WEBVTT - Ice Cube and F. Gary Gray Interview 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:07.560 A real key for real celebrity joined the Breakfast Morning. 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:10.799 Everybody is DJ M v Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.560 We are the Breakfast Club. We got two special guests, 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:16.599 two legends in the building, f Gary Gray and Ice 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:21.599 Skill Up. What up morning guy? Y'all got another one? Right, yes, sir, 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:24.400 it's graight out of Compton, right out of Compton. I 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:26.200 saw this weekend. I had the pleasure of seeing it 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:30.080 in LA So that's that's a nice place to see it. Yeah, 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:32.080 you know what I mean, it was a good experience. 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:33.279 I like, I liked the movie a lot. I got 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:35.479 so many questions, man, like you was under contract with 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:38.000 NWA to hold I mean, you wasn't under contract when 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:42.560 NWA the whole time. No, no contracts that signed the 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:48.080 contract ain't no really really really it's really that wasn't 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:50.080 out of bad business back there it was. I'm like, 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.320 so you didn't get paid on the road. That's what 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:53.680 I was trying to figure out. What you Yeah, yeah, 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:55.480 I got paid on the road. Okay, it wasn't a 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.760 lot of money, you know what I'm saying. You know, 0:00:58.000 --> 0:00:59.920 but we got paid on the road. So let's bring 0:00:59.920 --> 0:01:02.080 it back. How did NWA come together for people that 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:08.119 don't know well. You know, Dre ended up moving down 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.280 the street from him with his cousin, Sir Jenks, Sir Jinks. 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:13.880 You look on my old records, you know. He helped 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.319 me produce a lot of records. So me and him 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.440 was real cool. So when Drake went down there and 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:24.200 started living, I started to go down there a lot, 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:26.119 you know what I mean, and just kind of spit 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:30.720 my rhymes and Drey started feeling me. We started collaborating together. 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:35.000 He was with a group called the Wrecking Crew. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:38.760 so we started to I started to help him right 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.320 rhymes for the Wrecking Crew, and then we started doing 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:45.200 mixtapes where we just talked about what was going on 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.600 in the hood. Now when did his image change? Because 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:49.600 the world Class Wrecking Crew. If you see the pictures 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.520 of the other album covers they had on shiny glitter suites. 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:54.600 It didn't seem like YA kept the listing out the 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:58.280 movie too, What lipstick? It was what Lipstick? And they 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.640 have listed on one of the covers the world clubs 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.160 Wrecking Croup. We didn't show no album come on the movie, 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.720 I know, but they had. Yeah, he was DJ and 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:11.919 at the club. Yeah, did you see the movie Man 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.760 the world class recorcruiter to Nwa as we know it, well, 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.480 the wrecking crew. He was in somebody's crew that was 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.480 ran by dude named grand Master Lines. So they had 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.320 to do it his way and play it his way. 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.760 But you know, we was all right there from the hood. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.880 So your image don't change. You just grow up what 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.960 you know. You right there. So I haven't seen the 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.240 movie yet, so I can't even say what happens in it. 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:38.679 But a lot of people haven't. So if we asked 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.400 questions from people who haven't seen the movie, from my 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.120 point of view, I know they had to be a 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.800 lot of discrepancies between people's recollections. Like I'm sure what 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.880 you remember is different than you know, what other people remember. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:53.320 So how do you put all of that together? Well, 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.600 you know, you try to make a movie that that 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.400 tells the origin and tells the story. We're trying to 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:02.520 cram ten years is into two hours, so you know 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:10.840 you're not gonna get everything in. Sorry you want to lipstick, Sorry, 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.160 you know what I mean. But you can't get everything in, 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.120 you know what I mean. You just gotta tell the 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:19.720 story and tell what happened in a comprehensive way, and 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.720 it's still a movie. You know, it's still have to 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:29.400 adhere to the laws of cinematography and film. So that's 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.440 what we're trying to do. We gotta we gotta make 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:36.080 sure that we're telling a story that people can understand, comprehend, 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:39.640 follow the characters, and really get behind the group and 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:43.560 get behind what we're trying to say. You didn't even 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:47.040 know this movie, right, yeah, I did, you know, because 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.040 when I when I broke out and left the group, 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.680 you know, that was like nineteen eighty nine, So I'm 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:54.960 doing my thing. I don't know what's going on over there. 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:59.640 So until we started to uh like research the movie 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:04.080 and interview everybody and hear everybody's story, then I started learning, like, 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:07.080 oh damn snap, that it was going through that I 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.240 was going through this, So you know, I was able 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.320 to discover a lot, you know, putting this movie together, 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.840 and I was like, damn it, it's gonna be good, 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:18.600 right right, right, even with you was in the group, Cia, right, 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.000 that's what it's called. Yea, they say they mentioned it 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:22.520 in the movie that you was in the group, So 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:24.480 you probably couldn't get down with NWA, but they never 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.800 showed how you broke apart from that group to get 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:30.080 with NWA. Do you really care? I mean, you know, 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:33.279 it's like it's about n WA. You know. CIA is 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:37.040 like a startup group, you know what I mean, That's 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.320 like your first crew you get with when you first 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.720 started rapping. So yeah, you know, it's so much information. Man. 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.080 I've been on this film for about four years, and 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:49.160 it's so much drama, so much controversy, so many good 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:51.560 times and high points and low points, that you could 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.000 actually make three n WA movies out of the information 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.160 that's out there. So you know, we did our best 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.839 to put the right information in there to serve the 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.880 narrative and to make it entertaining and make it, you know, 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:05.159 edgy like the Stratocompton the album. I agree. How hard 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:06.520 is it for you to do a movie of this 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:08.920 magnitude with new actors? So a lot of these got 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.920 that I haven't seen before. Very hard, you know. One 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.000 of the hardest things about making a movie was casting it, 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:16.640 you know, because everybody's looking at me like you better 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:20.280 not screw this up. You gotta get this right, and 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.719 so it's so many ways to get it wrong. You know, 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:26.880 the moment you introduce La Eighties, Jerry curls that whole thing. 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:31.760 You know, you walk a fine line between humor and reality. 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:33.640 So I wanted it to make it really authentic and 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:35.760 make it raw. I don't know how you felt about 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.599 the movie, but we feel like it's extremely raw and 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:41.080 you're gonna get a piece of not only hip hop history, 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:44.479 but American history, and it's you know, I think we 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.680 hit it. We wanted to make sure too, that we 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.040 had new faces up there, because you you can see 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:55.480 them as NWA you wasn't. You know, actors sometimes carry 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:59.480 baggage and you look at a movie and the baggage 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.480 of that act there, if he didn't messed up this 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.560 week or you know what I mean, had the wrong 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.080 Instagram or whatever. You know what I mean, that baggage 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.040 follow him into the movie and take people out the movie. 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:14.120 So what we wanted to do was have unknowns that 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.840 you you know, we've done this a lot with my movies, 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.400 to have unknown faces and new faces so you really 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.440 see them as the character we're trying to present. Your 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:26.720 son was playing. Yeah, that's a great job, by the way, 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:30.880 Thank you, thank you. Right, Yeah, you know how you 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:32.360 do you know what I'm saying. You be on your 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:36.200 kids to to to stand up to uh, you know, 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:39.080 show their talent. I knew he could do it, you 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:42.480 know what I mean. I just wanted him to be focused. 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:47.800 Uh take it serious, extremely serious. Uh. I wanted him to, 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:52.680 uh to trust Gary, you know, because Gary told me. 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:54.760 You know, I got him, you know what I'm saying, 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.880 And uh, you know I have trust. I had trusting 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.359 my son. I had trust and Gary, I had trust 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.720 in the process. And uh, he did it. He did 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:04.280 a great job. You got to back it up just 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.520 a little bit because I wanted to spell any any 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.920 rumors about people feeling like the son his son was 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:13.640 handed the job. There was no nepotism involved whatsoever. It 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:17.840 took him two years of auditions and acting coaches. He 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.920 trained on the East Coast and the West Coast, all 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.000 types of callbacks, chemistry testing, things like that. So but 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:28.640 he was good though. He was really he worked the 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:30.920 hardest to get the role. The hard I remember when 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:32.280 a people was up here. I asked you, I said, 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:33.760 is your son's gonna play you in the movie? And 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.160 he was like, he has that's right. I'm not just 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:41.080 giving him that because you know, Universal, the Universal brass 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.560 had to okay him. So I never knew if they 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:46.840 was gonna be like, yo, we need a we need 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:52.400 a more seasoned acting here. So and and at the 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.000 callbacks it was two or three cubes, two or three 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.160 dres you know what I mean. We had to make 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:01.240 sure that we wasn't you know, giving him anything. He 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.120 had to earn it and be the best man for 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:09.840 the job, and I think he was. You had to 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:15.520 tell him, maybe tell him before, like you know, like, look, 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:17.280 let me tell you back then, your daddy did this 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:18.760 that I ain't tell you about before, anything that you 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:20.080 had to tell him, pull him to the side of like, 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.040 let me tell you about this. I might have knocked 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.840 off these many chicks like anything heard, I ain't the 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:26.920 one before. He hadn't heard it all. He don't seen 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:28.880 it all, live through it all. You know. He was 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:31.040 born in ninety one, you know what I mean. I 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.160 was still in the in the mix, you know what 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.079 I'm saying, back then, So you know he he knows 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.719 the stories. Uh. I didn't have to show him or 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:42.600 I wouldn't embarrassed to show him nothing, you know, not 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.000 my kids not easy son, easy son, tried out for 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:46.480 it as well. He didn't he didn't make the part 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:48.959 as an actor, he wasn't that well as an act, 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.760 or that he had no seasoning or he had no training. Well, 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.000 you know, it's not that. It's one of those things 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:57.280 where again nepotism does not play a role and making 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.280 a movie. The bottom line is, once the novelty of 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:04.000 your son, you know, wears off. You know, that's playing 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.640 the movie. You have to carry an entire movie and 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.040 a little Easy is good. He's from the streets. He's 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.480 a real dude. It's just we required someone who had 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:17.400 the strength and the ability to carry entire movie and 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:23.079 chops you know, you know, a little different from character. 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:27.800 With Easy, it's a it's an extremely hard art. That's 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.959 because you're going from him selling dope and to all 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.280 the way to him dying at age. You got to 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:38.760 have an actor who's uh got the chops to be 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:42.000 able to bring that and not to flobobd miss it 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.640 or or or not give you or not give Gary 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.439 what he needed to uh to, you know, to bring 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:52.440 up it's a classic leading role man. You have to 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:56.400 have the ability to actually be vulnerable and masculine. You 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.320 have to have the street credibility, which you are actually 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:00.839 look easy, has a ton of that. He's man. But 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.480 when it comes to vulnerability, it takes a very few 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:07.000 young men, black men from the streets could actually give 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.000 you that. We're not used to doing that in real life, 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.600 let alone being vulnerable enough in front of a camera, 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:16.960 especially that that's really the whole theater got quiet and 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:18.520 all you heard with somebody said my own one normal, 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:29.559 Oh wow, we just started. It was tough, bro. That's 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:31.679 it's a good movie. But you don't want to take 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:33.280 a girl on the date if you ain't never knocked 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:38.520 off before. That's not true. It's not true. This movie 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.839 gonna make you laugh, it's gonna make you cheer, it's 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:44.840 gonna make you cry. Everything that you want in a movie. 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:46.720 That's right now. If y'all agree. You said that you 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.960 are encouraged by the progression of law enforcement. But you know, 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.080 when I watched the movie, I feel like things were 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.720 really bad then, but I feel like they've gotten worse. 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.079 What did you, guys? I said, I'm optimistic. I'm cautiously 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:01.560 optimistic because you know, we didn't have cell phones and 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.160 the internet and social media back there. They took a 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.719 pen and pad and a microphone to shine a light on, 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:11.360 you know, excessive force. And now with all the headlines 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:14.240 with CNN, with with you guys, where everybody kind of 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.360 shining in the light and you seeing the videos, I 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.560 think the pressure is on the pressures on a leaders, 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.360 The pressure is on a leader and law leaders in 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:25.320 law enforcement. And you know, maybe I'm too hopeful, but 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:26.920 I kind of feel like, if you got a son 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:31.120 or daughter and you run the risk of being on 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.800 television every night shooting a man in the back, and 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.680 your kids got to watch this, maybe when you lean 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:42.320 towards successivefore, you might make a different choice. So, you know, 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.720 maybe I'm too optimistic, but I kind of feel like 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:49.040 all this pressure, all these headlines, eventually something's gotta give. 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.240 We're gonna push towards change. And I'm kind of tired 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.640 of protesting. I'm tired to burnish stuff down. I think, 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:57.120 you know, we gotta look at federal law. We gotta 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:58.920 look at these body cams, We're gotta look at the 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.439 dash cams. We got to start charging people who tamper 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:05.400 with these videos. And so with the combination of federal 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:09.160 law and the combinations pressure I am optimistic about what 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.480 the future looks like. What I like about the movie is, 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.240 you know, the Police was a very controversial record, but 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.959 it showed what led y'all to make that record. It 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:18.880 whatether like y'all was just trying to create a song 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.480 for shock value. Y'all actually went through experiences that cause 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.720 y'all to make that record. Yeah, you know, with the 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:26.720 whole movie, we wanted to show like why, you know, 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.720 you know what to wear, but you don't know the why. 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.680 So we wanted to show that. You know, we wanted 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:37.480 to give Compton. Uh, it's like the six member n WA. 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.880 You know, Compton is a part of the movie. It 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.280 is the backdrop. You do feel like, this is the 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:48.320 reason why these youngsters from this area decided to go 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:51.400 at it this hard. And you know, to me, the 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:57.040 movie really displays, you know, what forged in WA and 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:02.120 how NWA changed the community. So it's a movie that 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:05.760 really shows two sides of this coin, not just the community. 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.000 The rap game. I mean it was one of the 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.439 starts of gangster rap, you know. Yeah, and what you 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.839 being from New York, was it difficult to do that 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:16.600 movie because I mean it was I'm not really from 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:18.920 New York though really I was born in Manhattan, but 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:23.400 I was only here for two weeks. Um. You know, 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.640 I love New York. But I was raised in South 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:30.880 central LA and went to high school at the end 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.400 in Chicago. So I got a little bit of both, 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.760 but pretty much in South central LA. You know, in 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.800 the movie A Jerry Hella told Easy that you wanted 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:47.080 to be him? Come on for what? Why would I 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.560 want to be here writing rhyme? You know, I'm like, 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.160 so that was never true. You know, I wanted I 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.720 wanted to be treated fair like he was being treated fair. 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.760 You know what I'm saying, so so to speak. You know, 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.319 so I just wanted, uh, you know, I just wanted 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:05.560 to be you know, treat it fair and get what 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:07.800 I was supposed to get in the least have a 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:11.600 chance to look at my contract before I signed it. 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.640 You know, that's that's just criminal. Did you reach out 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.640 to Jerry Heller when doing this movie to get any 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.400 of his accounts? I know he wrote the book Ruthless before, 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.680 But did you actually say, I know, you know, whatever situation, 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.160 But did you say, hey, we just want to get 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:28.120 your side of things? Ever? No, you know, Gary's the 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:32.160 director of the movie. He did his research. Yeah, you 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:35.560 know from talk to Jerry Heller. You know. The thing is, 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.080 it was important for me to do my homework. Of course, 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.720 I you know, read the book thoroughly. I did a 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.600 ton of research. And you know, when you have dre 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:48.400 Yella Que and Wren there to give you first hand 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.640 accounts of their interactions with all of these guys, it 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.960 makes it easier for you to pull it together. Especially 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.440 I'm telling you it's first hand accounts. I'm not googling stuff. 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.280 I'm not looking on Wiki Wikipedia to get deep hells. 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.440 I got the guys who were there. That was good enough. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:05.240 How hard was it for you to walk away from 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:09.320 that seventy five grand man? I don't want to tell 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:13.920 too much of the movie, like the contract, you know, 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.480 And finally they wanted him to sign a contract. But 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.800 in order to sign a contract, he was like, you're 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:20.720 getting to seventy five grand if you sign this contract. 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:26.280 Basically away, I was real close to pushing that man 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.280 down and grabbing that damn check. You know what I'm saying. 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.520 You know, I was thinking all kinds of stuff, so 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.800 I needed that money. But you know where I come from. 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.680 Minute if you know, you ain't getting what you're supposed 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:41.800 to get, and you still there, and you still in 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:45.400 it to win it, and you still pretending like everything cool. 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.040 You know, you just some of your manhood is just 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.640 not we're supposed to be. So, you know, I just 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.240 had to walk away just for my own dignity and 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.000 just because I already knew it wasn't right. You know, 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.920 somebody trying to get you to sign a contract without 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:04.680 letting you get any representation or let anybody see it. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.080 It's just, you know, they're trying to beat you, period, 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.760 and I couldn't stay. And a lot of people are 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:11.960 doing crazy contracts back then though, So that's a good 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.640 common sense because I do feel like so many people 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.080 back then signed contracts just because they wanted to get 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.480 that chatter. Yeah, I mean they got crazy contracts. Now 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:23.520 you ever heard them? Three sixty man? Please? Now you 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.440 mentioned early that you used to write for some of 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:29.120 the members of n WA. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.640 of course we have to talk about Meek Mills said 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.640 recently that Drake doesn't write its own rhymes. Do you 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.720 feel that that makes or break you as a rapper 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.200 or it hurts your street credibility or hurts anything that 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:39.720 you're doing because you wrote for a lot of the members. 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:43.520 If you're making records, it don't matter. Anything that matters 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.200 is what's coming out to speaking. If you up there 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.680 at m seeing and you just like a battle artist 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:53.040 or you just want to be a true master ceremony, 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.280 you should write your own rhymes. You know what I'm saying. 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.440 If you're making records, records have been made by committee 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:02.160 since records have been made, so it don't matter. It 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.080 just matters what's coming out the speaker. That's all that 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.840 matters on the record, not who put it, how it's 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.240 been put together. Who was in the studio, who wrote 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:12.480 this line, who thought of this hook, you know what 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.879 I mean? Who was smoking weed? Who rolled the blunt? 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.680 All that don't matter. You know what matters is is 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:19.719 it dope when I hear it? Because I don't care 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.480 about all that. All I care about is the product 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.760 that you're trying to sell me, and is it dope? 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.320 And that's all that matters. Uh. Now, if you're on 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.600 the mic you want to be, you know, mister battle artists, 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.680 and you want to battle everybody, then you should write 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:36.119 your own rhymes. You should be a true m C 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:40.080 and write you on rhymes, because then then you're more interesting. 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:41.600 You know what I'm saying. You can't go to a 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.040 battle on somebody wrote your rhymes. I mean, That's why 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:46.640 I wonder what the author of Novasoline thinks that these 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.320 modern day battles that are going on between like Drake 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.080 and Meek Mill. I love him. I love him, you 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.960 know what I mean. That's what hip hop is all. Yeah, 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.399 you know, I grew up on l going at it, 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.080 you know, so I always love the battles, you know, 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.200 as long as it stay on wax. You know, once 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:06.080 it go to the street, it's the street and ain't 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.239 hip hop no more, you know, So as long as 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.959 it stay on wax is fun. It's dope. You know. 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.080 People should try to you know, I don't feel like 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:16.760 you things back then, like I feel like I feel 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:20.520 like now if you like they detail it in the movie, 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:22.520 by the way, but I'm saying I feel like now, 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:24.680 anything he said it gets unders scrutiny, like, oh he 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:26.760 said that, that's wrong. You shouldn't have said that. I 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:30.119 feel like back then it was like no say anything, 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:33.159 and now orders shouldn't care what other people got to 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.520 say about what they do, and if they if they 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:38.560 didn't care, and if they just really did what they felt, 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:42.680 then they'll say what they feel and not be worried 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:45.600 about what's gonna what's gonna be the twitter out your 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:50.879 endorsement situations, lose endorsement situations because of their lyrics. N 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.920 I don't seen people lose careers. You're worried about endorsements, 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.440 you know what I mean. I've seen people get their careers, 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:02.320 you know. Uh, basically then two and uh, so you 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:04.560 can't worry about nothing. You gotta go for that juggular. 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:06.879 You said it was issues after Novastling because in the 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:08.919 movie they show everybody getting mad and acting like they 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.720 wanted to do something, but they didn't show nothing actually happened. 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.439 Didn't mention that easy? Had you jumped to something like 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:20.639 that it was a couple of fist fights. Yeah. Was 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:22.560 it in your head from the beginning for Doctor Jay 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.640 to do the soundtrack for the movie or soundtrack inspired 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:27.800 by the movie? Did you say, all right, at some point, 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:29.760 I know he's gonna want to do a soundtrack or 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:31.760 was it a surprise when he said I was so 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.680 inspired I decided to do this for me, it was 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.080 it was kind of a surprise. You know. We went 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:39.600 on a boat trip for like two weeks and I 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.880 told him what type of movie I wanted to make. 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:44.560 I show, you know, I kind of illustrated the vision, 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:47.359 and he said, you know what, I'll join. I'll join 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:49.359 the crew and you know, help you guys develop it 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:51.679 and put my two cents in. And then during the 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.639 process of development, he just jumped in the studio and 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:56.720 the songs just started coming. And he made a ton 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:58.680 of songs. And I don't know if I can say 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:03.320 it on there, but it's crazy. It's crazy. They might 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:05.280 be a part two soundtrack. I don't know if it's 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:08.600 a part two, but I know that I'm happy he 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.399 was inspired by the movie and what he's got coming. 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:14.400 It is crazy, it's dope. It also shows you coming 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.760 to New York to record with the bomb Squad. If 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.760 you know the story, you know the bombs, getting me 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:20.520 jackets and stuff like that. Was it the time where 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.360 you ever felt safer in New York than early? No 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:29.480