Speaker 1: My guest.
Speaker 2: Today's actress Tiffany Theeson. Her roles as Kelly Kapowski on
Speaker 2: Saved by the Bell where I was a PA by
Speaker 2: the Way, and Valerie Malone on Beverly Hill's nine oh
Speaker 2: two one Oho made her a teen idol. But these days,
Speaker 2: Tiffany is cooking up a storm on TikTok and her
Speaker 2: second cookbook, Here We Go Again, comes out September twenty sixth.
Speaker 2: This is just be with Tiffany Theeson. Let's get into it. Hi, Hi,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen you, and we're not. I guess we're
Speaker 2: not even allowed to talk about where we met, but
Speaker 2: we we met. It's so weird on a show that
Speaker 2: I was a PA on years ago on the beach
Speaker 2: and I met Tiffany during the summer when you were a.
Speaker 1: Kid, and we're talking about we're still chill.
Speaker 2: You're well, you're younger than I am, which doesn't seem
Speaker 2: as different now, but then you were. You seem like
Speaker 2: a kid because it was where I think I met you,
Speaker 2: and I was when do you when did one graduate college?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: If you really did go to college, I guess what
Speaker 1: twenty two? Right?
Speaker 2: So I guess twenty two? Yeah, yeah, Okay, So I
Speaker 2: met you when you were a kid, and I met
Speaker 2: your I remember your.
Speaker 1: Mom, and you were I just I can't believe how
Speaker 1: long ago that was.
Speaker 2: I met you, Mario Lopez, Elizabeth everyone, And now I've
Speaker 2: come across your paths so many times in modern adult life.
Speaker 2: And so now you're kind of like a sort of
Speaker 2: a chef. You have cookbooks and you're it's it's like
Speaker 2: a not a reinvention, but it's definitely a layer in
Speaker 2: addition to.
Speaker 3: I think you more than anybody can talk about that,
Speaker 3: you know, right, I mean, as women and as we
Speaker 3: do get older, and I think times are changing, we're
Speaker 3: constantly having to reinvent ourselves all the time.
Speaker 2: Well, it feels like you want, like, not like you
Speaker 2: have to. Like, you enjoy it, you like it, You're
Speaker 2: liking these new sort of like. I don't get the
Speaker 2: sense that you feel like you have to reinvent. I
Speaker 2: get the sense that you are just exploring other aspects
Speaker 2: of yourself because your previous life was one dimensional, linear,
Speaker 2: and now you've got all these things you get to
Speaker 2: do and be whatever you want.
Speaker 3: You're right, I mean, I'm very lucky to get to
Speaker 3: do things that I enjoy and make a living out
Speaker 3: of you know. So that's definitely something to be said
Speaker 3: right there. But I would agree that it was much
Speaker 3: more linear when I was younger, because it was like
Speaker 3: the focus and everything was put onto acting and all that,
Speaker 3: but food was always a side passion. I just didn't
Speaker 3: think that, especially at a young age, that I could
Speaker 3: make a living out of it, you know, like that's
Speaker 3: the thing. But I do believe as you get older
Speaker 3: that it is important to show other aspects of yours
Speaker 3: or passions or loves because it's it grows you as
Speaker 3: a person. But also, you know, I think it's important
Speaker 3: to show different sides of yourself. Again, I'm very lucky
Speaker 3: to say that I can do that as a career.
Speaker 2: You know, well, what do your kids think you are
Speaker 2: if they're talking to their friends, like what does your
Speaker 2: mom do? Because I'm sure they see you on TikTok.
Speaker 1: And well it's different.
Speaker 3: My kids are both they're five years apart, so they're
Speaker 3: very vastly different in the way they see the world
Speaker 3: and how they're going through school. And so I have
Speaker 3: a teenager and I have, you know, a young eight
Speaker 3: year old.
Speaker 1: My eight year.
Speaker 3: Old has grown up where he never watched my shows,
Speaker 3: so he always only saw that I was doing cooking.
Speaker 3: He says, he goes, Mom, you're a cooker. That's what
Speaker 3: you do for a living, a cooker.
Speaker 1: That's so funny, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Or now he calls it, that's what he used to
Speaker 1: say when he was little.
Speaker 3: I mean, he knows, you know, he's better at his
Speaker 3: English now, but but you know, he's like, you know,
Speaker 3: you show people how to cook.
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3: I kind of do I inspire people, you know, That's
Speaker 3: what I tell him. But when he was little, it
Speaker 3: was like, you're a cooker. My daughter was on set
Speaker 3: with me and since a very very young age. That
Speaker 3: was a show that I was actually shooting in New
Speaker 3: York City, and so she was like a set baby,
Speaker 3: so she totally saw me as an actress. So she
Speaker 3: always knew and then my past as she's gotten older,
Speaker 3: she's watched a lot of those shows now because she's thirteen,
Speaker 3: and so she sees that that was my you know,
Speaker 3: my sort of bigger career in what I've done my.
Speaker 2: Whole life, and what do you think the path will hold? Like,
Speaker 2: where do you do you see yourself? Doing both, Like
Speaker 2: where do you see yourself? What road going on?
Speaker 1: Both roads?
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I've been able to be a I've
Speaker 3: been very fortunate to be able to do both. No
Speaker 3: one's working right now, right, Nor are my friends who
Speaker 3: are stylist and wardrobe stylist and krum and makeup and
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. So no one's working right now.
Speaker 3: But but no, it's my first love. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: it's it's kind of like your first child, right, It's
Speaker 3: it's sort of that that sort of very precious, sacred
Speaker 3: career that I have a lot of, uh a lot
Speaker 3: of love and respect for and I still enjoy it.
Speaker 3: And the fact that I've been able to sort of
Speaker 3: continue and do many different roles as I was, you know,
Speaker 3: starting at a young adult and teenager. Up until the
Speaker 3: last one I was playing a mom, which you know,
Speaker 3: my daughter loved that show. Like, you know, it's it's
Speaker 3: cool to say that I'm still doing it. But again, like,
Speaker 3: no one's doing it right now, So I hope you
Speaker 3: can all, you know, go back.
Speaker 2: But do you feel well, do you feel anxiety about it?
Speaker 2: I mean, thank god you have something else that you do,
Speaker 2: but you definitely didn't think that was going to be
Speaker 2: the key.
Speaker 3: So I think because I have something else, another outlet,
Speaker 3: another sort of area that I love and I do make,
Speaker 3: you know, I can, I can make and pay the
Speaker 3: bills from that, I don't have as much pressure, if
Speaker 3: that makes sense, Like I don't have to take roles
Speaker 3: that I may not want to take roles, and I
Speaker 3: can be I feel like I can be a little
Speaker 3: more picky, and I have been for a while. So
Speaker 3: you've been picky.
Speaker 2: Even before you've been pit you were picky, and now
Speaker 2: this is like an.
Speaker 3: I wasn't always picky, but I feel like as I've
Speaker 3: gotten older, I can be picky to a certain degree,
Speaker 3: right because I have other areas and you've worked.
Speaker 2: That's me now, Like I really can say I don't
Speaker 2: do anything I don't want to do, but you're also
Speaker 2: fit two years old.
Speaker 3: I feel I feel like that in everything in my life.
Speaker 3: I say I say that about friends. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna be with.
Speaker 2: Friends same like, same same, and I'm not gonna eat
Speaker 2: things I don't like and I'm not gonna Yeah, you
Speaker 2: get that way, which is why it's interesting people who
Speaker 2: stay single, it's harder for them to get into relationships
Speaker 2: older because you get set in your ways. There are
Speaker 2: just things that you will like dig your heels in
Speaker 2: on and and I don't think that that's spoiled or entitled.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's definitely fortunate.
Speaker 3: And just know yourself and you know what you want,
Speaker 3: and you know what you stand for, and you know
Speaker 3: what works for you. I mean, there's many reasons why
Speaker 3: you're like that.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh yes, But I mean that like in your
Speaker 2: thirty I couldn't have afforded to do that in my thirties,
Speaker 2: Like I just couldn't financially afford it, and even didn't
Speaker 2: feel like I could in my forties. So I guess
Speaker 2: it's a hard balance for a woman to decide, you know,
Speaker 2: when you're gonna have kids, when you're gonna work. Because
Speaker 2: I have a friend who was worried that her daughter's
Speaker 2: killing herself working so hard in her twenties and like
Speaker 2: has no social life.
Speaker 1: I'm like, who gives a shit?
Speaker 2: Work your ass off, make money, get on some sort
Speaker 2: of a road, you know, so you could set yourself
Speaker 2: up so later you can make independent decisions totally.
Speaker 3: And I think that's the thing that sort of has
Speaker 3: been happening for a while, is that we are working
Speaker 3: earlier and then settling for you know, marriages and kids
Speaker 3: and all that later, right, I mean that's how I was.
Speaker 1: I was much yeah, and I had all that.
Speaker 2: I was watching a show where a woman asked another
Speaker 2: woman about career and the balance and when you get married,
Speaker 2: like giving up your career and wanting to have kids,
Speaker 2: and it is really it's so cliche, but it is
Speaker 2: a very challenging thing for a woman to do the
Speaker 2: dance because you want to be there for your kids
Speaker 2: when you're young, but you also don't want to give
Speaker 2: up a career because you know.
Speaker 3: It's not so much marriage, right, because I was married
Speaker 3: five years before we started having kids, and really there
Speaker 3: wasn't a massive shift then, right, It wasn't really until
Speaker 3: children came a part of that sort of relationship that
Speaker 3: children do change.
Speaker 1: They change, you know, they change both of you. That's
Speaker 1: the thing.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're saying, the marriage isn't the thing. It's the children.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. It's having children, even on your own
Speaker 2: or with someone.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Do so you you you did you plan to have
Speaker 2: such time between your kids. I don't want to say
Speaker 2: I don't like to say accident, but like I ask
Speaker 2: that question.
Speaker 1: So we definitely wanted wanted to wait. We we definitely
Speaker 1: wanted to wait.
Speaker 3: And I think a little bit, I'll be totally honest,
Speaker 3: was wanting to make sure that maybe I had a
Speaker 3: job that was secure enough hence a TV show at
Speaker 3: the time, that I would be able to get pregnant
Speaker 3: and they'd be like, that's okay, we can build it
Speaker 3: into the show or.
Speaker 2: You know, that's back to what we're talking about exactly.
Speaker 2: You had to it's so interesting. You didn't want to
Speaker 2: be like auditioning while pregnant, and then it.
Speaker 1: So hard to do that.
Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to do that, and then you know,
Speaker 3: as you know, your body changes so much and it's
Speaker 3: you know, the pregnancy to me is always I had
Speaker 3: very easy pregnancies, and I know not every woman has that.
Speaker 1: It's always the for me.
Speaker 3: It was after it was that first six months after
Speaker 3: that my body was just in my emotions and my
Speaker 3: head and all of that was the hardest. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: it was hard having a job and having to go
Speaker 3: because I went right back to work six weeks later.
Speaker 2: Well, it emotionally, it tears you up. Physically and emotionally too.
Speaker 2: Completely you feel complete time.
Speaker 3: But I'm glad the show that I had. I'm glad
Speaker 3: I had that show at that time. It was it
Speaker 3: couldn't have been more perfect in that sense. Yes it
Speaker 3: was hard, Yes, you know, I had to fly and
Speaker 3: move back to New York and all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 3: which was hard. But I was lucky enough to have
Speaker 3: my mother come and live with us, my husband and
Speaker 3: I and help us the entire time, which I look
Speaker 3: back and say, how blessed we were to have, Like
Speaker 3: my mom and my daughter had this amazing bond because
Speaker 3: of all that time they got to spend together, you know.
Speaker 1: And what does your husband do? What businesses he is?
Speaker 3: He's an actor as well, but also he has another
Speaker 3: career too. So his main career now is he's an
Speaker 3: illustrator and author for children's books and is creating you know,
Speaker 3: graphic novels which is being developed into a TV show
Speaker 3: right now. So he's you know, taken another huge part
Speaker 3: of his talent and shifted completely into a whole nother
Speaker 3: into a whole nother side, which has been really fun.
Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting? Though?
Speaker 2: The pandemic just as a concept kind of introduced us
Speaker 2: to the snow globe being shaken up and it being
Speaker 2: anxiety producing. But then if you really go look for
Speaker 2: the fish, they're just in a different place. And so
Speaker 2: what you're going through is sort of like an extent
Speaker 2: of that, you know, like it's like you have another big, big,
Speaker 2: gigantic seismic shift in your career. But yeah, leaning into
Speaker 2: other things, and who knows where the fish are. I mean,
Speaker 2: this will be an interesting.
Speaker 3: Who knows what's going to happen even after this, and
Speaker 3: there might be a third, one, fourth one. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't know, right, Yeah, I'm getting act with me
Speaker 3: soon and I'm going to be starting a whole nother chapter,
Speaker 3: you know, in my life again, and so I'm excited.
Speaker 1: And I've said this before. It's funny.
Speaker 3: It's like, I think I feel more settled going into
Speaker 3: my fifties than I even did.
Speaker 1: When I was in my forties, which I know, it's
Speaker 1: interesting to me.
Speaker 3: I never thought that I would feel that way, but
Speaker 3: I think, and I've I say this, I think it's
Speaker 3: because I was having kids right in my late thirties
Speaker 3: early forties that I wasn't settled yet because there was
Speaker 3: so much going on emotionally, physically. It was all about them.
Speaker 3: I probably wasn't putting a lot of time on myself.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, where now my kids are a little older
Speaker 3: and they're a little more settled, and I can come
Speaker 3: back to myself and put a lot more time and
Speaker 3: effort into me.
Speaker 2: You know, well, I think that might also be why people,
Speaker 2: you know, a midlife crisis goes on, because you get
Speaker 2: a lot of time to think about what this all is.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I've exactly had mine, but
Speaker 2: I know that because you get older, it's a little
Speaker 2: more boring. Like I'm not social, I don't really do much,
Speaker 2: not going out getting wasted and like you know, meet
Speaker 2: and guy like so you're kind of just the career
Speaker 2: thing is really something that gives you something to kind
Speaker 2: of get excited about highs and loos, like, you know,
Speaker 2: to invest in. Otherwise you're just kind of just going through.
Speaker 3: And then because your kids are a little more subtled,
Speaker 3: they're not needing you as much, right, they're not babies, And.
Speaker 1: Your identity can be that.
Speaker 2: Your identity can be that for so many people like
Speaker 2: you gotta make lunch and we gotta do the costumes
Speaker 2: and you got to get back, you know, and right now,
Speaker 2: like back to school, obviously it's happening in your house too,
Speaker 2: and that's like that's main character energy right now, back
Speaker 2: to school. You know, my daughter physically is going through
Speaker 2: something and she's feeling slightly you know, you have kids,
Speaker 2: so you know, I don't want to go too bar
Speaker 2: into it, but slightly insecure. And we're doing back to
Speaker 2: school and I want to be you know, she wants
Speaker 2: to go back in like feeling confident. And so that's
Speaker 2: a conversation in the house. And then you know that
Speaker 2: age of like what are they doing?
Speaker 1: Are they kissing? Are they going to think about drinking?
Speaker 1: Are they smoking? What the hell is going on?
Speaker 3: Yeah, like all the fond and the social media, which
Speaker 3: my daughter doesn't have yet, but it's a conversation that
Speaker 3: is being asked and talked about a lot.
Speaker 2: And the influence the filters and who they're looking at
Speaker 2: and what they think is cool, and like it's hard
Speaker 2: to tell a thirteen year old like you don't want
Speaker 2: to do what everybody else does, Like that's just like
Speaker 2: something but that's just.
Speaker 1: Not part of it.
Speaker 3: And I have to remind myself that too, because I
Speaker 3: remember myself literally having to figure that out, right, Like yes,
Speaker 3: it's the time where you really do have to figure
Speaker 3: that out. And following trends is part of it, Like
Speaker 3: following others is part of it.
Speaker 1: And that's about following trends.
Speaker 3: Well she's not on it, but yes, but yes, but
Speaker 3: I know she's seen it in other places.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, my name was Bethany and I wanted it
Speaker 2: to be Jennifer desperately. I rather were so I just
Speaker 2: did not want my name to be like this weird
Speaker 2: different name. I was not into that funny yeah, like
Speaker 2: it wasn't now like now the names of her friends
Speaker 2: are so interesting and I haven't heard one name that
Speaker 2: I've ever heard of.
Speaker 1: Every name is like.
Speaker 2: Eira and like Paloma and Ciara, like everybody's got this
Speaker 2: exotic Brazilian sports illustrated model name. And we were like Rachel, Jennifer,
Speaker 2: Karen John like so, yeah, the creativity and self expression
Speaker 2: is very different now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I get the sense that you're it's funny because
Speaker 2: you're so known for being like this like young, hot bombshell,
Speaker 2: and you don't. You are beautiful, you always have been,
Speaker 2: but you lean now into like mom being mom being
Speaker 2: natural and like caring as much.
Speaker 1: But that's my thing. I think. It's not that I
Speaker 1: don't care, right, because I do. I do care, but.
Speaker 3: It's more of it's more of a feeling than it
Speaker 3: is what it's exuding on the outside.
Speaker 1: You know, I get it, I do, right, I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You see, I'm.
Speaker 3: Putting on a little concealer this morning, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's that's a little new right there, you know.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I really try.
Speaker 3: And it's not I'm not perfect every day those days
Speaker 3: that I go deep, but I really try on an overall,
Speaker 3: just say to myself, I've earned that. I've earned a
Speaker 3: little of this. I've earned this for really good reasons.
Speaker 3: For being concerned about my children. Okay, that's a good
Speaker 3: reason to have some of those wrinkles. To laugh with
Speaker 3: my kids and my husband and my friends and my family,
Speaker 3: those are great reasons to have those wrinkles.
Speaker 1: Interesting that you think of.
Speaker 2: It, I've heard other people say that what goes what
Speaker 2: goes on with me is like for one thing, I've
Speaker 2: always been a person that would rather feel healthy then
Speaker 2: look good, So meaning if my face is covered in
Speaker 2: make I will I'll feel dirty, like it's just the
Speaker 2: thing for me, and I know it's trapping my pores,
Speaker 2: and so I'll be like fresh faced and not looking
Speaker 2: as good and then I'll put on makeup with it.
Speaker 1: Oh God, look at you.
Speaker 2: And I like the way I feel better the other
Speaker 2: way because I just feel clean and healthy. But what's
Speaker 2: really happening at this age? I feel it happened yesterday
Speaker 2: I put on this We're just going for a beechwalk.
Speaker 2: No one sees this, but I have this cute, like
Speaker 2: roughly bikini and I put it on yesterday and it
Speaker 2: just felt like a little ill fitting. It fit, but
Speaker 2: it just didn't feel like it fit the same way,
Speaker 2: and I didn't feel like I looked the same.
Speaker 1: And I just felt like a little And it's not
Speaker 1: overly revealing.
Speaker 2: I just felt a little desperate to myself. I'm not
Speaker 2: seeing one per I looked at it and I felt
Speaker 2: a little desperate, like what are you wearing?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: And it wasn't being mean to myself and like I
Speaker 2: don't look good. It was just like I want to
Speaker 2: wear what like a woman my age is wearing? Like
Speaker 2: I know, it felt like a little old, but it
Speaker 2: also felt a little right. It just felt like I
Speaker 2: want to put on a nice, elegant one piece and
Speaker 2: be a woman that wears an eye delligan one piece.
Speaker 3: I don't and I've been doing the one piece for
Speaker 3: a while so and I am totally a okay with it.
Speaker 1: But you you could wear you could wear a bikini.
Speaker 1: You just don't want.
Speaker 3: I mean, we all could wear bikinis. But I mean,
Speaker 3: but I mean, but you would. I'm supposed to be
Speaker 3: completely okay with whatever, you know, like I do love
Speaker 3: that we're the whole self love and really trying to
Speaker 3: accept what we are.
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I I I think one piece is hot.
Speaker 1: I know, by the way, so do I.
Speaker 2: But I just mean that there was like an acceptance
Speaker 2: and I know I look good in the beginning. I
Speaker 2: could wear a bikini right now. No one would care.
Speaker 2: Like if you took my head off and didn't know
Speaker 2: how old I was, it would be fine. It was
Speaker 2: just this feeling of like this is where I am,
Speaker 2: and I like this, Like I like being a woman,
Speaker 2: is what I'm saying. I like being a woman as
Speaker 2: two years old.
Speaker 1: I liked it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 3: I told you to your point, Like I said, I
Speaker 3: feel much more so and going into my fifties, and
Speaker 3: I really do feel like I was going into my forties,
Speaker 3: which is odd, But I do think a lot of
Speaker 3: that has to do with just you know, hormones and
Speaker 3: emotions and you know, having kids in my forty early
Speaker 3: forties and stuff and being that all that is kind
Speaker 3: of back there. I'm settled now, like this is my
Speaker 3: next phase and I'm feeling good about myself. I'm embracing
Speaker 3: I'm turning fifty. I'm not scared of it, and I
Speaker 3: see that in myself differently, like that even than I
Speaker 3: was when I was in my forties. Again, like I'm
Speaker 3: spending time because I feel like I can now a
Speaker 3: little bit right. It's not just about my kids, and
Speaker 3: I want to show that to my kids. I want
Speaker 3: to show that it's important to put your own self,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: It feels like it's in a nurturing way versus a
Speaker 2: superficial like you're not running to boot camp and taking
Speaker 2: a care of yourself to be like ritten, no, no, But.
Speaker 3: I've always gone to the gym, I've always worked out.
Speaker 3: I've always been very athletic and always trying to healthy
Speaker 3: and take care of myself.
Speaker 1: But you know, I've made a.
Speaker 3: Few little changes here and there, like I'm just I'm
Speaker 3: not drinking as much, which I feel better not drinking
Speaker 3: as much, saying yeah, you know, so that's been one
Speaker 3: of the biggest changes. Between that and like, you know,
Speaker 3: I've been very vocal about ice plunging. I've been doing
Speaker 3: that for a while and it's really changed my life.
Speaker 3: So tell me why. Well, I mean, there's so many reasons,
Speaker 3: but I would say for myself, it started. I threw
Speaker 3: up my back actually right before Christmas last December, and
Speaker 3: I have to say, like, I'm not I'm not a
Speaker 3: person who struggles with depression or I'm a pretty optimistic person.
Speaker 3: I really am, but it put me into a really,
Speaker 3: really dark place. And I can understand when people have
Speaker 3: something like that happen, or they're not able to do
Speaker 3: their every day it's it's debilitating mentally and physically, right,
Speaker 3: And so you know, I've talked about this story where
Speaker 3: I was trying to do everything I was supposed to
Speaker 3: do right, and you know, I had to lay off
Speaker 3: the gym, which was depressing in itself. I couldn't do
Speaker 3: the normal things with my kids. I was literally in
Speaker 3: bed trying to like I sit, and he didn't go
Speaker 3: into my chiropractor and you know, doing all these things
Speaker 3: that I needed to do. And it was one time
Speaker 3: I went to my chiropractor and I really put a
Speaker 3: lot of credit into him, doctor Gregg, and he literally
Speaker 3: said to me, and he's known me longer than my husband,
Speaker 3: and he goes, you know, I've never seen you this dark.
Speaker 3: You walked in here with like a dark, rainy cloud
Speaker 3: over you. He's like, I've never seen you like that.
Speaker 3: And I go, but you don't understand. He goes, no,
Speaker 3: I do understand, I said, But he goes, You're not
Speaker 3: going to change anything. All this work that you're trying
Speaker 3: to do is not going to change until you change
Speaker 3: your attitude. He goes, You've got to literally do a shift.
Speaker 3: He goes, your mind is not going to help your
Speaker 3: body if you're completely in the dark. And so it
Speaker 3: was a huge mind shift of just kind of like, Okay,
Speaker 3: this is this is what's.
Speaker 1: Happening right now.
Speaker 3: Maybe my back being thrown out was a little sign
Speaker 3: telling me to slow the f down, right, Like, I'm
Speaker 3: really trying to shift my mind into everything tries I
Speaker 3: try to believe everything happens for a reason. And then
Speaker 3: I just started taking care of myself. And my brother
Speaker 3: in law and sister in law are big health people
Speaker 3: and they've been icing for you know, doing ice bass
Speaker 3: for five years, like before it became popular, and so
Speaker 3: we were going to see them, and I knew that
Speaker 3: I would be able to start doing that again because
Speaker 3: they do it all the time at their house.
Speaker 1: And I have a cold plunge pool. I don't really
Speaker 1: use it. I have a bun one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a plunge too, But this is like
Speaker 3: old school icing like ice. You go in ice with
Speaker 3: a little bit of water, which bathtub and like literally
Speaker 3: stock tanks, like the metal big stock tanks.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Oh, you don't even need to have the seed or thing.
Speaker 2: You're just saying, like go into like a bin like
Speaker 2: a thing.
Speaker 3: You can do it on your bathtub too, but it's
Speaker 3: like getting all the ice from the store and literally
Speaker 3: putting it in like old school sports.
Speaker 1: Way, right, So you get all the ice from a
Speaker 1: store and you do it this way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do it this way. But I also
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, I do have a plunge now, which
Speaker 3: is awesome because it's okay you can just walk out
Speaker 3: and do it. But what I'm saying is I started
Speaker 3: doing that again with them, and I brought it back
Speaker 3: to LA and I literally sort of doing it all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 1: And it what's all the time? Like every day?
Speaker 3: Well now I wasn't doing it every day, but I
Speaker 3: was probably doing it four times a week, which is
Speaker 3: what I'm still doing now with the plunge.
Speaker 2: And how three to five minutes Okay, laarired Hamilton is
Speaker 2: very big into this. Yeah, yeah, and Gabby and so
Speaker 2: three to five minutes and what goes on?
Speaker 1: What goes on?
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's hard, it's it's uh, it's
Speaker 3: mentally challenging, which I like, yes, But I think the
Speaker 3: biggest thing besides it helping my back for obvious reasons, right,
Speaker 3: anti inflammatory and everything, the dopamine effect that I get
Speaker 3: from it is like nothing else. And they and there's
Speaker 3: and there's research showing like you know, wine can give
Speaker 3: you a little bit of a kick of dopamine. Drugs
Speaker 3: can do the same thing, but it drops, right, you
Speaker 3: have the little high of a wine, you know, I
Speaker 3: have a glass of wine, but it drops massively. It
Speaker 3: becomes a depressant, right say, with drugs you know, ice
Speaker 3: bathing doesn't do that. It keeps going for a couple
Speaker 3: hours and then it gradually goes back to normal instead
Speaker 3: of dropping. So that's why you feel like when you
Speaker 3: get out of those, you feel like you can like
Speaker 3: climb Mount Everest.
Speaker 1: You know. Wow, I don't know if you ever feel
Speaker 1: that ud Like, well, no, I passed out.
Speaker 2: I have very, very drastic low blood pressure, to the
Speaker 2: point where if I sleep eight hours, I'm so dehydrated
Speaker 2: my blood pressure crashes. I can't even stand up. So wow,
Speaker 2: I want I've gone into so I used to live
Speaker 2: for sauna for cold plunge, even for just a second,
Speaker 2: not like three minutes, but I went into it. I
Speaker 2: have twice I fainted and I didn't know why. But
Speaker 2: I fainted in a cryo tank. I just dropped to
Speaker 2: the floor. So I don't think I can do it because.
Speaker 1: It's so extreme.
Speaker 2: Probably not, And it sucks because I would. I mean
Speaker 2: that seems I also run cold, like I'm always cold.
Speaker 2: But like that, I'm so jealous, Like I want I
Speaker 2: have a sauna, I don't use it. I have a
Speaker 2: cold plunge. I don't use it because I just it's
Speaker 2: too extreme, but hard for you. Yeah, yeah, but you
Speaker 2: do your face too.
Speaker 1: No, No, it's funny. I keep reading how much it's
Speaker 1: great for your face my face.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I've been seeing like on TikTok where people put
Speaker 3: the straws and they put their face in ice, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: Okay, I could do the face.
Speaker 2: I would like to do the face. That's well, good
Speaker 2: for you. I just love hearing about things like that.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 1: And are you vain? Am I vain?
Speaker 3: I don't feel like I am, but vain in one
Speaker 3: said so myself like things that I like?
Speaker 1: You thinking that, I mean, things that I want, Like
Speaker 1: what do you like get?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Are you thinking about your appearance? A lot of thinking
Speaker 2: about your body and your face and your skin.
Speaker 3: And it's funny. I again, I think about it. But
Speaker 3: I feel in a healthier way than I did in
Speaker 3: my thirties and forties.
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 3: I understand because you're running around in so like I said,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm looking and I'm like, okay, there's there's
Speaker 3: you know, I'm getting. You know, I'm seeing it, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, but that's okay, Like you know, I literally
Speaker 3: say this, like I feel good.
Speaker 1: I feel good for almost being fifty. I feel good,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if I always constantly said that
Speaker 3: to myself and thirties and forties, which is sad.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I did.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I did. I probably didn't. I didn't,
Speaker 2: I probably didn't. And we have so many things.
Speaker 3: I look back at pictures and I look at myself
Speaker 3: and I go, I remember not feeling great, and I'm
Speaker 3: looking at it now and I'm like, that was stupid.
Speaker 2: I know it's right. He's wasted on the young. Youth
Speaker 2: has wasted on the young one hundred percent. Do you
Speaker 2: do you care about filler and botox?
Speaker 1: And I don't. I don't.
Speaker 3: I've been really good about trying to take care of
Speaker 3: myself and I'm not against it because I have lots
Speaker 3: of friends who do it, and I'm not saying I
Speaker 3: never will do it, but I've been really trying to
Speaker 3: age gracefully naturally. Who knows how long it'll hold up?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, But what does your husband say about it?
Speaker 1: Whatever makes you?
Speaker 3: I mean, he's not he's not that kind of guy
Speaker 3: at all, so and he he's very I don't want
Speaker 3: to say old school, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like he's just he's just he's not at all, Like
Speaker 3: the guy doesn't even half the time. I have to
Speaker 3: remind him to shave even you know, get a haircut,
Speaker 3: so get a No, he's just so not that he's
Speaker 3: like the opposite, and which is funny because he is
Speaker 3: an actor, but he's very much not that way. Like
Speaker 3: I literally have to Like he's doing some videos right
Speaker 3: now for a company doing art and they made him
Speaker 3: go get a manicure and he's like, do I have
Speaker 3: to do this every week?
Speaker 1: I mean its hilarious.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well okay, So I want to talk about leftover. So
Speaker 2: you've always been into cooking and food, but leftovers is
Speaker 2: like a niche for you.
Speaker 1: Well it is. It's funny.
Speaker 3: The idea came during COVID, like literally the start of COVID,
Speaker 3: when we weren't going to the grocery store as much
Speaker 3: because everybody was so afraid of it, right, and so
Speaker 3: it kind of put me back into that sort of
Speaker 3: thought process that I was like, you know, I was
Speaker 3: actually raised like this. This is what my mom used
Speaker 3: to do because we didn't come from a lot of money,
Speaker 3: so my mom was always trying to stretch food for
Speaker 3: the entire week. So the roasted chicken that she made
Speaker 3: on Monday, she was putting it into enchiladas on Tuesday,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it was always trying
Speaker 3: to repurpose something.
Speaker 1: I just didn't marry that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so because but it was truly because we didn't
Speaker 3: have a lot of money, and then we were kind
Speaker 3: of forced to do that same sort of thing because
Speaker 3: we just weren't going to the grocery store. So I
Speaker 3: would really try to come up with a lot of
Speaker 3: different things that I could then make into many different
Speaker 3: dishes as we were starting COVID and not going to
Speaker 3: the grocery store. And so it made me think, like,
Speaker 3: you know, I've really tried to teach my kids about
Speaker 3: food waste. I do believe that it's one of the
Speaker 3: biggest contributors to global warming.
Speaker 1: I really do. There's massive research.
Speaker 3: It says right now, you know, the studies show that
Speaker 3: we we literally almost take away, you know, about forty
Speaker 3: percent of food. And you know, like we go to
Speaker 3: the grocery store five bags of food we're dropping too
Speaker 3: in the trash.
Speaker 1: Like it's.
Speaker 2: I don't either, I'm really very if we go out
Speaker 2: we love my daughter and I love to explore and
Speaker 2: we're big foodies. But I'll say, and we can order
Speaker 2: as much as we want, but we'll take it home.
Speaker 2: We'll take it other things. I'll make sure. I'll make
Speaker 2: life saut. I'll take a side of broccoli that I
Speaker 2: wanted to have a couple of bites of and then
Speaker 2: make it into an egg whitelm at the next I'm
Speaker 2: very like the roast chicken.
Speaker 1: Becomes a soup.
Speaker 2: But I had a doctor tell me that leftovers, not
Speaker 2: just because of the reduction and nutritional value, but for
Speaker 2: people with autoimmune aren't good, and it really broke my heart.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, it's not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like there's some science behind taking food home. And
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the difference in the storage
Speaker 2: or the back to I don't know, but I was disappointed,
Speaker 2: but I still don't so sorry.
Speaker 3: So you got to I believe that there's massive importance
Speaker 3: to it on a bigger global level, and also teaching
Speaker 3: my children, which I'm huge, you know about about just
Speaker 3: not wasting. And so I said, you know, there's a
Speaker 3: book here. There's a different kind of cookbook that I
Speaker 3: don't feel like I've ever seen before where it shows
Speaker 3: people what they can do with already things that they
Speaker 3: have in their fridge, their pantries. So whether it is
Speaker 3: the leftover chicken, or whether it is that little bit
Speaker 3: of buttermilk that you bought for a recipe that you
Speaker 3: have no idea what to do with and it gets wasted,
Speaker 3: or that the ships that are broken at the bottom
Speaker 3: of the bag that my kids are like, they're broken,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to eat them. Well, I can show
Speaker 3: you something to do with them, right, So it's stuff
Speaker 3: like that to really kind of think outside the box
Speaker 3: a little bit of the things that are already there,
Speaker 3: to really show that you can get creative in a
Speaker 3: whole different way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I love that.
Speaker 2: I love when I see good uses of that too.
Speaker 2: I love when I see like those companies that do
Speaker 2: the broken canoli shells and then the cannoli came outside.
Speaker 1: That's the dip, because you know that came out of invention.
Speaker 2: Stacey's Pita Chips. That's how it started. She had a
Speaker 2: sandwich stand with her brother in Chicago. I think it
Speaker 2: was it was freezing and the one thing they overbought
Speaker 2: every day wasn't the meats and the vegetables was the
Speaker 2: peeda because you can't run out of bread for sandwiches,
Speaker 2: and so they would start making petas and that became
Speaker 2: the thing that they were successful at, not the sandwich.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you never know what it's going to be. Love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she sold her company for two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty million dollars and it was the You know, it's
Speaker 2: so funny because I mention her all the time. She
Speaker 2: must be like, this woman's obsessed with me. He's on
Speaker 2: the podcast years ago. But I tell her, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: it's an amazing story. It's a totally amazing story. And
Speaker 2: I and I agree, like it's it's something I feel
Speaker 2: like everybody can relate to, and and and then a
Speaker 2: whole other side of it. My husband is one of
Speaker 2: those people, and I know there are some people like
Speaker 2: that who hate leftovers. And so it was kind of
Speaker 2: my sort of a funny little game that I would
Speaker 2: play where I would take something that he had no
Speaker 2: idea was left over and make something new and totally
Speaker 2: trick him. And he would always be like, I don't
Speaker 2: want that anymore. I don't want the leftover bloody blow
Speaker 2: from last night. You know, Yes, But then I just
Speaker 2: wouldn't tell him, and then he would have no idea
Speaker 2: because some people are left over, you know, they're they're ashamed,
Speaker 2: or they just don't like the look of it, or
Speaker 2: it feels like it's going to be gross tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I think it's more like people have either touched her.
Speaker 1: I don't know, he's weird.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, but I get that it is
Speaker 2: there's something that can be gnarley, but you can like
Speaker 2: refresh like fresh greens.
Speaker 1: Make it by of the book. Yeah, that's of the book.
Speaker 3: So anyways, that's sort of how the spark of the
Speaker 3: idea started. And then I really wanted to kind of
Speaker 3: shoot it in a way that was very nostalgic for
Speaker 3: me growing up in the seventies and eighties, and and
Speaker 3: so I wanted it to be where people, you know,
Speaker 3: if our age, would look at it and be like,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, my grandmother had that wallpaper, and my
Speaker 3: grandmother had that mixing bowl, and my mom used to totally
Speaker 3: have that you know, serving set and things like that
Speaker 3: to kind of, you know, give a little model yes corning, well, yes,
Speaker 3: all of it. You'll see all of it in the book. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that.
Speaker 2: Did did TikTok like, so enter TikTok that was recent
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: And very recent. I thought I was too old.
Speaker 3: For it to be like I did. I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm too old for this. Instagram's perfect for me and Facebook.
Speaker 3: I don't need another platform. But then I saw the
Speaker 3: blow up of food.
Speaker 1: That was happening on TikTok.
Speaker 3: Yes, and now I'm hooked and I love seeing some
Speaker 3: of the food that's happening. And they were like, you've
Speaker 3: got to get on this. I'm like, okay, all right,
Speaker 3: I'll add another one to me.
Speaker 2: And you're on food Talk mostly you're seeing Food Company.
Speaker 3: Most of my stuff is no. I mean, I would
Speaker 3: say it's a little bit of both. I mean, I
Speaker 3: know it's important probably to be funny and do trends,
Speaker 3: and I like showing my like, you know, my funny
Speaker 3: side and stuff like that. And so and then my
Speaker 3: daughter will every now and then engrace her presence at
Speaker 3: if she gets you know, if she gets me the
Speaker 3: okay to do it, because that's.
Speaker 1: What she likes it.
Speaker 3: I think she does. Yeah, she's done a couple with me.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's funny, Like I said, she
Speaker 3: has to give me clearance.
Speaker 1: She has to have approval, which you know, I'm glad.
Speaker 3: She has a voice and she's telling me, and then
Speaker 3: I have to let her know that I'm posting it
Speaker 3: because a lot of her friends, of course, have social
Speaker 3: media and she doesn't.
Speaker 1: So I just want her prepared when she goes to school.
Speaker 1: It's so true.
Speaker 2: And a lot of her friends are your fans now
Speaker 2: that wouldn't even have known of you, which is weird
Speaker 2: because you go on the street and you have thirteen
Speaker 2: year olds come up to you, which happens to me.
Speaker 2: And also we're like the losers, like our kids are
Speaker 2: not even on it as much as we are.
Speaker 1: We are those moms that are like dorks that are.
Speaker 2: Doing TikTok and you know what I mean, it's like
Speaker 2: it's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: I mean it's embarrassing. You know, it's fun.
Speaker 2: But I'm just like, I know, Brinn, I'm doing a TikTok.
Speaker 1: Right, I know, it's true, it's very fun. I never
Speaker 1: thought I would, but here here I am. It's the reverse, okay.
Speaker 2: So I always find out interesting things about people on
Speaker 2: those lists, like things you don't know about me, so
Speaker 2: packing a car, like but are you good at packing
Speaker 2: everything or just packing that car.
Speaker 1: I mean I am so type a. Literally. My husband
Speaker 1: will bring everything down and then I pack it. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like jinga, oh I got it. Yeah. Two
Speaker 1: kids like that too, And is your daughter like sure, no,
Speaker 1: not at all?
Speaker 3: Oh my kids are I think both my kids, I
Speaker 3: think are a little more like my husband.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, oh really no my daughters and then gets
Speaker 2: it and then forgets it, you know, like he's like
Speaker 2: I forgot my sunglasses when we were in Hawaii and
Speaker 2: I was like, really, are you serious?
Speaker 3: But he you know, like I make lists. I have
Speaker 3: lists that are on going my pack. You know, that's
Speaker 3: just who I am. I'm my packing list. Same yeah,
Speaker 3: but I do it with everything, whether it's groceries or
Speaker 3: or to do lists or whatever it is. I'm very yes.
Speaker 3: I mean, my husband makes fun of the fact that
Speaker 3: I'm so anal, but you know that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: And I've read that you love so you love Thrive
Speaker 2: Miscaret's your favorite.
Speaker 1: I do very good.
Speaker 3: I like that very I But I'll tell you having
Speaker 3: a teenage daughter, I'm learning about makeup even more now
Speaker 3: because I feel like I'm so set in my ways
Speaker 3: and if a makeup art, my makeup artist isn't telling
Speaker 3: me about it. I'm never going to change, right, I
Speaker 3: just I like what I like and it's done. But
Speaker 3: she's the one now that she's starting to worry a
Speaker 3: little makeup. She's like, Mom, you got to try this
Speaker 3: new mess scare. I'm like, where did you go? Where
Speaker 3: did you get this?
Speaker 1: You know, well, if you like to drive, you'll like it.
Speaker 2: Superhero also, oh, my Superhero is very good and the
Speaker 2: inexpensive great option is essence essence. I think it's called
Speaker 2: princess Lashka. Do all these like crazy comparisons, and I
Speaker 2: don't even wear makeup, and I become an expert on
Speaker 2: it for no reason, for no good reason.
Speaker 3: I mean, scare is like the one staple that you know.
Speaker 3: I mean I generally don't wear makeup during the day,
Speaker 3: but if I'm gonna wear any makeup, it's a little
Speaker 3: concealer and it's mascara.
Speaker 2: Oh I would I don't think about my scare. Even
Speaker 2: though I don't have very long I have long eyelashes,
Speaker 2: but they're straight, like they go forward. I would be
Speaker 2: I think concealer or like some sort of like a yeah,
Speaker 2: concealer or tinted SPF and liptops and I have not.
Speaker 3: I don't have as se. I hardly ever wear except
Speaker 3: for like Chastick, so I would pick. I would pick
Speaker 3: mascara over it.
Speaker 2: So I want a lot of people say that I
Speaker 2: want to get more into a scare because people do.
Speaker 2: I guess because it just opens up your eyes. But
Speaker 2: I guess, and then you didn't.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's where everybody looks like, you know.
Speaker 2: I'm getting into scare today, but you didn't get into
Speaker 2: You didn't get lashes though, like the the ones that
Speaker 2: last because you don't want it on your face.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what's fun is years ago when it
Speaker 3: started to become popular to get those lashes put on,
Speaker 3: they wrecked my lashes and I swear it never go back.
Speaker 1: And I yes, it's like fake nails. All my eyelashes out.
Speaker 1: I felt like, and I was sitting there trying to
Speaker 1: grow them.
Speaker 3: Back, and you know, like they took a lot out,
Speaker 3: and I was like, I will never do this again.
Speaker 2: No, I'm never doing it again either here in that No,
Speaker 2: And that's the same thing the kids wanted to gel
Speaker 2: on the nails. I'm like, it's gonna rip your freaking
Speaker 2: nails out.
Speaker 3: I know. I've had this conversation again with my daughter
Speaker 3: and she wants them so badly, and I said, no,
Speaker 3: you're not, because they all have the fake nails and
Speaker 3: I'm like, don't you have such beautiful nails. No, it's
Speaker 3: the worst possible.
Speaker 2: And the dye they want to dye the hair, well,
Speaker 2: tell her to get the dazzle dry. It's a type
Speaker 2: of nail polish that the salon has. It lasts a
Speaker 2: little bit longer. It's a good happy meetium because it
Speaker 2: yeah dazzled dry. It does chip off in two days.
Speaker 2: To their point, it's annoying. They get a manica. They
Speaker 2: look you two days, I know it's gone.
Speaker 1: And and I make her kind of pay for.
Speaker 3: A lot of this stuff now, you know, like it's
Speaker 3: part of like learning, and yeah, I agree that, so
Speaker 3: it's hard.
Speaker 2: I know, I agree. So, okay, we know people in
Speaker 2: common from that era. And it was like it was
Speaker 2: very gossipy, Like I was a PA and I was
Speaker 2: like it was very gossipy, like me just like being
Speaker 2: a fly on the wall with all the young kids
Speaker 2: that came through, and like all the different I've met
Speaker 2: in my old life. I met Tory Spelling and Denise
Speaker 2: Richard's in this world that we crossed over, INNODYA, who
Speaker 2: do you speak to? Are you still friends with these
Speaker 2: people that you kind.
Speaker 1: Of got me?
Speaker 3: I'm still very close with with that first cast, so
Speaker 3: Elizabeth and Mario and Mark Paul and all of them. Yes,
Speaker 3: very I mean I just saw Mario and you are, yeah,
Speaker 3: very very close. Yeah, totally, I see. I probably see
Speaker 3: Mario the most. I would say I have the longest,
Speaker 3: deepest relationship with Mark Paul because my husband and Mark
Speaker 3: Paul are also very close. Oh really, but he just
Speaker 3: moved from my life, so he's not here La anymore.
Speaker 1: Sadly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he went down south a little a little more
Speaker 3: south from here. So yeah, So I would say that
Speaker 3: out of the you know there, Mario and Mark Paul
Speaker 3: are probably the ones I'm closest to. But like Matt
Speaker 3: Bomer I'm still very close with and Tim Decay who
Speaker 3: played with my husband, and so very close with them.
Speaker 3: And as you know, we had a huge loss with
Speaker 3: Willie Garson a few years back, which still still still
Speaker 3: is so hard for me to understand that he's not here.
Speaker 3: It's just it's you know, I go back and look
Speaker 3: at my pictures and stuff, and it's just it's interesting
Speaker 3: now that you're getting older, you know, you do lose
Speaker 3: people in your life, right, and so it's it's pretty
Speaker 3: pretty kind of crazy, the whole death thing. You know,
Speaker 3: Like I lost my grandmother, which was an interesting because
Speaker 3: you know, the process of it was actually quite beautiful,
Speaker 3: and she was ninety six and it was, you know,
Speaker 3: like she lived an amazing long life. But during the
Speaker 3: same time, I was losing a friend who was way
Speaker 3: too young to be to be going through that, and
Speaker 3: it's it's a really interesting I learned. I learned a
Speaker 3: lot about just myself and death and emotions and life
Speaker 3: and and love and all those types of things, you know.
Speaker 2: But anyways, but no, no, no, no, it's it's because
Speaker 2: when you were talking, you know, you just provoked something
Speaker 2: to me where I think about, you know, how how
Speaker 2: close I am with my daughter, and then you like
Speaker 2: do the numbers and the age and like when she's
Speaker 2: my age, you know, like I don't be here, and
Speaker 2: you do that thing in your mind and it's noisy
Speaker 2: and it's anxiety producing and you feel for her because
Speaker 2: I had a child later, so I feel for her,
Speaker 2: because I won't be here as long as if I
Speaker 2: had a kid. That's the other thing we were talking
Speaker 2: about about when to have kids, because one way, you
Speaker 2: have a kid at twenty three, like you really spend
Speaker 2: your whole life with them, yep, together, you know as ye,
Speaker 2: and when you choose to do that later, you're leaving them.
Speaker 3: But let's hope that people are living longer, right because
Speaker 3: we are, Yes, you generally are, so maybe that sort
Speaker 3: of evens out a little bit more, right, that's what
Speaker 3: that's true.
Speaker 1: I'm telling us. No, it's true too, but it's it is.
Speaker 3: But you know, like my grandmother lived till ninety six
Speaker 3: and and that's amazing, unbelievable, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: And and and yeah, my fiance's grandmother is that same age.
Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, you're starting to prepare and
Speaker 2: talk about and think about, but you don't want to
Speaker 2: think about. And it's like, yeah, it's a circle of life.
Speaker 2: And teaching kids that too.
Speaker 1: Very much the circle of life totally.
Speaker 2: You don't want them to be too immersed in that topic,
Speaker 2: but you want them to understand that well, but you
Speaker 2: want to.
Speaker 3: Understand and we have ant like we we have animal,
Speaker 3: lots of animals, and we have chickens and and so
Speaker 3: the circle of life has been very much a part
Speaker 3: of like.
Speaker 1: Oh crazy animals.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's really interesting and the natural part of like
Speaker 3: you know, we've had chickens that have gone to other
Speaker 3: places because of other animals, and so they learned at
Speaker 3: a very young age that you know, this is part
Speaker 3: of life and and this is no differently in the
Speaker 3: animal world than it is in the human world sometimes,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: It's so true.
Speaker 2: And dogs, the dog conversation, the dog conversations.
Speaker 3: Lost dogs with our kids young, you know, when they
Speaker 3: were younger. So I hope they have a healthy outlook
Speaker 3: on death because it is a part of life, right, it.
Speaker 2: Is, Yes, it is. It is a part of life
Speaker 2: that we try to avoid talking about. Wow, well, I
Speaker 2: want to like see you when I'm in La one
Speaker 2: of these days. I was so glad to reconnect with you. Honestly,
Speaker 2: it was so nice as timmy, thank you, and I'd
Speaker 2: love to.
Speaker 1: Send you the book as well. I want it ready
Speaker 1: to be one hundred. Thank you. I have a good
Speaker 1: rest of your day. Thank you to bye.