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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. UT's let's go.

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Speaker 1: Let's go Giants. I like it out my Giants, give

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Speaker 1: me some jump. Part of the Giants podcast network. Let's

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Speaker 1: roll and now we welcome in one of the newest

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Speaker 1: members of New York Football Giants, edge Player, Victor d Mukaji. Victor,

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Speaker 1: how are you man?

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Speaker 2: Knowing well? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well? So edge player? Is that accurate? Is

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Speaker 1: that how you would kind of classify yourself the end

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Speaker 2: I say edge player. You know I saw a linebacker

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Speaker 2: edge player, someone who could said the edge rush you, passer,

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Speaker 2: drive back if you need to be so.

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Speaker 1: Describe your game for for Giant fans that maybe haven't

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Speaker 1: seen you play.

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Speaker 2: I'll say I'm a physical specimen. You know, I play

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Speaker 2: to my strengths. You know, I just like the physical

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Speaker 2: play of the game. You know, do the dirty work

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Speaker 2: if you need me on special teams, defense or Russia, passer,

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Speaker 2: set an edge, whatever whatever to make the team win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you do. You mentioned it your side. You're six

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Speaker 1: two two sixty. You know a lot of guys playing

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Speaker 1: the edge. Now are six one two forty five. You're

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Speaker 1: a bigger edge Giants boarder a similar guy, Chauncey Golston,

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Speaker 1: who's also a bigger edge A little bit earlier in

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Speaker 1: free you can say, how do you utilize your size

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Speaker 1: and your length? Thirty three and the eighth in charms.

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Speaker 1: utilize your size and length to be an effective edge

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I like to set a lot of my stuff

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Speaker 2: with power, you know, send the edge with power, rushing

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Speaker 2: the passable power and a lot of people might overlook,

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Speaker 2: you know how like my speed sometimes based on my size,

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Speaker 2: but I feel like that gives me an edge on

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Speaker 2: special teams. Also, I like to bring out special teams

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Speaker 2: because you know, I kind of embrace that role also,

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Speaker 2: you know, defense and special teams. So whenever I'm on

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Speaker 2: special teams or defense, I try to set it with

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Speaker 2: power and then you know, we'll move on from there.

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Speaker 1: How do you utilize your length? Is that something where

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Speaker 1: when you sit in the edge, you're able to keep

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have long arms. I'm a shorter guy edge.

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Speaker 2: As far as the edge play, I'm a shorter guy.

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't really matter though, right, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Like, I feel like I have pretty long arms, so

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Speaker 2: when I go to power long arms set up anything

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Speaker 2: speed power, I like to set it up with my

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Speaker 2: I feel like that gives me an advantage when I'm

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Speaker 1: I was talking to Trauncy when he came in last

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Speaker 1: you do not let tight ends block you.

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Speaker 3: No, you can't get into it.

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Speaker 2: Now if a tight end blocks, y'all feel like you

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Speaker 2: mismatch in football, DN or a star linebacker versus a

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Speaker 2: like a demolition. It can't even be a close. It

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Speaker 2: can't even be a battle. You gotta win early. You

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Speaker 1: I like that. I like that all right, I'll get you.

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Speaker 1: Especially it's been a second. You're talking about the run

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Speaker 1: very effective in getting after the quarterback. What's you're kind

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Speaker 2: Like I say, I feel like a lot of people

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Speaker 2: I try to set my game up. You know, it

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Speaker 1: You were coached by Giants outside linebacker coach Charlie bowen

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Speaker 1: Don in Arizona. What is it about him and his

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when he hit me up during free agency, it

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Speaker 2: just being able to reunite with him, you know, I

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Speaker 1: How much, if at all, have you on passing downs

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Speaker 1: slid into playing a little through technique to rush the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I actually did a lot. I got a couple of

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Speaker 1: Know, nice one. Yeah. I feel like, yeah, I feel like.

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Speaker 2: I'm versatile enough to do that, you know, wherever the

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Speaker 1: How does your past rush plan change when you're going

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Speaker 2: You know, it comes with film study, but I also

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Speaker 2: like I'm not strong enough to go through them, and

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Speaker 2: I could do that, And then when they sit on

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Speaker 2: feel like it's kind of like it's a chess game

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Speaker 1: All right. I love the fact that you're the one

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Speaker 1: that kept trying to bring up special teams to me,

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Speaker 1: which I think is great. Talk about your core special

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Speaker 1: teamer first and foremost. You play, you play all the units.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think you're most effective in terms of

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Speaker 1: your best ball on specials.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've kind of grown to embrace the roller special

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Speaker 2: like become the player like I've become because special teams

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Speaker 1: So it's not glamorous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fact, so just the physical play on special teams,

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Speaker 2: like just the grime, the physical play and the constant

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Speaker 2: helps me translate to that grimy defensive style of play,

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Speaker 2: and I kind of embrace it on punt, you know,

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Speaker 2: a lot of outside linebackers, you know, you gotta play

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Speaker 1: Playing Specials help you work on your angles and working

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Speaker 1: How much does that help that part of your game?

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Speaker 1: Kind of managing space against faster, more athletic offensive guys.

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Speaker 2: Right, you going against skilled guys, guys running for twos

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Speaker 1: Also, I like it all right. You mentioned the football

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Speaker 2: New York was a good fit. I'm an East Coast

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Speaker 2: so it was a no brander. I mean, New York

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Speaker 2: So it was a no brander, just a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: I was a lot of things. Was checking the boxes

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Speaker 1: Were you a Ravens guy growing up in Baltimore?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I was.

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Speaker 1: I mean They've always had a great defense and now

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Speaker 1: trying to be part of an organization that really values

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Speaker 2: No, for sure. I just love defensive, aggressive defenses, you know,

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Speaker 2: I just like that type of defense, nasty, you know,

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Speaker 1: Are you excited to play like outside cold weather football again?

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Speaker 1: After spending four years at Arizota.

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Speaker 2: Arizona had some good weather, but I'm excited for switch up.

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Speaker 2: You know. I feel like New York I could adapt

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Speaker 2: I actually was here around this time last year.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Victor, good stuff, man. I can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: Jordan Humphrey, little Jordan, what's going on? Then?

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Speaker 3: Just kicking it, you know, excited to be here, happy

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Speaker 1: Why did you choose the Giants?

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Speaker 4: I wasn't the biggest Cowboys fan. But you know, the

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Speaker 3: That that great. So that's the reason why I want

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Speaker 1: All right, Lou Jordan, is that your given name or

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Speaker 1: Okay, because I was gonna say, you're not little. I

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Speaker 1: So six explain your style as a receiver for Giant fans.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm just I'm a physical presence out there.

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Speaker 4: I like to put hands on people. But when I

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Speaker 1: And I think one thing that jumped out to me

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Speaker 1: So you started your career with the Saints, you went

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Speaker 4: I like to think I'm smart sometimes, you know what

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Speaker 4: I don't mind getting doing the dirty work, and he

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Speaker 4: To play a wide receiver, it doesn't really matter to me.

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Speaker 4: I've done some gunner, some gunner on punt, did the

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Speaker 1: I always like talking about building a basketball team in

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Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, I feel like I can

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Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, very good.

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Speaker 1: All right. Finally you mentioned the city, crazy crazy city.

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Speaker 1: You don't see it never sleeps. What are some of

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Speaker 1: lest all right, I'm in New York now, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to go out and do this.

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Speaker 4: Uh, I don't know, maybe go to Adega or something

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Speaker 4: Not really, I guess I'm a big food guy. I

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Speaker 4: mean under society just experienced everything. See what's out there?

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Speaker 4: Like this is this is gonna be your first time

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 3: So it's gonna be I think it's gonna be awesome experience.

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Speaker 1: Well, dude, we're happy to have you. Thanks and that's

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Speaker 1: the walkman. Welcome on board, Thank you, Thank you do

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Speaker 1: It's football Giant Lott, Jordan Humphrey,