you and you actually were able to get 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.280 a Comic Con ticket, you and one other person, or 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.159 you're flying to San Diego. You get down to San Diego, 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:30.000 can get down to your hotel that you're spending way 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:32.560 too much money on. You might see stan Lee in 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:35.480 the in the lobby. It's real, it's real good. And 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:37.960 then you're like, I gotta get to Hall Age. So 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:41.120 you instead of going around Comic Con and seeing the sites, 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:45.000 you stand outside this door all day and all night, 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.720 and you wake up, you go in and you watch 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:53.080 a trailer and then it's released thirty seconds and so 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:56.400 listen last year they had released the Wonder Woman trailer 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:58.719 in hall Age. It was a very big deal. I 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:00.560 could not be in hall Age at the time. I 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:02.719 was in my hotel room and I literally watched at 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:04.960 the same time as everyone in hall Age. I will 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.280 say though, that it is exciting to be amongst your 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:09.560 fellow nerds when even when I got to go in 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:12.160 and I felt bad because people had spent the night there, 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:15.400 But watching those people walk in, they were so excited, 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:17.359 like that they win the Latto because they made it in. 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:20.080 They were like jumping and dancing on their way in there. 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.639 So now then my version was the cynical one. But 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:26.000 there is something like I've for example, been to a 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:29.760 bar that was showing an E sports match and watching 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:32.920 it with nerds and cheering for teams together. It does 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.560 add a whole another layer of excitement to it. And 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:37.679 also not only do you get to see the trailer, 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:39.359 you get to be in the same room with some 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:43.000 of the hugest celebrities that you've ever seen. So yeah, 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.600 so that is a phenomenon known as hall age. If 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:47.720 you ever hear someone referred to it, Yeah, that is 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:50.680 whole age. And there's many other halls but hall age 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:52.479 is the one you want to be in, and if 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:53.760 you're a host, is the one you want to be 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:56.680 hosting in. If Chris Hardwick in, yeah, I was gonna 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.680 say he is, He's probably the designated hall h hose. 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.320 He's the king. But we touched on artists Alley, but 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:05.000 I don't think we kind of explained it. But I 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:08.240 I feel like a lot of people might not know. 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:12.200 Like you're hearing about all these different brands and all 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:14.880 these cool things, like well, all those things sound cool. 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:18.040