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Speaker 1: Two's Cruise, Boys and girls. This is your captain, Tye

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Speaker 1: Hildebrant joining. He is Vice Admiral Dan Rubinstein, Sir Howard

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Speaker 1: A promotion. I think it's probably a promotion. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: A HOI one, a hoy all may tease. My name

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Speaker 1: you for setting sail with us here. It is the

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Speaker 1: first of October. As you're listening to the show, which

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Speaker 1: Unlike our preview shows, the Two's Cruise is when we

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Speaker 2: Oh, we're out here in international waters where things get

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Speaker 2: a little frisky. This is I mean, everybody knows this,

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Speaker 2: college football. Dan. Yeah, Now I'm very excited. We've got

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Speaker 1: Maybe if you're going to commit to this bit, Dan,

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Speaker 1: a long time and loyal verballer Dan. Now, as I said,

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Speaker 1: it is October. First, we had a great suggestion come

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Speaker 1: to this maritime bit. Yeah, but this one in particular

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Speaker 1: We have woken up at the end of September, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I love that movie. Have you seen that movie?

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Speaker 1: This is Sean Connery and Alec Baldwin.

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Speaker 2: Sean Connery, Alec Baldwin, Scott Glenn. I watched the trailer

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Speaker 1: We're playing this new booty because we have some breaking

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Speaker 1: In due time. This will only come to fruition in

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Speaker 1: We are looking at some transfers and gauging how their

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks that have been interesting, even made it to the NFL,

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Speaker 2: have developed in that system, but in terms of just

433
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: changing the game, they might not have had a guy

434
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Speaker 2: like Hunter Johnson exactly. Yeah, I now disagree, And it's

435
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 2: not a knock on Hunter Johnson. I think he's put

436
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: in the time, put in the effort. I just think

437
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 2: he's not as talented as everybody hoped. His recruiting ranking

438
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 2: had people believe, and that's okay. I think he stills

439
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: the opportunity potentially to develop into something, and I hope

440
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 2: for entertainment's sake he does. But I mean, even watching

441
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 2: the Wisconsin game and it was what dan Orlovsky was

442
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 2: the analyst in that game, yep, and he was like

443
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 2: doing his hardest, he was doing the most he could

444
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: to look at what was happening in that game. He

445
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, Northwestern's lining up in trips here and

446
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 2: Hunter Johnson is looking at the dB formation and how

447
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 2: they're showing their coverage to make a decision on what

448
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: to do here in terms of this crossing. And I

449
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 2: was watching, I was like, I don't I don't think

450
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: Hunter Johnson doing that. I don't have a lot of

451
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: faith that what dan Orlowsky thinks Hunter Johnson is doing

452
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: pre snap is actually happening. And that kind of to

453
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Speaker 2: me sums up the Hunter Johnson experience thus far. Where

454
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 2: he's we talked about our next guy in somewhere between

455
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: Backupville and starter Town.

456
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Speaker 1: I think Hunter Johnson is the mayor of Backupville. Okay,

457
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Speaker 1: So right now, if we're ranking the three Easton won

458
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Speaker 1: Stevens two, Johnson three.

459
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and at a big place the mayor of Backupville,

460
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Speaker 2: Like if he was a Clemson All right, let's go

461
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: to Kelly Bryant next. Okay, Kelly Bryant transferred over another

462
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Speaker 2: guy from Clemson to Missouri.

463
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Pretty good so far. Maybe not as as

464
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Speaker 1: talented in a raw talent way of looking at it

465
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Speaker 1: as Jacob Eeson, but yeah, I think more of a

466
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Speaker 1: known quantity, definitely more of a threat with his legs

467
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Speaker 1: based on the names we've got here. Now, his only

468
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: competition is Jacob Eason, and it's a question of do

469
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: we put him in front of Easton or just a

470
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Speaker 1: little bit behind him.

471
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Speaker 2: I probably would have a little They're pretty similar in

472
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Speaker 2: terms of what they've accomplished, what their weaknesses are, what,

473
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Speaker 2: Like Kelly Bryant is fine. I don't think he goes

474
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: downfield all that often like he's They don't really take

475
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 2: a ton of chances in that offense, and they don't

476
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 2: really need to at times. The defense has been pretty good.

477
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: They run the ball pretty well since week one. Anyway,

478
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Kelly Bryant to me is just sort

479
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 2: of ozarchy and book and he's he's going to be fine,

480
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 2: But I just it's a pretty low ceiling to me still.

481
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Speaker 1: I think I put Bryant just a tick below Jacob Eason,

482
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Speaker 1: and it's because Ethan I think has more raw talent

483
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: and will have room to grow in that system. Whereas

484
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Speaker 1: this is one and done for.

485
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,479
Speaker 2: Bryant right now, Kelly Bryant's numbers kind of mirror like

486
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: Anthony Brown at Boston College.

487
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Speaker 1: Right, We're just like, okay, Yeah, he's definitely more of

488
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: a known quantity.

489
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: It all fits in. It's Ryan Willis. He still seems

490
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: like a mid tier acc quarterback.

491
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Speaker 1: So we agree we'll put Kelly Bryant there after Jacobson. Yeah,

492
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: and the last name on this list is Austin Kendall.

493
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Speaker 1: Austin Kendall transfers over from Oklahoma to West Virginia. He

494
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Speaker 1: has been solidly average thus far, not airing it out

495
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: a whole lot, only about six yards per attempt. That

496
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: might be too kind. I know, the month of October

497
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: b October, excuse me, thank you, thank you should give

498
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: us a better sense for how he does against better competition.

499
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Speaker 1: But I think solidly average is about as kind as

500
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Speaker 1: I can be. He's definitely below Kelly Bryant. He is

501
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: squarely in the middle here. If I'm ranking, I go

502
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Speaker 1: Easton one, Bryant to Austin Kendall three, followed by Tommy

503
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: Stevens and Hunter Johnson. Okay, I may have Austin Kendall

504
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: lower than Hunt, I just lower than Hunter Johnson.

505
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, come on, I understand new coach with West Virginia.

506
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: Come on, I don't have the numbers in front. We

507
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: need a man overboard sound for when you start.

508
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 2: Getting Hunter Johnson is having a lower season than Austin Kendall.

509
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: But still there is nobody on this list that if

510
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: I were rooting for this team, I'd be pumped week

511
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: in and week out to see what's this guy gonna do.

512
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: Now that's rough. That's this is a rough list you've

513
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,479
Speaker 2: put together. That's a tough ranking.

514
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Speaker 1: I got Easton one, Bryant two. I'm going Kendall three,

515
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: Kendall over Stevens, Stevens four. Stevens hasn't played. I know

516
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: Steven's four and Johnson five. Yeah.

517
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: Maybe Stevens is doing the you know, he'll try to

518
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: get a GA thing out of it because of his

519
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 2: connection with Morehead, something like.

520
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: That, going pro and something other than sports. Okay, yeah, Daniel,

521
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: what is our final game today?

522
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: Final game today? Is mean or baalen? Is that a

523
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 2: whale that I hear at some.

524
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: Sort of way.

525
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: I think it might be a blue whale. It's a

526
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: large whale. It's the song of a large whale. And

527
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: mean or baylen is quite simple. We have in front

528
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: of us five undefeated teams, and we're going to determine

529
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Speaker 2: if there is bite to this specific team, say like

530
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: a killer whale or a sperm whale, a sharp tooth

531
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Speaker 2: teeth twales.

532
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Speaker 1: You said sperm.

533
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean, we're a couple of seamen here. Ty's on

534
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: the big the big waves or mean or baaling. Bailen,

535
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: of course is the filtration system of bailing whale so well,

536
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: it doesn't chew, rather they filter smaller krill.

537
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: Did you know that before or did you have to

538
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: look that up?

539
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: Like if I were at bar trivia and they said

540
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: what type of whale? What is the filtration system called?

541
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Speaker 1: I would know? I would definitely know. Wow.

542
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I did a pretty impressive ORCA book report in

543
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 2: the fifth grade. Okay, so I'm pretty whale proficient at

544
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: this point and I'm doing this show.

545
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Speaker 1: Ty. I mean, we watched we watched whale Wars very

546
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: early on in the history of the show. We did.

547
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: We did comment on whale Wars. So it's whether this

548
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: undefeated team has the bite that an undefeated record would imply,

549
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: or if they're just filtering smaller opponents through the system

550
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: and not really having the teeth to be an excellent

551
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: team for the entire season.

552
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: Okay, where do you want to go first?

553
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: Let's start with my favorite alternate uniform team of the

554
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: season thus far, the SMU Fight Mustangs. Okay, five and oh,

555
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: including wins over non insignificant teams. Right TCU, they have

556
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: the skillet, m USF is pretty that's Crelly.

557
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: That is definitely Crelly.

558
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: But that's a big win for win that skillet and

559
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: to be five and oh for SMU in the American

560
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: in a changing year in the American with Houston with

561
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Speaker 2: a new coach, with Temple with a new coach, though,

562
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: I think pretty good thus far, UCF losing to pit

563
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: not looking like the quite the juggernaut that they had

564
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Speaker 2: these past couple of years. So SMU on the come

565
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: up as the conference changes meaner bailen for you with SMU.

566
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Speaker 1: I am a little higher on SMU than I expected

567
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: to be. Okay, you when you listed them here, I

568
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: went in, I dove in. I looked at some of

569
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Speaker 1: the some of the more advanced metrics that quite honestly

570
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: gave me a bum steer when trying to pick games

571
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: this past week against the point spread. But I saw

572
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: a couple projection systems that right now have SMU ahead

573
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: of teams like Florida State, ahead of teams like Boise State,

574
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: ahead of teams like North Carolina Cal some decent teams

575
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: on there. Especially an SMU team that you know to

576
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: use to your point, is kind of flying under the

577
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: radar right now. Five and oh, they beat TCU on

578
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: the road, which is a nice win. They beat USF

579
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: on the road. Now we've got questions about USF right strong,

580
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: and it's you know, they might not be all that good.

581
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: But still on the road. There are teams here before

582
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: them that will certainly pose a challenge and I think

583
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: prove out whether or not they're legit. They're on the

584
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: road at Houston, on the road at Memphis, those are

585
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: gonna be tough games. Get up Temple at home on

586
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: back to back to back weeks, So that will define

587
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: for us what we've got here with SMU. But at

588
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: least as it stands right now. I'm pretty high on them.

589
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: Hel on the road, by the way against Arkansas State

590
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: North Texas at home, but not insignificant opponents Arkansas. It's

591
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: been an involved a number of shootouts. They can move

592
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: the ball SMU. The big thing that I looked at

593
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 2: in figuring things out and I watch back some clips

594
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: is defensively, they're first of all, a ton of upperclassmen

595
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: on this defense. They're creating a ton of havoc. They're

596
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: they're attacking teams in the backfield really really well, and

597
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: they're scoring against FBS. Team is scoring forty five a game.

598
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: I am in. I think this team has teeth. I

599
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: am in on the Stangs. Ty, I'm ready double digit

600
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: win Stangs, sign me up. Sure, Yeah, I think that's fair.

601
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. Should be noted. Cal is now

602
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: the Lincoln Riley of taking coaches and turning them into

603
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: what looks like really good G five coaches. With what

604
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: Jeff Tedford has done at Fresno and Sunny Dykes has

605
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: done at SMU, it's it's like a G five coaching

606
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: finishing school.

607
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's all so, yes, I think we agree. Agree.

608
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: Why is Clemson on this list because within the context

609
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: of Clemson. So this is not to say is Clemson

610
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: excellent or not, But after this past week against North Carolina,

611
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: showing some of the struggles that they did, are you

612
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: concerned that Clemson is merely really, really good. Trevor Lawrence

613
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: has not had I think the excellent start people imagined

614
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: he would. Defensively, they've been really strong. They've made some

615
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: Leu'd say offensive play calling blunders. I would say situationally

616
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: at times, they haven't been able to step on throats

617
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: like you would expect a team with the expectations of

618
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: Clemson should be able to do.

619
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Speaker 1: So.

620
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: Do you think Clemson has National Championship favorite teeth right now? Well,

621
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Speaker 2: it doesn't look that way.

622
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: However, However, I don't want to forget too soon what

623
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: we saw last year because I feel like through five

624
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: weeks of the season last year, we were in a

625
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: very similar spot where they had beaten A and M

626
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: on the road only by two points. They had beaten

627
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: Syracuse at home by four points. It was like twenty

628
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: seven to twenty three something like that, and then the

629
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: second were were pretty respectable. By the end of the

630
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: year though, sure, and then second half of the year Dan,

631
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: they destroyed everyone in their path. Now, yeah, there were

632
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: some sea changes afoot for the Clemson Tigers. Remember Trevor

633
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: Lawrence took over not too soon after the season began.

634
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: It took him a little bit to kind of find

635
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: his sea legs. What sea legs? Yeah, okay, no, keep

636
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 1: it going. Approved took them a little bit to get going.

637
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: So I do understand. To believe me, I feel it.

638
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: I'm watching these games. I could not believe what almost

639
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: happened against North Carolina. But if last season was any

640
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: kind of guide for what could be in front of

641
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: us here, and I think we got to wait a

642
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: couple weeks. So I still think this is very much

643
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: a team with teeth relative to expectations. I'm not saying

644
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: will they win the rest of their ACC game? No,

645
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: I understand. I understand what you're saying. Relative to expectations,

646
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: I still think they have teeth, and I still think

647
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 1: they're very much national championship worthy.

648
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 2: The thing I worry about with Clemson right now is

649
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 2: they had so many of those When things get tough,

650
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: this player performs like there was so much dependability, whether

651
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 2: it was Hunter Renfro or Mitch Hyatt, or that entire

652
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: defensive line, the guys they lost in the secondary. There

653
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: was so much of like this guy has been here before.

654
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: They're now, what is it twenty nineteen, So they've been

655
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: in these games since twenty fifteen. This will be the

656
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: fifth year of deep playoff. I think twenty fourteen that

657
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: was Florida State winning the ACC Right, Florida State goes

658
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: to the playoff, very first playoffs. So since then it's

659
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: been all Clemson playing long seasons, recruiting really well, you know,

660
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 2: the quarterback changes have been pretty seamless. Yet a certain point,

661
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: if unless Dabbo is Nick Saban, there's going to be

662
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: a hiccup year, a gasp ten and two type year. Right,

663
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: all I ask is with all that dependability that they've

664
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: had these past three years, with those guys now gone,

665
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: is there something that gets a little bit worse.

666
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: Than the North Carolina weekend? I don't think so. Okay,

667
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

668
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: No, Okay, are they still Are they above Alabama to you?

669
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: No? Are they buve Ohio State to you right now?

670
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: Right now, right now, no, right now, not above any

671
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: of them.

672
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's behind three teams, which means that they

673
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,959
Speaker 2: don't have national championship teeth as it stands right now.

674
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: Okay, well that if you back me into that corner,

675
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: then sure, but they're definitely still good enough. They definitely

676
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: and socks next to Okay, moving on, you've got Baylor next.

677
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: I do have Baylor, the Bears. So the Bears are

678
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: four to oh they just all.

679
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 2: Of their list, all of their Power five road games

680
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: thus far. Okay, here we go, here we go. Oh,

681
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: crack that neck.

682
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: Okay, there was bete Iowa State in McLean Stadium this

683
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: past week twenty three, twenty one. I win, I win

684
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: for their John Mayor big kicks. Now they've got a

685
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: road tilt against k State before Texas Tech comes to

686
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: town and before they head on over to Stillwater to

687
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: square off against Oklahoma State. They still also have road

688
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: spot against TCU, which isn't quite what I thought it

689
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: would be preseason, but still on the schedule.

690
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: Well that should still be a problem for that Baylor offense.

691
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: Also a home tilt against Oklahoma and then a week later,

692
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: on my birthday, a home tilt against the Texas Longhorns.

693
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: So a lot of AMMO still on this schedule. I

694
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: think Baylor has teeth. I like Baylor a lot, but

695
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: I also don't know, to your point, whether or not

696
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: we've seen a true test of how good this team

697
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: actually is. Like the Iowa State win was a nice win,

698
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: but Iowa State's in a weird spot too. K State

699
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: this week doesn't pose the kind of threat that's going

700
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: to prove out whether or not Baylor is a good

701
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: offensive team or not. Like I just I don't think

702
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: we're going to see it here. We're going to find

703
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: out against Oklahoma State on the road or against Oklahoma

704
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: or Texas at home, Like, we may not have an

705
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: answer here until a little bit later on in the season.

706
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: Right now, though, right now, I'm pretty happy with what

707
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm seeing. I like the fight, I like the players

708
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: on that squad, and I'm inclined to put them third

709
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: or fourth in the Big Twelve.

710
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 2: These are the teams they need to beat to go

711
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 2: eight and four, which I would qualify Baylor as having

712
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: teeth after going six and six last year. Fair fair, fair, Okay,

713
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: they would need to beat Texas Tech without Alan Bowman,

714
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: most likely on October twelfth. Kansas State YEP, who looked

715
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: not great this past weekend, but it's in Manhattan, Kansas

716
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 2: on the road right, and West Virginia.

717
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: At home feel doable, very doable.

718
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: The big thing to me is, even though they haven't

719
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: played anybody, even though I joke about not playing a

720
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: power five team on the road yet, which they will

721
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 2: this coming weekend, right, the defense has looked like what

722
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: an improved defense, which is one of our big questions

723
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: about this team should look like against some lesser teams.

724
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: Rice is the best Own five team in the country.

725
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 2: Prove me wrong, debate me to hold Iowa State down

726
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: for three quarters like they did. I know, they almost

727
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: gave it away in the fourth quarter. I'm still giving

728
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 2: them partial credit for that. UTSA again is awful, awful, awful,

729
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: and Stephen F. Austin whatever, But I am giving them

730
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: credit for not having to win any of those games

731
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: thirty seven to twenty eight, yeah, or fifty two to

732
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: forty one. The fact is I don't love a lot

733
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: of these big twelve offenses that they're going to face,

734
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: So even being okay defensively seems like a big improvement.

735
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say, yeah, there's some teeth coming in.

736
00:39:53,480 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: I agree, we agree, okay, Iowa Yeah, undefeated, big one

737
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: over Iowa State close tight pulled it out. Not much

738
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 2: of a schedule beyond that, and they have a big

739
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: one this weekend, which will preview on our preview show.

740
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: But from what you've seen, does Iowa have is there

741
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: something to this undefeated start where you're saying, yeah, there's

742
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: you know, the Nate Stanley, this defensive line. You know,

743
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: even with all the injuries that they've had early on,

744
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: there's something really impressive about this Iowa team that's different

745
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: this year.

746
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: Well, they've run the ball a little bit better and

747
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: Nate Stanley has been very efficient, still has yet to

748
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: throw an interception. He's a veteran hand at quarterback. Iowa

749
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: usually plays good enough defense. Their offense isn't always the

750
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: most exciting product, but they're just very steady. And I

751
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: was trying to think of Iowa in context, like who

752
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: wins if Iowa plays Texas on a neutral field? Right now? Okay,

753
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 1: and the Greg Davis spectacus, who would you pick neutral

754
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: field Iowa against Texas? I think I would pick Texas. Well,

755
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: they both have they both have some key injuries. I

756
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: think Texas more much more weighted on defense on a

757
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: neutral field. I generally.

758
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 2: I think I'll go to the combination of talent level

759
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: and quarterbacks. So I'm going to go Texas.

760
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: But it's very close. It is. It is exceedingly close. Yeah,

761
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: and it just it feels like it's a different conversation

762
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: when you're comparing Texas to a team versus comparing Iowa

763
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: to a team, because Texas is flash year in Iowa isn't.

764
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: But they're pretty close, and it'd be would wins baby, Yeah,

765
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: Iowa just wins. I'm feeling pretty good about Iowa this year,

766
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: and I'm feeling pretty good about their chances against Michigan

767
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 1: this coming week.

768
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: What is a record for a teeth the Iowa toothsome

769
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: Iowa a toothsome Iowa? Yeah, what is there? So last

770
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: year they go what during the regular season they go

771
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: eight and four?

772
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: Yep.

773
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 2: So I would say in Iowa with additional teeth rose

774
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: teeth like a great white tie, don't they have rows

775
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: of teeth?

776
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: Yep?

777
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: Ten wins ten in two Iowa means that they are

778
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: going to beat one of these teams. They will either

779
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: beat Michigan, Penn State, or Wisconsin most likely to finish ten.

780
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: I think they absolutely can beat one of those teams.

781
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: Okay, they have Michigan and Wisconsin on the road, Penn

782
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: State at home. Penn State traditionally has.

783
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: Had a lot of trouble, a lot of a lot

784
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: of trouble. But if I'm betting right now that Iowall

785
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: wins one of those games, I feel pretty good.

786
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: Okay, so one in two Iowa against that triumvirate.

787
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: Now, it doesn't mean that someone else will jump up

788
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: and get them. You know, if Nebraska can get itself together.

789
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: Nebraska could have lost that Ohio State game seventy eight

790
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: to three.

791
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 1: Maybe Nebraska gets it together, Maybe Minnesota remains.

792
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: Plucky home Minnesota fans hate that condescension. So I've learned

793
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: recently calling Tanner Morgan a try hard I think it's right.

794
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna say yes to teeth. I hope

795
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: that they get healthier. I don't have this civic of

796
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: all of their injuries. I know that they're beat up,

797
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: but with that quarterback, with the way that they should

798
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: be able to get after opposing quarterbacks, I'm going to

799
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: say yes, we saw a pretty low Wisconsin offense this

800
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: past weekend. I think the Northwestern game is going to

801
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: be Fuck, it's here, It's in Chicago.

802
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: It's in Evanston. But yeah, I have a tooth some

803
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: Iowa for sure, a lot of a lot of teethiness toothsoness.

804
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: Thank you. Going on, I'm making up words here. The

805
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: final one is, I don't even know why you put

806
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: this on the list. You already know the answer to this.

807
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 1: Wake Forest. Hello, this is a wake Forest show Dan.

808
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: It is am I saying, By the way, do I

809
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: have yes to mean for all of these so far?

810
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: I think so? I think we both do. Okay.

811
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 2: The closest to right now to me are Baylor in Iowa.

812
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 2: Those that's that's the the gummy tooth combo that's right there.

813
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: Wake Forest obviously is a yes. So let's play the

814
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: same you're too optimistic, Let's play the same game that

815
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: we just played with Iowa. Yeah, with wake Forest. So

816
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: if I gave you wake Forest or.

817
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: Bum bum bum bum boom, let's say Nebraska, who are

818
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: you picking? Neutral? Neutral? Uh? Probably Wake Interesting.

819
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 2: I have not seen wake Forest completely shelled by somebody yet,

820
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: which is a product of schedule more than anything. But

821
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 2: I have the data on Nebraska.

822
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: Because Nebraska's favored in that game by about a touchdown according.

823
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: To what I'm looking at I get you, I'm with it.

824
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: I think there's some meanness. I think there's I'm going

825
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: to say, actually, I'm going to be surprising and say

826
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 2: no on Wake I just think it's too thin a

827
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: margin right now for Wake Forest to have significant teeth.

828
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: I think they're they will always have a ceiling, even

829
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: in a down ACC as scrappy pretty.

830
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: Good well, and that's the thing, right The thing is,

831
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: it's probably a talk to your kids about wake situation

832
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: where Jamie Newman's great, He's great. They could finish ten

833
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 1: and two, go to a bowl game and get destroyed.

834
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: Here's the remaining schedule Louisville, Florida State, NC State at Virginia,

835
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: Tech at Clemson, Duke at Syracuse. Wake could win a

836
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: bunch of those football games. Yeah, his stands the reason

837
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: they could win a bunch of those football games. But

838
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: I think just because the ACC is so much in

839
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: flux and definitely not at its full capacity this year,

840
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: that the final record for Wake Forest, which could be

841
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: a revelation for Wake Forest football. I'm not saying this

842
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't be significant for them, but relative to other teams

843
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: in college football, it could be a bit of a mirage.

844
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: My final verdicts SMU mean Clemson, Baileen, how about that?

845
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: Baylor mean Iowa Bayleen Wake Baileen. I'm saying two, yes,

846
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 2: three now also thank you. Also, I did some research time.

847
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to let this research go wasted for

848
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 2: our deflection reflection. Yeah, I'm just gonna need final rulings

849
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: because we ordered them. Yeah, but I did further actual

850
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: terminology research. So if a submarine is pointed upwards, if

851
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 2: it's going at an upward angle, like vertically considered up well,

852
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: like it's it's going towards the surface, it's an up bubble.

853
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: There's like a bubble in the inclinometer.

854
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: Oh we could use that.

855
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's a bubble that up bubble, up bubble

856
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: or down bubble. So is Washington an up bubble program?

857
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: Are they going towards? Are they going upward in the

858
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: right way? Because of the Jacob Easton transfer, I say yes, yeah,

859
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: I think so. Tommy Stevens, I'm gonna say down bubble,

860
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 2: down bubbles contributions because not his fault down bubble. Kelly Briant,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say up bubble. I think so you've seen

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Speaker 2: when quarterback is bad in Columbia. It gets real bad,

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Speaker 2: Hunter Johnson, gonna down bubble.

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Speaker 1: Or you can say nutche. I think I think it's

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Speaker 1: nouche right now.

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Speaker 2: I just made up that target the nut bubble, nuche

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Speaker 2: bubble for for Hunter Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Wait and see, wait and see.

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Speaker 2: I haven't going down bubble, Hunter Johnson. Austin Kendall to

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Speaker 2: me is nuche. I'm gonna say up, bubble, up bubble

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Speaker 2: for Austin Kendall. Yeah, I thought I was being kind with.

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Speaker 1: Nuch like a bit of an up bubble more nutche

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Speaker 1: but then up but a bit of an up.

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Speaker 2: We should watch more West Virginia or not. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: the bubble. I was very proud of that, that little

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Speaker 2: little nug like.

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Speaker 1: That's all. Well, thank you one in all, OHI thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining us here on this two's cruise. Covered

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Speaker 1: some ground here again. Don't forget to subscribe to the show.

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Speaker 1: the conversation long after we get back to shore, We'll

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Speaker 1: be back on Thursday, going to talk through all of

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Speaker 1: the week six action, A bunch of fun games, to discuss.

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Speaker 2: That's all I got for now, Dan, and said, I'm

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Speaker 2: fresh out now that I got my bubble slipped in.

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Speaker 2: We've got Mean, we've got Baileen, we've got the hunt

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Speaker 2: for Red Brocktober. We had Paul Wall involved somehow. Yep,

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Speaker 2: I feel like we gave you your money's worth tonight for.

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Speaker 1: That go there all the way in the wing the

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Speaker 1: city money and Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Captain Tye Hildebrant,

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Speaker 1: thank you for tuning into the show. We'll catch you

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Speaker 1: on a few days. In the meantime, Still so peace,