1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys This is Girls Talk, 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Boys Talk, presented by Invisi Line, trusted by over five 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: hundred NFL players for their winning smiles, and broadcasting live 5 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. Now your host, 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: Nicole Hutchison. 7 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: Hello, Cowboys Nation, Welcome Ino Girls Sogboys Talk presented by 8 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: a Visit Line. Here in the SWBC studio, I'm Nicole 9 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: Hutson alongside Aisha Morrison and Christy Scales. How y'all doing today? 10 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 3: All right, Yes, let's go, Yeah, Yeah, let's go. Yes, 11 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: I'm talking about I was talking about Christmas shopping. Were 12 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: you talking about football or okay? 13 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 4: Okay, oh my god Christmas? 14 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: Well not right now. 15 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 4: I know what I'm saying. Like I know this week, 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 4: I've already did my Christmas. 17 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: It's more in a very busy season's a very unsual schedule. Yea, 18 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 3: all right, ladies's gonna get it done. 19 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it just like the boys. 20 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 4: Yes, it will be nice. This is gonna be a game. 21 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 3: It is it is. 22 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, Jasey. 23 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 3: We're gonna get thank you. 24 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: That matchup later in the show, but we do have 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: to show some love to the boys in the trenches, 26 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: specifically the offensive line. First, you talk about the first 27 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 2: eleven weeks the Dallas run game ranked seventeenth in success rate. Well, 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: four weeks after that they followed him in the fourth 29 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: in success rate, so obviously the improvement there. They've been 30 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: three and one behind Cooper Rush. Just talking about the improvement, 31 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: where do you feel like they improve the most and 32 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: the reasoning for the improvement in the offensive The. 33 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: Run game over two hundred yards against the Panthers, and 34 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: that makes it easier for your quarterback. That's a quarterback's 35 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: best friend is to be able to hand the ball 36 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 3: off and not fall behind the sticks and get some 37 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 3: positive yardage on first down. And I think that's why 38 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: you see the third down conversion rate improving just a 39 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 3: little bit. Still some room to go there, but overall, 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: you know, I think they've done a good job of 41 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 3: protecting Cooper Rush for the most part, but I see 42 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 3: the most improvement in the run game. 43 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 4: I agree. I mean, we talked about it on Monday. 44 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 4: I believe you know there is some what is the 45 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 4: word that MIKEA McCarthy used continuity between a BB, A Hoffman, 46 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 4: A TJ. Bass. These are guys that will those second 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: stringers on the other side of the field doing training camp. 48 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 4: Those are the guys that were working together preseason. They 49 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: have they got skin in the game, put it like 50 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 4: that together. So you kind of see that and also 51 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 4: to their But all of those guys, to me, their 52 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: strength is and Cooper BB is still a really good 53 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 4: pass blocker, but he was known for his run blocking. 54 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 4: Brock Hoffman as well. That's where his I think that's 55 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 4: where his bread is buttered for real. A TJ. Bass, 56 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 4: he can get to the second level stuff like that. 57 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 4: You got guys that like and enjoy the run, like 58 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 4: playing the run as well, not saying that other guys don't. 59 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 4: But they have a feel to them. They have an 60 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 4: attitude to them, They have a willingness to them, and 61 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 4: you see that. But also too, we talked about it. 62 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 4: Rigo Daddle is getting familiar with them, and they're getting 63 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 4: familiar with Rico Daddle. They get a feel for when 64 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 4: he likes to cut back, when he likes to accelerate, 65 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 4: and things like that. Because you can see them communicating 66 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 4: to each other, So I think you're seeing improvements there 67 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 4: and in turn, like you said, got to give some 68 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 4: credit to Cooper Rush as well though, because he is 69 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: in control of this offense and it is at his tempo. 70 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: So it has something to do with the play caller 71 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: also finding ways to you know, make this thing go. 72 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: And when you think about it, the offensive line, yes, 73 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: they have later this season, they've had a little bit 74 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: more cohesiveness, but they also sort of haven't because you 75 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: had too Manydoga get injured, and then Tyler Garden had 76 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: to come in, and then you have to see Cooper 77 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: be suffer concussion. Brock Hoffman's in at center, and you 78 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: got TJ. Batt Like, there's so many different rotational pieces 79 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: or I say different formations if that's the word to 80 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: use with. 81 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: That, but yeah, different combinations, that's the word. 82 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: I was looking for, combinations within this offensive line that 83 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: you've had to see, and I think it is. It 84 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: goes back to what I Yushu was saying. It's it's 85 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: more of the willingness, uh in terms of run blocking 86 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: and things like that. But having now seen brock Kaufman 87 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: play center, we kind of touched on this. 88 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 4: A little bit last week. Yeah, on the twitter. 89 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts, Christy, because then we'll 90 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: kind of go into who you feel like is your 91 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: starting offensive line? All right, do you prefer brock Kaufman 92 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: at center or guard? 93 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 3: Either one? 94 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 4: Really? 95 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 3: Either one. I'm happy either way. But we have to 96 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: remember that Hoffman was the starting center at the start 97 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 3: of training camp in preseason, and so he's got a 98 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 3: comfort level there, so it's not like he's playing out 99 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: of position. He truly can do either one. But it 100 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: would be interesting to see if moving forward, if you 101 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: put BB back at you know, at guard. I don't 102 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 3: know what do you think? Because you watch film of them? 103 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 4: Well, that makes its I'm talking about that makes us 104 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: draft nerds excited because I mean, even though Cooper BB has, 105 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 4: I think the way that he's performed this year as 106 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 4: he's developed into a center again, it's kind of crazy 107 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 4: because with the offensive line, it's like if you're not 108 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 4: talking about him, it's kind of a good thing in 109 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 4: a way. When you haven't really talked about him in 110 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 4: a negative way, so you kind of forget again, like 111 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 4: this is a rookie player in this position, not only that, 112 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 4: playing a position that he hasn't played. So you know 113 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 4: he's gotten better with the snaps and all the timing 114 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 4: through the year. But one thing about Cooper Bebe is 115 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: is that pop off the ball. Man. It is that 116 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 4: firing off the ball. How aggressive he can be. And 117 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 4: when you play center, there's an extra step. Actually a 118 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 4: guy's a couple maybe it's a couple more, it's just steps. 119 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: And I think that that ties in to how fast 120 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 4: he's been able to play. Do I think he's gonna 121 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 4: develop into being faster, into getting off the ball and stuff, Sure, 122 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 4: but I do consistently. But I do think that his 123 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 4: bread is butter when he's like just flying off the 124 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: ball and being that powerful guy that he is. So 125 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 4: we'll see. It's I think that it's a very unique 126 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 4: situation to be in having these type of discussions, and 127 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 4: it just speaks to brock Hoffman and his development. And 128 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 4: he could have, like we talk about resilience, he could 129 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 4: have literally sad and wallowed and was sad and whatever. 130 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 4: After you made Cooper Bebe your starting center, after Cooper 131 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: Bebe earned it during training camp, he could have literally 132 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: just tucked his tail and decided like, oh, I don't 133 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 4: care anymore. But he kept working and now his work 134 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 4: has come to fruition and to a point to what 135 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 4: we're talking about. Do we need to have this guy 136 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 4: as you know, a guy that's a starter on your 137 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 4: offensive line going into next year. That's a feat that's serious. 138 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: Well, and we're talking like he's going to be here, 139 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 3: and we hope that he is. He's a free agent, 140 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: don't say that he's a free agent. And so he 141 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: has he has earned himself some money. He really is, 142 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: and that's why I'm happy for him. But one thing 143 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: talking to Brouck in the locker room after the game, 144 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: he spoke to the media, and you know, we was 145 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: being asked, hey, there was a time, you know, there 146 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: were seven undrafted free agents on the field at the 147 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: same time in the fourth quarter and the Cowboys offense 148 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: and you know Rico Daubdele also one of them. And 149 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: and Brock said something interesting because and uh, I believe 150 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: that the exact way he said it was, when you're 151 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: an undrafted guy, you don't get to make the same 152 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: mistake twice. 153 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 5: Wow. 154 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: The point so you don't you don't have this, you 155 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: don't have the same kind of grace that you get 156 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: a luxury or a grace of of you know that 157 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: there's no skin in the game from the club standpoint, 158 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: and we have invested a draft pick in you, so 159 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: you're you're going to be the first to go. They're gonna, 160 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: you know, put more time into their draft picks or 161 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: give them additional chance, which you don't get as an 162 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: undrafted guy generally. So I thought that was very telling. 163 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: But the fact that we're all assuming that he's going 164 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: to be here, he's he's up to his price attack. 165 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely didn't even that didn't register to me. 166 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: So it also kind of sucks because you don't really 167 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: know what Zach Martin's gonna do, what's gonna happen with 168 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: Zach Martin either, so it's. 169 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 4: A lot of Uh, might have another person to prioritize. Yeah, wow, there's. 170 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: A lot of conversations that need to be had. But 171 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: Christy got to ask you this one too, because we 172 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: had on Friday kind of started some stuff. 173 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 4: But it's fine. 174 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 2: I want to know who you would have as your 175 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: starting offensive line. But everyone's healthy. Don't be like Jess 176 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: because Jess kind of cheated with. 177 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 4: The rules last week. 178 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 3: But everything, everybody's healthy. 179 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: Forget that Zach Martin's healthy. I mean unhealthy and on 180 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: our just pretend like there's no I'm still going with 181 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 2: Zach Martin. 182 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: Okay, your whole starting office. Yes, yes, I'm so. If 183 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 3: Zach Martin is healthy, he's my right guard. Okay, boy, 184 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: you're talking about between Hoffman and bb Yeah, so go 185 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 3: from left, yeah to right? So wow, left to right. 186 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 3: So yeah, well, coaching staff doesn't think it's geiten or 187 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: he'd be starting. I mean, he's not getting to practice 188 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: a lot as he's working through stuff. But yeah, awesome, 189 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: Richard's I said. 190 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 4: I think. I said, yeah, I think i'd have, but 191 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: only because Awesome got hurt because I thinks, okay, yeah. 192 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 3: But but again, but you've invested all of that in Guidon. 193 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: He is your first round pick. And you and I 194 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: know that the NFL is supposed to be a meritocracy. 195 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: You earn your time. But we were just talking about it. 196 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 3: When you have invested a first round pick and a guy, 197 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: you have got to let him work through some stuff. 198 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 3: And by the way, he's playing the opposite side of 199 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: what he played in college, so you know that. I 200 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: think they gave him some grace. But then when a 201 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: dooga got healthy, But remember adoga was starting going to 202 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 3: be the starter anyway at the beginning of the season. 203 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 3: If a Dooga hadn't suffered the dislocated left big toe, 204 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 3: he would have been the starter at the beginning of 205 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: the year. So I'm going to go a doogat Tyler Smith. Okay, 206 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: I think I'll stick with bebe Zach Martin because he's 207 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: my guy. And Terrence Steele, who, by the way, when 208 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: we talk about offensive line and we're mentioning all these guys, 209 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: the TJ. Bassetts and the brock Hoffman's and the BB's 210 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: of the world, and they deserve to be talked about, 211 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 3: the only player for the Cowboys who's taken one hundred 212 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 3: percent of the snaps is Terrence Steele. 213 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 4: That's two years in a row, by the way. 214 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: In fact, we were on Cowboys Radio all of the changes. 215 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: Matt will Let's Go was in at guard and Dakota 216 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: Shepley was in please at the end of the game 217 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: in Carolina and I'm like, Terrence Steele is looking around, 218 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: going what the hey, Yeah, you know, can I get it? 219 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: Can I get a couple snaps? Not really, he wasn't, 220 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 3: but you know, if anybody deserves a break, it's that 221 00:10:58,480 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: Man absolutely home. 222 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 4: I was, it's not your best left tackle at all. 223 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 3: Wow, Hall, that isn't really interesting, because that's why we 224 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 3: were So could I So could I put Tyler Smith 225 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: at left tackle and put Hoffman at one of the 226 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 3: guards and then keep Zach Martin if he's healthy? 227 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay, okay. 228 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: So you're saying Tyler Smith left tackle, rock Kaffman it left? 229 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: Does he get to practice at it? Or do we 230 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 3: just throw him out? There? Too many contingencies? 231 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 5: No? 232 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: But it's hey, this is this is great because I 233 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 3: promise you, I promise you ladies. There have been years 234 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 3: where you couldn't come up with five guys that you 235 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: would want offensive lineman. The dearth has been that bad 236 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: in previous years. And yes it was, you know, like 237 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 3: twenty years ago, twenty two, twenty three years ago, but 238 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: you know, well now that I think about it even 239 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 3: more recently. But this is a nice luxury that it's like, huh, 240 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 3: should we take Tyler Smith and move him? Yeah? No, 241 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 3: it really is because most teams in the league don't 242 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 3: have that luxury. 243 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 2: If you guys had to carry this current offensive line 244 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: into twenty twenty five next year with the current players 245 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: on this team. Would y'all be satisfied with what they've 246 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: shown you? 247 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: I want to see more from Guidon. 248 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: I want to see a little bit. Yeah, me too. 249 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 4: I want to see a tabit more from Guidon. If 250 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 4: we could get something from him that, you know, let 251 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 4: you know you're moving in a positive direction again with 252 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 4: what we saw from Awesome, you also got Nathan Thomas 253 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 4: that is on Was he on ir? 254 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 3: Yes? 255 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 4: He's on IR. We might get a chance to see 256 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 4: what he got. Yeah. I think you could make it 257 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 4: work with this offensive line. 258 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: Other teams is doing far. 259 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 4: I'm serious. Like some of these offensive lines that we 260 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 4: see and go against every week, they don't have. 261 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 3: Stars at every position. 262 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 4: They maybe have two guys that they didn't get in 263 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 4: the late rounds. 264 00:12:58,640 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: Maybe. 265 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 4: Like so, everything's not gonna be heart shaped rainbows, clovers 266 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: and balloons. You're gonna have to make it work with 267 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 4: different offensive line models. We can't just do it high 268 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 4: picks all the time. 269 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 2: So let me ask this, if you want to see 270 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: more from Gydon, do you want to see more from 271 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: him at left tackle or right tackle? 272 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 4: I'm sure the coaching staff is trying to figure out 273 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: what is best for him. Because we talked about it 274 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 4: earlier in this season. I'm like, hey, you know, some 275 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 4: people say, get the reps, get the reps, get the reps. 276 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 4: But baby, if I'm doing something wrong over and over 277 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 4: and over and over and over over again, and I'm not, 278 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 4: you know, like, that's what I'm saying, it's not clicking. 279 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 4: I think you're doing more bad than good. So for me, 280 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, whatever. Hopefully they're able to figure 281 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 4: out what exactly struggling with and they're able to cater 282 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 4: to what he does well, because he does There are 283 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 4: plenty of things he does well. It's just not consistent yet. 284 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think you've. 285 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: Made a sizeable investment in Terrence Steele. I'm going in 286 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 3: my notebook and trying to look at out the Yeah, sorry, 287 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: my little my little Notebookora. So you've signed him to 288 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: a five year, eighty two and a half million dollar 289 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 3: contract with fifty million guaranteed. His average aneral salary is 290 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 3: sixteen and a half million dollars, So financially you have 291 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: invested a lot in him. He's not a high draft pick, 292 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: in fact, he was undrafted, but financially you've put a 293 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: lot into that. You pushed your chips into the middle 294 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 3: of the table with him. So I think that you 295 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: keep going with steel, and I think that he's a 296 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 3: right tackle and not a left tackle back. All right, well, 297 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: we're going to take our first break. 298 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: We're just getting started here on Girls Boys Talk. 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So if 344 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 3: there's someone between ages six and sixteen that you still 345 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: don't have that perfect Christmas present for, and you're gonna 346 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 3: be in North Texas next week, there you go, got 347 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 3: the football camp. So dallascowboys dot Com slash Camps. 348 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: You know it's a great Christmas present. What Cowboys win 349 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: for my Zimmer When the defense plays well, good, bad, 350 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 2: and they've been playing well as of late. I've got 351 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: to ask you, guys, has Mike Zimmer called his best 352 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: game yet? Oh? 353 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 4: Wow? 354 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: Boy? You know I would say no, just because he 355 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 3: still hasn't had his full compliment. Demo was you know, 356 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: out for the rest of the year. So you know, 357 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 3: Leah Foul came in and made a couple of big plays, 358 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 3: including the force fumble, but it's still, you know, not 359 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 3: the same exact skill set as Demo. So and he 360 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 3: and he hasn't had He only had his three starting 361 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 3: cornerbacks for one game, So I would say no, just 362 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: because he hasn't had a full deck to deal. 363 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 4: With, same, I would think the same. I mean, I 364 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 4: would say even to his standards, he probably hasn't called 365 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: like to your point because he hasn't had all his 366 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 4: Tuesday's disposal, But he should be proud of what he 367 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 4: is doing. I don't know if coaches have that like 368 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 4: because they you know, this is their job and their 369 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 4: minds and whatever. But I hope that he does feel 370 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 4: proud about what this defense is doing and how they've 371 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 4: been able to perform this last few weeks. I hope 372 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 4: he is. 373 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Darry Jones is certainly proud because he 374 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: had talked about it on the Family he was asked 375 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: about Mike McCarthy and Mike Zimmer. Don't know the exact wording, 376 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: so don't quote me on this, but he did pretty 377 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 2: much say that with the way that they have performed, 378 00:18:55,160 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: it's something good to be proud about. And it kind 379 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: of makes it difficult though, too, because just you have 380 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: to remember that everyone's on one year deals and it's 381 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: now getting to the point of the season where you 382 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: have to start thinking about that it. Do you think 383 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: that Mike Zimmer has built a solid enough case to 384 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 2: remain here in Dallas? 385 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely, absolutely, I think I I believe that he 386 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 4: does because number one, I think that his system and 387 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 4: the way that he does things translates to what offenses 388 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 4: are doing. I think that he can attack you from 389 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 4: every level on the field, and the disguising on the 390 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 4: back end is for these quarterbacks and things like you 391 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 4: can't He changes the picture, he changes up looks. He's 392 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 4: very versatile, and when you're going against this NFL, to me, 393 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 4: that has expanded versatility. With the way offenses do things, 394 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 4: he has something to counter most things, and that comes 395 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 4: from experience that comes from just knowing the game, I believe, 396 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 4: and also to it took the guys some time to 397 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 4: maybe to buy into the system because this is a 398 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 4: totally different system they have been accustomed to. Dan Quinn 399 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 4: not saying they didn't buy into him, but to actually 400 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 4: understand everything that they're being asked to do and to start. 401 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 4: Now they're seeing like, if I'm in position, the play 402 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: is gonna come to me. If I play fast, if 403 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 4: I do my job, it's gonna come to me. I 404 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 4: do think that he has captured the locker room or 405 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 4: those defensive guys, because the intensity they're playing at. They've 406 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 4: been playing at this intensity for a while, even when 407 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 4: the offense wasn't scoring as much points. They we were 408 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 4: talking about it where they would play stout as they 409 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 4: could for half and you see them like, oh, they're 410 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 4: getting it, they're understanding it. But then they couldn't hold 411 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 4: up because they were on the field almost the whole game. 412 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 4: I think he is. I think he has gotten them 413 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 4: in a place to where they understand what they're doing 414 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 4: and I think they're enjoying it. At this point, they 415 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 4: look like they having fund I mean yeah. 416 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're having success. Yeah yeah, I think they 417 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: had NFL players And just like any of us, whatever 418 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 3: job you're in, whatever relationship you're in, what do you 419 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: want you want the person to shoot straight with you? 420 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 3: And then you want to be put in the best 421 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: position to succeed. That's what NFL players care about. And 422 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: when it comes to stuff about in the locker room 423 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: and teammates and stuff like that, is that person helping 424 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 3: me be better? Are they helping me win the game? 425 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 3: Because even player to player within the locker room, you'll 426 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: put up with a lot of stuff. If that player 427 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: is helping you win. 428 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 4: The game, thank you. 429 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 3: Right. So it's just like hey, or sales. You know, 430 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 3: there's some people that they sell a lot, they're productive, 431 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 3: they do and they get away with a lot of stuff, 432 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 3: right because they're helping the bottom line or they're helping, 433 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 3: you know, raise the ship and raise the what is it, 434 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: a rising tide carries all boats, right, So yeah, and 435 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: I think that's exactly what Zimmer is what he's been 436 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 3: from the whole time that he's been here, since the 437 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 3: early nineties when he joined the Cowboys. He's a straight 438 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 3: shooter and he puts the guys in the best position 439 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 3: to win. 440 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 2: And I think it also works hand in hand with 441 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: Ayesha's point of at both y'all's point, but Ayisha had 442 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: mentioned that it took a while for the guys to 443 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: get accustomed to his system. I think that he also 444 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: took some time to really figure out what he had 445 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: and what his guys could do as well, just because 446 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't really think you necessarily get that 447 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: time in the offseason, even in training camp. It's kind 448 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: of hard when you don't really know necessarily who's going 449 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: to be here at the start of the season, who 450 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: they're going to let go of, and things like that, 451 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: and really figuring out because of course, preseason starters don't play. 452 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: But I think that he started. 453 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 2: To see, specifically when we talk about the safeties, what 454 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: Donovan Wilson can do. 455 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 4: Later in the season, you're. 456 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: Starting to see that Mazzie Smith at least Zimmer's starting 457 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 2: to see at least that Mazzie Smith can hold up 458 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 2: his end and really understand what he's supposed to be 459 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 2: doing as well. 460 00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: So I think it just took. 461 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: A little bit of time for Mike Zimmer to start 462 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: realizing what he had in. 463 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 4: His guys as well too. Also Michaeh Michael also, Yeah, 464 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 4: Micah's presence on the field warrants a lot of respect 465 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 4: and it is going to, you know, change how how 466 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 4: guys play off of them. But we talked about this yesterday, 467 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 4: Mozzie Smith playing better is helping. Ohso, Digizua. I mean, 468 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 4: it's a collective effort when it comes to the way 469 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 4: that the defense is improving. 470 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the thing. That's why football is the 471 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 3: ultimate team game, and in Zimmer's system in particular, if 472 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: the interior of the defensive line doesn't hold. 473 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 4: Up, it's bad. 474 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 3: It's bad. 475 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 4: It's just sad. 476 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 3: You can't really yeah, yeah, that's just how it is. 477 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 3: You can't really compensate or you know, get away from that. 478 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 3: And so that that's why there were some issues early, 479 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 3: not just everyone acclimating to the system and some of 480 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 3: the injuries that were suffered early. But yeah, Mazzi and 481 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: the interior, they they've played better. 482 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: That you brought up, Michael, because there was a lot 483 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 2: of conversations that were taken out of context this week 484 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: when you had obviously NFL Networks in Rappaport put out 485 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: an article that he had spoke with Stephen Jones in 486 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: the December league meetings just about the free agency players 487 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: and top players that you're gonna have to pay this offseason, 488 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 2: specifically Michael Parsons, and of course a lot of people 489 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: took it and ran with it and basically said that 490 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: it was trade rumors, which if you read the article, 491 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 2: it does not mention. 492 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 4: That at all. 493 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: But I do want to get you all's thoughts on 494 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 2: whether or not you believe that I already know the 495 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: answer to this for you guys, but whether or not 496 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: you believe that Michael Parsons should be. 497 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 4: Remaining here in Dallas next year. 498 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 2: Just thinking about the amount of money that obviously they're 499 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 2: gonna have to pay. 500 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 3: It's gonna be at least thirty three million a year. 501 00:24:55,040 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: I think I think he's gonna be load to mid thirties. 502 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: He he did his agent approve that. No, I don't 503 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 3: think so. He said that. 504 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 4: I think he was just he clearly was just talking 505 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 4: exactly and he didn't mean what he say. 506 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: So, you know, there's a lot of structuring that they're 507 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 3: gonna have to do within this contract because you already 508 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 3: have the highest paid player in the league at Dak 509 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: Prescott and then the second highest paid wide receiver with 510 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb at thirty four million a year. So you 511 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 3: know that that it's gonna be tough. But you see 512 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 3: what the product was in October before Micah came back 513 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 3: in the early November. That's valid. 514 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean per PFF. Since Michael Parsons returned 515 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 4: to the Cowboys in Week ten, the team has twenty 516 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 4: two sacks, first in the league, one hundred and thirty 517 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 4: one pressures first in the league, and a fifty four 518 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 4: percent pass rush right right, that's second in the league. 519 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 4: It's kind of undeniable, just kind of how but also too, 520 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 4: this is goes back to Zimmer. It goes back to 521 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 4: Zimmer knowing what his guys do well. And it takes 522 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 4: me back to hearing Michael Parsons pre the season starting 523 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 4: talking about he and Mike Zimmer having breakfast together and 524 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 4: talking and things like that. The way he's moving him around, 525 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 4: and sometimes my favorite thing about Zimmer is that if 526 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 4: he sees that aside of your your offensive line this week, 527 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 4: he's like, Hey, everybody over there, we're going to wear 528 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 4: you out over here. You decide to come in here, 529 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 4: you're not gonna chip you don't have enough manpower. We're 530 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 4: gonna go at you. He's used. He's like really deploying 531 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 4: Micah and everyone else as well. So, I mean, I'm 532 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 4: it's really a no brainer. I don't understand why people 533 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 4: just take certain players. For granted, I mean, this is 534 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 4: a special type of talent that we're getting to see 535 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 4: on this field with Michael Parsons. 536 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: So then what do y'all make of the talks when 537 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: they keep coming up about Michael Parsons and you know, 538 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 2: just the conversations of him possibly not remaining in Dallas, 539 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: What do y'all make of it? 540 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 4: He's clickbait, that's let let her get let her get cooked, Christy. 541 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 3: No, No, I mean that's part of it. Yeah, And 542 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 3: the financial reality, how do you make that work? How 543 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 3: do you have the highest paid defensive player in NFL history? 544 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 3: That's what he's going to be. 545 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 4: And the same thing. 546 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 3: No, I mean really, it's going to take a lot 547 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 3: of finagling, a lot of juggling, uh to make this work, 548 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 3: to structure it where you can actually have fifty other 549 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: players on the team. 550 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I would say the same way that 551 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 4: once he gets paid, the next d and that gets 552 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 4: paid is going to have to do it. It gotta happen, 553 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 4: You gotta figure it out. Like this is just how 554 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 4: the market works. This is something that people are paid 555 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 4: to prepare for and understand. So for me, it's just 556 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 4: like figure it out like, we cannot be a draft 557 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 4: and developed team and not want to invest with the 558 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 4: point of the players have developed. This is a guy 559 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 4: that was not a linebacker coming out of call. He 560 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 4: was a linebacker coming out of college. He was not 561 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 4: an edge. He converted as in the pros, to a 562 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 4: d N and he's become one of the best, if 563 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 4: not the best. Pay him. Stop playing these games. It's exhausting. 564 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 4: And I understand that there's I understand that there are 565 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 4: details in it, and there's intricacies in it. But sometimes 566 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 4: you see a player and you get it done because 567 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 4: you also have to make sure you set the precedent 568 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 4: that when guys earn their shot, that they get their 569 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 4: shot and they don't have to go through a whole 570 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 4: bunch of extra drama and bs. As far as what 571 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 4: people are talking about trading him, sometimes you'll know a 572 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 4: good thing to us. 573 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 3: Gone is that you appreciate over here. 574 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 4: Nah, I'm just it's just very weird, and I get 575 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 4: I understand that Micah is not everybody's taste. I understand 576 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 4: that he does his own thing. He's very free and 577 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 4: how he pursues his career and the things he does 578 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 4: outside of it, and I know that that's different for 579 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 4: some people and it makes some people uncomfortable, but it 580 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 4: does not affect how he is on the field, and 581 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 4: that's all people care about. It does it affect how 582 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 4: you play? And he's cut like he is at a 583 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 4: million miles an hour right now, y'all. The motor, the 584 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 4: way that he is playing right now, the effort he 585 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 4: is leading, and how he's playing on the field. So 586 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 4: I'm just I'm exhausted with the Mike. 587 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: I think Micah needed this year too. I agree with 588 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: terms of because let's keep it a stat last couple 589 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 2: of years, he hasn't had to show in that leadership 590 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: and not saying that he's not a leader. We don't 591 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: know what he says behind closed doors. We don't know 592 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: what he does behind closed doors. We don't know what 593 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: he does. 594 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: In the locker room. 595 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: But we haven't seen him be a true vocal leader 596 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 2: when it terms of when I mean he said it 597 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: in press conferences. When there's losses, even when there's wins, 598 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: even when they just beat the Carolina Panthers, it's we're 599 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: still fighting, like we're not giving up on this team. 600 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: We don't know who's gonna be here next year, like 601 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: we're fighting for guys and the names on the back 602 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: of our jersey. So he's been vocal in terms of 603 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 2: that aspect, and I think that he really needed this 604 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: year to show that because now you see the play 605 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: that you get on the field from Michael Parsons, and 606 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: now you also see that he brings a little bit 607 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: of extra leadership that people want to follow, not that 608 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: they didn't want to follow him before, but now you're 609 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: seeing a little bit more from him. 610 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 3: So I think that just added that just made his 611 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 3: price go up. 612 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 4: Y'all adversity too. To your point immediately when you said that, 613 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 4: I thought about the fact that he said, I ain't 614 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 4: never been heard before, I ain't never experienced this before, 615 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 4: having to sit down and sometimes got players getting to 616 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 4: sit back and watch the game also too, I feel 617 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 4: like Dak had that as well as like he told us, 618 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 4: like once he got injured, to sit on the sidelines 619 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 4: and have to watch the game in that way helped 620 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 4: him process the game better. And so with Michael Parsons, 621 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 4: I think it was a humbling thing for because he feels, 622 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 4: like he said, he's I feel like Superman. Yeah, the 623 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 4: way he plays is like Superman. The reality check of hey, 624 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 4: it can be real quick for you will make you 625 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 4: seize the moment. And I think that that is a 626 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 4: part of why we've seen this flare from him coming back, 627 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 4: is that he understands, like I can get touched. Okay, 628 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 4: Well you know what I'm saying, Like, that's the reality. 629 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 4: It's a reality, it's reality check. 630 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: It's perspectives, perspective that he didn't have before. 631 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 4: That means you gotta pay Micah Tater tight Duran coming 632 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 4: because he shows playing steady. 633 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: Lizzy, Ye, don't wait on him. Extend him as quickly 634 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 3: as you can because his numbers are going to keep 635 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: going up to and he was he's a he's a 636 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,239 Speaker 3: later pick, he's a mid round pick. You can't you know, 637 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 3: you don't have an option to push for a fifth 638 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 3: year if a player is drafted. If a player is drafted, 639 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: the standard rookie contracts are four years. If you're a 640 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 3: first round draft pick, then the team has an option 641 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 3: for a fifth year. So what the Cowboys had with 642 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 3: Cede Lamb, what they have with Micah, you can keep 643 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 3: them for five years before they're free. But Duran Bland 644 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: what fifth round pick? And so after four years he 645 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 3: can do whatever he wants to do. You can't keep 646 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 3: him a fifth year by putting an option on him. 647 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: I don't want to think about that. 648 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 4: You can't play those games. I don't want to think 649 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 4: about it. 650 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: But you gotta also pay osa. 651 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 3: And that's now. I mean, he's going to be a 652 00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 3: free agent. 653 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 4: If you can, RONC, I would. I would be like, 654 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 4: I'm personally living for Jeorge Lewis because jan in the 655 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 4: back room is your corner. Back room is crazy. And 656 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 4: I'm telling y'all every week when I look at film, 657 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 4: I go look at people's nickel corners, and I'd be like, 658 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 4: you not better than Jordan Lewis. You're not better than 659 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 4: Jordan Lewis. You know, hey, let's attack the nickel corner. 660 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 4: Why do you think cd'd be cooking people's nickel corners? 661 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 3: Is bad? Yeah, he ain't keep him. Please, Jordan Lewis 662 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 3: is the most younger appreciated Dallas cowboy in the last 663 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: ten to fifteen years. I promise him. Tell not underappreciated 664 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 3: by teammates and coaches, or the personnel department here or 665 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 3: anybody in the league. But I'm talking about from fans 666 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: and media. Totally take him for granted, and they shouldn't sos. 667 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 3: All right, he gonna make me sick, It's gonna make 668 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 3: me throw up. 669 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: Don't want to see it. All right, there was one point. Wow, 670 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: I just had lost my whole train of thought of 671 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: talking to y'all. 672 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: All right, No, no, no, Eric Kendricks. 673 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: Sorry, I found it again, Eric Kendricks. 674 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 3: One year deal. 675 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 2: Do you guys think that the Cowboys will. 676 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 4: Bring him back? 677 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: Because now you've got to think about the Marvin overshown 678 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: not possibly turning back until twenty twenty six. 679 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: I want him to, sure, but I think that that's 680 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 3: one where, unless he's super cheap at the beginning of 681 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 3: free agency, that's one where they'll just sit and wait 682 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 3: and hope, assume that he doesn't go somewhere else for 683 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 3: bigger money and see what happens in terms of other 684 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 3: free agents, and then in the draft. If it were me, 685 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: i'd try and get him right away. Yeah, and I 686 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: don't want to lose him. But here's the thing. Why 687 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 3: is he here because of Mike Zimmer? And if Mike 688 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 3: Zimmer isn't here, if there's changes with the coaching staff 689 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 3: and they're going to be playing a different kind of 690 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 3: system and kind of thing. So I think that we're 691 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 3: not going to know about Kendricks until we know what's 692 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 3: happening with the staff. 693 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean and with Kendricks, I mean, y'all, 694 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 4: linebackers become a need now again, which makes me sick 695 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 4: because I was very out that the Cowboys decided the 696 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 4: way they handle linebacker they saw last year. We messed up, 697 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 4: clearly didn't have enough linebacker towards end of this season. 698 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 4: We're not making that mistake again. When now And got mayored, 699 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 4: Marian Overston came back from an injury, when Now got Kendricks, 700 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 4: Kendricks chose to come here instead of going to forty nine. 701 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 4: Shout out to you, now And and You're like, Okay, 702 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 4: this is a this is a good linebacker corps to start. Obviously, 703 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 4: Michael is technically a linebacker. Clark, yes, okay, okay, And 704 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 4: injuries have just decimated this room. And so I'm just 705 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 4: I'm I'm a little sick that you're gonna have to 706 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 4: go into this draft probably looking for a linebacker. 707 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 3: Oh for sure, probably gonna have to. Yeah, because even 708 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 3: if you bring Kendricks back, I'm sorry, he's on It's 709 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 3: it's the sunset of his career. 710 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 4: Have you yeah over shown to the next week had 711 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 4: come out? Stop? I'm just I'm sad. That's what I 712 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 4: have to rationalize. It is that there's something good, good 713 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 4: things coming at the same time. I got a rat 714 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 4: leave me alone today? 715 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I was just gonna say, you wore 716 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 3: your green for Wicked. Now I'm sad. I didn't think 717 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 3: about it that way. We have to wait for the 718 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 3: sequel before Demo's back. 719 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 4: Wow, I don't even. 720 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 2: Want to think about it. 721 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 3: What other position would you guys address in the draft? Defense? 722 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: My gosh, yep, defensively, defensive dress first, I'm going first. 723 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 4: What would y'all dress first? Y'all make my brain happy? 724 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 4: What's up? What'd you got? 725 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 2: Oh? Gosh? 726 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 3: Secondary? I mean, you don't know about Trayvon. Can't count 727 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 3: on him being back for next season? And how long 728 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 3: are you going to have Bland? Are you going to 729 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 3: be able to keep him financially beyond the following year? 730 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 3: So did you keep Jordan Lewis? So? 731 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? 732 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 3: And and and then with defensive tackle, I don't think 733 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 3: you can afford to keep Osa. I think Osa is 734 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 3: going to be gone. He's gonna he's gonna he's gonna 735 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 3: be wearing burgundy and gold and have a huge tracked 736 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 3: somewhere else. 737 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 2: I here you, Christie, Christy, Christy, I don't like this. 738 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 4: I don't like this energy from you. 739 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 3: It's the financial reality. It's not what I want. Christy. 740 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 4: You don't have no proving three tech on this team. 741 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. 742 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 4: That's even more reason why you cannot let a foundational 743 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 4: player go. You don't have a foundation. 744 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 3: Three with you. But but can you afford can you 745 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 3: afford eighteen to twenty million dollars for him? If you're 746 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: paying mic up? 747 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 4: So what you so? 748 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 5: So? 749 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 3: What's the so? 750 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 4: What You're gonna do another one to take a pay cut? 751 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 4: You're gonna go draft one. Well, you're gonna go. You're 752 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 4: gonna go try to get one because people that got 753 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 4: good three texts is holding them for ranks exactly. 754 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 3: And it's what we had a training camp where you 755 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 3: bring in the different guys, the and not that he's 756 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 3: the three, but you know the Linval Joseph, the Jordan 757 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 3: Phillips of the world. The bet now, yeah, because it 758 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 3: didn't lin Vall. Linvall has played his roles, but Jordan Phillips. 759 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,720 Speaker 3: I mean that was wasted money. 760 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 4: You're gonna do it again, so you tell me that. 761 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 3: I'm not saying I want it done now the. 762 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 2: Way I know, But she's talking financially. 763 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 3: This is this is, this is what happens. Folks draft 764 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 3: and develop, You keep ce d Lamb thirty. It's the 765 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 3: second highest paid wide receiver, right, so you know Micah 766 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,959 Speaker 3: is going to cost you over thirty million dollars maybe 767 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 3: thirty five million. Yeah, so thirty three or thirty four 768 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 3: would be my guess. So yeah, that's the way it is. 769 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 4: I just think it's just this is a bit of right. 770 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 4: It just doesn't make any sense to me. I mean 771 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 4: I understand, like I feel like from a logical standpoint, 772 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 4: I understand what you're saying. I just feel like, what 773 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 4: are we doing then? If I'm I'm just being straight 774 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 4: up with you, like, what are you doing as a team? 775 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 4: If you drafted also Diggizu, you developed him into the 776 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 4: player that he is, you stuck with him, he's done it, 777 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 4: and then you just be like, well, we can't pay 778 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 4: you even though and mind you, you didn't go out 779 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,720 Speaker 4: and free agency and grab like the and you mentioned 780 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 4: the guys that they brought in. Those are guys Like 781 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 4: at the last second, those are those aren't the. 782 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 3: High level of guys? Yeah, that's not the high level guys. 783 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 4: So it's like you are not going you're not going 784 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 4: out in free agency and being aggressive in that. But 785 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 4: then the guys that you you opt because you're not 786 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 4: paying money out there like that. So the guys that 787 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 4: you opt to pay and draft and develop, you also 788 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 4: can't pay. So who are we paying? We're gonna go 789 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 4: get somebody from from what COSTCO was on? Like what 790 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 4: I don't understand, and I'm not I'm not fussing at you. 791 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 4: I'm trying to understand, like the rationale reality. 792 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the salary cap. Oh my, there's a budget. 793 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 3: Hey if if your parents give you what, what's a 794 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 3: PS two or some something really cool for Christmas, then 795 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 3: you're probably not getting another really cool You're gonna get 796 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 3: something really cool and then a few other things maybe, right, 797 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 3: You're not going to be getting a bunch of the 798 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 3: really cool stuff because you can only there's the big 799 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 3: gifts and then the rest. Well, oh no way, it's 800 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 3: that way when you have the CDs, the Micah's, the 801 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 3: Dax the Zach Martin, you know. And by the way, 802 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 3: even if Zach, you've still got dead money, right, you've 803 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 3: got dead money on these which count against your cap. 804 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 3: Yecause guys anymore? 805 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, Michael Gallops said nasty next year, which is it 806 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 4: he's retired. I hope he's saying he's doing well for himself. 807 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 4: But yeah, that's this some of these decisions that you've 808 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 4: made in the if made in the past, or what's 809 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 4: coming up to bite you to help you develop your future. 810 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 4: And it's just again like if you can't pay you 811 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,720 Speaker 4: a foundational players, you got a problem. 812 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 3: Hey, here's an example on things biting you. Zeke Elligott. 813 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 3: They bring them back for one year, one year, two 814 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: million dollar deal. Okay, actually his basis one point twenty 815 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 3: five million. Well guess what his previous contract over five 816 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,240 Speaker 3: times that. 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Todd Bowles, who's the head coach of the Bucks. 881 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 3: I remember he came in as the defensive backs coach 882 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 3: when Bill Parcells took over back in the early two thousand. 883 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 3: So Todd Bowles was with the Cowboys for three years actually, 884 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 3: two thousand and five through two thousand and seven. And 885 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 3: then other guys that are on the staff. Godly, there's 886 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 3: so many of them. Casey Rogers, George Edwards, who did 887 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,919 Speaker 3: great work with the linebackers recently with the Cowboys. He's 888 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 3: over there, and their offensive line is really really good 889 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,439 Speaker 3: and a big reason for the success in the run 890 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 3: game and protecting Baker Mayfield. And Kevin Carberry, who used 891 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 3: to be an offensive assistant here has been their offensive 892 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 3: line coach and done a great job. So yeah, you 893 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 3: look across the field, there's going to be a lot 894 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 3: of familiar faces. But I'm really excited to see the 895 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 3: Bucks because Baker Mayfield is a guy that I've always 896 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 3: enjoyed watching, even though in college, and just I love 897 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 3: those kind of swashbuckling kind of guys with the moxie 898 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. And he has been 899 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,879 Speaker 3: hot of late. That offense has been really hot. They've 900 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,760 Speaker 3: won four in a row. They're averaging more than thirty 901 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 3: four points per game in this four game win streak. 902 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 3: And then their defense with what Todd Bowles does. He's 903 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 3: even though he's the head coach, their defensive coordinator, it 904 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 3: doesn't call the place. Todd Bowle still calls the plays. 905 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 3: And there's gonna be a lot that Cooper Roush is 906 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 3: going to see. They do they bring a lot of things. 907 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 3: They'll try and disguise things. There'll be some exotic looks. 908 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 3: And so if we have a lot of these young 909 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 3: offensive linemen playing again this week like we did last week, 910 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 3: it's going to be a real challenge for them because 911 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 3: they're they're gonna not just Vita Vea at all three 912 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty pounds to them in the middle of 913 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 3: that Bucks defensive line. But it's going to be a 914 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 3: challenge to identify who the Bucks are bringing. 915 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 5: Fast. 916 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 2: We'll go don host my bad real fast, because I 917 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,280 Speaker 2: know we are going to be breaking down the matchup 918 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 2: over the next couple of days. But just thinking big 919 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 2: picture here, what challenge does Baker Mayfield bring? The biggest 920 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 2: challenge that he brings. 921 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 4: Oh, he's just he's a little unpredictable to me. I 922 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 4: think that's what makes him kind of He can he 923 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 4: can surprise you with some of the things he can do. 924 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 4: He'll escape the pocket, he'll run, he'll make plays, he'll 925 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 4: shovel past he sometimes he'll be freestyling out there a 926 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 4: lot of the time. And he has developed I think 927 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 4: at Tampa Bay he has developed more control in his play. 928 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 4: I was watching him a little bit last night he 929 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,879 Speaker 4: feels I do think that this run game has helped 930 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,360 Speaker 4: him be a little bit more comfortable. And there's obviously 931 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 4: this offensive line in the pocket because one thing he 932 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,399 Speaker 4: will do is dance. He gets really, really, really damned see, 933 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 4: and that's what that has to be stressing for a 934 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,959 Speaker 4: defensive line because he's in the pocket and his feet 935 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 4: are just moving a lot of the time, so you 936 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 4: don't know, like you know, most guys they have that 937 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 4: three stop, three step drop or whatever mean drop and 938 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,240 Speaker 4: then they plant that backfoot and they're making a pass 939 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 4: or they're going through the checks. He's like like a 940 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 4: bunny rabbit sometimes. I'm sure that can be stressing for defenses. 941 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 4: And like I said, he can run and he also 942 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 4: will make plays down the field. So and he ain't scared, No, 943 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 4: he ain't scared. 944 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 3: He got tried. 945 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 4: I've heard him on the sidelines when he's miked up. 946 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 4: He's like a thirteen. If I see you, Mike, if 947 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 4: you one on one, I'm tossing it. I don't care. 948 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 4: Like that's the type of guy he's always been, so 949 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,240 Speaker 4: just the confidence and a little bit of crazy. 950 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,879 Speaker 2: He don't care if there's pressure coming either. He's gonna 951 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 2: get throws off. That's what I've noticed. 952 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 3: But and that's the thing, that confidence that his receivers. 953 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 3: Sometimes it can work against him. He is streaky, but 954 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 3: it can be streaky the other way, uh, in terms 955 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 3: of turnovers. So that that was the thing that they're 956 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 3: in streak. But and it's been better during obviously with 957 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 3: their four game win streak. But that cockiness and that 958 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,919 Speaker 3: confidence sometimes he's so determined to fit that football in there, 959 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 3: and he's gonna throw it when you and and Kate Aughton, 960 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 3: they're the tight end. Nobody really talks about him. He's 961 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 3: their leading receiver in terms of number of receptions, So 962 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 3: he's gonna, you know, Baker Mayfield's gonna fit those passes 963 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 3: into those tight spaces. So but if you don't get 964 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 3: pressure on him, forget it. But if you do and 965 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 3: he's trying to make those throws, you may have an 966 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 3: opportunity for the takeaway. 967 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 2: I think he needs a little humblings. 968 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 4: He's gonna have to feast his Michael, his Michaeh moment. 969 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 970 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 4: One of my other coworkers likes to say he, well, 971 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 4: quarterbacks are running from Micah and they think they have 972 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,439 Speaker 4: more time than they normally have, and they just look 973 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 4: up or they look you see them look look back 974 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 4: and he's. 975 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,919 Speaker 3: Like right there on the d It's like animal plane 976 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 3: where the antelope looks back and the lions right there. 977 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 4: Like look at Oh, too late, because he's he had 978 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,799 Speaker 4: that pounsing you know how with the Maronovshan, we've seen 979 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 4: him literally just thrust himself in the air. Sometimes he 980 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 4: be pouncing on people. Mike, I had a pouncing spirit too. 981 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 4: On Sunday I said, like cats, oh my tackling people 982 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,280 Speaker 4: all crazy. Alright, ladies, well this has been fun. 983 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 2: It was. We'll be back here tomorrow at four o'clock 984 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,720 Speaker 2: PM for I Morrison, Christy Scials, myself, Nicole Hudgson. 985 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 4: We'll see all tomorrow. 986 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Coowboys dot Com 987 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.